url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-04-14\n--1427249692-898581391-1302805103=:2074 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT\nPempth, 14 Aprilioy 2011\nAriqmos Deltioy: 326838026\nAqhna, 14 Aprilioy 2011\nH kybernhsh qa paroysiasei ayrio to plaisio Eqnikoy Sxediasmoy gia thn ejodo ths xwras apo thn krish, alla kai th genikoterh prooptikh ths. Ginetai jekaqaro oti den prokeitai gia ena synolo memonwmenwn parembasewn h apospasmatikwn ajiopoihsewn h ypagoreymenwn apo mia proswrinh logikh epeigontos.\nAntiqeta, prokeitai gia ena strathgiko programma gia thn oikonomia kai thn anaptyjh, entagmeno se ena plhres, alla kai sygkekrimeno plaisio anaforas, filosofias kai praktikhs, poy qetei toys pylwnes gia thn kybernhtikh drasthriothta, gia tis prooptikes kai to mellon ths xwras.\nEpipleon, ginetai jekaqaro oti ws ena eqniko strathgiko programma yperbainei kata poly tis apaithseis mias aplhs oikonomikhs ejygianshs, oso kai an einai krisimes kai paroyses kai gia tis opoies doyleyoyme edw kai megalo xroniko diasthma.\nTo mesoproqesmo strathgiko programma antikatoptrizei ton eqniko sxediasmo gia thn oikonomia, gia thn anaptyjh kai thn koinwnikh synoxh ths xwras.\nSxediazei strathgika thn ejygiansh kai thn endynamwsh ths oikonomias, me stoxo na thn katasthsei isxyrh kai ejwstrefh. Ton sxediasmo ayto, ton kaqista strathgiko kai makroproqesmo, ypotagmeno, oxi sth logikh ths antimetwpishs twn trexontwn problhmatwn alla sth dhmioyrgia basewn gia to mellon ths idias ths xwras.\nProwqei kai enisxyei thn ygih anaptyjh. Anaptyjh poy na sthrizetai se mia isxyrh oikonomia, thn opoia enisxyei peraiterw. Anaptyjh basismenh sthn ejwstrefeia, thn antagwnistikothta kai thn kainotomia, mesa sto plaisio enos synolikoy eqnikoy sxediasmoy poy protassei ena sygxrono kai strathgiko anaptyjiako montelo.\nDhmioyrgei tis baseis gia mia pragmatikh koinwnikh synoxh. Ayth poy phgazei apo thn ygih anaptyjh, mesa se ena isxyro periballon.\nPanw ap` ola, omws, prokeitai gia ena programma poy qetei stoxoys ylopoihsimoys kai realistikoys, qetei ta xronodiagrammata gia thn ektelesh toys kaqws kai toys mhxanismoys poy qa ejasfalizoyn thn ektelesh ayth.\nAytes einai oi shmantikes kainotomies toy programmatos.\nGia prwth fora sth xwra mas, h oikonomia, h anaptyjh kai h koinwnikh synoxh den ginontai antilhptoi ws jexwristoi kai polles fores allhlosygkroyomenoi h allhloanairoymenoi stoxoi, alla ws amesa demena kai allhloejartwmena stoixeia mias ygioys oikonomias kai anaptyjhs poy sthrizei, alla kai sthrizetai apo mia synektikh kai isxyrh koinwnia.\nGia prwth fora sth xwras mas aytoi oi stoxoi oxi mono enwnontai, alla sxediazontai makroproqesma kai strathgika, opws ofeiloyme na sxediazoyme mia eqnikh prospaqeia. To shmantiko strathgiko ayto sxedio, ofeiloyme oloi mas na to antimetwpisoyme me sobarh ajiopistia, me sobarothta, me synepeia, poy apaitei h embeleia toy kai h shmasia toy, makria apo eykairiakes logikes mhdenismoy kai anejodhs kritikhs. Ofeiloyme na to antimetwpisoyme opws einai, dhladh ws mia eqnikh prospaqeia, sxediasmenh me gnwmona thn ejygiansh ths oikonomias, ths anaptyjhs kai ths sthrijhs ths koinwnias.\nXIDIROGLOY: Fobatai h kybernhsh antarsia h an qelete diaforopoihsh boyleytwn ths pleiochfias, enocei ths kataqeshs sth Boylh toy mesoproqesmoy paketoy metrwn; Piezontai oi boyleytes me thn apeilh eklogwn;\nPETALWTHS: Emas, ayto poy mas endiaferei einai na bgoyme mprosta me ena sxedio poy bgazei th xwra mas apo thn krish. Me ena sxedio poy dhmioyrgei prooptikh sth xwra mas. Kai fysika, ayto to sxedio exei poly megalo eyros syzhthshs, qa perilambanei ena megalo plhqos zhthmatwn, qa exei polles parametroys kai paragontes gia na mporesei h xwra mas na paei mprosta. Oi boyleytes mas, oi boyleytes ayths ths periodoy, oi opoioi sthrizoyn to kybernhtiko ergo - kai sthrijh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy den einai aplws na zhtame na to chfisoyn, h sthrijh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy ginetai mesa apo mia eyreia syzhthsh, mesa sta organa poy symmetexoyn kai mesa sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada- einai aytoi poy pragmatika dinoyn kai to sthrigma kai th dynamh sthn kybernhsh na proxwrhsei se ayto poy kanei edw kai ena megalo xroniko diasthma. Synepws, emeis den qa mporoysame na blepoyme to rolo twn boyleytwn ws atoma poy erxontai kai chfizoyn h katachfizoyn. Mesa s` ayton ton strathgiko sxediasmo poy exoyme egkleiontai kai perikleiontai oles oi agwnies poy exoyn ekfrastei kata diasthmata, oles oi protaseis twn boyleytwn kai fysika, oles oi qeseis oi opoies exoyn diamorfwqei mesa apo mia dyskolh poreia, h opoia, fysika, apaitei enan eidiko sxediasmo. Kai oi boyleytes, ennoeitai, oti mesa s` ayto to plaisio antimetwpizan kai antimetwpizoyn kai ayton to sxediasmo kai sthn ayrianh Koinoboyleytikh Omada, qa ekfrastoyn. Synepws den tiqetai gia mas tetoio zhthma.\nKOYTRAS: Den tiqetai qema antarsias, ennoeite profanws. Qema dilhmmatos eklogwn apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, opws afhnei na ennohqei shmera megalh merida toy Typoy, tiqetai;\nPETALWTHS: Den yparxei tetoio qema kai o,ti kykloforei ws dilhmma einai ceydepigrafo, giati to eidame kai xqes kai shmera grammeno. Den tiqetai tetoio zhthma. Ayto poy qetei o Prwqypoyrgos, einai to sxedio na paei h xwra mprosta. Einai kai eimaste katwteroi twn peristasewn, osoi prospaqoyme na doyme ws mia eykairia anejodhs politikhs antiparaqeshs h ws mia eykairia dhmioyrgias ypotiqemenwn sygkroysewn mesa sto idio to PA.SO.K., ena tetoio sxedio, giati aytos o sxediasmos einai h elpida sto na bgoyme mprosta. Gia prwth fora, ginetai mia sobarh doyleia, yparxei mia sobarotath antimetwpish, me ena makroproqesmo orizonta, o opoios qa eprepe na yparxei edw kai para polla xronia, gia na mh badizoyme sta tyfla, opws badise polles fores h xwra mas. Synepws, olo ayto poy ginetai yperbainei mia syzhthsh peri chfoy h oxi. Einai jekaqaro oti den tiqentai tetoia zhthmata, tetoia dilhmmata ap` ton Prwqypoyrgo. Ayto poy qetei o Prwqypoyrgos, einai na analogistoyn oloi tis eyqynes toys, boyleytes, politikes dynameis, koinwnikes dynameis, etsi wste mesa ap` ayto to sxediasmo, epiteloys na mporoyme na milhsoyme sygkekrimena gia ejodo ths xwras apo thn krish, alla kai gia thn poreia ths meta apo thn ejodo ayth. Einai sobares oi stigmes poy pername, edw kai enamish xrono. Stigmes oi opoies dhmioyrghsan se oloys mas kai empeiries kai eykairies, sto na janadoyme to rolo mas: Ton politiko, ton oikonomiko kai ton koinwniko.\nKOYTRAS: Ayrio qa akoysoyme sygkekrimena pragmata h qa akoysoyme ena geniko plaisio to opoio qa ejeidikeyqei to epomeno xroniko diasthma; Kai to lew ayto giati kykloforoyn diafores plhrofories oti den yparxei h telikh morfh aytoy toy sxedioy. Eidame kai xqes thn k. Diamantopoyloy na exei symfwnhsei se alla kai na ths zhteitai kati allo. Yparxei tetoio qema; Poios qa einai o tropos paroysiashs, ayto qelw na rwthsw.\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, oi ypoyrgoi kanoyn mia poly shmantikh doyleia kai fysika exoyn synergasia kai metajy toys kaqws kai me ton Prwqypoyrgo, giati ena sxedio tetoioy eidoys den qa mporoyse na ginetai qewrhtika h na grafetai se ena grafeio. H doyleia poy ginetai einai syllogikh kai synolikh. Me th symbolh olwn, perikleiontai oi draseis kai oi politikes olwn twn ypoyrgeiwn mesa s` ayto to sxedio poy qa paroysiastei. Den qa einai mia lista kapoiwn drasewn, poy qa htan poly eykolo na thn ejaggeiloyme. Einai ena oloklhrwmeno plaisio anaforas strathgikoy sxediasmoy, poy deixnei kai thn poreia ths xwras. Dhmioyrgei dromologhmena bhmata. Einai sygkekrimeno se tetoio baqmo poy na peiqei, alla kai na orizei kai tis politikes mas draseis, apo edw kai pera. Perigrafei kai to pneyma kai th filosofia, gia to pws mporoyme na bgoyme apo thn krish kai na doyme thn poreia ths xwras mas meta apo aythn.\nMPEQANH: Epeidh einai megalo to endiaferon gia to ti qa akoysoyme ayrio apo ton Prwqypoyrgo gia tis apofaseis twn kybernhtikwn organwn, giati yparxei ena poly asxhmo klima poy exei diamorfwqei olo ayto to teleytaio diasthma, me antifatikes dhlwseis poy akoyme apo ajiwmatoyxoys ths Eyrwpaikhs 'Enwshs, oi opoies dhmioyrgoyn amfibolia ean telika qa piasoyn topo oi qysies twn politwn, kati poy exei pei h kybernhsh. Akoysame xqes ton k. Soimple poy eqese to qema ths anadiarqrwshs. Thn idia wra kai apo stelexh dika sas, apo boyleytes toy kybernwntos kommatos erxetai ayto to qema, na pame eqelontika na synennohqoyme me toys etairoys mas gia anadiarqrwsh. Epishs, akoyme kai apo ton legomeno pneymatiko kosmo, apo dhlwseis poy kanoyn sta mesa enhmerwshs, oti den yparxei elpida.\nPETALWTHS: Poios akribws einai o pneymatikos kosmos poy kanei tetoies dhlwseis;\nMPEQANH: Egw, toylaxiston, akoyga shmera to prwi ton k. Mpeh, alla kai alloys kaqhghtes poy exoyn pei oti den bgainei to programma, oti den yparxei elpida gia ton topo. Kai opws oloi fantazomai oi polites poy agwnioyn kai qeloyme na doyme an pragmati oi qysies mas qa piasoyn topo, yparxei ena ajiopisto programma; Qa akoysoyme kati sygkekrimeno ayrio apo ton Prwqypoyrgo poy qa apanta se olo ayto to klima twn teleytaiwn hmerwn;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, to klima dhmioyrgeitai apo anqrwpoys oi opoioi gnwrizoyn kai apo anqrwpoys oi opoioi den gnwrizoyn. Einai poly eykolo kai poly dhmofiles, na bgainei kaqenas kai na leei thn apoch toy. Qelw na pw oti kapoioi to kanoyn kaloproaireta kai kapoioi to kanoyn aplws gia na yparxoyn sthn epikairothta. Safestata, einai dikaiologhmeno kai einai eylogo na yparxei amfibolia, amfisbhthsh kai na ekfrazetai agwnia gia to poy pame. Emeis kai mesa ap' ayton ton sxediasmo poy qa paroysiastei ayrio apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla kai mesa apo thn drash mas, exoyme deijei kai qa deijoyme perissotero apo edw kai pera - giati qa einai pio organwmenh h prajh mas- oti safws pisteyoyme kai exoyme programma sto na bgoyme apo thn krish. Ean pisteyame oti den bgainei qa to legame ston ellhniko lao kai qa teleiwne. Qa legame ``etsi exoyn ta pragmata'', ``ayta einai ta dedomena'', ``den bgainoyme''. Alla emeis den egkataleipoyme thn prospaqeia. Eimaste pepeismenoi oti ayta poy kanoyme dinoyn diejodo se o,ti zoyme shmera kai se o,ti pername olo ayto to xroniko diasthma.\nOi qysies toy 'Ellhna polith, safws, kai qa piasoyn topo. Ta peri anadiarqrwshs, kapoies fores einai qewrhtikes anazhthseis kai analyseis anqrwpwn poy den exoyn ola ta dedomena. Kai ayto einai jekaqaro. Akomh kai anqrwpwn poy gnwrizoyn oikonomika kai mporoyn na poyn thn apoch toys kai kala kanoyn poy th lene. Alla ta dedomena kai tis apofaseis tis exei h kybernhsh kai to kratos. Kai h kybernhsh - h politeia- einai ayth poy apofasizei. Fysika, emeis, gia allh mia fora, leme oti den yparxei qema anadiarqrwshs. Kai malista, twra poy qa paroysiasoyme enan eqniko strathgiko sxediasmo, to na epimenoyn kapoioi mexri teleytaia stigmh gia anadiarqrwsh kai na dhmioyrgoyn mia filologia kai kyriws parafilologia, panw s' ayto to zhthma, den nomizw oti symballoyn me thn prajh toys ayth sto na dwsoyme ena diaforetiko periexomeno se o,ti pisteyei kaneis ws ejodo apo thn krish.\nAyto poy mporoyme na poyme sigoyra einai oti oi qysies toy ellhnikoy laoy qa piasoyn topo. Hdh, pianoyn topo. Na ypenqymisw oti hdh jefygame apo ton kindyno ths xreokopias. Osoi miloysan gia xreokopia kai apodeixqhke oti den xreokophsame, polloi apo aytoys miloyn gia anadiarqrwsh, pisteyontas oti prosferoyn kai yphresies. Kapoioi malista apo aytoys twra miloyn gia anadiarqrwsh, amfiballw ean gnwrizoyn ti shmainei anadiarqrwsh kai poies qa htan oi synepeies ths. Panw s' ayto, yparxei sygkekrimenh qesh ths kybernhshs, se epipedo Prwqypoyrgoy, se epipedo ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn kai allwn ypoyrgwn. Kai egw, ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos to exw pei polles fores. Gia mas, to zhthma kai to stoixhma einai na throyme toys stoxoys toys opoioys qetoyme. Kai efoson throyme toys stoxoys mas kai synexizoyme th doyleia poy kanoyme ws kybernhsh me akomh pio beltiwmenes synqhkes kai me megalytero programmatismo, basei enos eqnikoy sxedioy, eimaste sigoyroi oti den qa xreiazetai na syzhtame gia alla pragmata pleon aytoy.