Um , people are less consistent about going to ICASSP and I think it 's still  it 's still a reasonable forum for students to  to present things. Uh , it 's  I think for engineering students of any kind , I think it 's  it 's if you haven't been there much , it 's good to go to , uh to get a feel for things , a range of things , not just speech. Uh. But I think for  for sort of dyed - in - the - wool speech people , um I think that ICSLP and Eurospeech are much more targeted.
Mm - hmm.
Uh. And then there 's these other meetings , like HLT and  and uh ASRU
so there 's  there 's actually plenty of meetings that are really relevant to  to uh computational uh speech processing of one sort or another.