url: =Στρατιωτική Θητεία και Ιατροί - Σελίδα 9 - Στρατός - GreekMeds Fora - Medical Students and Young Doctors - ιατρική σχολή\nΉθελα να σας ρωτήσω το εξής.Αν για παράδειγμα κάποιος κόψει την αναβολή του και λίγο καιρό μετά παίρνει ένα αγροτικό(το οποίο το είχε δηλώσει πριν τη διακοπή της αναβολής),πόσο εύκολο είναι να σου δώσουν αναρρωτική άδεια για να μπορέσεις να κάνεις το αγροτικό σου?\nTα εχεις μπλεξει λιγο. Αναρρωτικη απο τον στρατο παιρνεις μονο αν νοσηλευτεις σε στρατιωτικο νοσοκομειο. Δικαιουσαι 18 μερες αν κανεις 12μηνη θητεια και 12 μερες αν κανεςις 9 μηνη θητεια.\nΑν θες να κανεις το αγροτικο σου θα πρεπει να παρεις αναβολη, οχι αδεια 15μηνων. Δεν υφισταται κατι τετοιο.\nΘεωρω πως ειναι εξαιρετικα δυσκολο κατι τετοιο αφου την εχεις ηδη διακοψει οικειοθελως.\nΑυτο που μπορεις να κανεις ειναι να ξεκινησεις το αγροτικο και να διακοψεις αυτο ωστε να παρουσιαστεις. Τελειωνοντας το φανταριλικι θα συνεχισεις το αγροτικο (εννοειται αλλο χωριο)\nΠαιδια, πρωτον,ποσες μερες (πανω/κατω) ερχεται το χαρτι της καταταξης πριν τη καταταξη;\nΔευτερον, χρειαζεται ακτινογραφια θωρακος με φωτογραφια την οποια προσκομμιζω στο ΚΕΥΓ; Αλλου ειδους ιατρικες εξετασεις χρειαζονται;\nΓια οσους αναρωτιουνται...ΝΑΙ ειμαι ψαρας...\n15 μερες πριν την καταταξη το χαρτι φτανει στο τοπικο αστυνομικο τμημα. Καλο θα ειναι να πας να το παρεις μονος σου ωστε να μην τρεχεις τελευταια στιγμη αν πχ δε σε εχουν βαλει στο ΚΕΥΓ (οπως εμενα που στην αρχη με εστελναν πεζικο Κορινθο και απο πανω διορθωμενο με στυλο πεζικο Ιωαννινα καθως ειχα διακοψει την αναβολη ενοσω ημουν φοιτητης).\nΑκτινογραφια θωρακος με γνωματευση και φωτογραφια, που την κανεις δωρεαν σε οποιοφηποτε κρατικο νοσοκομειο με το φυλλο της καταταξης σου.\nΚαλο θα ειναι να εχεις αντιγραφο πτυχιου, οπωσδηποτε αδεια ασκησης επαγγελματος ελληνικη, και οποιαδηποτε προυπηρεσια (αγροτικο, ειδικοτητα) μεταπτυχιακα ή και διδακτορικο (το οποιο κανει μια εξαμηνη εκπτωση αν δεν κανω λαθος αν ειναι τελειωμενο)\nΛΕΛΕ 8 Μαιου 2006!\nΚαλά τα πρώτα τα καταλαβαίνω, χρειάζονται για ν'αποδείξεις πως είσαι ιατρός και θες θητεία ιατρού, αλλά το τελευταίο δεν το έπιασα ρε μάγκα. Δηλαδή με διδακτορικό τελειωμένο κάνεις 6 μήνες θητεία;\nΝα 'σαι καλα ρε dr takis...Εσυ απολυεσαι, εγω μπαινω...Σε τι μοναδες πηγες, αν επιτρεπεται;\nΕσυ απολυεσαι, εγω μπαινω...\nΗ καλύτερη ατάκα...\nΘα φας καλά!!