Mostly a lurker, but had to get this off my chest. In terms of politics/ideals I feel like I largely agree with most people here, and that personally I feel forced into holding my nose and voting blue down ballot largely because of the woman's rights and LGBTQ issues that directly affect people I care about along with environmentalism and other issues.

I understand the sentiments of many people here on Biden. But I'm terrified of taking that mentality because once I throw my hands up and say that both parties are evil and that I want Joe to lose (and Trump winning) what the fuck is there left for me to hope for politically?

Leftists are already and will continue to be extremely unhappy if Joe wins. I'd think we can all agree that if Trump wins we will all be even more unhappy. Is the hope that things will get so bad after another Trump term that the revolution happens or the Dems put up a more progressive candidate (and I don't even trust them to do that)? There is virtually no leftist representation in the US govt; locally I have no representation and leftists don't even like the progressive members in Congress.

I could advocate locally, volunteer, and organize but man I'm just trying to survive, pay rent as it is. What, do I turn in my leftist card if I don't do enough or want to be a revolutionary?

And what can I say to people I know? I'm fairly privileged. Most people I talk to nowadays range from liberal to socdem. My old college group of friends are more leftist but politics has been a real icy topic because (*edit) most of the group are women and a significant number are trans. My SO is also a young woman who lost her reproductive rights and is NOT happy about it. A close member of my family is trans, threw her hands up this past year and fled to Vancouver. I care about all of them and they're good people. What, am I supposed to say they're immoral for supporting a genocider?

The discourse these days is really starting to have negative effects on my mental health and I almost want to give up and not think about politics anymore. It feels like people just want to watch the US burn. Sure, can still organize locally, labor movements etc. but at the state/fed level have we just entirely given up? I don't see any good outcomes at that level for the next 4-5 years, and even after that I wouldn't be surprised if things get worse. I'm just so done.
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&gt; I want Joe to lose (and Trump winning) 

who the fuck is saying this lol

  
here, let the facts liberate you: genocide joe is the most unpopular incumbent in american history with NO path to victory against trump and it doesn't make one goddamn bit of difference what you "want." your metaphysical spiritual magical internal desires happening exclusively within the confines of your pretty skull have no way to materially impact the outcome. are you professor x? no? okay then

the one person who decides if donald trump becomes president or not at this point is mr genocide joe robinette butcher biden.

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Is the hope that things will get so bad after another Trump term that the revolution happens

stop???? saying shit like this???? this is liberal strawman nonsense. read more.
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It's honestly almost funny how people like you sound as deranged as MAGAts.
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go eat the corn out of genocide joe's shit blue maga
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