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Okay, I wasn’t going to respond to any of this, but all the bullshit sources you’re using proves my point exactly.

I wasn’t implying that tankies draw their name from Tiananman. I genuinely don’t give a fuck where it comes from. I was pointing out that they’re actually on the side of the tanks that literally crushed protestors.

If you’re going to quote wikipedia, it’s funny that you suddenly stop using it when it no longer suits you.

[Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre), [BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42465516), [NSA de-classified national archives](https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB16/), etc…

No one will argue that the death toll is this or that number, because no one knows.

There is no debate that it is a significant number, that hundreds or even thousands were murdered, and that China has desperately attempted to obfuscate every detail of these events.

The protestors called the soldiers fascists as they were killed. We could quibble over that terminology, but there can be no doubt that they were authoritarians willing to kill in order to suppress the natural desire in humans to be free and self-determining.

If you side with those soldiers then fuck you, tankie trash.


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