\nΘυμαμαι οταν ημουν πρωτο ετος Ιταλια, ειχε ερθει ενα παιδι να σπουδασει πολιτικος μηχανικος αφοτου ειχε κανει τη θητεια του (18 μηνες τοτε)...Ε μετα το πρωτο, δευτερο μηνα ειχε βαρεθει να τον λενε οι παλαιοτεροι ελληνες ματρικολα (εκ του ιταλικου matricola=αριθμος μητρωου του καθε φοιτητη τον οποιο παιρνει με το που εγγραφεται)...Οποτε σε καποια στιγμη δυσκολη φωναζει...''Αμαν πια! Ματρικολα και ματρικολα...Ειδα και επαθα να παλιωσω στο στρατο και να μη με λενε ποντικι και ερχομαι εδω και ειμαι παλι ψαρας;;;''\nΚαλά με τα «ματρίκια» έχουν ειπωθεί οι καλύτερες ατάκες. 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Ίσως γνωριστούμε εκεί.\nΚαλή Θητεία να έχουμε.\nΤροποποιήθηκε 18 Απριλίου 2006 από ΑΡΗΣ\nΓια τον φιλο πιο πανω το πιο μοδατο στο στρατο ειναι η οπλοφοβια..βγαινεις ι4 δεν κανεις υπηρεσια περα απο θαλαμοφυλακας δεν μπορει κανεις να αποδειξει οτι δεν εχεις και τελος..οποιος δεν ειναι ιατρος και παρουσιαζεται ευκαιρια να το δηλωσει..για ιατρους δεν εχει νοημα γιατι ετσι αλλιως ειναι πολυ καλα στις μοναδες χωρις υπηρεσιες(με εξαιρεσεις βεβαια σε μερικες ελαχιστες μοναδες!). Αντε μερικα σκοπετα και περιπολιες στην αρτα δεν χαθηκε και ο κοσμος!! ιατρος και οπλοφοβια ειναι μεγαλη μ..... γιατι σε ακολουθει στις αλλες μοναδες και σε βλεπουν με μισο ματι....\nτωρα για σενα\n1)πας αρτα κευγ αν δεν εισαι απο εβρο και δεν σου κατσει καμια στραβη..δεν εισαι δοκιμος υγειονομικου εισαι οπλιτης και μπαινεις εκει...\n2)αν θες να γινεις δοκιμος ΔΕΑ 100% θα σε κανουν μεταταξη μαλλον σε τεθωρακισμενους η πιζικαριους..πλεον δεν παιρνουν υγειονομικους σαν ΔΕΑ παρα μονο με τρελο βυσμα\n3)αλλο ΥΕΑ αλλο ΔΕΑ. ΥΕΑ εισαι υπψηφιος οπως και σχεδον ολα τα 500 ατομα της σειρας σου στην αρτα\n4)σαν βιολογος δεν μπορεις να κανεις καμια δουλεια κσι θα σου δωσουν καμια ειδικοτητα η ν/τ (νοσηλευτης τραυματιοφορεας) η βοηθος ακτινολογου. Υπαρχουν βεβαια και ασχημες ειδικοτητες και μεταταξεις αλλα παιζουν συνηθως σε αλλους και οχι βιολογους. Υπαρχουν και ειδικοτητες παραπλησιες δεν ξερω αν υπαρχει και ειδικοτητα καθαρα βιολογος δεν θυμαμαι\n5)υπηρεσιες κλασσικες θα κανεις σκοπετα θαλαμοφυλικια περιπολιες..οπλοφοβια εχεις? αν εισαι ν.τ μπορει να κανεις και υπηρεσιες στο στεπ περα απο ολα αυτα\n6)για νοσοκομειο και ολα αυτα θελει δοντακι αν το εχεις προσπαθησε το αν και παλι ν/τ στο νοσοκομειο θα καταληξεις...