url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-11-23\nDeytera, 23 Noembrioy 2009\nAriqmos Deltioy: 236790771\nAqhna, 23 Noembrioy 2009\n" H prwth afora sthn Atyph Trimerh Synanthsh twn Prwqypoyrgwn ths Elladas, ths Albanias kai ths Prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias, gia thn prostasia kai thn prowqhsh koinhs politikhs diaxeirishs toy Parkoy Prespwn. Anakoinwnoyme, loipon, oti o Prwqypoyrgos ths Elladas k. Giwrgos Papandreoy proskalese toys Prwqypoyrgoys ths Albanias k. Mperisa kai ths Prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias k. Gkroyefski se Atyph Trimerh Synanthsh sthn perioxh twn Prespwn, sto Kentro Plhroforhshs Pylhs, thn Paraskeyh 27 Noembrioy 2009, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyn tis dynatothtes synergasias gia thn prostasia kai th biwsimh anaptyjh ths perioxhs toy Parkoy Prespwn.\nH prwtoboylia toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy, poy epibebaiwnei thn koryfaia proteraiothta poy apodidei h ellhnikh kybernhsh sta qemata toy periballontos, erxetai molis liges hmeres prin apo th Synodo Koryfhs ths Kopegxaghs gia thn klimatikh allagh kai dyo mhnes prin apo th symplhrwsh 10 etwn apo thn ekdosh koinoy anakoinwqentos twn tote Prwqypoyrgwn twn triwn xwrwn, stis 2 Febroyarioy 2000, Pagkosmia Hmera Ygrotopwn, me to opoio diakhryjan th desmeysh toys na synergastoyn gia thn prostasia toy oikosysthmatos twn Prespwn.\n" H deyterh anakoinwsh: Me ayth, h ellhnikh kybernhsh katadikazei, me ton pleon kathgorhmatiko tropo, thn epiqesh me aytosxedioys ekrhktikoys mhxanismoys sto politiko grafeio toy boyleyth k. Shfh Balyrakh, sta Xania. Epiqeseis tetoioy eidoys, enantion eklegmenwn ekproswpwn toy ellhnikoy laoy, strefontai kata ths Dhmokratias kai kata twn proswpwn poy th sthrizoyn. Oi armodies Arxes qa prajoyn o,ti einai dynaton, prokeimenoy na diereynhqei h ypoqesh kai na odhghqoyn oi ypeyqynoi sth Dikaiosynh.\nTOYMASHS: H profanhs ek twn lexqentwn eyaisqhsia toy Prwqypoyrgoy apenanti se oikologika zhthmata, qa einai kai h aitia poy sthn trimerh ayth synanthsh qa qesei kai qema ths dhlhthriashs toy potamoy Ajioy h Bardarh kata ta slabomakedonika, apo tis biomhxanies oi opoies afhnoyn ta apoblhta toys ekei kai me ton potamo ayto potizontai oi agrotikes ektaseis sthn ellhnikh Makedonia, alla kai dhlhthriazetai o Qermaikos;\nPETALWTHS: Sas anakoinwsa to plaisio ths synanthshs ayths poy afora sthn prostasia kai th biwsimh anaptyjh ths perioxhs twn Prespwn. Apo kei kai pera, stis synanthseis oi opoies qa ginoyn, ean teqoyn zhthmata tetoioy eidoys, qa syzhthqoyn.\nSEGKOS: O Yfypoyrgos Oikonomias proanaggellei shmera nees sygxwneyseis twn asfalistikwn Tameiwn. Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs kati tetoio, qa teqei sto dialogo ayto to qema;\nPETALWTHS: Gia to Asfalistiko, hdh o Ypoyrgos Ergasias k. Loberdos exei jekinhsei tis synanthseis me toys emplekomenoys foreis. Ayth th stigmh exei synanthsh me th GSEE kai thn ADEDY kai stis 16.00 qa exei synanthsh me th Genikh Synomospondia Epaggelmatiwn, Biotexnwn, Emporwn Elladas. Qa teqei to plaisio ths syzhthshs. Se ayto to plaisio jekiname ton koinwniko dialogo gia to Asfalistiko kai o,ti anakoinwnetai epishmws, ennoeitai oti isxyei.