Azadeh: The recent increase in the amount of organically produced food indicates that consumers are taking a greater interest in the environment  Thus, there is new hope for a healthier planet
Ben: No, Azadeh, if you interviewed people who buy organic produce, you' d see that they' re actually as selfish as everyone else, since they' re motivated only by worries about their own health
people can be persuaded to have a greater concern for the environment than they now have