\nπαντως οπως και να εχει καλα θα περασεις εφοσον εχεις χαρτι για αρτα,,,αντε σειρουλες καλη θητεια εμεις εχουμε ακομα για να απολυθουμε....\nΦΙΛΕ ΣΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΩ ΓΙΑ ΤΙΣ ΠΛΗΡΟΦΟΡΙΕΣ\nΑΠΟ ΟΛΑ ΑΥΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΕΙΠΕΣ ΚΡΑΤΑΩ ΟΤΙ ΟΙ ΔΕΑ ΠΑΝΕ ΠΕΖΙΚΟ ΚΑΙ ΟΧΙ ΥΓΕΙΟΝΟΜΙΚΟ.ΑΡΑ ΝΑ ΦΡΟΝΤΙΣΟΥΜΕ ΝΑ ΜΗ ΠΕΡΑΣΟΥΜΕ ΤΙΣ ΕΞΕΤΑΣΕΙΣ ΕΦΟΣΟΝ ΥΓΕΙΟΝΟΜΙΚΟ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΛΥΤΕΡΑ?\nΕΠΙΣΗΣ ΒΙΟΛΟΓΟΙ ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ ΣΤΑ ΔΗΜΟΣΙΑ ΝΟΣΟΚΟΜΕΙΑ ΣΤΑ ΕΡΓΑΣΤΗΡΙΑ ΟΜΩΣ ΓΙΑ ΗΛΕΚΤΡΟΦΟΡΗΣΕΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ ΔΙΑΦΟΡΑ ΜΟΡΙΑΚΑ.ΕΧΩ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΡΑΚΤΙΚΗ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΞΕΡΩ.ΑΠΛΑ ΔΕΝ ΞΕΡΩ ΑΝ ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ ΤΕΤΟΙΑ ΣΤΑ ΣΤΡΑΤΙΩΤΙΚΑ ΝΟΣΟΚΟΜΕΙΑ.ΤΕΛΟΣ ΠΑΝΤΩΝ Ο ΘΕΟΣ ΒΟΗΘΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΛΗ ΣΥΝΕΧΕΙΑ ΣΕ ΣΕΝΑ.\n* ΤΑ ΠΟΣΤ ΜΕΣΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΟ ΣΤΡΑΤΟ ΤΑ ΚΑΝΕΤΕ ?\nΠρώτα απ΄όλα να σου ευχηθώ καλή και γρήγορη θητεία!!Απ΄όσα άκουσες και πρόκειται να ακούσεις να κρατάς και να πιστεύεις τα μισά και λιγότερα,σχετικά με το στρατό και την ζωή μέσα σε αυτόν.\nΣαν βιολόγος δυστυχώς δεν πρόκειται να έχεις και πολλές ευκαιρίες (για να μη πω καμία) να ασχοληθείς με το αντικείμενό σου στο στρατό.Με εξαίρεση τους γιατρούς και σε μερικές μονάδες και τους οδοντογιατρούς,όλοι οι υπόλοιποι απλά ανήκουν στο υγειονομικό σώμα αλλά μόνο στα "χαρτιά"!!\nΤο πιθανότερο είναι να έχεις ειδικότητα Ν/Τ (νοσοκόμος-τραυματιοφορέας) το οποίο μεταφράζεται σε σκοπέτα,περίπολος,καθαριότητα ΣΤΕΠ ή ιατρείου και στις καλύτερες των περιπτώσεων γραφιάς στο γραφείο του υπίατρου (αν σε συμπαθήσει ή αν καθαρίσει το βύσμα σου για σένα).\nΔυστυχώς απ΄όσο γνωρίζω,πέρα από το 401 στρατιωτικό νοσοκομείο (Αθήνα) κανένα άλλο ΣΝ δεν μπορεί να "χρησιμοποιήσει" εσένα και τις σπουδές σου σαν βιολόγος.Αλλά και εκεί νομίζω ότι υπάρχουν στρατιωτικοί μόνιμοι βιολόγοι.Οπότε....Άσε,που αν δεν είσαι από Αθήνα (ή αν το μέσο σου δεν είναι καλύτερο από των άλλων) την Αθήνα θα την δεις...μετά από τον στρατό ή σε καμιά άδεια!\nΕλπίζω να απάντησα σε κάποιες απορίες σου.\nΚαι πάλι σου εύχομαι καλή θητεία!\nΤροποποιήθηκε 18 Απριλίου 2006 από janon\nΝα μην το ξεχάσω,αν και δεν ξέρω αν κάποιος το έχει αναφέρει σε παλαιότερα ποστ!!