\nQa moy epitrecete na pw, epeidh eipate gia pneymatiko kosmo - gi` ayto rwthsa gia poion pneymatiko kosmo- pragmati, einai poly shmantiko na akoyme anqrwpoys oi opoioi exoyn mia diaforetikh filosofia gia th zwh. Ofeiloyme, omws oloi, ayto to klima anhsyxias, amfibolias kai apogohteyshs, polles fores, poy yparxei na to doyme me mia nhfalia proseggish, na mh to dynamitizoyme. Afhnoyme ton Ellhna polith na skeftetai eleyqera kai na krinei thn kybernhsh kai tis kybernhtikes epiloges, tis epiloges ths antipoliteyshs kai twn politikwn dynamewn. Nomizw oti oloi, osoi qeloyme na symbaloyme - an qeloyme na legomaste kai anqrwpoi toy pneymatos- qa prepei na dhmioyrghsoyme ena klima nhfaliothtas, etsi wste oles oi proseggiseis na einai sobares, na exoyn metro kai na mporoyn na antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta kai stis proklhseis twn kairwn. Einai ayto poy exei anagkh o topos kai oi polites.\nXASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, wstoso sthn Eyrwph exei anoijei mia oloklhrh koybenta gia to qema ths anadiarqrwshs, oxi mono ths Elladas, genikotera twn adynamwn xwrwn. Ayth th syzhthsh, pws thn eisprattei h kybernhsh; Giati o k. Soimple ayta ta pragmata poy leei, den ta leei tyxaia. Kai qa hqela ena sxolio ep` aytoy.\nPETALWTHS: Oi syzhthseis poy ginontai sthn Eyrwph einai polles. Se epishmo epipedo, den ginontai syzhthseis gia anadiarqrwsh. Einai qemites oi qewrhtikes anazhthseis poy ginontai sto plaisio synenteyjewn h sto plaisio kapoiwn eyryterwn syzhthsewn. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti antapokrinontai kai sto sxediasmo ths E.E., h opoia me ton pleon epishmo tropo kai malista poly-poly prosfata, sth Synodo Koryfhs ths 25hs Martioy, katelhje sto na qespisei ena monimo mhxanismo sthrijhs. Ayto shmainei oti yparxei qesmoqethmeno, pleon, plaisio ws pros tis epiloges ths, ws pros thn bohqeia poy mporei na parexei kai ws pros thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn se adynames xwres, poy paroysiazoyn problhmata oikonomikhs krishs, opws einai kai h xwra mas. Dhladh, oi epiloges ths E.E. einai safeis. Ayth h epilogh antimetwpishs xwrwn me problhmata opws h Ellada, antanaklatai kai apotypwqhke me ton pleon epishmo tropo sth Synodo Koryfhs ths 25hs Martioy. Apo ekei kai pera, oi qewrhtikes anazhthseis poy ginontai h o,ti apomonwnetai sto plaisio mias synenteyjhs, den apotelei oyte epishmh, alla oyte kai kyriarxh apoch mesa sthn Eyrwph. Einai shmantiko na akoyme - gi` ayto lew oti yparxoyn kaloproaireta kai kakoproaireta senaria, eidika ta kakoproaireta- kai oloi mas qa prepei na ekpaideytoyme gia to ti akoyme kai na ta diaxwrizoyme. Alla emeis exoyme toys stoxoys mas. Apoceis mporei na exei kaqenas. Emeis exoyme ta dedomena. Emeis kanoyme mia sobarh analysh. Oxi mono h Ellada, alla kai h E.E. sthn prajh exei apanthsei panw s` ayta ta senaria me sygkekrimenes epiloges.\nXASAPOPOYLOS: Ara, eseis lete oti efoson den yparxei epishmh syzhthsh, den yparxei gia mas qema anadiarqrwshs.\nPETALWTHS: Emeis, oytws h allws, leme oti den yparxei qema anadiarqrwshs. Alla kai epishmh syzhthsh - kai otan lew epishmh den ennow anakoinwmenh kai apofasismenh syzhthsh, alla syzhthsh mesa se eyrwpaika organa- safws kai den yfistatai. H monh epishmh, sobarh kai apotypwmenh isxyrotath apoch ths E.E. einai h dhmioyrgia monimoy mhxanismoy sthrijhs twn xwrwn poy exoyn oikonomiko problhma. Kai liges meres meta ap` ayth thn apofash, den mporoyme, anairwntas ayth thn apofash ths E.E., na arxisoyme na milame gia mia genikoterh, synolikoterh kai syllogikoterh anadiarqrwsh twn xwrwn ths E.E.\nXASAPOPOYLOS: Makari na thn jekinoysame emeis ayth thn koybenta, alla den thn jekiname kai to jerete poly kala. Epishs, ayto poy hqela na sas rwthsw, an mporeite na mas peite, sto paraskhnio h kybernhsh exei ejetasei senaria anadiarqrwshs;\nPETALWTHS: Den yparxei logos na ejetasei senaria anadiarqrwshs. Ekeino to opoio exei na kanei h kybernhsh kai einai sobarotath doyleia, toso sobarh poy aporriptetai opoiodhpote allo senario, einai na bazei stoxoys kai na toys threi. Oso pio makroproqesmoys, oso pio baqyteroys kai aitiologhmenoy stoxoys, me anaptyjiakes kai koinwnikes proektaseis qetei h kybernhsh -poy shmainei qeseis ergasias, koinwnikh synoxh, poy shmainei na arxisei na paragei anaptyjh- toso apokleietai h syzhthsh allwn senariwn. Kai ayto kanoyme me ayto ton eqniko strathgiko sxediasmo. Akribws, aytoys toys stoxoys me tis baqies proektaseis, prospaqoyme na qesoyme.\nKOYTRAS: Milhsate gia thn E.E. Omws yparxei kai ena metwpo sto eswteriko, yper ths anadiarqrwshs, to opoio to teleytaio xroniko diasthma, eidika thn teleytaia ebdomada, emfanizetai apo boyleytes toy PA.SO.K. Dhladh, h k. Basw Papandreoy h opoia eipe oti einai yper ths anadiarqrwshs kai o k. Paris Koykoylopoylos xqes, o opoios epanelabe oti gi` ayto to qema, to gorgon kai xarin exei.\nPETALWTHS: Apanthsa xqes. O k. Koykoylopoylos eipe kai alla pragmata. Kaqenas exei tis apoceis toy, einai dikaiwma toy na ekfrazei tis apoceis toy kai na kanei tis protaseis toy. Alla h apofasismenh kybernhtikh politikh apotypwnetai me bash sygkekrimena dedomena, ta opoia exei h kybernhsh kai m` ayta ta dedomena lambanontai oi apofaseis kai oi epiloges poy ginontai.\nTZANNETATOS: Eipate oti polloi ap' aytoys poy miloyn gia anadiarqrwsh, den exoyn mprosta toys ola ta dedomena. Eseis, ws kybernhsh, ta exete. Wstoso, ap' o,ti fainetai, den exete kataferei na peisete oti yparxoyn kapoies prooptikes, prokeimenoy na glitwsei h xwra apo thn anadiarqrwsh. Qewreite oti me ayto ton eqniko sxediasmo poy lete, qa dwsete mian apanthsh se ola ayta kai oti qa yparjei mia prooptikh gia th xwra;\nPETALWTHS: Den einai eykolo to na peisoyme, giati akribws exoyme na antimetwpisoyme tis pio reystes kai tis pio dyskoles oikonomikes kai politikes synqhkes apo th metapoliteysh kai meta. Apo thn prwth stigmh, eixame na antimetwpisoyme thn apeilh ths xreokopias. Thn antimetwpisame. Den yparxei megalyterh apodeijh oti to ergo mas paragei kai apotelesmata. Jefygame apo to xeilos ths xreokopias. Fysika, me thn kaqhmerinh doyleia poy ginetai, ayth akribws h doyleia toy na peisoyme - kai fainetai oti peiqoyme- toys pantes oti mporoyme na ta kataferoyme. Eidikotera:\nTo oti yparxei apofash apo thn Eyrwpaikh 'Enwsh panw se sygkekrimenes beltiwseis ths ejyphrethshs twn daneiakwn mas anagkwn, fainetai oti peiqoyme kai malista peiqoyme etairoys, oi opoioi hsan kai einai apo th fysh toys, alla kai apo th logikh kai praktikh toys, poly dyskoloi. 'Ara, fainetai oti kataferame kai peisame pws mexri twra opws badizoyme, dhmioyrgoyme prooptikes gia th xwra mas, oti eimaste ajiopistoi synomilhtes kai ayto einai para poly shmantiko. Kai fainetai ti egine me mas, se antiqesh me alles xwres, oi opoies antimetwpizoyn oikonomika problhmata.\nOmws, to qema den einai na peisoyme aplws. To qema einai na qesoyme tis baseis gia thn prooptikh ths xwras mas. Aytes tis baseis qetoyme me to plaisio poy qa anakoinwqei ayrio kai to opoio qa paroysiasei o Prwqypoyrgos, etsi wste na einai pio dromologhmena, pio apta kai me proteraiothtes ayta poy qa ginoyn sth xwra mas apo edw kai pera.\nTZANNETATOS: Pontarete, dhladh, s' ayto politika gia na jeperasei h xwra ayta ta senaria;\nPETALWTHS: 'Exw pei pws h apanthsh s' ayta ta senaria - giati peri senariwn prokeitai, gia ta opoia ginontai syzhthseis edw ki enamish xrono- einai h pragmatikothta. Kai h pragmatikothta einai ayth poy zoyme kai sxediazoyme, etsi wste h xwra mas na apokthsei prooptikh.\nXIDIROGLOY: Sas akoysa sthn eisagwgh sas na anaferesqe sthn anagkh prostasias ths koinwnikhs synoxhs. Blepoyme omws poly sobara problhmata sth leitoyrgia twn nosokomeiwn. O eyaisqhtos xwros ths ygeias plhttetai apo thn ypoxrhmatodothsh. Kai den to lew egw ayto. Pws skopeyei h kybernhsh na antimetwpisei to problhma; Kai to rwtaw ayto giati h syzhthsh gia ta qemata ths ygeias kai ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn ta nosokomeia sernetai - as moy epitrapei h ekfrash- poly kairo kai omws den blepoyme na yparxoyn lyseis.\nPETALWTHS: To qema ths ygeias einai apo ta pleon kayta zhthmata, giati exoyn thn oikonomikh toys parametro poy einai shmantikotath kai kyriws exoyn thn koinwnikh toys antanaklash, mias kai prokeitai gia to kat' ejoxhn dhmosio agaqo, to opoio ofeilei to kratos na prostateysei.\nGnwrizoyme, epishs, para poly kala oti ta xreh mas kai o xwros genika ths ygeias eixe fqasei sto nadir ths ajiopistias, sto nadir ths antimetwpishs apo thn pleyra toy dhmosioy. Klhqhkame, mesa stis dyskoloteres synqhkes, ola ayta na ta antimetwpisoyme: Promhqeytes, periorismo twn ejodwn kai ths spatalhs. Gnwrizoyme para poly kala ti megalo panhgyri eixe sthqei edw kai xronia, gyrw apo ton xwro ths ygeias, me polla zhthmata ta opoia oytws h allws ekdhlwnontai kai sthn kaqhmerinothta. Mesa s' ayta ta plaisia, loipon, prospaqoyme, qetontas omws baseis kai gia ena dhmosio systhma ygeias to opoio qa einai antajio toy ellhnikoy laoy, na antimetwpisoyme thn kaqhmerinothta.\nEinai epomeno, mesa s' aytes tis synqhkes kai mesa se 18 mhnes - den yphrxe periptwsh- ta qemata ths ygeias poy exoyn polles kai baqies rizes na lyqoyn kai na antimetwpistoyn sto synolo toys. Ayto poy kanoyme twra einai na ta antimetwpizoyme me mia prooptikh. Mporei h kaqhmerinothta ston xwro ths ygeias na exei tis trexoyses anagkes kai apaithseis ths, anagkes megales kai tragikes poy exoyn amesh epiptwsh sthn paroxh yphresiwn ygeias, omws sto sxedio poy katartizoyme entassetai kai aytos o krisimotatos xwros. Gia na mporoyme na milame gia mia ygeia panw se alles baseis.\nOytws h allws ola ayta dromologoyntai: Sygxwneyseis nosokomeiwn me ameso apotelesma thn poly megalh peristolh twn dapanwn, alla oxi mono logistika kai maqhmatika, kyriws poiotika. 'Etsi wste na exoyme nosokomeia kalytera, poy qa ejoikonomoyn xrhmata, pragma poy shmainei oti ta xrhmata ayta poy qa ejoikonomoyntai qa epistrefoyn sthn paroxh ygeias. Ayto metafrazetai se artioterh kai poiotikoterh paroxh yphresiwn ygeias pros ton 'Ellhna polith.\nAkomh kai sthn prwtobaqmia periqalch, prospaqhsame mesa apo to IKA, me ta gnwsta problhmata, me tis terasties oyres, me tis terasties spatales, na dhmioyrghsoyme enan qesmo kalychs twn asfalismenwn toy IKA apo giatroys oi opoioi den entassontai organika sto IKA, alla synergazontai me ayto ws ejwterikoi, etsi wste na stamathsoyn oi oyres. Kai otan qa anaptyxqei h leitoyrgia aytoy toy systhmatos, pragmati qa yparjei beltiwsh, h opoia hdh arxizei na yparxei.\nPera apo ta megala problhmata poy ejakoloyqoyn na yfistantai ston xwro ths ygeias, qelw na katalhjw legontas oti h paroxh artiwn kai poiotikwn yphresiwn ygeias pros ton 'Ellhna polith apotelei stoixeiwdes dhmosio agaqo poy einai arrhkta syndedemeno me th zwh toy kai thn kaqhmerinothta toy.\nLIONAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dedomenhs ths shmerinhs apofashs toy Areioy Pagoy gia tis tesseris ergazomenes kaqaristries ston OPAP, oi opoies qa monimopoihqoyn pleon, h kybernhsh skopeyei na symmorfwqei me ayth thn apofash gia toys symbasioyxoys;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, to kratos exei sygkekrimenes leitoyrgies kai einai aytonohto pws prepei na symmorfoymeqa me tis dikastikes apofaseis. Ayto einai dedomeno. Opws oles tis apofaseis ths dikastikhs ejoysias, etsi kai th sygkekrimenh, qa prepei na th doyme me th sobarothta poy enexei to periexomeno mias dikastikhs apofashs. Kalo qa htan na mhn probainoyme se genikeyseis, oi opoies polles fores dhmioyrgoyn alles entypwseis stoys exontes ennomo symferon. Kai me ayth th sobarothta - ennoeitai- h kybernhsh antimetwpizei th sygkekrimenh dikastikh apofash.\nSABBOPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to sxedio poy qa paroysiasei ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos, mhpws perilambanei kai kapoies prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs gia to qema ths anergias poy an den kanw laqos exei fqasei sto 15% h qa einai sto genikotero plaisio ths ejodoy apo thn krish kai ayto;\nPETALWTHS: To megeqos ths anergias poy einai ena shmantika eyaisqhto megeqos, safws kai prospaqoyme na to antimetwpisoyme. Omws, h anergia den antimetwpizetai me kapoies magikes lyseis h syntages. H anergia einai apotokos ths yfeshs, thn opoia perimename kai gnwrizame oti qa baqainei. Briskomaste twra sto baqytero shmeio ths yfeshs. Apo toyde kai sto ejhs, prosblepoyme se qetikotera apotelesmata, kaq' oti dromologoyntai oi proypoqeseis gia na yparjei qetiko proshmo sthn anaptyjh apo to 2012, pragma poy shmainei oti qa symparasyrei kai tis qeseis ergasias pros ta epanw.\nApo ekei kai pera, entos toy sygkekrimenoy plaisioy, emeis prospaqoyme na xrhsimopoihsoyme ola ta ergaleia -dhmioyrgwntas parallhla nea- sthrijhs twn yfistamenwn qesewn ergasias, alla kai sthrijhs ths ergasias genikotera, pros antimetwpish ths anergias. 