Yeah !
and  um ,
Anyway.
um , so , uh , what was I gonna say ? Oh , yeah , I was gonna say , uh , I had these , uh , conversations with NIST folks also while I was there and  and , uh , um , so they  they have their  their plan for a room , uh , with , um , mikes in the middle of the table , and , uh , close - mounted mikes ,