Uh having a think about the feature of ea the features of each ones , um what functions we actually need , and then how to group and arrange these on the actual the actual plastic or rubber hand-held piece.  Uh I've been especially interested in the iPod style scroll wheel , which  Well , I couldn't find a  the picture of the iPod w only linked to a web browser , so I couldn't copy and paste it , but it had a similar thing to this thing on the right. It has uh scroll wheels without without a display , but they they scroll like a computer mouse.
Hmm.
Hmm.
So I was thinking that uh  um a really simple a really simple interface with just a couple of scroll things on it um and then instead of a display the display could appear on the television screen. Like I guess an existing Sky or cable one does. Like , you know , you press enter and it comes up with what's showing on that channel at the moment , and you can do  you can scroll along and it'll show you what's on in the next half hour , and you scroll up