Um , and then we could then keep our ideas sort of building on that. I know that people who design cars and you know in aviation they quite often just have a simple like fibreglass prototype and it's completely you know um abs abstract from the final product , but they use it as a kind of a context to sort of walk around and puzzle and and point and discuss
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And point at ? Yeah.
and and and in a way everybody's  as we discuss things in the  in theoretically and out of our notebooks , we're just  we're actually just each of us discussing something that's in each of our own minds. It wasn't until we had this here , you know ,
Yeah.