Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)
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Liberals in this sub have come all out regarding Kamala in a way they hadn't for biden. That's pretty wild and also pretty sad.
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Becoming increasingly clear that “Biden being old” was the main point of contention, and not him and his admin being modern day Himmlers
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Harris is the only realistic chance we have at ending the genocide, realistically. I think people forget how uniquely ideologically Zionist Biden is, being the #1 israel lobby recipient. It's not a given that she will go against 85% of dems that want a permanent ceasefire.

If she signals that she will create a permanent ceasefire, I'd say vote for her. If not, apply electoral pressure and hope she does. We fought hard to remove Biden, so why would anyone ever listen to us again if we just refuse to vote for the replacement unconditionally?
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The US support Israel is because of core imperial interests of the United States in an oil rich region. Biden loves Israel, that’s irrelevant to why the US supports Israel.

Eg. the house and Senate passed bills that explicitly said criticism of Israel was antisemitism. They didn’t do that because Biden loves Israel.

It’s actually an extremely high amount of wish casting Kamala Harris is materially different from Joe Biden. She will be Much better on rhetoric. Doubt her administration stops the flow of bombs or intimidating international organizations with the threat of sanctions for criticizing Israel.

Most of the political positions in the state department and defence department will be the exact same people that Biden is using.

Eg. I would be shocked if she replaced Anthony blinken.


Edit: leftists had zero percent to do with Biden being removed. I am sorry guys that is just misinformation. Supporting genocide was zero percent of why Biden was removed.

In fact, I would go further and say that AOC, Omar, Bernie, etc were the strongest defenders of Biden by the end.

Biden got removed by establishment leaders, purple state and purple district Democrats and most importantly the mega donors that threatened to cut off all funding.
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You're right that material interests drive America's support for Israel, but that support has not always been unconditional. Reagan and HW Bush both told Israel to cut that shit out, and they did. It would not take much pressure to force Israel to into a ceasefire, and that would honestly be in the best material interest for the US AND Israel long term. 

Again, I'm not asking you to unconditionally support her. If you're already posting about electoral politics, why not just say "I will vote for her if she demonstrates to me that she will create a permanent ceasefire in gaza"?

(I did not mean to imply that the left got Biden to drop out. I was saying that we spent all our energy for nearly a year pushing for that to happen, so why would anyone (I mean anyone, not just politicians) take what we say seriously if we dismiss the replacement out of hand? It makes our movement look unserious and our demands insincere to outsiders.)
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