He laughs as he is taped saying: "Just, as Drummer (then-CEO David Drumm) would say, 'picked it out of my arse'."
Kapu na omalimbililo kutya oto ka tanga Tate yetu gwomegulu ngaashi David ngoka i imbi a ti: "Onda hala aluhe okupandula Omuwa; itandi hulitha oku mu hambelela.