The affair, however, was not closed, for Ashkenazi and Ḥagis had already, on 23 July pronounced the ban of excommunication upon Ḥayyun and his heretical book. In the protracted discussion which ensued between Ayllon and Ashkenazi, a discussion into which the rabbis of Germany, Austria, and Italy were drawn, Ayllon made but a sorry figure, although, as far as Amsterdam was concerned, it might be said to have ended triumphantly for him, seeing that Ashkenazi was compelled to leave the city.
However, the matter was not settled, since Ashkenazi and Ḥagis had already, on 23 July, issued a decree of excommunication against Ḥayyun and his heretical work. The lengthy discussion between Ayllon and Ashkenazi, which involved rabbis from Germany, Austria, and Italy, left Ayllon in a poor light, although it could be seen as a triumph for him in Amsterdam, as Ashkenazi was compelled to depart the city.