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The Towers Perrin opinion confirms that if the new MTS pension plan were effective as of September 30 , 1996 , the market value of the new plan 's assets would exceed the obligations of the plan on an ongoing basis . So the first requirement would be to make it plain to all Manitobans why this new circumstance had arisen , what the urgency was , and to plainly share with Manitobans data as objective as can be obtained by government in a form and in locations accessible to Manitobans , particularly those Manitobans who live in parts of our province where telephones are even more vital and where their affordability and accessibility , functionality are even more an issue than they are for us who live in urban settings . This is certainly something that any board would consider in making a determination as to whether or not there is an unfair labour practice , and so I would not support the amendment . I guess , I would have to say at the beginning , every time this committee meets , there is either a storm or a pending storm . Relations Act of Manitoba for unfair labour practice , that we would propose that these matters where there is and if there is a failure to file a detailed financial statement as is requested , that those particular parties would commit to an unfair labour practice and that they would be subject to the full sanctions as allowed under the law . Mr. Chairperson : Mr. Minister , might I suggest that you not indicate that you move every one of them as you read them . The judges also said , we share concerns that the procedure carefully prescribed by legislation involving public hearings could easily be seen as a cynical orchestration of an objective process to determine judicial salaries which the judges said , in fact , is nothing more than an illusion based on a deception . The fidelity of the objective presentation enhances the depth and transformative quality of the response . I support the motion for an additional reason , besides what the minister has stated and what Mr. Benson stated in his dissenting report , and that is at some point in a jurisdiction like Manitoba where you are going to increase the rate of remuneration paid to anybody , even an independent judiciary , to a degree which is perceived to be unfair and out of step with other players and essential players in a democracy , whether it be professors who claim , and rightly so , academic freedom , whether it be teachers who claim they need respect and they need a sense of worth to be able to teach properly , all of these being fundamental parts of democracy , but if you are out of step with what is perceived generally to be fair , you can bring disrepute on the very institution and the very freedom that you stand for. You will find elsewhere in the bill that foreign ownership is restricted forever at 25 percent , an ongoing provision . So if you want to get into a long wrangling about the decision in the Levine case , I am prepared to do that , but I can tell you that you are contravening the decision and the intent of the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada by your interference in the internal affairs of the union , and also in the activities that you are taking here to punish the unions by the removal of the Rand Formula for what should be an unfair labour practice and for which severe financial penalties are available under the current Labour Relations Act for the province of Manitoba . They own the property , but a woman claiming to be the wife of George Roden has built a shack outside the entrance and lives there , trying to collect donations " for the Branch Davidians " from the dozens of tourists who come by every week ( which the Branch Davidians never receive ) . I also said the same thing to Mr. Bernard Christophe , and we had a long discussion , he and his table officers , in respect of every single one of these amendments that I have brought here , not specifically but generally . The compensation committee established : What the legislation says is , the minister shall , once every two years , commencing in 1990 , cause a compensation committee , to be known as the Judicial Compensation Committee , to be established to review , determine and report to the minister on the salaries and benefits payable to judges , including pensions , vacations , sick leave , travel , expenses and allowances . The Minister of Justice ( Mrs. Vodrey ) has refused to tell judges that their intermittent sentences were not being executed .