\nMIXAHL: Se ayton to dialogo yparxei kati to paradojo. Bebaiws, lete oti den qa balete eseis thn atzenta, alla qa th syndiamorfwsete me toys koinwnikoys etairoys. O dialogos ginetai men me ton kaq` ylhn armodio k. Loberdo, alla den ginetai me to allo skelos ths kybernhtikhs eyqynhs, ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn, o opoios qa klhqei na plhrwsei, h telos pantwn na kataqesei sto dialogo, poies oikonomikes antoxes yparxoyn. Ayto egine giati skefteste na to kanete se kapoia epomenh fash h pros to paron qelete na deite poy kinoyntai ta pragmata kai na epanelqete me pio sygkekrimenes protaseis;\nPETALWTHS: Prwton, to plaisio toy dialogoy to qetei h kybernhsh. Deyteron, jekinaei o dialogos kai epetai synexeia. Emeis anoigoyme to qema toy dialogoy gia to asfalistiko systhma, to opoio exei para polles ptyxes kai bebaia isxyoyn kai oi proeklogikes desmeyseis toy PASOK.\nGARGALAKOS: Hdh h k. Paparhga shmera, afoy tonise oti to KKE den qa parei meros sto dialogo me ta politika kommata gia to Asfalistiko, metaxeiristhke kai mia rhsh, etsi, poy prooiwnizetai, kata kapoio tropo, sygkroysh, legontas, ston polemo apantame me polemo.\nPETALWTHS: H kybernhsh me mia ypeyqynh politikh kai taktikh kalei se dialogo polites, foreis kai kommata, mesa apo mia syntetagmenh kai syntonismenh meqodeysh. Apo kei kai pera, einai qema toy kaqenos na deijei thn ypeyqynothta poy armozei, eidika sth shmerinh epoxh, na antapokriqei h na arnhqei kai me th sygkekrimenh aitiologia.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Proeklogika o k. Prwqypoyrgos eixe pei oti qa katarghsete to nomo Petralia. Isxyei ayth h proeklogikh desmeysh; Giati eidame proxqes ton Ypoyrgo Ergasias na kanei pisw.\nPETALWTHS: O Ypoyrgos Ergasias den exei kanei pisw. Oi proeklogikes desmeyseis toy PASOK isxyoyn kai malista, exei anakoinwqei oti qa ``pagwsei'' kai gia ena xrono o nomos Petralia.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Qa katarghqei; Ayto eixate desmeytei proeklogika, oti sto synolo toy qa katarghqei o nomos.\nPETALWTHS: To qema toy Asfalistikoy einai ena poly megalo zhthma. To na topoqetoymaste apospasmatika den exei kanena nohma kai adikei th synolikh mas politikh. Hdh, ta bhmata poy kanoyme prooiwnizoyn tis proqeseis mas.\nPITTARAS: Afoy lete oti efarmozete tis proeklogikes sas desmeyseis, se poia desmeysh proeklogikh egkeitai ayth h apofash se sxesh me ta akinhta kai thn ektakth eisfora gia 400.000 eyrw kai panw;\nPETALWTHS: Exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws oti kaloymaste na xeiristoyme se mia ejairetika dyskolh oikonomikh sygkyria, ta oikonomika ths xwras. Me bash ta dedomena poy exoyme, me bash tis ajies mas kai tis arxes mas, poreyomaste, prokeimenoy na mhn plhrwnoyn kaqe fora ta barh aytoi poy ta plhrwnoyn ws synhqws. Ekei poy yparxei megalh perioysia, eixame desmeytei  kai ayto kanoyme- oti qa forologhqei.\nSIDERHS: Einai h prwth fora poy toso poly anafereste stis proeklogikes sas desmeyseis. Mhpws einai mhnyma pros ton k. Papakwnstantinoy, o opoios hre tis proeklogikes sas desmeyseis kai ekane to ``pagwma'' twn misqwn anw twn 2.000 eyrw;\nPETALWTHS: H kybernhsh dra syllogika kai syntetagmena kai me bash tis proeklogikes mas desmeyseis, stis opoies anaferomai kaqe mera.