url: =Aqhna, 11 Noembrioy 1998\n* Sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio syzhthqhke shmera o Proypologismos toy 1999, o opoios katatiqetai shmera sth Boylh kai qa syzhthqei sta mesa Dekembrioy. Shmeiwnw oti, enw apwtato xroniko orio kataqeshs toy einai to telos Noembrioy, h Kybernhsh proxwrei sthn kataqesh toy Proypologismoy 20 hmeres prin apo to xroniko orio poy htan ypoxrewmenh na to prajei. Ara, exoyme th dynatothta, sto diasthma ayto twn 35 kai pleon hmerwn poy mesolaboyn ews th syzhthsh toy Proypologismoy sth Boylh, na syzhthsoyme -ta kommata, oi foreis, oi Ellhnes polites- ola ta sxetika qemata, prokeimenoy na yparxei mia plhrhs enhmerwsh gia to periexomeno kai tis epidiwjeis poy periexontai sto keimeno toy Proypologismoy toy 1999.\nO Proypologismos einai ena "ergaleio" ths oikonomikhs politikhs. Efarmozoyme ena eniaio diaxroniko programma sygklishs me tis alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs apo to 1994 ews shmera. Exontas ektelesei me synepeia kai pistothta toys Proypologismoys twn etwn poy perasan, mporoyme na milame pleon, me aisiodojia blepontas pros to mellon, gia Proypologismo entajhs ths xwras mas sthn ONE.\nSe oloys toys tomeis -ston tomea ths anaptyjhs, ton tomea ths oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs sygklishs me tis alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, ton tomea ths diasfalishs ths koinwnikhs synoxhs h ths askhshs koinwnikhs politikhs, me thn ayjhsh twn koinwnikwn dapanwn gia thn anakoyfish twn oikonomika asqenesterwn strwmatwn- mporoyme na poyme oti exoyme apolytws epityxh apotelesmata, ola ayta ta xronia. Stoxos mas einai na synexisoyme ayth thn politikh poy odhgei sthn anakoyfish twn laikwn eisodhmatwn, odhgei se megala ofelh gia ton oikogeneiako proypologismo kai enisxyei ton polith-katanalwth, afoy se polla proionta kai yphresies oi times bainoyn meioymenes. Oxi mono den menoyn staqeres, oxi mono o ryqmos ayjhshs twn timwn einai mikros se sxesh me ayton toy parelqontos, alla exoyme kai meiwsh twn timwn yphresiwn kai proiontwn, opws to diapistwnete ki eseis. Ayta einai prwtofanh sthn ellhnikh koinwnia kai oikonomia kai ta epishmainw.\nH prospaqeia poy kanei h Kybernhsh pisteyoyme oti qa oloklhrwqei me thn epiteyjh toy kentrikoy politikoy stoxoy poy exoyme qesei gia thn isotimh entajh mas stis eyrwpaikes diadikasies, dhladh thn entajh mas sthn ONE. H Ellada qa einai plhres melos apo thn 1h Ianoyarioy toy 2001. H apofash ayth pisteyoyme oti qa lhfqei entos toy 2000 sto plaisio twn organwn ths E. E., opws allwste problepetai.\n* Kata th shmerinh syzhthsh o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke sta apotelesmata ths epishmhs episkechs toy sthn Polwnia. Oi dimereis sxeseis me th filh xwra einai poly kales, para thn apostash poy mas xwrizei. Oi politikes sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn einai stenotates. Epidiwkoyme beltiwsh kai twn oikonomikwn sxesewn sto plaisio ths oikonomikhs synergasias mas. Bebaiws, sto plaisio ths E. E. h Polwnia einai apo tis xwres poy endiaferontai idiaitera kai amesa gia th dieyrynsh ths E. E.. Anaptyssontai politikes apo diafores xwres, oi opoies epidiwkoyn na prowqhsoyn ta dika toys symferonta. Emeis xarakthrizoyme ws qetiko to gegonos ths enarjhs twn diapragmateysewn entajhs kai me thn Kypro, enocei aytoy toy neoy kykloy dieyrynshs ths E. E.. Pisteyoyme oti ayto einai ena istoriko gegonos.\n* Sto plaisio ths shmerinhs synedriashs toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, o Ypoyrgos Paideias Gerasimos Arsenhs mas enhmerwse me sygkekrimena stoixeia gia thn politikh sto xwro ths Paideias ypo to fws twn teleytaiwn ejelijewn. Qa moy epitrecete na metaferw edw liga apo ta stoixeia ayta, prokeimenoy na ta exete ypoch sas:\n-O k. Arsenhs eixe prosfata synanthsh me toys Proedroys twn Texnologikwn Ekpaideytikwn Idrymatwn. H katastash sto xwro ayto einai ikanopoihtikh. Meta tis ryqmiseis stis opoies exei proxwrhsei to Ypoyrgeio Paideias ikanopoioyntai xronia aithmata twn kaqhghtwn kai twn spoydastwn twn TEI.\n-Epishs, sthn Krhth egine prosfata synanthsh me toys Prytaneis twn Anwtatwn Ekpaideytikwn Idrymatwn kai syzhthqhkan ta qemata poy ta apasxoloyn.\n-Ayth thn wra parathroyntai problhmata se dyo Anwtata Ekpaideytika Idrymata. Sto Panteio Panepisthmio kai to Polytexneio Krhths. Ta problhmata ayta, kata thn ektimhsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias kai ths Kybernhshs, den exoyn sxesh me tis ekpaideytikes allages poy prowqoyme, alla phgazoyn apo diaforetikes proseggiseis kai tribes sto eswteriko aytwn twn Idrymatwn.\n-Oson afora, to qema ths Prwtobaqmias kai Deyterobaqmias Ekpaideyshs tria einai ta shmeia sta opoia exei epikentrwqei to endiaferon oswn symmetexoyn se ayto to dialogo gia ta problhmata sto xwro ths Paideias:\nTo prwto, afora thn ariqmhtikh synqesh twn tajewn\nTo deytero, afora thn kalych twn qesewn twn ekpaideytikwn kai,\nTo trito, afora thn egkairh prowqhsh twn bibliwn stoys maqhtes.\nOson afora to prwto qema, pragmati, symfwna me ta osa problepei to nomiko plaisio, proxwroyme, opoy einai aparaithto, se symptyjh toy ariqmoy twn maqhtwn se polles tajeis, wste na epityxoyme sth men Prwtobaqmia Ekpaideysh na exoyme kat` anwtato orio 30 maqhtes se mia tajh, se mia aiqoysa, sth de Deyterobaqmia Ekpaideysh na exoyme kat` anwtato orio 35 maqhtes se kaqe tajh. Prepei na sas pw oti eimaste mesa sta oria, ta opoia problepontai se eyrwpaiko epipedo. Sto shmeio ayto qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia mikrh anafora se ariqmoys: Apo tis 46.000 tajeis poy leitoyrgoyn shmera se olh thn Ellada -kai milw gia thn Prwtobaqmia Dhmosia Ekpaideysh- exoyme mono se 73 tajeis, 73 aiqoyses, kapoio sxetiko problhma. Dhladh, stis tajeis aytes -kai gi` ayto milw gia th sxetikothta toy problhmatos- o ariqmos twn maqhtwn proseggizei to anwtato orio. Poyqena den to yperbainei. Ayto einai to qema kai sas to anefera gia na gnwrizete ki eseis poia einai h alhqeia. Oi ariqmoi aytoi twn ana tajh-aiqoysa maqhtwn exei ginei katorqwto na ejasfalistoyn kai briskontai se ikanopoihtika epipeda. Qa elega oti se polles periptwseis einai se xamhlotera epipeda apo ta oria poy exoyn epityxei, gia logoys poy antilambaneste, ta sxoleia ths Idiwtikhs Ekpaideyshs. Exei shmeiwqei, loipon, poly shmantikh proodos.\nOson afora to deytero qema, exoyn ginei polles proslhceis kaqhghtwn. Den yparxoyn kenes organikes qeseis. Ekei poy parathroyntai leitoyrgika kena, ayta exoyn dhmioyrghqei, epeidh oi idioi oi ekpaideytikoi exoyn parei adeia logw asqeneias h gia alles aities. Enapokeitai pleon stis armodies Perifereiakes kai Nomarxiakes Yphresies na kalycoyn ta kena ayta. Exoyn sth diaqesh toys tis analoges pistwseis kai prepei, afoy einai dikh ths armodiothta, na proboyn sthn kalych aytwn twn kenwn.\nOson afora ta biblia, prepei na pw oti apo tis arxes Septembrioy o problepomenos kai kata tis ektimhseis twn armodiwn anagkaios ariqmos bibliwn exei paradoqei sta kentra ths eparxias, apo ta opoia qa eprepe na synexisei th dianomh h armodia yphresia sta kata topoys sxoleia. Shmeiwnw oti ekdoqhkan fetos 82 neoi titloi bibliwn. Ayto htan kati poly shmantiko, isws den exei prohgoymeno sthn ekpaideytikh istoria toy topoy mas. Exoyn dhmioyrghqei kapoia problhmata se poly eidikes periptwseis kai qelw na ejhghsw pws dhmioyrghqhkan ayta ta problhmata. Logw ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs doqhke h dynatothta se maqhtes poy foitoyn se ena orismeno klado, se ena orismeno tmhma, sth Mesh Ekpaideysh na epilejoyn, mexri tis 23 Oktwbrioy, an qa parameinoyn s` ayto ton klado h qa metaphdhsoyn se kapoion allon, apo thn klasikh gia paradeigma sthn Texnikh thn Texnlogikh Ekpaideysh. Oi ariqmoi einai entypwsiakoi: Oson afora thn Texnikh kai Epaggelmatikh Ekpaideysh, ta legomena TEE, enw oi ektimhseis poy eixan ginei problepan oti qa foithsoyn sta sxoleia ayta peripoy 10.000 maqhtes, oi maqhtes oi opoioi ekdhlwsan endiaferon kai exoyn hdh eggrafei gia na foithsoyn s` ayta ta sxoleia jepernoyn tis 40.000. Ayto deixnei oti h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish (poy, metajy twn allwn, epidiwkei na enisxysei thn epaggelmatikh ekpaideysh kai kata proektash th sxesh ths ekpaideyshs me tis pragmatikes anagkes ths koinwnias, me thn paragwgh kai thn oikonomia, wste na exoyn tis aparaithtes gnwseis oi maqhtes ths deyterobaqmias ekpaideyshs kai na mporoyn eykolotera na apasxolhqoyn otan apofoitoyn) epitygxanei. O ariqmos aytos einai apokalyptikos.\nApo ekei kai pera den antilambanomaste thn kinhtopoihsh ayth. Einai apolytws adikaiologhth. Afora paragontes twn opoiwn ta symferonta qigontai apo aytes tis ekpaideytikes allages. Den einai dynaton, den mporei na anhkoyn sto ekpaideytiko kinhma oi foreis, oi opoioi sxediazoyn kai ylopoioyn tetoies kinhtopoihseis, me stoxo na plhgei h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish.\nH ekpaideytikh metarryqmish antapokrinetai se pragmatikes anagkes ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Anadiarqrwnei to ekpaideytiko systhma se kateyqynsh poy einai para poly kairia, krisimh kai xrhsimh gia to mellon ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Kai me ayth thn ennoia, einai adikaiologhtes oi enantiwseis poy ekdhlwnontai. Poly perissotero otan xrhsimopoioyn stoixeia prosxhmatika, dhladh stoixeia poy den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia twn pragmatwn.\n* Shmera, meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, synedriase kai to KYSEA, prokeimenoy na epilejei to neo Arxhgo twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras. Omofwnws, neos Arxhgos epelegh o mexri twra Arxhgos GES, Antistrathgos Manoysos Paragioydakhs. Oi stratiwtikoi syntaktes to gnwrizoyn, alla periorizomai se mia syntomh anafora: H qhteia toy shmerinoy Arxhgoy GEEQA k. Tzogannh ejantleitai kata anwtato orio -afoy paremeine sth qesh ayth gia tria xronia kai den problepetai dynatothta peraiterw paratashs ths qhteias toy- stis 15 Febroyarioy 1999. Symfwna me osa o nomos problepei, h epilogh toy Arxhgoy GEEQA prepei na ginei treis mhnes prwtytera. H epilogh Arxhgwn twn Oplwn ginetai ena mhna prin thn oloklhrwsh ths qhteias twn yphretoyntwn Arxhgwn. Kai kata synepeia, qa prepei na anamenetai to argotero, mexri tis 15 Ianoyarioy, na synedriasei kai pali to KYSEA, gia na kalycei thn kenh qesh toy Arxhgoy GES h na krinei toys alloys Arxhgoys. Pisteyoyme oti h epilogh ayth antapokrinetai stis shmerines anagkes twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. O k. Paragioydakhs exei poly shmantikh paroysia kai prosfora me thn idiothta toy Arxhgoy toy GES, ayta ta xronia. Ston aperxomeno Arxhgo k. Tzogannh, o opoios qa askei ta kaqhkonta toy mexri thn hmera poy qa paradwsei sto neoepilegenta Arxhgo, dhladh stis 15 Febroyarioy, aponemetai o titlos toy epitimoy Arxhgoy GEEQA, gia thn polytimh prosfora toy stis Enoples Dynameis kai thn patrida.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Poios Ypoyrgos sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai gia poies efhmerides eipe oti ypokinoyn tis ekpaideytikes kinhtopoihseis;\nREPPAS: Syzhthqhke ayto to qema, eginan sxolia kai epishmanseis, egine anafora se dhmosieymata. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia, kai kalw kai sas na meinoyme s` ayto to stoixeio, einai to oti stoys treis tomeis, gia toys opoioys polla legontai, dhladh, thn ariqmhtikh synqesh twn tajewn, thn prowqhsh twn bibliwn kai thn kalych twn qesewn apo ekpaideytikoys, exoyn ginei shmantika bhmata apo to Ypoyrgeio Paideias, wste na mh dikaiologeitai h kritikh h opoia askeitai kai poly perissotero na mh dikaiologeitai h kinhtopoihsh poy einai se ejelijh.