McLennan said, "John Brand, the producer, he did change between the second and third, which we did as well, but he went and made a very produced 1984 English pop record, which in a way... well, that's not what we were." Forster more bluntly claimed, "John Brand was terrible. His whole attitude was, 'Now we're making a real record.'"
McLennan remarked, "John Brand, the producer, switched between the second and third, as did we, but he went on to create a highly produced 1984 English pop album, which in some way... well, that's not what we intended." Forster declared more directly, "John Brand was terrible. His approach was, 'Now we're making a real record.'"