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Mr. Doer : We have 10 ambulances now . Mr. Doer : As a citizen of Winnipeg , can anybody explain to me why middle-management people have binding arbitration and why it is proposed that you have recommended binding arbitration and the people , the ambulance providers and the dispatchers , are not given that as a way of resolving a dispute ? I know he is presenting publicly at this committee , but I know the minister has indicated he has had discussions with the city , he has had letters from the city . Police officers have binding arbitration and such as it is , teachers have an arbitration option . A process to have binding arbitration that has been agreed to and recommended by Mr. Fotti this morning would provide 10 ambulances on a Friday night under the binding arbitration process and something less than 10 under The Essential Services Act. With your expertise in collective bargaining , would that also be your assessment , and what do you think the public impact of that would be ? Then it appears to me that the only way to protect the citizens fully is to have binding arbitration . Mr. Doer : Well , again , I know on the one hand , on the other hand is a good answer here and I know you are not the policy bodies , but I think the public would want to know from the experts that are here before the committee , and this Legislature should know , if we have 10 guaranteed in binding arbitration , which the employees are putting forward , and management is putting forward essential services , which is less than 10 ambulances , how many ambulances are we talking about , in your estimation , would be essential ? Storage and storage network management solutions have become as numerous as the vendors ' equipment they are trying to manage . Furthermore , the notifying parties state that lactation treatments are only used when a cow has subclinical mastitis during its lactation period and if the mastitis is fully cured , no additional treatment is necessary . We have asked in the past when we were told we were a utility , we asked them to submit to the provincial government to be declared an essential service so that we would have binding arbitration .