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: O k. Arsenhs sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio eipe oti h "Kaqhmerinh" kai o "Rizospasths" ypokinoyn tis ekpaideytikes kinhtopoihseis;\nREPPAS: O k. Arsenhs exei kanei kai dhmosiws dhlwseis stis opoies anaferei pws oi kinhtopoihseis aytes -kata th dikh toy apoch- ypokinoyntai apo paragontes twn opoiwn qigontai ta symferonta apo thn proodo kai thn efarmogh ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Den moy apanthsate. Ennoeite oti anaferqhke s` aytes tis efhmerides kai oti ta symferonta twn efhmeridwn aytwn qigontai apo th metarryqmish;\nREPPAS: Den qelw na me ermhneyete, alla antilambaneste ki eseis pws exoyme thn koinh logikh oloi edw pera, wste otan miloyme gia symferonta poy qigontai, na mhn anaferomaste se efhmerides, se ekdotika sygkrothmata, alla na anaferomaste se foreis poy amesws h emmesws emplekontai me thn ekpaideytikh diadikasia. Miloyme, fer` eipein, gia ta polyariqma didaskalia h anepishma "idiwtika panepisthmia", ta opoia logiko einai, logw twn ekpaideytikwn allagwn, na antilambanontai kai na foboyntai pws h drasthriothta toys kai h leitoyrgia toys ta epomena xronia qa syrriknwqei, qa perioristei. Idiws, me to anoigma ths portas twn panepisthmiwn stoys neoys ths patridas mas, mesa apo orismenes proypoqeseis me bash tis diadikasies, oi opoies exoyn chfistei. Ola ayta ta opoia syzhtoyme, ayth thn wra, einai sto nomo gia thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy ejhghsete thn antifash pws einai dynaton, me bash ta epishma stoixeia ta opoia exoyn dhmosieyqei, oi eggrafes sta frontisthria, prwth xronia ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs, na exoyn mia ayjhsh ths tajews toy 30% ews 50%, thn wra poy lete pws h Kybernhsh akribws ekei stoxeyei me thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish. To na fygoyn, dhladh, ta paidia apo ta frontisthria.\nREPPAS: Ayto to sxolio, xwris na exw twra sth diaqesh moy analoga stoixeia, gia to pososto ayjhshs sto opoio eseis anaferqhkate, se genikes grammes antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Exoyme ayth thn prosfygh sthn parallhlh paideia h gia alloys parapaideia. Nomizw, omws, oti to fainomeno ayto einai proskairo. Epeidh akribws eimaste sthn arxh ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs, polloi maqhtes kai goneis, poy den exoyn katanohsei plhrws pws qa ejelixqoyn ta pragmata, anazhtoyn mesw aytwn twn idiwtikwn frontisthriwn na endynamwsoyn th qesh toys. Pisteyoyme oti apo th stigmh poy qa leitoyrghsei o neos qesmos mesa sta sxoleia ths enisxytikhs didaskalias, ths prosqeths dwrean eswsxolikhs bohqeias, qa exoyme mia antistrofh poreia, qa exoyme mia meiwsh, dhladh, twn maqhtwn poy prosfeygoyn sta idiwtika frontisthria. Epishs, kaqws o megalos ogkos twn kaqhghtwn gnwrizei plhrws, pleon, tis allages oi opoies eperxontai sto ekpaideytiko systhma kai ara, mporei na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis toy, pisteyoyme oti to fainomeno ayto qa antimetwpistei. Yparxoyn shmera kataggelies h anafores kai apo maqhtes, oi opoioi miloyn gia kaqhghtes poy toys parotrynoyn na entaxqoyn se frontisthria, prokeimenoy ekei na didaxqoyn kapoia maqhmata poy den einai eykolo, logw twn allagwn poy exoyn epelqei, na ta didaxqoyn apo toys taktikoys kaqhghtes, apo toys kaqhghtes sta sxoleia ths Meshs Ekpaideyshs. Yparxoyn tetoies kataggelies, exoyn parathrhqei tetoia fainomena. Pisteyoyme oti ayth h ayjhsh h opoia einai oriakh, ejhgeitai kai ermhneyetai apo to logo oti eimaste sthn arxh ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs. Poly syntoma to fainomeno ayto qa exei antistrofh fora. Ayth einai h ektimhsh poy kanoyme.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Me aforistiko tropo, sthn arxh, eipate oti osoi symmetexoyn s` aytes tis apolytws adikaiologhtes kinhtopoihseis, den mporei na anhkoyn sto ekpaideytiko kinhma. Hqela na rwthsw, aytoys toys xiliades maqhtes, toys foithtes, toys daskaloys, poy kinhtopoioyntai apo to prwi, toys katatassete sto kinhma twn "marionetwn", apo kapoioys oi opoioi toys ypokinoyn. An den einai ekpaideytiko kinhma, ti einai;\nREPPAS: Pantote h Kybernhsh me eyaisqhsia kai prosoxh parakoloyqei tis apoceis h tis antidraseis apo diafores koinwnikes omades. Poly perissotero tis apoceis kai tis antidraseis poy ekdhlwnontai se ena xwro, o opoios idiaitera mas sygkinei kai mas eyaisqhtopoiei sto xwro ths ekpaideyshs. Apo ekei kai pera qa moy epitrecete na pw, oti sto plaisio aytwn twn kinhtopoihsewn, parathroyntai kai fainomena ta opoia, kaqe allo, para qa prepei na ta dikaiologhsoyme. Isa-isa, qa prepei na ta kaythriasoyme. Egw milhsa gia fainomena, opws einai ayto ths kinhtopoihshs, ta opoia sthrizontai se stoixeia ta opoia eite paraxarazontai, eite aposiwpoyntai, eite en pash periptwsei xrhsimopoioyntai kata tetoio tropo, wste na dikaiologhqoyn oi kinhtopoihseis. Ta stoixeia, sta opoia egw anaferqhka kai mporw na anaferqw kai se polla alla akomh, apodidoyn thn alhqeia. H alhqeia ayth, nomizw oti, efoson ginei gnwsth, qa odhghsei para polloys sto na anaqewrhsoyn th stash toys. Bebaiws, qa yparxoyn kai ekeinoi poy gia alloys logoys qa fwnazoyn ta dika toys synqhmata poy den exoyn sxesh me thn politikh sthn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish. Qa probainoyn se prajeis bias poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn askhsh twn dikaiwmatwn toys kai bebaiws, qa paramenoyn antiqetoi se mia ekpaideytikh metarryqmish apo logoys ideologikoys kai politikoys, pragma, omws, to opoio den qa empodisei th dikh mas politikh na proxwrhsei kai na oloklhrwqei h efarmogh ths. Giati pisteyoyme oti h efarmogh ayths ths metarryqmishs einai pros to kalo twn maqhtwn kai ths koinwnias mas.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dhladh, aytoi oloi poy mazeythkan shmera kai htan to megalytero syllalhthrio poy exei ginei pote sthn Aqhna apo ekpaideytikh koinothta, den gnwrizoyn to kainoyrgio ekpaideytiko systhma; Den exei, dhladh, ginei enhmerwsh; Poios ftaiei poy den to jeroyn an den to jeroyn;\nREPPAS: Gia ola ayta apanthsa. Arkoymai mono na pw pws, an ayto apotelei stoixeio, oti opoioi symmetexoyn se mia kinhtopoihsh shmainei oti den gnwrizoyn tis allages kai gi ayto symmetexoyn, mporw egw ej antidiastolhs na noiwqw thn ikanopoihsh oti oi para polloi perissoteroi poy den symmetexoyn, shmainei oti exoyn antilhfqei plhrws pws akribws exoyn ta pragmata, sto plaisio ths prowqoymenhs ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs. Oyte to ena symbainei, oyte to allo. Prepei na eimaste realistes. Yparxei ena keno enhmerwshs kai plhroforhshs. Ginetai prospaqeia mesw diaforwn drasewn na enhmerwqoyn oi goneis kai oi maqhtes gia tis allages aytes. Pisteyoyme oti einai qema ligoy xronoy, ayth h prospaqeia na oloklhrwqei kai na apodwsei, wste na allajei se megalo baqmo to topio sto xwro ths ekpaideyshs. Kai metajy twn allwn, etsi na antimetwpistoyn kai fainomena san ayta, sta opoia anaferqhke kai o synadelfos sas, gia thn ayjhsh, dhladh, ths eggrafhs maqhtwn se idiwtika frontisthria.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti foreis sxediazoyn kai exoyn stoxo na xtyphqei h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish. Poioi einai aytoi oi foreis; Politikoi einai...\nREPPAS: Anaferqhka kai se ayto. Den anaferqhka;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Poioi einai aytoi; Poioi, yparxoyn kommata pisw apo ayto;\nREPPAS: Apanthsa kai se ayto. Eipa oti h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish qigei kai symferonta. Qigei symferonta ekeinwn poy amesws h emmesws emplekontai sthn ekpaideytikh diadikasia kai diablepoyn oti sto kontino mellon qa syrriknwqei h drasthriothta toys. Oi epixeirhseis toys qa gnwrisoyn krish. Giati h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish janafernei toys maqhtes sto sxoleio -ayto filodojei kai qa to epityxei- prokeimenoy ekei na apoktoyn tis gnwseis poy einai aparaithtes, ws efodia, wste sth synexeia na akoloyqhsoyn tis spoydes sthn Tritobaqmia Ekpaideysh.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Poioi einai aytoi, k. Ypoyrge; Den lete. Sygkekrimena peite poioi;\nREPPAS: Ma, milhsa prin. Den milhsa gia ta legomena idiwtika panepisthmia, gi` ayta ta didakthria, ta didaskaleia, opws ta onomasa; Milhsa gi` ayta, k. Stamatopoyle.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Ta Idiwtika Panepisthmia einai pisw apo ayth thn istoria;\nREPPAS: Ta legomena, eipa, k. Stamatopoyle.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Ta "legomena" Idiwtika Panepisthmia einai pisw apo ayth thn istoria;\nREPPAS: Prepei na parakoloyqeite oles tis apanthseis poy dinw, opws egw parakoloyqw oles tis erwthseis, poy kanete. Sas parakalw na enteinete thn prosoxh sas, wste na exete ypoch sas oles tis erwthseis poy ginontai, giati oi apanthseis poy dinw -prospaqw toylaxiston- einai se armonia me tis erwthseis sas. Otan exw antimetwpisei ena qema se prohgoymenes erwthseis, parakalw na mhn epanerxomaste.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti egine ektimhsh oti 10.000 qa phgainan sta TEE kai phga 40.000. Poios thn ekane ayth thn ektimhsh kai an einai akoma sth qesh toy;\nREPPAS: H ektimhsh ayth egine apo tis armodies yphresies me bash thn istoria. Me bash to poioi htan oi maqhtes poy mexri twra foitoysan se TEL, me bash poioi htan aytoi, oi opoioi foitoysan se alloys kladoys, se alles kathgories twn Lykeiwn. Eixame, logw akribws ths metarryqmishs poy fainetai oti einai elkystikh kai peistikh gia toys neoys ths patridas mas, mia megalh ayjhsh toy ariqmoy twn maqhtwn poy epelejan thn Texnikh Epaggelmatikh Ekpaideysh. Jerete oti xronia twra h ekpaideysh ayth htan peripoy apajiwmenh. Opoioi maqhtes epelegan na foithsoyn sta TEL h se omoeidoys kathgorias sxoleia, antimetwpizontan san maqhtes B' kathgorias. Twra exoyme mia megalh, pragmatika, strofh pros thn Texnikh Epaggelmatikh Ekpaideysh kai ayto einai ena stoixeio to opoio mas ikanopoiei.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Kai aytoi einai armodioi gia thn texnikh ekpaideysh kai paramenoyn stis qeseis toys!\nREPPAS: Asfalws einai. Kai ayto deixnei, poso swsth doyleia exoyn kanei aytoi oi armodioi poy sxediasan thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish, wste na peisoyn toses xiliades maqhtwn na proselqoyn se ayta ta sxoleia, ta opoia, mexri protinos, o megalyteros ariqmos twn maqhtwn ta antimetwpize peripoy me perifronhsh, toys gyrize thn plath, enw twra ta epilegei, dialegei na foithsei se ayta. Ayto einai mia megalh allagh.\nKIAOS: Ayta poy mas eipate prohgoymenws, peri toy problhmatos ths Paideias kl. p., htan toy k. Arsenh, opws ta eipe sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio h ta eipate ws anakoinwsh ths Kybernhshs;\nREPPAS: Htan oi apoceis poy ejefrase o k. Arsenhs sto plaisio ths enhmerwshs. H eishghsh kai h enhmerwsh toy k. Arsenh egine dekth apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Para to oti den htan qema syzhthshs, den eixe problefqei sthn hmerhsia diatajh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy na syzhthqei ena tetoio qema, antilambaneste pws mia kai exoyme apofasisei gia thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish h efarmogh ths mas endiaferei kai mas eyaisqhtopoiei. Kai kata kairoys oloi, gia alla qemata kai gi ayto, qa kanoyme sxetikes syzhthseis.