Mm - hmm.
which may or may not be all that easy to measure in the acoustic signal. Versus an acoustic event , which is just  some  something in the acoustic signal  that is fairly easy to measure. Um. So it 's , um  it 's a little different , in  at least in my mind.
I mean , when we did the SPAM work  I mean , there we had  we had this notion of an , uh , auditory  @ @  auditory event.
Good. That 's great.