I mean this is the kind of reason why  I remember when at one of the Switchboard , workshops , that uh when we talked about doing the transcription project , Dave Talkin said , " can't be done ".
Right.
He was  he was , what  what he meant was that this isn't , you know , a sequence of phones , and when you actually look at Switchboard that 's , not what you see , and , you know. And. It ,
And in  in fact the inter - annotator agreement was not that good , right ? On the harder ones ?