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"Everyone around them is a direct product of US meddling sine time immemorial", I think I can agree to this statement. However just because you shouldn't have gone in, does not mean you should leave.

Look at how the us withdraw from Iraq. It may even have been a good Idea to withdraw, however it was not a good Idea to make a hasty retreat like the US did.

Its same with Israel. If removing our selves actually don't do anything to Israel, than we are just putting more Israeli lives at risk. Removing our supply of munitions would likely force Israel to pivot to primarily using ground forces which we would be an even worse outcome [1].

If withdrawing ourselves from Israel did have an effect on them, it would leave Israel on the Blackfoot and could risk the lives of innocent Israelis.

"And yes, have a little sympathy for the millions...". I agree, it is sad that innocent people are dying. The sad truth is we're in a catch 22 between the Islamic extremists and a country that make questionable moral choices. The problem is that their isn't anything the US could do that would really effect the situation. 

Biden is taking some action, pressuring Netanyahu to actually come up with a plan for Gaza that will end the endless loop of war in the area [2].

He also has started posturing towards Israel that things should be ramped down [3]. Athough it may not be the feel good story everyone wants from our democrat president, it is a pragmatic one. Focused on considering the lives of Palestinians and Israelis alike.

[1] - https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/drones-actually-the-most-humane-form-of-warfare-ever/278746/

[2] - https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/04/biden-gaza-israel-hamas-war-00130000

[3] - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67788359
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