url: =Αποστολέας Θέμα: Metallica... (Αναγνώστηκε 32796 φορές)\n« Απάντηση #25 στις: 10/09/02, 12:31 »\nAΥΤΟ ΠΟΥ ΕΝΝΟΩ ΦΙΛΕ ΓΙΩΡΓΟ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΟΤΙ ΣΤΟ ΜΕΤΑΛ ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ ΟΙ ΚΡΑΧΤΕΣ. ΕΠΕΙΔΗ ΤΟ ΕΙΔΟΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ UNDERGROUND ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ ΣΥΓΚΡΟΤΗΜΑΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΚΑΤΑ ΚΑΙΡΟΥΣ ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ MAINSTREEM ΟΠΟΤΕ ΠΙΑΝΟΥΝ ΚΟΙΝΟ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΦΕΡΝΟΥΝ ΣΤΟ ΜΕΤΑΛ. ΟΠΟΤΕ ΚΑΠΟΙΟΙ ΑΠΟ ΑΥΤΟΥΣ ΠΡΟΧΩΡΑΝΕ,ΑΚΟΥΝΕ ΚΙ ΑΛΛΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΕΛΙΚΑ ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ "ΜΕΤΑΛΛΑΔΕΣ".ΚΑΠΟΙΟΙ ΑΛΛΟΙ ΑΚΟΥΝΕ ΑΠΛΑ ΤΑ ΗΙΤ ΚΑΙ ΕΠΙΣΤΡΕΦΟΥΝ ΣΤΑ ΔΙΚΑ ΤΟΥΣ. ΓΙΑ ΠΑΡΑΔΕΙΓΜΑ ΠΑΡΕ ΤΟΝ ROB ZOMBIE KAI TON MARILYN MANSON. ΠΟΛΥ ΑΤΤΙTUDE ΚΑΙ ΛΙΓΗ ΜΟΥΣΙΚΗ ΑΞΙΑ. ΦΕΡΝΟΥΝ ΟΜΩΣ ΚΟΣΜΟ ΣΤΟ ΜΕΤΑΛ.ΤΟΥΣ ΔΕΙΧΝΕΙ ΤΟ ΜΤV ΟΛΗ ΜΕΡΑ.ΑΥΤΟΣ ΠΟΥ ΘΑ ΤΟΝ ΔΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΤΟΥ ΑΡΕΣΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΠΑΡΕΙ ΤΟ CD ΤΟΥ ΕΧΕΙ ΜΠΕΙ ΣΤΟ TRIP. ΜΕΤΑ ΘΑ ΑΓΟΡΑΣΕΙ ICED EARTH KAI META ΜΑΙDEN K.O.K\n« Απάντηση #26 στις: 10/09/02, 23:02 »\nΕίσαι σωστός.Για κάποιον που δεν έχει ακούσει metal,το black album είναι κλειδί.\nΌσο για το ότι η metal είναι η σύγχρονη κλασσική μουσική, νομίζω ότι το άκουσμα του Call of Ktulu τα λέει όλα.\n« Απάντηση #27 στις: 10/09/02, 23:43 »\nΣωστά εγώ το έδωσα σε ένα ΠυξΛαξικό φίλο μου και κόλλησε..\nΕγώ πάντως μόλις άκουσα το For Whom the Bell Tolls από το S&M ΤΡΕΛΑΘΗΚΑ. Τους έγραψα όλους εκεί που έπρεπε, πήγα cdοπωλείο, αγόρασα όλα τα Metallica και συνεχίζω με άλλα heavy συγκροτήματα...\n« Απάντηση #28 στις: 11/09/02, 01:11 »\nNa milame gia to an einai kaloi oi stixoi ton Leftallica! Me tin mousiki tous den exo problima, an kai rockas anagnorizo to Fade to Black os ena apo ta kalitera komatia olon ton epoxon. Omos pragmatika gelasa otan eida ena paidi sto forum na ipostirizei fanatika, na kovei fleva!, gia tous stixous ton Leftallica. Mallon prepei na skeftomaste perissotero... Pistevo, kai kaneis den mporei na mou alla3ei gnomi, oti to kalitero stixourgiko apotelesma ton Leftallica den plisiazei oute to 1% tous stixous tou Jim Morrison kai ton Doors, ton Pink Floyd kai ton Scorpions. An 8elete na milisoume gia Metal, akouste tao Heaven and Hell, Children of the Sea, Children of the Grave, sigrinete...\nKai gia na min eimaiste 3enomaneis, DISTIXOS kaneis den katadexete na akousei ellinikous stixous. Pragmatika filoi mou, o Alkinoos Ioannidis, Orfeas Peridis, Portokaloglou, Tripes, Basilis, kai pali Alkinoos Ioannidis den plisiazontai. "Ti na tin kano ti zoi mou, sto parami8i tha tin ri3o na pnigei, na parami8iastei i psixi mou na se pistepsie apo tin arxi, na se pistevei otan m'aggizeis, tis nixtes otan pis8irizeis kai na les tha mai konta sou otan 8es"\nI mousiki einai efkoli ipo8esi kai 8ema goustou PANO AP'OLA. Otan milame gia stixous NA SKEFTOMASTE!!!\n« Απάντηση #29 στις: 11/09/02, 01:28 »\npisteuw pws oi metallica htan kia tha EINAI ena poly kalo sygrotima den katalavainw poy yparxei problima me toys metallica? mia xara sygrotima einai. emena prosopika mou aresoyn kai toys akouw..\n« Απάντηση #30 στις: 11/09/02, 02:09 »\nfile giwrgo. argisa alla diavasa telika to minima sou(ena palio kai megalo min). distixws anafereis kai mena mesa. pisteuw oti exw tin ikanotita na krinw tin mousiki opoioudipote sigkrotimatos, oti mousiki kai an paizei auto.to an tin apodexontai oi alloi , oi opoioi mporei na einai kai thaumastes tou sigkrotimatos den me endiaferei.omws den mporeis na les oti den mporw na krinw kati pou den exw akousei giati distixws exw akousei ola ma ola ta tragoudia twn metallica.kai lew distixws giati telika itan xasimo xronou giati apo olokliri tin diskografia tous zitima na me sigkinisan tria tessera kommatia. oso gia tis sinenteukseis tous les oti lene oti kai oi ipoloipoi omoioi tous. ekei einai kai to lathos tous giati prwsopika pisteuw oti prepei na diaforopoioumaste apo tous allous kai oxi na prospathisoume na tous mimithoume.\n« Απάντηση #31 στις: 11/09/02, 09:20 »\nTO 8EMA DAMIANE DEN EINAI AN SE SYGINISAN 'H OXI. AFTO LIGO MAS NOIAZEI. TO 8EMA EINAI NA MPOREIS NA ANAGNWRIZEIS KAPOION OTAN AXIZEI KAI AS MI SOU ARESEI. KAI OI METALLICA EXOUN ANAMFISVITITH AXIA STO MOUSIKO STEREWMA EITE TO 8ELOUN KAPOIOI EITE OXI. TWRA AMA DE SOU ARESOUN MAGKIA SOU. ALLA AN LES OTI DEN AXIZOUN EPEIDH DE SE SYGINOUN TOTE MALLON DE XEREIS TI 8A PEI ANTIKEIMENIKH KRISH.\nOSO GIA TON FILO POU LEEI GIA TOUS STIXOUS TWN METALLICA MALLON DEN EXEI AKOUSEI KAI POLLA. EIDIKA OTAN LEEI GIA TO FADE TO BLACK TO OPOIO EINAI KOMMATARA ALLA EFTYXWS YPARXOUN POLLA KALYTERA METALLICA.KAI EIPA K SE ALLO POST OTI TA ERWTOLOGA POU GRAFOUN KAPOIA SYGKROTIMATA EINAI TO PIO EFKOLO EIDOS STIXWN. O KATHENAS MPOREI NA GRAPSEI GIA ERWTES KAI AGAPES. OSO GIA TOUS XENOUS STIXOURGOUS POU ANAFEREIS SAFWS GELAW ME TON JIM MORRISSON SAN STIXOURGO,PROSKYNW TOUS PINK FLOYD KAI STOUS ZEPELLIN KAI ADIAFORW GIA TI STIXOURGIKI IKANOTITA TWN SCORPIONS H OPOIA SE ELAXISTA TRAGOUDIA ME GEMIZEI. DEN EIMAI FANATIKOS TWN METALLICA, TOUS AKOUW POLY LIGO PIA.APLA DE MPORW NA ANTIMETWPIZETAI ENA MEGALO SYGKROTIMA SAN ASXETO EPEIDH KAPOIOI EITE EXOUN MEGALEIWDH KOLLIMATA EITE EINAI ASXETOI OI IDIOI.\nKAI EPISIS O ALKINOOS EINAI O MONOS APO AFTOUS POU ANAFEREIS POU GRAFEI STIXOUS POU AXIZOUN. ISWS KAI O AGGELAKAS. GENIKA STHN ELLADA DEN EXOUME SOVAROUS STIXOURGOUS (NEOUS) GIATI APLA DE POULAEI STHN LAIKOPOP ELLINIKI KOULTOURA.\n« Απάντηση #32 στις: 11/09/02, 09:34 »\nA! EPISIS XEHASA TA DIAFANA KRINA TA OPOIA AFTI TI STIGMI EINAI OI KALYTEROI STIXOURGOI ELLINES.\nKAI JIMMY..OI L.Z. EINAI TERSTIO SYGKROTIMA (OXI OSO OI PNK FLOYD ALLA TERASTIO). ALLA MI KOLLAS EKEI. GIATI ESY EXEIS KOLLISEI. KAI MI MOU LES EMENA NA AKOUSW DIO KAI SABBATH KAI NA SYGKRINW ME TOUS METALLICA GIATI EXW AKOUSEI POLLA PERISSOTERA APO SENA KAI AFTA POU LES TA AKOUSA POLLA XRONIA PISW K TA EXW EMPEDWSEI.AKOU ESY LIGO KALYTERA TOUS METALLICA KALYTRA PRIN ARXISEIS NA MILAS GIA STIXOURGIKH...\nAPLA ENA DEIGMA....\n« Απάντηση #33 στις: 11/09/02, 10:43 »\nAneksarthta an ta teleytaia xronia oi Metallica ekanan mia strofh pou den me brhke symfwnw, einai anamfisbhthta mia megalh metal mpanta... kai file jimmy page einai dyskolo na krineis ( kai edw mazi ) tin stixourgikh diaforwn sygtrothmatwn giati panta peftoun se sygrish me ta agaphmena sou kai einai monimws rigmena... twra oi metallica exoun grapsei pollous kai wraious stoixous kai exoun katapiastei me polla themata... twra to an enas stoixos sou aresei h oxi eksartatai apo polla.. gnwmh mou einai oti polloi neoi tragoudopoioi grafoun stoixous me ypotithemeno nohma tous opoious kaneis den katalabainei kai o kathenas dinei mai dikia tou ermhneia alla kai gohteyetai apo mia syllogh leksewn wraia topothethmenwn mesa se mia strofh.... trano paradeigma h lina nikolakopoulou pou kamia fora grafei kati stoixous oi opoioi exoun deka diaforetikes ermhneis apo deka diaforetikous antrwpous...sto thema mas twra einai logiko na synepernoun kapoion ellina oi ellinikoi stoixoi giati einai pio eykoloi...( eidika otan oi gnwseis agglikwn einai periorismenes,kai on oxi periorismenes oxi me poihtikh kateyhthissi)ayto pantws pou thelw na pw einai oti gia mena oi Metallica exoun grapsei foverous stoixous pou gia mena ksepernane pollous apo tous neous kaliitexnes stin xwra mas..ayta\n« Απάντηση #34 στις: 11/09/02, 10:47 »\nakrivws opws ta les...\noute ki emena me vrike symfwno h strofi twn metallica. kai kanena metalla nomizw...\nomws o hetfield itan kai einai idiofyis stixourgos.\n« Απάντηση #35 στις: 11/09/02, 12:33 »\nΠαράθεση από: DREAMSCAPE στις 11/09/02, 09:20\nAN KAI MEGALO TO MINIMA MOU, 8A H8ELA NA TO DIABASEIS\nKatarxas den 8a i8ela na iparxei eironia stin sizitisi giati o ka8enas leei tin gnomi tou Gia ton Jim Morrison Den exo na po kati, pi8anotata na exeis akousei mono ta "sou3e" ton Doors, opos to Break on through h' to Light my fire. Den se katigoro, den einai idiaitera gnostoi oi Doors, opos oi Metallica. Den eimai eidikos gia tous Doors, alla 8a asou protina na diabaseis tin poihtiki sillogi tou Jim Morrison "American Player" h' to biblio "Jim Morrison and American Dream". Oso gia ta "eroto-stixakia kai erotologa"... O Morrison me tous stixous tou ir8e antimetopos me olo to American Dream kai katafere se megalo ba8mo na boi8isei stin katareusi tou. Anoi3e ta matia ton Amerikanon kai tous ekane na katalavoun tin "pseftia" tou "Oneirou", ola mesa apo tous stixous. Egrapse tragoudia imnous kai antipolemika pou den plisiazoun oute akro8igos ta Stixakia ton Led sto Achilles Last Stand [PROSOPIKA (to tonizo gia na min 8eori8o pali lan8asmenos) PROSOPIKA to 8eoro to kalitero antipolemiko, xoris na sigrino tous stixous]. Oi metallica ti kataferan? Na siginisoun tous Metallades kai na tous kanoun na dakrisoun h' na poulisoun kana ekatomirio kommatia parapano stis gomenes (rota mia kopela sxedon asxeti pia tragoudia ton Metallica 3erei). Den einai ka8olou ligo, e3allou pios den exei epidio3ei afto to pragma. Oi Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath klp (ta sigrotimata pou mou aresoun) afto eixan gia skopo tous kai den ta katigoro, etsi kai oi Metallica. Alla min bazeis ton Morrison stin idia klimaka me olous osous proanefera (stixourgika). O ENAS TA EBALE ME OLOKLHRO TON KOSMO MESO TON STIXON TOU KAI OLOI OI ALLOI ME TIS DISKOGRAFIKES TON ANTIPALON TOUS. Gia tous Scorpions, pragmati atixes to paradeigma mou, mallon itan apotelesma tou en8ousiasmou mou sto proto minima Oso gia ta erotologa kai tous stixous me ftino periexomeno, mallon afto einai fainomeno tis epoxis mas to opoio den sinantatai sixna sta tragoudia tis Klassikis rock kai eidika ton Doors. Oso gia ba8os noimaton.... Hetfield Vs Morrison (as sigrinei kapoios). Pisteuo den iparxei sigrisi.\nSinopsizontas, den katakrino ka8olou tous stixous ton metallica, exo akousei POLI XEIROTERA ("Otan ergazesai oute fantazesai ti kano moni mou mes to saloni mou"). Einai arketa kaloi, alla apotelei alazonia na 8eloume na sigri8oun me tou Jim Morrison.\nY.G.: Den 8elo afti i sizitisi na ginei diamaxi, gi'afto parakalo opiadipote apantisi na min einai eironiki\n« Απάντηση #36 στις: 11/09/02, 12:50 »\nΗ ΑΛΗΘΕΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΟΤΙ ΠΟΤΕ ΔΕ ΚΑΘΗΣΑ ΝΑ ΑΧΟΛΗΘΩ ΜΕ ΤΟΥΣ DOORS ΓΙΑΤΙ ΑΚΡΙΒΩΣ ΠΟΤΕ ΔΕ ΘΕΩΡΗΣΑ ΟΤΙ ΤΟ ΑΞΙΖΟΥΝ.ΙΣΩΣ ΝΑ ΕΧΕΙΣ ΔΙΚΙΟ ΓΙ ΑΥΤΟ ΠΟΥ ΛΕΣ. ΟΙ ΑΝΑΤΡΕΠΤΙΚΟΙ ΣΤΙΧΟΙ ΕΧΟΥΝ ΠΟΛΥ ΕΝΔΙΑΦΕΡΟΝ ΟΠΟΤΕ ΜΑΛΛΟΝ ΘΑ ΔΙΑΒΑΣΩ ΑΥΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΠΡΟΤΕΙΝΕΣ.ΑΝ ΚΑΙ ΣΑ ΣΥΓΚΡΟΤΗΜΑ ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΤΟΥ ΓΟΥΣΤΟΥ ΜΟΥ. ΔΕ ΜΠΟΡΕΙΣ ΝΑ ΣΥΓΚΡΙΝΕΙΣ ΠΑΝΤΩS ΤΟΝ JIM ΜΕ ΤΟΝ JAMES ΑΦΟΥ ΔΕ ΓΡΑΦΟΥΝ ΤΟ ΙΔΙΟ ΕΙΔΟΣ.ΟΝΤΩΣ ΑΤΥΧΕΣ ΤΟ ΠΑΡΑΔΕΙΓΜΑ ΣΟΥ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΥΣ SCORPIONS. ΟΙ METALLICA ΠΑΝΤΩΣ ΕΧΟΥΝ ΑΓΓΙΞΕΙ ΕΥΑΙΣΘΗΤΕΣ ΧΟΡΔΕΣ ΜΕ ΑΡΚΕΤΑ ΤΡΑΓΟΥΔΙΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΚΑΙ ΔΕΝ ΕΝΝΟΩ ΤΙΣ ΕΜΠΟΡΙΚΕΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΜΑΛΑΚΙΕΣ. Ο HETFIELD ΓΙΑ ΜΕΝΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΝΑΣ ΜΕΓΑΛΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΕΜΝΕΥΣΜΕΝΟΣ ΣΤΙΧΟΥΡΓΟΣ.ΚΑΙ ΜΗ ΞΕΧΝΑΣ ΟΤΙ ΤΗΝ ΕΠΟΧΗ TΩΝ DOORS ΥΠΗΡΧΑΝ ΤΑ ΕΡΕΘΙΣΜΑΤΑ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΓΡΑΨΕΙ ΚΑΠΟΙΟΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΣΤΙΧΟΥΣ ΠΟΥ ΛΕΣ ΟΤΙ ΕΓΡΑΨΑΝ. ΤΩΡΑ ΟΧΙ ΚΑΙ ΤΟΣΟ.ΚΑΙ ΔΕ ΔΙΝΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΝΕΙΣ ΜΕΓΑΛΗ ΣΗΜΑΣΙΑ.ΑΛΛΟ ΟΠΑΔΙΚΟ ΚΥΜΑ ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΕΙ ΤΗ ΜΟΥΣΙΚΗ ΤΩΡΑ. ΤΟΤΕ ΕΙΧΕ ΔΥΝΑΜΗ ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΗ Ο ΚΑΘΕ ΕΠΑΝΑΣΤΑΤΗΣ ΚΑΛΛΙΤΕΧΝΗΣ. ΤΩΡΑ ΟΧΙ ΑΝ ΚΑΙ ΠΡΟΣΠΑΘΕΙ. ΚΑΙ ΕΝΔΕΙΚΤΙΚΑ ΕΝΑ ΠΑΣΙΓΝΩΣΤΟ ΤΡΑΓΟΥΔΙ ΤΩΝ METALLICA TO ONE, ΝΟΜΙΖΩ ΟΤΙ ΛΕΕΙ ΠΟΛΛΑ ΚΑΙ ΑΓΓΙΖΕΙ ΠΟΛΛΟΥΣ...Ο ΠΟΛΕΜΟΣ ΒΕΒΑΙΑ ΔΥΣΤΥΧΩΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΠΑΝΤΑ ΕΠΙΚΑΙΡΟΣ....\n« Απάντηση #37 στις: 11/09/02, 16:39 »\nMallon simfonisame se kapoia pragmata (oxi ta mona): Oti a) pote den ka8ises na asxoli8eis eparkos me tous Doors, opos kai ego pote me tous Metallica, b) Oti i dinami tis mousikis kai ta ere8ismata einai diaforetika se ka8e epoxi. Sou proteino na meletiseis sxolastikotera tous stixous tous, kai ego twn Metallica (isos xreiasto kai boi8eia apo kapoion pio empeiro ) kai na poume ta simperasmata mas, to forum edo einai gi'afto to skopo.\nOso gia kati pou eipes:\nKAI JIMMY..OI L.Z. EINAI TERSTIO SYGKROTIMA (OXI OSO OI PNK FLOYD ALLA TERASTIO). ALLA MI KOLLAS EKEI. GIATI ESY EXEIS KOLLISEI.