'Etsi wste na mporesoyn na sthrixqoyn oi anqrwpoi poy antimetwpizoyn problhma anergias, alla kai oi epixeirhseis poy diathroyn qeseis ergasias mesa s' ena asxhmo oikonomiko periballon. Kai tis diathroyn mesa apo sygkekrimena ergaleia, mesw programmatwn toy OAED kai toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias poy einai poly shmantika.\nEn katakleidi, qelw na pw pws mesa s' ayta ta sygkekrimena plaisia prospaqoyme kai kinoymeqa, gia na periorisoyme thn anergia, oso mporoyme perissotero. Prospaqoyme, me kaqe meso poy diaqetoyme, na sthrijoyme thn ergasia, gnwrizontas oti h anergia qa meiwnetai oso dhmioyrgeitai anaptyjh, oso phgainoyn kala kai ta oikonomika mas pragmata.\nKOYTRAS: Telika, kyrie Ekproswpe, me thn Keratea yparxoyn deyteres skeceis sthn kybernhsh na allajei o sxediasmos; Shmera eidame pws antedrasan oi katoikoi, eyrhmatika qa elega: 'Eskacan enamish metro tafro sth mesh ths lewforoy Layrioy. Protiqesqe na kamete kati gi' ayto to pragma h qa kylaei kaqhmerina me ena neo epeisodio;\nPETALWTHS: Gia ta symbainonta sthn Keratea se syndyasmo me th dhmioyrgia XYTY eimaste oi prwtoi kai oi monoi poy exoyme sxedio, sto plaisio toy perifereiakoy sxediasmoy. Ean aytos ginotan prin apo kapoia xronia, shmera, den qa eixame ayta ta epeisodia.\nAsfalws kai den yparxei periptwsh na doyme thn Keratea ws ena epeisodio lhchs astynomikwn metrwn. Qa adikoysame th doyleia poy hdh ginetai kai prospaqoyme na kanoyme ston xwro twn XYTY.\nOmws, qa prepei oloi na antilhfqoyn -symperilambanomenwn ekeinwn poy skaboyn tafroys- tis synepeies poy endexomenws qa ypostoyn. Oydeis einai anejelegktos. Kaneis den mporei na stamata enan sxediasmo poy exei na kanei me thn ygeia, to periballon, alla kai me thn idia th zwh twn anqrwpwn. Sto plaisio, loipon, poy molis sas anefera, h kybernhsh etsi antimetwpizei to qema ths Kerateas.\nKOYTRAS: Na sas pw oti to qema einai panw apo treis mhnes, ta epeisodia einai panw apo 40 hmeres, o antartopolemos, opote, profanws, ayta poy mas lete mallon den isxyoyn.\nPETALWTHS: Isxyoyn. Aplws emeis den blepoyme ta pragmata epifaneiaka. Oyte to qema ths Kerateas periorizetai apla se mia astynomikh parembash. To qema einai baqytero kai ws tetoio to antimetwpizoyme.\n'Oson afora toys dhmioyrgoyntes katastaseis toioytoy eidoys, kapote qa prepei na antilhfqoyn oti den mporoyn na symperiferontai me ayto ton tropo.\nZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh xqes, meta to ranteboy ths ypoyrgoy Paideias me ton Prwqypoyrgo fanhke oti den katelhjan se kapoies apofaseis, alla en tw metajy ayrio paroysiazetai to mesoproqesmo programma, hqela na sas rwthsw ean kat' arxas breqhke kapoia allh odos na breqoyn ayta ta 300 ekatommyria eyrw poy fainetai oti einai anelastikes dapanes toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias h ean peisthke o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn kai o Prwqypoyrgos oti prokeitai gia anelastikes dapanes kai den xreiazetai na kopoyn.\nPETALWTHS: Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos ayrio qa paroysiasei to eqniko sxedio. Gnwrizoyme, epishs, ti doyleia ginetai ston xwro ths Paideias me peristolh dapanwn, megalo symmazema, to opoio ginetai parallhla me tis megales allages tis opoies pragmatopoiei to ypoyrgeio Paideias se ola ta epipeda.\nSynepws, to na milame memonwmena kai sthrizomenoi se fhmologies, den arkei kai etsi adikoyme th synolikh prospaqeia poy ginetai. Fysiko einai oi ayrianes apofaseis na yperboyn mia aplh anafora. Apofaseis poy asfalws qa anaferontai kai ston sxediasmo gia thn Paideia.\nZAFEIRIADOY: Na sas rwthsw kai kati akomh: Epeidh shmera yparxei ena sxetiko dhmosieyma, th stigmh poy o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn caxnei na mazecei tosa xrhmata apo perikopes, einai prepon na meiwnei ta prostima se etaireies plhroforikhs kai malista sto miso, apo 400.000 se 200.000 eyrw;\nPETALWTHS: 'Etsi poy to rwtate memonwmena, to ``prepon'' kai ``mh prepon'' den einai qema genikhs qewrhshs. To ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn kanei th doyleia toy me plhrh sebasmo sth nomimothta, alla epishs kai me ton proshkonta sebasmo toy dhmosioy xrhmatos. Ayto einai jekaqaro.\nXASAPOPOYLOS: 'Hqela na sas rwthsw gi' ayto poy egine sto nosokomeio ``ALEJANDRA''. Qa anazhthqoyn eyqynes;\nPETALWTHS: 'Exei hdh diataxqei enorkh dioikhtikh ejetash kai proxwra h ypoqesh, ws pros ayto.\nXASAPOPOYLOS: Oi eyqynes poy entopizontai; 'Exete mia prwth ektimhsh giati eginan ola ayta; Einai h dioikhsh, einai oi syndikalistes, einai oi ergazomenoi;\nPETALWTHS: H enhmerwsh poy exw mexri stigmhs einai oti exei diataxqei EDE, prokeimenoy na diapistwsoyme ean kai poy yparxoyn eyqynes, gia na mhn epanalhfqoyn sto mellon tetoia fainomena.\nKalo apogeyma. --1427249692-898581391-1302805103=:2074--\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Thursday, 14 April 2011 - 18:17:58 UTC


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url: = POLYBIOY - ANAKRITIKH - PROEDROS XRISTOFIAS\n YPOYRGOS OIKONOMIKWN - DKT - SYNANTHSH\n YPOYRGOS EMPORIOY - HLEKTRISMOS - KOSTOS\n E/K KAI T/K SYNDIKALISTES - OYNFIKYP\nThn idia metaxeirish me oloys toys alloys poy paroysiazontai enwpion ths Monomeloys Anakritikhs Epitrophs gia to Mari qa exei o Proedros ths Dhmokratias Dhmhtrhs Xristofias, dhlwse o Epikefalhs ths Epitrophs Polys Polybioy.\nMilwntas meta th diadikasia twn dhmosiwn synedriasewn thn Pempth, epanelabe oti to porisma toy qa oloklhrwqei stis 30 Septembrioy kai h apofash gia dhmosiopoihsh toy askei prosqeth piesh wste ayto na einai etoimo mexri th sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia.\n``Ayto synista mia sobarh ejelijh (h apofash gia dhmosiopoihsh) kai qa prepei na me kamei akomh pio prosektiko sto xeirismo opoiwndhpote qematwn poy endexomenws na exoyn proektaseis sthn poinikh ereyna'', eipe, prosqetontas oti ``den prepei na pw h na kamw otidhpote to opoio na ephreasei me opoiondhpote tropo thn poinikh diadikasia''.\nEipe akomh oti parekalese oloys toys dikhgoroys kai toys alloys na ton bohqhsoyn akomh perissotero gia na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia me thn ypobolh toy porismatos stis 30 Septembrioy.\nO k. Polybioy eipe oti ``gi ayto enw sto xwro twn oytw kaloymenwn politikwn eyqynwn qa exw arketh ejoysia kai eyelijia qa elega, oson afora tis poinikes h peiqarxikes eyqynes qa prepei na eimai prosektikos, na katagrafw ta gegonota, na ekqetw th nomikh ptyxh kai na ypoballw eishghseis pros ton Geniko Eisaggelea''.\nProsqese oti gia tis nomikes eyqynes den qa proxwrhsei peran twn eishghsewn enw ws pros thn apodosh kai katagrafh politikwn eyqynwn, poy prokyptoyn dhladh apo thn ektelesh ajiwmatos h armodiothtas, ayto einai to kentriko shmeio ths ergasias toy kai ekei qa epikentrwqei.\nO k. Polybioy eipe oti o Proedros ths Dhmokratias qa paroysiastei enwpion ths Epitrophs thn erxomenh Deytera stis deka to prwi, qa probei se mia syntomh dhlwsh kai sth synexeia qa ypoblhqei se erwthmata.\nEipe oti ``parekalesa na einai parontes mono oi syggeneis, oi dikhgoroi kai oi dhmosiografoi oytws wste na mhn yparxei polykosmia kai na mporesoyme na diejagoyme th diadikasia oso pio kala mporoyme''.\nErwthqeis an yparxei periptwsh o Proedros na klhqei enwpion ths Epitrophs se deyterh diadikasia, eipe oti ola qa ejarthqoyn apo to pws qa proxwrhsei h diadikasia, legontas oti ``se poly ejairetikes periptwseis qa anagkastw na kalesw kapoion jana''.\nEjefrase thn pepoiqhsh oti qa parei oles tis plhrofories me thn prwth fora kai an symbei kati anapantexo, shmeiwse, ``den mporei na apokleisw kanena``.\nTo deytero paketo metrwn gia ejygiansh twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn alla kai oi proetoimasies poy diejagei to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn gia ton katartismo toy Proypologismoy gia to 2012, breqhkan sto epikentro synanthshs poy eixan sthn Kentrikh Trapeza o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn Kikhs Kazamias kai o Dioikhths ths KT Aqanasios Orfanidhs.\nSe dhlwseis toy meta to telos ths synanthshs, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, afoy ejhghse oti h synanthsh entassetai sto plaisio twn qesmoqethmenwn pleon synanthsewn poy symfwnhsan na pragmatopoioyn ana takta xronika diasthmata oi dyo ajiwmatoyxoi, eipe oti kata th shmerinh synanthsh o Dioikhths ths KT ton enhmerwse ``gia ta apotelesmata twn synanthsewn poy eixe tis teleytaies meres stis HPA sta plaisia ergasiwn toy DNT kai oxi mono''. Anefere epishs pws kai aytos me th seira toy enhmerwse ton Aqanasio Orfanidh anaforika me tis epafes kai ta apotelesmata ths syzhthshs poy diejhxqh anaforika me to prwto paketo metrwn, syzhthsh h opoia oloklhrwqhke me thn chfish twn sxetikwn nomosxediwn thn perasmenh Paraskeyh apo th Boylh twn Antiproswpwn, alla kai sxetika me tis proetoimasies poy ginontai gia to deytero paketo opws epishs kai se o,ti afora thn proetoimasia toy proypologismoy gia to 2012.\n``Antilambaneste oti yparxei poly yliko koinoy endiaferontos, yparxoyn qemata programmatismoy poy aforoyn toso to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn oso kai thn KT, sta plaisia twn drasthriothtwn ths EE, sta qemata sxediasmoy alla kai lhchs apofasewn xrhmatopistwtikoy endiaferontos'' eipe, prosqetontas pws ``gia ola ayta dyomish wres den mporoyn na qewrhqoyn megalo xroniko diasthma''.\nErwthqeis kata poso o Dioikhths ths KT qewrei oti ta metra poy lhfqhkan kai poy prokeitai na lhfqoyn kinoyntai pros th swsth kateyqynsh dedomenhs ths qeshs poy exei epaneilhmmena ekfrasei gia thn anagkh prowqhshs diarqrwtikwn allagwn sthn oikonomia, o k. Kazamias anefere pws o idios den mporei na milhsei ek meroys toy Dioikhth, shmeiwse wstoso pws ola ayta ta qemata syzhthqhkan.\nPrwta prepei na desmeyqei to kratos me xorhgia gia to kostos ths zhmias kai meta na kataqesoyme aithsh gia bohqeia apo to Tameio Allhleggyhs ths EE, dieykrinise h Ypoyrgos Emporioy, Biomhxanias kai Toyrismoy, Prajoyla Antwniadoy, prosqetontas oti me pollh ypeyqynothta h Kybernhsh exei proseggisei to qema ths apokatastashs toy hlektrismoy kai se 1.5 mhna meta thn katastrofh ths 11hs Ioylioy apokatesthse thn paroxh reymatos.\nSe dhlwseis ths sto Ypoyrgeio, h k. Antwniadoy eipe oti olh ayth h apotelesmatikh prospaqeia ths AHK exei apodwsei kai twra briskomaste se katastash oriakhs eparkeias opoy h zhthsh kalyptetai apo thn paragwgh kai apokopes qa ginontai mono se periptwsh poy yparxei blabh se kapoia apo tis monades. Olh ayth h prospaqeia eixe kostos, to opoio eixe analhfqei monomerws apo thn Arxh Hlektrismoy kai gia na mporei h AHK na synexisei na leitoyrgei eprepe na analhfqei apo oloys mas gia na mporesoyme oloi na exoyme ayto to agaqo poy legetai hlektrismos, poy einai aparaithto gia thn oikonomia kai th zwh mas, shmeiwse h Ypoyrgos.\nTo kratos, synexise, katebale idiaiteres prospaqeies na periorisei thn opoiadhpote anagkaia epibarynsh stis times kai se ayth thn prospaqeia exei melethsei kai tis dynatothtes aithshs bohqeias apo to Tameio Allhleggyhs ths EE. Pragma poy - opws eipe - ekane olo ayton ton kairo ``xwris polla logia``, xarakthrizontas taytoxrona eytyxes to gegonos oti oi ayjhseis den einai aytes ``poy hqelan na epibaloyn oi efhmerides h kapoia stelexh ths antipoliteyshs poy miloysan gia 40% ayjhseis stis times``.\nTo kratos me pollh ypeyqynothta, synexise, apofasise na kalycei meros toy kostoys ths AHK poy afora ta enoikia gia tis gennhtries poy qa parajoyn reyma, ycoys 24.5 ek eyrw gia to ejamhno apo thn 1/9/2011 mexri telos Febroyarioy 2012 kai an xreiastei, qa doqoyn alla 24.5 ek eyrw gia to epomeno ejamhno. An oloklhro to poso toy ayjhmenoy kostoys metaferotan stis times toy hlektrikoy reymatos, eipe h k. Antwniadoy, h ayjhsh qa eftane gyrw sto 16%, enw ekeino poy apomenei kai metaferqhke stoys logariasmoys twn katanalwtwn einai to kostos twn kaysimwn. Epeidh, ejhghse, oi monades sth Monh kai Dekeleia katanalwnoyn perissotera kaysima gia na parajoyn thn idia posothta hlektrismoy ap` oti sto staqmo toy Basilikoy. Ayto, synexise, einai to mono kommati poy h RAEK apofasise na metakylhsei stis times kai anexetai sto 6.96%.