Mm - hmm.
That was the kind of dispute I was making before.
Mm - hmm. I remember that.
But , um , the attorneys , I  uh , I can guarantee you , the attorneys will always come back with  and we have to decide how stringent we want to be in these things , but they will always come back with saying  that , um , you need to  you want to have someth some paper trail or  which includes electronic trail   that they have , uh , in fact  O K 'd it.