\nPolloi xristes sto net blepontas to nick mou apla nomizoun oti eimai kollimenos MONO stous Led kai genika stin Skliri-Klassiki Rock. Pistepse me, oi empeiries mou apo mousikis apopsis (xoris na einai taftoxrona kai arketes) aggizoun ka8e eidos mousikis, ektos tis HipHop pou kata tin gnomi mou den a3izei oute kan anaforas, ka8os den einai mousiko eidos. Ena nick kai mia para8esi sto forum den simainei tpt. Mporoume kalista na milisoume kai gia klassiki mousiki h' Hpeirotika paradosiaka\n« Απάντηση #38 στις: 11/09/02, 17:40 »\nΠαιδιά οι doors σκίζουν χωρίς αμφιβολία και o Morrison είναι από τους καλύτερους στιχουργούς, συνθέτες, τραγουδιστές που έχουν υπάρξει ποτέ...\nΈχει γίνει είδωλο ο τύπος με τη στάση του...\nΘυμάμαι και ένα περιστατικό που μου είχε περιγράψει ένας φίλος μου, δεν ξέρω αν είναι αληθινό αλλά σας το λέω:\n"Ηταν ο Morrison ωραία και καλά (full μαστούρα από μπύρες και ναρκωτικά) πάνω στη σκηνή και τραγουδούσε μανιασμένος ένα τραγούδι, ξέρω ποιο...\nΣε μια στιγμή και ενώ η μπάντα έπαιζε, ο Jim σταματάει να τραγουδάει ξαφνικά, και κατεβάσει το κεφάλι..\nΗ μπάντα και ο κόσμος δε το πήρε χαμπάρι στην αρχή και η μπάντα συνέχισε να παίζει αυτό που έπρεπε να παίζει και ο κόσμος ζητωκραύγαζε...\nΣε μια στιγμή, πέρνει το μικρόφωνο σοβαρός ο Morrison και λέει:\nΓύρισα μεθυσμένος στο σπίτι... Είχα θυμώσει γιατί με παράτησε η γκόμενα....\nΜπαίνω στο σπίτι, (κενό) βλέπω το πατέρα μου, (κενό) και του λέω: (μεγάλο κενό) (φωναχτά) ΑΗ ΓΑΜ**** ΡΕ ΜΑΛ***!!!!!!!\nΕντωμεταξύ η μπάντα ξαφνιάστηκε αλλά συνέχισε να παίζει!!!!\nΟ κόσμος ζητωκράβγαζε ανελέητα!!\n"Προχωράω στο διάδρομο και βλέπω τη μάνα μου (μεγάλο κενό) και της λέω (κενό) (φωναχτά) "ΘΕΛΩ ΝΑ ΣΕ ΓΑΜ*** ΜΩΡΟ ΜΟΥ!!!!!!!!!\nΕκεί ήταν που σταμάτησε και η μπάντα και ο κόσμος!!!\n« Απάντηση #39 στις: 11/09/02, 19:15 »\nSpoudaios o morrison alla oxi kai aimomiktis re gmt.... pantws opws eipate alles epoxes tote kai twra... ligoteres empneyseis twra giati prepei na palepseis gia poly ligotera pragmata....twra na se parapempsw se kati paromoiou periexomenou apo james hetfield...\nI f u c ked a sheep, i f u c k ed a goat , i rammed my c o c k right down its throat... so what ...so what.... i fu ck ed the queen, i fu ck ed Bach i even sucked an old man's c oc k so what...so what... kai paei legontas ... exei entelws apisteytous stoixous.. einai mia diaskeyh twn Anti Nowhere League pou tin ekanan gnwsth oi metallica\n« Απάντηση #40 στις: 11/09/02, 21:44 »\nΌποιος θέλει μια ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΙΚΗ ΧΧΧ foto του Hetfield ας μου πει να του τη στείλω προσωπικά...\nΤη βρήκα τυχαία στο Internet..\n« Απάντηση #41 στις: 12/09/02, 09:18 »\negw tin 8elw...\nkai to so what dystyxws den eiani oute afto twn metallica... einai apo tin epoxi tis aimomixias pou legame prin....\n« Απάντηση #42 στις: 09/02/03, 02:37 »\nειμαι φανατικος των metallica !για μένα κορυφαίο συγκροτημα που απο την πρωτη στιγμη έδειξε το πως θα καταλήξει λόγω αλλαγων στον ήχο τους!προσωπικα περιμένω το καινουριο τους δισκο!ελπιζω σε κάτι καλύτερο απο load τουλάχιστον! M E TA L L I C A\n« Απάντηση #43 στις: 04/06/03, 02:04 »\nH άποψη μου για τους Metallica συνοψίζεται ως εξής:\nΩς άτομα είναι όντως εντελώς καραγκιόζηδες (θα εξειρέσω τον Kirk)\nΒγάλανε 3 τέλεια thrash albums (Kill em all, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets) ena metrio (...and justice for all) kai ena kalo emporika (Black). Oi pap**ries tipou Load Reload Garage Inc me exairesi dio tria kommatia einai gia ta skoupidia.....Episis idiws sta teleftea album tous kiriws oi stixoi eine eknevristika ilithioi (p.x Give me fuel....fueeeel is moving engines )\nNa doume to rimadi to St. Anger ti tha einai...\n« Απάντηση #44 στις: 04/06/03, 09:31 »\nΝαι και είναι καλοί οι "cannot kill the battery"...\nΕρεβε βαριέμαι τώρα να απαντάω, άνοιξες παλιό θέμα.\n« Απάντηση #45 στις: 04/06/03, 11:08 »\nΤωρα γιωργο συγκρινεις την μπαταρια με το φορτωμα και το ξεφορτωμα?\n« Απάντηση #46 στις: 04/06/03, 11:42 »\nΚαμμιά σχέση απλά μιλάω για στίχο που ανέφερε ο έρεβος. Αν πούμε για καλοπισμένο και ευπρεπή στίχο μάλλον πρέπει να ψάξει αλλού και όχι στους μεταλλικα και γενικά στο μεταλ.\n« Απάντηση #47 στις: 04/06/03, 13:49 »\nΘα ξαναδιαφωνησω μαζι σου.... υπαρχουν μεταλ τραγουδια με πολυ ομορφο στιχο...Heart of Steel....Orgasmatron...Speed of Light...Believe...\n« Απάντηση #48 στις: 04/06/03, 15:03 »\nKαι μπορώ να σου πω άλλα 1.500 αλλά προορίζονται μόνο για όσους τα καταλαβαίνουν...\n« Απάντηση #49 στις: 07/06/03, 17:26 »\nego den mporo na apantiso antikeimenika!pantos ontos exoun mia kapoia MIKRI (STANDARD :p) parakmi\n1584 Εμφανίσεις 20/08/10, 09:06


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url: =Macedonian Press Agency: News in Greek, 01-03-31\n MILOSEBITS: "EIMAI POLY KALA KAI PINW KAFE ME TOYS FILOYS MOY"\n THN PEMPTH O PRWQYPOYRGOS QA EJAGGEILEI TA METRA KATA THS FTWXIAS\n PRONTI: QA AYJHQEI H DESMEYSH THS KOMISION GIA TH N.A.EYRWPH\n DYSKOLH NIKH (0-1) TOY OLYMPIAKOY EPI THS KALAMATAS\n KYPELLOYXOS ELLADOS STO POLO O OLYMPIAKOS\n H O.A. AKYRWSE 36 PROGRAMMATISMENES GIA AYRIO PTHSEIS\n BOLEI: O ARHS PHRE TO EISITHRIO GIA THN EYRWPH\n SYNANTHSH TSOXATZOPOYLOY - LESI\n O OLYMPIAKOS ZEYGARWSE TIS NIKES EPI TOY HRAKLH STO BOLEI\n MPASKET: MEGALH NIKH TOY PANIWNIOY EPI TOY OLYMPIAKOY\n TO KKE KATAGGELLEI THN PROSPAQEIA SYLLHCHS TOY SL. MILOSEBITS\n KARAMANLHS: DE NOEITAI KOINH EYRWPAIKH TAYTOTHTA XWRIS TH SYMBOLH THS\n EYKOLA TO PERISTERI NIKHSE TO MILWNA\n SHMITHS: SHMANTIKO OROSHMO H 20h EPETEIOS APO THN ENTAJH THS ELLADAS\n PODOSFAIRO: TA APOTELESMATA KAI H BAQMOLOGIA THS A' KATHGORIAS\n SYGKROYSEIS KONTA STO GKRATSANI\n PODOSFAIRO: TA APOTELESMATA KAI H BAQMOLOGIA THS B' KATHGORIAS\n TSOBOLAS: ISTORIKH ANAGKAIOTHTA H KOINH DRASH TWN ARISTERWN DYNAMEWN\n IKANOPOIHSH STH N.D. GIA THN APANTHSH SOYFLIA\n OI ELLHNOBOYLGARIKES SXESEIS STO EPIKENTRO DIEQNOYS SYNEDRIOY STH\n PEQANE O MARAQWNODROMOS NTIEGKO GKARSIA\n QETIKH APANTHSH SOYFLIA SE KARAMANLH\n SYGGNWMH APO TO EPIBATIKO KOINO ZHTA H OLYMPIAKH GIA THN TALAIPWRIA\nBeligradi, 31 Martioy 2001 (17:57 UTC+2)\nFwtografia: H oikia toy Slompontan Milosebits\n"Eimai poly kala kai pinw kafe me toys filoys moy" dhlwse o prwhn Gioygkoslabos proedros, Slompontan Milosebits apo to spiti toy, opws akoysthke se syntomh dhlwsh toy ston radiofwniko staqmo toy Beligradioy B92.\nSymfwna me ton radiofwniko staqmo, o Milosebits ekane th dhlwsh ayth peripoy sth 1.30 (topikh wra Beligradioy), en mesw sygkexymenhs katastashs gia th syllhch toy. "Parakoloyqw o,ti symbainei me ton idio tropo poy parakoloyqoyn oloi oi polites ths Serbias", eipe o Milosebits kai prosqese oti ejw apo thn oikia toy "exoyn sygkentrwqei polloi polites, oxi mono opadoi toy Sosialistikoy Kommatos, alla epishs kai osoi exoyn sthn kardia toys to lao mas kai thn ajioprepeia mas".\nOtan rwthqhke ean exei orgistei apo ta dhmosieymata gia th syllhch toy kai gia thn paroysia astynomikwn dynamewn ejw apo to spiti toy, o Milosebits dhlwse: "Fysika oxi, apla perimenw na dieyqethqoyn ola ayta me dikaio tropo, kai ayto gia to kalo toy laoy mas", enw amesws meta ekleise to thlefwno.\nO thleoptikos staqmos BK edeije plana toy Milosebits na emfanizetai ejw apo to spiti toy kai na xaireta to plhqos poy htan sygkentrwmeno.\nSto metajy, meta thn eisbolh twn astynomikwn arxwn ths xwras sto spiti toy Milosebits, to Sosialistiko Komma sygkalese ektakth syskech.\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (10:00 UTC+2)\nThn erxomenh Pempth meta th synedriash toy ypoyrgikoy symboylioy qa ejaggeilei o prwqypoyrgos desmh metrwn kata ths ftwxias kai toy koinwnikoy apokleismoy.\nO Akhs Tsoxatzopoylos epeshmane oti einai anagkaia h enisxysh thn koinwnikhs politikhs, xarakthrise wstoso anorqodojo ton tropo poy epelegh me thn perikoph kondyliwn diaforwn ypoyrgeiwn, tonizontas oti h politikh asfaleias kai amynas paramenei staqerh.\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (12:52 UTC+2)\nTh diabebaiwsh oti qa ayjhqei h oikonomikh kai politikh desmeysh ths Komision pros thn perioxh ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, edwse shmera o proedros ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, Romano Pronti, dieykrinizontas pantws, oti oi 15 den qa prepei na antimetwpizontai ws o Eryqros Stayros.\nAn kai o k.Pronti krathse kleista ta xartia toy oson afora to ycos ths oikonomikhs bohqeias poy qa xorhghqei sto epomeno diasthma gia thn enisxysh twn kratwn ths perioxhs, tonise pantws oti boylhsh ths Komision einai h oloena kai baqyterh symmetoxh ths sta balkanika drwmena.\n"H desmeysh ths Komision qa ayjhqei, me bash ena poly kaqaro politiko mhnyma. Prepei na agkaliasoyme thn perioxh, ta krath ths opoias eyelpistw oti qa ginoyn syntoma melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ypo thn proypoqesh oti qa prohghqei o ekdhmokratismos toys kai h oikonomikh anaptyjh", eipe xarakthristika o k.Pronti, kata th shmerinh episkech toy sto jenodoxeio "Biennh" sth Qessalonikh, opoy systegazontai o Eyrwpaikos Organismos gia thn Anasygkrothsh ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs kai to Symfwno Staqerothtas.\nO idios tonise oti h politikh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs gia thn Notioanatolikh Eyrwph stoxeyei -metajy allwn- sth dhmioyrgia mias eniaias oikonomikhs perioxhs. "Prepei na staqeropoihsoyme thn perioxh kai na dwsoyme wqhsh se neoys oikonomikoys qesmoys", dieykrinise o k.Pronti.\nAnaferomenos ejalloy, sto mexri stigmhs ergo toy Eyrwpaikoy Organismoy gia thn Anasygkrothsh ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, o proedros ths Komision to xarakthrise ws taxy kai apotelesmatiko, ekfrazontas thn pepoiqhsh oti ayto synebale apofasistika sto na epitaxynqei h oikonomikh anadiorganwsh kai o ekdhmokratismos twn kratwn ths perioxhs.\nThn ektimhsh oti to ergo toy Eyrwpaikoy Organismoy apotelei ejaireto paradeigma ths epityxias ths politikhs ths E.E, h opoia diaforopoieitai pleon apo thn klasikh parembatikothta, diatypwse apo thn pleyra ths h anaplhrwtria Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, Elissabet Papazwh.\nH idia ypenqymise oti, mesa sto poly syntomo xroniko diasthma poy mesolabhse apo thn krish toy 1999 sto Kossyfopedio mexri shmera, o Organismos eqese ek neoy se leitoyrgia to energeiako systhma sthn perioxh, anakataskeyase katoikies, sxoleia kai nosokomeia kai synebale ston ekdhmokratismo.\n"Apo th syzhthsh poy egine kata thn episkech toy k.Pronti sthn edra toy Organismoy, egine entelws kaqaro oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh exei desmeytei sobara na kanei o, ti mporei, gia na mhn janaperasei h perioxh krish", ypogrammise h k.Papazwh kai prosqese oti o Organismos mporei na leitoyrghsei kai gia th dieyqethsh eyryterwn zhthmatwn sthn perioxh, peran twn parembasewn poy exoyn hdh dromologhqei sth Serbia kai to Mayroboynio.\nKalamata, 31 Martioy 2001 (22:05 UTC+2)\nGia toys perissoteroys o Olympiakos htan to megalo fabori gia th nikh. Kai toys dikaiwse apolyta. Kerdise sthn Kalamata thn omwnymh omada me 0-1. Koryfaios paikths apo toys prwtaqlhtes htan gia allh mia fora o Alejhs Alejandrhs. O teleytaios malista petyxe kai to monadiko terma ths synanthshs sto 12' otan meta apo pasa toy Ze Ilias jegelase ton Lymperopoylo.\nKitrinh karta edeije o k. Bassaras stoys Kapetanopoylo kai Kappos.\nKALAMATA: Lymeropoylos, Gkrania, Palamaras, Mpelebwnhs, Kalbo, Mpaxramhs, Sentementes (46' Anastasakos), Kapetanopoylos, Soares, Kappos, Kalantzhs (68' Mpentil)\nOLYMPIAKOS: Eleyqeropoylos, Kwstoylas, Anatolakhs, Patsatzogloy, Niniadhs, Loytsiano (31' Tzwrtziopoylos), Ze Elias, Mayrogenidhs (71' Poyrsanidhs), Gewrgatos, Tziobani (77' Albes), Alejandrhs.\nPatra, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:48 UTC+2)\nPanhgyrizei o Olympiakos, afoy katafere na katakthsei to pempto kypello Ellados polo, kerdizontas sthn Patra th Boyliagmenh me 9-7. Ta ennialepta htan: 2-2, 1-2, 2-2, 4-1.\nSto mikro teliko h Glyfada kerdise ton Eqniko me 13-11. Ta ennialepta htan: 0-2, 3-3, 5-3, 5-3.\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:44 UTC+2)\nSto plaisio ths entajhs toy epixeirhsiakoy programmatos ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias stis yfistamenes synqhkes leitoyrgias toy neoy Dieqnoys Aerolimena "Eleyqerios Benizelos", h dioikhsh ths etaireias proxwrhse sthn akyrwsh 36 programmatismenwn pthsewn gia ayrio, 30 eswterikoy kai 6 ejwterikoy.