and  you know , what  what are these things referring to ? Not only  anaphora , but , uh , more generally the , uh  this whole issue of , uh , referring expressions , and , what is it that they 're actually dealing with in the world ?
Mm - hmm.
And , again , this is li in the databa this is also pretty well formed because there is an ontology , and the database , and stuff. So it isn't like ,  um , you know , the Evening Star or stuff like that.
Right.