Yeah. So there are slight  There are differences in how you measure it , but still it 's   You know , the difference between um  between that number and what we have in meetings , which is more like ,  you know , close to  in meetings like these , uh  you know , close to twenty percent.
Mm - hmm. Mm - hmm.
But what was it like , say , in the Robustness meeting , for instance ?
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