\nKIAOS: Htan eishghsh, htan enhmerwsh toy k. Arsenh, epakoloyqhse syzhthsh, ti akribws egine;\nREPPAS: Eseis pws qelete na to onomasete; Eishghsh, enhmerwsh, mono eishghsh, mono enhmerwsh;\nKIAOS: Eseis qa moy peite. Sas erwtw.\nREPPAS: Ma, eipa prin, den eipa; Xrhsimopoihsa th lejh molis prin. An sas parapemcw sthn apanthsh poy edwsa sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh sas, qa exete thn apanthsh gia thn epomenh erwthsh sas.\nKIAOS: Nai, sas lew: Egine syzhthsh;\nREPPAS: Den egine syzhthsh.\nKIAOS: Ara, dhladh, milhse mono...\nREPPAS: Den htan qema to opoio eixe problefqei na syzhthqei. Den htan grammeno sthn hmerhsia diatajh. Den ta eipa ayta;\nKIAOS: Kai egw qelw na janarwthsw. Ti kako exei ayto;\nREPPAS: Tipota. Epanalambanoyme ta idia.\nKIAOS: Gi` ayto to logo eimaste edw.\nREPPAS: Eisaste edw gia na eisaste edw. Dhladh, gia na parakoloyqeite th syzhthsh, gia na mhn epanerxomaste se qemata gia ta opoia exoyme milhsei.\nKIAOS: Oxi, sas parakalw. Egw qa rwthsw gia na katalabw ti ginetai.\nKIAOS: Ara, den milhsan alloi ypoyrgoi; Mono o k. Arsenhs milhse;\nREPPAS: Etsi opws to lete akribws.\nKIAOS: Ara, dhladh, h ektimhsh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy phgazei apo thn eishghsh toy k. Arsenh kai mono;\nREPPAS: Gia ta qemata ths ekpaideytikhs politikhs, asfalws phgazei apo thn ektimhsh poy kanei o armodios Ypoyrgos. Den einai dynaton na phgazei apo thn ektimhsh poy kanei o Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajews, fer` eipein!\nKIAOS: Chfoforia typikws, me thn typikh ennoia toy oroy, meta thn enhmerwsh den egine sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio.\nREPPAS: Den yphrxe tetoio endexomeno.\nKIAOS: Kati allo. Ta problhmata ths Paideias poy yparxoyn shmera, etsi opws ta ejeqese o armodios Ypoyrgos, einai qema politikhs h xeirismwn ekei poy blepete kapoia problhmata;\nREPPAS: Apla, qa prepei h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish na proxwrhsei me pio gorgoys ryqmoys.\nKIAOS: Oxi, politikhs h xeirismwn;\nREPPAS: H politikh einai gnwsth, exoyme apofasisei gia thn ekpaideytikh politikh. Apo kei kai pera, an ta biblia den exoyn prowqhqei mexri kai to teleytaio sxoleio ths Elladas, enw einai bebaio oti apo tis arxes Septembrioy exoyn paei se ola ta ekpaideytika kentra, se oloys toys nomoys, yparxei kapoio problhma poy prepei na antimetwpistei sygkekrimena. Sthn periptwsh poy exoyme, p. x. problhma oson afora ton ariqmo twn maqhtwn se kapoies tajeis, kai ekei exoyn lhfqei metra. Einai poly mikros o ariqmos twn tajewn ekeinwn poy o ariqmos twn maqhtwn proseggizei to orio poy exoyme qesei. Poyqena alloy den exoyme problhma. Den epitrepetai, loipon, na dhmioyrgeitai mia koinh entypwsh, na yparxei ena genikeymeno symperasma peri twn pollwn maqhtwn se mia tajh. Ayta ta genikeymena symperasmata den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia.\nKIAOS: H Kybernhsh h o armodios Ypoyrgos poy milhse, anhsyxoyn gia ta tektainomena shmera sto xwro ths Paideias;\nREPPAS: Anhsyxoyme gia o, ti symbainei se oloys toys xwroys. Eimaste mia Kybernhsh, h opoia endiaferetai na epityxei to majimoym. Exoyme ychloys stoxoys kai filodojies, exoyme qesei ychla ton phxh, oi stoxoi poy exoyme qesei einai se ena poly ychlo epipedo. Logiko einai, loipon, ola ayta na dhmioyrgoyn antidraseis, problhmata. Logiko einai kai sto xwro ths Paideias na exoyme aytoy toy eidoys toys kradasmoys sthn arxh ths efarmoghs ayths ths neas politikhs, mias kai efarmozetai mia allh politikh. H ekpaideytikh metarryqmish einai mia rizospastikh tomh, einai kati qeamatika diaforetiko apo ayto poy isxye sto parelqon. Den exoyme, omws, apo thn allh pleyra, anhsyxia oson afora thn plhrothta ths politikhs mas. Pantote qa prospaqoyme na kanoyme to kalytero, na antapokriqoyme stis apaithseis poy emeis oi idioi exoyme qesei ston eayto mas.\nMIXAHL: Anhsyxeite to idio gia piqanes epikeimenes agrotikes kinhtopoihseis; Yparxoyn kapoia dhmosieymata to teleytaio kairo kai mia synenteyjh toy k. Pattakh shmera se kapoia efhmerida.\nREPPAS: Anhsyxoyme gia ta panta. Kai otan anhsyxoyme gia ta panta eimaste taytoxrona hsyxoi kai gia ola osa exoyme kanei kai pisteyoyme oti einai orqa. Einai sto plaisio mias politikhs, ths opoias stoxos kai epidiwjh einai na beltiwsei th zwh twn politwn diaforwn koinwnikwn omadwn kai twn agrotwn.\nFASOYLAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to KYSEA mono me thn topoqethsh toy neoy arxhgoy asxolhqhke; Syzhthqhke tipota allo;\nREPPAS: Mono me ayto to qema.\nXASAPOPOYLOS: Apo tis topoqethseis twn Ypoyrgwn gia ton Proypologismo prokyptoyn kapoies, as poyme, diafwnies; Giati o k. Pagkalos ekane mia dhlwsh kai eipe oti o Proypologismos den ton ekfrazei.\nREPPAS: Den gnwrizw ti dhlwsh ekane o k. Pagkalos. Gnwrizw omws oti sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio epi toy qematos aytoy den elabe to logo o k. Pagkalos.\nXASAPOPOYLOS: Stis topoqethseis twn allwn Ypoyrgwn, to symperasma poio einai;\nREPPAS: Den prokyptei opoiadhpote diafwnia, oyte kan apoklish.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Ena diadikastiko gia na mas bohqhsete. Qelw na rwthsw, epeidh eixe kanei sxetikh nyjh o Proedros ths Kybernhshs sto Synedrio toy Kentroy Eyrwpaikoy Syntagmatikoy Dikaioy, qelw na mas peite an exete prosdiorisei pote qa fqasei h Synqhkh toy Amsterntam gia epikyrwsh sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs.\nREPPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, to qema ayto syzhteitai sthn Epitroph Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn ths Boylhs, me thn paroysia kai symmetoxh sth syzhthsh toy Ypoyrgoy Anaplhrwth Ejwterikwn k. Papandreoy. Qa exete mia plhrh enhmerwsh gia to qema ayto. Apo kei kai pera h epikyrwsh ths Synqhkhs sth Boylh exei parei to dromo ths. Einai qema xronoy.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Einai dedomeno oti qa pate se epikyrwsh se epipedo olomeleias;\nREPPAS: Sas eipa oti ola ayta ta qemata exoyn parei to dromo toys. Parakalw na anamenete th syzhthsh poy ginetai sto plaisio ths Epitrophs Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn. Ginetai shmera sthn Ellhnikh Boylh.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, allo sas rwtaw...\nREPPAS: Kai egw sas apanthsa gia ayto to opoio rwtate. Me rwtate, an qa asxolhqei en olomeleia h Boylh gia na epikyrwsei th Synqhkh. Kai sas apantw oti to qema ayto qa to antimetwpisei h Epitroph Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn poy syzhta shmera ayto to qema. H Kybernhsh exei jekaqarisei th qesh ths, qa proxwrhsei sthn epikyrwsh ayths ths Synqhkhs. Tis diadikastikes, leitoyrgikes leptomereies qa tis syzhthsoyme.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: H Kybernhsh qewrei "leptomereia" to an qa epikyrwqei h Synqhkh se epipedo Olomeleias h sto epipedo mias kleisths synedriashs kapoias koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias;\nREPPAS: Den tiqetai tetoio qema...\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Poio qema den tiqetai;\nREPPAS: Kai den einai swsto ayto poy lete, oti sto plaisio mias kleisths epitrophs ginetai dhqen prospaqeia na apofygoyme ta fwta ths dhmosiothtas, wste ekei na epikyrwsoyme mia Synqhkh. Gnwrizete allwste poly kala, oti h megalh, h syntriptikh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn boyleytwn kai twn kommatwn exoyn taxqei yper ths Synqhkhs kai ths proodoy twn diadikasiwn ths eyrwpaikhs enopoihshs. Ara, "paizete en oy paiktois". Mhn epimenete s` ayto to qema me ayto ton tropo. Antilambanomai oti qa prepei na anadeijete to epixeirhma: pente ta kommata, alla dyo oi politikes. Apo thn allh omws, ayto einai hdh gnwsto, den einai kati kainoyrgio. Opws einai gnwsto kai den einai kainoyrgio poia einai h qesh ths Kybernhshs, alla kai twn allwn kommatwn oson afora th Synqhkh toy Amsterntam.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Kai egw antilambanomai thn agwnia sas na apodeijete th logikh "xilia kommata mia h ONE". Ayto to opoio egw erwtw einai, qa paei h Kybernhsh se Olomeleia ths Boylhs gia thn epikyrwsh nai h oxi;\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Den apanthsate. Gi' ayto sas janarwtw.\nREPPAS: Apanthsa, k. Mpogiopoyle. Eipa sthn arxh oti to qema ayto exei parei to dromo toy. Qa moy epitrecete na mhn mpw se alles leptomereies, para to oti mporw na sas pw kathgorhmatika oti "nai, qa pame sthn olomeleia", alla qa prepei epishs na epilejoyme ton tropo me ton opoio qa proxwrhsoyme s' ayth th diadikasia. Antilambaneste pws oi xeirismoi aytoi ginontai parallhla me xeirismoys se alla qemata, poy einai se ejelijh sthn E. E. Otan dinw mia apanthsh, parakalw na arkeiste sthn apanthsh poy dinw. Den dinw tyxaia thn opoia apanthsh dinw.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mhpws mporeite na moy peite, pote h Kybernhsh -meta kai thn parakamch toy ellhnikoy beto kai apo to Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn- qa prosfygei sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio;\nREPPAS: Einai h tetarth h pempth fora poy qetete thn erwthsh, qa dwsw thn idia apanthsh. Den exei lhfqei tetoia apofash.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Aporw pws...\nREPPAS: Giati apanthsh exei doqei proswpika se esas, kat' epanalhch...\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Den qa pate;\nREPPAS: Aporw pws ayto den to eixate...\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Eixate pei, oti otan parete ta praktika ths Komision, qa kanete thn prosfygh.\nREPPAS: Ayto qymaste oti eixa pei;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Meta yphrje Koreper kai Symboylio Ypoyrgwn. Pote, epiteloys, qa pate sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio;\nREPPAS: Isxyoyn ola osa exoyme pei. Oi desmeyseis poy exoyme analabei isxyoyn kai qa akoloyqhsoyme ayth thn poreia. Qa prosfygoyme sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. Asfalws qa to kanoyme. Kai einai mia diadikasia h opoia bebaiws ekteinetai se makros xronoy, alla einai kati to opoio qa anagkastoyme na kanoyme, efoson h E. E. epimenei se mia politikh h opoia dynamitizei to nomiko kai politiko plaisio panw sto opoio exei, mexri twra, leitoyrghsei h epi toy opoioy sthrizetai gia na pairnei tis apofaseis ths. Ta exoyme pei ayta.\nZHKIDHS: Pera apo ta gnwsta antiplhqwristika metra poy exei parei twra h Kybernhsh, yparxei skech gia kapoia nea diatajh s` ayth thn kateyqynsh;\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme epityxei o plhqwrismos na kineitai stoys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei. Mexri teloys toy etoys qa exoyme epityxei kai ayto to krithrio, to krithrio toy plhqwrismoy. Pisteyoyme oti ta metra poy exoyme labei gia th meiwsh twn emmeswn forwn, toy F. P. A. h th meiwsh ths timhs twn kaysimwn qermanshs odhgoyn se megalo baqmo, peran ths apoklimakwshs toy plhqwrismoy, sthn enisxysh twn laikwn eisodhmatwn, sthn enisxysh twn oikogeneiakwn eisodhmatwn. Giati, opws eipa apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh, prohgoymenws, exoyme to fainomeno sthn patrida mas, oi times se proionta kai yphresies, oxi mono na menoyn staqeres, alla na meiwnontai kiolas. Antilambaneste pws o poliths, o katanalwths einai aytos poy kyriws wfeleitai. Ayto einai to mhnyma: Kerdizei o katanalwths-poliths, kerdizei to oikogeneiako eisodhma apo thn politikh ayth.\nKANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na sas rwthsw an oi ejaggelies toy Ypoyrgoy PEXWDE k. Laliwth gia anaplash, gia anamorfwsh ths Plateias Omonoias einai sto plaisio twn yposxesewn poy edwse o Prwqypoyrgos, to brady twn eklogwn gia synergasia me oloys toys Dhmarxoys;\nREPPAS: Einai sto plaisio twn yposxesewn poy exei dwsei h Kybernhsh, edw kai para polla xronia, gia thn proodo pollwn megalwn ergwn poy qa allajoyn th morfh ths Ellados, alla kai th morfh twn polewn ths xwras mas. Exoyn ginei polla tetoia erga. Gnwrizete oti sthn odo Ermoy, ta teleytaia xronia egine mia shmantikh anaplash. Kati analogo qa ginei kai gia thn Plateia Omonoias. To armodio Ypoyrgeio, to YPEXWDE, exei ena plhres sxedio kai qa prepei na anagnwristei oti to sxedio ayto to efarmozei me synepeia.\nKANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh anaferate thn odo Ermoy, pisteyw oti oloi qymomaste edw oti o k. Laliwths htan dipla ston k. Abramopoylo, se kapoies giortes, teletes kai egkainia. Giati ayth th fora agnoei to Dhmarxo ths Aqhnas, meta thn prosfath kiolas eklogikh toy nikh. Kai qelw na pw an einai prospaqeia falkideyshs twn armodiothtwn toy Dhmarxoy Aqhnaiwn.\nREPPAS: Epi toy qematos aytoy den exei kamia armodiothta o Dhmarxos ths Aqhnas. Otan erqei h wra kai oloklhrwqoyn ta erga kai ginoyn ta egkainia kai sthn Plateia Omonoias, asfalws o Ypoyrgos PEXWDE qa kalesei to Dhmarxo Aqhnas na einai parwn sta egkainia. Den exoyme kanena logo na empodisoyme opoiodhpote polith, poly perissotero to Dhmarxo, na einai parwn sta egkainia. Kai pisteyoyme oti qa antapokriqei s` ayth thn prosklhsh o Dhmarxos ths Aqhnas.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto ejelegh; Gia na einai parwn sta egkainia; To 57% phre kyrie Ypoyrge.\nREPPAS: Mporei na kanei dhmotika erga, opws exei kanei o k. Abramopoylos. Oti yparxei Dhmarxos sthn Aqhna -opws kai se kaqe polh yparxei enas dhmarxos o opoios kanei erga sthn polh toy- den shmainei oti payei na yparxei kai o armodios Ypoyrgos ths xwras, o opoios kanei erga, ta opoia -epeidh einai kai o proypologismos megalyteros- symbainei na einai kai poly perissotera. Allo an ayto den fainetai panta. Bebaiws, se mia mikrh koinwnia antilambaneste pws ta panta einai eykolotero na ta plhroforhqoyn oi polites, enw se eqniko epipedo den einai eykolo na exoyn tetoies plhrofories. Kai omws to ergo ayto yparxei.\nGARGALAKOS: Qa anakoinwqoyn kai pali shmera, ws eiqistai, onomata forofygadwn, kyrie Ypoyrge;\nREPPAS: Ayta einai qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn. Aplws pisteyw oti prepei na kanei ta panta gia na empedwqei, epiteloys, mia forologikh syneidhsh stoys Ellhnes polites, pragma poy apotelei, metajy twn allwn, kai mia symbolh: Sto na yparxei forologikh dikaiosynh, na yparxei mia antikeimenikh kai isotimh antimetwpish olwn twn forologoymenwn apo to kratos.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Wednesday, 11 November 1998 - 22:48:02 UTC


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url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-10-21\nAqhna, 21 Oktwbrioy 2002\nQa hqela na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:\nAyth thn wra, exei synanthsh me to Geniko Grammatea toy PASOK Kwsta Laliwth. Ginetai enas prwtos apologismos kai oi prwtes ektimhseis twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn, giati einai logiko oti qa xreiastei oloklhros programmatismos kai mia pio sobarh doyleia panw se ayta.\nAyrio, stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Kwsta Skandalidh. Stis 11.30, qa synanthqei me thn ka Gianna Aggelopoyloy kai stis 12.00 qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Stis 19.30, qa parastei sta egkainia ths ekqeshs gia thn ispanikh texnh sthn Eqnikh Pinakoqhkh, opoy qa parabreqei kai h basilissa ths Ispanias.\nThn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai Proedrias, me eishghtes ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy kai ton ypoyrgo anaplhrwth Taso Giannitsh. Sthn hmerhsia diatajh qa yparxoyn epishs kai diafora alla qemata. Stis 8 to brady, qa parastei sta egkainia ths ekqeshs Ntali sto Moyseio Goylandrh.\nThn Pempth to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos kai kybernhtiko klimakio qa anaxwrhsoyn gia tis Bryjelles. Opws gnwrizete, to brady ths Pempths arxizei h Atyph Synodos Koryfhs ths danikhs Proedrias, me apokleistiko qema th dieyrynsh. Sth synexeia, qa pragmatopoihqei to gnwsto deipno twn arxhgwn kratwn kai kybernhsewn.\nThn Paraskeyh to prwi, arxizei h Synodos poy qa oloklhrwqei arga to apogeyma, gyrw stis 7. Sth synexeia o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaxwrhsei gia to Londino, dioti th Deytera qa exei synanthsh me ton Agglo Prwqypoyrgo Toni Mpler, me ton opoio qa syzhthsei qemata poy syndeontai me th dieyrynsh kai thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E., alla bebaiws kai genikotera qemata ths ellhnikhs Proedrias.\nMe thn eykairia ayth qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw gia mia seira dieqnwn epafwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Antikeimeno aytwn twn epafwn einai ta qemata ths dieyrynshs, me aixmh thn Kypro kai ta qemata ths Proedrias:\n-Stis 5 Noembrioy, qa metabei sto Parisi, opoy qa exei synanthsh me to Gallo Proedro Zak Sirak kai akoloyqws, qa paei sto Berolino, opoy qa exei synomilies me to Germano Kagkelario Gkexarnt Srenter. Qa epistrecei stis 10 Noembrioy.\n-Stis 14 Noembrioy, qa parastei sth Synodo toy Eyrwpaikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos sth Barsobia, kata th diarkeia ths opoias qa yparjei kai synanthsh-geyma ergasias twn sosialistwn Prwqypoyrgwn kai arxhgwn me aixmh th dieyrynsh. Qa epistrecei stis 15 Noembrioy.\n-Stis 20 Noembrioy, qa anaxwrhsei gia thn Praga, opoy qa pragmatopoihqei h Synodos toy NATO. Qa epistrecei stis 23 Noembrioy. Gia thn Praga qa yparjei kai dhmosiografikh apostolh apo to ypoyrgeio Typoy.\n-Stis 30 Noembrioy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh sthn Ellada me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Ispanias Xose Maria Aqnar.\n-Stis 3 Dekembrioy, qa exei synanthsh sthn Aqhna me ton Filando Prwqypoyrgo Paabo Liponen.\n-Stis 6 Dekembrioy, qa synanthqei sth Rwmh me ton Italo Prwqypoyrgo Silbio Mperloyskoni.\n-Stis 9 Dekembrioy, qa synanthqei me ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy.\n-Stis 11 Dekembrioy, qa anaxwrhsei gia thn Kopegxagh, opoy qa parei meros sthn Taktikh Synodo Koryfhs gia th dieyrynsh kai elpizoyme kai thn entajh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Qa yparjei kai dhmosiografikh apostolh.\n-Epishs, exei prosdioristei kai synanthsh, thn epomenh Paraskeyh (1/11), me to Boylgaro Prwqypoyrgo.\nBlepete oti yparxei mia ploysia dieqnhs paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Prepei na ginei katanohto oti aytes oi synanthseis exoyn ws kyrio antikeimeno thn omalh poreia ths dieyrynshs -me aixmh thn entajh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias- kai kaqistantai idiaitera shmantikes kai krisimes. Kata th diarkeia aytwn twn synanthsewn, qa syzhthqoyn kai ta qemata poy syndeontai me tis proteraiothtes ths ellhnikhs Proedrias, h opoia, ws gnwston, arxizei thn 1h Ianoyarioy.\nQa hqela, epishs, na xairethsw to apotelesma toy dhmochfismatos sthn Irlandia, symfwna me to opoio peripoy to 63% twn Irlandwn politwn leei "nai" sth dieyrynsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Me ayto ton tropo, ginetai akomh ena qetiko bhma kai gia th dieyrynsh ths E.E., alla kai eidikotera gia thn entajh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias.\nTelos, qa moy epitrecete na kanw kapoies parathrhseis gia ta qemata twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn. Bebaiws, qa yparjei analytikh syzhthsh mesa apo tis diadikasies toy Kinhmatos mas, opws aytes qa prosdioristoyn apo th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai Proedroy toy Kinhmatos me to Grammatea toy PASOK. Prepei na yparjei enas eswterikos ploysios dialogos, mia sobarh ektimhsh twn apotelesmatwn, mia doyleia se baqos, opoy qa anadeixqoyn kai ta poiotika stoixeia, alla qa ejaxqoyn kai ta anagkaia symperasmata apo th boylhsh toy ellhnikoy laoy. Anamfibola yparxoyn pollapla kai endiaferonta mhnymata, toso gia to diko mas xwro kai thn kybernhsh mas, oso kai gia ola ta politika kommata. Epomenws, me prosoxh kai eyaisqhsia qa prepei na jekinhsoyme ayth th doyleia.\nPisteyw, omws, oti mporoyme apo twra na prosdiorisoyme tessera basika prwta symperasmata:\n-To prwto symperasma einai oti h prospaqeia ths N.D. na dhmioyrghsei me to peribohto "steilte mhnyma" klima politikhs astaqeias kai oroys prowrwn eklogwn, apetyxe patagwdws. O poliths den enekrine kai den symfwnhse me aytes tis logikes. Oi polites qeloyn thn politikh staqerothta, qeloyn thn omalh poreia ths kybernhshs kai thn prowqhsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Epomenws, to politiko apotelesma poy prosdokoyse h N.D. apo aytes tis ekloges, den to katorqwse kai me ayth thn ennoia, apetyxe stis epiloges ths.\n-To deytero symperasma einai oti se ayth th diadikasia den yparxoyn nikhtes kai htthmenoi. Prepei na sygxaroyme toys eklegmenoys dhmarxoys kai nomarxes, me toys opoioys bebaiws kai qa synergastoyme. Pisteyw, omws, oti anadeixqhke pws o dikos mas xwros exei panta baqies rizes sthn koinwnia kai idiaiterh epirroh sto xwro ths Topikhs kai Nomarxiakhs Aytodioikhshs. O xwros mas edeije na diathrei tis dynameis toy, idiaitera ekei opoy yphrjan kai synergasies me alles dynameis ths Aristeras, opws ayth toy SYN. Bebaiws, apo thn chfo toy laoy prepei na ejaxqoyn polla kai xrhsima symperasmata. Yphrjan pollapla kai poikilomorfa mhnymata kai gia proswpa kai gia epiloges kai gia sxeseis me koinwnikes omades, idiaitera se orismenes krisimes perioxes. Na eiste bebaioi oti me thn aparaithth eyaisqhsia kai eyqynh qa syzhthsoyme kai qa anadeijoyme ayta ta mhnymata, beltiwnontas kai enisxyontas thn politikh mas.\n-To trito symperasma exei na kanei me to qema ths synergasias toy eyryteroy proodeytikoy xwroy. Einai safes oti opoy yphrjan tetoies synergasies to apotelesma htan qetiko gia oloys, oxi mono gia to PASOK, alla kai gia tis dynameis ths Aristeras. Antiqetws, opoy yphrjan sygkroyseis kai politikes apomonwshs, anoijame to dromo gia tis dynameis ths synthrhshs. Pisteyw oti ta apotelesmata ayta prepei na ajiologhqoyn kai h prooptikh ths synergasias kai ths sygkrothshs toy eyryteroy proodeytikoy xwroy prepei na enisxyqei.\n-To tetarto symperasma exei na kanei me to qema ths emfanishs enos mikroy, akomh, alla yparktoy posostoy toy ellhnikoy laoy, idiaitera sto Lekanopedio, to opoio apotelei politiko akroathrio apocewn, opws ekeines toy k. Karatzaferh poy exoyn akrodejia xarakthristika. Ayto to mikro, alla yparkto pososto, poy edeije na apotelei politiko akroathrio tetoiwn apocewn, prepei na problhmatisei kyriws th N.D. apo thn opoia proerxetai kai h opoia me thn politikh ths dhmioyrgei to zwtiko xwro gia na yparjoyn tetoies apoceis. Ayta einai ta prwta symperasmata. Bebaiws, qa yparjei enas makrys kai ploysios dialogos, me aisqhma eyqynhs kai thn aparaithth eyaisqhsia apenanti sta symperasmata poy prepei na ejagoyme apo thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy.