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1: Open-ended question
2: Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
3: Not regarding using or support for Lemmy
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> Even if you don't agree with them, there's value in having them.

I hear this all the time but somehow it's never about instances full of rightoids or conspiracy theorists, it's always about some "can't we all be nice\*" instances (Beehaw in 99% of cases) or some openly tankie instance that somehow gets a pass despite being just as politically extreme on the left as Alex Jones is on the right.

\* "nice" as in "be nice by my particular definition *or else*"

There is value in having different opinions on a platform, but I would argue there's very little value, bordering on active detriment, to having fundamental disagreements about the nature of this space and the role of moderation in it.

If I wanted Beehaw's style of borderline obsessive nitpicking of writing and tone, I would be a ResetEra user.

Beehaw existing in the fediverse is only a boon so long as its team and users understand the basic point of this platform *is* to be able to interact with users from other instances, something they clearly never wanted in the first place.

This is also why Hexbear defederated, in a roundabout way. 

They thought they were going to bully larger liberal groups and recruit from them, they instead got that quickly turned around on them and the users decided their perfect little tankie shitstirrer bubble needed to be protected from the real world where most of humanity does not want anything to do with them.

Communities should set the standard for interactions within them, instances should set the standard of what communities are welcome to exist on them (see: piracy and NSFW topics on various dedicated instances).

Any instance that demands the ability to set the standard of interaction for the rest of the platform is poisonous and should be heavily side-eyed and/or kindly encouraged to take a long hike off a short pier.
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