He joined Saracens where he played the 2004–05 and 2005–06 seasons in the English Premiership, followed by Irish Magners League club Ulster for 2006–07 and 2007–08.
He joined Saracens, where he played in the English Premiership from 2004-05 to 2005-06, and then moved on to Ulster, an Irish Magners League club, for seasons 2006-07 and 2007-08.