\nMIXAHL: Toso apo ta apotelesmata toy a` gyroy, oso kai apo ta xqesina, ejagetai ena symperasma: Oti to PASOK emfanizei adynamia me xarakthristika httas se perioxes hmiagrotikes h agrotikes, to opoio eixate epishmanei polla stelexh kai apo ton a` gyro, alla kai se polles laikes geitonies megalwn polewn. Gia paradeigma, Peristeri, Nikaia kai Aigalew, dytikh Aqhna, opoy kata kyrio logo einai tetoies geitonies kai alles perioxes sth B@ Aqhnas, alla kai sth Nea Iwnia toy Boloy k.l.p. Ayto sas problhmatizei kai ti metra mporeite na labete epi ths oysias ths politikhs, etsi wste ayta ta strwmata poy -opws panta paradexeste- sas sthrizoyn, na sas sthrijoyn jana stis epomenes boyleytikes ekloges;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti anamfibola qa melethsoyme me prosoxh thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy. Bebaiws ephreazoyn shmantika ta proswpa kai ayto den mporei kaneis na to agnohsei. Qa deite dhmoys kai nomarxies me syggenh koinwnika strwmata, na exoyn teleiws diaforetika apotelesmata. Omws, yphrje bebaiws kai mia symperifora koinwnikwn strwmatwn, ta opoia antimetwpizoyn problhmata kai ayto prepei na ajiologhqei me aisqhma eyqynhs. Anaferate ta agrotika strwmata. Se orismenes perioxes idiaitera, giati den fanhke se olh thn Ellada, opoy paragontai orismena proionta, gia paradeigma, to bambaki, sta opoia yphrje mia dokimasia ton teleytaio kairo, ekfrasthke mia tetoia logikh, enas problhmatismos, se sxesh me thn politikh mas. Xreos mas einai na ajiologhsoyme ola ayta ta mhnymata, na ajiologhsoyme ayth th qelhsh poy edeije o ellhnikos laos, na bgaloyme ta aparaithta symperasmata kai na mporesoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme mia synexh, yparkth kai zwntanh sxesh me ayta ta strwmata, analyontas thn politikh mas, beltiwnontas shmeia poy einai dynata kai, bebaia, apokaqistwntas mia sxesh symporeyshs kai gia to mellon, panw sta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn aytes oi koinwnikes dynameis. Pantote, omws, me realismo, me eyqynh kai mesa sto plaisio poy h politikh mas mporei na dwsei sygkekrimenes apanthseis. Apo kei kai pera, epitrecte moy na sas pw oti h doyleia ayth, poy exei na kanei kai me ta eklogika apotelesmata, prepei na ginei se baqos. Gia paradeigma, anaferate to Peristeri. Qelw, omws, na sas epishmanw oti sto b` gyro, toylaxiston, yphrje peripoy to ayto apotelesma me elaxistes diafores, oi opoies bebaiws odhghsan na allajei o dhmos xeria, alla einai peripoy to idio apotelesma ths prohgoymenhs foras. Thn prohgoymenh fora yphrxan 300 chfodeltia syn kai ayth th fora 300 plhn. Ayto se pososto einai peripoy 0,4% h 0,5%. Milame gia tetoies diafores. Epomenws, ta ajiologoyme ola ayta, prepei, omws, na epishmanw eidika gia to Peristeri oti egine enas ploysios kai shmantikos agwnas, mia poly ypeyqynh kai sobarh prospaqeia, h opoia bebaiws mporei na mhn odhghse se ena qetiko apotelesma gia to dhmo, alla odhghse opwsdhpote se ena poly shmantiko apotelesma kai ayto prepei na ajiologhqei.\nMIXAHL: Kai xqes o Prwqypoyrgos kai eseis twra lete ``o,ti mporoyme na diorqwsoyme'' kai ``qa laboyme ypoch mas ta apotelesmata, sto plaisio ths politikhs mas''. Den sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti h politikh sas se orismenoys tomeis den exei, toylaxiston -an oxi apodokimastei- brei symfwnoys toys polites;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti h politikh poy efarmozoyme sth strathgikh ths syllhch kai prowqhsh den mporei na allajei gia sygkekrimenoys logoys. Poioi einai oi logoi aytoi: Oti den yparxei dynatothta mias allhs politikhs, mesa sto periballon poy briskomaste, idiaitera ston agrotiko tomea. Yparxei Koinh Agrotikh Politikh, yparxoyn oi sygkekrimenes anagkes kai dynatothtes ths kai yparxei mprosta mas kai h anaqewrhsh ths Koinhs Agrotikhs Politikhs, sto plaisio twn diadikasiwn ths E.E. Ara, den mporoyme, gia paradeigma, na epaneqnikopoihsoyme thn ellhnikh gewrgia. Den omilei kanenas gia tetoia zhthmata. Bebaiws, omws, mporoyme na synergastoyme stena me ton Ellhna agroth gia tis anagkaies anadiarqrwseis. Bebaiws, mporoyn na erxontai oi apozhmiwseis sthn wra toys, kaqws kai mia seira alla zhthmata poy mporei na epilyqoyn kai exoyn na kanoyn me thn ejyphrethsh toy polith sta astika kentra, me thn kaqhmerinothta toy polith h me th sxesh mas me to xwro twn mikromesaiwn. Yparxoyn terastia periqwria mesa stis strathgikes epiloges mas, wste na yparxei mia beltiwsh ths sxeshs mas me ayta ta koinwnika strwmata. Na eiste bebaioi oti ayta ta periqwria qa ta ajiopoihsoyme\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Apo ta apotelesmata twn dyo gyrwn stis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges prokyptei oti orismenoi dhmoi oi nomarxies xaqhkan apo laqh stelexwn toy PASOK; Yparxoyn eyqynes;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den biazomai na kanw tetoioy eidoys ektimhseis poy exoyn na kanoyn me ta eswterika toy PASOK. Opwsdhpote oi epiloges epedrasan, ta proswpa epedrasan, ta koinwnika problhmata se kaqe perioxh epedrasan, oi idiaiterothtes ths kaqe perioxhs epedrasan. Den mporei na syzhthsoyme genikws ayth th stigmh, giati etsi qa kanoyme afairesh, h opoia qa mas odhghsei se lanqasmena symperasmata. Ara, as doyme ta gegonota me hremia, sobarothta, eyqynh kai xwris kamia diaqesh ekmetalleyshs apo kanenan.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ara, twra moy lete oti den yparxoyn eyqynes;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa ayto. Eipa, mh biazomaste na epixeiroyme diastayrwmena pyra. Giati opoios biastei na epixeirhsei diastayrwmena pyra, kat arxas qa kanei laqos, deyteron qa kindyneysei na apokrycei ta pragmatika problhmata kai triton, qa egkainiasei mia syzhthsh, h opoia qa exei isws gia ta MME kapoia stoixeia endiaferontos kai dramatopoihshs, alla epi ths oysias den qa apanta sta pragmatika problhmata. Emeis qeloyme na apantame sta pragmatika problhmata kai oxi na dhmioyrgoyme gegonota h diajifismoys.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti den yparxoyn nikhtes kai htthmenoi, gia thn kybernhsh kai to PASOK. O k. Karamanlhs xqes eipe oti nikhse h Aytodioikhsh, nikhse h N.D.\nPRWTOPAPAS: O k. Karamanlhs ayto ektima, alla h ektimhsh toy den sthrizetai se yparkth bash. Den mporw na katalabw pws ejagei to symperasma oti nikhse h N.D., otan o idios stis ekloges toy 1998 -kai ean qelete mporw na sas diabasw th dhlwsh toy- eixe pei oti h nikh ths N.D. sthrizetai kyria panw sto gegonos ths nikhs sthn ypernomarxia Aqhnwn-Peiraiws, h opoia exei barynoysa politikh shmasia. Twra o eklektos toy k. Karamanlh apetyxe kai malista me megalh diafora, sthn ypernomarxia. Isws prepei na ypenqymisoyme ston arxhgo ths N.D. tis dhlwseis toy to 1998, gia na exei toylaxiston, ws pros ayto mia synepeia me tis shmerines toy dhlwseis.\nPOYLIDOY: Hqela na rwthsw ean exete staqmismena se chfoys ta apotelesmata twn dhmotikwn eklogwn, mias poy kapoioi edw....\nPRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme twn nomarxiakwn toy a` gyroy, alla ayta einai ayqaireta. Kai na sas pw giati; Dioti h proswpikothta, qetikh h arnhtikh, enos ypochfioy nomarxh epidra ta mala. Den mporoyme na taytizoyme ta panta, na poyme oti h dynamh toy PASOK h toy PASOK kai toy SYN einai akribws ayth. Ean o ypochfios nomarxhs htan katallhloteros qa eixe dieisdysei kai stoys alloys xwroys. Ean o ypochfios nomarxhs htan aneparkhs kai apodokimasthke apo ton kosmo, qa exei xasei, se sxesh me th genikoterh poreia mas. Qa sas pw ena paradeigma apo tis ekloges sto Lekanopedio: Yparxoyn dhmoi me terasties diafores metajy ths chfoy gia thn ypernomarxia, yper ths kas Gennhmata, kai toy ypochfioy dhmarxoy. Ston a` gyro emfanisthke kai to antiqeto. Exw pei to paradeigma ths agias Barbaras, toy Tayroy kai toy Mosxatoy, opoy oi chfoi twn dhmarxwn yperebainan kata poly to kommatiko pososto toy PASOK. Einai parakindyneymeno kaneis na kanei tetoies anagwges. Par ola ayta kai me to aisqhma oti den prattoyme swsta, gia na doyme ti exei ginei, to kaname. Exoyme diapistwsei oti den yparxoyn oysiastikes diafores stis dynameis twn chfodeltiwn synergasias stis perissoteres perioxes, apo ekeines toy 1998. Ayto einai ena prwto symperasma apo ton a` gyro. Epanalambanw, omws, oti exei to stoixeio ths ayqairesias kai den nomizw oti prepei kaneis ekei na edrazei politikes ektimhseis.\nPOYLIDOY: Sygnwmh, exei ena stoixeio ayqairesias, apo thn allh pleyra, omws. Xqes sto xarth blepame thn ypernomarxia Aqhnwn na einai se ektash peripoy idia me thn Eyboia. Alla, ap oti katalaba kapoia stigmh, h ypernomarxia Aqhnwn apeyqynetai sto 1/3 h 1/4 toy plhqysmoy ths xwras. Ara, yparxei kai ena stoixeio ayqairesias apo thn allh pleyra.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Exete dikio. Kai genikws exei ena stoixeio ayqairesias o xarths. Dioti, gia paradeigma, ston a` gyro yparxoyn polites poy yperchfisan to ``x'' syndyasmo ws prwto kai ton ``c'' ws deytero, kai ston b` gyro, gia kapoio logo poy piqanon na einai h oxi politikos , anedeijan ton ``c'' sth qesh toy nomarxh h toy dhmarxoy. Ayto den shmainei oti anhkei sto sygkekrimeno ``xrwma'' o nomos. Ayta einai ayqaireta symperasmata. Kai qa elega oti ayth h istoria me ta xrwmata kai ta shmaiakia den bohqa. To exei epishmanei kat epanalhch o k. Laliwths kai symfwnw apolyta mazi toy. Bebaiws kai an akomh etsi to paroyme, qa diapistwsete oti ean sas elega prin apo dyo mhnes -gia na eimaste eilikrineis metajy mas- oti oi dynameis kai ta chfodeltia poy yposthrizei to PASOK mazi me to Synaspismo h kai alles proodeytikes dynameis, qa efqanan peripoy stis 23 nomarxies poy einai shmera, isws na mas koitagate perierga. Shmera, omws, ayto einai gegonos.\nGARGALAKOS: Sto qema ths politikhs anagnwshs toy apotelesmatos: Mporei h N.D. na mh dynatai na qesei qema prowrwn eklogwn, wstoso to apotelesma epibebaiwse to shmantiko probadisma twn 5-6 posostiaiwn monadwn poy katagrafoyn oi dhmoskophseis, yper ths N.D.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Apo poy bgainei ayto k. Gargalako;\nGARGALAKOS: Na oloklhrwsw thn erwthsh. Kai me dedomeno oti apomenei enas xronos peripoy mexri tis eqnikes ekloges, qa eprepe to kybernwn komma na diorqwsei, nai h oxi, kapoies politikes toy, wste na paei stis eqnikes ekloges me dynatothtes nikhs;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Eipa kai prin oti me aisqhma eyqynhs kai thn eyaisqhsia poy prepei na diaqetei to komma mas, qa ajiologhsoyme ta symperasmata poy bgainoyn apo thn chfo toy laoy kai bebaiws opoy xreiastoyn beltiwseis kai megalyterh apodotikothta sthn politikh mas, qa yparjoyn. Ayto to eipa me thn prwth parembash moy. Den eimaste adiaforoi otan chfizei o poliths, oyte alazonikoi. Ean to kaname ayto qa shmaine oti den akoyme tipota apo o,ti leei h koinwnia mas.\nGARGALAKOS: Se o,ti afora to ``apo poy bgainei ayto'', einai mia ektimhsh toy k. Fanara, thn akoysa xqes.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Entajei, Alla prepei na sas pw oti eginan polles ereynes to teleytaio diasthma. Yphrxan apotelesmata ereynwn poy edinan 10 monades, twra milame gia 5,5%, alla den qa prepei na panhgyrizoyme otan meiwnetai mia diafora, estw kai an h diafora ginei ayrio poly mikroterh. Ayto poy prepei na koitame einai h doyleia mas. Ean h doyleia mas ginetai swsta, na eiste bebaioi oti kai oi ereynes qa thn katagrafoyn kai qa beltiwnetai to pososto apo ereyna se ereyna.\nARGYROS: Sth beltiwsh kai thn enisxysh ths politikhs, mporei na kriqei kai to qema ths oikonomikhs politikhs h h antikatastash proswpwn;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei qema anasxhmatismoy.\nELENOPOYLOS: Ayto to jerame, alla ekeino poy den gnwrizoyme einai to ejhs: Qema allaghs proswpwn se organismoys, perifereies, ean, dhladh, ta piasoyme ena-ena ekei kai doyme ta stoixeia...\nPRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den to gnwrizw. Einai ena qema poy kaqe fora synektimatai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo mazi me ton armodio ypoyrgo. Den mporoyme na to jeroyme ayto.