\nSIDERHS: Kai afoy einai syntetagmena, giati o k. Papakwnstantinoy phre thn arxikh toy apofash pisw, na ``pagwsei'' tis apodoxes oswn einai panw apo 2.000 eyrw kai to periorise mono s` aytoys poy exoyn misqo kai syntajh tetoia;\nPETALWTHS: Opws anaferqhka kai sto briefing ths Paraskeyhs, o Proypologismos einai ena sygkekrimeno ergaleio, me to opoio poreyomaste kai deixnoyme toys prosanatolismoys mas. Ginetai enas aplos proypologismos esodwn kai ejodwn. Stoxoqetei thn politikh mas. H eisodhmatikh politikh, omws, ryqmizetai stis arxes kaqe xronoy, me leptomereies. Ekei kaqorizontai oi ayjhseis twn misqwn. Einai h prwth fora poy hdh syzhtame prin apo to nomo gia thn eisodhmatikh politikh gia tetoioy eidoys zhthmata kai gi` ayto akribws, ola ayta ta qemata menoyn anoixta, mexri na ryqmistoyn kai nomoqetika.\nSIDERHS: Xqes, se mia synenteyjh sas, anaferomenos sthn ERT, eipate gia mikro kai eyelikto sxhma. Ayto ti shmainei; Sygxwneysh staqmwn thleoptikwn h kratikwn, syrriknwsh proswpikoy h syrriknwsh dioikhtikwn yphresiwn;\nPETALWTHS: Gia thn ERT qa yparxei ena oloklhrwmeno sxedio, to opoio qa anakoinwqei.\nSIDERHS: Qa perilambanei kai apolyseis;\nPETALWTHS: To sxedio qa anakoinwqei.\nKOYKLOYMPERHS: O diorismos toy k. Zormpa, xqes, apo thn kybernhsh  o opoios na qymisw oti htan Genikos Grammateas Ejoplismwn apo thn kybernhsh Karamanlh, alla kai Proedros ths Arxhs gia to jeplyma mayroy xrhmatos- se poio plaisio entassetai; Sto plaisio toy politikoy politismoy, ths ajiokratias, toy neoy tropoy plhrwshs twn qesewn toy Dhmosioy;\nPETALWTHS: O k. Zormpas oristhke me apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy Ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn se mia sygkekrimenh qesh, ws Proedros mias Nomoparaskeyastikhs Epitrophs me sygkekrimeno antikeimeno. Ektimhqhke h empeiria kai oi gnwseis toy. Aytos htan o gnwmonas.\nSOFIANOS: Eipate oti, stis arxes toy xronoy na perimenoyme kapoies allages sthn eisodhmatikh politikh. Afhse anoixto to endexomeno kai o k. Papakwnstantinoy. Na perimenoyme kai kapoies allages ston Proypologismo, kaqws kai o idios den apekleise to endexomeno na yparjoyn allages katopin kai piesews ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, en ocei toy Febroyarioy, opote krinetai kai h paratash gia thn ejygiansh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias;\nPETALWTHS: Oi allages oi opoies problepontai, einai akribws h nomoqetikh ryqmish ths eisodhmatikhs politikhs.\nANTWNOPOYLOS: Eipate oti o dialogos gia to Asfalistiko molis exei anoijei. Exete skefqei pote qa kleisei aytos o dialogos;\nPETALWTHS: Pros to paron den exei oristei sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma, alla einai eynohto oti den qa yparxei polys xronos, prokeimenoy na yparxoyn kai apofaseis.\nBITALHS: Ws pros to Asfalistiko, kyrie Ekproswpe. Epeidh anoigete ayto to qema, hqela na rwthsw an sthn paroysa fash poy qetete to Asfalistiko yparxei h ylopoihsh ths proeklogikhs sas desmeyshs gia basikh syntajh poy qa klimakwnetai. Gia th syntajh stoys anasfalistoys, to sygkekrimeno ycos poy eipate proeklogika. Kai gia toys agrotes, to memonwmeno kai to zeygari. Ean ayta mpainoyn twra pros syzhthsh kai ylopoihsh.\nPETALWTHS: Epanalambanw gia allh mia fora kai to epanalambanw kathgorhmatika: Se o,ti desmeyqhkame proeklogika, menoyme synepeis kai qa to ylopoihsoyme.