At a feast, Lü Guang and his officials were discussing his administration, when Duan Ye told Lü Guang that he was being overly harsh in his application of laws. Lü Guang, citing the examples of the legalists Wu Qi and Shang Yang, defended his harsh applications.
At a gathering, Lü Guang and his administrators discussed his leadership methods, with Duan Ye suggesting that Lü Guang was too severe in enforcing laws. Lü Guang defended his approach by referencing the examples of Wu Qi and Shang Yang, who also used strict laws to govern their respective states.