There's time for one more short question. Go ahead, Mr. Masse.
Will the minister use his powers if the banks continue to charge Canadian consumers interest rates that are higher than Vancity's?
Mr. Chair, again, we will continue to work with banks to ensure that they're supporting their customers. What banks have done on credit cards by cutting their fees in half is an important nod in that direction.
Next, we have Jacques Gourde.