\nΌσοι έχουν τελειώσει Ιταλία και μπορούν να υπολογίζουν σε βαρβάτο Μέσο (με το Μ όχι απλά κεφαλαίο!!), να μην ξεχάσουν να δηλώσουν στην Άρτα ότι θέλουν να πάρουν μετάθεση στη Νατοϊκή βάση της Napoli!!!!\nΠάρα πολλά υπέρ (τα οποία δυστυχώς εγώ αγνοούσα...) και μοναδικό κατά ότι θα είστε για 9 μήνες και πάλι Ιταλία ή καλύτερα και πάλι εκτός Ελλάδας.Είναι έμμισθη θέση (αν θυμάμαι καλά 1500 € το μήνα) και έξοδα ό,τι ξοδέψετε στις εξόδους σας!\nΑπό 2 παιδιά που το κάνανε άκουσα τα καλύτερα!!Αφήστε που μετράει και σαν προυπηρεσία και στο βιογραφικό σας,αν κάποιος θέλει να κάνει ειδικότητα στο εξωτερικό!\nΑν δεν σας κάνουν αυτή την ερώτηση στην Άρτα , να το ψάξετε μόνοι σας εκεί πού μπορείτε να το δηλώσετε!!\nΔημοσιεύτηκε 19 Απριλίου 2006 (τροποποιήθηκε)\nΠάρα πολλά υπέρ (τα οποία δυστυχώς εγώ αγνοούσα...) και μοναδικό κατά ότι θα είστε για 9 μήνες και πάλι Ιταλία ή καλύτερα και πάλι εκτός Ελλάδας.Είναι έμμισθη θέση (αν θυμάμαι καλά 1500  το μήνα) και έξοδα ό,τι ξοδέψετε στις εξόδους σας!\nΠαλι Ιταλια ρε γαμωτο;;;...Δε θα με χαλασουν, βεβαια, τα 1500 ευρουλακια/μηνα... Ασε που Napoli δεν εχω παει ποτε (γαμω το Βορρα μου...)...Για να δουμε...\nΤροποποιήθηκε 19 Απριλίου 2006 από TrippinOn\nΠαρακαλω δεν κανει τιποτα!\nπρος medicus chirurgicus: Δεν εχω κανει διδακτορικο, οποτε δεν ξερω, αλλα ειμαι σχεδον σιγουρος. Οποιος ενδιαφερεται, τηλεφωνακι στο στρατολογικο γραφειο ΡΟυφ, ή οπου ανηκει, και αμεσως θα του πουν.\nΤωρα, προς ολους τους ενδιαφερομενους Ιατρους: Οπου εχετε βυσμα μην το αφησετε να παει χαμενο. Στο στρατο γινεται μαχη βυσματων, προσπαθηστε να διεκδικησετε αυτο που δικαιωματικα θα μπορουσατε να ειχατε: Μια πιθανοτητα\nΚΕΥΓ: ήταν πολυ καλα. 8 εβδομαδες εκατσα εκει απο τις οποιες 6 εβδομαδες στη βασικη εκπαιδευση και 2 εβδομαδες και καλα Ιατρικη εκπαιδευση (πώς να συμπληρωνετε παραπεμπτικα κλπ).\nΜπαινω πρωι πρωι (καλο για να ξεμπερδεψετε νωρις με τα γραφειοκρατικα, την εξεταση απο καποιον συναδελφο, τα ρουχα, την τοποθετηση στο θαλαμο). Εγω μπηκα στον 2ο Λοχο. Οσοι ειναι στον 1ο Λοχο, θεωρουν αυτους που ειναι στον 2ο βυσματιες. Σε ενα βαθμο ισχυει, καθως τελικα γινονται πολλες "μεταταξεις λοχων". Μπορειτε να πειτε και χωρις βυσμα εκει. Πώς?