\nI. KAMPOYRAKHS: Yparxei mia epikratoysa apoch apo analytes, alla kai apo stelexh toy PASOK poy leei oti gia allh mia fora prokyptei epitaktika h anagkh ananewshs toy politikoy proswpikoy. Den qa rwthsw gia anasxhmatismo, qa zhthsw, omws, na moy sxoliasete ayth thn apoch kai an sto dromo pros tis eqnikes ekloges ayto qa prepei na apotelesei mia kyria parametro ths politikhs toy kybernwntos kommatos.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynato na einai kaneis antiqetos sthn ananewsh toy politikoy proswpikoy enos poly megaloy kommatos, to opoio diekdikei thn ejoysia kai qa thn janadiekdikhsei stis epomenes ekloges;\nALEJAKHS: Sta symperasmata apo tis ekloges anaferetai oti yparxei ena kommati toy plhqysmoy, to opoio akoyei ta akrodejia mhnymata poy proerxontai apo ton k. Karatzaferh kai ayto einai kyria eyqynh@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Milhsame gia ena mikro kommati, alla diapistwmeno@\nALEJAKHS: Einai kyria eyqynh ths N.D. poy afhse zwtiko xwro. Epeidh ena megalo pososto apo aytoys toys chfoforoys htan neoi, anergoi, apo ayta ta koinwnika strwmata@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den exw thn idia gnwmh me sas.\nALEJAKHS: Toylaxiston oi statistikes@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Kata ena megalo pososto htan anqrwpoi apo astikes perioxes kai me ypersynthrhtikes apoceis.\nALEJAKHS: Htan, omws, ena kommati poy ekineito se ayth thn kathgoria@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw, omws, oti diakrinetai gia to pososto ths anergias.\nALEJAKHS: Yphrxe, omws, sth Salamina, th Glyfada@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Kai sth Glyfada, bebaiws. Giati;\nALEJAKHS: Htan ena megalo kommati arketwn proastiwn@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den eimai kata twn proastiwn, pros Qeoy! Alla lew oti ta boreia proastia den diakrinontai gia ta megala laika problhmata. Ekei htan to megalytero pososto. Ayto shmainei oti htan kyriws ypersynthrhtikes kai ypereqnikistikes apoceis.\nALEJAKHS: Nai, alla tis tyxes ths xwras tis diaxeirizetai h kybernhsh. Skeftetai na anoijei ena dialogo me ta alla kommata h na diamorfwsei politikes, oytws wste na anasteilei ayth thn tash ths koinwnias, poy isws na mhn anaferetai se ena mono politiko xwro@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Me aisqhma eyqynhs kai cyxraimias -giati den prepei na emfanistei ws apeilh, qelw na to kanw safes, den aisqanetai h dhmokratia mas kamia apeilh- prepei opote emfanizetai ena tetoio fainomeno na to antimetwpizoyme. Kai na to antimetwpisoyme prwta apo ola ideologika.\nKARGOYDH: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na kanei kapoies diorqwseis ston ypo katartish proypologismo, me bash kai ta symperasmata poy exete hdh ejagei apo tis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges; Ennow agrotika, mikromesaioi k.t.l.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas diabebaiwsw oti o proypologismos, toylaxiston to arxiko sxedio poy epejergasthkame -gnwrizete oti yparxei kai sxedio anagkhs se periptwsh polemoy- exei ejantlhsei tis dynatothtes ths oikonomias gia koinwnikes paroxes. Kai se kaqe periptwsh prepei na skeftomaste oti oi epi to qetikotero apanthseis poy mporei na doqoyn stis dikaiologhmenes apaithseis -to tonizw- twn laikwn strwmatwn, proypoqetoyn thn omalh, synexizomenh kai epitaxynomenh anaptyjiakh poreia ths xwras. Dioti apo thn omalh synexizomenh kai epitaxynomenh anaptyjiakh poreia ths xwras qa yparjoyn ekeina ta pleonasmata, ekeinoi oi poroi poy qa mas epitrecoyn, opws to qeloyme, na kanoyme akomh entonoterh koinwnikh politikh.\nKARGOYDH: Akoyga to prwi se ena radiofwno ton Proedro ths PASEGES, o opoios elege oti den einai toso problhma politikhs, oso zhthma anajiopistias apo thn pleyra@\nPRWTOPAPAS: To eipa ki egw, yparxoyn problhmata stis sxeseis mas. Den milw gia anajiopistia, den apodexomai ton oro, alla omologw oti yparxoyn problhmata stis sxeseis mas me polles koinwnikes omades, ta opoia den aptontai strathgikwn epilogwn. Den shmainei oti ola aptontai strathgikwn epilogwn.\nELENOPOYLOS: Gia poion ktypaei h kampana;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den xtypaei kamia kampana. Ola ayta ta zhthmata ginontai, ta syzhtoymai gia na eimaste akomh pio apotelesmatikoi sth doyleia mas.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Symplhrwmatika se ayto poy rwthse h ka Kargoydh: Den exw katalabei, lete synexeia oti h kybernhsh exei labei to mhnyma kai qa prospaqhsoyme na ginoyme kalyteroi@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa gia mhnyma. Milhsa gia polla kai poikilwnyma mhnymata. Den einai aplo to qema.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: @kai oti qa prospaqhsei na erqei pio konta ston polith k.t.l. Kai thn epomenh hmera twn eklogwn, enw exete sobaro problhma se dyo basikes kathgories koinwnikwn strwmatwn, opws einai oi agrotes kai oi laikes synoikies twn Aqhnwn, eiste kathgorhmatikoi kai lete oti den mporei na allajei h politikh sas ston agrotiko tomea.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Megalytera problhmata exoyme sthn Aqhna kai se perioxes poy den qewroyntai laikes. Gia paradeigma, qelw na sas qymisw oti o dhmos N. Iwnias, kat` ejoxhn ergatikos dhmos, htan mexri twra sta xeria dhmarxoy kai dhmotikoy syndyasmoy poy yposthrizotan apo th N.D.. O k. Xaralampoys ejelegh xqes dhmarxos N. Iwnias.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ti qelete na peite me ayto;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na pw oti ta megalytera problhmata, an prosejete to xarth poy diamorfwnetai, idiaitera sthn perioxh toy Lekanopedioy, den einai stis laikes perioxes. Yparxoyn problhmata sto lao.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Rwtaw sygkekrimena.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Sthn Petroypolh poy einai kat` ejoxhn laikh perioxh, xqes ejelegh ws dhmarxos, oxi o ypochfios toy KKE, alla o k. Blaxos.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Eseis eipate prohgoymenws oti qelete na deite ta pollapla mhnymata. An moy apantate me ayton ton tropo, shmainei oti h kybernhsh prospaqei na brei kapoies dikaiologies gia na mhn allajei thn politikh ths.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Kamia dikaiologia. H kybernhsh kai to PASOK prepei na ermhneysoyn poly kala ta apotelesmata twn eklogwn, dioti emperiexoyn pollapla mhnymata kai den yparxei ena eniaio mhnyma, opws epixeirhse na tekmhriwsei h N.D.. Gia paradeigma, oson afora to zhthma toy bambakioy, einai safes oti fetos h poly shmantikh doyleia poy exei ginei apo to ypoyrgeio Gewrgias -qelw na eimai panta sygkekrimenos- den qa odhghsei sta persina problhmata. Ayth einai h problech mas. Qa eimaste apo thn arxh se qesh na sygkentrwsoyme thn posothta poy orizoyn oi koinotikoi kanonismoi kai na ypologisoyme me akribeia kai xwris periqwrio laqoys -ayto elpizoyme toylaxiston- thn epistrofh poy qa eisprajoyn oi agrotes mas kai grhgora.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ayto den shmainei oti lyqhkan ta problhmata. O Prwqypoyrgos epi dyo xronia ejaggellei oti qa ginei to "Mhtrwo Agrotwn" kai qa dinontai apozhmiwseis. Omws, oi apozhmiwseis stoys agrotes den dinontai.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete kala oti oi apozhmiwseis exoyn arxisei na dinontai kai malista poly pio grhgora. Kai an gia toys bambakoparagwgoys kataferoyme ayto poy exoyme programmatisei -h doyleia exei ginei- dhladh, na eimaste apotelesmatikoi, me swsth efarmogh toy Kanonismoy kai na sygkentrwqoyn oi problepomenes posothtes, qa yparjoyn megales epistrofes, ara kai chlh timh gia ton Ellhna bambakoparagwgo, ta apotelesmata kai oi sxeseis mas me toys xwroys aytoys qa einai teleiws diaforetikes. Alla, kaka ta cemata, den mporoyme na epaneqnikopoihsoyme thn ellhnikh gewrgia. Opoios milaei gia tetoies allages politikhs, odhgei se katastrofh, makroproqesma ton Ellhna agroth. Mhn kanoyme mhxanistikes analyseis. H politikh mas prepei na proxwrhsei akomh pio mprosta, akomh pio apotelesmatika. Na mporesoyme na synergastoyme me ton Ellhna agroth, ton Ellhna bambakoparagwgo gia na dhmioyrghsoyme megalyterh antagwnistikothta sta proionta mas. Ayth einai h swsth energeia, ayth einai h swsth allagh, h beltiwsh poy prepei na ginei. Na mporesoyme na eimaste apodotikoi, egkaira kai paragwgika sthn politikh poy exoyme ejaggeilei. Na efarmozetai ayth h politikh. An ginei ayto se oloys toys xwroys, giati den afora kapoioys xwroys memonwmena, na eiste bebaioi oti qa dhmioyrghqoyn kalyteroi ryqmoi sto kybernhtiko ergo kai akomh kalyteres sxeseis me ola ta koinwnika strwmata. Eidikotera, oson afora to xwro toy Lekanopedioy qa diapistwsete oti yparxoyn pragmatika perierga fainomena. Ston idio ajona, me thn idia koinwnikh synqesh, o ypochfios mas pairnei pososto peripoy 65% kai ston allo dhmo na mhn mporei na eklegei. Gia paradeigma, qa deite opws eipa sto polypaqo Mosxato h thn perioxh toy Renth ejeleghsan dhmarxoi oi ypochfioi poy yposthrizontan apo to Synaspismo kai to PASOK apo ton a@ gyro, enw alloy poy den yphrje toso swsth antapokrish twn dhmotikwn arxwn se fysikes katastrofes, yphrje apodokimasia twn ypochfiwn dhmarxwn. Ola ayta ta problhmata prepei na synektimhqoyn. O laos diaqetei kai gnwsh, exei kai mnhmh kai kaqe fora me thn chfo toy topoqetei ta pragmata opws prepei. Kai emeis prepei na ta ermhneysoyme swsta.\nKOYIN: Eipate oti to kyrio antikeimeno twn episkecewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto ejwteriko qa einai h dieyrynsh me aixmh to Kypriako. Xarakthrisate kai thn olh diadikasia me thn Kopegxagh san krisimh. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, perimenei h kybernhsh polla problhmata, oson afora thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E.;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Se tetoias fyshs erwthseis den mporeis na eisai apolytws sygkekrimenos kai gnwrizete kalytera apo emena to giati. Ean rwtate gia thn proswpikh ektimhsh moy, qa sas apanthsw oti nai, isws yparjoyn problhmata. Kai emeis prepei apo twra, me th doyleia mas na prolaboyme na mhn emfanistoyn problhmata. Oi episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy se toses eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses kai oi polles synanthseis toy me Eyrwpaioys hgetes, kaqws kai oi prwtoboylies poy synexws analambanei, alla kai h paroysia toy se ola ta dieqnh fora exoyn ayto ws stoxo: na proetoimastoyme swsta thn krisimh wra. Na exoyme dhmioyrghsei me th doyleia mas tis synqhkes ekeines, wste ayta ta problhmata na apofeyxqoyn. Na ftasoyme omala sthn apofash gia th dieyrynsh. An den kanoyme tis katallhles proetoimasies, an den doylecoyme swsta, mporei ta apotelesmata na mhn einai ta anamenomena. Me th doyleia mas qa odhghqoyme sto epiqymhto apotelesma. Giati, as mhn jexname oti yparxoyn sobara zhthmata reystothtas se qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Gia paradeigma, sto qema ths Toyrkias kai ennow tis ekloges sth geitona xwra. Den dhmioyrgeitai reystothta; Yparxoyn kai ta problhmata ygeias toy k. Ntenktas. Yparxei h anamenomenh protash toy OHE meta apo tis toyrkikes ekloges. Yparxei seira problhmatwn poy qa exoyme mprosta mas.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Monday, 21 October 2002 - 13:05:15 UTC


