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If the extreme to which they were pushed do n't fall easily under our usual definition of " conservative " , does that mean that it 's not extreme , or rather that we have to re-interpret somewhat the political continuum in which we are operating ? But why is that significant ? Maybe the problem is that supporters of universal healthcare with prominent soapboxes spend more time snarking and less time discussing the actual concrete proposals out there , like California 's SB840 , which might actually help get something done . The ANC believes that the business community must acknowledge the role of past discrimination and oppression in shaping present patterns of ownership and control of the economy as well as the extreme distortion in the distribution of skills and expertise that now prevail . And means that I bought my car with less thought .