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I am asking through this amendment to allow those organizations to be able to make those comments to the employees who would be participating in a lockout or strike picket line and that this would then provide some measure of assurance that the government would not move against those labour organizations in a punitive fashion for those who have made every reasonable effort to try and stop strike-related misconduct . Mr. Reid : I believe , Mr. Chairperson , this will allow for some fairness to prevail under the application process so that there would not be undue influence exerted by either party with respect to the certification process and to allow the employees themselves to hear both sides in the certification application , and that is why we have raised this amendment . Relations Act of Manitoba for unfair labour practice , that we would propose that these matters where there is and if there is a failure to file a detailed financial statement as is requested , that those particular parties would commit to an unfair labour practice and that they would be subject to the full sanctions as allowed under the law . Needless to say , the actual positions of most Catholics do not correspond precisely to either of these two types . I wonder if he might just , for clarification , since these are both very substantive issues , repeat those sections . Mr. Chairperson : Mr. Minister , might I suggest that you not indicate that you move every one of them as you read them . That is what the clerk was attempting to indicate , and we were both speaking to that issue . He tries to persuade them to accept a certain moral alternative by rational means , appealing to both universal and Christian truths , using criteria of coherence and sufficient evidence to make his points . If the names and addresses of the employees are not available , are not provided by the employer , as I have indicated earlier , where some members of that particular bargaining unit may be employed in their own homes , for example , or outside of the particular isolated work area where they can be easily identified , then it seems reasonable to request this amendment that would allow for that list of names to be provided to the union by the employer to allow for the most accurate communication possible to determine the wishes and the will of those employees . I believe it was also raised by members of the public who came before this committee , and they suggested that , if there are going to be punitive financial measures put in place through this legislation , there needs to be some fairness established to allow for the most accurate survey of those members possible that would be contained in the bargaining unit . Mr. Sale : First , I would like to thank the minister for making some clarifications on some issues , and we will be addressing each of those issues I am sure in detail as we come to those sections and attempting to understand clearly the legal ramifications and the degree of the legal protection which is being offered by these various amendments . By these amendments , I want to install a process here that will allow for an appeal mechanism to the Labour Board . The compensation committee established : What the legislation says is , the minister shall , once every two years , commencing in 1990 , cause a compensation committee , to be known as the Judicial Compensation Committee , to be established to review , determine and report to the minister on the salaries and benefits payable to judges , including pensions , vacations , sick leave , travel , expenses and allowances . It does not deal with control of assets other than control of securities , and in the context of Bill 67 , the relevance would be that the securities referred to would be shares either of MTS or of an affiliate . If he is going to call for a recorded vote on every one of them , then can we just have it taken as a recorded vote so we do not have to go through the charade of putting up our hands and all that sort of thing ? They could shift them either among themselves or to others , with permission . Should the celebrant face the people during the Eucharistic prayer , or should both priests and people be turned eastward toward the coming Lord ? You are taking these punitive financial measures and other measures in this bill to get your pound of flesh . However that may be , these texts have by now won for themselves a certain right of existence .