\nSygkekrimena, ta dromologia eswterikoy poy de qa pragmatopoihqoyn einai ta ejhs:\n504 - 505 gia Hrakleio, wra anaxwrhshs 12.20\n578 - 579 gia Mytilhnh, wra anaxwrhshs 22.05\n730 - 731 gia Kw, wra anaxwrhshs 05.35\n902 - 903 gia Qessalonikh, wra anaxwrhshs 07.00\n940 - 941 gia Alejandroypolh, wra anaxwrhshs 05.25\n550 - 551 gia Santorinh, wra anaxwrhshs 05.30\n552 - 553 gia Santorinh, wra anaxwrhshs 08.30\n558 - 559 gia Santorinh, wra anaxwrhshs 17.50\n790 - 791 gia Skiaqo, wra anaxwrhshs 22.35\n752 - 753 gia Samo, wra anaxwrhshs 09.00\n764 - 765 gia Xio, wra anaxwrhshs 12.10\n804 - 805 gia Iwannina, wra anaxwrhshs 16.30\n650 - 651 gia Mykono, wra anaxwrhshs 05.55\n654 - 655 gia Mykono, wra anaxwrhshs 08.40\n060 - 061 gia Paro, wra anaxwrhshs 07.05\nOson afora sta dromologia ejwterikoy, h O.A. akyrwse tis pthseis:\n147 - 148 gia Bryjelles, wra anaxwrhshs 14.05\n233 - 234 gia Rwmh, wra anaxwrhshs 06.55\n385 - 386 gia Beligradi, wra anaxwrhshs 05.45\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:42 UTC+2)\n"An prin apo dyo mhnes legame oti qa bgainame Eyrwph, tote kapoios qa mas elege treloys. Shmera to oneiro to kaname pragmatikothta". O Mixalhs Alejandropoylos eixe kaqe logo na einai apolyta ikanopoihmenos apo thn telikh ekbash toy paixnidioy. H omada toy, o Arhs epiblhqhke toy PAOK me 3-0 set kai phre to eisithrio gia thn Eyrwph.\nApo thn allh ton PAOK "kooytsarisan" oi Swkraths Tsioymakas kai Dhmhtrhs Gewrgiadhs, meta thn paraithsh Xaritwnidh.\nTa set: 26-24, 25-23, 25-22\nARHS: Alejandropoylos 4.5, Nazirof 9.33, Carras 3.5, Pati, Gkirtzikhs 10.67, Tzoyrits 18.67/l- Paspalas, Oikonomoy, Balabanhs, Spanopoylos\nPAOK: Kobatsef 9.33, Mproyks 12.67, Proysalhs 1.67, Konstantinof 10.33, Mhtroydhs 1.33, Xristoforidhs 11.17/ l- Royssakhs, Smaragdhs 4.5, Tsiggidhs\nKastoria, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:39 UTC+2)\nMe ton Albano omologo toy Ismahl Lesi synanthqhke shmera sthn Kastoria o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs 'Amynas 'Akhs Tsoxatzopoylos. Kyrio qema sthn atzenta twn syzhthsewn toys htan h krish sthn PGDM, gia thn opoia oi k.k. Tsoxatzopoylos kai Lesi ejefrasan thn anagkaiothta ektonwshs ths me eirhnika mesa.\nH analhch drashs apo th balkanikh tajiarxia syzhthqhke apo toys dyo ypoyrgoys, wstoso den elhfqhsan sygkekrimenes apofaseis kai to qema parapemfqhke sth synanthsh twn ypoyrgwn Amynas twn xwrwn ths Notianatolikhs Eyrwphs.\nO k. Tsoxatzopoylos anaferqhke sth metabatikh periodo poy dierxetai shmera h Gioygkoslabia kai xarakthrise "eswteriko qema" thn epibolh periorismoy kat' oikon ston Slompontan Milosebits, ektimwntas oti den qa ephreasei tis synqhkes asfaleias sthn eyryterh perioxh twn Balkaniwn.\n"Einai mia maxh ejoysias poy dinetai metajy diaforetikwn kentrwn ejoysias sth Gioygkoslabia, h opoia einai fysiologikh otan pernas mia metabatikh periodo, otan pernas apo ena politiko systhma se ena allo", eipe o ypoyrgos.\nO Albanos ypoyrgos Amynas anaferqhke sthn katastash sthn PGDM, katadikase th xrhsh bias gia thn epilysh politikwn diaforwn kai ejefrase thn yposthrijh ths albanikhs kybernhshs oson afora th diathrhsh twn yfistamenwn synorwn.\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:30 UTC+2)\nDen ta katafere kai mesa sthn edra toy o Hraklhs sto bolei. Gnwrise thn htta apo ton persino prwtaqlhth, ton Olympiako me 3-0 set kai etsi o teleytaios zeygarwse tis nikes toy. H omada toy Ntaniel Ritsi ekane o,ti hqele mesa sto ghpedo.\n"Paijame poly kala. Emeina eyxaristhmenos apo toys paiktes moy. Egine kalo paixnidi kai o Olympiakos kerdise dikaia. H synexeia einai poly dyskolh", tonise meta to telos toy paixnidioy o proponhths toy Hraklh, Alekos Lewnhs, enw gia to qema thn apoysias toy Xrysanqoy Kyriazh epishmane: "Doyleyoyme ston Hraklh san mia omada kai oxi san onomata".\nTa set: 29-31, 23-25, 25-21, 24-26\nHRAKLHS: Kastornof 12.5, Nemets 10, Krabarik 20.5, Deslhs 12, Melkas 2, Karypidhs 9.5/l - Gzoyntelhs, Kalmazidhs 1.5, Iwannidhs\nOLYMPIAKOS: Koyrnetas 1, Gkioyrdas 7.5, Zeliaskof 2.5, Tsakiropoylos 11.83, Gkomez 23.33, Xristofidelhs 13.33/l - Roxas, Qeodwridhs, Ntrakobits 5, Kalaitsidhs\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:27 UTC+2)\nEgine kai ayto... O Paniwnios kerdise ton Olympiako me 80-63... Etsi meiwse tis elpides toy persinoy prwtaqlhth na katakthsei thn prwth qesh kai h synexeia einai dyskolh gi ayton.\nSto jekinhma h omada toy Peiraia htan ayth poy edeije oti qa perasei eykolo apogeyma. Eixe se arketa kalh mera ton Tomits kai katafere na epibalei ton ryqmo ths. To prwto dekalepto elhje me ena kalaqi diafora. H diafora ayth ayjhqhke kai oi dyo omades phgan sta apodythria me 10 pontoys diafora yper toy Olympiakoy. H epanalhch omws den htan h idia kai oi fwnes fainetai poy ebale o proponhths toy Paniwnioy, Leyterhs Soympotits kata th diarkeia ths anapaylas staqhkan aformh na allajoyn ton tropo paixnidioy me apotelesma na prohghqoyn sto trito dekalepto me treis pontoys. Ekei poy allajan ola yper toy Paniwnioy htan sto tetarto dekalepto opoy o Diamantopoylos exontas qaymasia apodosh anebase to skor sta ych.\nTa dekalepta: 16-18, 26-36, 52-49, 80-63\nPANIWNIOS: Zntobts 5, Agadakos 4, Papaloykas 12, Oyiliams 15, Diamantopoylos 21 (1), Maglos 14, Morales 8.\nOLYMPIAKOS: Ribers 15 (2), Ratza 11, Oikonomoy 5(1), Mpoyntoyrhs 3(1), Papanikolaoy 3, Femerligk 4, Tomits 9 (3), Risase 13.\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:22 UTC+2)\nTo KKE kataggelei thn prospaqeia syllhchs toy Slompontan Milosebits, prwhn proedroy ths Gioygkoslabias kai proedroy toy Sosialistikoy Kommatos Serbias.\n"Prokeitai gia syntonismenh tromokratikh prajh twn imperialistwn twn NATO - HPA me th synainesh kai eyrwpaikwn kybernhsewn kai me th synergia ths gioygkoslabikhs - serbikhs kybernhshs", epishmainetai se anakoinwsh toy grafeioy typoy ths KE toy KKE.\nTo KKE tonizei oti stoxos ths energeias ayths einai na nomimopoihqei to prosxhma toy imperialistikoy polemoy toy 1999 gia dialysh ths Gioygkoslabias kai na tsakistei to agwnistiko fronhma oswn antistekontai stis imperialistikes epidiwjeis, oswn antitiqentai sthn allagh synorwn kai sto pliatsiko.\n"O Slompontan Milosebits de qa diwkotan oyte qa anatrepotan an eixe synainesei sth Synodo toy Rampoyigie, stis HPA, sth Germania kai stoys alloys sfageis twn Balkaniwn. Den qa diwkotan oyte me to epixeirhma twn oikonomikwn egklhmatwn, an eixe symfwnhsei me to NATO", shmeiwnetai sthn anakoinwsh toy KKE.\n"Dikaiwma na krinoyn kybernhseis kai hgetes exoyn mono oi laoi se kaqe xwra kai oxi organa toy imperialismoy, opws einai to dieqnes dikasthrio ths Xaghs. O kaqe laos exei to dikaiwmata na epilegei to dromo poy o idios qelei.\nEpibebaiwnetai kai pali, oti, an to NATO den fygei apo ta Balkania, oi laoi den qa hsyxasoyn. H palh prepei na entaqei. Na agkaliasei mazika oloys toys balkanikoys laoys", katalhgei h anakoinwsh toy KKE.\n KARAMANLHS: DE NOEITAI KOINH EYRWPAIKH TAYTOTHTA XWRIS TH SYMBOLH THS ELLADAS\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:10 UTC+2)\nTh shmasia ths shmerinhs epeteioy gia thn Ellada kai gia oloklhrh thn Eyrwph epishmane apoce o proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias Kwstas Karamanlhs sthn omilia toy me qema: "Ellada kai Eyrwph: Ta 20 epomena xronia" sthn ekdhlwsh gia th symplhrwsh 20 xronwn apo thn entajh ths xwras mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sto Megaro Moysikhs Qessalonikhs.\nO k. Karamanlhs ektimhse oti idiaitera shmantiko einai kai to gegonos oti sth shmerinh ekdhlwsh paresthsan ekproswpoi olwn twn politikwn dynamewn toy topoy.\nEkane idiaiterh mneia ston idryth ths Neas Dhmokratias, ton Kwnstantino Karamanlh, tonizontas oti anelabe thn ylopoihsh toy eyrwpaikoy oramatos ths Elladas, se mia epoxh poy h politikh Eyrwph htan akomh adiamorfwth kai distaktikh kai enepneyse mazi me megaloys Eyrwpaioys oramatistes oloklhrh thn Eyrwph, wste na odhghqei xwris fobo pros thn kateyqynsh, sthn opoia brisketai shmera.\nTonise thn anagkh mias Eyrwphs poy qa einai qesmika ejoplismenh, proqymh kai ikanh na katapolema thn ekmetalleysh toy anqrwpoy, opote emfanizetai.\n"Einai mia shmantikh epeteios ayth poy giortazoyme. Shmantikh gia oloklhrh pisteyw - thn Eyrwph. Shmantikh akoma perissotero gia thn Ellada. Epitrecte moy omws na qewrw poly shmantiko kai to gegonos oti shmera eimaste edw ekproswpoi olwn twn politikwn dynamewn toy topoy. Olwn twn Ellhnwn. Einai - pisteyw kai ayto ena apo ta shmantika apotelesmata ths paroysias mas sthn eyrwpaikh oikogeneia. Opws epishs kai ena mhnyma twn Ellhnwn pros toys laoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai akomh perissotero pros toys laoys twn kratwn poy filodojoyn na entaxqoyn. H symmetoxh sthn E.E shmainei sthrijh ths Dhmokratias, shmainei sygklish metajy twn kratwn, alla kai metajy twn diaforetikwn apocewn sta krath melh", epishmane sthn arxh ths omilias toy.\n"Prin apo eikosi xronia, h Ellada apofasize na bgei oristika apo to hmifws ths eqnikhs ths monajias kai na staqei me aytopepoiqhsh sto apleto eyrwpaiko fws.\nPrin apo eikosi xronia, enas Ellhnas hgeths, enas Eyrwpaios oramatisths, eblepe tis prospaqeies oloklhrhs ths politikhs zwhs toy, alla kai toys poqoys mias neas genias sympatriwtwn mas na eyodwnontai me thn entajh ths xwras mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Oikonomikh Koinothta.\nO Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs, o idryths ths Neas Dhmokratias, toy kommatos poy exw shmera thn timh na hgoymai, anelabe thn ylopoihsh toy eyrwpaikoy oramatos ths Elladas, se mia epoxh, poy h politikh Eyrwph htan akomh adiamorfwth kai distaktikh. Se mia epoxh poy, oles oi alles politikes dynameis ston topo mas stekontan arnhtika sthn poreia entajhs ths xwras mas sthn (tote) EOK. Me th dioratikothta kai thn pisth toy sthn eyrwpaikh prooptikh, o Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs, oxi mono odhghse thn xwra mas sthn Eyrwph, alla synebale apofasistika kai sth diamorfwsh toy neoy oramatos gia thn Eyrwpaikh Oloklhrwsh. Enepneyse, mazi me megaloys Eyrwpaioys oramatistes oloklhrh thn Eyrwph, wste na odhghqei xwris fobo, pros thn kateyqynsh sthn opoia brisketai shmera.\nMazi toy, anagnwrisame tote, opws oloi anagnwrizoyn shmera, pws de noeitai koinh eyrwpaikh taytothta xwris th symbolh ths Elladas. Opws den noeitai kai mia Ellada poy proodeyei, xwris th megalh symbolh ths Eyrwphs", tonise.\nO k. Karamanlhs eipe oti "to omospondiako orama empneei th Nea Dhmokratia apo tote. Shmera fainetai oti empneei oloys toys Ellhnes. To omospondiako eyrwpaiko orama ginetai etsi h megalh proklhsh kai h megalh eyqynh gia oloys mas. Eixa prosfata thn eykairia sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio na paroysiasw tis skeceis kai toys problhmatismoys mas, to programma kai to orama mas gia th mellontikh Eyrwph. Gia thn Eyrwph twn kratwn kai twn lawn. Thn Eyrwph toy koinoy mellontos mas".\n"Kanoyme bebaia", prosqese, "oi Ellhnes thn aytokritikh mas. H alhqeia einai oti shmera, eikosi xronia meta thn entajh mas, o Ellhnas poliths perimenei na gefyrwqei to xasma poy ton xwrizei apo toys ypoloipoys Eyrwpaioys. Para thn entajh mas sth zwnh toy eyrw, h Ellada oysiastika apekline apo tis ypoloipes eyrwpaikes xwres. Se ryqmo anaptyjhs. Se meso eisodhma. Oi Ellhnes shmera einai ftwxoteroi apo arketoys laoys, toys opoioys, kapote yperskelizan se basikoys deiktes ths poiothtas zwhs. Ta bhmata poy kalycame htan polla, ma shmera prepei na broyme th dynamh na kanoyme akomh perissotera".\n"H nea Eyrwph mas dinei ayth thn eykairia. H nea Eyrwph, sthn opoia prosblepoyme, qa prepei na einai kalyterh, dynatoterh, synektikoterh apo thn shmerinh. Qa prepei na einai mia Eyrwph me safeis stoxoys. Mia Eyrwph me odhgo thn omada twn xwrwn poy metexoyn sto megalytero politiko kai oikonomiko egxeirhma ths prosfaths Istorias, thn Nomismatikh Enwsh.\nAyth h omada, h omada toy eyrw, exei hdh deijei th megalyterh politikh boylhsh gia thn ylopoihsh enos omospondiakoy egxeirhmatos. Ayth h omada exei koino orizonta, koinoys stoxoys. Prepei na exei koinh strathgikh kai koina organa. Gi' ayto ki emeis, xwris na apokleioyme kanenan, sthrizoyme th dhmioyrgia enos idiaiteroy organoy, opws gia paradeigma, enos Eidikoy Symboylioy h Grammateias, wste na syntonizetai apotelesmatikotera h politikh drash twn kratwn-melwn ths omadas toy eyrw.\nTaytoxrona, xreiazomaste mia amesh epanafora sthn koinotikh meqodo. Dhladh, sthn kalh leitoyrgia twn triwn basikwn organwn: toy Symboylioy, ths Epitrophs kai toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy. Gia emas, apotelei shmantikh proteraiothta h isxyropoihsh mias Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, poy eggyatai thn proodo pros to omospondiako orama.\nEpidiwkoyme, sto neo ayto plaisio sxesewn, th dhmioyrgia mias Eyrwphs prosiths ston polith. Xreiazomaste mia Enwsh poy qa sebetai tis kaqhmerines anagkes toy polith kai q' afosiwnetai se aytes. Mia Enwsh me dhmokratikh nomimopoihsh, alla kai me proswpa symbola orata kai katalhpta ston kaqe Eyrwpaio. Einai kairos na synapodexqoyme enan Proedro ths Epitrophs eklegomeno ap' oloys toys Eyrwpaioys. Ara, ena Proedro akomh pio isxyro.