\nΣτη πυλη του στρατοπεδου μαζευεστε ολοι μαζι, και καθε 20 ατομα ανεβαινετε πανω. Η πρωτη εικοσαδα πηγε πρωτο λοχο, η δευτερη δευτερο (εκει ημουν), η τριτη πρωτο κοκ\nΡωτηστε λοιπον καποιον στην πυλη ποια ειναι η επομενη εικοσαδα και αν ειναι ζυγη δοκιμαστε την τυχη σας. Εχετε αυξημενες πιθανοτητες να ειστε στον δευτερο λοχο. Δε σημαινει κατι το να ειστε στον πρωτο. Δεν υπαρχουν τραγικες διαφορες.\nΣτις 8 εβδομαδες εκανα τις εξης υπηρεσιες:\n2 μαγειρια (εκ των οποιων το πρωτο την πρωτη κιολας μερα, επειδη ξεμπερδεψαμε ννωρις, και μαλιστα δεν θεωρηθηκε μετρησιμη υπηρεσια)\n3 σκοπετα (ενα τριπλο νουμερο, και ενα μονο νουμερο)\n1 πυρασφαλεια στρατοπεδου (καθεσαι ολη μερα και σβηνεις τις πολλες φωτιες που αναβουν στο στρατοπεδο)\n1 επιφυλακη, οπου δεν ημουν γκαντεμης ωστε να αντικαταστησω καποιον που ξαφνικα επαθε "πελματιαια απονευρωσιτιδα" και δεν μπορουσε να φυλαξει σκοπετο.\n1 εβδομαδα (στις τελευταιες 2 εβδομαδες οπου οι γιατροι εγιναν 3ος Λοχος και οι Νοσηλευτες 4ος) με χωσανε οργανο υπηρεσιας λοχου. ΜΑΚΡΥΑ, ουτε στην αρχη, ουτε στη μεση ουτε καμια στιγμη στη διαρκεια της θητειας σας. Δεν κανετε υπηρεσιες αλλες εκεινη τη βδομαδα, αλλα καθε δευτερη μερα κανετε εφοδους στις σκοπιες (αρα δε κοιμαστε) και τρεχετε συνεχεια.\nΥπηρχαν και χειροτερα.\nΤαπεινη μου γνωμη, μη χρησιμοποιησετε μεσο στη βασικη εκπαιδευση, δεν ειναι ιδιατερα δυσκολη - ειναι η μονη ισως μυρωδια στρατου που θα παρετε. Δεν θα θυμαστε οτι το ξυνατε σε ενα γραφειο (ασε που σε πολλα γραφεια απλως δεν πηγαινεις στην πρωινη εκπαιδευση, αλλα κανεις υπηρεσιες), οπου βαρατε μυγες, αλλα το σκοπετο ή την εκπαιδευση μαζι με τα υπολοιπα παιδια, με τα γελια και τα απροοπτα τους.\nΜετα απο 3 βδομαδες παιρνετε 3 μερες αδεια (ορκωμοσιας απο τις οποιες γραφονται οι 2)\nΜετα απο 2 εβδομαδες αλλες 2 μερες (αγραφες)\nΜΕτα απο 2 βδομαδες αλλες 2 μερες αγραφες.\nΘα σας σπασουν τα νευρα οσοι παρατεινουν την αδεια τους κατα 1 με 2 μερες, οταν πεσει τηλεφωνο\nΜπορειτε να το κανετε και χωρις αυτο! Πώς?\nΒγειτε στην αναφορα πριν την αδεια και ζητειστε 24ωρη ή 48ωρη παραταση. Επικαλεστειτε οικογενειακους λογους, πειτε οτι χωρισατε με την κοπελα σας, πειτε οτι εχετε καποια επειγουσα υποχρεωση σε δημοσια υπηρεσια (ειναι ανοικτες μονο καθημερινες), πειτε οτι πεθαινει η γατα σας, ό,τι να 'ναι! Δεν εχετε να χασετε τιποτα! (Αυτο το εκανα και κερδισα 1 μερα επιπλεον)\nΑν δεν σας τη δωσουν, μπορειτε να πατε στο 401 να σας εξετασει ο εφημερευων στο ΤΕΠ, να του πειτε οτι ποναει η μεση σας, ή να του πειτε στα ισια οτι θελετε 2-3 μερες να ηρεμησετε και να σας βγαλει Ελευθερο Υπηρεσιας Μη Δυναμενο Μετακινησεως. Αυτο το χαρτι το πατε στο Φρουραρχειο, και ουτε γατα ουτε ζημια!