So you don't want to be c cross - cutting. And  and , just to finish this , that um That I think that  there may be an upper bound on how many overlaps you can have , simply from the standpoint of audibility and how loud the other people are who are already  in the fray. But I  you know , of certain types. Now if it 's just backchannels ,  people  may be doing that  with less  intention of being heard ,  just sort of spontaneously doing backchannels , in which case  that  those might  there may be no upper bound on those.
I  I have a feeling that backchannels , which are the vast majority of overlaps in Switchboard ,  uh , don't play as big a role here , because it 's very unnatural I think , to backchannel if  in a multi - audience  you know , in a multi - person   audience.
If you can see them , actually. It 's interesting , so if you watch people are going like    Right  right , like this here ,
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