\nPisteyoyme se mia Eyrwph ypeyqynwn politwn, mia Eyrwph eleyqerwn anqrwpwn. Mia Eyrwph poy katanoei oti h anqrwpinh ekmetalleysh allazei synexws morfh kai prepei na yparxoyn isxyres antistaseis. Xreiazomaste ara mia Eyrwph poy qa einai qesmika ejoplismenh, proqymh kai ikanh na katapolema thn ekmetalleysh toy anqrwpoy, opote emfanizetai. Se opoia morfh emfanizetai. S' oles tis morfes, gia oloys toys polites ths, se oles tis xwres. H Eyrwph poy oramatizomaste einai ena omospondiako Kratos Eleyqerias.\nH Eyrwph poy oramatizomaste einai allhleggya kai asfalhs apo ejwterikoys kindynoys. Ta melh ths na exoyn koina kai apo koinoy prostateyomena synora. Oloklhrh h ektash ths na einai enas asteireytos potamos empneyshs gia osoys symmerizontai tis ajies ths.\nMia Eyrwph perhfanias gia toys polites ths, prajhs gia toys hgetes ths, deoys gia toys antipaloys ths.\nMia Eyrwph poy den qa paragnwrizei, alla qa sebetai apolyta tis idiaiterothtes toy kaqenos kai qa moirazetai ta koina epiteygmata. Mia Eyrwph poy qa enwnei kai den qa xwrizei", ypogrammise.\n"Eikosi xronia meta thn entajh ths sth megalh eyrwpaikh oikogeneia, h Ellada brisketai sth qesh na kalwsorizei, alles ypochfies gia entajh xwres. Aisqanomaste thn eyqynh na toys gnwstopoioyme apo th dikh ths empeiria, pws einai mia entajh, oxi mono stoys katallhloys oikonomikoys pinakes, oxi mono se politika symboylia, alla mia entajh se ajies, mia entajh se idees gia ton anqrwpo, mia entajh s' ena koino orama zwhs.\nH dieyrynsh qa prepei na ginei sth bash twn koinwn ajiwn kai me ta idia metra kai staqma gia oles tis xwres.\nPisteyoyme oti oi diapragmateyseis me gia oses xwres plhroyn ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs - kai einai ek twn pragmatwn etoimes - prepei na oloklhrwqoyn syntoma kai xwris alles kaqysterhseis. Mia tetoia mikrh dieyrynsh, sth fash ayth, mporei na thn antejei pio eykola to shmerino oikodomhma ths Eyrwphs. Qa einai pros ofelos ths Enwshs giati qa dwsei to mhnyma mias diadikasias se ejelijh, mias diadikasias poy proxwra. Gia oses xwres, h anagkh prosarmoghs toys sta koinotika dedomena, apaitei perissotero xrono, h entajh mporei na proxwrhsei meta thn oloklhrwsh ths neas Diakybernhtikhs toy 2004.\nEinai gnwsto, oti emeis oi Ellhnes, endiaferomaste idiaitera gia tis geitonikes mas xwres kai bebaia, gia thn Kypro.\nH qesh mas edw einai jekaqarh: Opoia ki an einai h prwth pros entajh omada, qa prepei na perilambanei opwsdhpote kai thn Kypro, h opoia plhroi ola ta krithria. Dieyrynsh xwris thn Kypro den ginetai", eipe.\n"Einai ejisoy shmantiko, twra poy h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh problhmatizetai ek neoy panw sthn olh ths domh, na doyme, apo thn arxh kai me realismo, to mellon ths sxeshs ths me thn Toyrkia.\nKai s' ayto prepei na eimai safhs. Oloi oi Ellhnes qeloyme mia Toyrkia eyrwpaikh, toso sto eswteriko ths, oso kai sth symperifora ths enanti twn geitonwn kai mellontikwn etairwn ths. Xwris entaseis. Xwris apeiles. Xwris stratiwtikh bia. Qeloyme mia Toyrkia poy n' apodexqei toys dieqneis kanones epilyshs problhmatwn, opws gia paradeigma, to Dikaio ths Qalassas. Qeloyme mia Toyrkia Symmetoxh sto eyrwpaiko kekthmeno. Na synergazomaste stena. Na exoyme sxeseis kalhs geitonias kai filias.\nDystyxws, h idia h hgesia ths Agkyras den kanei tipote allo, para na apodeiknyei kai na epideiknyei oti h apostash poy xreiazetai na dianysei einai akomh megalh. Oti para thn eyrwpaikh qelhsh Gia thn taxyterh dynath enswmatwsh ths sto eyrwpaiko gignesqai, xreiazetai mia synolikh allagh nootropias kai filosofias, se shmantikotatoys tomeis.\nAntiqeta, aisqanomaste idiaiterh xara gia thn proodo poy exoyn epitelesei arketes apo tis xwres ths Kentrikhs kai Anatolikhs Eyrwphs, alla kai twn Balkaniwn, pros thn eyrwpaikh kateyqynsh. Einai bebaia mia poreia poy hdh exei jeperasei th dekaetia. Ejisoy bebaio einai omws oti gia kapoies xwres, h poreia ayth, toso sto politiko, oso kai sto oikonomiko epipedo, apebh hdh idiaitera epwfelhs mias ki eginan antilhptoi ki enswmatwqhkan amesa, oi qesmoi kai oi diadikasies ths.\nZoyme se ena neo aiwna. Oi fobies toy xqes einai anamnhseis sto shmera. As einai ta shmerina oneira mas, h ayrianh kaqhmerinothta.\nOi proklhseis, omws, poy antimetwpizoyme sto koino eyrwpaiko mellon den qa prepei na mas kaqhsyxazoyn oyte lepto. Eimaste se ena kombiko shmeio ths istorias gia thn hpeiro mas. S' ena shmeio sto opoio oi prwtoboylies mas qa kaqorisoyn, oxi mono to diko mas mellon, alla kai to mellon twn eyrwpaikwn genewn poy qa 'rqoyn", ypogrammise.\n"Eikosi xronia meta thn entajh mas, oi Ellhnes kaloymaste na paroyme meros sthn paneyrwpaikh prospaqeia gia th syndiamorfwsh mias Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, poy qa symmerizetai aytes tis anhsyxies. Metexoyme energa sthn pragmatwsh toy eyrwpaikoy oramatos. Shmera oloi mporei na syneidhtopoioyme poso spoydaio einai na bgainei h politikh mprosta apo tis ejelijeis, mprosta apo thn epoxh mas. Eimaste perhfanoi poy emeis xarajame ton eyrwpaiko prosanatolismo sth xwra mas. Eimaste perhfanoi gia th shmerinh epeteio. Den jexname ekeinoys poy mas eferan se ayth th qesh.\nTa epomena eikosi xronia, as feroyn thn eyhmeria kai thn asfaleia sthn Eyrwph. As mas feroyn mia Eyrwph isxyroterh apo pote, eyaisqhth opws panta, enwmenh opws twra. Mia Eyrwph ths eyaisqhsias. Mia Eyrwph ths allhleggyhs. Alla kai mia Eyrwph ths drashs", epishmane.\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:05 UTC+2)\nEykola to Peristeri epiblhqhke toy Milwna me 94-70. H fetinh qetikh ekplhjh toy prwtaqlhmatos eixe ton prwto logo ston agwnistiko xwro kai den epetrece oyte gia mia fora stoys paiktes toy Milwna na epibaloyn ton ryqmo toys. H agwnistikh anwterothta toys fanhke apo to prwto kiolas dekalepto poy htan kaqoristiko, wste na pane sta apodythria oi dyo omades me 13 pontoys diafora. To hmixrono htan 49-36.\nTo skhniko toy agwna den allaje kai sthn epanalhch, afoy to Peristeri ejakoloyqoyse na exei to probadisma mexri kai to telos opoy phre eykola th nikh.\nTa dekalepta toy agwna: 21-15, 49-36, 75-48, 94-70.\nPERISTERI: Krhtikos, Papamakarios 15 (2), Pelekanos 13 (1), Zebrosonko 7, Ntinkins 2, Fornt 21 (3), Tsartsarhs 16, Rimpeiro 4, Antersen 14, Eyqymioy 2.\nMILWN: Kazianhs 3 (1), Sinnhs 4, Tzonson 4, Mentzos 8, Siatras 3 (1), Kroysebats 3 (1), Mixalos 2, Patelhs 2, Barypaths 17 (2), Pasxalhs 10, Morgkan 14 (1).\n SHMITHS: SHMANTIKO OROSHMO H 20h EPETEIOS APO THN ENTAJH THS ELLADAS STHN E.E.\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (21:02 UTC+2)\nShmantiko oroshmo xarakthrise apoce o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths th symplhrwsh 20etoys symmetoxhs, sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh epishmainontas oti h prosxwrhsh sthn Enwsh yphrje proion toy staqeroy prosanatolismoy ths xwras mas pros to idaniko ths symmetoxhs se mia koinh eyrwpaikh poreia, pros tis ajies kai tis arxes poy apotelesan tis baseis oikodomhshs ths shmerinhs Eyrwphs.\nSthn omilia toy me qema: "Ellada kai Eyrwph: "20 xronia symmetoxhs sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh - 50 xronia Eyrwpaikhs Oloklhrwshs" sthn ekdhlwsh gia thn 20h epeteio entajhs ths Elladas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sto Megaro Moysikhs o k. Shmiths ypogrammise oti oi anqrwpoi poy ergasthkan gia na katakthsei h Ellada th qesh ths sthn Eyrwph yphrjan polloi kai oti s' oloys ofeiloyme anagnwrish gia to ergo poy epitelesan epishmainontas oti politikoi prwtagwnistes, yphrjan o Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs poy odhghse th xwra sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai o Andreas Papandreoy poy edraiwse th symmetoxh ths Elladas sthn Enwsh.\nO prwqypoyrgos tonise h symmetoxh ths xwras mas sthn Enwsh epetrece na probaloyme thn taytothta mas, ton politismo mas, tis idees mas prosqetontas oti h Ellada shmera, meta apo eikosi xronia, apo mia xwra me periorismenes dynatothtes kai kyros anadeiknyetai se mia xwra poy symmetexei isotima s' oles tis enopoihtikes diadikasies kai ston eswteriko pyrhna twn kratwn-melwn ths Enwshs.\nEpeshmane akomh oti einai anagkh h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na diadramatisei staqeropoihtiko rolo sto dieqnes periballon kai na symbalei sthn anadeijh enos perissotero polykentrikoy kai isorropoy dieqnoys systhmatos kai oti xreiazetai gi' ayto na apokthsei ola ta mesa kai tis dynatothtes, poy qa ths epitrecoyn na probalei me ajiopistia kai synektikothta thn paroysia ths dieqnws.\n"Briskomaste mprosta s' ena shmantiko oroshmo: H Ellada symplhrwse fetos eikosi xronia symmetoxhs, ws plhres melos, sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, sthn tote Eyrwpaikh Koinothta.\nH prosxwrhsh sthn Enwsh yphrje to proion toy staqeroy prosanatolismoy ths xwras mas pros to idaniko ths symmetoxhs se mia koinh eyrwpaikh poreia, pros tis ajies kai tis arxes poy apotelesan tis baseis oikodomhshs ths shmerinhs Eyrwphs", ypogrammise o k. Shmiths.\n"Hdh prin apo th dhmioyrgia toy neoellhnikoy kratoys, h neoterh Ellada "eide" ton eayto ths ws tmhma toy eyryteroy eyrwpaikoy xwroy kai twn politikwn toy ejelijewn. Qewrhse oti, enw syneqete tis paradoseis ths Dyshs kai ths Anatolhs se mia gonimh politistikh taytothta, oi ajies, ta idanika kai oi prosanatolismoi ths htan aytoi ths megalhs eyrwpaikhs diadromhs toy diafwtismoy. Ths eleyqerias, ths dhmokratias, toy sebasmoy ths anqrwpinhs proswpikothtas. Mias diadromhs poy briskei thn afethria ths sthn klassikh Ellada. Oi idees toy Rhga Feraioy, oi apoceis toy Kapodistria, oi topoqethseis toy Eleyqerioy Benizeloy kai toy Alejandroy Papanastasioy sth dekaetia toy 1920, oles apeblepan na prowqhsoyn to idaniko ths eyrwpaikhs kai perifereiakhs synergasias, ws qemelio gia thn eirhnh, th dhmokratia kai thn eyhmeria twn lawn ths perioxhs", tonise.\nO k. Shmiths eipe oti "sta eikosi xronia poy perasan apo thn entajh eginan polla. Oi anqrwpoi poy ergasthkan gia na katakthsei h Ellada th qesh ths sthn Eyrwph yphrjan polloi. S' oloys ofeiloyme anagnwrish gia to ergo poy epitelesan. Alla den yparxei amfibolia oti oi politikoi prwtagwnistes yphrjan o Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs poy odhghse th xwra sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai o Andreas Papandreoy poy edraiwse th symmetoxh ths Elladas sthn Enwsh".\n"H Ellada shmera, meta apo eikosi xronia", epishmane, "apo mia xwra me periorismenes dynatothtes kai kyros anadeiknyetai se mia xwra poy symmetexei isotima s' oles tis enopoihtikes diadikasies. Poy mporei xarh sthn oikonomikh ths proodo kai thn epoikodomhtikh ths synergasia na symmetexei ston eswteriko pyrhna twn kratwn-melwn ths Enwshs".\n"H symplhrwsh ths eikosaetias apo thn entajh ths Elladas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sympiptei me mia ejelijh isodynamhs shmasias: Th symmetoxh ths Elladas sthn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh, sth zwnh toy Eyrw. H ejelijh ayth pistopoiei ta terastia bhmata proodoy poy pragmatopoihse h xwra. Alla kai thn terastia prospaqeia poy katebalan oles oi omades toy plhqysmoy. Epityxame, xwris na diarragei h eswterikh mas synoxh. Prowqhsame oles ekeines tis metarryqmiseis gia to dhmosionomiko kai eyrytero oikonomiko eksygxronismo, poy epetrecan sth xwra na ftasei s' ena prwtognwro gia thn istoria ths epipedo anaptyjhs. Na dhmioyrghsei ena kainoyrgio efalthrio eyhmerias kai prokophs gia oloys.\nTo arnhtiko senario mias xwras poy qa apomyzoysan oi etairoi mas den epalhqeythke. Giati se synergasia me toys etairoys mas efarmosame apo to 1981 politikes kai draseis poy synebalan sthn oikonomikh kai koinwnikh anaptyjh ths xwras kai idiaitera ths ellhnikhs ypaiqroy kai gewrgias. Ajiopoihsame toys koinotikoys poroys gia thn anasygkrothsh twn ypodomwn mas. Gia th beltiwsh ths qeshs kai toy eisodhmatos twn ligotero eyporwn perioxwn, twn pio adynamwn koinwnikwn omadwn.\nH symmetoxh mas sthn Enwsh, mas epetrece na probaloyme thn taytothta mas, ton politismo mas, tis idees mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Bohqhsame sth diamorfwsh mias Enwshs poy synergazontai xwres me diaforetika epipeda anaptyjhs, poy synantwntai dhmioyrgika diaforetikes koinwnies kai o kaqe topos symballei se ena apallagmeno apo exqrothtes polyeqniko kai polypolitismiko synolo.\nSymbalame sthn prowqhsh twn kentrikwn stoxwn ths Enwshs, opws ths dieyrynshs, idiaitera me tis xwres ths Anatolikhs Eyrwphs kai ths Mesogeioy. Me diadoxikes politikes apofaseis, karpo epiponwn diapragmateytikwn prospaqeiwn, ferame thn Kypro sto katwfli ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.\nAjiopoihsame th symmetoxh mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia na enisxysoyme thn asfaleia kai ta kyriarxika mas dikaiwmata, alla kai gia na anaptyjoyme nees prwtoboylies sthn ejwterikh mas politikh. Anadeixqhkame polos staqeropoihshs, eirhnhs kai synergasias, protassontas kai epimenontas sthn anagkh sebasmoy toy dieqnoys dikaioy, idiaitera sthn astaqh perioxh ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs.