Um And then we w I think we 're agreed that pitch - related things are  are  are going to be a  a really likely candidate to help.
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Um  But  since   uh your intuition from looking at some of the data , is that when you looked at the regular energy , that it did in fact usually go up ,  when two people were talking ,  that 's  eh you know , you should be able to come up with a measure which will  match your intuition.