\nThn arnhsh ths OYNFIKYP na paraxwrhsei adeia gia pragmatopoihsh dikoinotikhs ekdhlwshs se xwro ths nekrhs zwnhs kataggelloyn me koinh dhlwsh toys ellhnokypriakes kai toyrkokypriakes Syndikalistikes Organwseis. H dhlwsh anagnwsthke sthn ellhnikh kai sthn toyrkikh glwssa apo toys ekproswpoys twn organwsewn sto plaisio diaskechs Typoy poy diorganwsan sto Kentro Koinotikwn Meswn Epikoinwnias Kyproy, para to Lhdra Palas, me thn eykairia ths 1hs Septembrioy, h opoia kaqierwqhke apo thn Pagkosmia Syndikalistikh Omospondia ws Pagkosmia Hmera Drashs twn Syndikatwn gia thn Eirhnh.\nDiabazontas th dhlwsh, o GG ths PEO Pamphs Kyritshs anefere oti oi Organwseis ekfrazoyn thn apogohteysh kai th diamartyria toys ``gia to gegonos oti oi stratiwtikes arxes ths eirhneytikhs dynamhs twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn arnhqhkan na epitrecoyn stis organwseis mas na giortasoyn me dikoinotikh ekdhlwsh sto xwro ths nekrhs zwnhs, thn Pagkosmia Mera Drashs twn Syndikatwn gia thn Eirhnh''. Anefere oti ``h epiklhsh apo pleyras twn ajiwmatoyxwn ths UNFCYP praktikwn dyskoliwn kai logwn asfaleias den tekmhriwnontai kai gia mas akoyetai apla ws dikaiologia''.\nSthn Diaskech anagnwsthke, epishs, koinh diakhryjh gia thn 1h Septembrioy, sthn opoia oi Organwseis anaferoyn, metajy allwn, oti ``sth xwra mas, oi synepeies ths pagkosmias oikonomikhs krishs ephreazoyn toys ergazomenoys kai enw o eqnikismos, o ratsismos kai o neofasismos einai se anodo, o pio sobaros kindynos poy antimetwpizoyme einai synexish ths de facto diaireshs toy topoy mas''. ``O agwnas gia thn eirhnh kai thn epanenwsh ths xwras mas, apotelei basikh kai amesh proteraiothta mas. Paramenoyme staqera desmeymenoi sthn prospaqeia gia lysh dikoinotikhs dizwnikhs omospondias me politikh isothta twn dyo koinothtwn, opws ayth dialambanetai stis sxetikes apofaseis toy OHE kai sta plaisia enos kratoys me mia kyriarxia, mia iqageneia, mia dieqnh proswpikothta sthn bash twn symfwniwn ths 23hs Maioy kai ths 1hs Ioylioy 2008'', prostiqetai.\nOi Organwseis ekfrazoyn parallhla th sthrijh toys pros th diadikasia twn synomiliwn kai kaloyn toys hgetes twn dyo koinothtwn ``na synexisoyn na ergazontai akoma pio entatika me stoxo thn epiteyjh lyshs poy qa epanenwsei thn Kypro kai qa thn katasthsei eleyqerh, anejarthth kai patrida olwn twn Kypriwn''.\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Thursday, 1 September 2011 - 17:29:14 UTC


url: = Pr. Paylopoylos: Ejairetika shmantikos o rolos toy OHE, gia antimetwpish krisewn kai proklhsewn\n N. Filhs: Qa dwsoyme th maxh gia thn yperaspish kai thn anorqwsh toy dhmosioy sxoleioy\n Den qa paei sth Madrith o Kyriakos Mhtsotakhs, logw iwshs\n Ta ``kokkina'' daneia sto epikentro ths synanthshs toy G. Staqakh me toys qesmoys\n Asynodeytoi anhlikoi pairnoyn xrwmata kai xarti kai zwgrafizoyn th zwh poy oneireyontai\n Problhmata se perioxes ths Attikhs, apo thn isxyrh broxoptwsh\n Nea programmata me palia biblia: To kryfo ``agkaqi'' ths paideias\n Dikh XA: ``Anagkastikh'' diakoph ths diadikasias, logw broxhs\n ``Phone Home'', mia dieqnhs kallitexnikh synergasia me qema th metanasteysh\n ``H agaph kai to penqos gia th sygxronh Ellada pane mazi'' leei o Irlandos syggrafeas Ritsarnt Pain\n Ellhnikes tainies paragwghs 2005-2015 sto Dieqnes Festibal Kinhmatografoy ths Biennhs\n Synedriazei to ypoyrgiko symboylio ypo ton prwqypoyrgo Al. Tsipra\n Problhmata apo thn kakokairia sthn Hleia\n Perissoteroi apo 2.000 prosfyges apobibasthkan to prwi sto limani toy Peiraia\n``H Ellada, qa synexisei na symmetexei epoikodomhtika stis ergasies toy OHE kai, eidikotera, stis diergasies gia ton peraiterw ekdhmokratismo kai thn anabaqmish toy roloy toy, me apwtero stoxo thn enisxysh ths ikanothtas toy Organismoy na yphretei pista to dieqnes dikaio kai na prowqei to orama twn idrytwn toy gia enan eirhniko kai dikaio kosmo'' ypogrammise o Proedros ths Dhmokratias Prokophs Paylopoylos, kata ton xairetismo toy sthn ekdhlwsh gia ton Eortasmo twn 70 xronwn apo thn idrysh toy OHE poy pragmatopoihqhke shmera to prwi sto Moyseio ths Akropolhs.\n``Idiws de na epibalei thn telikh efarmogh twn apofasewn ths Genikhs Syneleyshs kai toy Symboylioy Asfaleias, afoy h mh efarmogh toys synista ena qesmikws kai politikws megalo ki epwdyno elleimma, opws apodeiknyei to paradeigma ths anoxhs ws pros thn synexish ths paranomhs toyrkikhs katoxhs tmhmatos ths Martyrikhs Kyproy, anejarthtoy Kratoys kai isotimoy meloys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai ths Eyrwzwnhs'' prosqese o Proedros.\nParallhla, tonise oti to diakybeyma einai filodojo, opws filodojo qewrhqhke apo kapoioys kai to olo egxeirhma twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn prin apo 70 xronia. Einai omws xreos mas apenanti sthn istoria mas kai, kyriws, enanti twn mellontikwn genewn, na to analaboyme kai na to yphrethsoyme me synepeia kai aytaparnhsh, epishmane, gia na prosqesei oti ``shmera o rolos toy OHE ejakoloyqei na einai ejairetika shmantikos kai krisimos gia thn antimetwpish palaiwn krisewn kai newn proklhsewn''.\n``Me kaqe tropo qa dwsoyme th maxh gia thn yperaspish kai anorqwsh toy dhmosioy sxoleioy. Ayth einai h entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy kai ayto qa ylopoihsoyme'' anefere proserxomenos sth Boylh gia th synedriash toy ypoyrgikoy symboylioy o ypoyrgos Paideias Nikos Filhs.\nO ypochfios proedros ths ND Kyriakos Mhtsotakhs den qa metabei telika sth Madrith gia to synedrio toy ELK gia logoys ygeias.\nXqes, meta thn epistrofh toy apo th Qessalonikh anebase pyreto logw iwshs kai akoloyqwntas odhgies twn giatrwn mataiwse to tajidi toy sthn Ispania.\nH anamorfwsh toy nomoy Katselh kai h diaxeirish twn ``kokkinwn'' daneiwn qa teqoyn sth synanthsh poy exei o ypoyrgos Oikonomias Giwrgos Staqakhs me toys qesmoys.\nSymfwna me plhrofories, oi daneistes zhtoyn h antikeimenikh ajia ths katoikias na mhn yperbainei tis 120.000 eyrw me eisodhmatiko krithrio na proseggizei ta oria ths ftwxeias.\nApo thn pleyra ths, h ellhnikh pleyra epimenei h antikeimenikh ajia na einai stis 300.000 eyrw to eisodhmatiko krithrio stis 35.000 eyrw, enw to synolo twn ofeilwn na mhn jeperna tis 250.000.\nSymfwna me plhrofories, h ellhnikh pleyra ektima oti me ayth thn protash qa doqei kalych sto 88% twn yperxrewmenwn noikokyriwn poy dynamei entassontai sto nomo Katselh h exoyn hdh entaxqei, enw phges toy ypoyrgeioy aneferan shmera se dhmosiografoys oti den qa yparjei allh ryqmish gia prostasia ths prwths katoikias, peran apo ayth poy qa perilambanetai ston anaqewrhmeno nomo Katselh.\nSth synanthsh poy eixe thn Tetarth o ypoyrgos Oikonomias G.Staqakhs me toys qesmoys, ta qemata poy syzhthqhkan, metajy allwn, htan h efarmogh ths ergaleioqhkhs toy OOSA gia to gala, cwmi, tis ekptwseis kai h peraiterw meiwsh ths grafeiokratias sthn adeiodothsh twn epixeirhsewn - ola qemata ta opoia dieyqetoyntai apo to ypoyrgeio - enw se oti afora sthn kyriakatikh leitoyrgia twn katasthmatwn oles tis Kyriakes toy etoys, anaferqhke apo thn ellhnikh pleyra oti anamenetai h apofash apo to Symboylio ths Epikrateias.\nGia tis ryqmiseis ths ergaleioqhkhs toy OOSA gia ta pota kai ta petrelaioeidh den exei oristei xronos efarmoghs dioti prepei na prohghqoyn meletes.\nSxetika me to idiokthsiako kaqestws twn farmakeiwn, h proteinomenh apo thn kybernhsh KYA fainetai na ginetai dekth apo toys daneistes. Sygkekrimena h KYA qa problepei th dynatothta symmetoxhs mh farmakopoioy sto metoxiko kefalaio toy farmakeioy xwris omws na einai o apokleistikos metoxos.\nTon Febroyario toy 2015 mia apo tis omades synodeias asynodeytwn anhlikwn ths organwshs ``METAdrash'' synodeyse 26 paidia apo thn Amygdaleza se domes filojenias sto Bolo kai thn Konitsa. Kata th diarkeia toy tajidioy, ena apo ta paidia phre xarti kai mpogies kai zwgrafise ton eayto toy me entona xrwmata kai ena poyli na to synodeyei. Kai prin oloklhrwsei th zwgrafia, egrace ``Egw eleyqeros''.\nTo 15xrono paidi einai mia xarakthristikh periptwsh asynodeytoy anhlikoy poy epeleje th zwgrafikh gia na ekfrasei tis skeceis, ta synaisqhmata, ta oneira kai ta biwmata toy.\nTh zwgrafikh gia na ekfrasei tis skeceis, ta synaisqhmata kai ta oneira ths epeleje kai mia 15xronh poy jekinhse apo to Afganistan to makry tajidi ths pros thn Eyrwph kai breqhke asynodeyth sthn Aqhna.\nOtan phre xrwmatista molybia sta xeria ths, zwgrafise ena koritsi, ``Mpexista'' to onomase, ena spiti kai enan kalo filo. To koritsi eixe ena diaplato xamogelo kai tote h 15xronh ejhghse sthn cyxologo poy htan dipla ths oti h Mpexista einai eytyxismenh giati exei tria pragmata: zei se eirhnh, menei me toys goneis ths kai oneireyetai oti mporei na spoydasei.\nEkatontades asynodeyta paidia synanta h cyxologos, Eya Mylwna, sto plaisio toy programmatos ``Diktyo Epitropeias Asynodeytwn Anhlikwn'', poy ylopoiei h ``METAdrash''.\nH zwgrafikh, opws ejhgei sto APE-MPE, einai gia ta paidia ayta meso ekfrashs kai enas tropos gia na omorfynoyn th zwh toys. Gia toys cyxologoys, apo thn allh pleyra, h zwgrafikh einai ena meso gia na proseggisoyn ta paidia kai na katanohsoyn tis skeceis kai ta biwmata toys.\nProblhmata prokalese se diafores perioxes ths Attikhs, h dynath broxh poy shmeiwqhke tis prwtes prwines wres.Eidikotera, sthn Eleysina xreiasthke h epembash ths Pyrosbestikhs, gia ton apegklwbismo dyo atomwn apo IX aytokinhto poy eixe akinhtopoihqei sth symbolh twn odwn Wkeanidoy kai Dhmokritwn, logw plhmmyras stoys dromoys ths perioxhs.\nParallhla, h Pyrosbestikh dexqhke, sth diarkeia ths nyxtas, deka klhseis, gia antlhseis ydatwn apo spitia se Eleysina, Menidi, Salamina, Pentelh kai Kalliqea.\nNea programmata spoydwn, alla me palio yliko. Aytes oi epta lejeis skiagrafoyn akomh ena ``agkaqi'' gia thn paideia kai eidika gia th deyterobaqmia ekpaideysh, kaqws h prajh ``Neo Sxoleio (Sxoleio 21oy aiwna)-Neo Programma Spoydwn'' oloklhrwqhke ton perasmeno Ioylio, xwris omws na exei proxwrhsei parallhla h syggrafh kai ekdosh newn bibliwn.\nH anantistoixia programmatos - bibliwn einai akomh pio entonh sto Lykeio opoy ta nea programmata isxyoyn apo fetos sthn A' kai B' Lykeioy, enw oi maqhtes didaskontai apo sxolika egxeiridia poy ekdoqhkan stis arxes ths dekaetias toy 1990, dhladh prin apo 25 xronia. Wstoso, qa xreiastoyn toylaxiston alla dyo xronia gia na ftasei sta xeria twn maqhtwn to neo ekpaideytiko yliko. Opws anaferoyn phges toy Institoytoy Ekpaideytikhs Politikhs sto APE - MPE, stis 30 Dekembrioy ``kleinei'' to programma toy ESPA apo to opoio xrhmatodothqhke to ``Neo Programma Spoydwn''.\nSe ``anagkastikh'' diakoph gia ligh wra proxwrhse to dikasthrio, poy dikazei thn ypoqesh ths Xryshs Ayghs, logw broxhs. H dikastikh aiqoysa twn fylakwn Korydalloy gemise, se polla shmeia, nera me apotelesma h proedros na diakocei th diadikasia, prokeimenoy na erqei ypallhlos gia na mazecei ta nera.\nSe ligh wra, to dikasthrio qa epanelqei prokeimenoy na synexistei h ejetash toy filoy toy Payloy Fyssa Dhmhtrh Melaxrinopoyloy, ston opoion apo to prwi ypoballoyn erwthseis oi synhgoroi yperaspishs twn kathgoroymenwn.\nSe mia idiotyph ``symmaxia'' poy afora s' ena neo qeatriko montelo dhmioyrgikhs synergasias kai politistikhs antallaghs kai syndyazei thn paragwgikh ergasia qeatrikwn koinothtwn, thn kallitexnikh diadrash mesw newn texnologiwn, kaqws kai th symmetoxh toy koinoy proxwrhsan h Ellada h Germania kai h Agglia.\nO logos gia thn eyrwpaikh qeatrikh drash ``Phone Home'', sto plaisio ths opoias, me bash th dhmioyrgikh ereyna mesw ths symmetoxikhs diadikasias, qeatrikes omades apo tis treis symmetexoyses xwres qa dhmioyrghsoyn mia koinh parastash, me qema th metanasteysh, thn epikoinwnia kai th nostalgia. H parastash programmatizetai na einai etoimh ton Oktwbrio toy 2016 kai qa pragmatopoihqei taytoxrona se Aqhna, Berolino kai Londino, se anoixth kallitexnikh epi skhnhs synergeia.\nOtan zhthqhke apo ton Irlando syggrafea Ritsarnt Pain na gracei ena biblio basismeno sthn taktikh toy sthlh ``Greece Letter'' poy dhmosieyetai stoys irlandikoys Times, hjere oti den qa htan ena biblio toy styl ``Agapw thn Ellada''.Oxi epeidh den agapaei th xwra - to antiqeto. O Pain, o opoios zei sthn Kerkyra ta teleytaia 15 xronia, exei anaptyjei mia baqia kai sygkinhtikh sxesh me th xwra h opoia ginetai emfanhs ston tropo poy perigrafei tis empeiries, tis parathrhseis kai tis filodojies toy gia thn Ellada.\n``H agaph kai to penqos gia th sygxronh Ellada pane mazi'' eipe se dhmosiografoys kata thn paroysiash toy biblioy toy sthn Aqhna thn Tetarth. Erwthqeis giati egrace ayto to biblio, to ``Greece through Irish Eyes'', apanthse oti o logos einai ``oi terasties, metafysikes omoiothtes metajy twn dyo xwrwn (Elladas kai Irlandias)''. Perigrafei mia episkech sto arxaio qeatro ths Epidayroy ws efhbos opoy enoiwse sygkinhsh blepontas symmaqhtes toy na apaggeloyn apospasmata arxaiwn ergwn ston idio xwro opoy akoysthkan gia prwth fora xiliades xronia prin.