He was  he was , what  what he meant was that this isn't , you know , a sequence of phones , and when you actually look at Switchboard that 's , not what you see , and , you know. And. It ,
And in  in fact the inter - annotator agreement was not that good , right ? On the harder ones ?
yeah I mean it was
It depends how you look at it , and I  I understand what you 're saying about this , kind of transcription exactly ,