When Gutman was looking for a match, he asked Elchonon Wasserman about a number of prospects, and Wasserman recommended Kaplan. When Gutman demurred, saying "Isn't your own son, Naftoli, a little better?"
Gutman was seeking a partner and asked Wasserman for recommendations. Wasserman suggested Kaplan, but Gutman expressed doubt about the suitability of Kaplan compared to his own son, Naftoli.