url: =The Hellenic Radio (ERA): News in Greek, 04-08-05\n Treis protaseis EKAB: Anastolh kinhtopoihsewn\n Sth Bretania Syllhch epikindynoy meloys ths Al Kainta\n Me anakoinwsh se islamikh istoselida Islamikes organwseis arnoyntai tis\n Toylaxiston pente nekroi Nea ekrhjh pagideymenoy aytokinhtoy sto Irak\n Toylaxiston 20 atoma exasan th zwh toys Maxes sth Mosoylh\n Ekkaqaristikes epixeirhseis sth Gaza\n 42 skotwqhkan kai 80 traymatisthkan Polynekres sygkroyseis sthn Yemenh\n To diadiktyo blaptei sobara thn ygeia Anabolh strateyshs logw eqismoy\n Sta Katexomena Nea synanthsh Anastasiadh-Talat\n Terma o Lizarazoy apo th Gallia\n Se hlikia 95 etwn Peqane o Gallos fwtografos Anri Kartie Mpreson\n Jespase ta mesanyxta se kentro ippasias Epta efhboi nekroi se pyrkagia\n4/8/2004 11:25:00 mm (Teleytaia enhmerwsh: 5/8/2004 12:04:31 pm)\nThn anastolh twn kinhtopoihsewn toys apofasisan to brady ths Tetarths, oi ergazomenoi sto EKAB Attikhs, apodexomenoi thn protash toy ypoyrgoy Ygeias kai Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs N. Kaklamanh. Qesmoqethsh toy epidomatos etoimothtas (40 eyrw) apo thn 1h Septembrioy 2004, ayjhsh toy epidomatos sta 50 eyrw thn 1h Ianoyarioy 2005 (me timariqmikh anaprosarmogh) kai katabolh yperwriakhs apozhmiwshs gia tis hmeres twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, perilambanei h protash poy ekane, o k. Kaklamanhs, sto proedreio toy syllogoy ergazomenwn toy EKAB Attikhs.\n5/8/2004 7:23:00 pm\nH bretanikh astynomia synelabe ena melos ths Al Kainta poy pisteyetai oti briskotan sthn telikh fash proetoimasias mias tromokratikhs epiqeshs enantion toy Xiqrooy, toy kyrioteroy aerodromioy toy Londinoy, yposthrizei h efhmerida "Taims" se shmerino ths dhmosieyma. Sto prwtoselido arqro ths h efhmerida grafei oti o ypoptos synelhfqh meta apo plhrofories twn pakistanikwn mystikwn yphresiwn poy aneferan oti o andras aytos, poy qewreitai ws o arxhgos twn epixeirhsewn ths Al Kainta sth Bretania, lambane entoles kateyqeian apo ton Osama mpin Lanten.\nOi "Taims" epikaloyntai Pakistanoys ajiwmatoyxoys poy ferontai na dhlwsan oti oi plhrofories sxetika me thn epiqesh sto Xiqrooy breqhkan ston hlektroniko ypologisth enos meloys ths Al Kainta poy synelhfqh ton perasmeno mhna sto Pakistan. Aytos o andras eixe analabei na stelnei kwdikopoihmena mhnymata sta melh toy diktyoy se olo ton kosmo.\nTo reportaz twn "Taims" dhmosieyetai dyo hmeres meta tis syllhceis 13 andrwn hlikias apo 20 ews 30 etwn sto Londino kai se alles bretanikes poleis apo thn antitromokratikh yphresia. O enas apo toys syllhfqentes afeqhke eleyqeros thn Tetarth xwris na toy apaggelqoyn kathgories.\nSymfwna me thn efhmerida "San" oi mazikes syllhceis ths perasmenhs Triths eginan me aformh tis plhrofories poy breqhkan ston hlektroniko ypologisth toy Moxament Nasem Noyr Xan, o opoios eixe syllhfqei sto Pakistan ton Ioylio.\nMe anakoinwsh se islamikh istoselida Islamikes organwseis arnoyntai tis epiqeseis stis ekklhsies\n5/8/2004 7:54:00 pm\nTreis islamikes organwseis dieceysan thn Tetarth oti melh toys enexontai stis bombistikes epiqeseis enantion ekklhsiwn sto Irak poy eixan ws apotelesma na xasoyn th zwh toys toylaxiston enteka anqrwpoi, opws anaferetai se anakoinwsh poy dhmosieyetai se islamikes istoselides. "Opoiadhpote prospaqeia na xrhsimopoihqoyn aytes oi anohtes ekrhjeis enantion twn Moytzaxentin einai katadikasmenh na apotyxei" anaferei h anakoinwsh poy ypografetai apo to Kentro Plhroforhshs twn Moytzaxentin. Oi organwseis Epilarxia toy Tzixant, Islamikes Stratiwtikes Tajiarxies kai Symboyleytiko Symboylio toy Tzixant strefontai kata toy symboyloy se qemata eqnikhs asfaleias toy Irak, Mooyafak al-Roympaie (o opoios kathgorhse ton Ampoy Moysamp al-Zarkaoyi gia tis epiqeseis ths perasmenhs Kyriakhs) kai ton kathgoroyn oti eixe anamijh stis ekrhjeis "me th bohqeia twn Siwnistwn kai twn Amerikanwn".\n"To epipedo aytwn twn epixeirhsewn htan kata poly xamhlotero apo ayto twn Moytzaxentin. An oi Moytzaxentin eixan apofasisei na epiteqoyn stis ekklhsies (...) de qa ebgaine kaneis zwntanos;" prostiqetai sto keimeno.\nH anakoinwsh, h ayqentikothta ths opoias den exei epibebaiwqei, tonizei oti oi Islamistes maxhtes qa epiteqoyn mono se xristianoys poy bohqoyn toys katakthtes h poy kriqhkan enoxoi prodosias h diafqoras h ekanan proshlytismo.\nAgnwsth organwsh pisw thn epiqesh stis ekklhsies\n5/8/2004 8:54:00 pm (Teleytaia enhmerwsh: 5/8/2004 10:11:33 pm)\nPhgh: Reuters, Galliko Praktoreio, APE\nToylaxiston pente Irakinoi exasan th zwh toys kai 20 traymatisthkan se epiqesh aytoktonias me pagideymeno aytokinhto ejw apo astynomiko tmhma sthn polh Maxagoyil, 75 xiliometra notia ths Bagdaths, anakoinwse to irakino ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. H ekrhjh akoloyqhse apopeira epiqeshs enoplwn sto astynomiko tmhma ths polhs. Oi enoploi anoijan pyr enantion twn astynomikwn poy apanthsan sta pyra ypoxrewnontas toys na apomakrynqoyn. Liga lepta argotera enas kamikazi odhghse ena forthgaki ejw apo to astynomiko tmhma kai to anatinaje.\n5/8/2004 9:09:00 pm\nPhgh: Galliko Praktoreio\nEikosi dyo atoma, metajy twn opoiwn 14 polites, exasan th zwh toys kata th diarkeia sfodrwn poy shmeiwqhkan thn Tetarth sth Mosoylh metajy ths irakinhs astynomias kai antartwn. Symfwna me ton amerikaniko strato, oi sygkroyseis jespasan otan oi antartes epiteqhkan enantion politwn kai skotwsan 14 atoma. Akoloyqhse epembash toy irakinoy stratoy apo thn opoia skotwqhkan oktw antartes kai synelhfqhsan dyo. Synolika 52 traymaties diakomisthkan sto nosokomeio ths polhs. Shmeiwnetai oti symfwna me ekproswpo ths topikhs kybernhshs kata th diarkeia twn sygkroysewn aytwn skotwqhke o adelfos toy idryth ths irakinhs koyrdikhs islamikhs organwshs Ansar al Islam, toy moyla Krekar, gegonos to opoio dieceyse o dikhgoros toy Krekar prosqetontas: "O moylas Krekar den exei aderfo me ayto to onoma".\nSkotwqhke o adelfos toy hgeth ths Ansar al Islam\n5/8/2004 9:22:00 pm\nEkkaqaristikes epixeirhseis sto boreio tmhma ths Lwridas ths Gazas pragmatopoiei o israhlinos stratos me stoxo thn ejoydeterwsh twn basewn poy xrhsimopoioyn oi Palaistinioi gia na balloyn me royketes Kasam enantion ebraikwn oikismwn. Kata th diarkeia twn epixeirhsewn exasan th zwh toys 5 Palaistinioi, enw symfwna me palaistiniakes nosokomeiakes phges, apo tis epidromes twn Israhlinwn traymatisthkan toylaxiston 25 Palaistinioi. Sto metajy, thn Pempth oloklhrwqhke h apoxwrhsh toy israhlinoy stratoy apo thn polh Mpeit Xanoyn thn opoia eixe katalabei apo tis 29 Ioynioy meta apo epiqesh Palaistiniwn me royketes Kasam poy eixe ws apotelesma na skotwqoyn dyo Israhlinoi.\nO epikefalhs toy programmatos twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn gia thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias stoys Palaistinioys prosfyges, Piter Xansen, edwse entolh stoys 19 ypallhloys toy OHE sthn perioxh na egkataleicoyn th Lwrida ths Gazas kai na metaboyn proswrina sto Aman ths Iordanias, mexri na beltiwqoyn oi synqhkes asfaleias sth Gaza.\nEpiqesh me royketes enantion toy Saron\n5/8/2004 8:53:00 pm\nSaranta dyo atoma skotwqhkan kai perissotera apo 80 traymatisthkan to teleytaio 24wro sthn Yemenh kata th diarkeia sfodrwn sygkroysewn poy jespasan anamesa stis kybernhtikes dynameis kai ejtremistes Islamistes, oi opoioi yposthrizoyn ton seixh Xoysein Mpantr Entin al Xoyti, anakoinwsan stratiwtikes phges sth Sanaa. Oi sygkroyseis jespasan sthn oreinh perioxh Maran otan o stratos ejapelyse ekkaqaristikh epixeirhsh me stoxo thn ejarqrwsh toy diktyoy ths organwshs toy Al Xoyti boreiodytikes perioxes ths Yemenhs. Sthn perioxh ayth exoyn sygkentrwqei xiliades enoploi opadoi toy Al Xoyti.\nTo diadiktyo blaptei sobara thn ygeia Anabolh strateyshs logw eqismoy sto internet\n5/8/2004 9:48:00 pm\nEjarthmenoi den einai mono oi xrhstes twn narkwtikwn, alla kai oi xrhstes toy internet. Akatallhloi gia to finlandiko strato kriqhkan nearoi stratiwtes oi opoioi molis pathsan to podi toys sto stratopedo arxisan na niwqoyn tosh melagxolia apo thn elleich ypologisth, poy oi giatroi apofasisan oti qa prepei na diakocoyn th qhteia toys. Oi Enoples Dynameis ths Finlandias anakoinwsan oti oi neoi stratiwtes eixan tosh anagkh toys ypologistes toys poy den antexan na meinoyn makria toys toys molis eji mhnes ths ypoxrewtikhs qhteias.\nMalista, o ajiwmatikos toy grafeioy stratologias eipe oti h katastash orismenwn htan toso sobarh poy xarakthristhkan ws ejarthmenoi kai prosqese: "Gia aytoys poy paizoyn olh th nyxta paixnidia sto internet, den exoyn filoys kai xompi, o stratos einai ena megalo sok". Gia to logo ayto o stratos apofasise na toys steilei spiti toys kai na toys janakalesei meta apo tria xronia. Den yparxoyn epishma stoixeia toy stratoy gia ton ariqmo twn newn poy anagkasthkan na ton egkataleicoyn ejaitias toy eqismoy toys, enw ta stoixeia deixnoyn oti panw apo to 44% toy plhqysmoy ths xwras xrhsimopoiei to internet se kaqhmerinh bash.\n5/8/2004 9:33:00 pm\nDeyterh synanthsh mesa se mia ebdomada qa exei stis 10 to prwi sta Katexomena o proedros toy DHSY Nikos Anastasiadhs me ton legomeno prwqypoyrgo Mexmet Ali Talat. H synanthsh poy qa ginei kat' idian, qa ginei sta grafeia toy Repoymplikanoy Toyrkikoy Kommatos sta katexomena. Meta th synanthsh me ton Mexmet Ali Talat, antiproswpeia toy DHSY, ypo ton k. Anastasiadh, qa exei synanthsh me ton hgeth toy Kinhmatos Eirhnhs kai Dhmokratias Moystafa Akintzi. O k. Anastasiadhs thn perasmenh Paraskeyh eixe synanthsh me ton Mexmet Ali Talat sto plaisio synomiliwn antiproswpeiwn twn dyo kommatwn. Meta thn synanthsh toys o k. Anastasiadhs enhmerwse ton Proedro Papadopoylo.\n5/8/2004 10:56:00 pm\nDe qa janaforesei th fanela twn "trikolor" o Gallos dieqnhs Mpisen Lizarazoy symfwna me th synenteyjh poy paraxwrhse sthn gallikh "LEquipe" kai thn opoia dhmosieyei shmera h gallikh efhmerida. Oson afora toys logoys poy odhghsan ton pagkosmio prwtaqlhth na pei ``antio'' sto antiproswpeytiko sygkrothma, einai h mexri xqes elaxisth proswpikh zwh logw twn agwnistikwn toy ypoxrewsewn alla kai h oikogeneia toy. Meta to Lizarazoy omws foboi gia endexomenh apoxwrhsh yparxoyn kai gia to Zintan, me ton opoio o Gallos omospondiakos texnikos qa prospaqhsei se prosexh synanthsh, na ton peisei na parameinei.\nDen exei proswpikh zwh\nDen apefere karpoys h prosfath diwrh syzhthsh toy Galloy eklektora Raimon Ntomenek me to dieqnh Mpisen Lizarazoy, thn prohgoymenh Trith sth Massalia.\nPara thn prospaqeia toy Ntomenek, o amyntikos ths germanikhs Mpagern Monaxoy "phre telika thn apofash na mhn synexisei thn kariera toy sthn Eqnikh Gallias", opws anaferei shmera xarakthristika h LEquipe".