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&gt; Second, yes the manufacturers take a cut in royalties, but they also sell their hardware with a loss (at least, when it comes to MS and Sony), 

This is not true, [at least not when it was released](http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/ps4-costs-381-to-make-according-to-hardware-teardown/)
and the ps4 has overall better hardware than the xbone. This invalidates you second point. 

&gt; Third, yes Sony, MS and Sony take royalties and on the PC Steam, Gog, etc. take their cut from every sale, same with Apple and Google. The complains about royalties being console specific is nonsense.

No it's  not, at least not when bought in a game store in the apple store, google play store, steam and gog take the store royalties sony and ms take extra royalties on top of that. This is the reason why AAA console game at launch cost 10$ or regional equivalent more than the pc version(s).
&gt; And last but not least, consoles give the opportunity to introduce new concepts in hardware, the Wii for example only could work, because it was designed for a dedicated console.

VR is on pc, and might change the way we game in the future. Every platform has the option to introduce new hardware. 


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