Um , I could imagine that as  there 's a fair number of  um cases where , and this is sort of , not  really hostile , but sort of competitive , where  one person is finishing something and  you have , like , two or three people jumping  trying to   trying to   trying to , uh grab the next turn.
Trying to get the floor.
Yeah.
And so it 's not against the person who talks first  because actually we 're all waiting for that person to finish. But they all want to  be next.