url: = EPISKOPHSH TYPOY THS 21/3/2006\n Dhmoskophsh - GSEE\nO nomos gia tis dhmosies epixeirhseis, h kybernhtikh parembash enantion toy SEB, oi amyntikes promhqeies, h ayjhsh lhsteiwn kai diarrhjewn kai to gkalop gia logariasmo ths GSEE einai apo ta basika qemata ths eidhseografias toy shmerinoy Typoy.\nADESMEYTOS TYPOS: Mpoymerangk oi epiqeseis G. Papandreoy gia thn Oikonomia. Se katastash panikoy to PASOK.\nANW KATW: O Almoynia "adeiazei" to PASOK. "Twra einai ajiopista ta stoixeia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias".\nAPOGEYMATINH: Antarsia ypokinei to PASOK sta Panepisthmia. Ojynetai to klima ths politikhs antiparaqeshs.\nH AYGH: Syntriptikh apodokimasia kybernhshs kai SEB. To 68% dhlwnei oti h kybernhsh eynoei toys ergodotes.\nAYRIANH: Olo to sxedio gia ton neo aerometaforea. Neo etairiko sxhma me oxhma thn "PANQEON" kai oi antidraseis twn ergazomenwn ths Olympiakhs.\nTO BHMA: O nomos gia tis dhmosies epixeirhseis fernei anataraxh sthn kybernhsh. Opereta ypoyrgwn. Alogoskoyfhs - Liaphs erizoyn gia tis DEKO. Diaithths anelabe o k. Q. Roysopoylos.\nH BRADYNH: Pws qa ginoyn 10.000 proslhceis sthn Ygeia. Amesa h prokhryjh.\nEQNOS: Sta... opla jana o filos toy Qodwroy. Mini ypoyrgiko symboylio sygkalei o... ntiler twn asanser.\nELEYQERH WRA: Ligo prin thn krisimh synanthsh twn ergodotwn me thn GSEE: Oi syndikalistes dhmokopoyn... me dhmoskophseis.\nELEYQEROS: Enoxes oi kybernhseis gia to laqremporio kaysimwn. Drimy kathgorw apo benzinopwles kai bytioforeis.\nELEYQEROS TYPOS: Proslhceis: Oi prokhryjeis gia 1.588 qeseis.\nELEYQEROTYPIA: Gkalop: Ta metra ths kybernhshs eynooyn toys ergodotes. 87% gia anergia - akribeia.\nESTIA: Kraygalea dhmagwgia apo ton G. Papandreoy. Ti elege sto Layrio gia thn aporrofhsh twn anergwn newn.\nESPRESSO: Xiliades laoy syrreoyn sth Monh Agaqwnos, enw apokalyptetai... To prwto qayma toy "Agioy". Qerapeyse paidi me aniath asqeneia.\nH KAQHMERINH: Kybernhtikh parembash enantion SEB. Enocei synanthshs me th GSEE gia thn eqnikh symbash ergasias.\nO LOGOS: Apo to Layrio sto ayrio... Ojynetai h politikh antiparaqesh, me "fonto" ta ergasiaka.\nTA NEA: Sss... Mh milas, koimatai h EL.AS. Ekrhjh lhsteiwn - diarrhjewn.\nH NIKH: Agorazoyn xrono. Kolpo ths kybernhshs me thn anabolh gia tis DEKO.\nPRESS time: Dikaiwsh Qodwroy kai Giannas. Apofash-kolafos toy dikasthrioy gia Kwnstantino Aggelopoylo.\nRIZOSPASTHS: Ceyto-antiparaqesh metajy ND kai PASOK, enw proxwroyn oi strathgikoi antilaikoi stoxoi toys...\nShmera STHN ELLADA: 1.850 erga stoys OTA to 2006 apo to programma "Qhseas".\nTRAFFIC NEWS: Aerosynodos prosgeiwse sejomanh dikhgoro. Ton katebasan apo to aeroplano. Etoimazontai agwges kai mhnyseis.\nH XWRA: Proslhceis: 13.000 se ygeia kai dikastikh astynomia. Oles oi nees prokhryjeis kai ta dikaiologhtika.\nCity Press: Antepiqesh ths GSEE me gkalop.\nMetro: "Astegh" h nyxta. Epixeirhsh nomimothtas sth leitoyrgia twn nyxterinwn kentrwn.\nAGGELIOFOROS: "Galazia" apogohteysh. 'Ereyna ths Metron Analysis gia th GSEE.\nEGNATIA: "Den diekdikw to xrisma apo to PASOK". O G. Mpoytarhs anoigei ta xartia toy sthn "E" kai dhlwnei apofasismenos na einai ypochfios Dhmarxos Qessalonikhs akoma kai xwris th sthrijh ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.\nTYPOS QESSALONIKHS: H koinh gnwmh yper twn ergazomenwn.\nTO BHMA epishmainei oti "oi diaforetikes apoceis triwn ypoyrgwn gia to an o nomos poy prowqei tis metarryqmiseis stis DEKO qa prepei na efarmostei apo tis 30 Aprilioy, opws problepetai h na anablhqei gia liges ebdomades prokalesan xqes sto paraskhnio neoys endokybernhtikoys diaplhktismoys, metatrepontas thn kybernhsh gia mia akomh fora se opereta".\nH KAQHMERINH yposthrizei oti "o aysthros elegxos misqologikwn ayjhsewn stis zhmiogones DEKO, symfwna me ton opoio ews tis 30 Aprilioy prepei na allajoyn oi kanonismoi proswpikoy, qa parataqei toylaxiston gia ena dimhno. Sthn kybernhtikh ayth epilogh symballei h elleich eqnikhs syllogikhs symbashs, afoy xwris symfwnia ergodotwn kai ergazomenwn den yparxoyn oi ayjhseis ston katwtero misqo".\nH APOGEYMATINH isxyrizetai oti " to PASOK bazei fwtia sthn politikh omalothta kai thn koinwnikh eirhnh ypodaylizontas paraskhniaka anataraxes ston eyaisqhto xwro ths ekpaideyshs me katalhceis se 19 sxoles".\nH efhmerida Shmera STHN ELLADA grafei oti "erga se olh thn epikrateia pragmatopoioyntai apo to programma "Qhseas", kaqws apo to 2005 poy exei jekinhsei h efarmogh toy xrhmatodotikoy programmatos toy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs pros thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh exoyn egkriqei 6.677 dhmotika kai diadhmotika erga. Apo ayta exoyn dhmoprathqei ta 2.607 synolikoy proypologismoy ycoys 550- ekatommyriwn eyrw".\nH ANW KATW grafei oti "o koinotikos epitropos yposthrije oti epi kybernhsewn Shmith sta stoixeia ths oikonomias ginontan anaqewrhseis. "H Ellada egine melos ths ONE me bash ta stoixeia poy mas edwse h tote kybernhsh", dhlwse h ekproswpos toy Almoynia".\nO ELEYQEROS yposthrizei oti "drimy kathgorw pros oles tis kybernhseis, gia to "orgio" laqremporias ston xwro twn kaysimwn aphyqynan xqes prathrioyxoi kai bytioforeis".\nH TRAFFIC NEWS anaferei oti "Pantheon Airways qa onomastei h Olympiakh, symfwna me to epixeirhsiako sxedio toy ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn , poy paroysiase xqes o Mixalhs Liaphs ston prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Karamanlh. Epixeirhsiako sxedio poy exei "sthqei" xwris ependytes, me thn kybernhsh na toys caxnei...".\nH AYRIANH yposthrizei oti "anapofeykta odynhres anamenontai oi ejelijeis gia to mellon ths Olympiakhs kaqws to epixeirhsiako sxedio ths neas etaireias problepei dramatikh meiwsh toy proswpikoy, syrriknwsh toy stoloy kai twn dromologiwn, enw sth synexeia h "Olympiakh Aeroporia" kai oi "Olympiakes Aerogrammes" qa odhghqoyn se ekkaqarish".\nH ESPRESSO grafei oti "twra erxontai ta dyskola gia thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, ystera apo thn apokalych ths toyrkikhs efhmeridas "Xoyriet" peri diathrhshs toy dogmatos, symfwna me to opoio einai aitia polemoy gia thn Toyrkia h epektash twn ellhnikwn xwrikwn ydatwn sta 12 naytika milia kai oxi mono".\nH METRO anaferei oti " se nea ...epideijh adiallajias proxwrhse xqes h Toyrkia me to dogma eqnikhs asfaleias poy enekrine. Symfwna me ayto, to endexomeno epektashs twn ellhnikwn xwrikwn ydatwn sto Aigaio apotelei "aitia polemoy".\nH ELEYQEROTYPIA yposthrizei oti "entonh dysareskeia ekfrazoyn oi polites gia ta zhthmata ths kaqhmerinothtas, enw pisteyoyn oti h kybernhsh nomoqetei gia toys ergodotes. Tassontai yper twn katwtatwn apodoxwn kai kata twn trapezwn, poy den epiqymoyn kladikes symbaseis. Syntriptika pososta twn chfoforwn ths ND "gyrizoyn thn plath" sthn kybernhsh. Ayrio h krisimh synanthsh GSEE - ergodotwn gia tis ayjhseis. Gia "Gallakia kai papagalakia" kanei logo o Polyzwgopoylos".\nH CITY PRESS grafei: "h syndikalistikh hgesia yposthrizei oti h koinh gnwmh aporriptei thn kybernhtikh politikh. Gkalop ths Metron Analysis: 60%-65% leei "oxi" sthn eisodhmatikh kai sthn asfalistikh politikh ths kybernhshs. Sxedon kaqolikh h aporrich twn protasewn toy SEB apo thn ellhnikh koinh gnwmh".\nSymfwna me thn AYGH "diaxyth se oloklhrh thn koinwnia einai h dysforia gia thn kybernhtikh politikh alla kai h orgh gia th symperifora toy SEB. Symfwna me dhmoskophsh ths etaireias "Metron Analysis", gia logariasmo ths GSEE, 7 stoys 10 polites (kai enas stoys dyo chfoforoys ths ND) dhlwnoyn oti h kybernhtikh politikh eynoei toys ergodotes".\nH ELEYQERH WRA isxyrizetai oti "ligo prin thn krisimh synanthsh ergodotwn kai syndikalistwn, mia ereyna poy pragmatopoihqhke gia logariasmo ths GSEE emfanizei idiaitera epikritikh , thn koinh gnwmh gia tis energeies ths kybernhshs sxetika me tis ayjhseis stis syntajeis kai toys misqoys, thn antimetwpish ths akribeias kai ths anergias, alla kai to asfalistiko".\nO RIZOSPASTHS yposthrizei oti "o koyrniaxtos ths dikommatikhs polwshs kai twn "ychlwn tonwn", poy shkwqhke skopima ta teleytaia 24wra sthn politikh skhnh, den mporei na apokrycei thn pragmatikothta kai na rijei staxth sta matia toy laoy, kaqws ejelissetai me ameiwth entash h olometwph "nea" epiqesh kata twn dikaiwmatwn twn ergazomenwn, poy yposthrizetai apo to "metwpo" kybernhshs ND-PASOK kai SEB".\nO ELEYQEROS TYPOS anaferei oti "trexoyn" oi proqesmies ypobolhs aithsewn gia thn proslhch 1.588 monimwn kai epoxikwn ypallhlwn sto Dhmosio. En tw metajy, ta ypoyrgeia zhtoyn thn kalych 31.439 qesewn gia to 2006".\nH BRADYNH grafei oti "anasa" qa doqei stis nosokomeiakes monades poy ypoleitoyrgoyn logw elleichs proswpikoy, enw to Attiko nosokomeio, to opoio ayth th stigmh exei 450 krebatia kena, qa einai to prwto poy qa enisxyqei me noshleytiko proswpiko, me stoxo thn plhrh leitoyrgia toy. Deka xiliades proslhceis sto xwro ths Ygeias qa exoyn pragmatopoihqei mexri to 2007, parallhla me alles shmantikes allages ston tomea ths Ygeias tis opoies proanhggeile o ypoyrgos Ygeias Dhmhtrhs Abramopoylos".\nH XWRA prosqetei oti "se 5.000 proslhceis noshleytikoy kai iatrikoy proswpikoy proxwrei to yp. Ygeias, enw parallhla o An. Papalhgoyras anakoinwse th systash dikastikhs astynomias me stelexwsh se prwth fash apo 610 atoma".\nH Press Time anaferei oti "h anqellhnikh propaganda twn Skopianwn den exei oria. Se istoselides poy exoyn dhmioyrghsei Skopianoi toy Kanada apokaloyn "Makedonikes poleis" ta Grebena, th Qessalonikh, th Drama, thn Katerinh, tis Serres, to Neyrokopi, thn Edessa kai th Flwrina! Malista xarakthrizoyn th Boreia Ellada "Makedonia toy Aigaioy" poy katalhfqhke to 1913 apo toys Ellhnes".\nH NIKH ektima oti "dialeimma... filergatikhs rhtoreias kanei h kybernhsh Karamanlh, se mia prospaqeia na ejasfalisei thn ypografh ths GSEE gia ergasiakh eirhnh kai na synexisei akaqekth thn aporryqmish twn koinwnikwn kekthmenwn".\nH ESTIA epishmainei oti "me alla logia: O arxhgos toy PASOK kalei twra toys Ellhnes neoys na mimhqoyn toys Galloys poy "epanastatoyn me aitia" otan h aitia ths ejegersews toys einai metra analoga me ekeina poy eixe proteinei proeklogikws o idios! Exei kai h dhmagwgia ta oria ths".\nO ADESMEYTOS TYPOS isxyrizetai oti "se katastash panikoy to PASOK epixeirei na antistrecei thn pragmatikothta diapistwnontas pws h olh prospaqeia toy G. Papandreoy na plhjei thn kybernhsh ston tomea ths oikonomias gyrizei mpoymerangk meta thn apokalych pws o idios proeklogika eixe kataqesei protaseis analoges me aytes poy exoyn prokalesei tis anataraxes sth Gallia".\nO LOGOS ypogrammizei oti "oloena kai me megalyterh entash ekdhlwnetai h antiparaqesh kybernhshs-ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs se ola ta metwpa. Stis dhlwseis toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy gia thn anasfalisth ergasia twn newn kai thn protroph toy pros toys neoys na ginoyn "epanastates me aitia" epanhlqe o kybernhtikos ekproswpos Qodwrhs Roysopoylos egkalwntas ton proedro toy PASOK gia "politikh ojynshs".\nTo EQNOS tonizei oti "prosklhsh se syskech pros... enhmerwsh toys gia krisima qemata poy aforoyn tis amyntikes promhqeies apeyqynei se tesseris ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs o G. Paterakhs, gnwstos apo palaioteres ypoqeseis kai episthqios filos toy Q. Roysopoyloy".\nSymfwna me ta NEA "anhmporh emfanizetai h ELAS sthn antimetwpish ths epidhmias lhsteiwn kai diarrhjewn. Einai xarakthristiko oti arketa qymata mikroklopwn den speydoyn pleon gia kataggelies sta Astynomika Tmhmata, afoy ta pososta ejixniashs -eidika sthn perioxh ths Attikhs- paramenoyn se poly xamhla epipeda".\ntypos2html v1.03a run on Tuesday, 21 March 2006 - 21:35:33 UTC