\n``Sthn diarkeia twn teleytaiwn epta xronwn sthn Mpagern Monaxoy, exw dwsei to 100% ths energeias moy sthn Eqnikh Gallias kai ston syllogo moy" tonise o Lizarazoy kai ejhghse toys logoys poy ton wqhsan se ayth toy thn apofash: "Twra xreiazomai perissotero xrono gia thn proswpikh zwh moy kai idiaitera gia ta paidia moy''.\nSeira pairnei o "Zizoy"\nSe mia paromoia synanthsh me ayth toy Lizarazoy, poy elpizei omws na exei diaforetikh katalhjh qa proskalesei tis prosexeis hmeres o Ntomenek kai to dekari twn "peteinwn" Zinentin Zintan. Se ayth o eklektoras twn trikolor poy hdh zhthse apo ton "Zizoy" na anaballei to ``antio'' apo to antiproswpeytiko sygkrothma qa zhthsei apo ton arxhgo na parateinei t thn paramonh toy sthn eqnikh, toylaxiston gia tis prwtes apo tis prosexeis anametrhseis.\n4/8/2004 11:04:00 mm\nEnas apo toys megaloys maitr ths fwtografias toy 20oy aiwna, o Anri Kartie Mpreson, peqane th Deytera se hlikia 95 etwn, egine shmera gnwsto apo to periballon toy. O Anri Kartie Mpreson, poy qa ginotan 96 etwn stis 22 Aygoystoy, peqane thn Deytera to prwi sthn katoikia toy "Le Clos" sto Il nte la Sorgk (notia) kai h khdeia toy egine shmera, symfwna me thn idia phgh. Gennhmenos sto Santeloy, sthn perioxh toy Parisioy, gios biomhxanoy, o kallitexnhs fwtografos epiblhqhke me to poly proswpiko toy styl, poy ton ekane ton adiamfisbhthto maitr ths gallikhs sxolhs ths fwtografias. Yphrje iero teras ths fwtografias, toso se qemata texnhs oso kai sto fwtoreportaz, sto opoio prosefere thn eygeneia toy kai tis omorfoteres selides toy, me tis dhmioyrgies toy se aspromayro film.\nH istoria mesa apo to fako toy\nApo ton ispaniko emfylio polemo sthn kinezikh epanastash, kai apo thn India ston baqy noto twn HPA, apo ton Troyman ston Nte Gkol kai apo ton Fokner ston Pikaso, poly liga htan ta gegonota kai oi gigantes ths istorias poy den katagrafhkan apo ton fako ths agaphmenhs toy Leica. Oymanisths fwtografos poy proseggize me enstikto ta qemata toy jepernoyse omws to synaisqhma me mia dynath synqesh, o Anri Kartie Mpreson, poy gia megalo diasthma doylece ws fwtoreporter, dhmioyrghse to 1947 mazi me ton Rompert Kapa, to fwtografiko praktoreio "Magnum".\nJespase ta mesanyxta se kentro ippasias Epta efhboi nekroi se pyrkagia sth Gallia\n5/8/2004 11:30:00 pm\nToylaxiston epta efhboi hlikias 13 ews 15 etwn brhkan tragiko qanato se pyrkagia, poy jespase ta mesanyxta se kentro ippasias sthn topoqesia Leseren twn Gallikwn Alpewn, sth Saboia, sthn anatolikh Gallia. H pyrkagia prokalese epishs ton sobaro traymatismo nearhs gynaikas, poy noshleyetai me egkaymata, enw akomh oi arxes den einai se qesh na dieykrinisoyn an dyo akomh atoma agnooyntai, opws eixe anakoinwsei nwritera o epikefalhs ths pyrosbestikhs ths Saboias Alen Loyigie. O synagermos gia pyrkagia hxhse gyrw stis 3.30 p.m. topikh wra (4.30 p.m. wra Elladas). H fwtia jespase se monwrofo ktirio, konta sth sxolh ippasias kai teqhke ypo elegxo dyo wres argotera.\nTo kentro ippasias apoteleitai apo dyo ktiria kai mia sxolh ippasias ths opoias h stegh katepese apo tis floges. To kentro apexei ena xiliometro apo to xwrio. Enas efhbos katafere na swqei phdwntas apo paraqyro dwmatioy toy prwtoy orofoy. Dynamh 45 andrwn ths pyrosbestikhs kanei ereynes sta ereipia, enw akomh den exoyn ginei gnwsta ta aitia, poy prokalesan thn pyrkagia. O ypoyrgos Neolaias kai Aqlhshs San-Fransoya Lamoyr, poy brisketai sthn perioxh gia na synanthsei thn omada kolymbhshs ths Gallias sto Ej-le-Mpen ths Saboias, anamenetai ston topo ths tragwdias.\neragr2html v1.00 run on Thursday, 5 August 2004 - 8:50:49 UTC


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url: =Qessalonikh 7 Dekembrioy 1998\n SYNOMILIES SHMITH ME SRENTER KAI LAFONTEN\n KAKLAMANHS: PRWTOS EQNIKOS STOXOS H ENTAJH THS KYPROY\n ELLHNIKH KOINOBOYLEYTIKH ANTIPROSWPEIA STH RWSIA\n DIAFWNIA METAJY YPOYRGEIOY DIKAIOSYNHS - AREIOY PAGOY\n SYNANTHSEIS KARAMANLH ME TA PROEDREIA THS OLME KAI THS DOE\n THN EKSTRATEIA ENHMERWSHS GIA THN EKPAIDEYTIKH METARRYQMISH SYNEXIZEI O YPOYRGOS PAIDEIAS\n TAKAS: ANAGKAIA H PROETOIMASIA TWN EPIXEIRHSEWN GIA TO EYRW\n D. MPAKATSELOS: H ONE EJAIRETIKA SHMANTIKOS EQNIKOS STOXOS\n I. STRATOS: TO EYRW QA PERIORISEI THN KYRIARXIA TOY DOLARIOY\n OI FOROLOGIKES ELAFRYNSEIS PROTERAIOTHTA GIA THN KYBERNHSH META TO '99\n D.REPPAS: TO KYPRIAKO PROBLHMA DEN EINAI MONO OI S-300\n G.KLHRIDHS: TO DEKEMBRIO OI S-300 STHN KYPRO, AN DEN SYMFWNHQEI APOSTRATIWTIKOPOIHSH\n H E.E. PROTEINEI DIEQNES DIKASTHRIO GIA OTSALAN\n RWSIA: H DOYMA PROXWRA THN PARAPOMPH GELTSIN SE DIKH\n TOYRKIA:OIKOYMENIKH KYBERNHSH EPIQYMEI H TSILER\n KOSSYFOPEDIO: OI ALBANOI APORRIPTOYN TO NEO SXEDIO XIL\n TRIBES STIS SXESEIS PGDM - O.D. GIOYGKOSLABIAS LOGW NATO\n SYNANTHSH GKEORGKIEFSKI-SOLANA STIS BRYJELLES\n"Staqmo" xarakthrise thn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enopoihsh (ONE) o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths sth diarkeia synenteyjhs Typoy, to meshmeri sth Bonnh, opoy nwritera eixe diadoxikes synanthseis me ton kagkelario, Gkerxarnt Srenter, kai ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn, kai Proedro toy Sosialdhmokratikoy Kommatos, Oskar Lafonten.\nOpws eipe o prwqypoyrgos, stis synomilies poy eixe toy doqhke h dynatothta na anaptyjei tis ellhnikes qeseis se ola ta qemata poy aforoyn th xwra mas, enw taytoxrona egine ektenhs anafora sthn Eyrwpaikh Oloklhrwsh kai stis dieqneis ejelijeis.\nToso stis dhlwseis, poy eginan amesws meta th synanthsh me tom Germano kagkelario, sthn opoia metajy allwn meteixan o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, Qeodwros Pagkalos kai o yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, Giannos Kranidiwths, oso kai sth diarkeia ths synenteyjhs, o k. Shmiths tonise oti "h Eyrwph prepei na apokthsei nees prooptikes". "Kyriws mas endiaferei na prowqhsoyme thn koinh ejwterikh politikh kai thn politikh asfaleias (KEPPA) kai na prosdwsoyme sthn Eyrwph neo periexomeno. S' ayto synypologizetai to zhthma ths anergias kai ths apasxolhshs. Prepei -synexixe o prwqypoyrgos- na meiwsoyme ton ariqmo twn anergwn kai kyriws na dwsoyme stoys neoys eykairies gia apasxolhsh".\nSxetika me tis sxeseis ths Kyproy me thn EE, o k. Shmiths epanelabe oti oi entajiakes diapragmateyseis exoyn jekinhsei kai qa synexisqoyn kanonika, kai pws h epilysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos, me thn katoxh tmhmatos ths Megalonhsoy apo thn Toyrkia, den mporei se kamia periptwsh na apotelesei proypoqesh gia thn entajh ths Kyproy.\nAnaferomenos sthn Toyrkia, eipe oti h Ellada epiqymei thn entajh ths sthn EE, alla gia na ginei ayto h Toyrkia qa prepei na ekplhrwsei toys isxyontess kanones, poy einai idioi gia oloys. Den mporoyn na ginoyn ejaireseis gia thn Toyrkia, prosqese o prwqypoyrgos.\nStis synomilies toy prwqypoyrgoy me toys Germanoys ajiwmatoyxoys syzhthqhkan kai oi sxeseis ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs me tis xwres twn Balkaniwn, opoy -opws epeshmane o k. Shmiths- panta yparxoyn esties diataraxwn. "Prepei -synexise- na katastei dynath h xarajh mias politikhs kai h ekponhsh strathgikwn, sto plaisio ths KEPPA, wste na yparjei s' ayth thn eyaisqhth perioxh eirhnh kai asfaleia". O prwqypoyrgos eqese kai to qema twn polemikwn epanorqwsewn kai toy Katoxikoy daneioy, alla h stash toy k. Srenter htan arnhtikh.\nAnalogh htan h qesh toy kagkelarioy ki otan rwthqhke apo toys dhmosiografoys gia to idio zhthma. "Den blepw kapoia dynatothta na epanelqoyme s' ayto to zhthma, eipe o k.Srenter. Pisteyw, tonise, oti sto plaisio twn symbatikwn symfwniwn, alla kai sto plaisio ths filias poy exei anaptyxqei metajy twn kratwn mas, to zhthma ayto exei kleisei".\nSth diarkeia ths synenteyjhs, sto metajy, kai erwtwmenos apo Toyrko dhmosiografo pws sxoliazei tis gnwstes dhlwseis toy Koyrdoy hgeth Ampntoyllax Otzalan sthn koyrdikh efhmerida "Ozgkioyr Politika", oti dhladh breqhke sto aerodromio ths Aqhnas, prin metabei sth Mosxa, o k. Shmiths ypenqymise th dhlwsh toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy, legontas kai o idios oti "ayto den einai alhqeia". Me aformh thn erwthsh, o k. Shmiths anaferqhke sto Koyrdiko zhthma, kai eipe oti to problhma einai yparkto kai pws oi xwres ths EE prepei na antimetwpisoyn synolika kai enwmena thn ypoqesh twn Koyrdwn kai na broyn mia lysh.\nMeta th synenteyjh, o k. Shmiths parabreqhke se syndiaskech stelexwn toy PASOK sth Germania, kai nwris to brady anaxwrhse gia thn Aqhna.\n"O yp' ariqmon ena eqnikos stoxos gia oloklhro ton ellhnismo qa prepei na einai h entajh ths Kyproy sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh poy einai bebaio oti qa symbalei apofasistika sthn epilysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos".\nAyto tonise o Proedros ths Boylhs, Apostolos Kaklamanhs sth synanthsh poy eixe shmera sto ktirio ths Boylhs me ta melh toy dhmotikoy symboylioy toy katexomenoy Dhmoy Morfoy, poy episkeptontai thn Ellada sto plaisio diafwtistikhs ekstrateias gia tis trexoyses ejelijeis sto Kypriako.\nAnaferomenos sto qema twn pyraylwn S-300, o Proedros ths Boylhs epishmane oti "apenanti mas den einai oi Toyrkoi, alla oi Amerikanoi poy ejakoloyqoyn na antimetwpizoyn akomh kai shmera th Rwsia me ta krithria toy "cyxroy polemoy", giati den qeloyn mia eniaia Eyrwph, alla mia Eyrwph me antipalothtes.\nSe oti afora to qema ayto kai toys mellontikoys xeirismoys, o k.Kaklamanhs ejefrase thn eyxh oi kybernhseis Elladas kai Kyproy na staqmisoyn me idiaiterh prosoxh tis apofaseis toys, wste na mhn prosteqoyn nea laqh se ekeina toy parelqontos.\nO Proedros ths Boylhs tonise epishs, thn anagkh egrhgorshs toy apantaxoy ellhnismoy, ypogrammizontas oti "h oikonomikh proodos kai h eymareia poy yparxoyn shmera sthn Kypro den prepei na odhghsoyn se efhsyxasmo oyte na apomakrynoyn thn prosoxh kanenos apo thn sklhrh alhqeia ths katoxhs kai twn yparktwn kindynwn gia oloklhrh thn Kypro, oso to problhma paramenei alyto".\nDen pareleice wstoso na ekfrasei ton qaymasmo toy gia tis patriwtikes ekdhlwseis ths maqhtiwsas neolaias ths Kyproy, kata ths anakhryjhs toy toyrkokypriakoy ceydokratoys, tis opoies eixe thn eykairia na parakoloyqhsei kata thn prosfath episkech toy sth Leykwsia, opoy htan o kyrios omilhths sthn megalh antikatoxikh ekdhlwsh.\n"Sthn katexomenh Kypro", katelhje o k. Kaklamanhs "to dieqnes dikaio geloiopoieitai kaqhmerina kai ejeytelizontai osoi probainoyn se energeies amfisbhthshs ths eqnikhs kyriarxias kratwn se orismenes gwnies toy planhth, alla parallhla nomimopoioyn sthn prajh to pio barbaro deigma epektatismoy poy epibiwnei sthn Eyrwph, meta to telos ths cyxropolemikhs periodoy".