\nMia seira ellhnikwn tainiwn twn teleytaiwn deka xronwn (2005-2015) perilambanontai sto ``Eidiko Programma'' toy fetinoy, mh diagwnistikoy 58oy Dieqnoys Festibal Kinhmatografoy ths Biennhs ``Biennale 2015'', poy arxizei shmera Pempth kai diarkei mexri tis 5 Noembrioy, enw se ayto prokeitai na problhqoyn synolika 200 nees tainies apo diafores xwres.\nStis ellhnikes tainies poy qa problhqoyn sth diarkeia ths fetinhs "Biennale" sygkatalegontai oi : ``Dekembrhs 2008-Aqhna kai alloy'', ``Loyomenoi'', ``Epistrofh sthn odo Aioloy'', ``Ti wra einai'', ``Hlias Petropoylos-Enas kosmos ypogeios'', ``The Hunter'', ``Forget Me Not'', ``Kryfo sxoleio'', ``Prwth ylh, ``Mindfulness'', ``Requiem to a Shipwreck'', ``Mayro libadi'', ``Sto lyko'', ``Strella'', ``To agori trwei to faghto toy poylioy'' , ``To mikro cari'' kai ``XXXIII''.\nSe ejelijh einai synedriash toy ypoyrgikoy symboylioy ypo ton prwqypoyrgo Alejh Tsipra.\nSymfwna me plhrofories, sth synedriash anamenetai na syzhthqoyn, metajy allwn, o odikos xarths gia to epomeno diasthma, o syntonismos toy koinoboyleytikoy ergoy kai h anakefalaiopoihsh twn trapezwn.\nShmantika problhmata se polles perioxes ths boreiodytikhs Hleias exoyn prokalesei oi isxyres broxoptwseis, poy plhttoyn thn perioxh apo nwris shmera to prwi.Opws dhlwse sto APE - MPE o antiperifereiarxhs Hleias Giwrgos Gewrgiopoylos, ta perissotera problhmata katagrafontai ston dhmo Andrabidas - Kyllhnhs.Eidikotera, logw toy ogkoy toy neroy exoyn plhmyrisei spitia kai katasthmata sthn perioxh ths Bardas, enw exoyn parasyrqei staqmeymena aytokinhta.\nAnaloga problhmata katagrafontai epishs sthn perioxh ths Boyprasias, enw met' empodiwn ginetai h kykloforia twn oxhmatwn sthn eqnikh odo Patrwn - Pyrgoy.Akomh, oi entones broxoptwseis exoyn prokalesei zhmies se agrotikes kalliergeies. Gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn exei enisxyqei h Pyrosbestikh Yphresia Lexainwn, me dynameis apo geitonikes perioxes.\nPerissoteroi apo 2.000 prosfyges apobibasthkan to prwi sto limani toy Peiraia, enw anamenetai na ftasoyn peripoy alloi tosoi to meshmeri.\nEidikotera, apo to ploio ``Nhsos Rodos'' apobibasthkan 760 prosfyges, apo toys opoioys oi 170 epibibasthkan sto ploio apo th Xio kai oi 590 apo th Mytilhnh. Apo to ploio ``Mploy Star 1'' apobibasthkan 1395, apo toys opoioys oi 390 eixan epibibastei sth Xio kai oi 1005 sth Mytilhnh.\nStis 12:00 anamenetai na katapleysei ston Peiraia, to ploio ``Eleyqerios Benizelos'' me 2.493 prosfyges.\nana2html v2.01 run on Thursday, 22 October 2015 - 8:32:29 UTC


url: =Athens Macedonian News Agency: News in Greek, 16-04-09\n Peqane o Giannhs Aggeloy\n Oloklhrwqhke h syskech sto yp. Ejwterikwn gia to prosfygiko\n P.Paylopoylos: Anaptyjh me epikentro ton Anqrwpo\n Synelhfqhsan dyo atoma gia thn epiqesh sta grafeia ths efhmeridas ``Prwto Qema''\n A. Janqos: ``Apeilh gia th biwsimothta toy ESY, h metanasteysh twn episthmonwn''\nEfyge apo th zwh o epi seira etwn stenos synergaths toy prwhn prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Karamanlh, Giannhs Aggeloy. Apo to politiko grafeio toy Kwsta Karamanlh ejedoqh h ejhs anakoinwsh:\n``Ejepneyse shmera to prwi, sto Nosokomeio "Errikos Ntynan", meta apo makra maxh me ton karkino, o Giannhs Aggeloy, stenos synergaths kai episthqios filos toy k. Kwsta Karamanlh apo to 1981. O Giannhs Aggeloy gennhqhke to 1950 kai htan dikhgoros, apofoitos ths Nomikhs Sxolhs toy APQ. Htan pantremenos me thn ka Alejandra Moyrtza, me thn opoia apekthse dyo paidia, ton Aggelo kai ton Dhmhtrh.\nH ejodios akoloyqia qa telestei th Deytera 11 Aprilioy kai wra 14:30 ston Iero Nao Agioy Dionysioy Areopagitoy. Qa akoloyqhsei h tafh sto B' Nekrotafeio Aqhnwn. Paraklhsh ths oikogeneias einai, anti stefanwn, ta xrhmata na diateqoyn yper ths Ellhnikhs Antikarkinikhs Etaireias''.\nOloklhrwqhke h eyreia syskech poy htan se ejelijh apo to prwi sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, anamesa se polymelh antiproswpeia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai eji ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys kratwn-melwn ths EE, me antikeimeno thn prosfygikh kai metanasteytikh krish.\nAkoloyqei koinh synenteyjh Typoy toy k. Jydakh me ton Ollando ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Mpert Kenters, paroysia kai twn allwn symmetexontwn ypoyrgwn.Sth synexeia h eyrwpaikh antiproswpeia qa pragmatopoihsei episkech sthn anoikth domh filojenias prosfygwn ston Elaiwna, opoy qa toys ypodexqei o genikos grammateas Plhqysmoy kai Koinwnikhs Synoxhs Basileios Papadopoylos.\nH ellhnikh antiproswpeia, poy apoteleitai apo toys anaplhrwth ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, armodio gia tis Eyrwpaikes Ypoqeseis, Niko Jydakh, ton ypoyrgo Naytilias kai Nhsiwtikhs Politikhs Qodwrh Dritsa, ton anaplhrwth ypoyrgo Prostasias toy Polith Niko Toska, ton anaplhrwth ypoyrgo Metanasteytikhs Politikhs Giannh Moyzala kai ton geniko grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas Giannh Tafylh, enhmerwsetoys eji ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys kratwn-melwn ths EE gia th diaxeirish ths prosfygikhs kai metanasteytikhs krishs apo thn ellhnikh pleyra. Epishs, paroysiase tis ellhnikes qeseis ws pros thn poreia efarmoghs twn apofasewn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, tis praktikes alla kai tis epixeirhsiakes dysxereies poy synanta kai tis lyseis poy prokrinei gia thn antimetwpish toys, kaqws kai tis anagkes ths symfwnhqeisas syndromhs ek meroys ths EE kai twn kratwn-melwn.\nThn eyrwpaikh antiproswpeia apoteloyn o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Ollandias Mpert Kenters, ekproswpos ths xwras poy askei thn proedria toy Symboylioy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, o yfypoyrgos Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn ths Gallias Arlem Ntezir, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kai Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn ths Slobakias Miroslab Laitsak, o yfypoyrgos para tw prwqypoyrgw, armodios Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn ths Italias Santro Gkotsi, h yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Portogalias, armodia Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn Margkarinta Markes kai o yfypoyrgos sto ypoyrgeio Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn ths Maltas, Ian Mporgk, armodios gia thn proetoimasia ths proedrias ths Maltas sto Symboylio ths EE to 2017 kai th Diaxeirish Porwn ths EE.\n``Oi sxeseis anamesa sthn Ellada kai thn Kina ginontai oloena kai pio stenes, kai h megalh afethria qymizw yphrje to 2005 kai idiws h arxikh symbash h opoia ypografhke to 2008'' anefere o Proedros ths Dhmokratias Prokophs Paylopoylos, o opoios ypodexqhke sto Proedriko Megaro ton proedro ths China Cosco Shipping Corporation Limited, Hu Lirong, ``se mia stigmh, opoy oloklhrwnetai mia apo tis megalyteres ependyseis poy exoyn ginei sthn Ellada'' kai h opoia ``exei oxi mono terastio oikonomiko endiaferon alla kai ejairetiko endiaferon to opoio afora genikotera tis sxeseis anamesa sthn Ellada kai thn Kina''. Epishmane de oti ``thn oikonomikh anaptyjh thn ennooyme ws aeiforo anaptyjh, kai anaptyjh poy afora ton Anqrwpo, kai exei sto epikentro ton Anqrwpo''.\n``Eyxomai kai elpizw ayth na einai h afethria kai allwn pollwn ependysewn sthn Ellada, doqentos oti se aytoys toys dyskoloys kairoys gia thn pagkosmia oikonomia, tetoioy eidoys synergasies bohqoyn tis xwres na yperboyn tis megales dysxereies poy dhmioyrgei h krish h opoia exei enskhcei'', tonise o Proedros ths Dhmokratias.\nApo thn pleyra toy, o proedros ths Cosco eipe metajy allwn: ``emeis qa jekinhsoyme tis ependyseis mas gia thn anabaqmish ypodomwn toy limanioy toy Peiraia. Anabaqmish, poy afora oxi mono ton problhta twn konteiner, alla kai ta kroyazieroploia kai th nayphgoepiskeyastikh zwnh. O skopos mas einai na kanoyme to limani toy Peiraia, to megalytero kombiko limani ths Eyrwphs. Pisteyw oti qa prowqhsoyme oxi mono to emporio metajy ths Kinas kai ths Elladas, taytoxrona mesw ths Elladas qa prowqhsoyme to emporio ths Kinas mazi me alles xwres sthn perioxh ayth''.\nO proedros ths Cosco diabebaiwse, epishs ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias oti ``qa kanoyme oti mporoyme, na thrhsoyme toys ellhnikoys nomoys kai na kanoyme tis ependyseis mas swsta. Qa dwsoyme megalh shmasia stis ergasiakes sxeseis ths etaireias kai bebaia qa kanoyme oti mporoyme na toys dwsoyme kalyteres synqhkes ergasias. Taytoxrona qa kanoyme thn etaireia mas, ton mellontiko OLP, mia filoperiballontikh etaireia, h opoia qa entatikopoihsei tis epafes me ta syndikata, qa zhthsei thn katanohsh kai thn yposthrijh toys.''\nSta xeria ths astynomias epesan dyo atoma, poy kathgoroyntai oti symmeteixan sthn omada poy epiteqhke, to prwi ths Paraskeyhs, sta grafeia ths efhmeridas ``Prwto Qema'', sto Maroysi. Apo thn epiqesh proklhqhkan zhmies sto ktirio kai se staqmeymena aytokinhta. Thn eyqynh gia thn epiqesh anelabe h omada ``Roybikwnas'' me anarthsh ths se istoselida toy antiejoysiastikoy xwroy.\nMeta apo anazhthseis astynomikoi ths Omadas DIAS entopisan sth perioxh ths Neas Filadelfeias dyo Ellhnes, hlikias 32 kai 37 etwn, na epibainoyn se motosykleta, toys akinhtopoihsan kai toys proshgagan sthn Ypodieyqynsh Kratikhs Asfaleias ths Dieyqynshs Asfaleias Attikhs.\nSe baros twn dyo syllhfqentwn sxhmatisthke poinikh dikografia gia ta adikhmata twn diakekrimenwn periptwsewn fqoras kai ths paranomhs bias kata synaytoyrgia kai kat' ejakoloyqhsh, ths apeiqeias kai ths ceydoys anwmoti kataqeshs.Oi syllhfqentes prokeitai na odhghqoyn shmera ston eisaggelea Plhmmeleiodikwn Aqhnwn.\nApeilh gia th biwsimothta toy ESY xarakthrise th metanasteysh twn episthmonwn o ypoyrgos Ygeias Andreas Janqos, apeyqynontas xairetismo apo to bhma toy Perifereiakoy Iatrikoy Synedrioy "Exploring ovel Medical Frontiers" poy diejagetai sth Qessalonikh. O k. Janqos proseqese oti gi? ayto ton logo kai qa prepei na anabaqmistei h iatrikh ekpaideysh, idiws sto xwro ths eidikothtas.\n``Prepei na peisoyme toys neoys giatroys oti exoyn mellon sthn Ellada. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth, exei jekinhsei enas diaylos epikoinwnias toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias me tis Iatrikes Sxoles kai tis panepisthmiakes klinikes'', tonise o ypoyrgos Ygeias.\nAnaferomenos sta problhmata toy ESY, ta opoia einai ojymena sthn periodo poy dianyoyme, o k Janqos eqese tis proteraiothtes gia to epomeno diasthma -otan oloklhrwqei kai to programma ajiologhshs -legontas pws ``exei anagkh o kosmos gia ajiopisth dhmosia periqalch, proteraiothta mas omws einai h ependysh se anqrwpino dynamiko, kati poy den egine ta teleytaia xronia. Ayto qa epiteyxqei me thn anabaqmish ths iatrikhs ekpaideyshs, twn ereynhtikwn ergasthriwn kai tis ependyseis se nees texnologies''.\nana2html v2.01 run on Saturday, 9 April 2016 - 12:32:26 UTC


