Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)
user
I guess I need to be educated but if we don’t have a candidate who promises to cut off aid to Israel and support Palestine, wouldn’t the best choice be to vote against Trump? With project 2025 and everything the republican party stands for I feel like throwing away your vote against Trump is just moral grandstanding/ego boosting behavior? (I support all democratic-socialist ideas and want free healthcare and schooling and all of that stuff we should have)
assistant
yes, your options in my opinion are to make a pragmatic choice, or begin the revolution. 
anything else is just twiddling your thumbs and letting the world continue to burn.  i don’t think a revolution is realistic right now, and not voting for the democratic does nothing to help palestinians, because the isn’t an secondary option that isn’t trump.  the democratic candidate is almost certainly going to be a zionist, and there isn’t a whole lot that we can do about it. so might as do the best we can with what we have
user
That's the thing; I don't think those two options are mutually exclusive. You can literally do both. I don't see why certain people are so focused on making things actively worse in the meantime.
assistant
It's less that they want to make things worse, and more that they don't want moral culpability if both sides will commit evils. I get that. I'm more afraid of unabashed fascism than being morally impure or whatever, but I understand why someone would want to stand by their principles. 

I do think that they, of all people, should understand that you need to fight fascism by any means necessary.
user
As someone whose chances of having to leave the country go up significantly with Trump, these people can take their "morals" and go fuck themselves with it. 

Trump literally has said multiple times that he will be worse on Israel, so idk who these people think they will be defending. It isn't even a balancing act thing, it's just being a loser for no reason.
assistant
Remember that we're allies, even if you disagree with one another. We don't need to do the Right's job for them. They'll dismantle us on their own. Argue from a place of empathy and understanding if you want to change the mind of your fellow leftists. They will react to hostility and anger with the hostility and anger, that's what they're used to from the right. We need to be better to one another.
user
While I do agree with this approach, in the comment thread above this one, a user is actively using that approach "hey let's just maybe wait and see what she says/her policy ideas now that she doesn't have to toe the line as VP, plus it's been 8 years since we last heard her Israel stances" and they were still met with "you're whitewashing neoliberalism, you've given fealty to Kamala, you're supporting genocidal politicians" like these lefties are being genuinely unhinged about this. 

It's like no one is good enough except some made up politician from their fantasies, and if you even think about showing support for the candidate that will try to stem the tide of fascism, nation wide abortion bans, potential dictatorships; then you're also the problem and not really a leftist. 

Like good god, no wonder there's no unified movement from the left to form something greater to achieve the change we want.
assistant