\nApo thn pleyra ths h Dhmarxos Morfoy, Antigonh Papadopoyloy enhmerwse ton Proedro ths Boylhs gia tis epafes twn melwn toy Dhmotikoy Symboylioy ths katexomenhs polhs, me melh toy Bretanikoy kai toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy, poy eixan ws stoxo thn ypenqymish pros th dieqnh koinh gnwmh, oti sthn Kypro synexizetai epi 25 xronia h katoxh toy 40% toy edafoys ths apo tis toyrkikes dynameis eisbolhs. H ka Papadopoyloy epedwse epishs, ston Proedro ths Boylhs chfisma diamartyrias me to opoio kataggelletai h toyrkikh adiallajia kai oi proklhtikes energeies toy toyrkokypriakoy ceydokratoys, enw parallhla ekfrazetai h apogohteysh twn xiliadwn prosfygwn, twn syggenwn twn agnooymenwn kai twn egklwbismenwn gia th synexish ths tragwdias ths Kyproy.\nEpedwse telos, ston k. Kaklamanh anamnhstikh plaketa me to emblhma toy Dhmoy ths katexomenhs Morfoy, sthn opoia anagrafontai stixoi toy poihth Dhmhtrh Liperth, me toys opoioys ekfrazetai h euw^ "na anateilei h mera ths leyterias gia thn megalonhso".\nAnaxwrhse shmera gia th Rwsia ellhnikh koinoboyleytikh antiproswpeia, prokeimenoy na labei meros stis ergasies ths Koinoboyleytikhs Syneleyshs oikonomikhs synergasias twn xwrwn- melwn ths OSEP, oi opoies diejagontai sthn Agia Petroypolh apo tis 8 ews tis 10 Dekembrioy, me kentriko qema th nomikh, qesmikh kai politikh anabaqmish ths Organwshs.\nEpikefalhs ths antiproswpeias einai h boyleyths, Maria Arsenh kai metexoyn oi boyleytes k.k. Alejandros Damianidhs, Iwannhs Tsaklidhs, Panagiwths Fwtiadhs, Qeodwros Kassimhs kai Aqanasios Nakos.\nStis ergasies ths Syneleyshs, sthn opoia metexoyn ekprooswpoi 11 xwrwn, qa syzhthqoyn metajy allwn qemata sxetika me tis metaforas, thn akadhmaikh synergasia, kaqws kai h dhmioyrgia nomoqetikoy plaisioy gia thn apofygh diplhs forologias.\nSto "shmeio mhden" briskontai pleon oi sxeseis toy ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs , me thn hgesia toy Areioy Pagoy. H krish poy ypeboske, ekdhlwqhke anoixta , sth diarkeia ths genikhs syneleyshs ths Enwshs Eisaggelewn, otan o paristamenos ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs Eyaggelos Giannopoylos, logomaxhse entona me ton proedro toy Areioy Pagoy Stefano Matqia, alla kai ton eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy Panagiwth Dhmopoylo.\nAformh gia thn ekdhlwsh ths anoixths diafwnias, htan diatajh se sxedio nomoy, poy katateqhke sth Boylh, me thn opoia, opws yposthrizei h hgesia toy Areioy Pagoy, parexetai h dynatothta ston ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs, na apostellei egkyklioys pros tis dikastikes arxes, apeyqynontas systaseis, gia ton tropo antimetwpishs toy organwmenoy egklhmatos kai dia ayths ths odoy anoigei o dromos gia parembaseis ths ektelestikhs ejoysias sto dikaiodotiko ergo ths Dikaiosynhs. Apo thn pleyra toy o k. Giannopoylos yposthrizontas th diatajh tonizei oti me aythn epixeireitai na antimetwpistei to mega problhma ths ayjanomenhs egklhmatikothtas kai oti se kaqe periptwsh h diatajh ayth enarmonizetai plhrws me to sxetiko kefalaio toy Syntagmatos.\nYpenqymizetai oti stis 25 Aygoystoy toy 1997 , me epistolh toy ston Eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy, o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs Eyaggelos Giannopoylos, afoy anaferotan stis mastiges twn narkwtikwn kai ths tokoglyfias, parhggeile th dienergeia poinikhs prokatarktikhs ejetasews apo toys kata topoys Eisaggeleis Efetes, me antikeimeno thn epishmansh drastwn egklhmatikwn prajewn, entos kai ektos twn fylakwn, me kyrio ajona ta narkwtika kai basiko qyma thn ellhnikh neolaia. O k. Giannopoylos, sthn idia epistolh, zhta na jekinhsei mia ekstrateia apo oloys toys mhxanismoys toy kratoys, gia th rizikh antimetwpish ths mastigas twn narkwtikwn, kanontas logo gia kyklwma poy ektos twn allwn egklhmatikwn- dolofonikwn prajewn, organwnei kai tis apodraseis egklhmatikwn proswpwn apo tis fylakes.\nSynanthseis me ta proedreia ths OLME kai ths didaskalikhs omospondias eixe to meshmeri o proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias, Kwstas Karamanlhs. O arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs zhthse thn anastolh thsonomazomenhs ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs, opws eipe xarakthristika, kai ypogrammise thn anagkh enarjhs enos oysiastikoy eqnikoy dialogoy gia thn paideia.\nApo thn pleyra toy o Proedros ths Didaskalikhs Omospondias, Xrhstos Xrhstoy, shmeiwse oti yphrje taytish apocewn me ton k. Karamanlh, oson afora sthn anagkh eqnikoy dialogoy gia thn anabaqmish toy ekpaideytikoy systhmatos.\nThn ekstrateia enhmerwshs maqhtwn, ekpaideytikwn kai gonewn gia thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish synexizei o ypoyrgos Paideias, Gerasimos Arsenhs. Milwntas shmera se dieyqyntes Lykeiwn o k. Arsenhs synesthse prosoxh stoys maqhtes wste na mhn pesoyn qymata paraplhroforhshs. Epanelabe oti oi maqhtes poy kanoyn katalhceis timwroyn toys eaytoys toys kai tonise oti h hmeromhnia twn ejetasewn den prokeitai na allajei.\nOi kinhtopoihseis twn maqhtwn synexizontai kaqws ekatontades sxoleia kai arketes panepisthmiakes sxoles teloyn ypo katalhch se olh th xwra. To prwi maqhtes Lykeioy ths Argyroypolhs apekleisan dromoys gia dyo wres. Ekneyrismenos odhgos pathse gkazi gia na perasei to dromo me apotelesma na xtyphsei enan maqhth, o opoios metaferqhke sto Asklhpieio Boylas.\nThn epitaktikh anagkh katallhlhs kai egkairhs proetoimasias twn epixeirhsewn gia thn epityxh ekmetalleysh olwn twn eykairiwn poy qa parexei to eyrw, ypogrammise o proedros toy Syndesmoy Biomhxaniwn Boreioy Ellados (SBBE), Basilhs Takas, kata th diarkeia toy xairetismoy toy sto seminario "Eyrw kai Epixeirhseis" poy pragmatopoeitai sth Qessalonikh.\nH proetoimasia twn epixeirhsewn synistatai kyriws se prosarmoges toso strathgikhs, oso kai texnikhs fysews. "To eyrw apo to 1999 qa einai de facto to eniaio nomisma stis synallages gia ola ta krath - melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Epomenws, h egkairh proetoimasia twn ellhnikwn epixeirhsewn apotelei proypoqesh gia th diekdikhsh mias armozoysas qeshs sto neo eyrwpaiko kai idiaitera antagwnistiko periballon poy anamenetai na diamorfwqei, me thn ejalleich twn synallagmatikwn empodiwn kai kindynwn", anefere xarakthristika o k. Takas.\nDieykrinise de oti "einai fysiko h eisagwgh toy eyrw na prokalesei katarxhn ena sok stis ellhnikes epixeirhseis. Grhgora omws qa apokthsoyn sygkritiko pleonekthma enanti twn antagwnistwn toys. Oso nwritera ginei h sxetikh proetoimasia kai h aparaithth prosarmogh, toso mikrotero qa einai to kostos twn allagwn kai toso lecak}teqa qa einai ta ofelh. Apaiteitai sobarh proetoimasia apo ton dhmosio tomea, ton xrhmatopistwtiko xwro kai tis epixeirhseis".\nOpws epeshmane o proedros toy SBBE, "ayto poy prepei na ginei antilhpto einai oti h omalh metabash twn epixeirhsewn sto eyrw, den einai jexwristo kommati apokleistikhs toys eyqynhs, alla entassetai sto plaisio mias polypleyrhs anagkaias anamorfwshs, ths opoias kentrikos pyrhnas einai h Politeia kai h dhmosia dioikhsh". "Eidikotera", synexise o k. Takas, "prokeitai gia mia alysida eidikwn qematwn poy prepei na ryqmistoyn kai sthn opoia emplekontai oi epixeirhseis se amesh ejarthsh apo thn Politeia, oson afora th dieyqethsh twn sxesewn me toys pelates, toys promhqeytes kai toys katanalwtes".\nAkomh tonise oti kairia energeia einai h drasthriopoihsh toy kratikoy mhxanismoy, alla kai ths idiwtikhs prwtoboylias, h opoia wstoso fainetai na prohgeitai epi toy qematos, se sygkrish me ton kratiko mhxanismo. "Paradeigmata oysiastikhs energopoihshs toy idiwtikoy tomea, einai oi etaireies logismikoy, oi opoies hdh etoimazoyn sxetika logismika paketa poy qa kalycoyn tis nees anagkes twn epixeirhsewn, kaqws kai oi polyeqnikes etaireies poy biazontai na adrajoyn thn eykairia ths ONE, gia na ayjhsoyn ta meridia toys sthn agora", shmeiwse o k. Takas. Prosqese de, oti "h organwmenh energopoihsh ths Politeias einai aparaithth, kaqws qa dhmioyrghsei to ypobaqro poy qa dieykolynei ton epixeirhmatiko kosmo kai qa dwsei oysiastika to "prostagma" gia na jekinhsei o sxediasmos gia tis anagkaies allages poy aforoyn stis texnikes prosarmoges, ston ejoplismo, stoys timokatalogoys proiontwn kai yphresiwn, sta logistika, plhroforiaka kai organwtika systhmata, sta proionta kai sth syskeyasia toys, kaqws epishs kai sth strathgikh poy perilambanei qemata sxediasmoy, prowqhshs pwlhsewn kai ekpaideyshs proswpikoy, wste telika na mporesoyn na ajiopoihsoyn ta pleonekthmata ths ONE".\nKatalhgontas eyxhqhke to seminario ayto na apotelesei gia oloys toys emplekomenoys foreis, to enaysma gia oysiastikh kai dhmioyrgikh drash, wste h Ellada na entaxqei sthn ONE kai na wfelhqei apo ayth.\n"H swsth kai egkairh proetoimasia einai to kyriotero stoixeio gia thn oso to dynaton omaloterh metabash sto neo nomisma, to eyrw", ypogrammise o proedros toy Emporikoy kai Biomhxanikoy Epimelhthrioy Qessalonikhs, Dhmhtrhs Mpakatselos, kata th diarkeia toy xairetismoy toy sto seminario "Eyrw kai epixeirhseis" poy pragmatopoieitai sth Qessalonikh kai diorganwnei to EBEQ, o Syndesmos Ellhnikwn Biomhxaniwn (SEB) kai o Syndesmos Biomhxaniwn Boreioy Ellados (SBBE). O k. Mpakatselos katesthse safh thn anagkaiothta prosarmoghs twn ellhnikwn epixeirhsewn sta nea dedomena poy paroysiazontai, kaqws kai ekplhrwshs olwn ekeinwn twn proypoqesewn, wste na katastei oso to dynaton pio omalh h metabash sto eniaio eyrwpaiko nomisma.\nSthn prwth fash gia to eyrw, poy jekinhse ton Maio toy 1998, kaqoristhke h omada twn kratwn poy plhroyn tis proypoqeseis kai qa symmetasxoyn sthn ONE apo thn 1h Ianoyarioy 1999.\n"Thn hmeromhnia ayth, qa jekinhsei h deyterh fash kai taytoxrona qa teqei se leitoyrgia h ONE opote kai oi synallagmatikes isotimies twn symmetexontwn kratwn qa kaqoristoyn ametaklhta kai to eyrw qa katastei to eniaio nomisma ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Sth fash ayth, qa mporoyn na xrhsimopoioyntai toso ta eqnika nomismata, oso kai to eyrw kai oi oikonomikoi paragontes qa mporoyn na epilejoyn metajy twn synallagwn se eyrw kai synallagwn se eqniko nomisma. Sth fash ayth, oi xrhmatagores qa arxisoyn na ekfrazontai se eyrw kai stadiaka to neo nomisma qa kaqistatai logistiko xrhma. H trith fash jekina ton Ianoyario toy 2002, opote eisagetai ypoxrewtika to eyrw sta krath - melh ths ONE kai ta eqnika nomismata aposyrontai stadiaka mexri thn 1h Ioylioy toy 2002", anefere xarakthristika o k. Mpakatselos. Parathrhse de oti para to gegonos oti "oi epidoseis ths xwras mas sta kyria makrooikonomika megeqh den kataferan na thn odhghsoyn se entajh sto prwto stadio ths ONE", wstoso "parathreitai ajioshmeiwth proshlwsh ths kybernhshs sthn epiteyjh twn stoxwn, poy ekdhlwnetai me metra dhmosionomikhs peiqarxias, alla akomh kai me meiwseis forwn kai telwn, poy ayjanei thn piqanothta na plhroi h xwra mas ta krithria sygklishs to 1999 kai na symmetasxei sto trito stadio ths ONE apo 2001". "Sthn poreia ayth, synexise o proedros toy EBEQ, "ofeiloyme oloi na exoyme to meridio ths eyqynhs mas. Oi koinwnikes omades, qa prepei oxi mono na periorisoyn tis akaires apaithseis toys, alla kai na symballoyn me qetikes protaseis sthn epiteyjh aytoy toy ejairetika shmantikoy eqnikoy stoxoy".