Israelis Are Selling Stolen Palestinian Land To Americans
user
is conquered land stolen? if not then what is russia doing on ukrainian soil, also who did the land belong to before arabs invaded Judaea 13 centuries ago? didnt palestinians steal the land from israelis back then? i see alot of hypocrisy or contradiction
assistant
okay I'll just rapid fire these

-yes

-don't know anyone pro-palestine who is also anti-ukraine

-how is what happened 1300 years ago relevant?

-no, because back then it was still Palestine, Israel wasn't founded until 1948

-theres no hypocrisy, you're just looking for a way to explain why this isn't evil and are incapable of doing so
user
so it matters when it happened 75 years ago, but its not relevant when it did 1300 ago?  
so how israel existed for 3000 years but ceased to exist when arabs expanded to/invaded middle east,  
thats whats contradictory, israelis do the same what palestinians did to them in history, its just easy to say both sides are evil and genocidal, thats what humanity has always been
assistant
yes what is happening this century to people that are currently alive right now who were not alive 1300 years ago is more important. you do understand the difference between the sizes of numbers, correct? like 75 is a way smaller number than 1300, so on a linear timescale the more recent year matters more, especially when that year is this current year

do you really think Israel is entitled to genocide hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians just because they feel entitled to the land with no proof? you really think that the more just outcome between one state where everyone lives free and equal, and a genocidal apartheid state is the genocidal apartheid state?
user
first, i wouldnt call that genocide, just collateral victims, (hard to conduct military operations in area with that density of occupation lol),   


second, its not just about palestine vs israel, as both sides are puppeted by world powers, we use israel to fight iran, and iran uses palestine/lebanon to fight USA and spread shia (aka. fake islam in words of sunni muslims, reason why no islam nation took palestinian refugees roflmao)  


third, we can condemn israeli brutality, but if they were in the other shoes, palestinians would have done the same or worse to jews under the rule of hamas. I think palestinians are free to fulfill israeli requirements, lay down weapons, down the hamas etc, they just choose not to (because Iran tells them so :)). If you live by western standards in western nation, let me tell you, palestinians with their sharia laws and jihadi mindset are not your friends, they are your enemy.
assistant
okay you already lost me at "I wouldn't call it genocide" because literally everyone but the pro-israel crowd would call it that. like just say you're pro genocide it's not like anyone is going to think any different when you try to hide your actual stance
user
i dont think israel has business wasting 100k$ 1 tonne JDAMs on primary civilian targets doing 'genocide', probably all their targets have some sorts of military association (with some errors obviosuly), and theres obviously massive amount of collateral damage and victims. But i dont see israel performing carpet bombing with thermite weapons either, nor executing civilians at random and dumping them in mass graves

I see that palestine and hezbollah do similar things - targeting civilian targets with unguided rockets on daily basis - most of them is intercepted though so you dont get to see the damage they do, but Oct 7 is the reminder of their true intentions, mindless killing of innocents which hassan viewers seem to justify

and I dont really have sympathy towards palestinians, as im culturally closer to israelis (nobody would stone me to death for listening to music or eating pork, or drinking beer on a beach etc :) ) but sure, we can say both sides DID and DO genocide to be fair.

hopefully you dont deny that shooting unguided missiles at random cities is not a war crime or act of terrorism at least if not genocide, in my interest (as i live in a western country) is obviously the definitive victory of israel and so western values which i represent. genocide is pointless, but you for sure dont want another country under jihad which actually promotes genocide
assistant