Yeah , among the old people , yeah.
Old people. So , that's it for me.
Alright. Nice , uh well  show us.
Right , I am going to tell you something about the components design. Uh again I have uh put up the specification properties. This uh so um uh the different uh components of the of of the device. And the materials ? Um I have heard several things , so I uh I'll have to change that on the way. But uh the case ? Uh I suggested uh in the previous meeting hard plastic. But uh as you indicated uh it should be strong.