This time it should come up both.
Right then. I don't actually have a huge amount of different information then what Kate says ,
Okay.
just that my method was to look at the , well , my my inspirations , which was a big collection of lots of different models of remote controls and other things that use a similar sort of thing , including M_P_ three players , uh like you know , hi-fi remotes , not just television and these things.