Yeah.
Unless we adopt a different set of norms which is to not id to make a point of not identifying people by name , which then leads you to be more contextually ex explicit.
That would be hard.
Well , people are very flexible. You know ? I mean , so when we did this las last week , I felt that you know , now , Andreas may , uh , @ @  uh , he  he  i sometimes people think of something else at the same time and they miss a sentence or something , and  and because he missed something , then he missed the r the initial introduction of who we were talking about , and was  was unable to do the tracking.