He joined Saracens where he played the 2004–05 and 2005–06 seasons in the English Premiership, followed by Irish Magners League club Ulster for 2006–07 and 2007–08.
After playing for Saracens in the English Premiership from 2004-05 to 2005-06, he joined Ulster, an Irish Magners League team, for seasons 2006-07 and 2007-08.