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I think it's hard to have discussions about this because people don't agree on what is meant by words like "misandry".  Like, I see discussion in this thread about whether "misandry" refers to individual hatred of men by individual women, or a limited subculture of women (I think we'd all agree this exists) vs. systemic oppression (I think many feminists would disagree that this exists.  I don't quite believe this--I do think there is some systemic oppression of men, but I think it very different from the sort of systemic oppression of women historically exposed by and focused on by feminism.  I tend to adhere to more modern forms of feminist thought that see systemic oppression of men as "the other side of the coin" of oppression of women--e.g. men sexually assaulting women is tied to men being perceived as predators or threats, this impacts both women and men negatively, in very different ways, and the two problems feed off each other).

But I'd say that I have definitely encountered people expressing ideas or viewpoints that I consider hateful towards men and/or holding men to double standards in ways that I think are destructive both to men and women.  Examples would be:

* People generalizing about men and target men as a class rather than targeting the unhealthy behaviors or aspects of culture, i.e. they sit around sharing negative experiences with men, and instead of reacting "Ugh, that is a horrible behavior / way of treating someone / aspect of our culture." the reaction is "Ugh, men are horrible."
* People reading negative intentions into men's actions, or exaggerating / twisting men's behaviors into an extremely negative interpretation, i.e. a man says "Good morning." in a completely respectful way, and people label it "street harassment" or seeing a man compliment a woman's picture on social media and reacting: "You're just reinforcing patriarchal norms that define women's value in terms of their physical appearance."

What's my opinion on these people?  I don't like to judge people. But I find these behaviors unhealthy and I find it toxic to be in subcultures that condone, or even tolerate these behaviors.

And I don't agree that these behaviors are "feminism".  I recognize that some people do see these things as part of "feminism", but I disagree with them and I want very much to root these things out of any group or culture or social circle of which I am a part, whether or not the group or subculture is explicitly "feminist" or not.
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