Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)
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So I normally don't mind shitting on Democrat candidates, especially when they're established politicians to begin with. That being said, ever since she got endorsed by Biden, every single one of my progressive/lefty subreddits I follow have been flooded with negative Kamala articles and posts that date back 7+ years. I hate to break it to everyone here, but Kamala is as left of a candidate as you're going to see in 2024. An open convention will produce someone to the right of her. Instead of instantly dogpiling, why don't we just wait to see what her policies are? Yes, the liberal response of "enjoy camps" is crazy, but to also say you're not voting for her before we even really know what her big policies are is wild too
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&gt;Say you’re not voting for her when you don’t even know what her policies are

You are going to vote her her regardless of what her policies are, and are swearing complete fealty to her. I’m confused as to what’s the difference here? At least I can reliably predict that her policies won’t deviate too much from the admin she was a part of

Edit: Dowvoted in the Hasan subreddit for literally repeating the streamers own stance

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&gt;You are going to vote her her regardless of what her policies are, and are swearing complete fealty to her.

What part of what I said gave you the impression I'm swearing fealty to her? I literally said "wait to hear her policies rather than just dogpile based on her past views" and you're saying "you're a sworn vassal of Kamala now". You guys are so goofy
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So let’s get this straight:

Step 1: Stop the “dog piling” on Kamala based off of the things she’s said and done (the most accurate measure to gauge what a politician will do in the future)

Step 2: Wait for her to declare her platform

Step 3: ???
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Yeah? A lot has happened in the past 8 years. Kamala went from being more progressive early on (co-sponsoring a bill with Bernie) to moving more moderate (still left of Biden) prior to becoming VP. Once you become VP, your views are not allowed to deviate from the president's, so we haven't really had an insight into which way her views are going aside from Politico leaks trying to distance herself from Biden's hardline Israel support. She's finally unleashed from Biden so she can communicate more freely. She is much younger than Biden and more in touch with younger generations, so there is a chance her platform could be quite different while also not contradicting the current administration. Maybe it will be the same, but we really don't know yet
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&gt;From the politico leaks

These are the same admin leaks in which Biden expressed his constant frustration with Bibi as he continued to give nearly unprecedented support to Israel? You can look at leaks or you can look at her actual record
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And her record shows that she will probably be less pro-israel? Don't get me wrong, I don't at all think she's going to be super pro-Palestine, but I do think she won't unconditionally support Israel like Genocide Joe does. There have been reports that former administration members who resigned over Biden supporting the genocide think that Harris will have better policy around the Middle East. That includes not-anonymously, Hala Rharrat who while still working in the state department had been requesting the US craft statements condemning actions Israel took and requested them to be written by Kamala because she thought her rhetoric towards Palestine was more "forward-leaning". Other current administration officials who have criticized Joe's unconditional support have said, "With President Harris, a two-state solution may finally be possible,". Now, I don't like ethnostates, but I do know that a two-state solution would be infinitely better than the Trump proposal from 2020 with all the bantustans.
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