\nErgazomaste gia na bohqhsoyme oles tis xwres ths perioxhs sthn proseggish toys sthn Enwsh. Gia na jeperastoyn oi ypereqnikistikes nootropies toy perasmenoy aiwna. Gia na yparxei ena ypoxrewtiko staqeropoihtiko plaisio gia oloys. Ayto isxyei kai gia thn Toyrkia. Gi' ayto kai emmenoyme sthn efarmogh twn apofasewn toy Elsinki kai ths etairikhs sxeshs ths Toyrkias me thn Enwsh.\nH symmetoxh mas sthn Enwsh ephrease nootropies kai kosmoantilhceis sto eswteriko ths xwras. Katerrice to myqo toy anadelfoy eqnoys. Apedeije se ametrhtes periptwseis thn oikonomikh allhleggyh, alla kai se krisima eqnika zhthmata thn politikh allhleggyh. Syrriknwse moirolatrikes prokatalhceis gia ta oria twn dynatothtwn mas, kallierghse mia nea antilhch maxhtikothtas kai aytopepoiqhshs. Mas edwse sygxronws na katalaboyme oti ola osa petyxame se mia epoxh qeamatikwn kai ragdaiwn anakatatajewn sthn dieqnh skhnh kai thn pagkosmia oikonomia, den qa htan efikta, xwris th symmetoxh mas se ypereqnikes diadikasies.\nMas ekane na blepoyme etsi poly pio pera apo ta synora mas. Na katalaboyme oti gia na oikodomhsoyme ena mellon proodoy xreiazetai h synergasia, h symmetoxh, h dieqnhs paroysia. Oti xreiazetai h gnwsh toy gyrw kosmoy kai h ajiopoihsh ths empeirias allwn. Mas esprwje na ginoyme pio apotelesmatikoi, pio antagwnistikoi. Sygxronws ephrease tropoys skeceis kai staseis zwhs me perissoterh synesh kai nhfaliothta. Gia perissoterh synaisqhsh koinwnikhs eyqynhs. Gia perissoterh eleyqeria. Gia mia pio anoixth koinwnia", eipe.\n"Ligoys mhnes meta to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio ths Nikaias qewrw oti xreiazomaste mia megalh, anoixth syzhthsh gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs me thn eyryterh dynath symmetoxh twn lawn ths.\nH Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kleinei apo to prwto enopoihtiko bhma, thn Eyrwpaikh Koinothta Anqraka kai Xalyba, mia poreia oloklhrwshs penhnta xronwn. Mia poreia poy akoloyqhse diadoxika bhmata epektashs, embaqynshs, dieyrynshs. Zwtikos oros gia thn ejelijh ayth htan h kinhsh pros ta empros. H diarkhs kinhsh poy staqeropoioyse kai empedwne kaqe bhma. Poy edeixne neoys dromoys, apantoyse se nea aithmata, anoige kainoyrgies prooptikes. Kinhthria dynamh gia kapoioys htan to orama ths Enwmenhs Eyrwphs, gia kapoioys alloys ta eidika symferonta toys. Omws, to kaqe bhma synebale kai dieyryne th syneidhsh mias koinhs poreias.\nQa qymisw kapoies apo tis epidiwjeis kai apofaseis poy dhmioyrghsan th mh anastrecimh dynamikh:\n� Th diasfalish ths eirhnhs metajy twn xwrwn poy syneptyssan thn Eyrwpaikh Koinothta.\n� Th dhmioyrgia proypoqesewn mias megalyterhs eyhmerias, mesw mias dieyrymenhs agoras.\n� Thn enisxysh twn adynamwn koinwnikwn strwmatwn, opws htan stis prwtes dekaeties oi agrotes.\n� Th meiwsh twn perifereiakwn anisothtwn kai th sygklish twn perifereiwn.\n� Thn prowqhsh ths staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs me ena koino plaisio oikonomikhs politikhs.\n� Thn anadeijh ths Enwshs se kentriko oikonomiko polo dynamhs kai kentro lhchs apofasewn sto pagkosmiopoihmeno oikonomiko systhma", tonise.\nO prwqypoyrgos anefere oti syxna h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh dexetai epikriseis tonizontas omws oti h aitia den einai ayta poy kanei, alla ayta poy den kanei.\n"Ekeina sta opoia shmera den mporei n' antapokriqei. Ta kaqe loghs elleimmata kai aneparkeies ths. H eykolh apanthsh ths epistrofhs sto eqniko kratos gia na qerapeytoyn aytes oi elleiceis apotelei laqos. Giati ta problhmata ayta exoyn tis aities toys sth shmerinh ypereqnikh pragmatikothta, sth shmerinh pagkosmiopoihmenh oikonomia kai mono me ypereqnikes apanthseis mporoyn n' antimetwpisqoyn", eipe.\n"Alloi pali proballoyn oti to shmerino ejeliktiko stadio arkei, oti den xreiazetai allo embaqynsh ths Enwshs. Einai sxedon sigoyro oti h shmerinh politikh pragmatikothta, estw ki an doqhkan kapoies qesmikes lyseis sth Nikaia, qa endynamwsei akomh perissotero tis fygokentres dynameis se mia Enwsh twn 21 h twn perissoterwn kratwn-melwn. H stasimothta qa apodynamwsei akomh perissotero thn apotelesmatikothta ths Enwshs na xeirizetai syllogika problhmata kai politikes gia oloys toys laoys ths Eyrwphs. Qa syrriknwsei thn Enwsh s' enan pragmati grafeiokratiko mhxanismo. Qa kindyneysoyme na mpoyme etsi sthn troxia mias erpoysas krishs poy qa odhghsei sthn apodomhsh akomh kai ekeinwn poy qewroyntai aytonohta h kekthmena. Prepei na proxwrhsoyme mprosta", ypogrammise.\nSth synexeia o k. Shmiths tonise: "Oso kai an fainetai antifatiko, h eyrwpaikh oloklhrwsh sthrizetai sthn idia logikh, poy prytaneyse sth diadikasia diamorfwshs twn eqnikwn kratwn sthn Eyrwph twn dyo teleytaiwn aiwnwn. To perasma apo thn feoydarxia h th monarxia sto kentrika organwmeno dhmokratiko kratos apantoyse se ena aithma apotelesmatikothtas ki enarmonishs se nees pragmatikothtes: To eqniko kratos, ws basikh politikh kai koinwnikh monada symbiwshs, me isxyrh kentrikh ejoysia, sxetika eniaio eqnika lao kai sygkekrimena synora, ejyphretoyse, opws akoma ejyphretei sygkekrimenoys stoxoys: Mia kentrika sxediasmenh anaptyjh, kalyterh ejyphrethsh twn koinwnikwn kai oikonomikwn aithmatwn, eniaia diaspora ajiwn kai arxwn kai thn prostasia twn koinwniwn apo ejwterikoys kindynoys.\nAytes akribws oi aities poy odhghsan sthn anagkh dhmioyrgias twn eqnikwn kratwn briskontai pisw apo thn idea ths eyrwpaikhs enopoihshs, poy ta teleytaia penhnta xronia systhmatika oikodomeitai. H enwsh ths Eyrwphs den apotelei mia epanastash se baros toy eqnikoy kratoys, alla mia metejelijh toy, se tajh megeqoys, se neoys leitoyrgikoteroys sxhmatismoys poy oi sygxrones apaithseis prosdiorizoyn.\nPoies einai aytes oi apaithseis:\nPrwton, h anagkh na diathrhqoyn, na dieyrynqoyn, kai an einai dynaton, na epikrathsoyn s' enan dieyrymeno antagwnistiko kosmo, ajies kai arxes opws h dhmokratia, to kratos dikaioy, o sebasmos sthn anqrwpinh ajia, sth monadikothta ths proswpikothtas kai ths prwtoboylias toy atomoy, alla parallhla, ki o sebasmos sthn koinwnia kai ta symferonta ths. Ayth h qemeliakh isorropia den mporei na epibiwsei, para mono me th synexizomenh koinh apodoxh ths sto synolo toy eyrwpaikoy xwroy, alla kai pera apo ta synora toy. Ayto, omws, proapaitei syspeirwsh gia na epiteyxqei.\nDeyteron, h anagkh ths antagwnistikothtas. Apenanti se polyplhqh krath me terasties dynamikes sygxwneyshs eteroklitwn plhqysmwn h se syspeirwseis kratwn poy ekkolaptontai, h Eyrwph den qa mporesei na antepejelqei mesa apo aples eqnikes epiloges h stoixeiwdeis morfes enarmonishs politikwn. Apenanti stis prosklhseis ths pagkosmiopoihshs h apanthsh einai h oso to dynaton pio megalh dieyrynsh ths Eyrwphs, alla ki h embaqynsh ths oloklhrwshs, mesa apo krisimes omoiogeneis politikes koinhs efarmoghs sto synolo ths hpeiroy.\nMe tis antijoothtes kai tis palindromhseis poy kaqe politiko kai koinwniko kinhma prokalei, h eyrwpaikh oloklhrwsh proxwrei. Prepei wstoso na epitaxynoyme toys ryqmoys oloklhrwshs, kaqws oi pieseis poy dexomaste apo ton periballonta xwro ginontai olo kai pio epitaktikes.\nQa prepei na apodextoyme, prwta ap' ola, oti h dieyrynsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs prepei na epitaxynqei, ean qeloyme na dhmioyrghsoyme synqhkes eirhnhs, staqerothtas kai eyhmerias sthn hpeiro mas, ki an qeloyme na beltiwsoyme to eidiko baros ths hpeiroy se sxesh me alla krath h dieqneis mhxanismoys.\nSynepeia mias tetoias apodoxhs einai mia Eyrwph me ena anisoskeles sxhma oloklhrwshs. Gia oloys toys symmetexontes qa prepei na isxyei h proshlwsh se orismena elaxista ajiwn kai arxwn kai h qesmikh toys entajh se basikoys mhxanismoys oloklhrwshs. Apo ekei kai pera, h qesh toys se sxesh me to synolo mporei na diaferei. Anagkaia ws ek toytoy einai h diatypwsh enos syntagmatikoy keimenoy, poy na periexei toso tis qemeliwdeis ajies, oso kai tis katanomes armodiothtwn anamesa sta ypereqnika kai ta eqnika organa. Anagkaia telos einai h diamorfwsh twn kanonwn poy qa epitrepoyn thn koinh poreia, alla mesa se mia logikh eyelijias. Mia tetoia eyelijia epitrepei, fysika, diaforetikoys baqmoys oloklhrwshs. Afhnei sta krath ekeina, poy einai etoima kai ikana na paraxwrhsoyn ena megalytero pososto kyriarxwn epilogwn toys sto egxeirhma ths oloklhrwshs, na proxwrhsoyn se pio wrima stadia embaqynshs ths".\n"Sto shmeio ayto", prosqese, "gennietai to eylogo erwthma poio qa einai to krithrio gia thn peraiterw embaqynsh. Poia krath qa dikaioyntai na symmetasxoyn s' aythn. Thn apanthsh th dinei h idia h ejelijh ths E.E., kai o kentrikos stoxos poy ejyphretei: H syspeirwsh ths Eyrwphs exei proklhqei gia na beltiwsei th zwh twn lawn ths kai gia na katasthsei thn hpeiro politika kai oikonomika antagwnistikh monada sto plaisio twn eyryterwn dieqnwn sxesewn. H oikonomikh oloklhrwsh eixe protaqei, ws h "atmomhxanh" gia ayton to skopo. Kai h oikonomikh oloklhrwsh ekfrazetai shmera me thn ONE. H ONE omws den einai oyte aytoskopos, oyte teliko shmeio ejelijhs. Apotelei aplws ena apo ta stadia proseggishs sto eyrwpaiko omospondiako fainomeno, poy omws prodikazei tis peraiterw ejelijeis. Prodikazei th synexh dieyrynsh ths synergasias. Giati; Giati mia eniaia oikonomikh kai nomismatikh politikh einai adynaton na epitelesei to ergo ths leitoyrgwntas se keno allwn politikwn. Kamia oikonomikh politikh den mporei na epipleysei, idiaitera sto sklhro dieqnes periballon, an den synodeyetai toso apo symplhrwmatikes koines politikes, oso kai kyriws, apo ena eyrytero politiko orama. H parembash ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, me toys stoxoys ths kai tis armodiothtes ths, den eparkei. Den mporei na ypokatasthsei basikoys kai genikoys prosanatolismoys koinhs politikhs, oi opoioi na dinoyn sarka kai osta sthn oikonomikh politikh".\n"H nomismatikh enwsh, ypogrammise, "qa prepei na symplhrwqei me thn oikonomikh enwsh alla kai me thn koinwnikh enwsh. Qa prepei na symplhrwqei me politikes anaptyjhs kai anadianomhs eisodhmatwn kai ploytoy, me proypologismo poy ejyphretei aytes tis politikes. Me th "diadikasia ths Lissabonas" anoijame thn prooptikh gia th nea, antagwnistikh Eyrwpaikh oikonomia ths synoxhs kai plhroys apasxolhshs. Me politikes poy synartwntai me th beltiwsh twn koinwnikwn domwn ths eyrwpaikhs koinwnias. Idiaitera me thn ekpaideysh, me thn katapolemhsh ths anergias kai toy koinwnikoy apokleismoy, me enisxysh twn mikrwn kai mesaiwn epixeirhsewn, me beltiwsh ths poiothtas ergasias. Kai poy xwris aytes einai adynaton mia oikonomikh politikh na ginei ajiopisth kai makroproqesma apotelesmatikh. Stoys stoxoys aytoys qa prepei na epimeinoyme, diasfalizontas parallhla thn isorroph anaptyjh oloy toy Eyrwpaikoy xwroy".\n"Sthn idia logikh qa prepei na doyme thn koinh ejwterikh politikh kai thn politikh amynas kai asfaleias.\nH Eyrwpaikh Enwsh prepei na diadramatisei staqeropoihtiko rolo sto dieqnes periballon kai na symbalei sthn anadeijh enos perissotero polykentrikoy kai isorropoy dieqnoys systhmatos. Xreiazetai gi' ayto na apokthsei ola ta mesa kai tis dynatothtes, poy qa ths epitrecoyn na probalei me ajiopistia kai synektikothta thn paroysia ths dieqnws.\nXreiazetai epishs na epanaprosdiorisoyme th sxesh twn eyrwpaikwn qesmwn kai ths eyrwpaikhs koinwnias. Oi qesmoi ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs ofeiloyn na einai apodektoi apo thn koinwnia. Tote mono einai qesmoi nomimopoihmenoi kai apotelesmatikoi ws pros thn apodoxh kai efarmogh twn epilogwn toys ek meroys ths koinwnias. Ayto shmainei politikes diadikasies, pio konta ston polith, pio ameses, pio katanohtes.\nOi nees politikes qa odhghsoyn sthn wrimansh ths anagkaiothtas gia thn omospondia. Oxi ws syllhch poy protrexei twn kairwn h ws synqhma, alla ws mia adhrith anagkh poy prokyptei kai epiballetai apo tis ejelijeis".\n"Ola deixnoyn, oso pote allote, oti briskomaste mprosta se dilhmmata. Se proklhseis kai nees anagkaiothtes. Qeloyme h den qeloyme mia Eyrwph pio isxyrh, wste na einai apotelesmatikos polos isorropias sto dieqnes systhma; Exoyme h den exoyme anagkh apo ena isxyro politiko kentro dipla sthn ONE kai toys mhxanismoys ths, alla kai apenanti sta problhmata poy genna h pagkosmiopoihsh; Mporei h shmerinh politikh organwsh ths Enwshs na diakybernhsei thn Enwsh twn 27 apotelesmatika; Mporei ayth h Enwsh na erqei pio konta ston polith, na ekfrazei ton polith; Prepei pali na kinhqoyme pros ta empros. Oi proklhseis poy antimetwpizoyme apaitoyn "perissoterh, oxi ligoterh Eyrwph".\nQelw omws na tonisw: Protagma einai oi anagkes mas, to periexomeno kai h taytothta ths atomikhs kai syllogikhs mas zwhs sthn Enwsh kai meta to qesmiko epoikodomhma poy qa tis yphrethsei. Prepei prwta na symfwnhsoyme, gia tis meizones politikes epiloges poy qeloyme gia thn ayrianh Eyrwph kai sth synexeia na anazhthsoyme kai na syzhthsoyme poies qesmikes lyseis antapokrinontai s' aytoys toys stoxoys", tonise.