url: =Athens News Agency: News in Greek, 04-02-05\n Ryqmish gia toys epaggelmaties oplites\n Apergia symbasioyxwn toy dhmosioy\n Dhlwseis A. Paparhga gia th synenteyjh toy G.Papandreoy sth NET\n Synanthsh toy Kwsta Karamanlh me ton Ampntoyla Gkioyl,stis Bryjelles.\n H dialysh ths Boylhs stis 11 Febroyarioy apofasisthke apo to Ypoyrgiko\n Dialysh Boylhs stis 11 Febroyarioy.\n Meiwnetai h diafora PASOK-ND symfwna me to eklogiko barometro ths VPRC\n Stis 10 Febroyarioy epanenarjh synomiliwn gia to Kypriako.\n Synenteyjh G.Papandreoy sth NET.\nMegalos ariqmos Epaggelmatiwn Oplitwn qa yphretei efejhs ston topo katagwghs toy, opws anakoinwse o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas Giannos Papantwnioy, sthn omilia toy sth diarkeia ths shmerinhs teleths orkwmosias twn 827 Epaggelmatiwn Oplitwn sto Kentro Ekpaideyshs Barewn Oplwn ( KEBOP) sto Xaidari Attikhs.\nParallhla gnwstopoihse oti dhmoprathqhkan 50 jenwnes se diafores perioxes ths xwras enw sth Qrakh kataskeyazontai alloi 150 gia th filojenia twn Epaggelmatiwn Oplitwn.\nOikonomiko programma ND Apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis o k. Papantwnioy anaferqhke sto oikonomiko programma ths ND kai stis epikeimenes ejelijeis sto kybernwn komma.\nGia to oikonomiko programma ths ND sxoliase oti prokeitai gia epikindynh ejelijh kaqws anoigei ejairetika dysaresta qemata gia ton ergazomeno opws to asfalistiko. Ektimhse de oti h ND qa prowqhsei xeiroteres ryqmiseis sto asfalistiko se sxesh me aytes poy isxyoyn shmera. Gia to PASOK prosqese, to asfalistiko exei kleisei oristika kai ta asfalistika dikaiwmata toy ergazomenoy opws ayta exoyn prosdioristei me ton prosfato nomo einai apolytws katoxyrwmena.\nOson afora sthn ejaggelia ths ND gia idiwtikopoihsh twn astikwn sygkoinwniwn ektimhse oti h ejelijh ayth qa prokalesei megalh ayjhsh toy eisithrioy se sxesh me th shmerinh timh toy.\nGia to synedrio toy PASOK epanelabe oti apo th diadikasia ayth qa prokycei ena neo oysiastika komma kai ektimhse oti to kybernhtiko programma poy qa anakoinwqei qa einai ena orama poy qa sthrizetai sthn idea toy sygxronoy kratoys kai ths isxyrhs koinwnias.\nThn apofash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy na zhthqei me epistolh apo ton proedro ths Dhmokratias h dialysh ths Boylhs stis 11 toy mhnos,h prokhryjh eklogwn stis 7 Martioy kai h sygklhsh ths neas Boylhs stis 18 Martioy (prokeimenoy h nea kybernhsh na exei parei chfo empistosynhs kai na mporei na labei meros omala sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Martioy kai sthn teleth afhs ths Olympiakhs Flogas) anakoinwse shmera o kybernhtikos ekproswpos.\nSth diarkeia toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy o prwqypoyrgos ekane enan apologismo toy kybernhtikoy ergoy kai anaferqhke idiaitera se deka shmeia:Thn entajh ths Elladas sthn Eyrwzwnh, thn anabaqmish toy kyroys ths xwras kai thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn EE, thn prowqhsh ths pragmatikhs sygklishs,thn ayjhsh twn porwn toy koinwnikoy kratoys, th dhmioyrgia newn ypodomwn kai megalwn ergwn, ton eksygxronismo twn qesmwn ths neas dioikhshs gia thn ejyphrethsh twn politwn, thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias, th dhmioyrgia anoixtoy sxoleioy sthn koinwnia, thn ayjhsh toy eisodhmatos twn agrotwn kai telos th lhjh ths diadikasias poy aforoyse th basilikh perioysia.\nO prwqypoyrgos tonise epishs pws ''h koinwnia exei syneidhtopoihsei oti h staqerothta apotelei proypoqesh anaptyjhs kai proodoy,pws xreiazetai sxedio kai programmatismos kai pws oi Ellhnes exoyn shmera apokthsei perissoterh aytopepoiqhsh''. ''To dilhmma einai safes'',ypogrammise o k. Shmiths kai prosqese oti''afora to an qa poreytei h xwra sto mellon me bebaiothta h me anasfaleia.Emeis prepei na anadeijoyme me safhneia to ergo mas,tis prooptikes poy dinoyme sth xwra kai ta dilhmmata poy yparxoyn''.\nO K.Shmiths eyxaristhse telos toys ypoyrgoys ekfrazontas thn elpida h symmetoxh toys sthn kybernhsh toy na yphrje mia xrhsimh kai dhmioyrgikh empeiria.\nSymfwna me tis apofaseis toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy to xronologio twn ejelijewn diamorfwnetai ws ejhs:\n- Stis 10/2 to Koinoboylio qa kyrwsei th synqhkh ths dieyrynshs,enw problepetai thn idia mera na jekinhsoyn oi synomilies gia to Kypriako sth Nea Yorkh.\n-Stis 11/2 dialyetai h Boylh kai thn idia mera kata pasa piqanothta paraiteitai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy kai th qesh toy analambanei o anaplhrwths Tasos Giannitshs.\n-Stis 12/2 paraitoyntai o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn Kwstas Skandalidhs kai o kybernhtikos ekproswpos Xrhstos Prwtopapas kai stis 13/2 orkizontai oi yphresiakoi ypoyrgoi poy qa toys antikatasthsoyn.\n-Stis 7 Martioy prokhryssontai ekloges kai stis 18 Martioy sygkroteitai h nea Boylh.-\nEikositetrawrh apergia pragmatopoioyn shmera oi symbasioyxoi toy dhmosioy, oi opoioi zhtoyn efarmogh ths odhgias toy Symboylioy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia thn katatajh symbasioyxwn me diadoxikes symbaseis se qeseis aoristoy xronoy.\nTo prwi sygkentrwqhkan sthn plateia Kotzia kai sth synexeia pragmatopoihsan poreia pros to ypoyrgeio Ergasias.Analogh sygkentrwsh diamartyrias apo symbasioyxoys toy dhmosioy pragmatopoihqhke kai sthn plateia ths Kamaras sth Qessalonikh.\nGia antidrastikes kai epikindynes idees kathgorei ton G. Papandreoy h GG ths KE toy KKE A.Paparhga se shmerinh dhlwsh ths, me thn opoia sxoliazei tis qeseis poy aneptyje o mellwn proedros toy PASOK sthn xqesinobradynh thleoptikh synenteyjh toy sth NET\nAnaferomenh sto qema ths paideias eipe oti o k.Papandreoy probale mia ejairetika antidrastikh kai epikindynh idea,poy brisketai stis apofaseis ths Mpolwnia kai toy Berolinoy.Oti,dhladh, oi apofoitoi toy Panepisthmioy qa prepei na pernane apo mia diadikasia pistopoihshs ths ikanothtas toys gia epaggelma. H grammateas toy KKE xarakthrise epishs ws ''monarxikh idea'' tis qeseis toy k. Papandreoy gia thn pagkosmiopoihsh:''O k. Papandreoy eipe oti h pagkosmiopoihsh dhmioyrgei polla problhmata kai telika xwrise thn ellhnikh koinwnia,ton ellhniko lao, se aytoys poy exoyn thn ikanothta na prosarmozontai kai se aprosarmostoys. Telos sxoliazontas ta legomena G.Papandreoy gia ideolhcies kai gia paralogismoys h k Paparhga eipe oti an apeyqynetai sto komma toy ayto den mas apasxolei, diko toy qema na to antimetwpisei.\nSynanthsh diarkeias mishs wras eixe o proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias Kwstas Karamanlhs me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias Amntoylax Gkioyl, shmera stis Bryjelles, sto periqwrio twn ergasiwn toy synedrioy toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos.\nSe dhlwseis toy meta th synanthsh o k. Karamanlhs tonise oti epanelabe ston Amntoylax Gkioyl thn pagia qesh ths Neas Dhmokratias gia sthrijh toy eyrwpaikoy prosanatolismoy ths Toyrkias.\nSe o,ti afora to Kypriako o proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias ypogrammise oti h ellhnikh pleyra yposthrizei th diejagwgh diapragmateysewn me bash to sxedio Anan kai thn anazhthsh mias biwsimhs kai leitoyrgikhs lyshs, h opoia qa einai symfwnh me tis apofaseis twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn kai me to Eyrwpaiko kekthmeno.\nTelos o k. Karamanlhs ejefrase thn elpida h prwtoboylia toy genikoy grammatea twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn gia epanalhch twn diapragmateysewn sto Kypriako ayth th fora na katalhjei se lysh.\n H dialysh ths Boylhs stis 11 Febroyarioy apofasisthke apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio\nH dialysh ths Boylhs stis 11 Febroyarioy,h dienergeia eklogwn stis 7 Martioy kai h sygklhsh stis 18 Martioy ths Boylhs poy qa prokycei apo tis ekloges apofasisthkan shmera sto ypoyrgiko symboylio.\nSymfwna me plhrofories sth shmerinh teleytaia synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths ekane apologismo\ntoy kybernhtikoy ergoy,tonise pws ''oloi mazi petyxame para polla gia thn proodo ths xwras'' kai anaferqhke me emfash stis oikonomikes epidoseis ths xwras,stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis kai sta alla zhthmata ths ejwterikhs politikhs.\nTo klima sth synedriash htan sygkinhtiko kai ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy emfanisqhkan aisiodoja gia to eklogiko apotelesma.\nH dialysh ths Boylhs stis 11 Febroyarioy, h dienergeia eklogwn stis 7 Martioy kai h sygklhsh stis 18 Martioy ths Boylhs poy qa prokycei apo tis ekloges apofasisthkan shmera sto ypoyrgiko symboylio.\ntoy kybernhtikoy ergoy, tonise pws ''oloi mazi petyxame para polla gia thn proodo ths xwras'', anaferqhke me emfash stis oikonomikes epidoseis ths xwras, stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis kai sta alla zhthmata ths ejwterikhs politikhs.\nTo teleytaio eklogiko barometro,poy kanei h VPRC gia logariasmo toy radiofwnikoy staqmoy SKAI,deixnei pws to PASOK periorizei th diafora kata mia monada.\nSygkekrimena sto erwthma sxetika me thn proqesh chfoy to 29,2% apanta PASOK kai to 32,7% ND.Ta antistoixa pososta prin mia bdomada htan 28,1% kai 32,6 % antistoixws. Ta pososta gia ta alla kommata einai KKE 3,5% (2,8%),SYN 2,1%(2,3%),DHKKI 0,5% (0,4%),LAOS 0,9% (0,7%).\nH ektimhsh ths proqeshs chfoy ,xwris dhladh anapofasistoys kai arnhseis, einai PASOK 42 (41) ,ND 46,5 (47),KKE 5 (4),SYN 3(3),\nDHKKI 0,5 (0,5) ,LAOS,1,5 (1).\nO genikos grammateas toy OHE, Kofi Anan, orise th 10h Febroyarioy ws thn hmera gia thn epanenarjh twn synomiliwn gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy, opws anakoinwqhke shmera apo ta Hnwmena Eqnh. O k. Anan, apesteile hdh epistoles stoys hgetes twn dyo pleyrwn sthn Kypro, kalwntas toys se synomilies stis 10 Febroyarioy, sthn edra toy dieqnoys Organismoy, sth Nea Yorkh. O Genikos Grammateas egrace epishs stoys prwqypoyrgoys ths Elladas, ths Toyrkias kai toy Hnwmenoy Basileioy zhtwntas toys na exoyn antiproswpoys gia na sthrijoyn to gegonos ayto, sth Nea Yorkh. Stoxos aytoy toy neoy gyroy synomiliwn, poy qa diejaxqoyn sth Nea Yorkh, einai na epiteyxqei egkairws symfwnia gia thn enwsh ths Kyproy, enocei ths entajhs ths sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh thn 1h Maioy. Stis epistoles toy, o Anan apeyqynei ekklhsh stoys hgetes na leitoyrghsoyn me thn anagkaia politikh boylhsh gia na feroyn ayto to apotelesma mesa sto syntomo diaqesimo xroniko diasthma.\nTo PASOK qa synexisei na efarmozei thn asfalistikh metarryqmish opws isxyei shmera kai parallhla qa eggyhqei ta kekthmena twn ergazomenwn kai syntajioyxwn, dhlwse o Giwrgos Papandreoy sthn prwth toy thleoptikh synenteyjh poy paraxwrhse sth NET xqes to brady. Parallhla o k. Papandreoy epekrine th ND oti meta apo tosa xronia sthn antipoliteysh proteinei metra ths kybernhshs 1990-93 toy k. Mhtsotakh, ta opoia eferan sygkroyseis, kaqhlwsan tis syntajeis kai ayjhsan ta oria hlikias syntajiodothshs. O neos hgeths toy PASOK apefyge thn pleiodosia se syntajiodotika kai alla qemata, protimwntas na anaferqei se politikes antimetwpishs problhmatwn opws h eisforodiafygh kai h forodiafygh, apo thn katapolemhsh twn opoiwn qa yparjoyn esoda poy qa dianemhqoyn analoga. Apantwntas se erwthseis sxetika me tis allages poy protiqetai na epiferei sto PASOK kai pio qa htan to timhma se periptwsh apotyxias, o k. Papandreoy dhlwse oti den qa empaine sthn politikh kai den qa analambane thn eyqynh ths dhmokratikhs paratajhs an den htan apofasismenos na proxwrhsei se tomes. Kai prosqese oti den blepei thn politikh ws epaggelma.\nana2html v2.01 run on Thursday, 5 February 2004 - 12:30:25 UTC