I already knew we were fucked, but after that shitshow I honestly feel sick. How the hell can he be in such denial? Saying that only the Lord Almighty coming down and telling him to drop out would make him. Wouldn't even entertain the hypothetical of the rest of the DNC leadership asking him to step down. 

I do have to commend George Stephanopoulos for not letting Biden pivot away from the questions too much. Thank God there are some competent journalists out there still. The amount of astroturfing i've seen on other subs is nuts. In WhitePeopleTwitter the OP has like 15 comments at the top, and other accounts parroting the exact same bullshit. I'm not religious, but I might start praying.
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The funny thing about American liberals crying about the project 2025 scenario is that I recently learned from a socialist that project 2025 is just a continuation of the Heritage Foundation's "Mandate for Leadership” project that’s been happening for the past 30-40 years. People legitimately think that writing in a ballot and voting is the only way to save their rights and freedom is pathetic and sad when all of it is already happening under Biden with republicans controlling the Supreme Court and the House. Yeah trump is bad but voting in Biden will not stop Project 2025 from happening (or even project 2029 and onwards). People need to organize labor unions, protest, or just fight back in general.

Edit: Also besides the fact that both presidents support a genocide.
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I find it hilarious you didn't already know that. It's almost like these kinds of plans are directly responsible for our descent into fascism? 

All you people who don't see why "ineffectual but uninterested in overthrowing the government" is actually measurable better than "has attempted a coup - now found to be a legal act undertaken as part of the president's duties - and actively working to install himself as a dictator." 

It's a weird phenomenon where you've ended up doing the exact same shit conservatives do: justifying evil to one the libs. 

In the long term, Democrats do nothing. 

In the short term, Democrats buy us more time to act before Republicans fully implement a fascist federal government with a dictator at the top. 

And I understand why, on an emotional level, this argument FEELS repulsive, but: two genocides are worse than one. US presidents have been supporting foreign genocides for a long time. It's fucked up, but basing your electoral decisions on whether or not said candidate will support an overseas genocide kind of locks you out of participating. That said, Biden not STARTING more genocides domestically is measurably better than what Republicans openly want. 

Yes, it's just one step. But discouraging people from doing the single most simple act possible in the name of not letting the fascists outright win is deplorable. It might be a terrible system that is fundamentally anti-democratic, but it is so much more than what a hell of a lot of people in this world are afforded. The people we vote for oversee the system within which we organize. It's something a lot easier to do when the men at the top aren't laying the groundwork for legal dictatorship and openly expressing a desire to kill dissenters. 

You fundamentally misunderstand the argument against your implicitly "Trump is OK, you don't have to vote" stance - willfully or otherwise. It's not about stopping anything. It's about biding our time so that we can, after this year, stop the fascists. But because people like you are incapable of recognizing historical patterns, or nuance, we likely won't get that chance. 

And as is so often the case, you'll look back wondering how you didn't see it happening.
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Folks just wanna talk their shit on the internet to sound tough and wiser-than-though. How many of them are really out there doing the work? Getting in the streets and getting thoughtful candidates into position of power? How many are just trolling Reddit and looking for anyone else who can string a coherent sentence together that reinforces their beliefs?

Ya’ll, we are in a war against the establishment, yes. This election is one battle, amongst many in a war of attrition. What is the best, realistically achievable outcome of this election? It’s too fucking late to get a third party candidate out there a few months before the election. Start planning for the battle in 2028 now, get your troops in position. Don’t lose the battle now because of your ego.
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