\nGIANNISHS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh dra syllogika kai syntetagmena se sxesh me to qema toy pagwmatos twn misqwn. Shmera to prwi o k. Pagkalos...\nPETALWTHS: Den eipa egw gia pagwma misqwn.\nGIANNISHS: Nai. Gia erwthsh toy synadelfoy htan, dieykrinistikh. Shmera o k. Pagkalos se mia prwinh toy synenteyjh, oysiastika apodokimase toys xeirismoys toy oikonomikoy epiteleioy. Einai ayth syllogikh kai syntetagmenh drash;\nPETALWTHS: Epeidh diabasa to apomagnhtofwnhmeno keimeno ths synenteyjhs toy k. Pagkaloy, den eida kamia apodokimasia toy oikonomikoy epiteleioy.\nPOLYMEROS: Na sas gyrisw sthn trimerh synanthsh poy qa ginei stis 27 Noembrioy. Ektos twn oikologikwn qematwn kai thn prostasia toy parkoy twn Prespwn, qa syzhthqoyn kai alla qemata metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy Giwrgoy Papandreoy kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy twn Skopiwn k. Gkroyefski;\nPETALWTHS: Sto plaisio kai dimerwn synanthsewn, oi opoies piqanon na ginoyn, qa syzhthqoyn kai oti qemata aforoyn tis xwres.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Qa einai kai politikh dhladh;\nPETALWTHS: Qa ginei syzhthsh metajy twn Prwqypoyrgwn triwn xwrwn.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Kai gia to qema ths onomasias ths Prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias;\nPETALWTHS: Jekaqarizoyme gia allh mia fora oti gia to qema ths onomasias yparxei mia diadikasia, h opoia akoloyqeitai edw kai xronia: H diaboyleysh mesw toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn kai mono.\nPITTARAS: Na epanelqw sthn oikonomia. Kai epeidh lete oti kineiste me bash sygkekrimenes arxes kai ylopoieite desmeyseis sas, eseis pws jerete oti o kosmos, ta mesaia eisodhmata exoyn xrhmata gia na plhrwnoyn to ektakto xaratsi poy bazete sta akinhta, na plhrwnoyn ta ayjhmena telh kykloforias kai esxatws ta ayjhmena asfalistra; Kai taytoxrona na sas akoyne na lete oti qa antimetwpisete th forodiafygh kai to mono poy exoyme dei mexri twra einai ena efe sthn plateia Kolwnakioy.\nPETALWTHS: Aytes einai dikes sas ektimhseis kai apoceis. Fysika einai sebastes. Emeis, me bash osa desmeyqhkame prin apo tis ekloges kai lambanontas mia sygkekrimenh entolh apo ton ellhniko lao, me ta dedomena poy exoyme, ylopoioyme tis desmeyseis mas. Eixame desmeyqei gia ton foro Megalhs Akinhths Perioysias kai ayto akribws kanoyme.\nKOYTRAS: Einai megalh akinhth perioysia ena akinhto 400.000 eyrw;\nPETALWTHS: Gia na dieykrinisoyme: Prwta ap` ola milame gia atomikh perioysia kai oxi oikogeneiakh. Kai milame gia akinhta me sygkekrimenh antikeimenikh ajia- kai gnwrizoyme ti shmainei antikeimenikh ajia.\nMIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epitrecte moy na epanelqw sto qema poy sas eqesan oi synadelfoi sxetika me to poso drate syllogika kai syntetagmena. To gegonos oti h kybernhsh enw arxika eixe afhsei na ennohqei oti den qa paroyn ayjhsh oi apo 2.000 kai panw, telika ayto ginetai mono sto basiko misqo ejairoymenwn twn epidomatwn. O olos xeirismos den sas problhmatizei, dedomenoy oti o k. Papakwnstantinoy, anejarthta an xeiristhke swsta h laqos to qema, me oles aytes tis antidraseis sta matia twn agorwn stis opoies qa prepei na prosfygei gia na zhthsei daneismo kai sta matia twn Eyrwpaiwn me toys opoioys synomilei, emfanizetai ws adynamos Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, o opoios th mia ejaggellei kai thn allh to anatrepete. Ayth h eikona sas problhmatizei; Giati einai mia synepeia thn opoia den thn exete anadeijei.