\nOpws epeshmane o k. Mpakatselos, ta ofelh apo thn leitoyrgia ths ONE einai polla, ta kyriotera twn opoiwn einai h nomismatikh kai makrooikonomikh staqerothta kai h ejaleich toy synallagmatikoy kindynoy poy afora toso tis epixeirhseis, oso kai toys katanalwtes kai bohqa sth lhch apofasewn kai sthn enisxysh twn ependysewn, dieykolynontas th leitoyrgia ths eswterikhs agoras.\nEpishs - opws eipe o k. Mpakatselos - "me to eniaio nomisma qa dhmioyrghqei mia megalh xrhmatagora me megalyterh gkama proiontwn ependysewn kai eykairiwn. O ojyteros antagwnismos, poy qa prokycei, qa piesei times kai epitokia pros ta katw pros ofelos tym Eyrwpaiwn politwn. To eniaio nomisma qa diadramatisei enan poly shmantiko rolo sto dieqnes emporio, stis ependyseis kai stis apotamieyseis kai etsi qa katastei shmantikoteros kai o rolos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs sto Pagkosmio Nomismatiko Systhma".\nProsqese de, oti "protoy fqasoyme sth xrhsh toy neoy nomismatos, qa prepei oi kentrikes trapezes, oi agores synallagmatos, ta pistwtika idrymata, oi megales epixeirhseis kai ta systhmata hlektronikhs ypodomhs na etoimazontai pyretwdws. H eisagwgh toy eyrw gia ta 11 apo ta 15 krath - melh qa jekinhsei typika apo 1h Ianoyarioy toy 1999, enw sthn Ellada h efarmogh ths qa ginei apo 1h Ianoyarioy toy 2001 kai qa oloklhrwqei gia ola ta krath stis 31 Dekembrioy toy 2001. Synepws qa exoyme mikroterh metabatikh periodo. Bebaia, mikroterh metabatikh periodos shmainei kai megalyterh periodos proetoimasias. Taytoxrona omws mas dinei kai to pleonekthma ths eykolhs apokthshs ths texnognwsias kai twn empeiriwn twn 11 kratwn - melwn toy prwtoy stadioy. Mexri thn 1/1/2001 loipon qa prepei na etoimazomaste, ekmetalleyomenoi tis empeiries twn ypoloipwn Eyrwpaiwn etairwn mas".\n"O stoxos ths symmetoxhs sthn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh einai eqnikos. Kai o epomenos xronos qa krinei an telika qa ton epityxoyme. Gia ayto sthn prospaqeia poy apaiteitai prepei oloi na analaboyme tis eyqynes mas. Anamfisbhthta omws kyrio meridio eyqynhs barynei thn kybernhsh, h opoia prepei pleon na apodeijei oti qa proxwrhsei kai oti den qa periorisqei se aples ejaggelies".\nAyto ypogrammise metajy allwn, o proedros toy Syndesmoy Ellhnikwn Biomhxaniwn Iaswn Stratos ston xairetismo toy sto seminario "Eyrw kai epixeirhseis" poy pragmatopoieitai sth Qessalonikh.\nO proedros toy SEB tonise oti h eisagwgh toy eyrw diamorfwnei nees synqhkes leitoyrgias twn epixeirhsewn, prosqetontas oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh apotelei ws synolo oikonomikh ontothta megalyterh apo tis HPA. "H EE exei ethsio Akaqaristo Egxwrio Proion megalytero apo twn HPA, h symmetoxh ths sto dieqnes emporio einai shmantika megalyterh apo th symmetoxh twn HPA, akoma kai an afaireqoyn oi entos ths EE diasynoriakes synallages kai exei shmantika megalytera nomismatika apoqemata kai poly isxyrotero emporiko isozygio me ton ypoloipo kosmo sygkrinomenh me to elleimmatiko isozygio twn HPA. Sto dieqnes nomismatiko systhma to eyrw qa periorisei thn kyriarxia toy dolarioy poy diathrhqhke se olh thn metapolemikh periodo". Opws eipe apo mia apoch, h eisagwgh toy eyrw synepagetai th dhmioyrgia mias megalhs agoras kefalaiwn poy qa exei polaplla apotelesmata. "Prwton qa prepei na anamenetai mikroterh metablhtothta twn epitokiwn, ws apotelesma toy megeqoys ths agoras afenos, alla kai ths genikoterhs politikhs meiwsews twn dhmosionomikwn elleimmatwn. Deyteron, oi diasynoriakes ependyseis kai to emporio qa ayjhqoyn. Anamenetai na yparjei mias megalhs ektasews diadikasia ejorqologismoy kai anadiarqrwshs twn epixeirhsewn, apo thn opoia qa prokycoyn polyeqnika eyrwpaika epiweiqglatij\_ sxhmata me drasthriothta se olh thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Triton, ws apotelesma twn anwterw diergasiwn, o syndyasmos enos nomismatos kai mias enopoihmenhs agoras sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh qa symballei wste na diamorfwqei megalyteros eswterikos antagwnismos, xamhloteres times kai diafaneia timologhshs pros ofelos twn katanalwtwn" shmeiwse o k. Stratos.\nAkomh epeshmane oti "h dynamikh omws poy dhmioyrgei to eniaio nomisma einai anagkaia, alla oxi kai ikanh apo monh ths, synqhkh gia thn epiteyjh aytoy toy apotelesmatos. Parallhla, apaiteitai drash h opoia qa ypobohqhsei thn prosarmogh ths eyrwpaikhs epixeirhshs kai thn ayjhsh ths antagwnistikothtas ths. H drash ayth den mporei para na perilambanei th beltiwsh toy epixeirhmatikoy periballontos, thn allagh toy dhmosioy tomea, wste na einai mikroteros, apotelesmatikoteros kai prosanatolismenos sthn anaptyjh, alla kai thn yparjh mias synolikhs politikhs gia thn anaptyjh ths paragwghs poy qa apoblepei sth drastikh synexh beltiwsh ths ypodomhs sthn energeia, stis metafores, stis thlepikoinwnies".\nO proedros toy SEB milhse gia toys kindynoys poy piqanon na antimetwpisoyn oi xwres toy deyteroy kymatos, dhladh oi xwres poy den qa entaxqoyn thn 1h Ianoyarioy toy 1999 sthn ONE. "Oi xwres aytes qa breqoyn antimetwpes me mia seira meionekthmatwn, ta opoia apo thn idia stigmh apoteloyn pleonekthmata gia tis epixeirhseis twn symmetexontwn sthn ONE kratwn", eipe o k. Stratos. "Kata prwto logo qa synexisei na yparxei qema profylajhs enanti synallagmatikwn kindynwn. Epiprosqeta, h meiwsh toy trapezikoy kostoys gia tis diakoinotikes synallages metajy xwrwn - melwn ths ONE qa bohqhsei tis epixeirhseis twn xwrwn aytwn na beltiwsoyn perissotero thn antagwnistikothta twn proiontwn toys. Antiqeta, to kostos ayto qa synexisei na einai ychlo gia tis epixeirhseis twn ektos ONE xwrwn. Ypologizetai oti to ameso kostos gia tis epixeirhseis se mikres xwres me astaqh nomismata opws h Ellada anerxetai sto 1% toy Akaqaristoy Egxwrioy Proiontos", ypogrammise o k. Stratos.\nEpishs - opws epeshmane - ta xamhlotera makroproqesma epitokia ta opoia qa daneizontai oi epixeirhseis entos ONE, apoteloyn ena akomh stoixeio meionektikhs qeshs twn epixeirhsewn ektos ONE, poy qa antimetwpizoyn ychlotera epitokia daneismoy kai synepws ychles xrhmatooikonomikes dapanes.\n"Gia ton metriasmo twn meionekthmatwn aytwn, oi epixeirhseis se stenh synergasia me to kratos kai to trapeziko systhma, prepei na epitaxynoyn th diadikasia metabashs. O Dhmosios tomeas qa prepei na parasxei kinhtra xrhsimopoihshs toy eyrw apo tis epixeirhseis stis plhrwmes toys. O kratikos mhxanismos den prepei na staqei empodio sta sxedia twn epixeirhsewn, dysxerainontas thn prosarmogh toys sth nea pragmatikothta", ypogrammise o k. Stratos, prosqetontas oti "sto xroniko diasthma metajy ths 1hs Ianoyarioy 1999 kai ths 1hs Ianoyarioy 2001 oi ellhnikes epixeirhseis qa prepei na proetoimastoyn gia thn hmera ths entajhs, opws kai oi epixeirhseis twn xwrwn poy qa apoteloyn ta melh ths ONE apo 1/1/1999". Ejefrase de thn apoch oti oi epixeirhseis qa einai skopimo na epilejoyn th xrhsh toy eyrw kata thn metabatikh periodo, me skopo ma epwfelhqoyn apo thn prosbash se xrhmatodotika proionta ekfrasmena se eyrw, thn aplopoihsh twn logistikwn apeikonisewn, th synach symbasewn poy lhgoyn meta to 2002 kai thn apofygh ths symforhshs gia thn metatroph twn systhmatwn plhroforikhs kai thn ekpaideysh toy proswpikoy.\nKatalhgontas tonise: "Ena einai bebaio. Oi mikres kai mesaies epixeirhseis prepei na diamorfwsoyn makroproqesmh apoch gia to pws qa ephreastoyn apo thn eisagwgh toy eyrw, oxi mono se leitoyrgiko epipedo, alla kai se epipedo strathgikoy sxediasmoy. Oi epixeirhseis mporoyn na wfelhqoyn, ean kanoyn ek twn proterwn ton programmatismo toys. O apotelesmatikos sxediasmos qa toys epitrecei na karpwqoyn apo thn arxh ta emporika kai synallagmatika pleonekthmata toy eyrw kai na elaxistopoihsoyn to kostos prosarmoghs toys. Oso pio grhgora apokthsoyn syneidhsh ths neas pragmatikothtas, toso to kalytero. Skopo apotelei h beltiwsh ths paragwgikothtas kai antagwnistikothtas twn proiontwn mas. Ayth einai h proklhsh toy shmera gia na badisoyme sthn pragmatikothta toy ayrio epityxws".\nH enarjh ths syzhthshs gia to 35wro, h dhmioyrgia qesewn koinwnikhs ergasias kai oi forologikes elafrynseis einai oi treis proteraiothtes ths kybernhshs meta to 1999.\nAyto dhlwse o yfypoyrgos Ergasias, Xrhstos Prwtopapas, milwntas se hmerida syndikalistwn. Epeshmane oti h kybernhsh prosanatolizetai se syrriknwsh twn forologikwn epibarynsewn gia oses epixeirhseis proslaboyn anergoys. O proedros ths GSEE, Xrhstos Polyzwgopoylos, dhlwse oti amesws meta thn apergia ths 15hs Dekembrioy, qa apeyqynei kalesma stis ergodotikes organwseis prokeimenoy na jekinhsei twra h syzhthsh gia to 35wro.\nTo kypriako den qa prepei na antimetwpizetai ws monodiastato zhthma egkatastashs h mh twn pyraylwn S-300 sthn Kypro. H egkatastash toys qa prepei na shzhthqei ypo to prisma toy synoloy twn parametrwn toy kypriakoy problhmatos, tonise o Ypoyrgos Typoy Dhmhtrhs Reppas,meta th synanthsh toy me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Glaykos Klhridhs sth Leykwsia.\nO k. Reppas ejefrase thn apoch oti h egkatastash toy pyraylikoy systhmatos sth Megalonhso qa htan mia sofh epilogh an pragmatika enisxyei thn amyna ths kai taytoxrona symbalei sthn prowqhsh ths prospaqeias gia thn epilysh toy kypriakoy qematos. Opws prosqese, omws, an skopos ths egkatastashs einai na "apodeijoyme oti diaqetoyme apofasistikothta h ola ta pleonekthmata to opoia qewroyme oti apoktoyme pairnontas mia tetoia apofash, qa prepei na ejetastoyn oi nees epiloges ypo to prisma twn newn synqhkwn".\nO Ellhnas kybernhtikos ekproswpos tonise oti h Kypros qa proxwrhsei se opoiadhpote kinhsh qa enisxyei thn amyna ths kai qa diasfalisei thn kyriarxia ths kai h Ellada qa einai mazi ths s' ayth thn poreia.\nSxetika me tis amerikanikes diabebaiwseis gia th sygkekrimenh periodo, o k.Reppas eipe oti den arkei na ekfrazontai kales proqeseis, alla ayto poy xreiazetai einai praktika apotelesmata. Parathrhse oti dikaiologeitai mia sxetikh aisiodojia enocei ths kinhtikothtas poy exei anaptyxqei, wstoso, h anamonh qetikwn apotelesmatwn qa prepei na exei ena sygkekrimeno xroniko orizonta. "Mesa se ligoys mhnes prepei na yparxei apotelesma poy qa deixnei oti exei syntelestei sygkekrimenh proodos kai prepei na einai metrhsimes oi prospaqeies", eipe.