\n"Me th symmetoxh mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh dieyrynoyme diarkws tis dynatothtes kai tis prooptikes ths xwras mas, ths koinwnias mas, twn politwn mas. Ths genias poy erxetai. H empeiria edeije oti oso pio konta plhsiazoyme ston pyrhna ths politikhs ejoysias ths Enwshs, oso pio apotelesmatika enswmatwnoyme tis politikes ths, toso perissotero ayjanoyme thn ikanothta mas na ephreazoyme ejelijeis, na isxyropoioyme thn Ellada, na megistopoioyme ta ofelh gia ton Ellhniko lao.\nH Ellada, ws meros ths Eyrwzwnhs, antimetwpizei twra nees proklhseis, alla exei kai nees eykairies. Exoyme ena orama gia th xwra. Na oloklhrwsoyme oles tis diarqrwtikes allages kai tis anagkaies eksygxronistikes tomes, wste na sygklinoyme se oloys toys tomeis pros ta antistoixa epipeda twn aneptygmenwn koinwniwn ths Enwshs. Na diamorfwsoyme mia nea pragmatikothta anaptyjhs kai eyhmerias gia oloys, prosferontas olo kai perissoteres dynatothtes, diasfalizontas synexws thn koinwnikh synoxh kai thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh. Na ajiopoihsoyme swsta toys poroys toy G' K.P.S., wste na dhmioyrghsoyme tis qetikes proypoqeseis gia koinotikes xrhmatodothseis kai meta to 2006. Na oloklhrwsoyme thn entajiakh prooptikh ths Kyproy. Na anadeiknyoyme, se kaqe eykairia, thn Ellada se qematofylaka ths eirhnhs, se polo anaptyjhs kai synergasias sta Balkania.\nExoyme ena orama gia thn Eyrwph. Na th metasxhmatisoyme se organismo poy qa megistopoiei ta ofelh gia tis koinwnies ths. Poy q' antapokrinetai pio apotelesmatika sta aithmata twn politwn ths kai sto koinwniko montelo poy epizhtoyn. Poy qa kanei akomh pio peistika prajh tis ajies panw stis opoies exei oikodomhqei: Ths Dhmokratias, ths Eleyqerias, ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs. Poy qa sygkrotei ena oloklhrwmeno systhma eirhnhs kai asfaleias panw stis arxes toy dieqnoys dikaioy. Qeloyme mia isxyrh Eyrwph, epeidh qeloyme mia isxyrh Ellada.\nEmeis qa synexisoyme na ergazomaste gia to mellon ths Elladas. Qa doylecoyme taytoxrona kai gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs. Ta eikosi xronia poy perasan edeijan oti h tyxh mas einai koinh", eipe.\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:51 UTC+2)\nSynexisthke gia allh mia agwnistikh h epelash toy Aigalew... Kerdise ektos edras ton Panaigialeio me 0-1, sto plaisio ths 24hs agwnistikhs kai edraiwqhke sthn prwth qesh ths baqmologias ths A' kathgorias. H Kalamaria petyxe spoydaia nikh me 1-0 epi toy Paneleysiniakoy, enw megalh ektos edras nikh petyxe kai o Panserraikos epi toy Apollwna Aqhnwn me 1-2.\nAnalytika ta apotelesmata exoyn ws ejhs:\nAgios Nikolaos-Akrathtos 2-1\nProodeytikh-Olympiakos Boloy 2-1\nAyrio stis 16:00 qa diejaxqei sto ghpedo toy Argoys h anametrhsh ths Kabalas me thn Kalliqea.\nH baqmologia meta ta shmerina paixnidia exoyn ws ejhs: Aigalew 56, Akrathtos 45, Proodeytikh 39, Kalamaria 39, Panserraikos 36, Panaitwlikos 35, Agios Nikolaos 35, Olympiakos Boloy 34, Panaigialeios 31, Naypaktiakos 30, Apollwn 30, Kabala 28, Larisa 27, Kalliqea 26, Trikala 25, Paneleysiniakos 16.\nSkopia, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:44 UTC+2)\nSthn perioxh Gkratsani, sta synora ths PGDM me to Kossyfopedio yphrje kai shmera antallagh pyrwn anamesa stoys Albanoys ejtremistes kai tis dynameis ths PGDM, opws metedwse o radiostaqmos twn Skopiwn.\nStratiwtikes phges apo ta Skopia aneferan oti xqes Albanoi ejtremistes eisebalan sto edafos ths PGDM kai epiteqhkan se monada toy skopianoy stratoy poy briskotan sta boreia synora. Meta apo polywres sygkroyseis meros twn Albanwn antartwn epestrece sto Kosobo, enw alloi paremeinan sto edafos ths PGDM ypoxwrwntas se daswdh perioxh.\nSto metajy sto Tetobo metebh shmera o Genikos Eisaggeleas ths PGDM Stabre Tzikof, ston opoio qa prepei na doqoyn sygkekrimena stoixeia gia ta atoma poy synelhfqhsan me thn ypocia oti symmeteixan se tromokratikes drasthriothtes.\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:41 UTC+2)\nMegalh se ektash nikh petyxe to Lewnidio epi toy Ialysoy me 8-1. Th glykia geysh ths nikhs geythke kai h Xalkhdona epi toy Axarnaikoy me 2-1 sto plaisio ths 23hs agwnistikhs toy prwtaqlhmatos ths B' kathgorias.\nAyrio qa ginoyn ta paixnidia:\nLykoi-Apollwn Kryas Bryshs\nH baqmologia meta ta shmerina paixnidia: Patraikos 55, Lewnidio 48, Eqnikos 47, Xalkhdona 45, Atromhtos 42, Marko 37, Naoysa 36, Apollwn Kryas Bryshs 34, Axarnaikos 31, Kozanh 26, Kilkisiakos 25, Lamia 24, Beroia 24, Anagennhsh Karditsas 23, Ampelokhpoi 20, Lykoi 16, Pierikos 13, Ialysos 10.\nApo ton Ialyso exoyn afaireqei 3 baqmoi, enw h Beroia exei 2 mhdenismoys kai -3 baqmoys.\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:37 UTC+2)\nKritikh sthn kybernhtikh politikh askhse o proedros toy DHKKI Dhmhtrhs Tsobolas milwntas sth synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy kommatos.\nO k. Tsobolas xarakthrise istorikh anagkaiothta thn koinh drash twn aristerwn dynamewn se zhthmata aixmhs.\n"Apotelei istorikh anagkaiothta h anasygkrothsh toy eyryteroy proodeytikoy dhmokratikoy kai aristeroy xwroy me apwterh katalhjh th dhmioyrgia enos eniaioy agwnistikoy metwpoy h enos anendotoy antineofileleyqeroy metwpoy. Epiballetai me alla logia h diamorfwsh bhma pros bhma mias laikhs enothtas apo th bash", ypogrammise, metajy allwn o k. Tsobolas.\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:29 UTC+2)\nQetika ektimatai apo thn hgesia ths Neas Dhmokratias h prwth antidrash toy Giwrgoy Soyflia sthn prosklhsh poy toy aphyqyne o Kwstas Karamanlhs gia epanentajh sto komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.\nO ekproswpos typoy ths Neas Dhmokratias Qeodwros Roysopoylos sxoliazontas thn apanthsh toy k. Soyflia tonise: "Opws eipe o Proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias xqes, einai adianohto to parelqon na skiazei to mellon. H shmerinh dhlwsh toy Giwrgoy Soyflia einai pros th swsth kateyqynsh. Oi portes ths Neas Dhmokratias einai anoixtes".\nArketoi, wstoso apo toys Synedroys ths N.D. aneferan oti qa perimenan mia pio safh dhlwsh apo thn pleyra toy k. Soyflia.\n OI ELLHNOBOYLGARIKES SXESEIS STO EPIKENTRO DIEQNOYS SYNEDRIOY STH QESSLONIKH\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:28 UTC+2)\nSynexisthkan shmera gia deyterh hmera oi ergasies toy dieqnoys synedrioy poy diorganwnei to Idryma Meletwn Xersonhsoy toy Aimoy se synergasia me to Institoyto ths Boylgarikhs Akadhmias Episthmwn me qema "Politikes, pneymatikes kai politistikes sxeseis metajy twn Ellhnwn kai twn Boylgarwn". Sth diarkeia ths shmerinhs hmeras oi eishghtes estiasan thn prosoxh toys sthn poreia kai ejelijh twn ellhnoboylgarikwn sxesewn kata ton prohgoymeno aiwna.\nO lektoras ths Filosofikhs Sxolhs toy Aristoteleioy Panepisthmioy Qessalonikhs (APQ), Spyros Sfetas, anaferqhke sthn epidrash ths ellhnikhs paideias sthn pneymatikh kai politistikh zwh twn Boylgarwn, epishmainontas ton tropo me ton opoio oi Boylgaroi dianooymenoi eidan aythn thn epidrash kata ton 19o aiwna.\nSth synqhkh toy Neigy kai stis synepeies ths gia toys laoys twn dyo xwrwn kai ton tropo me ton opoio paroysiasthke sto boylgariko typo, anaferqhke h Mariana Giobefska, tonizontas oti oi probleceis gia thn amesws epomenh periodo kai gia tis ellhnoboylgarikes sxeseis argotera epibebaiwqhkan.\nO presbeyths ths Boylgarias sthn Aqhna, Kiril Topalwf, periegrace kai anelyse thn epidrash kai thn paroysiash twn laikwn paradosewn sthn episthmh amfoterwn twn xwrwn kata ton 19o aiwna, me apwtero stoxo na diafwtisei me th sygkrish toy shmantikes ptyxes twn sxesewn poy anaptyxqhkan sto perasma toy xronoy metajy toys.\nStis ellhnoboylgarikes politikes sxeseis kai stis prooptikes toys epikentrwqhke o episthmonikos synergaths toy Institoytoy ths Sofias, Apostolos Xristakoydhs, epishmainontas oti sth diarkeia 1997-2000 h ellhnoboylgarikh synergasia anadeiknyetai se staqeropoihtiko paragonta sta Balkania.\nH ereynhtria Aikaterina Nikoba, anazhthse tis omoiothtes kai tis diafores stis eksygxronistikes prospaqeies poy epixeirhqhkan stis dyo xwres ta teleytaia xronia prokeimenoy na perigracei kai na ejhghsei th qesh toys sth dieqnh politikh skhnh sth dysh toy 20oy aiwna.\nQessalonikh, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:05 UTC+2)\nFtwxoteros einai apo shmera o pagkosmios stibos. O Ispanos maraqwnodromos, Ntiegko Gkarsia peqane kata thn diarkeia proponhshs se hlikia 39 etwn apo kardiako epeisodio. Metajy twn epityxiwn toy htan to ashmenio metallio sto eyrwpaiko prwtaqlhma toy Elsinki.\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (20:01 UTC+2)\nApodexqhke o Giwrgos Soyflias emmesws thn prosklhsh gia epenentajh sth N.D. poy toy aphyqyne o Kwstas Karamanlhs xwris omws na dieykrinisei pote qa epistrecei sto komma.\nSe dhlwsh toy o k. Soyflias epishmainei: "Ektimw eilikrina tis dhlwseis toy proedroy ths Neas Dhmokratias. Qelw epishs na eyxaristhsw apo kardias toys synedroys poy me tis ekdhlwseis toys me sygklonisan.\nMe aisqhma eyqynhs gia ton topo qelw na dhlwsw oti me briskei symfwno h qesh toy proedroy ths Neas Dhmokratias oti me gennaiothta prepei na koitazoyme to mellon.\nEkeino poy proexei einai to mellon ths xwras kai fysika kai ths paratajhs tis arxes ths opoias me synepeia yphrethsa me tis prajeis kai tis dhlwseis moy".\nAqhna, 31 Martioy 2001 (19:59 UTC+2)\nEntatikes prospaqeies katabaloyn oi ypeyqynoi toy "Eleyqerios Benizelos" kai ths Olympiakhs gia na jeperastoyn oi dysleitoyrgies poy exoyn paroysiastei.\nH Olympiakh akyrwse 23 pthseis eswterikoy kai ejwterikoy prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei thn katastash. Opws anakoinwse periorizei to shmerino ths programma gia epixeirhsiakoys logoys akyrwnontas 17 pthseis gia to eswteriko kai 6 gia to ejwteriko.\nOi kaqysterhseis stis anaxwrhseis pthsewn synexizontai kai shmera trith mera leitoyrgias toy dieqnoys aerolimena, me apotelesma oi epibates na diamartyrontai.\nH Olympiakh se anakoinwsh ths epishmainei oti stoxos ths einai h ejomalynsh ths epixeirhsiakhs leitoyrgias kai zhta syggnwmh apo to epibatiko koino gia thn talaipwria.\nmpab2html v1.01d run on Saturday, 31 March 2001 - 19:13:48 UTC


url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-11-02\nAqhna, 2 Noembrioy 1999\nKWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na sxoliasete tis sklhres dhlwseis Etzebit, xqes, o opoios -oyte ligo, oyte poly- eipe oti h Ellada exase to dikaiwma ths eggyhtrias dynamhs sthn Kypro, afoy, opws eipe, to prajikophma to 1974 egine apo thn Ellada. Kai eipe, akoma, oti sthn Kypro yparxoyn dyo anejarthta krath kai oti symfwnei apolytws me th grammh thn opoia akoloyqei o Ntenktas.\nREPPAS: Oi dhlwseis toy k. Etzebit oson afora to kypriako problhma exoyn epanalhfqei. Kai sto parelqon exei diatypwsei analoges qeseis. Me ayth thn ennoia, den projenei entypwsh ayto to opoio eipe. Oson afora, omws, to an h Ellada einai eggyhtria, h oxi, dynamh, prepei na pw oti ayto prokalei entypwsh. Einai mia ekplhjh ayth h dhlwsh toy k. Etzebit, doqentos oti me th symfwnia eggyhshs toy 1960 h Ellada xarakthristhke eggyhtria dynamh, paramenei eggyhtria dynamh. Mporw na pw oti h Ellada einai h eggyhtria dynamh, h opoia sebetai ayth thn idiothta poy ths exei apodoqei. H politikh poy akoloyqei gia to Kypriako qema, einai se armonia me tis apofaseis toy OHE, antiqetws me thn politikh ths Toyrkias. Ara, h Ellada oxi mono einai eggyhtria dynamh typikws, oxi mono einai h xwra ekeinh h opoia exei kaqe logo na parakoloyqei, na endiaferetai, na symbalei sth qetikh antimetwpish twn qematwn poy apasxoloyn thn Kypro, einai kai h eggyhtria dynamh, h opoia sthn prajh exei apodeijei oti ekplhrwnei thn ypoxrewsh poy, me th symfwnia toy 1960, exei analabei. Giati h politikh ths kineitai -epanalambanw- sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Einai mia politikh h opoia mporei na pei kaneis oti ayth kat` ejoxhn, efoson efarmostei, eggyatai th lysh toy Kypriakoy qematos kai thn proodo toy kypriakoy laoy se synqhkes eirhnhs, opws oloi epiqymoyme.\nKWNSTANTINIDHS: Einai dynaton o k. Etzebit kai h Toyrkia na kathgorei thn Ellada kai dikaioytai h Toyrkia na qewrei ton eayto ths eggyhtria dynamh ths Kyproy -mia ek twn eggyhtriwn- otan eisebale to ?74 kata tropon epaisxynto kai katestrece thn klhronomia ths Kyproy, skotwse kai atimase Kyprioys; Einai dynaton;\nREPPAS: Ta istorika gegonota einai gnwsta. H Toyrkia diathrei ayto ton titlo, den antapokrinetai, omws, stis ypoxrewseis ths, afoy me thn politikh ths antistrateyetai tis prospaqeies toy OHE gia mia dikaih kai biwsimh lysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos, symfwna me tis apofaseis toy Dieqnoys Organismoy.