url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-09-29\nAqhna, 29 Septembrioy 2000\nDen einai kaqoloy eyxaristo na jekinw thn enhmerwsh anaferomenos se nekroys. Gnwrizete oti perisyneleghsan akomh epta nekroi. Synolika, o ariqmos twn nekrwn exei anelqei stoys 72. Ta ariqmhtika dedomena poy anaferoyme, apo thn prwth stigmh, einai sxetika giati qa prepei kai h idia h etaireia na aposafhnisei posa htan ta atoma poy synolika epebainan sto ploio. Einai, asfalws, ena ergo oxi eykolo, giati gnwrizete oti polla atoma, logw hlikias h idiothtas, den exoyn ekdwsei eisithrio. Oi ereynes apo dytes synexizontai se oloys toys xwroys toy ploioy.\nPrepei, akomh, na pw oti oi Dikastikes Arxes poy exoyn epilhfqei, exoyn apaggeilei kathgories gia kakoyrghmatikes prajeis. Kratoyntai melh, stelexh toy plhrwmatos, ta opoia oi dikastikes arxes ypoballoyn sthn problepomenh anakritikh diadikasia. Ayto poy exei shmasia, einai afenos men ta swstika synergeia na synexisoyn to ergo toys mexri teloys kai afeteroy, to syntomotero dynato, na apodoqoyn eyqynes se aytoys poy tis exoyn. Etsi wste, afoy oloklhrwqoyn oi dikastikes ereynes, na gnwrizoyme poioi einai aytoi poy eyqynontai kai na analaboyn thn eyqynh ayth, symfwna me osa problepoyn oi nomoi toy kratoys mas.\nH taxeia aponomh dikaiosynhs, gnwrizete oti einai ena qema poy apasxolei edw kai poly kairo th kybernhsh. Exei apotelesei antikeimeno problhmatismoy epaneilhmmenws, toso sto plaisio twn synergasiwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs, oso kai sto plaisio synergasiwn ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo me eyryterh synqesh. Mas apasxoloyn oi allages poy prepei na ginoyn sth mexri shmera akoloyqoymenh dikonomia, prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato, na oloklhrwnontai oi dikastikes ereynes kai na ekdidontai apofaseis. Idiws, malista, se tetoies periptwseis, poy exoyn poly krisimo xarakthra.\nOpws gnwrizete sth xqesinh synedriash toy to Y.S. asxolhqhke me ayth thn tragwdia. Opws htan anamenomeno, ejantlhqhke ekei h syzhthsh, giati eprepe o armodios Ypoyrgos na anaferei to synolo twn stoixeiwn poy synqetoyn thn tragwdia. H epomenh synedriash toy Y.S., thn erxomenh Pempth, qa exei ws antikeimeno ta qemata ths politikhs sto xwro ths Emporikhs Naytilias. Ayto einai to endedeigmeno giati -kata mia tragikh symptwsh -mporei na pei kaneis- oloklhrwnontai oi ekqeseis me ta symperasmata twn epitropwn poy exoyn sygkrothqei, hdh apo to kalokairi, me ayto akribws to antikeimeno. Gia na eimai pio safhs kai katatopistikos qetw ypoch sas anakoinwseis toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias, stis 11 Ioylioy 2000. Opws, loipon, anaferetai stis anakoinwseis aytes, apofasisthke tote h sygkrothsh epitrophs, poy qa ejetasei tis kateyqynthries grammes, to neo plaisio politikhs ston tomea ths Emporikhs Naytilias. Einai sth diaqesh sas ta Deltia Typoy poy anaferontai sth sygkrothsh twn epitropwn kai to antikeimeno toys. Telika oi epitropes poy leitoyrghsan einai dyo: H mia gia to qesmiko plaisio, se o,ti afora thn apeleyqerwsh ths aktoploias kai h allh me antikeimeno thn pontoporo naytilia. Stis epitropes aytes exoyn symbalei -prokeimenoy na odhghqoyn sthn ekdosh enos telikoy porismatos- ekproswpoi olwn twn forewn. Kai twn ergodotwn-efoplistwn kai twn ergazomenwn. Yphrje, epishs, symmetoxh empeirognwmonwn kai eidikwn, anqrwpwn kyroys, poy exoyn gnwsh aytwn twn qematwn, kaqws epishs symmetoxh ekproswpwn toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias kai toy Limenikoy Swmatos.\nAytes tis hmeres -giati h proqesmia poy eixe teqei htan ws to telos Septembrioy- qa perielqoyn sto ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias ta porismata, sta opoia katelhjan aytes oi epitropes, oi opoies leitoyrghsan epi dyo kai pleon mhnes. Basei aytwn twn porismatwn qa eishghqei o armodios ypoyrgos, sthn epomenh synedriash toy Y.S., prokeimenoy na lhfqoyn shmantikes apofaseis.\nGnwrizete -ayto to anaferw parepimptontws- oti dhmosia, kai kat epanalhch, edw kai para poly kairo o Prwqypoyrgos exei milhsei gia thn arsh toy prostateytismoy. Ola ayta ta anaferw giati qelw, ayth thn wra -poy pragmatika oloi eimaste sygklonismenoi- na epishmanw oti exoyn doylecei anqrwpoi, prokeimenoy na entopisoyn ta problhmata poy yparxoyn sto isxyon qesmiko plaisio, oytws wste na laboyme, sth synexeia, tis kalyteres dynates apofaseis.\nQa moy epitrecete, telos, na pw oti peran ths ereynas poy kanei h taktikh Dikaiosynh me th syndromh kai twn armodiwn yphresiwn toy Limenikoy Swmatos, o ypoyrgos Naytilias, apo thn prwth stigmh, exei paraggeilei ereyna pros pasa kateyqynsh. Bebaiws, otan leme pros pasa ``kateyqynsh'', ennooyme ereyna h opoia afora thn tragwdia. Alla ayth h ereyna sxetizetai me oloys ekeinoys toys foreis poy emmesws h amesws emplekontai se ayth th drasthriothta, eite einai h sygkekrimenh etaireia, eite einai oi yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias h toy Limenikoy Swmatos, eite einai alles yphresies, oi opoies exoyn symmetoxh se ayto ton tomea drashs.\nQa hqela, epishs, prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, na sas enhmerwsw oti o Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnhse thlefwnika me ton Proedro ths Kyproy k. Klhridh, Antallajan apoceis gia thn ejelijh twn syzhthsewn sto plaisio toy OHE. Gnwrizete hdh oti h katalhjh toy 4oy gyroy den apefere apotelesmata. Anamenetai neos gyros synomiliwn. Kai, opws panta, oi dyo paragontes qa exoyn synexh epikoinwnia. Exw thn eykairia, na epanalabw -ayto tonise kai o Prwqypoyrgos ston Proedro ths kypriakhs Dhmokratias- oti h Ellada einai mazi me thn Kypro se ayth thn prospaqeia. Me opoies dynameis diaqetoyme se politiko kai diplwmatiko epipedo, symballoyme, wste o dikaios agwnas twn Kypriwn na odhghsei se sygkekrimena qetika apotelesmata. Me mia lysh h opoia qa einai symfwnh me to plaisio poy exei apofasisei, edw kai poly kairo, o OHE. Mia lysh biwsimh, h opoia qa antapokrinetai stis prospaqeies poy exoyme kanei, mexri twra, h kypriakh kybernhsh, oi ellhnikes kybernhseis, olos o Ellhnismos. Kai bebaia, me tis apofaseis poy exei yioqethsei kai basei twn opoiwn energei h prepei na energei o dieqnhs paragontas.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh apo epitropes exoyme xortasei, giati idies epitropes ftiajate kai otan eginan oi seismoi kai akomh den exoyn breqei oyte oi fakeloi, oyte exoyn apodoqei eyqynes poyqena, mporeite na moy peite ean kapoios aisqanetai apo thn kybernhsh, an diaqetei h exei kapoia eyaisqhsia kai prepei na paraithqei;\nREPPAS: Mplekete dyo diaforetika qemata. To ena qema afora thn apodosh eyqynwn. Oi eyqynes apodidontai me syntetagmeno tropo. H Politeia mas einai dhmokratikh, exei qesmoys, arxes kai organa. Den eimaste aytarxiko kratos. Den eimaste mia Politeia opoy hgemonas h ekproswpoi toy ekdidoyn apofaseis kai epiballoyn poines kata to dokoyn. Qa prepei na sebastoyme ayth th diadikasia. Ekfrazontas th lyph mas gi aytoys poy exasan th zwh toys, gia toys oikeioys toys poy dokimazontai, prepei na poyme oti kai aytoi poy mporei na apodeixqei oti exoyn barytath eyqynh, dikaioyntai ths prostasias poy problepetai sto dikonomiko systhma ths xwras. Oson afora, twra, to allo qema poy qesate qa moy epitrecete na pw oti ayth einai mia poly eykolh proseggish. H kybernhsh, asfalws, den niwqei kala den einai ikanopoihmenh. Kaneis den einai ikanopoihmenos otan yparxei estw ki enas nekros. Alla, einai megalh h apostash anamesa se ayth thn pragmatikothta kai sthn apaithsh anqrwpoqysiwn, me tropo o opoios -qa moy epitrecete na pw- den exei kamia sxesh kai me ayto to idio to koinoboyleytiko dhmokratiko systhma. Yparxei eyaisqhsia. Ayth h eyaisqhsia apodeiknyetai me ton kalytero tropo, otan ta kybernhtika stelexh prosferoyn sto bwmo toy kaqhkontos, prokeimenoy me swstes apofaseis, me analhch prwtoboyliwn, na diorqwsoyme ta kakws keimena. Exoyme kanei , ws xwra, terastia proodo se para polloys tomeis kai ayto, asfalws, anagnwrizetai apo oloys. Qa prepei na synexisoyme thn prospaqeia mas, giati polla einai ta kena kai oi elleiceis, polla prepei na kanoyme akomh. Etsi niwqoyme emeis to xreos mas. Kai sas parakalw, epeidh einai poly krisimh h peristash kai to qema poy mas apasxolei, etsi na to proseggizoyme oloi. Perasame persi mia dokimasia me toys seismoys. Oi seismoi, bebaiws, den prokaloyntai apo anqrwpino paragonta, apo ameleia, apo laqos. Edw, exoyme na antimetwpisoyme ena allhs tajhs problhma poy egine mesa se ligh wra kai oloklhrwqhke me tis tragikes synepeies toy, ekeinh thn wra. Qelw na pw oti kaqe fora qa prepei na ejetazoyme ta dedomena me tropo sygkekrimeno. Den einai oles oi katastaseis poy antimetwpizoyme idies. Alla blepw dystyxws, oti se oles tis katastaseis, poy, opws eipa, den einai idies, katalhgoyme, gia logoys poy mporw na ypoqesw, se mia eykolh kathgoria. Nomizw oti aytos den einai enas orqologikos kai dikaios tropos gia na proseggizoyme ta qemata kai na lynoyme ta problhmata. Emeis epixeiroyme, prospaqoyme na lysoyme ta problhmata. Se polloys tomeis exoyme kanei megalh proodo. Alloy einai mikroterh kai alloy den exei syntelestei h proodos poy qa qelame. Gia ola ayta, omws, mas krinei o ellhnikos laos kai pairnei tis apofaseis toy.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Eiste eyxaristhmenoi, dhladh, apo thn olh kinhtopoihsh toy kratikoy kai kybernhtikoy mhxanismoy meta apo oktw wres;\nREPPAS: Eimaste to idio lyphmenoi, oso ki eseis, gia ta qymata ayths ths tragwdias.\nPAPPA: Yparxei mia epitroph Diaxeirishs Krisewn. Einai qesmiko organo. Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh giati den synedriase;\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayto to peristatiko -to eipa prin, to ypainixqhka, nomizw oti sas apanthsa- arxise kai teleiwse mesa se ligh wra. Ayth h diypoyrgikh epitroph qa eixe nohma na synedriasei gia na antimetwpisei problhmata, ta opoia zhtoyn lysh. Ayto poy prepei na kanoyme twra einai oi, kata periptwsh, armodioi na kanoyn to ergo toys: Gia to qema ths dikastikhs ereynas oi dikastikoi, kyriws. Dhladh, ta organa ths taktikhs dikaiosynhs, alla kai ta organa toy Limenikoy. Gia to ergo ths diaswshs, oi dytes kai oi alloi eidikoi. Den exei kanena nohma na synedriasoyme gia na poyme oti prepei kapoioi na kanoyn to aytonohto. Oi apofaseis poy exei parei h kybernhsh, me ton armodio ypoyrgo kai opoioys alloys exoyn synarmodiothta, aforoyn th bohqeia poy prepei na prosferoyme se ekeinoys poy eplhghsan me ton enan h allo tropo. Ayto den einai qema syzhthshs se mia diypoyrgikh epitroph.\nMIXAHL: Toso o Prwqypoyrgos, xqes -opws mas anakoinwse edw o k. Xythrhs- oso kai o k. Papoytshs kai o Arxhgos toy Limenikoy Swmatos, apo thn prwth stigmh poy pleon diapistwqhke to eyros ths tragwdias, milhsan gia ereynes se baqos kai apleto fws. Qelw na rwthsw me poia exeggya mporoyn na ginoyn aytes oi ereynes; Kai sas fernw ws paradeigma oti ena xrono meta to tragiko symban toy FALCON akomh anazhtoyme toys ypeyqynoys.\nREPPAS: H apanthsh moy einai poly logikh. Gnwrizete oti to porisma apo thn armodia roymanikh yphresia -poy eixe armodiothta na kanei olo ayton ton elegxo gia na ekdwsei porisma- hrqe prosfata se dikh mas gnwsh, polloys mhnes, sxedon ena xrono, meta. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti oi yphresies ths xwras mas poy exoyn analogh armodiothta epilambanontai kai qeloyn na diatypwsoyn to diko toys porisma. H kaqysterhsh ayth, poy parathreitai meta apo tetoia fainomena h katastaseis, dhmioyrgei pragmatika mia pikria, se oloys ekeinoys poy qewroyn oti exei egkaqidryqei ena kaqestws atimwrhsias. Den einai etsi. Giati antilambaneste, pws enw prepei na kanoyme oles ekeines tis dikonomikoy xarakthra allages, prokeimenoy na syntomeytei o xronos aponomhs dikaiosynhs -kai mas apasxolei ayto to qema, to exete akoysei, to gnwrizete, poly prin prokycei to sygkekrimeno qlibero symban- apo thn allh, anagnwrizete, paradexeste oti den exoyme diorisei entetalmena kybernhtika organa, ta opoia qa asxolhqoyn me to antikeimeno kai qa ekdwsoyn tis apofaseis toys symfwna me tis dikes mas epiloges, symfwna me krithria ta opoia mporei na exoyn kai politika xarakthristika. Kaqe allo. Ta organa, ta opoia h Politeia mas problepei na leitoyrgoyn kai na epilambanontai tetoiwn qematwn, einai ayta poy qa prepei na kanoyn to ergo toys aperispasta, me idiaiterh eyaisqhsia enocei enos tetoioy megaloy problhmatos, poy exei kolossiaies diastaseis, logw twn pollwn qymatwn kai epishs gia tis entypwseis poy dhmioyrgoyntai, gia thn cyxologia twn politwn. Kai pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na yperballoyn ton eayto toys, wste to syntomotero dynato na feroyn se peras to ergo poy toys exei anateqei.\nMIXAHL: Kat arxhn, qewreite oti politikes eyqynes exei h kybernhsh gia thn politikh poy askhse, prin ton Aprilio kai sth synexeia, sto xwro ths Naytilias;\nREPPAS: H kybernhsh mas stis ekloges chfisthke me ena programma. Sas parapempw sto tmhma toy programmatos poy anaferetai sta qemata Emporikhs Naytilias. Se synepeia kai synexeia aytwn twn proeklogikwn ejaggeliwn h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias anelabe prwtoboylies. Metajy twn allwn, sygkrothqhkan oi epitropes poy asxoloyntai me sygkekrimena qemata, prokeimenoy -afoy ginei h proergasia kai ``wrimasei'' to qema- sth synexeia na syzhthsei to Y.S. kai na labei apofaseis. Eimaste mprosta se mia tragikh symptwsh, epanalambanw. H proqesmia, poy eixe teqei apo thn arxh, htan to telos Septembrioy. Oi ekqeseis twn epitropwn katatiqentai aytes tis hmeres. To qema ayto eprokeito na syzhthqei, sas diabebaiwnw, meta apo 15-20 hmeres. Qa syzhthqei sthn epomenh synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.\nMIXAHL: H politikh poy askhsate sto xwro ths naytilias, mexri tis ekloges toy Aprilioy, htan h swsth;\nREPPAS: Mesolabhsan oi ekloges toy Aprilioy kai kriqhkame gia thn politikh mas.