\nO k. Reppas enhmerwse ton k. Klhridh gia ta qemata poy qa apasxolhsoyn th syskech ths Epitrophs Prowqhshs Eqnikwn Qematwn. Opws eipe oi syzhthseis qa aforoyn thn apotelesmatikothta ths probolhs twn eqnikwn qematwn sth dieqnh koinh gnwmh enocei ths neas periodoy kai tis prwtoboylies poy qa prepei na lhfqoyn "wste na ginoyn katanohtes kai telika apodektes oi qeseis poy aphxoyn tis prosdokies kai tis elpides twn Kypriwn kai twn Ellhnwn".\nO k. Reppas synanthqhke shmera epishs me ton proedro ths kypriakhs boylhs Spyro Kyprianoy, o opoios ejefrase thn pepoiqhsh oti h Ellada qa prajei ta deonta gia na jeperasei tis dyskolies oson afora thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy, kaqws kai sto qema ths anabaqmishs ths Toyrkias se ypochfia gia entajh xwra.\nO proedros ths Kyproy Glaykos Klhridhs epibebaiwse oti to antiaeroporiko pyrayliko systhma S-300 qa paradoqei argotera ayto to mhna, an den shmeiwqei proodos gia thn apostratiwtikopoihsh toy nhsioy.\nSe omilia poy ekane se sygkentrwsh opadwn toy xqes, o Kyprios proedros epanelabe oti o monos tropos gia na apotrapei h egkatastash twn pyraylwn qa einai na yparjei symfwnia, metajy twn dyo koinothtwn gia plhrh apostratiwtikopoihsh. O Kyprios proedros kai oi symboyloi toy exoyn dexqei tis teleytaies ebdomades megales pieseis gia to qema twn S-300. Oi antipaloi toy Klhridh ton kathgoroyn gia anapofasistikothta, enw sthn egkatastash twn pyraylwn sthn Krhth antidroyn entona oi HPA, h Bretania kai alles eyrwpaikes xwres\nSto metajy, thn antiqesh toy sthn prooptikh egkatastashs twn S-300 sthn Krhth epanelabe to Sabbatokyriako to toyrkiko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, to opoio sxoliazontas tis dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Amynas ths Elladas, Akh Tsoxatzopoyloy, poy anaferqhke se sxedio prostateytikhs kalychs toy ellhnikoy enaerioy xwroy kai ths perioxhs FIR Aqhnwn apo pyrayloys mikroy kai mesaioy belhnekoys, tis qewrhse "proklhtikes kai apeilhtikes".\nH anakoinwsh toy toyrkikoy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn epixeirhse na syndesei tis dhlwseis Tsoxatzopoyloy me to qema twn S-300. "An oi dhlwseis aposkopoyn sth diastreblwsh toy qematos twn S-300, ypenqymizoyme oti h monh epilogh poy isxyei einai h akyrwsh ths paqaccek_ar", tonizetai sthn anakoinwsh.\nH Agkyra qewrei oti h ypoqesh ths kalychs toy ellhnikoy enaerioy xwroy kai toy FIR Aqhnwn me antiaeroporika pyraylika systhmata epibebaiwnei to orama ths Elladas gia th metatroph toy Aigaioy se ellhnikh qalassa kai thn kathgorei oti ekmetalleyetai tis texnikes eyqynes poy exei gia to FIR gia na tis paroysiasei ws kyriarxika dikaiwmata. Qewrei epishs oti oi dhlwseis toy Ellhna ypoyrgoy erxontai se antiqesh me th symfwnia ths Madriths, sxoliase h radiofwnikh yphresia toy BBC.\nOi ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs apofasisan shmera na zhthsoyn h dikh toy hgeth twn Koyrdwn aytonomistwn AMpntoylax Otzalan na pragmatopoihqei se dieqnes dikasthrio ypo thn aigida toy Symboylioy ths Eyrwphs. O Italos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Lamperto Ntini dhlwse oti oi sxetikes diaboyleyseis exoyn dromologhqei ston paneyrwpaiko organismo, o opoios ypologizei thn Toyrkia ws melos toy, prokeimenoy na diasfalistei "ean einai dynaton mia ameroplhpth dikh". Opws eipe, gia na pragmatopoihqei h dikh qa prepei na ekplhrwqoyn treis proypoqeseis, oi opoies einai: h symfwnia twn empeirognwmonwn oti mia tetoia dikh einai piqanh nomika, h symfwnia mias xwras-meloys gia th diejagwgh ths dikhs sto edafos ths kai h sygkataqesh ths Toyrkias.\nEkproswpos ths proedrias ths Aystrias sthn E.E. yposthrije oti sthn protash na dikastei o k.Otzalan "se eyrwpaiko h dieqnes dikasthrio" symfwnhsan oles oi xwres ths E.E.\nO k.Ntini anefere oti se periptwsh poy h protash den pragmatopoihqei, to pio piqano apotelesma einai na apelaqei o Otzalan, afoy h eisodos toy sthn Italia htan paranomh.\nO hgeths toy RKK dhlwse sto germaniko thleoptiko staqmo ZDF oti einai etoimos na emfanistei se dieqnes dikasthrio, prosqetontas oti to dikasthrio qa krinei ean to RKK h h toyrkikh kybernhsh eyqynontai gia to qanato xiliadwn anqrwpwn kata th diarkeia toy enoploy agwna twn Koyrdwn gia anejarthsia. E.R.\nH koinoboyleytikh epitroph ths Doyma ejetazontas thn protash gia parapomph se dikh toy Rwsoy proedroy Mporis Gieltsin, ekane dekth shmera kai thn tetarth kathgoria eis baros toy gia "katastrofh twn enoplwn dynamewn" ths xwras, opws anakoinwse o epikefalhs ths epitrophs Bantim Filimonof.\nOi treis apo tis pente synolika kathgories enantion toy oi opoies aforoyn ston polemo me thn Tsetsenia, thn enoplh epiqesh sthn koinoboyleytikh ejegersh toy 1993 kai sth dialysh ths Sobietikhs Enwshs to 1991, exoyn hdh ginei dektes apo ton Ioynio, otan jekinhse h diadikasia.\nH pempth kathgoria poy ekkremei anaferetai sth "genoktonia kata toy rwsikoy laoy" kai anamenetai oti qa ejetastei epishs apo thn epitroph. Symfwna me th rwsikh nomoqesia toy 1993, o proedros lpoqe_ na dikastei mono gia "esxath prodosia kai sobara egklhmata".\nH ypoqesh, h opoia einai makra kai periplokh, exei liges piqanothtes na fqasei sto dikasthrio, kaqws gia thn apopomph toy Mporis Gieltsin prepei na ejasfalistoyn ta dyo trita ths Doyma kai sth synexeia to anwtato dikasthrio na apofasisei oti yparxei kat' arxhn ypoqesh, kai to syntagmatiko dikasthrio oti h diadikasia kineitai sta plaisia toy syntagmatos.\nSth synexeia apaitoyntai ta dyo trita toy Omospondiakoy Symboylioy, ths rwsikhs anw boylhs prokeimenoy na apomakrynqei o Rwsos proedros. Politikoi parathrhtes sth rwsikh prwteyoysa ektimoyn oti fainetai apiqano na sygkentrwqoyn ta dyo trita ths pleiochfias kai twn dyo rwsikwn koinoboyliwn yper ths apopomphs toy proedroy, toylaxiston pros to paron. E.R.\nMeta tis synomilies me thn prwhn prwqypoyrgo ths Toyrkias Tansoy Tsiler, oi opoies dihrkesan mia wra, o entolodoxos prwqypoyrgos ths xwras Mpoylent Etzebit dhlwse se synenteyjh typoy oti h epikefalhs toy Orqoy Dromoy "den fainetai enqoysiasmenh me thn idea" mias kybernhshs synaspismoy sthn opoia qa symmetexei o antipalos ths Mesoyt Gilmaz.\nWstoso, epeshmane oti "den aperrice kathgorhmatika thn piqanothta" kai etsi o idios "elpizei akoma s' ayth".\nO k.Gilmaz apo thn pleyra toy exei diabebaiwsei ton entolodoxo prwqypoyrgo gia thn yposthrijh toy sthn kybernhsh synaspismoy anamesa sta tria kommata, ths Dhmokratikhs Aristeras, toy Orqoy Dromoy kai ths Mhteras Patridas, para tis epifylajeis ths k.Tsiler.\nH prwhn prwqypoyrgos dhlwse meta tis synomilies ths me ton k.Etzebit oti "den epiqymoyme na eimaste o mikros etairos se mia nea kybernhsh paromoia me ayth poy anatraphke apo to koinoboylio", anaferomenh sthn katachfish apo thn toyrkikh Boylh ths kybernhshs Gilmaz, stis 25 Noembrioy. Opws prosqese "protima dieyrymenh kybernhsh me th symmetoxh olwn twn kommatwn poy antiproswpeyontai sto koinoboylio".\nMia tetoia kybernhsh perilambanei to islamistiko komma ths Areths, kinhsh sthn opoia antitiqetai o stratos.\nH k.Tsiler eixe sxhmatisei kybernhsh synaspismoy me toys islamistes to 1996, h opoia efere sthn ejoysia ton islamisth prwqypoyrgo Netsmetin Ermpakan. E.R.\nH diapragmateytikh omada twn Albanwn toy Kossyfopedioy aperrice ej oloklhroy to sxedio toy Amerikanoy mesolabhth Kristofer Xil gia thn ejeyresh lyshs sto problhma toy Kossyfopedioy.\nO epikefalhs ths diapragmateytikhs omadas twn Albanwn Fexmi Acj\_mi anefere oti to neo sxedio toy Amerikanoy mesolabhth aporriptetai apo thn albanikh pleyra, dioti periexei arketa stoixeia, ta opoia feroyn thn albanikh pleyra se meionektikh qesh se sxesh me th serbikh.\nO Agkani epeshmane oti to neo sxedio toy Kristofer Xil periexei arketa omoia stoixeia me ayto ths serbikhs pleyras poy paroysiase prosfata o proedros ths Serbias Milan Miloytinobits.\nProsqese akomh oti h diapragmateytikh omada twn Albanwn toy Kossyfopedioy qa epimelhqei diko ths sxedio gia thn ejeyresh lyshs sto problhma ths perioxhs kai qa to paroysiasei se oles tis endiaferomenes pleyres.\nDiplwmatikoi kykloi sth gioygkoslabikh prwteyoysa aneferan oti synebhse ayto to opoio foboyntan kai toyto giati h aporrich toy sxedioy toy Amerikanoy mesolabhth apo thn albanikh pleyra akoloyqhse ws antidrash gia to sxedio ths serbikhs pleyras poy paroysiasthke prosfata.\nOi idioi kykloi symplhrwnan oti eixan epishmanei pws einai epikindyno h kaqe pleyra na paroysiasei to diko ths sxedio, opws ekane h serbikh kai h problech toys ayth apodeixqhke ws akribhs.\nH aporrich toy neoy sxedioy toy Amerikanoy mesolabhth apo thn albanikh pleyra periplekei akomh perissotero thn olh katastash sthn perioxh kai h ejeyresh lyshs mesw ths diplwmatikhs odoy th stigmh ayth fantazei poly dyskolh. Ypenqymizetai oti xqes h enoplh organwsh twn Albanwn ths perioxhs, Apeleyqerwtikos Stratos toy Kossyfopedioy gnwstopoihse oti den prokeitai na apodexqei kanena sxedio, to opoio den qa ejasfalizei anejarthsia stoys Albanoys toy Kossyfopedioy.\nMeta apo tis diabebaiwseis ths eirhneytikhs dynamhs toy OHE UNPREDEP oti den yparxei stratiwtikh kinhtikothta sta gioygkoslabo - skopiana synora, to ypoyrgeio Amynas ths PGDM dieceyse dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "Ntnebnik" symfwna me to opoio h egkatastash serbikwn strateymatwn sta synora me ta Skopia ofeiletai sthn egkatastash twn dynamewn taxeias epembashs toy NATO sto edafos ths PGDM. Th diaceysh toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas metedwse o kratikos radiofwnikos staqmos twn Skopiwn, opws epishs kai th diaceysh toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn ths PGDM poy afora dhmosieyma ths idias efhmeridas symfwna me to opoio to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn aphyqyne diabhma diamartyrias sto Beligradi gia thn egkatastash dynamewn toy gioygkoslabikoy stratoy sta synora.\nSto metajy shmera anaggelqhkan dwdeka pthseis aeroskafwn sto aerodromio Petrobats konta sta Skopia kai efqasan tessera aeroskafh typoy Hercules kai argotera aeroskafh typoy "Antonof" ta opoia meteferan oplites, ena meros elikopterwn kai polemiko yliko.\nStis Bryjelles brisketai apo to prwi o prwqypoyrgos ths PGDM, Lioyptso Gkeorgkiefski synodeyomenos apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, Aleksantar Ntimitrof kai kata th diarkeia ths hmeras anamenetai na sumamtghe_ me ton geniko grammatea toy NATO, Xabie Solana.\nH nea ayth synanthsh Gkeorgkiefski-Solana, h opoia einai h deyterh poy pragmatopoieitai sto diasthma twn deka teleytaiwn hmerwn, apodeiknyei, symfwna me ta sxolia twn meswn enhmerwshs sta Skopia, oti to NATO ekdhlwnei entono endiaferon gia thn PGDM.