\n(Δυστυχως αυτο δεν το ήξερα, πριν εφημερευσω στο Φρουραρχειο...)\nΤελειωνει η βασικη: Πατε 401 οσοι εχετε μεταθεση σε νησια, 424 οσοι εχετε μεταθεση στον εβρο. Αν πατε 424 (θεσσαλονικη) μην κανετε αλλαγη (ουτως η αλλως πρεπει να το κανετε αμεσως, και ισως να το σπρωξετε) για να ειστε σπιτι σας στην Αθηνα. Θεσσαλονικη 15 μερουλες ειναι το καλυτερο κομματι της θητειας σας. Μονο Δευτερα - ΠΑρασκευη και για ελαχιστες ωρες. Αν εχετε να μεινετε παιρνετε διανυκτερευση, αν οχι ειστε μεσα στο 424, αλλα και παλι μπαινοβγαινετε ο,τι ωρα θελετε και σπατε τα νευρα στους ομολογουμενως κακουτυχους Νοσηλευτες, Βιολογους Φαρμακοποιους κλπ που βαρανε σκοπετα.\nΠαραμεθοριος: Πηγα Διδυμοτειχο στο Νοσοκομειο. Ηταν καλα. Εμαθα 5 πραγματα. Ο Διευθυντης ειναι ο χειροτερος που θα μπορουσε να υπαρχει. Πολλα μορια σας δινει απο το Διδυμοτειχο και πανω, η Σαμοθρακη, Η Λημνος, το ΚΑστελοριζο, Η Συμη. Προτιμηστε αυτα (με τον γνωστο σας) ωστε να εχετε ελπιδες καλης μεταθεσης μετα.\nΦοβερη μοναδα στο Διδυμοτειχο 16ΛΔΒ, στο ΛΑγο 30 ΤΥΠ, 129 ΑΚΜΜΠ, 163 ΑΚΜΜΠ. Εννοω απο αποψη αδειων. Να ξερετε αυτα αλλαζουν καθε χρονο, καθως παντα ειναι θεμα διοικησης.\nΚαλο θα ειναι αν εχετε αναρρωτικη - φοιτητητικη και γενικοτερα ειδικη αδεια να την παρετε στην παραμεθοριο. Τοτε χρειαζεστε τις αδειες, οχι στην καλη μεταθεση κοντα στο σπιτι σας.\n2η μεταθεση: Ηρθα Αθηνα, υπαρχουν πολυ καλες μοναδες τις οποιες τις μαθαινετε αφου βγουν οι μεταθεσεις καθως κανενας δεν λεει που ειναι καλα. Γενικα Αθηνα ειναι καλα οπουδηποτε\nΣΕΘΑ, ΓΥΣ, ΤΟΜΣ, ΦΡΟΥΡΑΡΧΕΙΟ ΑΘΗΝΩΝ, ΣΑΝ, ΕΡΓΟΣΤΑΣΙΟ ΑΡΒΥΛΩΝ ΣΤΟΝ ΠΕΙΡΑΙΑ μονο πρωι (αν και στη ΣΑΝ αλλαξε το καθεστως τελευταια) 7-14 Δευτερα με ΠΑρασκευη. ΟΝΕΙΡΟ\nΜενιδι, Ασπροπυργος, αρκετα καλα.\nΠΡΟΕΔΡΙΚΗ ΦΡΟΥΡΑ, ΚΑΑΥ, ΣΧΟΛΗ ΕΥΕΛΠΙΔΩΝ, μενεις και μεσα πολλα βραδια\nΑπο αδειες εχετε\n18 μερες κανονικη το 12μηνο και 18 μερες ειδικη (ισως να μην βρειτε τροπο να την παρετε: αναρρωτικη, φοιτητικη, αγροτικη)\n15μερες κανονικη το 9μηνο και 12 μερες ειδικη\nτο 6μηνο δε θυμαμαι\n20μερες Ολυμπιακη (οσοι ηταν εθελοντες στο Αθηνα 2004! Να το καλο λοιπον!) ΙΣχυει μεχρι καταταξη ως και 31-12 2007\n2 μερες καθε μηνα παραμεθοριου (καθεστε 3,5 μηνες ακριβως) αρα 6. 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