Uh , that 's the first point. The second point is um I think that for some time now , going back through BeRP I think that we have had speakers that we 've worked with who had non - native accents and I th I think that
Oh , oh. I 'm not saying accents. u The accent 's not the problem.
Oh , OK.
No , it 's more a matter of uh , proficiency , e e just simply fluency.