Um but what's something we need to decide on is how we're gonna go from here.  We do need to try and come up with an idea which could be continued with other people if need be. Um. We can I can bring the excel up sheet up and uh show you if you wish um. I really think as m much as it pains me is that we might have to go with plastic and some kind of solid design , possibly meaning that the L_C_D_ wouldn't be in this perfect place. It might be s stuck like slightly between what would be good for left handed and what would be good for a right handed person.
Mm-hmm I suppose o one thing that could be done is h  is have it um circular and have it s  so that the uh the pink  actually goes a bit over the pinkie finger. Mm.
Okay.
Mm.