\nH kratikh thleorash twn Skopiwn, se sxolio poy metedwse me aformh th synanthsh toy neoy prwqypoyrgoy me ton geniko grammatea toy NATO, yposthrije oti exei dhmioyrghqei ena qetiko klima stis sxeseis ths xwras me th symmaxia, to opoio "epitrepei thn enarjh diplwmatikhs ekstrateias gia thn ylopoihsh twn filodojiwn kai twn stoxwn ths xwras, poy aposkopoyn sthn monimh entajh sth Boreioatlantikh Symmaxia".\nSymfwna me to sxolio, h nea kybernhsh toy kentrodejioy synaspismoy toy Lioyptso Gkeorgkiefski, apo th stigmh poy edwse to "prasino fws" gia thn egkatastash ths dynamhs taxeias epembashs, den krybei thn aisiodojia ths oti h nea katastash poy exei diamorfwqei stis sxeseis me to NATO, exei hdh enisxysei shmantika th diapragmateytikh qesh ths xwras gia entajh sth symmaxia. 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url: =Μήνυμα 2371-2400 από 2471.\nsou iposxomai oti tha steilo to site sou se osous perissoterous mporo.\nNai, nai diethni alisida!!!\n(Zilepsa para poli gia tin Patagonia xixixi!!!)\nφιλαρακο να εισαι παντα καλα, καλη δυναμη στο μακρυ δρομο σου, σου ευχομαι τα καλυτερα.\nΔημήτρη μου, γειά σου, είμαι η Ανθή και ελπίζω να σε βρίσκω γερό και δυνατό. Είχα μέρες να επισκεφθώ το ημερολόγιό σου - για λόγους ανάξιους αναφοράς - και σήμερα που επιτέλους διάβασα τα νέα σου ειλικρινά συγκλονίστηκα. Συγχαρητήρια για τις επιτυχίες σου και τις αντοχές σου!!! Το νόημα του ταξιδιού σου φαίνεται τελικά να πραγματώνεται. Οι Έλληνες μπορούν να αποτελούν μία οικογένεια σε ολόκληρο τον κόσμο. Τα τοπία και οι εντυπώσεις συναρπαστικές (σχεδόν εξωπραγματικές - στο πλαίσιο της δικής μας καθημερινής πραγματικότητας). Έχεις κάθε ευχή και την αγάπη μου. Α.\nErjome se epafi mazi su epidi diavasa stin efimerida Tiempo Sur guia sena. Elpizo na biskese afti ti stigmi edo sto Rio Gallegos opu meno edo kai 12 jronia. To kinito mu tilefono ine 154.... Poli za izela na se gnoriso.Iparjun polloi ellines edo an kai den xeroun ti glosa ejun endiaferon guia tis rizes tus. Guia su kai kali antamosi. Dimitra.\ndimitrsis: no dejes de ir a puerto san julian y visitar la comunaidad griega de san julian provincia de santa cruz\nHow are you??? My name's Dani, I'm from Cordoba, and I would love to tell you the story of my grandparents, who were born in Kalamata and Crete, Atanasio Blanas and Antonia Tzouanakis. They met here and got married here, but it's an amaizing story.\nBesides, ... i have serious plans to move there when I finish my carrer.\nWhat else??? Well,,, I have a Greek dance group, we're 5 members, and we love it.\nI love Greece, the Greek culture. I went to Greece 7 or 8 years ago. I felt in love with Greece\nI would to recieve you when you come to Cordoba. Send me an email to stay in contact..!!!\nstin Ellada exei kausona kai kaigetai to pelekoudi.\nesi opos blepo eisai se pio drosera meri.\nnai! thelo synenteuxi alla pos tha ginei kati tetoio? pes mouuuuuuuu!\nHola Dimitri: no hablo ni ingles ni griego pero en Viña del Mar y Valparaíso, Chile, habemos algunos descendientes de griego. sería un gusto recibirte, cariños Cate\nΓειά σου Δημήτρη μου,\nΨάχνω στο Χάρτη για να εντοπίσω τις πόλεις που επισκέφτεσαι. Δεν είναι δυνατόν να είσαι τόόόόόσο μακριά!!!!!!\nΣτο Φωτοτυπάδικό μου υπάρχει μια καινούρια αφίσα με τη φωτογραφία σου, κάποια βιογραφικά στοιχεία και μια πρόσκληση στον κόσμο να επισκεφτεί την ιστοσελίδα σου.\nΕσύ συνέχισε το ταξίδι σου, ανυπομονώ να υπογραμμίσω κι άλλες πόλεις στον Παγκόσμιο Άτλαντά μου!\nΚαλημέρα, με συγκίνησε πάρα πολύ το αρθρο για τον Έλληνα στην Γη του Πυρός και θα ήθελα να του στείλω μία ελληνική σημαία.\nΘεωρώ την προσπάθειά σας αξιόλογη και σας εύχομαι πάντα επιτυχίες.\nΤο ταξίδι σου γίνεται κάθε μέρα και πιο συναρπαστικό. Το ίδιο και τα κείμενά σου. Αυτο το ντόμινο μεταξύ Ελλήνων ανά τη Γη κάνει τη μικρή μας χώρα να δείχνει μεγαλύτερη και τον κόσμο να φαντάζει ολοένα και πιο μικρός... Συνέχισε το υπέροχο ταξίδι σου! Σε απολαμβάνουμε\nI will be happy to help you and to meet you\nMa ti katapliktikes stigmes pou zeis!!!\nEinai polu OUAOU ta topia.\nDimitri geia sou\npersi tetoio kairo imouna kai ego stin Notia Ameriki. Xekinisa kai ego ena "gyro tou kosmou". Eleipsa gia sxedon ena xrono kai telika taxidepsa apo ti gi tou pyros eos ta synora ton HPA me ton Kanada.\nExo diaforous filous se diafora meri, kapoioi Ellines kai polloi oxi.\nMporo na se fero se epafi me kosmo sti Xili, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Mexico, kai USA.\nZilevo. Tha ithela na imouna kai pali ekei ...\nΣε παρακολουθώ πολύ συχνά και μ αρέσουν πολύ αυτά που γράφεις. Μάλιστα, μου ανοίγεις την όρεξη.\nXάρηκα που διάβασα την ανταπόκρισή σου στο ΑΠΕ για το ελληνικό φωτοτυπάδικο στην άκρη της Χιλής.Πολύ καλό κείμενο. Μπράβο.\nΠολλά φιλιά και καλά ταξίδια\nDimitri yia sou\nDiabasa apo tin efimerida ethnikos kirikas to taxidi sou stin Argentini kai Xili.\nSan neos naytikos gnorisa stin poli Cocimbo ligous Ellines,sto valparasio kai sto San diago briskonte arketoi Ellenes.\nStin Argentini eine arketoi Ellenes kai malista poloi eine meloi tou pogosmiou Ellinismou(to symboulio).\nDen gnorizo pou vriskestse tora,alla an eise sto Buenos Aires kane mia episkepsi sto idryma theodosios Maragos me director kapion constantino yordanes,to telephono 5411-4381-0028.\nAn exis xrono min aphines exo thin Venezouela kai yin mikri poli Valencia.\nTha perimeno na diavaso ta neotera.\nEn Puerto Deseado, provincia de Santa Cruz, 700 kilσmetros al norte de Rνo Gallegos -entre Puerto San Juliαn y Caleta Olivia- hay un griego, Stratos Laskaris, que ha sido marino durante muchos aρos, viajσ pςr todo el mundo y ahora tiene una rotiserνa -casa de comidas- llamada El Griego y estα a punto de inaugurar otra llamada LA TABERNA DEL GRIEGO. Si quieres llamarlo por telιfono es 0297.... Si vienes a Puerto Deseado te espero en mi programa de radio en FM DESIRE.\nLa web de mi newspaper es www.elordendeseado.com.ar\nΗ εκ Παταγωνίας διαπίστωση ότι(...) τελικά, ο κόσμος είναι μικρός και οι έλληνες τον κάνουν να μοιάζει με μια οικογένεια (...) νομίζω ότι δικαιώνει απόλυτα τον κόπο σου και τις προσπάθειές σου. Συνέχισε ακάθεκτος. Και είσαι ακόμα στην αρχή.-\nMe gustaria saber donde te encuentras en estos dias, trabajo en una radio y me gustaria hacerte una nota telefonica, comentando tu viaje por demas interesante.\nErjome se epafi mazi su epidi diavasa stin efimerida Tiempo Sur guia sena. Elpizo na biskese afti ti stigmi edo sto Rio Gallegos opu meno edo kai 12 jronia. To kinito mu tilefono ine 154... i tis dulias mu 42..... Poli za izela na se gnoriso.Iparjun polloi ellines edo an kai den xeroun ti glosa ejun endiaferon guia tis rizes tus. Guia su kai kali antamosi. Dimitra.\nGODIMITRIS. Dimitra tha epikinoniso mazi sou.\nEDW, STO INTERNET CAFE POU XIRISIMOPIO GIA NA BALW TA KIMENA TWN ISPANIKWN, PIA ME XEROUNE OLOI. ME TO POU BENW OLI GIRIZOUN K ME KOITANE!!!\nDEN XEROUNE PIOS EIMAI ALLA KSEROUNE OTI EIMAI "ENAS KSENOS POU ERXETAI KATHE MERA, BLEPEI KATI SELIDES STO DIKTIO K META ... KLAIEI..."\nPOU NA KSEROUNE OI ANTHROPOI...OREA POU EINAI!!!\nPERASA APO TO SPITI SOU... MAS EXEIS LIPSEI RE FILE. PARA POLI. ALA MHN GIRISEIS ... AKOMA!!\nDeseo comunicarle a Dimitris que en Puerto Deseado, en la provincia de Santa Cruz, Argentina, encontrarα al menos un griego y varios descendientes de griegos. Este hombre, de apellido Laskaris, tiene una rotiseria EL GRIEGO y esta pronto a inaugurar LA TABERNA DEL GRIEGO.\nTambien hay descendientes directos de la familia Argiropulos y Georgacopulos.\nTelefono del Sr. Laskaris 0297-...\nAgapite Dimitri gia sou.\nEMATHA GIA SENA KAI TO ONEIROSOU SIMERA APO TIN EFIMERIDA KAI ENTHOUSIASTIKA GIA TO KOURAGIO SOU NA APLOSIS TA PANIASOU NA BRIS OLUS TOUS ELLINES H OSOUS MPORESIS STA PERANTA TIS OUKOUMENIS !!!!!!!!!!!\nEPIASA NA DIABAZO KAI NOMIZO OTI SE KSERO XRONIA GIA PANTA TI EINAI AUTO EXW KAI EGO TO IDIO MERAKI TOULAXISTO STO MIALO MOU !!!!!!!!!\nKATAGOME APO TIN LIMNO KAI OTAN DIABASA GIA TON KO STELIO TON TENEDIO EPIASA NA KLEO\nKAI TORA POU SOU GRAFW KLAIO ........EINAI KAI AUTO ELLINIKO.\nDIMITRI MOLIS GIRISA APO TIN AGIA PETROUPOLI OPU H KOROULA MOU SPOUDAZI ROSSIKA STO PANEPISTIMIO KAIMOLIS PATISA TO PODIMOU STO AERODROMIO ROTOUSA AN YPARXOUN ELLINES !!!!!!!!!!!\nTRELA DIMITRIMOU TRELLAAAAAA...\nDIMITRI DEN SE GNORIZW ALLA SE KSERO XRONIA .\nKAI POU ISE OTAN THA ERTHIS STA MERIMAS ELLA NA TA POUME...\nKALA TAXIDIA KAI I PANAGIA MAZISOU\nADALFIKA THANASIS APO TIN LIMNO\nyou are invited at your borne country Utrecht. Hope to see you best-man\nRichard & Evelien\ngia des pou se protinoun na se episkeftei kosmos!\nA, vre ,,,enas einai o Evros\nΜου έχει γίνει πλέον συνήθεια στο τέλος της ημέρας να χαλαρώνω διαβάζοντας τις αφηγήσεις σου. Έτσι, ταξιδεύω και εγώ μαζί σου και ζω τον παλμό αυτής της λαμπρής ομογένειας που μας μεταφέρεις από τα πέρατα του κόσμου. Συνέχισε ακάθεκτος αυτή την ανεκτίμητη εμπειρία. Εμείς, θα σε περιμένουμε με ανυπομονησία στη Μαδρίτη και για άλλες εκπλήξεις με ελληνολάτρεις. Το οδοιπορικό σου έχει ήδη συμπεριληφθεί και στο δελτίο που εκδίδει το Γραφείο μας. Σε ευχαριστώ θερμά για τις συγκινήσεις που μας προσφέρεις, μεταφέροντας μας από τα πέρατα της γης τον παλμό της ελληνικής ομογένειας\nΚαλό κουράγιο y Hasta la vista\nvrika ton kurio Manoli Papadimitropoulo apo ta Vrilisia.\nTha episkefti to site sou, tha diavasei tin istoria, tha epikoinonisei me tous sigenis tou.\nSunexise tin uperoxh douleia sou.\nΓεια Κυριε Διμιτρι...\nΤο προτο πως σας ζειτο συχνομη γεια την ορθογραφια, για περασανε πολλα χρονια που δε μιλαμε τα Ελλινηκα. ειμαι απο το χωριο Νεοχοριον Μεσσινιας, εφιγα απο την πατριδα το 1956 γεια καμια καλη τιχη για Αργεντινα. Διαβαζο ολλα για το ταξειδι που κανετε, και μαθενουμε πως ειπαρχου Ελλινες σε ολο τον κοσμο. ειναι κριμα που δε περασατε απο Μενδοζα Αργεντινα, ειμαστε κε λιγο ελλινες εδω.\nΣιεχειζο διαβαζωντας γεια ολα που γραφετε. Σας εφχαριστω.\nGODIMITRIS: k. Xristo eida sto xarti poy einai i mentosa. O monos tropos na ertho einai me leoforio apo to santiago tis xilis. Sto santiago tha ime se peripoy 2,5 mines. Desmevome oti tha ertho na sas do.\nΜέσω του mirc κανάλια συζητήσεων ανακάλυψα ένα παιδί απο το μεξικό που έψαχνε τις ρίζες του. Ο προπάπους του πήγε το 1860 από το Αντάρτικον Φλώρινας στο μεξικό, ο παππούς του λεγόταν lykwn holouphas. Αυτό το έμαθε φέτος από τα γράμματα του προπάπου του που του έδωσε ο θείος του. Δεν ξέρει τίποτα από Ελληνικά κτλπ. Θέλει πάρα πολύ να έρθει σε επαφή με Έλληνες, σε παρακαλώ αν μπορείς βρές τον και βοηθησέ τον. Μέσα στα κανάλι μας στο mirc του μαθαίνουμε Ελληνικά και Ελληνική ιστορία.Στείλε μου e-mail αν σε ενδιαφέρει και αν θα περάσεις από το μεξικό να σου δώσω περισσότερα στοιχεία.\nGODIMITRIS. MEXICO THA IME PROTA O THEOS TON NOEMVRIO. SAFOS ME ENDIAFERI.BE IN CONTACT.


