Right.
so , that 's  that 's great for  for my purpose. And , the thing is I  I , then the evaluation of  of the system is a little bit hard , as I don't have any references.
Well we did the hand  the one by hand.
Yeah , that 's the one  one wh where I do the training on so I can't do the evaluation on So the thing is , can the transcribers perhaps do some , some  some meetings in  in terms of speech - nonspeech in  in the specific channels ?