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Pws einai dynato na ginontai tote synomilies me thn Toyrkia, th stigmh poy o k. Etzebit qetei qema Aigaioy, qetei qema yfalokrhpidas kai epideiknyei adiallajia sto Kypriako; Pws einai dynato na syzhtate me ayth th xwra, otan aytos zhtaei ef` olhs ths ylhs diapragmateyseis; Ola "paketo".\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h Toyrkia paramenei sthn protash ths na antimetwpistoyn ta qemata poy -kata thn apoch ths- yparxoyn stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, mesw mias diadikasias apeyqeias dialogoy. Emeis, exoyme kat` epanalhch diatypwsei th qesh pws den yparxoyn alla qemata, peran ths orioqethshs ths yfalokrhpidas. Kai en pash periptwsei, an h Toyrkia qewrei pws yparxoyn problhmata ta opoia prepei na epilyqoyn metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias, qa prepei na ajiopoihsei toys kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, na anagnwrisei th dikaiodosia toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy, na proxwrhsei se prwtoboylies, mesw twn opoiwn mporei na brei tis apanthseis sta problhmata poy ekeinh qewrei oti yparxoyn. H epikoinwnia metajy twn dyo xwrwn, asfalws, den prokeitai na anakopei. Me thn Toyrkia, opws kai me alles xwres, sto plaisio toy NATO, synyparxoyme. Gnwrizete poly kala oti sto sygxrono kosmo h epikoinwnia metajy twn ekproswpwn twn xwrwn einai mia diadikasia ek twn wn oyk aney, prokeimenoy na antallassontai apoceis, akomh ki an oi pleyres poy synantwntai paramenoyn se qeseis oi opoies den sympiptoyn. Ayth einai mia praktikh, h opoia den nomizw oti briskei kapoion antiqeto. Pisteyoyme oti prepei na eimaste parontes kai na proballoyme, pantoy kai me kaqe tropo, tis qeseis mas. Den exoyme epilejei mia politikh apomonwtismoy, den eimaste monoi mas se ayto ton kosmo. Ayto den shmainei, omws, oti qetoyme se kindyno ta eqnika symferonta. Antiqetws, h energos paroysia mas einai ayth h opoia proaspizetai ta eqnika symferonta. H probolh twn qesewn mas apotelei ek twn wn oyk aney ypoxrewsh, prokeimenoy etsi na prowqhsoyme to eqniko symferon.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, k. Ypoyrge, alla o Toyrkos prwqypoyrgos ta leei ayta. Ti synomilies mporoyme na kanoyme;\nREPPAS: Den gnwrizw na yparxoyn synomilies toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Toyrko Prwqypoyrgo.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn antiproswpeies. Yparxei ellhnikh kai toyrkikh antiproswpeia. Mporei na proxwrhsei kati, otan bgainei o k. Etzebit kai qetei qema Aigaioy, qetei qema...\nREPPAS: Asfalws, otan diatypwnontai aytes oi apoceis den einai dynato na yparxei opoiadhpote proodos. Ayto, omws, einai kati to opoio exei apanthqei, edw kai kairo. Aporw pws qetete erwthma se kati gia to opoio gnwrizete thn apanthsh.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Giati kanoyme synomilies tote, k. Ypoyrge;\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete oti exoyn synanthqei ekproswpoi twn dyo xwrwn, ajiwmatoyxoi, empeirognwmones, yphresiakoi paragontes, poy syzhtoyn sygkekrimena qemata. Den ginetai h syzhthsh epi twn qematwn sta opoia anaferqhkate eseis. Allwste, den einai dynato na yparjei mia tetoia syzhthsh.\nARGYROS: Den einai antifatikh h stash toy prwqypoyrgoy ths Toyrkias, otan yparxei ayto to kalo klima stis sxeseis twn dyo lawn, twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn kai stis oikonomikes sxeseis twn dyo lawn;\nREPPAS: Qelete na xarakthrisw egw th stash toy prwqypoyrgoy ths Toyrkias ws antifatikh; Egw qa elega pws h diatypwsh tetoiwn qesewn einai adikh, giati afenos den antapokrinetai sthn istorikh alhqeia kai afeteroy den antapokrinetai sta sygxrona, pragmatika dedomena. Ara, einai lanqasmenh h politikh poy akoloyqei.\nGEROPOYLOS: Xqes, o ypoyrgos PEXWDE, se o,ti afora tis kataggelies toy boyleyth ths N.D. toy k. Kwstopoyloy gia diafqora, kyriws sto ypoyrgeio toy, paredwse thn ypoqesh sth Dikaiosynh. H kybernhsh protiqetai na akoloyqhsei thn idia taktikh kai gia alloy eidoys kataggelies, se o,ti afora skandala h diafqora sto dhmosio tomea kai idiaiterws gia thn periptwsh twn kataggeliwn poy aforoyn to JYSTO;\nREPPAS: Qymaste oti apo thn prwth stigmh poy syzhthsame sxetika qemata, otan arxise na anadyetai ayto to klima skandalologias to opoio prowqei h N.D., eipame oti einai prwtofanes, einai prwtotypo, einai prwtakoysto, aytos o opoios kataggellei na fobatai th Dikaiosynh kai na thn parakamptei. Aytos poy kataggellei exei thn ypoxrewsh na prosfeygei prwtos sth Dikaiosynh. Kai omws! Diatypwnontai kathgories xwris tekmhriwsh, apo thn pleyra ths N.D. kai xwris na prosfeygoyn sta organa ths Dikaiosynhs aytoi oi opoioi kataggelloyn. Anelabe prwtoboylia o synadelfos k. Laliwths kai apeyqynqhke sth Dikaiosynh, prokeimenoy na epilhfqei toy qematos. Pisteyw oti h apanthsh ayth einai apolyta dikaiologhmenh. Emeis -eipa kai se allh eykairia- qa dinoyme th deoysa apanthsh se kaqe prwtoboylia ths N.D. Den prokeitai na epitrecoyme na skiasei th dhmosia zwh ths xwras kai na th dhlhthriasei, ayto to klima syskotishs twn pragmatikwn qematwn, to opoio epixeirei na dhmioyrghsei h N.D. Asfalws, ta organa ths Dikaiosynhs exoyn to logo se aytes tis periptwseis. Emeis eimaste ekeinoi oi opoioi prwtoi qeloyme, aytoi poy kataggelloyn, na tekmhriwnoyn tis kataggelies toys kai na prosfeygoyn sta organa ths Dikaiosynhs. Na to kanoyn ekeinoi, an einai sigoyroi gia ayta ta opoia anaferoyn. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, emeis qa prajoyme analogws.\nFILHS: Sxetika me th diadikasia twn eyrwtoyrkikwn: Yparxoyn plhrofories oti diapistwnetai mia diafora sthn proseggish twn qematwn, anamesa sthn Aqhna kai th Leykwsia kai oti sxetikws exei apostalei kai kapoia epistolh toy Proedroy Klhridh ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. Ti apantate gi ayta;\nREPPAS: Exei apostalei epistolh toy k. Klhridh, edw kai merikes ebdomades, ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo, h opoia den exei kamia sxesh me ayto to opoio onomasate eseis klima apostasiopoihshs Aqhnas-Leykwsias. Antiqetws, mporw -gia mia akomh fora- na pw oti oi sxeseis Aqhnas-Leykwsias, einai sxeseis staqerhs kai gonimhs synergasias, prokeimenoy na petyxoyme ta kalytera dynata apotelesmata. Enocei, malista, ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Elsinki, h agwnia kai h prospaqeia kai twn dyo kybernhsewn sygklinei akribws sto na epityxoyme to aristo apotelesma yper twn eqnikwn symferontwn, poy metajy twn allwn den mporei para na perilambanei thn aproskopth proodo twn entajiakwn diadikasiwn ths Kyproy, pragma gia to opoio exoyme, jekaqara kai se oloys toys tonoys, diatypwsei th qesh mas.\nFILHS: Poios apotelei shmera ton, kata kapoio tropo, antikatastath toy makarith toy Kranidiwth sto lepto rolo twn sxesewn anamesa se Leykwsia kai Aqhna; Qesmika poios exei ayth thn armodiothta;\nREPPAS: O Giannos Kranidiwths htan ypoyrgos Anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn. Ypoyrgos Anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn einai o Xrhstos Rokofyllos. Exei tis armodiothtes tis opoies askhse kata thn periodo ths qhteias toy o Giannos Kranidiwths.\nFILHS: H episkech toy k. Klinton sthn Ellada synartatai -qa ginei syzhthsh sto plaisio aytwn twn proetoimasiwn, alla kai ths episkechs- me qemata promhqeias oplwn apo thn Amerikh;\nREPPAS: Sto plaisio ths episkechs ayths, eipa kat` epanalhch, qa syzhthqoyn qemata koinoy endiaferontos. Qemata koinoy endiaferontos einai kai ayta ths oikonomikhs kai stratiwtikhs synergasias, opws epishs qemata politikhs synergasias. Oi dyo pleyres, sto plaisio aytwn twn syzhthsewn, qa apofasisoyn poia qemata qewroyn oti einai wrima pros syzhthsh kai prepei na syzhthqoyn. Einai qemata ta opoia apasxoloyn idiaiterws tis dyo xwres h th mia ek twn dyo, wste na qewreitai aparaithth h syzhthsh toys. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, peran twn qematwn koinoy endiaferontos, qa syzhthqoyn kai qemata ths eyryterhs perioxhs gia ta opoia, epishs, sas exw milhsei.\nFILHS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos, xqes, me kapoio tono proeidopoihshs, eipe oti oydeis mporei na afairesei apo to ypoyrgeio toy armodiothtes, poy aforoyn ta ejoplistika programmata, sxoliazontas dhmosieymata, symfwna me ta opoia, o Prwqypoyrgos protiqetai, skeftetai, sxediazei na systhsei eidikh genikh grammateia ejoplismwn, h opoia na ypagetai ston ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn k. Xristodoylakh. Prosqese o k. Tsoxatzopoylos -kai ayto exei shmasia giati einai mia ektimhsh toy kat` ejoxhn armodioy ypoyrgoy- oti to teleytaio diasthma parathreitai kaqysterhsh sto ejoplistiko programma, poy exei na kanei me to gegonos oti den exoyn ejeyreqei apo to armodio ypoyrgeio ta xrhmata gia thn agora twn oplwn. Qa hqela kapoio sxolio.\nREPPAS: Exete ypoch sas oloklhrh th dhlwsh toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy gia ayto to qema, o opoios epishmainei oti profanws gia thn ejeyresh twn oikonomikwn porwn leitoyrgei kapoia sxetikh yphresia sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. Pragmati peri aytoy prokeitai. To ejoplistiko programma to diaxeirizetai h Genikh Dieyqynsh Ejoplismwn, poy exei idryqei kai leitoyrgei sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn den yparxei Eidikh Grammateia, oyte Genikh Dieyqynsh, oyte kan tmhma. Leitoyrgei ena grafeio, me liga stelexh, poy exei ws antikeimeno thn katallhloterh anazhthsh twn porwn poy apaitoyntai, mesw daneiwn h allwn diadikasiwn, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei to ejoplistiko programma. Peri aytoy prokeitai. Den prokeitai gia ypokatastash sto rolo toys, twn yphresiwn poy leitoyrgoyn, hdh, gia to poly sygkekrimeno ayto qema sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. To ejoplistiko programma proxwra kanonika me bash tis apofaseis poy exoyme parei kai pisteyw oti qa oloklhrwqei entos twn xronikwn ejaggeliwn poy exoyme kanei.\nFILHS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos leei oti kaqysterei.\nREPPAS: To programma proxwra kanonika. Den yparxoyn kaqysterhseis tetoies, oi opoies mporei na qewrhqei apo kapoion oti mas exoyn odhghsei ektos programmatismoy. To qema toy xronoy polloi to proseggizoyn me poly sxetiko tropo. To gnwrizete poly kala.\nMIXAHL: Xqes, eixame to tragiko symban sto SUPER FERRY III. Qelw na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh kai o armodios ypoyrgos protiqetai na diatajei Enorkh Dioikhtikh Ejetash gia to pws oi laqrometanastes, oi opoioi dystyxws brhkan tragiko qanato, breqhkan sto ploio. Dhladh, h eyqynh na ejelqei kapoios apo th xwra einai stis armodies arxes poy prepei na elegxoyn poios mpainei kai poios bgainei. Pws, loipon, aytoi den elexqhsan kai an elexqhsan pws den to hjeran eyqys ej arxhs oi armodies arxes kai anakalyfqhkan xqes;\nREPPAS: Yparxoyn yphresies poy exoyn thn armodiothta ayth, alla kai oi idies oi etaireies -kat` ejoxhn oi yphresies aytwn twn etaireiwn- probainoyn se sxetiko elegxo. Sto sygkekrimeno ploio yphrxan 110 megala forthga, ntalikes. O elegxos poy pantote ginetai, syxna apodidei. Merikes fores, omws, einai dynaton kapoioi na diafygoyn apo ton elegxo. An prepei na elegxqei me kaqe leptomereia kai aysthrothta ena tetoio dromologio me tosa polla forthga, opws me exoyn plhroforhsei oi armodioi, qa prepei sth sygkekrimenh grammh na exoyme ena mono dromologio kaqe dyo h treis hmeres. Bebaiws, einai lyphrh ayth h ejelijh, ayta ta fainomena na xanoyn th zwh toys anqrwpoi sthn prospaqeia toys na anazhthsoyn kalyterh zwh. Einai tragika symbanta, ta opoia mas lypoyn. O elegxos ginetai. Sto limani ths Patras lambanontai ola ta metra. Alla, panta yparxei ayto to periqwrio kapoioi na diafygoyn. Ayth einai h alhqeia. Allwste, breqhkan laqrometanastes, oi opoioi eixan hdh eiselqei sthn Ellada kai epibibasthkan kai sto ploio, poy shmainei oti eixan diafygei ths prosoxhs kapoiwn elegktikwn mhxanismwn.\nFILHS: Den bazoyn pantoy "narkopedia";\nREPPAS: Eidate, k. Filh, poy shmera eirwneyeste sto keimeno sas, to oti ekana mia syndesh me to genikotero problhma ths laqrometanasteyshs; Yparxei problhma, oson afora ton elegxo twn laqrometanastwn kai prepei na to anagnwrisete.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Jefrago ampeli, dhladh. Mpainoyn, bgainoyn...\nFILHS: Balte narkopedia pantoy!!\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete oti den einai ayth h epilogh mas. Epilogh mas einai na asfalisoyme ta synora ths xwras, giati, bebaiws, opws kaqe xwra kai h dikh mas exei synora. Kai prepei na to apodexqeite ayto. Den einai xwra sthn opoia mporei na eiserxetai o kaqenas paranomws. Den nomizw na exete antiqeth apoch.\nARGYROS: Eginan safeis dieykriniseis apo thn pleyra ths Agkyras dioloy antifatikes. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean paramenei to idio safhs h ellhnikh qesh, symfwna me thn opoia den qa apodexqei prowqhsh twn eyrwtoyrkikwn sxesewn, ean h Agkyra den allajei th qesh ths.\nREPPAS: Molis, xqes, ekana sxetikh dhlwsh gia thn politikh stash mas enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Elsinki. Den exoyme na prosqesoyme tipota allo. Paramenoyme se ayto.\nI.XASAPOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos edwse synenteyjh sthn Kypro kai sas metaferw kapoies fraseis, poy lene oti h kybernhsh exei dhmioyrghsei ena klima oti sto Elsinki qa endwsei. Kai sthn periptwsh -leei- poy qa endwsei h Kybernhsh giati den to eipe. Kai afhnei yponooymena oti symboyloi toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn mporei na einai kai praktores. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.\nREPPAS: Einai oi apoceis toy k. Pagkaloy. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei safh politikh, h opoia otan diatypwqhke kai anakoinwqhke den eprepe na afhsei kanena periqwrio, peri toy endexomenoy na endwsoyme, sth Synodo Koryfhs sto Elsinki, se opoiesdhpote pieseis kai na apostoyme apo tis qeseis, tis opoies pagiws yposthrizoyme. Oson afora tis qeseis toy k. Pagkaloy, poy kat` epanalhch o idios diatypwnei gia stelexh toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, prepei na pw oti einai mia apoch poy den einai dikaiologhmenh. Giati sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ta stelexh ergazontai me ton kalytero tropo, kopiazoyn prokeimenoy na proetoimazoyn fakeloys, na diatypwnoyn protaseis, tis opoies qa ajiopoihsei h politikh hgesia, wste h Ellada na einai efodiasmenh, na einai panoplh, kata tis syzhthseis poy ginontai sto plaisio aytwn twn shmantikwn Synodwn. Ara, loipon, den einai h ellhnikh kybernhsh poy exei kallierghsei mia tetoia entypwsh. Mporei na exoyn grafei polla, alla parakalw gi ayta poy grafontai, mhn anazhtate toys ypeyqynoys sthn kybernhsh.\nFILHS: Eipate oti den einai dikaiologhmenh h apoch toy k. Pagkaloy, oti yparxoyn "praktores" symboyloi toy k. Papandreoy. Aytos einai o isxyrismos. .O Prwqypoyrgos, poy einai ypeyqynos kai gia th leitoyrgia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, den aisqanetai thn anagkh na kalesei ton k. Pagkalo, se mia politikh diadikasia gia na apodeijei poioi einai aytoi oi praktores, apo toys opoioys kata th gnwmh toy kindyneyei h Ellada;\nREPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos den einai dikasths. H politikh syzhthsh -mias kai miloysame gia ta organa ths Dikaiosynhs prin- ginetai me ton tropo poy kaqe fora to sygkekrimeno politiko stelexos epilegei na thn kanei. O k. Pagkalos einai melos toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK, einai probeblhmeno stelexos toy PASOK, exei diatelesei melos ths kybernhshs gia polla xronia kai exei thn eyqynh twn oswn leei. O Prwqypoyrgos einai aytos, poy se teleytaia analysh, askei thn politikh ths xwras kai ston tomea ayto kai aytos pairnei tis telikes apofaseis. Ayth einai h apanthsh. Opoios exei na pei kati pio sygkekrimeno mporei na to tekmhriwsei, pairnontas kai olh thn eyqynh aytwn poy leei. Alla, antilambaneste pws tetoioy eidoys syzhthseis, oyte to eqniko symferon prowqoyn, oyte kat` elaxiston bohqoyn ton ellhniko lao na plhroforhqei gia qemata leitoyrgias twn dhmosiwn yphresiwn, poly perissotero otan aytes oi dhmosies yphresies anhkoyn s` enan neyralgiko tomea, opws einai to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.\nFILHS: Isxyei h protroph poy exete kanei sta stelexh ths N.D. poy kanoyn kataggelies gia skandala, k.lp. Isxyei h idia protroph kai gia ton k. Pagkalo na paei sth Dikaiosynh gi aytes tis kataggelies toy;\nREPPAS: Sas prolaba kai apanthsa me thn prwth protash, sthn prohgoymenh apanthsh moy.\nI. KAMPOYRAKHS: Eisaste se qesh na anakoinwsete kati gia th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Amerikano presbh k. Mperns;\nREPPAS: Den yparxei tipota neotero. Egine syzhthsh, xqes edw. Eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos, enocei ths episkechs toy k. Klinton, qa dexqei ton Amerikano presbh, synhqizetai ayto. H syzhthsh eixe ayto to antikeimeno. Den exei prokycei kati allo poy na einai pros anakoinwsh, oson afora thn episkech.\nI. KAMPOYRAKHS: Yparxei kati newtero gia thn atzenta twn synomiliwn;\nREPPAS: Den exei prokycei kati newtero, to opoio na einai pros anakoinwsh.\nPODHMATA: Pote qa einai se qesh h kybernhsh na anakoinwsei to oristiko programma toy Amerikanoy Proedroy;\nREPPAS: Otan katartistei plhrws to programma ayto.\nPODHMATA: Pragma to opoio pote qa symbei;\nREPPAS: Einai qema twn epomenwn ligwn hmerwn.\nBOYZAS: Xqes, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, gia ta proedrika, ekane mia dhlwsh poy leei oti opoios prospaqei na empodisei thn ekfrash twn apocewn kai to dialogo, kindyneyei na ekqesei to PASOK, oti dhqen protima thn prowrh prosfygh stis ekloges apo thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Qa hqela ena sxolio gia ayto.\nREPPAS: Ti sxolio; Yparxei periorismos oson afora to dikaiwma twn stelexwn na miloyn; Ma, molis prin apanthsa. Me egkaleite peripoy, giati den lambanontai kapoia metra me aformh tis dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy. Asfalws ta stelexh lene eleyqera tis apoceis toys. Ayto einai anafaireto dikaiwma . Oydeis skeptetai na epibalei opoiasdhpote morfhs periorismo. Apo kei kai pera emeis pisteyoyme oti h Boylh ayth mporei -kai prepei- na eklejei Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Kai bebaiws qa prepei na oloklhrwsoyme me epityxia thn prospaqeia poy kanoyme gia arketa xronia na entaxqei h Ellada sthn ONE kai na odhghqei h xwra se ekloges, meta thn oloklhrwsh ths tetraetoys qhteias ths kybernhshs, to Septembrio toy 2000.\nGEROPOYLOS: Ton Prwqypoyrgo den ton problhmatizei to gegonos oti dyo koryfaia stelexh ths kybernhshs, opws o k. Tsoxatzopoylos kai o k. Benizelos, eixan mia dhmosia antiparaqesh epi ths oysias gia th strathgikh toy kybernwntos kommatos h gia th strathgikh ths kybernhshs kai toys stoxoys ths;\nREPPAS: H strathgikh ths kybernhshs sthn politikh poy akoloyqei exei apofasistei sta kybernhtika organa kai thn telikh eyqynh thn exei o Prwqypoyrgos. O Prwqypoyrgos problhmatizetai gia ta qemata poy yparxoyn kai zhtoyn lysh. Ayta kyriws ton apasxoloyn. Ayto poy apotelei kentriko qema gia ton polith sthn kaqhmerinh zwh toy, ayto einai kai to stoixeio h h phgh problhmatismoy kai gia mas. Sta megala qemata poy apasxoloyn th xwra, apo ta opoia krinetai h poreia ths Elladas ta epomena xronia, epikentrwnetai to endiaferon mas. Ayta mas apasxoloyn kai oi problhmatismoi mas exoyn sxesh me ta qemata ayta.\nPODHMATA: Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh h ekpefrasmenh proqesh ths Neolaias toy PASOK na symmetasxei stis ekdhlwseis...\nREPPAS: Apanthsa prin apo meres sthn idia ayth erwthsh.\nPODHMATA: Prin apo meres; Kai ti eipate...\nREPPAS: Oti h Neolaia PASOK exei tis apoceis, exei tis qeseis ths. Leitoyrgei me bash to Katastatiko ths.\nPODHMATA: Ara, den yparxei qema gia thn kybernhsh, lete.\nREPPAS: Ti qema na yparxei; To oti h Neolaia PASOK exei labei sygkekrimenes apofaseis, ayto dhmioyrgei qema sthn kybernhsh; Ti qema na dhmioyrgei sthn kybernhsh ayto; H kybernhsh exei safh qesh gia thn episkech Klinton. H kybernhsh exei proskalesei ton Proedro twn HPA, o opoios antapodidontas tis episkeceis twn Ellhnwn hgetwn, toy Proedroy ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths xwras mas stis HPA, qa episkefqei thn Ellada tis epomenes hmeres. Qa syzhthqoyn qemata koinoy endiaferontos, qemata ths eyryterhs perioxhs. H Ellada prepei, me kaqe tropo, pantoy kai panta, na leei tis apoceis ths. Ayto qa kanei kai me thn eykairia ths episkechs toy Amerikanoy Proedroy. O k. Klinton einai Proedros mias megalhs dynamhs, poy o rolos ths einai kaqoristikos gia thn ejelijh qematwn poy exoyn zwtikh shmasia gia mas. Ara, einai pros to symferon ths xwras na diathroyme, sto ychlotero dynato epipedo, ayth thn epikoinwnia. Se ayto aposkopoyn oi synanthseis toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy me jenoys hgetes, Proedroys, Prwqypoyrgoys. H energos paroysia ths Elladas einai stoixeio ths ejwterikhs politikhs mas. Skefteite oti yparxoyn paradosiakoi desmoi me tis HPA, para ta problhmata, tis diafwnies h tis apokliseis poy kata kairoys emfanizontai. Kai ayto einai kati poy den prepei na prokalei ekplhjh kai oyte to krybei kaneis.\nStis HPA yparxei mia akmazoysa ellhnikh omogeneia h opoia apotelei enan kriko stis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Apo kei kai pera emeis exoyme mia paradosh sth filojenia kai thn ypodoxh jenwn hgetwn. Qa apodoqoyn oi deoyses times ston Proedro Klinton. Qewroyme pws qa einai mia poly kalh eykairia h Ellada, sth bash ths isotimias kai ths amoibaias wfeleias, na epidiwjei, kanontas gnwstes tis qeseis ths, na kerdisei yper twn qesewn aytwn kai thn politikh twn HPA. Ayth einai h proseggish mas.\nPODHMATA: Egw den rwthsa ayto.\nREPPAS: Moy dinetai h eykairia na to pw, giati enw ayta einai aposafhnismena gia thn kybernhsh mas, pantote tiqetai to qema, an kapoios poy exei mia diaforetikh proseggish -perissotero h ligotero diaforetikh- prokalei kapoio problhma. Qa qelame oloi na symfwnoyn gia ola ta qemata. Ayto, omws, einai kati poy oydepote egine kai den prokeitai na ginei sto mellon.\nPODHMATA: To gegonos oti h Neolaia PASOK den exei ayth thn proseggish poy molis mas anaptyjate...\nREPPAS: H Neolaia PASOK apo poyqena den prokyptei oti exei diaforetikh proseggish. H Neolaia PASOK exei ta dika ths organa poy apofasizoyn pws qa dhlwsei thn paroysia ths sto plaisio ayths ths episkechs. H Neolaia PASOK oydepote diatypwse qesh yper toy apomonwtismoy. Oydepote diatypwse qesh gia diakoph twn sxesewn me tis HPA.\nFILHS: Poios to leei ayto;\nREPPAS: Exei kanei kapoia tetoia anakoinwsh h Neolaia PASOK;\nFILHS: Oxi, poios to syzhtaei ayto sthn Ellada;\nREPPAS: Epeidh eipa ola ayta, h k. Podhmata, epanerxomenh, rwtaei an h Neolaia toy PASOK h opoia brisketai se diafwnia me ayth thn politikh, enoxlei thn kybernhsh. Sas rwtw: Apo poy prokyptei ayth h diafwnia me ayth thn politikh;\nPODHMATA: Ayto prokyptei apo tis epanalambanomenes topoqethseis hgetikwn stelexwn ths, symfwna me tis opoies qa prepei o laos ths Aqhnas, oi foreis oi diaforoi, na organwnoyn ekdhlwseis diamartyrias sth diarkeia ths paramonhs toy Amerikanoy Proedroy sthn Ellada. Otan kapoios diamartyretai gia thn paramonh enos jenoy ajiwmatoyxoy sthn Ellada, shmainei oti den yioqetei ayth thn proseggish poy mas paroysiasate.\nREPPAS: Kanete laqos. Edw yparxei mia sygxysh. Mperdeyete dyo pragmata: To ena exei sxesh me thn episkech toy k. Klinton, poy kapoioi qeloyn na xarakthristei ws anepiqymhth. To allo exei sxesh me thn anadeijh politikwn qesewn apo polites oi opoioi den exoyn antirrhsh me thn episkech ayth kaqeayth, alla qewroyn pws h episkech einai mia aformh prokeimenoy na diatypwsoyn tis politikes qeseis toys, oi opoies einai antiqetes me thn politikh poy akoloyqei o k. Klinton kai h kybernhsh twn HPA. Den shmainei oti opoios diatypwnei mia apoch, aytomatws dhlwnei pws den epiqymei thn eleysh toy k. Klinton sthn Ellada.\nFILHS: Me toys deyteroys symfwneite eseis;\nREPPAS: Emeis eimaste yper ths politikhs poy aneptyja prin, oso ginetai pio synoptika. Einai allwste mia politikh h opoia ypakoyei sto eqniko symferon poy prepei na sebasteite kai eseis.\nFILHS: Na sebastoyme thn kybernhtikh politikh;\nREPPAS: Thn politikh poy ypakoyei sto eqniko symferon.\nFILHS: Mono h kybernhsh to gnwrizei ayto;\nREPPAS: To gnwrizei o ellhnikos laos o opoios mas krinei oloys.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Milhsate gia apomonwtismo prohgoymenws, qelw na rwthsw ean h qesh toy k. Xrysoxoidh na pane ekdromh to Sabbatokyriako oi Aqhnaioi gia na mhn talaipwrhqoyn einai genikeymenh kybernhtikh qesh;\nREPPAS: Antilambaneste, k. Mpogiopoyle, pws prokaloymai na apanthsw se ena analogo epipedo, me ena analafro sxolio! Kai na pw oti h Aqhna qa einai gemath, afoy eseis ekeino to Sabbatokyriako qa eiste sigoyra edw! H paroysia sas einai toso plhqwrikh, wste qa einai san na mh leipei kaneis!\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Lew oti den qelw na prokalesw krish stis sxeseis sas me ton k. Xrysoxoidh, gi ayto sas kalw.\nREPPAS: O k. Xrysoxoidhs einai Xrysoxoidhs, den einai...Krisoxoidhs! Me ton k. Xrysoxoidh exoyme aristh synergasia, h opoia einai poly paragwgikh. Ola ta alla poy lete, k. Mpogiopoyle, mporei na prosferontai gia feygalees entypwseis, alla den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn politikh.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Tuesday, 2 November 1999 - 19:49:38 UTC


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