url: =Tellas Times se Internet & Statheri tilephonia [Αρχείο] - ADSLgr.com Community Forum\nADSLgr.com Community Forum > Ευρυζωνικές συνδέσεις και τεχνολογία > Σταθερή & Κινητή Τηλεφωνία > Tellas Times se Internet & Statheri tilephonia\nΕπιστροφή στο Forum : Tellas Times se Internet & Statheri tilephonia\nGia dite to parakatw url ... einai scanarimenes selides kai exi TIMES gia internet kathos kai statheri tilephonia gia tin Tellas ......\nPoli kales tis times tis ekopsa gia internet ama einai gia flat-rate ........\nGia osous bariounte na tis blepoun mia mia mporoun na d/l to parakatw zip arxio kai na tis doun oles mazi sto pc tous\nPedia oi times pou anaferonte sta filadia tis TELLAS einai endiktikes times anaforas kai malon tha alaksoun elpizw oxi poli. Simera mirastikan ta parapanw filadia se ergazomenous tis DEH ..... opios exi gnosto ston DEH as ton rotisi gia tixon parapano dieukrinisis.\nGia dite to parakatw url ... einai scanarimenes selides kai exi TIMES gia flat-rate internet kathos kai statheri tilephonia gia tin Tellas ......\nTsouxteres tis ekopsa gia internet ........\nPantos nai epitelous blepoume TIMES apo kapion ...... kai den einai protaprilia.\nMia xara einai oi times an einai autes. To stay-on fantazomai oti einai flat. Opote 20-25 E gia ISDN always - on einai mia xara.\nTora pou to ksanablepo to TellasWeb stay-on den mporei na einai flat-rate, afou oi syndromes tou Tellas-Web einai paraplhsies (pou ypotheto oti einai me xronoxreosh). Poly mperdema. Afou dieureuse kati tetoio h Tellas prepei taxista na ksekatharisei th katastash.\nAn einai flat einai miaaaaaaaaaa xara....Ela pou den tis kovo gia flat omos 0_o\nApo ti exi akousti apo proigoumena posts i DEH tha dosi mono flat rate internet kai oxi EPAK episis panw panw prosexte lei STAY ON ara malon einai flat rate internet :P kai ontos einai kales times ...... tora ida pos einai triminis/eksaminis/xronou diarkias.\nEmpire PARE PHONE GIA SINEUNTEKSI TIN TELLAS kai ase tin forthnet edw einai to zoumiiiiiiiiiii.\nKales einai san times alla to na xairomaste gia always-on isdn to 8ewrw oligon ksepesmo se sxesh me oti isxyei sthn Eurwph!Vasika me evale se ypopsies to "Ekapideysh Pwlhsewn" ston titol ths selidas!Kata poso dhladh einai times gia to koino h gia dikh tous ekpaideysh!Anyway!Kalh prwtoxronia se olous kai elpizw syntoma na doume dsl kai sta spitia mas! :)\nApo ti akoume i DEH tha dosi mono flat rate internet kai oxi EPAK episis panw panw lei STAY ON ara malon einai flat rate internet :P kai ontos einai kales times ...... tora ida pos einai triminis diarkias.\nPoia einai h diafora omos tou TellasWeb kai tou TellasWeb Stay-on?\nKai ti rolo exoun oi extra epiloges tou Stay-on (antivirus, extra space, virtual disk, extra e-mail)?\nSygnomh, to oti oi times tou TellasWeb kai oi times tou stay on (oi mhniaies) einai idies den sas provlhmatizei?...\nEgo eida se mia allh pic oti prosferei kai net xoris ISP xreosh alla me astikh xreosh thlefonoy (=ouch)\nEgo nomizo oti to StayOn einai kati san thn OTEnet aperioristou xronou, dhladh plhroneis to pagio kai mpeneis net (me epak, opos leei se kapia allh selida xrhsimopoieis ena noumero 1735 + kati allo...)\nEsi 2.5 eurolepta to lepto ..... se sxesi me EPAK einai ftinotero i akribotero as kani kapios tis praksis eheheheh.\nEinai astikh xreosh. 4 fores akribotero apo to EPAK (0800-2200). Alla periexei kai syndromh ISP, opote einai kalytero apo Netcartes kai tetoia.\nPoia einai h OTENET aperioristou xronou kai poia h periorismenou?\nXmm me vash oti mia ISDN 64 sindromh kanei peripou ~27 euro to mhna...vgenei PANAKRIVA, mias kai to kostos ths sindromhs meso ths astikhs xreoshs 8a to bgaloun aftoi se 1 vdomada\nTelos panton, oi OTEnet sindeseis diakrinontai se 3mhnes, 6mhnes, 12mhnes, (nomizo exoun kai 24mhnes), kai aoristou\nEkei blepeis (sto * ) poia einai h diafora ths aoristou me tis kanonikes (exo aoristou o malakas kai stis aoristou den vgazoun KAMIA prosfora POTE)\nKrima, giati kai to StayON idia malakia mou fenetai... :(\nOntos einai 2.5 eurolepta to lepto mazi omws kai tin xreosi tou ISP ..... isos kai na simferni. Ama pas OTENET mporis na paris 3//6/12 mini sindromi diladi periorismenou xronou alla kai aperioristou xronou diladi kathe 2 mino sou erxete na plerosis tin sindromi meso tou logariasmou tou OTE .... etsi einai aperioristou xronou :) Ama pas stin otenet kai dis tis xreosis tha to diabasis.\ndeite ta post pros to kato meros ths selidas\nPhra thlefono sthn Tellas:\nMilhsa me kapion k. Giannh Papadopoulo *nomizo* kai mou eipe ta ekshs:\nTa timologia pou eidame einai KAPOIA apo ta timologia pou 8a prosferontai\nTha yparksei yphresia flat rate apo thn 1h mera\nTha yparksei yphresia DSL apo thn 1h hmera\nETA: February 3 2003\nAs elpiso na elege alh8eia...Fainotan arketa ypef8ynos!\nEh ntaksi ena post enos pediou einai pou lei ta parakatw\n"Χαίρετε!Καλές Γιορτές και καλή Χρονιά κατ’αρχας.¨Ηθελα να σας πω ότι μόλις είδα τις φωτογραφίες που είχε link ο χρήστης Giannis,από περιέργεια και μόνο τηλεφώνησα σε έναν γνωστό μου χρησιμοποιώντας τον κωδικο 1738 της Tellas.Και προς μεγάλη μου έκπληξη έπιασε κανονικα!!!(όσες φορές το είχα δοκιμάσει με άλλες εταιρίες που δεν ήμουν εγγεγραμένος φυσικά δε λειτουργούσε κανονικα)Τώρα χρησιμοποιούμε Forthnet και είμαστε αρκετά ευχαριστημένοι (εγώ+η οικογένειά μου γιατι είμαι και 15χρονών ) το μόνο πρόβλημα είναι η ποιότητα ήχου.Τέλως πάντων αυτό ήταν μια παρένθεση.Όταν προσπάθησα να ξανατηλεφωνήσω ‘’βγήκε” μια «κυρία» και μου είπε πως για να συνεχίσω πρέπει να έχω ενεργοποιημένη την υπηρεσία κλπ. Πήρα τηλ. στο κέντρο πληροφοριών της Tellas στο 13800 για περισσότερες πληροφορίες (είχε μαγνητοσκοπημένες πληροφορίες) 1*για άμεση ενεργοποίηση των υπηρεσιών 2*για πληροφορίες για τις υπηρεσίες της Tellas 3*(δε θυμάμαι) και 4* «Εάν είστε υπάλληλος της δεη» (!!!!!!)\nΑφού ενημερώθηκα για τις υπηρεσίες αποφάσισα να μιλήσω με κάποιον υπάλληλο,ο οποίος φαίνεται πως τα έχασε γιατί άρχισε να με ρωτάει διάφορα με σχεδόν τρεμάμενη φωνή(δεν υπερβάλω) Με ρωτησε κατ’αρχάς αν είμαι υπάλληλος της δεη και όταν του απάντησα όχι με ρώτησε πως ξέρω για την Tellas. Του απάντησα, απλά, μέσω internet. Μετά άρχισα να με ρωτάει από πού καλώ,πως με λένε κλπ και τον συγκράτησα λεγοντάς του ότι απλά μια ερώτηση θέλω να κάνω!Η αλήθεια ήταν πως δεν ήταν και πολύ ενημερωμένος γιατί δεν ήξερε να μου εξηγήσει ούτε καν τα απλά πράγματα που διάβασα από το site σας, αλλά δεν το κατηγορώ το παιδί αφού όπως μου είπε δεν τους έχουν ενημερώσει καν για τις τιμές. Μου ανέφερε απλά (επαναλαμβάνοντας πολλές φορές το παράδειγμα) ότι η υπηρεσία Tellas web stay on, θα βγαίνει 10% πιο φθηνά, θα έρχεται με δίμηνο λογαριασμό και μου είπε πολλές φορές ότι δεν είναι σαν τις άλλες εταιρείες που αγοράζεις ένα cd και είσαι υποχρεωμένος να χρησιμοποιείς την ίδια σύνδεση μέχρι να τελειώσει,αφού με την Tellas μπορείς να απενεργοποιήσεις την υπηρεσία όποτε θες εσύ(ξέρω ότι τα λέω κάπως μπερδεμένα, αλλά έτσι ακριβώς μου τα είπε).Το χειρότερο όμως είναι πως έτσι όπως μου τα εξηγήσε, κατάλαβα πως δεν πρόκειται να υπάρξει(τουλάχιστον σύντομα) κάποια υπηρεσία flatrate αλλά θα λειτουργεί ως απλός provider!Τέλως πάντων ελπίζω να μην ήξερε και ο ίδιος σωστά γιατί αλλιώς καήκαμε (δηλαδή θα εξακολουθούμε να καιγόμαστε από τον οτε) Συγγνώμη για το μέγεθος του μηνύματος,πάντως σκέφτηκα πως θα ήταν ενδιαφέρουσα η ιστορία που εξελίχθηκε μόλις πριν από λίγο. Πάντως δεν χάνει κανείς να δοκιμάσει όσα και εγώ.Οι αριθμοί-κλειδιά είναι 1738 και 13800.Αλλά με προσοχή γιατί άμα αρχίσουν να παίρνουν όλοι και να ρωτάνε θα τους πανικοβάλλουμε. Εκτός βέβαια αν είστε υπάλληλοι της δεη. Α!και να πω ότι στο τέλος ενέδωσα και τα στοιχεία μου τα πήρε. Επίθετο και τοποθεσία από την οποία καλώ.Βρε μανία!"\nSimperasma to filos einai mikros 15 etwn polla pou tou legane den ta katalabene ..... tha prepi na paroume simera i aurio OXI OLOI alla kapios pou na kseri ti na rotisi diladi o EMPIRE egw protinw kai KANIS ALLOS gia eunoitous logous (YPOMONH LIPON), na kani tis erotisis pou prepi oste na exoume mia sferiki apopsi.\nEpanalambanw gia mia akoma fora kai as ginome kourastikos epibalete Gianni na prospathisis na paris sineunteksi apo kapion armodio apo tin TELLAS.\nOpws ta legame O 15xronos filos elege pos den tha dosi flat rate esi file Sovjohn pou milises les pos tha dosi kai DSL malista ...... prepi na exoume YPEUTHINI ENHMEROSH....... EMPIRE pou eise re ? ante plakose douleia ...... kai pedia OXI ALLOI NA PERNOUN PHONE TIN TELLAS kai na mas lei ti tou eipe o kathe enas tis TELLAS ....... YPOMONH liges wres na milisi o EMPIRE kai na mas enimerosi YPEUTHINA NA KSEROUME TI MAS GINETE.\nphra ego thlefono kai pistepse me eimai poly katartismenos stis thlepikoinoniakes yphresies eksaggelies kai etairies.... To paidi pou phre prin mallon milhse me thn apeirh operator pou milhsa ego arxika, kai akouse ta magnhtofonhmena mynhmata pou perigrafoun ta timologia pou exoume dei LEAKED....O ypef8ynos omos leei alla....Einai sigoura ta logia tou! An o 15xronos filos mas milhse me thn operator kai mono me afthn kai den edeikse sovarothta stis erothseis (...pi8anon) tote logiko einai na exei alla info.\nOpos anefera afou milhsa me mia apeirh operator mou edosan kapion ypef8yno ekei o opoios mou eipe epi leksh oti:\nH Tellas vrisketai se pilotikh fash mexri tis 3 Febrouariou 2003\nH Tellas anaptyssei diktyo optikon inon opos kai sthn Italia kai to dokimazoun at the moment...Den 8eloun na kanoun launch xoris kalo diktyo.\nH Tellas 8a dosei yphresia DSL, once and for all. Dhladh den 8a treksei kai ekei kapio pilotiko alla 8a dosei DSL apo thn proth hmera leitourgias (h etsi mou eipan)\nH Tellas 8a prosferei KAI paketa flat rate Internet se 56k kai isos kai ISDN 64k ektos apo ta alla pou eidame emeis edo.\nH Tellas skopevei na kanei dynamiko launch gia na ginei o 2os thlepikoinoniakos organismos (opos egine kai h 8ygatrikh ths Wind sthn Italia)\nO kyrios gnorize peri Intraconnect kai eipe oti "teties pilotikes kinhseis einai anousies" kai oti h Tellas 8a proxorhsei se kanoniko DSL.\nTelos, eipe oti to Internet 8a prosfer8ei apo Fevrouario...Sto torino pilotiko programma den yparxei Internet.\nO kyrios htan poly synergasimos kai me kanena tropo den dokimase na apofygei tis erothseis mou h na parei ta stoixeia mou gia verification...Htan oso ey8hs mporouse na einai, mono times den mporouse na mou anakoinosei\nElpizo na sas kalypsa perissotero....Empire mhn dokimaseis synenteyksh prin ton Febrouario ka8os den 8a exoun polla na sou poun...Kalytera ligo meta to launch.\nMakari file mou makari na liksoun ta problimata mas se 1 mina na ginoume kai mis europeoi se kati :lol: ..... o Agios Basilis mas ekane kai mas ena poli megalo doro malon :P\nAs eplisoume na mas lipi8i i Tellas giati eimaste gia lipisi .