Yeah , but  but what she 's saying  is , which is right , is  le
combination of two ,  of energy and derivate
I mean , let 's start with the  Before we get complicated , let 's start with the most basic wh thing , which is  we 're arguing that if you take energy  uh if you look at the energy , that , when two people are speaking at the same time , usually   there 'll be more energy than when one is right ?
Yeah.