I want to be very clear that I am sympathetic to Hasan's position of attempting to use a conversation with Asmongold as a way to reach his audience and potentially de-program some of them. Unfortunately, I do not think it worked, and instead it allowed Asmon to evade and water down his message while maintaining his core position. He got to dress up his position in slightly better words, but it remained largely the same.

To remind people, Asmongold stated that **Palestinians and Arabs have an inferior culture that is evil and immoral.** He doubled down on this the entire stream, and refused to budge even an inch on it. Whenever Hasan would press him, or make analogies to the US, Asmon would simply state that he thought "Parts of US culture is bad too." as an out, but he would never make the same sweeping generalizations about US culture, yet felt completely comfortable to do so about Arabs &amp; Muslims.

It was disgusting to listen to. I do not think he is arguing in good faith -- Asmongold has the means, time, and money to research and develop an in-depth opinion on the middle-east. He doesn't. He instead plays to his right-wing audience while back-pedaling whenever it goes too far to maintain his centrist image. 

Arab culture is not evil or immoral. Arab people are kind, community driven people who care about honesty and integrity for the most part. Most Arabs are fine with live and let live, and if asked, would not want the death of LGBTQ+ people. Arab culture is my culture, and is filled with songs and poetry and food and scientific development. Arabs under an Islamic caliphate invented things like Algebra, developed chemistry, and invented a wide range of things we still use today like Kerosene, Hard soaps, wind powered structures of various sorts, sugar mills and more. There is literally a massive wikipedia page dedicated to the developments in science under the Golden Age of Islam. This was at a time when western europeans were dying of common diseases because hand washing was not a thing.

During the middle ages, where Europe was burning witches at the stake and gay people were tortured for sport, the Islamic world had openly gay philosophers. In the tradition of Sufi Islam, poets like Rumi **wrote about the great joys of homosexual love.** The laws against homosexuality on the books were rarely invoked. We know this because Arabs kept extensive court records and we can physically see with our own eyes how rare this was.

This does not mean there weren't problems or reactionaries, or periods of regression, but this is a beautiful vibrant culture with a long history of progressive development that Asmongold completely dismissed.

Asmongold, from his air-conditioned comfortable home sitting in an imperialist country that routinely destroys other peoples homes, hand-waved thousands of years of human development as if it was nothing, and then used some regressive modern regimes (created directly and indirectly by his own government) to play defense for Israel's genocide. 

The conversation with him was extremely painful and sad, and as my friends and family in Lebanon feels the weight of American bombs, I find it all so abhorrent and unfair. 
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So does wikipedia just has wrong info on LGBTQ status in arab countries? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_Middle_East

"Male same-sex activity is illegal and punishable by imprisonment in Iraq, Kuwait, Egypt, Oman, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates. It is also punishable by death in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. In Yemen and the Gaza Strip, the punishment might differ between death and imprisonment depending on the act committed."
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You’re an intentionally obtuse, Zionist, piece of human trash. No one is going to engage with you on this. If you listened to Hasan explain to Asmonmold why illiberal attitudes on LGBTQ people doesn’t justify genocide, murder, bombing, etc for three hours and you still don’t get it, you never will.
user
I admit I only watched the debate for a few minutes. Asmon was just being like "I agree with you but I still think their culture is inferior" so I just stopped. Anyways, I don't think genocide is ever justifiable, even if majority are evil. Because there's always going to be innocents you'll end up hurting.
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