Are the , um , wireless , different than the wired , mikes , at all ? I mean , have you noticed any difference ?
I 'm  I 'm not sure , um , if  if there are any wired mikes in those meetings , or , uh , I have  have to loo have a look at them but , I 'm  I 'm  I think there 's no difference between ,
So it 's just the lapel versus everything else ?
Yeah. Yeah.