He also learned scenic, costume and lighting design during this time from 1980 to 1987. After leaving the company, he began his solo work as dancer and choreographer and commenced his journey into shamanic ceremonials and incorporating native myths and legends in his work.
During this period, he acquired skills in scenic, costume, and lighting design from 1980 to 1987. After leaving the organization, he started his own practice as a dancer and choreographer and explored shamanic ceremonies, incorporating native folklore and legends into his craft.