And what I 'm kind of confused about is  is what the speaker and the hearer is  is sort of doing there.
So for a particular segment it 's really just a reference to some other entity again in the situation , right ? So for a particular segment the speaker might be you or might be me.
Yeah.
Um , hearer is a little bit harder. It could be like multiple people. I guess that  that  that  that 's not very clear from here