And so , so now they want to say " we  we will require fifty percent improvement only for well matched condition , and only twenty - five percent for the serial cases. "
Hmm.
And uh  and they almost agreed on that except that it wasn't a hundred percent agreed. And so last time uh during the meeting , I just uh brought up the issue , I said " well you know uh quite frankly I 'm surprised how lightly you are making these decisions because this is a major decision. For two years we are fighting for fifty percent improvement and suddenly you are saying " oh no we  we will do something less " , but maybe we should discuss that. And everybody said " oh we discussed that and you were not a mee there " and I said " well a lot of other people were not there because not everybody participates at these teleconferencing c things. " Then they said " oh no no no because uh everybody is invited. " However , there is only ten or fifteen lines , so people can't even con you know participate. So eh they agreed , and so they said " OK , we will discuss that. " Immediately Nokia uh raised the question and they said " oh yeah we agree this is not good to to uh dissolve the uh uh  the uh  the criterion. "
Mm - hmm.