Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)
user
So I normally don't mind shitting on Democrat candidates, especially when they're established politicians to begin with. That being said, ever since she got endorsed by Biden, every single one of my progressive/lefty subreddits I follow have been flooded with negative Kamala articles and posts that date back 7+ years. I hate to break it to everyone here, but Kamala is as left of a candidate as you're going to see in 2024. An open convention will produce someone to the right of her. Instead of instantly dogpiling, why don't we just wait to see what her policies are? Yes, the liberal response of "enjoy camps" is crazy, but to also say you're not voting for her before we even really know what her big policies are is wild too
assistant
Literally this. I’m so tired of liberal idealism. We need to elect people that will create gradual change. Did we not learn our lesson when we couldn’t even get Bernie on the ballot, let alone elected as president? We have a very real possibility of Project 2025 happening if people keep acting like not voting for Biden (now Harris) is somehow the best choice for Palestine. Do you think Trump will lead us to a ceasefire? (I’ll help you out here, he won’t).
user
&gt;I’m so tired of liberal idealism

You are advocating for voting for liberal politicians. This is literally the definition of liberal idealism
assistant
What are you talking about? I’m advocating for voting for the non-Trump candidate. The collective “we” was just democrats who want a progressive candidate (including Hasan whose subreddit we are on, so I don’t really know where everyone here stands) and pushed for him in the 2020 primary. My point is that not even the DNC wanted him. America is not ready for a super liberal candidate. That is what I was saying.
user
You do not understand what liberal idealism is. Everything you said is liberal idealism. The fact that gradual change can be made my voting for liberal politicians. That is the definition of liberal idealism. I’m confused as to why you’re saying that you’re tired of something that you support.
assistant
I’m only halfway down this thread and I think my brain is bleeding. 

The liberals apparently saw your post as a summons to spawn and air their dumbest opinions all at once. 

Just wanted to pipe in to tell you you’re making great points and explaining your position better than I could lol.
user
It’s a pointless battle for them since I live in a red state anyways but we do what we can lmao
assistant