So maybe that would , you know , be some intermediate structure that you would pass into the disc to the , whatever , construal engine or whatever , discourse context , to find  you know , either create this reference ,
Mm - hmm.
in which case it 'd be created here , and  you know , so  so you could imagine that this might not  So , uh , I 'm uncommitted to a couple of these things.
But  to make it m precise at least in my mind , uh , it 's not precise.