just that my method was to look at the , well , my my inspirations , which was a big collection of lots of different models of remote controls and other things that use a similar sort of thing , including M_P_ three players , uh like you know , hi-fi remotes , not just television and these things.
Mm-hmm. Mm.
Uh having a think about the feature of ea the features of each ones , um what functions we actually need , and then how to group and arrange these on the actual the actual plastic or rubber hand-held piece.  Uh I've been especially interested in the iPod style scroll wheel , which  Well , I couldn't find a  the picture of the iPod w only linked to a web browser , so I couldn't copy and paste it , but it had a similar thing to this thing on the right. It has uh scroll wheels without without a display , but they they scroll like a computer mouse.
Hmm.