\nexo mia aporia: stis 3 febrouariou tha arxisoun na parexontai ypiresies apo tin tellas mono stin athina i panelladika? Mipos exei akoustei kati gi'ayto??\nPantos mou akougetai arketa endiaferousa san kinisi. Les na perase o kairos pou emena online 15 ores gia na katebaso ena arxeio 400 mb?? :twisted:\nMallon oxi. As elpisoume toulaxiston oti den tha sou kostizei pia 3-5 Euro.\nΤα νέα είναι καλά και έχω την αίσθηση ότι ο νέος χρόνος μπαίνει με τους καλύτερους οιωνούς. Έχω κατεβάσει τις photos, δεν τις έχω δει ακόμη, αλλά συμφωνώ με το dim. Πρέπει να πάρει κάποιος εκ μέρους ας πούμε του adslgr.com που αριθμεί "τόσους" χρήστες και να ζητήσει πιο υπεύθυνη ενημέρωση...\nDen pistevo oti opoiosdhpote ki an parei thlefono, akoma kai o admin tou www.unwired.gr pou exei kati xiliades melh, 8a parei perissoteres plhrofories...AKOMA.\nPio ypef8ynh enhmerosh mporei na yparksei, telos genarh omos (ligo prin to launch) h kai kapou sto flevarh (after launch)\nPantos kalo 8a einai na eroth8ei h forthnet sxetika me tellas, na doume ti 8a poune otan akousoun oti etoimazei flat rate kai dsl...\nAllo to unwired o Manos den exi kamia sxesi me dsl alla ean eixe na se sigouros tha ton eixa pari idi tilephono :)\nEdw owms to basiko thema einai to DSL ...... den nomizw na exi na xasi tipota o Giannis me to na prospathisi na pari mia sineunteksi me tin TELLAS kai as doume ti tha poune sto finale. Toulaxiston oti mathi tha einai apo episima xili.\nEgw afto pou 8a h8ela na pw (einai to prwto mou post sto forum an kai eimai kairo edw) apo to stoma sas (kai to stoma tou ipef8inou pou eipe oti 8a dinoun DSL apo thn 1h mera) kai stou 8eou t'afti :)\nTin parapanw karta tha xrisimopiisoume gia na pernoume internet apo tin DEH malon.\nKati akoma den exw katalabei .... opios ipalilos tis DEH mpori na pari apo tora tis iperesies tis TELLAS ????? den kserw pantos kati pezete me tous ipallilous tis DEH SIGOURA .... opios exi kanenan gnosto stin DEH eas pari tilephono tin tellas na mathi to pronomia tha exi.\nKati akoma den exw katalabei .... opios ipalilos tis DEH mpori na pari apo tora tis iperesies tis TELLAS ?????\nSe kammia periptosh den tha xrhsimopoiithei to diktyo dianomh hlektrismou ths DEH gia paroxh internet.\nEsy apo pou to symperaineis auto? H Tellas den exei milisei katholou gia power network. xDSL kai kanoniko dialup (PSTN kai ISDN) tha diathetei.\nOso gia tous ypallhlous ths DEH, apo oti exo akousei apo gnosto, symmetexoun sto pilotiko kai xrhsimopoioun dialup se free noumero. Oi plhrofories autes elegxontai fysika.\nEgrapsa malon i den egrapsa ? etsi diabasa se allo forum etsi sas to metafero gia enimerosi kai ean den xrisimopiithi to idi iparxon diktio tis DEH ti tha xrisimopiithi ????\nOpos anefera kai sto reply mou, den prosferetai Internet gia kanenan afth th stigmh sto pilotiko (dia stomatos toy ypef8ynou). Omos, ypo8eto oti oi ypallhloi DEH 8a exoun epipleon ekptoseis h kati tetio..\nEgo sou leo oti oute mallon. As afhso ena 0,01% gia na mhn gino rezili. :wink:\nMporeis na doseis to link gia to forum?\nTha xrhsimopoiithei arxika to local loop tou OTE (ta apla xalkina kalodia) kai asyrmath prosbash (UMTS). Sto mellon tha xrhsimopoiithoun optikes ines. Toulaxiston auto deixnoun kai auta pou exoun diareusei (tetrapshfios kodikos) kai h istoria ths Wind sthn Italia.\nkalhspera .Oi mexri tora plhrofories poy diereysan sto adslgr,den deixnei dial up me epak(?) kai me enallaktiko forea(1738) ?Ti ginetai akribos?Gnorizei kaneis?Tha dosoyn Dsl meso Ote (PAL\nI????)'h me dikia toys kalodiosh?eyxaristo\ngiati den diavazeis ta posts mou?\nGiati den eides ekei pou elega oti "osa timologia exoume dei DEN einai ola osa 8a prosferontai'?\nKai, gia apanthsh, 8a dinei dsl kai flat rate meso dikou ths diktyou, toulaxiston kapou sto 2003...An to diktyo den einai plhres tote 8a dosei kai pali dsl /flat rate xrhsimopoiontas kodiko forea kai tis grammes tou ote...Alla genika o skopos tous einai na antagonistoun ton ote kai na mhn vasizontai se afton...\nTo local loop den einai idiokthsia tou OTE. Einai dhmosio agatho, to opoio exei pia analabei na synthrei o OTE kai na to epinoikiazei se times kostous se opoia etaireia to thelei. Den nomizo oti h Tellas, tha arxisei na skabei kai na bazei xalkina kalodia. Kati tetoio tha htan entelos koufo. Tha dosei, opos kai oi alles etaireies, xDSL pano sto yparxon local loop, kai siga siga tha prospathisei na sthsei idiokthto diktyo optikon inon.\nDen eipa to anti8eto...Vevea oi "times kostous" einai amfilegomenes mias kai den dinoun thn efkairia se alles etairies na prosferoun akrivos oti kai o ote (xmm ma giati arage h astikh stous enallaktikous na exei 8.18 drx/lepto eno 8a tous symfere na paroun kai apo kei pelates kanontas thn 7.5? Giati pernoun thn grammh me kapou 7.5...)\nApo kei kai pera, lol, den eipa pote oti 8a eskave h Tellas...Sto diktyo optikon inon anaferomoun, pou se syndyasmo me POPs gia asyrmath diktyosh kai alles patentes (UMTS, LDMS, ktl ktl ktl) ths epitrepoun na milaei gia diko ths diktyo.\nDiko ths diktyo= olo to ellhniko diktyo ths DEH, pou den einai ka8olou efkataftonhto kai mikro opos kseroume (xmm poioi den exoun revma shmera?..2-3 oikismoi panelladika?)\nTo an 8a dosei DSL meso local loop h an 8a to dosei meso tou diktyou ths, agnosto, mias kai o typos pou eixa milhsei epemene oti an den tous ikanopoiei to diktyo den ginetai launch..Ki omos, gia na einai se fash beta testing kai na anoigoun se 1 mhna akrivos, prepei na einai ok (shmeiosh: poly pi8anon na exoun ena secondary diktyo vasismeno se local loop omos, kai tis optikes na tis dosoun otan mporesoun)\nAn ginei etsi tote o filos apo Italia pou mas enhmerose oti h Wind dinei DSL mono kai mono mexri na ftasei h optikh spiti sou, opote kai to status ths yphresias afksanetai apotoma, 8a exei dikio kai malista einai arketa pi8ano na efarmostei afto kai edo...\nmolis milisa me ena ipeythino tis Tellas sto til 13800 kai mou ipe ta eksis.ta gnwsta oti diladi i etaireia ksekinaei 2 flevari,o,ti apo tin arxi tha prosferei flat-rate internet se 56k kai isws se isdn.i ipiresies aytes mou ipe tha nai diathesimes arxika se athina kai thessaloniki.otan ton rwtisa gia dsl mou ipe pws arxika toulaxiston de tha parexoun dsl afou opws ipe "den ine kai poli diadedomeni texnologia stin ellada".gia to flat-rate to leei kai sta ixografimena minimata sto 13800 apla to epivevewsa kai rwtwntas ton.telos ton rotisa an tha xrisimopoiisoun ta kalwdia tou ilektrikou gia tis ipiresies tous kai mou pe pws de tha gini kati tetoio kai oti apla tha perasoun epipleon kalwdiwsi sto iparxon diktio tis dei. ayta...\np.s. mallon arxika den tha xume dsl alla kai to flat-rate kati ine gia arxi.\nΑς ελπίσουμε τουλάχιστον να δώσουν γρήγορα flat rate isdn τουλάχιστον και όσο συντομότερα γίνεται dsl, γιατί αυτό είναι που θα κάνει τη διαφορά και αυτό είναι που μας ενδιαφέρει...\nO pateras mou einai ipallilos DEH kai mas esteilan prin\ndyo meres diafimistiko tis TELLAS kai symvolaio ean epithimoume\nna graftoume syndromites. Einai kati san proeggrafes. H ypiresia\nVOICE (oxi internet) tha arxisei na leitourgei mesa ston Flebari\nleei to diafimistiko. Episis gia Inet leei dyo paketa:\nGia ta opoia leei apla oti tha einai diathesima syntoma.\nTin proti epomeni ergasimi tha parei tilefono o pateras mou\ngia na enimerothei...\nEnoeiete pws 8a mas enhmerwseis..... :D :D :D\nMa afto einai to 8ema.....Alla lene sta fylladia kai alla ama tous pareis thl\nGenika, h ais8hsh pou apokomizoun oloi ama tous pareis thl sto dorean 5psifio 13800 einai oti 8a dosoun kai flat rate, kai net ton flevarh (kai isos kai dsl)\nAp ta xartia bgenoun alla...\nAfto pou ego ypopsiazomai einai oti den exoun vgei times gia flat rate ktl, kai etsi dinetai oti yparxei....Pou shmenei oti telos tou mhna isos dosoun ki alla..\nPS: kai go exo gnosto pou h mana tou exei ksekinhsei thn tellas...alla oti kai na tou po, den thn rotaei to %$#&^@%$&%^&\nPantws den pane 10 meres, pou edw sti Thessaloniki (Ampelokipous) h DEH eixe skapsei kai evaze kalwdia.Twra giati i DEH skavei?\nKai episis legame na steiloume ekeina ta e-mail...exoun sintaxtei?....tha ta steiloume?...Ti ginetai loipon?\nGuys! 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Αν κάποιος έχει δει κάτι διαφορετικό ας το κάνει post, να το επιβεβαιώσουμε...\nPrepei na rboume epishmes plhrofories. Apo oti fainetai h tellas einai etoimh na xtyphsei ton ote.\nAyto me thn evergy to akoume edw kai ena xrono sxedon, gnorizw atoma pou douleyoun sthn deh kai edw kai kana xrono tous ta prizoun synexeia me thn evergy, fylladia, anakoinwseis, ekpaideyseis klp me yfos oti pane na fane olo ton ote!\nMakari na einai alh8eia. Sigoura apo oti lene ta paidia edw mesa pou epikoinwnhsan me tous anthropous tis tellas/deh fainetai na einai poly katartismenoi oloi tous.\nSigoura einai ligoi (entos tis tellas/deh) omws aytoi pou xeroun akribws ti 8a kanei i tellas ton flebarh. Dhladh me poies yphresies 8a xekinhsei.\nKai kati allo auta ta fyladia pou eidame einai sxedon 90% sigouro oti einai dokimastika fyladia kai den antiprosopeyoun tis pragmatikes times. Apla einai gia ekpaideysh.\nAn rwthsete gia thn proswpikh mou apopsh 8a sas elega oti den perimenw xdsl apo tellas sthn arxh.\nPerimenw omws flat rate dialup! Kati pou einai 1 bhma prin apo to broadband.\n8a prospa8hsw na er8w se epafh KAI me thn tellas apo trith.\nKalh xronia se olous mas!\nΚαι εγώ 64Κ περιμένω flat rate... xDSL θα περιμένω να βάλω κάτι "Καλό". :)\nΝεαπολεως 1α Μαρουσι-- 15123-- ΕΛΛΑΔΑ\nphone: +30 2108113419\nfax-no: +30 2108113458\nPublic phone ths Tellas: 17300 .\nAftes einai oi plhrofories pou katafera na vro...mesa apo tis kataxorhseis ton domain tous. Pistevo einai arketes:)\nKai ego eimai ths apopshs (parola osa mou eipe o k. Papadopoulos) oti dsl ap thn arxh den mporoume na perimenoume, para mono otan apodesmeftei apo to diktyo tou OTE kai to 4psifio..Pragma pou mallon mporei na ginei mesa sto 2003 (h forhtothta ari8mou ksekinaei:D)...Alla, kai flat rate na dosoun (monoi protoi), oi 300.000++ sindromhtes ton shmerinon ISP (oxi etairies), pou 8a pane nomizete? 0_o\npantos me ayto pou diavasa sto parakato link arxizo kai niotho kapia asfalia os pros tin apotelesmatikotia mias dimosias epixirisis opos einai i DEI.\nTo PDF einai i apo tin EU Commision sxetika me tin dimiourgia tis tellas/evergy. Ayto pou me ekane na nioso kapos esioda einai oti stin nea ayti eteria katexei i WIND 50% +1 metoxi pragma pou tis dinei to pano xeri.\nBrabo Gianni ..... kai stis 8 exoume forthnet elpizw na MIN ksanalaksoun imerominia pata kai si podi giati tha katantisi koroidia. Etsi gia na min akougonte fwnes pos den eise antikimenikos ktl ktl ........ ainte na doume


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