\nMIXAHL: Para to gegonos oti o laos sas janachfise, den ferete eyqynh gia otidhpote askhsate sto parelqon;\nREPPAS: Me ayth thn ennoia, epeidh kai eseis eiste ergazomenos kapoy, h dikh sas asynepeia, an yparxei, to diko sas laqos an prokycei, synepiferei aytomatws eyqynh sthn koryfh ths epixeirhshs sthn opoia ergazeste; Einai mia poly eykolh proseggish, qa moy epitrecete na pw, h opoia den einai antistoixh me th shmasia toy qematos poy mas apasxolei. Qewreite, loipon, oti, xwris na gnwrizoyme pws akribws eginan ta pragmata kai poioi eyqynontai, an kapoios ergazomenos sto Dhmosio ypopesei se ena paraptwma, aytomata yparxei problhma eyqynhs toy politikoy proistamenoy. Poly perissotero, an o ergazomenos aytos einai apasxoloymenos sto idiwtiko tomea kai den eimaste bebaioi oti yparxei eyqynh, gia th dhmioyrgia aytoy toy tragikoy symbantos, h opoia na anagetai se paralhceis h ameleies politikwn paragontwn, h politikh eyqynh pws einai dynato na katalogistei me ayto ton eykolo tropo;\nMIXAHL: Dhladh, oles oi ejagores kai oi sygxwneyseis sto xwro ths aktoploias poy eginan olo to prohgoymeno diasthma, htan acoges; Kai oxi acoges mono apo texnonomikhs pleyras, ennow politika. Giati, gia paradeigma, epitrecate na ginoyn oligopwlia; Einai h den einai ayto eyqynh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs; Kai malista, me ena forea, o opoios stis epitropes poy epikalesthkate gia na etoimasoyn thn proergasia gia tis apofaseis poy qa parete, ejefrase tis antirrhseis toy gia tis proqeseis tis opoies eseis ejaggeilate kai qelete na labete ws apofaseis.\nREPPAS: Ayto enisxyei tis dikes mas apoceis. Gnwrizete oti sthn eleyqerh agora yparxoyn kanones. Den einai asydoth h agora. Opoiosdhpote epixeirhmatias-antagwnisths h allos, qewrei oti blaptontai ta symferonta toy exei endika mesa sth diaqesh toy, ta opoia mporei na xrhsimopoihsei. Twra, me aformh ena tragiko gegonos, to na syzhtoyme, prospaqwntas na anazhthsoyme ti einai ayto poy egine sthn ellhnikh aktoploia synolika, pisteyw oti den einai tipota allo, para mia apofygh na doyme sth mikroklimaka, giati peri aytoy prokeitai, to qema. Apo ekei kai pera, to eyrytero qema qa apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Eseis o idios eipate oti ayta ta opoia exei ejaggeilei to YEN, exoyn dhmioyrghsei enoxlhsh se epixeirhmaties, oi opoioi@\nMIXAHL: Toys epitrecate na ginoyn megaloi kai tranoi@\nREPPAS: @den qa hqelan oi Epitropes aytes na katalhjoyn se porismata ta opoia, isws, einai antiqeta pros ta stenws ennooymena symferonta toys. Ayto deixnei me ton kalytero tropo oti h Politeia antimetwpizei ayta ta qemata me endiaferon kai pairnei apofaseis me gnwmona to dhmosio symferon, thn asfaleia twn politwn kai oxi ta symferonta idiwtwn epixeirhmatiwn.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish: An katalaba kala, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio poy qa ginei thn erxomenh ebdomada, qa anakoinwsete thn arsh toy prostateytismoy; H kybernhsh meleta ayto to endexomeno sobara;\nREPPAS: Sas exw pei oti o Prwqypoyrgos, me dhmosia dhlwsh toy, exei milhsei gia to qema ayto. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti, symfwna me thn koinotikh nomoqesia, h Ellada exei th dynatothta na diathrhsei ayto to kaqestws, mexri to telos toy 2003. O Prwqypoyrgos, otan ekane dhmosies dhlwseis gia to qema ayto, den anaferotan bebaiws sto 2003. Den qa prokatalabw apofaseis toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Ayto to opoio, omws, mporw na pw einai oti h qesh ayth paramenei ws exei kai qa tyxei efarmoghs, asfalws, poly prin ejantlhsoyme ta xronika oria poy mas epitrepetai na diathrhsoyme to kaqestws toy prostateytismoy.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ti exei ginei me to qema twn elikopterwn. Yparxei mia -kata th gnwmh moy- dienejh, metajy toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias kai toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas. Mporeite na mas peite ti exei ginei me to qema ayto kai giati den petajan ta elikoptera;\nREPPAS: Prwta apo ola, otan tiqetai to erwthma gia ta elikoptera, me yioqethsh ths qeshs oti den xrhsimopoihqhkan -den petajan, opws eipate, ta elikoptera -dinetai h entypwsh oti den eixame sth diaqesh mas, gia skopoys ereynas kai diaswshs, enaeria mesa. Eixame enaeria mesa sth diaqesh mas. Xrhsimopoihqhkan enaeria mesa. Ara, einai ceydhs h entypwsh poy dhmioyrgeitai oti, epeidh den xrhsimopoihqhkan ta elikoptera sygkekrimenoy typoy gia logoys toys opoioys qa anaferw eyqys amesws, den xrhsimopoihqhkan genikws elikoptera. Xrhsimopoihqhkan, loipon, enaeria mesa. Kai C-130 xrhsimopoihqhkan kai elikoptera typoy AB-205 xrhsimopoihqhkan kai bebaiws elikoptera typoy Chinook, ta opoia diaqetei o stratos jhras xrhsimopoihqhkan. Epishs, xrhsimopoihqhkan enaeria mesa, ta Super Puma, me Gallo piloto, gia ta opoia egine megalh syzhthsh. Den xrhsimopoihqhkan gia ereyna kai diaswsh, th nyxta, epeidh akribws den exei oloklhrwqei to ekpaideytiko programma toy plhrwmatos poy qa xeiristei ayta ta mesa.\nPAPPA: Poso kairo pairnei ayto;\nREPPAS: Qetete, loipon, ena allo qema twra. Alla, ayto den exei kamia sxesh me ayto poy onomazete eseis ``dienejh metajy dyo ypoyrgeiwn''. Eixe ekdwsei anakoinwsh apo thn prwth stigmh to YPEQA kai anaferetai se ayto. Sthn anakoinwsh toy milaei gia ola ta mesa poy diateqhkan, milaei kai gia ta enaeria mesa kai anaferetai kai sta Super Puma, analyontas toys logoys gia toys opoioys den htan dynato na epixeirhsoyn nyxterines wres. Giati, thn hmera xrhsimopoihqhkan.\nPAPPA: Th nyxta xreiazontan.\nREPPAS: Th nyxta xrhsimopoihqhkan alla enaeria mesa.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Dyo C-130 phgan.\nREPPAS: Sas parapempw sthn anakoinwsh poy exei ekdwsei to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. An den eixame promhqeytei ayto ton typo twn elikopterwn, den qa ginotan opoiadhpote syzhthsh twra. Ta exoyme promhqeytei gia na mporoyn na epixeirhsoyn kai nyxta, na kanoyn ereyna kai diaswsh. Prepei na oloklhrwqei ena programma ekpaideyshs toy proswpikoy. Den exei oloklhrwqei.\nPAPPA: Poso diarkei ayto;\nREPPAS: Arketoys mhnes.\nPAPPA: Giati, mas eipe xqes o k. Xythrhs, gia paradeigma, oti apo perysi to Dekembrio@\nREPPAS: Sas eipa arketoys mhnes. An qetete ena qema leitoyrgias yphresiwn, na to kanete, alla mhn to qetete ypo ayto to prisma.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh tiqetai qema gia to an leitoyrghse h kratikh mhxanh, gi` ayto ginetai olh ayth h koybenta. H aporia poy yparxei einai, pws phrame emeis ola ayta ta elikoptera, prin exoyme toys katallhloys pilotoys. Giati eipate oti an den eixame promhqeytei aytoy toy typoy ta elikoptera, den qa ginotan opoiadhpote syzhthsh.\nREPPAS: Ma, pws na exeis toys pilotoys gia kapoia elikoptera, xwris na exeis ta elikoptera ayta gia na ekpaideyseis toys pilotoys;\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Apo tis gnwseis poy exw egw, prwta ekpaideyontai oi pilotoi kai meta erxontai ta elikoptera.\nREPPAS: Ayta ginontai parallhla. Exei ejoplistei h xwra mas me thn promhqeia aytwn twn elikopterwn kai bebaiws, ayta syntoma qa mporei na xrhsimopoioyntai kai katw apo tetoies dyskoles synqhkes gia ereyna kai diaswsh. Eyxomaste na mh xreiastei.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Kai gia th dienejh poy eipate@\nREPPAS: Eseis to eipate, den to eipa egw.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Pantws, to qema einai, k. Ypoyrge -kai bghke kai ston Typo- oti ta elikoptera ayta ta krathse o ypoyrgos gia na paei o idios kai kapoioi ajiwmatikoi sthn Paro.\nREPPAS: Se ayto to epipedo, den mporw na syzhthsw. Se mia allh syzhthsh, qa mporoysa na to sxoliasw. Twra, den qa to sxoliasw.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Oloi ta egracan, ta diabasame.\nREPPAS: Einai apisteyta ola ayta.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Oloi ta diabasame.\nREPPAS: Kai ti shmainei ayto;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Den jerete ti egine; To prwto poy petaje, phge me ton ypoyrgo ekei.\nREPPAS: O ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias kai o arxhgos toy Limenikoy htan sto qalamo twn epixeirhsewn olo to brady. Poy eprepe na einai; Ekei eprepe na einai, gia na syntonisoyn tis prospaqeies. Ekei htan h qesh toys. Den eixan logo na xrhsimopoihsoyn kanena meso. Kai an hqelan na metakinhqoyn, den eixan anagkh to Super Puma, to opoio dhqen den mporoyse na xrhsimopoihqei.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den to xrhsimopoihsan;\nREPPAS: Giati, pia, phgan hmera. Ta eipame ayta, den me parakoloyqeite. Mh nomizete oti prospaqoyme na aposeisoyme eyqynes. Emeis qeloyme na ginoyn oi ereynes kai na apodoqoyn oi eyqynes. Antilambanomaste pws gia logoys politikoys kai epikoinwniakoys -ayth einai h alhqeia- dhmioyrgeitai ena problhma epiprosqetws. Ayto, omws, den einai arketo gia na mas odhghsei sto symperasma oti prepei na proboyme se energeies, oi opoies -qa moy epitrecete na pw- den einai antistoixes apo apoch ypeyqynothtas, me thn ypeyqynothta poy prepei na deijoyme, enocei enos poly krisimoy qematos.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Pantws, oles aytes tis plhrofories den tis ebgalan oi dhmosiografoi. To ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas eixe pei oti ta elikoptera htan etoima apo poly nwris kai den petoysan giati perimenan ton ypoyrgo. Mhn ta rixnete stoys dhmosiografoys. Ta anypostata kai ta aneyqyna, den grafthkan apo toys dhmosiografoys.\nREPPAS: Den eperrica eyqynes stoys dhmosiografoys, alla oydepote to YPEQA eipe ayto poy isxyrizeste. Eipa oti yparxei sygkekrimenh anakoinwsh toy YPEQA. Yparxei; Anaferetai se ayto to qema; Anaferetai. Ayth h anakoinwsh dhmosieyqhke kapoy oloklhrh, ws exei; Mporeite na moy peite se poio Meso dhmosieyqhke h anakoinwsh ayth; Den dhmosieyqhke. Polles arades dhmosieyqhkan me sxolia dhmosiografwn, swsta. H anakoinwsh ayth, h opoia periexei stoixeia, dhmosieyqhke kapoy; Mporeite na moy peite;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Dhmosieyqhkan sto ``BHMA'' oi dhlwseis twn pilotwn poy perimenan.\nREPPAS: Gi` ayto sas lew. Mia epishmh anakoinwsh apo mia yphresia kratikh, poy anaferetai se ena qema kai paraqetei ta stoixeia, den dhmosieyqhke. Yparxoyn martyries. Bebaiws, yparxoyn martyries.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Gia mena, pio sobarh einai twn pilotwn.\nREPPAS: Ayth einai h apoch sas.\nMPOTWNHS: O k. Lianhs eipe, xqes, oti an den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes, prepei na anazhthqoyn. Kai o k. Papantwnioy, sth diarkeia toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, eipe oti oi eyqynes qa apodoqoyn opoy aytes yparxoyn kai prepei. Den apekleise tis politikes eyqynes. Ejefrase tetoia apoch mesa sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;\nREPPAS: Den hmoyn parwn, xqes, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, gi` ayto den hmastan kai xqes mazi edw, epeidh syzhtoysame to nomosxedio gia to ESR poy exw kataqesei. Diatypwnontai polles apoceis. Bebaiws, opoios apodeixqei oti exei eyqynh, qa prepei na toy apodoqei.\nKARELIAS: Peran ths piqanhs arshs toy prostateytismoy, apasxolei thn kybernhsh to endexomeno na meiwsei to orio ths hlikias twn ploiwn apo ta 35 xronia poy einai shmera;\nREPPAS: Prepei na eimai safhs. Prwton, anaferqhka, milwntas gia thn arsh toy prostateytismoy, se dhmosies dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai eipa oti oi dhlwseis aytes desmeyoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh. Den eipa oti aytes oi apofaseis qa lhfqoyn meqayrio. Mhn yparjei ayth h paranohsh. Den to apokleiw. Den einai kati, omws, to opoio mporoyme na prokatalaboyme. Ayto prepei na einai safes.\nDeyteron, ola ta qemata poy aforoyn thn aktoploia qa antimetwpistoyn kai qa lhfqoyn apofaseis epi twn qematwn ekeinwn poy krinoyme oti eimaste etoimoi na paroyme orqes apofaseis. Kai epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos to opoio qa syzhthqei. Den mporw, ayth thn wra, na prokatalabw tis apofaseis toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Sas lew, omws, oti to qema poy qetete, mas apasxolei.\nI. KAMPOYRAKHS: Eipate oti parallhla me thn taktikh ereyna twn dikastikwn arxwn, o idios o k. Papoytshs, apo thn prwth stigmh, exei diatajei kai ereyna poy qa ginei parallhla, opws eipate sthn arxh. Apo poioys qa dienerghqei ayth h ereyna;\nREPPAS: Kai apo dikastikoys.\nI. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kai apo poioys alloys;\nREPPAS: Opws plhroforoymai, o eisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy k. Dhmopoylos qa episkefqei ton Prwqypoyrgo. Isws ayth thn wra na synergazontai, me antikeimeno akribws pws, sto plaisio toy yfistamenoy systhmatos, qa oloklhrwqei to syntomotero dynato ayth h ereyna gia to qlibero peristatiko kai alla synafh qemata.\nKOYRTAKHS: Polla legontai kai grafontai gia ton prwhn YEN k. Soymakh. Skefqhkate sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio an qa yparjei kapoia synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Soymakh;\nREPPAS: Gia ta qemata ayta den askei armodiothtes o k. Soymakhs. Gia ola ta alla qemata, apanthsa prin se sxetikh erwthsh toy k. Mixahl. Nomizw oti o k. Soymakhs, opws edeije kai o peiraikos laos, poy ton anedeije kai pali boyleyth, htan petyxhmenos ypoyrgos.\nANTYPAS: Eipate prohgoymenws, oti yparxei eyaisqhsia kai apodeiknyetai apo ta kybernhtika stelexh otan ayta prospaqoyn na diorqwsoyn ta kakws keimena. Apanthsate kai gia ton k. Soymakh an yparxoyn prohgoymenes politikes eyqynes. Yparxei, omws, profanws kati allo to opoio dhmioyrgei problhmata. Qa elegxqoyn, loipon, dhmosioi ypallhloi h opoioidhpote alloi gia oligwria h diafqora;\nREPPAS: Xwris prokatalhch, xwris prokataskeyes, xwris emeis, ek twn proterwn, na prosdiorisoyme poioi einai aytoi poy einai ypeyqynoi. Ayto, se ena dhmokratiko politeyma, einai anepitrepto. Giati, bebaiws, mporei na ikanopoiei kapoioys h eykolh kataggelia kai h apodosh eyqynhs, den exei omws kamia sxesh ayth h aytarxikh symperifora me toys kanones oi opoioi prepei na epikratoyn sto dikonomiko systhma, to opoio isxyei sth xwra mas kai se oles, bebaiws, tis dhmokratikes xwres.\nANTYPAS: Yparxei kapoio ``aorato xeri'' poy ftaiei gia ola ayta;.\nREPPAS: ``Aorato xeri'' den prokeitai na katadikastei, giati den einai kati to opoio mporei na syllhfqei, oyte einai kati enantion toy opoioy mporei na apaggelqei kathgoria. Den ejaireitai kaneis. Oloi oi alloi leitoyrgoi oi opoioi emplekontai, to eipa sthn arxh, asfalws qa elegxqoyn, sto plaisio mias ereynas poy qeloyme na paei se baqos, na einai oysiastikh kai na dwsei apotelesmata.\nANTYPAS: Mporeite na mas anaferete ena prohgoymeno paradeigma, poioi dhmosioi leitoyrgoi timwrhqhkan;\nREPPAS: Den qa analabw na ekproswphsw allon, peran ths kybernhshs. An kaleitai h kybernhsh na katalysei thn aytonomia ths dikaiosynhs, qa moy epitrecete na diafwnhsw kai na pw, oti oyte eseis, oyte allos poliths qa prepei na ekfrazei tetoies idees.\nANTYPAS: Den exei sxesh me dikaiosynh, einai eswterikh diadikasia.\nREPPAS: Den einai etsi. Exoyn epilhfqei ta organa ths dikaiosynhs. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti se polles periptwseis -einai mia alhqeia ayth- yparxei kaqysterhsh sthn ekdosh apofashs. Eipa, kat` epanalhch, oti einai ena qema poy mas apasxolei. Eseis exete akoysei, polles fores, thn kybernhsh kai ton Prwqypoyrgo ton idio na milane gia to qema ayto.\nANTYPAS: Den yparxoyn peiqarxika symboylia se oles tis yphresies;\nREPPAS: Peiqarxika symboylia yparxoyn se oles tis yphresies, ta opoia exoyn tetoies armodiothtes.\nANTYPAS: Oi apofaseis, yparxoyn;\nREPPAS: Bebaiws. Gnwrizete poly kala oti gia polloys logoys oi apofaseis poy ekdidoyn ta peiqarxika symboylia den einai pantote aytes, tis opoies qa anamenate eseis h kapoios allos. Den mporeis, omws, na epiballeis oyte sto peiqarxiko symboylio thn apofash poy qa ekdwsei, dioti payei na einai symboylio.\nANTYPAS: Epitrecte moy, omws, na kanw ena sxolio, oti ``kai oi elegxontes prepei na elegxontai''.\nREPPAS: Symfwnoyme apolyta. Emeis elegxomaste sth Boylh, kata th diadikasia toy koinoboyleytikoy elegxoy. Oi ergazomenoi, bebaiws exoyn ta peiqarxika symboylia stis yphresies toys poy toys elegxoyn. Ta apotelesmata ta gnwrizete. An logoi synadelfikhs allhleggyhs h alloi logoi odhgoyn polles fores sthn ekdosh apallaktikwn apofasewn, enw den qa eprepe, einai qema ayto ths kybernhshs;\nANTYPAS: Qa prepei na apodeijoyn thn antikeimenikothta.\nREPPAS: Qa prepei, loipon, ta peiqarxika symboylia na ta elegxei h kybernhsh kai na epiballei tis apofaseis poy ekeinh qelei gia kaqe peristatiko sta peiqarxika symboylia; Den mporei na ginei ayto kai den qeloyme na ginei. Einai safes ayto.\nANTYPAS: Qa prepei na apodeijoyn thn antikeimenikothta toys.\nREPPAS: Symfwnoyme apolytws na einai antikeimenika.\nPITTARAS: Apo th stigmh poy to ellhniko plhrwma den htan se qesh na epixeirhsei, qelw na moy peite an h ellhnikh kybernhsh zhthse th syndromh twn Gallwn ekpaideytwn.\nREPPAS: Sas eipa oti ston topo ths tragwdias yphrxan enaeria mesa. To SUPER PUMA petaje me Gallo piloto, alla den eixe ajiologhqei, wste na exoyn ejasfalistei ola ta stoixeia kai na einai se epixeirhsiakh etoimothta. An xrhsimopoieito gia enan tetoio skopo kai o mh genoito eixame mia tragikh ejelijh, tote qa miloysame -kai eseis isws qa askoysate kritikh- gia alloy eidoys eyqynes. Giati xrhsimopoihqhkan, enw den eixe kriqei epixeirhsiaka etoimo; Ola ayta exoyn analyqei, den yparxei logos na ta syzhtoyme allo. Exoyme na antimetwpisoyme mia tragikh pragmatikothta kai ayto einai poy proexei.\nMOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prohgoymenws oti h apaithsh anqrwpoqysiwn den exei sxesh me to koinoboyleytiko mas systhma. Se orismena krath, otan symbainoyn tetoia gegonota, oi ypoyrgoi ``kanoyn xarakiri'' h orismenoi poy exoyn oi idioi thn eyqynh paraitoyntai, dedomenoy malista, opws eipate prohgoymenws oti o elegxos qa einai pros pasa kateyqynsh kai o elegxos endexomenws na apodeijei plhmmeleis prajeis h egklhmatikes energeies yphresiwn toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias. To erwthma moy einai giati anagoreyetai sygkekrimeno proswpo se ``Ifigeneia''; Ayto den to katalabainw.\nREPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den yparxei kanenas logos na protrexoyme. An apodeixqei oti yparxoyn aytes oi eyqynes logw ameleias yphresiwn h allwn paraleicewn, oi eyqynes aytes qa apodoqoyn. Alla ayto den mporoyme na to kanoyme twra, prin oloklhrwqei h ereyna. Deyteron, qa prepei na ejetazoyme kaqe peristatiko -kai den einai ola omoia- gia na ajiologoyme apo ekei kai pera to baqmo emplokhs poy exei o paragontas, o opoios krinetai sthn politikh konistra, me to ekastote peristatiko. Einai dynato, se ena dhmosio meso metaforas, se ena lewforeio, fer eipein, o odhgos na kanei kati to opoio qa dhmioyrghsei polynekro atyxhma kai aytomatws o Ypoyrgos Metaforwn poy epopteyei ayton ton tomea, na krinetai ws politika ypeyqynos; Ola ta qemata, pisteyw oti qa prepei na ta krinoyme stis swstes diastaseis toys. Oxi genikws kai aoristws, epeidh synebh h tragwdia, epeidh exoyme nekroys, aytomatws qeloyme kai ayth th synepeia. Den syndeontai aytomatws, den einai apolytws taytoshma ola ayta. Sas eipa oti h ereyna brisketai se ejelijh kai den prepei na protrejoyme. Na doyme, omws, to sygkekrimeno peristatiko: O Xrhstos o Papoytshs, o Ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias, se anypopto xrono, eyqys ws anelabe kaqhkonta, eixe ejaggeilei prwtoboylia prokeimenoy na ejetasqoyn ola ta qemata poy aforoyn thn eswterikh kai thn pontoporo naytilia, wste na paroyme apofaseis. Kai pairnoyme apofaseis eji mhnes meta tis ekloges. Den edeije, loipon, mia taxythta kai mia synepeia na qesei se efarmogh politikes poy ejaggeilame proeklogika; Den anelabe prwtoboylia; Anelabe prwtoboylia kai qa eishghqei sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, sthn epomenh synedriash toy.\nALEIFEROPOYLOS: Apodwsate th gigantwsh twn etaireiwn poy drasthriopoioyntai sto xwro ths aktoploias, stoys nomoys ths eleyqerhs agoras. Wstoso, den gnwrizw kanena nomo ths eleyqerhs agoras h toy eleyqeroy antagwnismoy na leei oti mia kybernhsh@\nREPPAS: Eipa oti h eleyqerh agora leitoyrgei me kanones, den einai asydoth.\nALEIFEROPOYLOS: Entajei, stoys kanones ths eleyqerhs agoras. Wstoso, kanenas kanonas den leei oti mia kybernhsh einai ypoxrewmenh na apotaqei sthn Commission kai na zhthsei thn hlikiakh paratash gia ta ploia toy monopwlioy. Ayto den synista mia eyqynh politikh;\nREPPAS: Den zhtaei h kybernhsh mas kati tetoio, gia ton aploystato logo oti sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh den problepetai kapoio orio hlikias gia th dromologhsh ploiwn. Mono emeis exoyme balei kapoio orio. Problepetai o elegxos twn ploiwn apo thn apoch ths katallhlothtas poy exoyn h den exoyn, prokeimenoy na dromologoyntai. Den tiqetai qema hlikias twn ploiwn.\nALEJAKH: Mas eipate oti den mporoyme na apodidoyme eykoles kathgories, toylaxiston otan den gnwrizoyme pws eginan ayta ta pragmata kai poios akribws eyqynetai. Epeidh, omws, apo thn arxh ayths ths istorias yparxei mia tash na kateyqynqoyn oi ereynes pros to anqrwpino laqos, pros thn anqrwpinh ekdoxh, sto plhrwma -kai exoyme kai dikes sas dhlwseis, alla kai allwn oi dhlwseis pros ta ekei kateyqynontai- anarwtiemai an h kybernhsh ejetazei to endexomeno na to exei boyliajei to ploio h etaireia. Yparxei tetoio endexomeno poy na ejetazei h kybernhsh;\nREPPAS: Epanalambanw oti kai aytos o opoios elegxetai, epeidh mporei na exei eyqynes, ajizei thn prostasia ths Dikaiosynhs. Den qa prepei, epeidh dhmioyrgeitai ayth h entypwsh, na ton katadikasoyme me apofash poy qa paroyme xwris na exei oloklhrwqei mia diadikasia, h opoia qa odhghsei se ena ajiopisto porisma. Ayto einai to prwto. Deyteron, oydeis mporei na to pei ayto kai malista se mia dhmosia syzhthsh, an den prokyptei apo kapoia stoixeia. Alla pisteyw oti kai ayth h parametros apotelei antikeimeno ths ereynas. Nomizw oti einai kati to opoio qa ejetasoyn oi armodies yphresies. Qelete thn apolytws proswpikh moy apoch; Moy einai adianohto na skefqw oti kapoios anqrwpos mporei na kanei hqelhmena mia tetoia egklhmatikh prajh. Moy einai adianohto. Den mporw na skefqw kati tetoio ejomologoymai. Mexri twra, h syzhthsh kai h kritikh exei anaptyxqei ston tomea ths antidrash twn yphresiwn, oson afora thn ereyna kai th diaswsh. Oson afora thn proklhsh ths tragwdias den exei diatypwqei kapoia ajiopisth kathgoria, kapoia dhmosia martyria gia to oti to ploio den htan ajioploo, kai ara eixe problhma apo prin kai ayto to proyparxon problhma odhghse sth tragwdia. Asfalws, kai ayto qa apotelesei antikeimeno ereynas. Qelw na pw, loipon, oti h syzhthsh epikentrwnetai sto ti egine meta, an egine egkairws kai an egine me orqo tropo to ergo ths diaswshs kai ths ereynas. Apo kei kai pera bebaiws, epanalambanw, ola ayta ta stoixeia -ta prin, ta kata kai ta meta to tragiko symban- prepei na ta doyme.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti den bghke kanenas na pei oti to ploio den htan ajioploo. Den bghkan oi syndikalistes, den bghkan anqrwpoi poy ergazontai mesa kai eipan oti einai sapiokarabo;\nREPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto apo thn prwth hmera kai pairnw thn eyqynh ths apanthshs.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: @kai apodeixqhke oti htan sapiokarabo.\nREPPAS: Eidate, loipon, poso eykola bgazete porismata, eseis; An me thn eykolia poy milate kai katadikazete grafete sthn efhmerida sas, k. Stamatopoyle, antilambaneste@ Sas parakalw poly. Giati exoyme fqasei pia se ena shmeio poy nomizw oti den qa mporoyme na epikoinwnhsoyme.\nKAMPOYRGIANNH: Se prohgoymenh erwthsh peri politikwn eyqynwn eipate oti opoy diapistwqoyn eyqynes qa apodoqoyn. Ayto shmainei oti to qema twn politikwn eyqynwn einai anoikto gia thn kybernhsh Giati ek prwths h entypwsh htan oti aporriptete tis aitiaseis peri politikwn eyqynwn.\nREPPAS: Poios ereyna tis politikes eyqynes; Den eipa oti h kybernhsh elegxetai, sto plaisio toy koinoboyleytikoy elegxoy, apo th Boylh; Yparxoyn apanthseis gia ola ta qemata, poy mporei na qesei h antipoliteysh h opoios allos. Aytes tis apanthseis tis dinei h kybernhsh, tis dinei o armodios ypoyrgos. Kata ta alla, pragmatika, ayto einai ena tragiko gegonos. Katalabainw oti qa htan mia ikanopoihsh gia polloys, idiws gi aytoys poy eplhghsan apo ayth th symfora, to na doyne grhgora oti oloklhrwnontai oi ereynes, na maqoyn poioi einai ypeyqynoi kai na diapistwsoyn oti oi ypeyqynoi timwroyntai aysthra. Einai kati, omws, poy den mporei na to kanei kaneis twra, dyo hmeres meta, oyte h kybernhsh. Prepei na ginei h diadikasia, poy oloi exoyme apodexqei, gia na synyparxoyme se ayth thn koinwnia kai tote ola nomizw qa erqoyn sto fws.\nI. XASAPOPOYLOS: Meleta h kybernhsh, epeidh ginetai logos shmera, th dhmioyrgia ypoyrgeioy Olympiadas;\nREPPAS: Apanthsame, kat` epanalhch, arnhtika se omoia erwthmata kai paramenoyme sth qesh mas.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Friday, 29 September 2000 - 15:05:22 UTC