I love my pragmatic bros/gals
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Who is not a Zionist in American politics?

The fact is Americans have been indoctrinated into thinking that a Jewish state should exist and if you don’t think a Jewish controlled state should exist your anti-Semitic.

Most Americans literally think that

I don’t even understand the people who bring up points like this without acknowledging that the right wing, apartheid state Israel desperately wants Donald Trump to win the election.

There are even rumours that they want to flood the tunnels in Gaza with seawater, but the Biden administration told them not to.
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Just out of curiosity: why would a country run by jews shouldnt exist? (I know you didnt said that, but english is Not my first language and i didnt know how to redact the question)
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Jewish people can lead states. Nothing wrong with that. Many people in this sub hoped for a Jewish man to be head of state of America. The issue is ethnostates under any circumstances is wrong because an ethnostate has to be enforced and I don’t see a non-monstrous way to go about that.
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There are ethno States if we're going to be honest. 

Japan is an ethnostate. 

China is an ethnostate controlled by Han Chinese people. 

Korea is an ethnostate 

Turkey is an ethnostate. 



If we're going to be honest the biggest difference when it comes to Israel is that it established itself too late in human history when we already had international laws. 

Eg. Turkic nomads took over Anatolia by force.

It would not have been okay to do what turkic nomads did in the 12th century, in the 20th century.
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Yeah and I would say every example is criticized for being an ethnostate. Yeah others exist but Japan is criticized for its xenophobia. China is criticized for the genocide it involves itself in. Korea I'm ignorant about. Turkey is literally accused of genocide denial all the time. These things are wrong no matter who does it.
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They are criticized for a specific horrific actions. Eg. Armenian genocide

There's actually not that much criticism outside of that. No one seriously is saying turkey should not exist.

Eg. There's actually not that much criticism for Japan for being an ethnostate.

It's like I said previously the big difference is they were established early enough in history that they kind of got grandfathered into acceptability.


It's similar to how people are more accepting of the United States existing as a settler colonial state than Israel. 

The United States, Canada and Australia were established earlier



The Jewish nation state project just took place too late into human history to ever be accepted.
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None of those states are actively dropping US made bombs on their concentration camps.
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