\nPETALWTHS: Ws pros ``ta matia'' kai thn ajiopistia stis jenes agores: Emeis, eimaste aytoi poy erxomaste na diaxeiristoyme to terastio elleimma ajiopistias poy exei h xwra mas sto ejwteriko, to opoio exei amesh sxesh kai me ta oikonomika mas, akomh kai me thn kaqhmerinothta mas. Einai, loipon, logiko kai epomeno, prospaqwntas na feroyme se peras ayto to dyskolo dhmosionomiko ergo, na problhmatizomaste kai na kanoyme tis aparaithtes diapistwseis kai aposafhniseis, otan kai opoy xreiazetai. Kai na ypenqymisw ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws: Oi telikes apofaseis ths kybernhshs, se sxesh me tis ayjhseis twn misqwn qa apotypwnontai se ena sygkekrimeno nomoqetiko keimeno poy qa afora thn eisodhmatikh politikh, stis arxes ths xronias.\nBLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa epanelqw se mia erwthsh giati den katalaba akribws thn apanthsh sas. Protiqeste na proxwrhsete se nees sygxwneyseis Tameiwn;\nPETALWTHS: Nomizw oti einai akairo ayth th stigmh na milhsw egw gia apofaseis se sxesh me to Asfalistiko, otan o dialogos jekina shmera kai exei para polles, fysika, ekfanseis kai polles tomes poy prepei na ginoyn.\nNANOS: Gia toys Genikoys Grammateis hqela na rwthsw. Epeidh parathreitai to fainomeno, opote sas askoyn kritikh na anakoinwnete thn idia mera toys Genikoys Grammateis, exoyme kapoio xroniko orio gia to pote qa topoqethqoyn;\nPETALWTHS: Toys Genikoys kai toys Eidikoys Grammateis twn Ypoyrgeiwn toys anakoinwnoyme otan yparxei h wrimothta pros anakoinwsh. Ayth einai h grammh mas, ayth einai h stash ths kybernhshs. Kai pisteyoyme oti to apotelesma mas dikaiwnei.\nSIDERHS: Otan se enamish mhna exoyn anakoinwqei kati ligotero apo toys misoys, mhpws prepei na amfibaloyme gia thn apotelesmatikothta ths kybernhshs gia thn opoia milate;\nPETALWTHS: Eseis mporeite na amfibalete. Emeis pisteyoyme oti exoyme mia sygkekrimenh meqodeysh, akrws kainotoma, h opoia ferei kai ta poqhta apotelesmata.\nZAFEIRIADOY: Qa prosejate, k. Ekproswpe, ston xqesino Typo, toylaxiston dyo dhmosieymata poy epesan sth dikh moy antilhch, ta opoia amfisbhtoyn to oti h idia diadikasia akoloyqhqhke gia oloys toys Genikoys Grammateis poy exoyn oristei. Aixmes yphrjan kai sta shmerina fylla gia kapoioys apo toys 14 poy anakoinwsate xqes. Exei diablhqei, telika, ayth h diadikasia, h kainotoma, poy eipate kai eseis;\nPETALWTHS: H diadikasia exei jekinhsei kai proxwrei me toys ryqmoys, oi opoioi prokyptoyn kai me ta apotelesmata poy, epishs, prokyptoyn.\nBITALHS: Qelw na moy jekaqarisete akribws, an sas einai eykolo dhladh, th qesh ths kybernhshs me thn peribohth bash toy 10. Prin merikes hmeres, eixame ena mazema kapoias prwths ejaggelias ths Ypoyrgoy, gia katarghsh. Shmera, diabazw sta ``NEA'', an den apatwmai, oti ayto einai proeklogikh desmeysh ths k. Ypoyrgoy. Einai proeklogikh desmeysh toy PASOK kai qa ginei. Poia akribws einai h qesh sas me th bash toy 10;\nPETALWTHS: To na leei kapoios Ypoyrgos h Yfypoyrgos thn apoch toy, nomizw oti to dikaioytai. Alla to qetiko  kai to mono qetiko gia thn kybernhsh- einai ayto poy fainetai se ypoyrgikes apofaseis kai se nomoqetika keimena. Mesa sto genikotero plaisio allaghs ths ekpaideyshs, qa yparjoyn kai eidikoteres ryqmiseis kai ws pros ayto to zhthma.\nXRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, polla akoygontai gia gkrinies sto eswteriko toy PASOK. Kapoioi lene oti sxedon poinikopoieitai to na einai kapoios melos toy Kinhmatos. Pisteyete stis dyskoles apofaseis poy erxontai, qa sthrijei to komma tis epiloges ths kybernhshs h qa staqei apenanti ths;\nPETALWTHS: Hdh, para ayta poy lete kai ta diabazw kai egw, to komma brisketai syntetagmena dipla sthn kybernhsh. Exw pei  kai exoyme pei polles fores- oti o rolos toy kommatos kai o rolos ths kybernhshs einai roloi diakritoi. Kai fysika o rolos toy kommatos einai epibohqhtikos sto dyskolo ergo ths kybernhshs.\nGIANNISHS: Armodiothtes oi Yfypoyrgoi, pote qa laboyn;\nPETALWTHS: Oi Yfypoyrgoi lambanoyn armodiothtes me tis gnwstes, typikes diadikasies. Se ligo, qa oloklhrwqoyn kai qa anakoinwqoyn.\nTOYMASHS: Epanerxomenos sthn erwthsh toy synadelfoy peri Paideias, qa hqela prwton, na anaferw oti doqhke sth dhmosiothta ekqesh ths Komision poy anaferei oti ta ellhnika panepisthmia ``kataktoyn'' thn teleytaia qesh se gnwstiko kai maqhsiako epipedo. Qa hqela, loipon, na rwthsw, an pera apo ta genikologa eyxologia, problepontai sygkekrimena kai safh anadiorganwtika metra kai sxedia apo thn kybernhsh gia na anatrapei ayth h gnwstikh kai maqhsiakh katrakyla, poy apotypwnetai sta ellhnika panepisthmia.\nPETALWTHS: Thn katastash twn ellhnikwn panepisthmiwn th gnwrizoyme oloi, th biwnoyme oloi. Ayto ginetai bash, ws proklhsh gia thn kybernhsh, na allajei kai thn tritobaqmia ekpaideysh, me tis gnwstes xronies paqogeneies poy exoyme diapistwsei. Kai fysika qa yparxei ryqmish kai gia thn anwtath ekpaideysh kai malista apo enan eyrytato dialogo olwn twn emplekomenwn forewn.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Qa ikanopoioyse thn kybernhsh an o Syndesmos Ellhnwn Biomhxanwn, stis diapragmateyseis poy jekinhse me th GSEE, symfwnoyse se analoges ayjhseis me aytes poy ejhggeile h kybernhsh mesw toy Proypologismoy, ths tajews toy 1,5%;\nPETALWTHS: Oi diapragmateyseis anamesa ston SEB kai th GSEE, (diejagontai), opws orizontai apo to nomo. Einai syllogikes diapragmateyseis. Ginontai metajy toys kai den qa mporoysame  ennoeite- emeis na ekfrasoyme apoch shmera.\nSEGKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mporeite na mas peite pote qa jekinhsei o dialogos gia tis ergasiakes sxeseis, epeidh hdh exei jekinhsei to Asfalistiko kai den exei teqei ayto to qema;\nPETALWTHS: Otan qa jekinhsei, qa anakoinwqei. Opws blepete, emeis anoigoyme ta qemata. Eimaste kybernhsh, h opoia ergazetai kai anoigei kai ola ta pedia opoy prepei na yparxoyn parembaseis.\nPOLYMEROS: Panw se ayto: Exoyn perasei peripoy 50 hmeres apo thn hmera poy analabate ta kaqhkonta kai ta hnia ths xwras. Pws aisqanetai h kybernhsh; Einai akadhmaiko to erwthma, alla mporeite na to apanthsete. Pws aisqaneste ws kybernhsh;\nPETALWTHS: Qa epanalabw ayto poy eipa kai prohgoymenws: Eimaste mia kybernhsh, h opoia ergazetai. Mia kybernhsh poy anoigei ola ta zhthmata kai poy qa meinei pisth stis proeklogikes ths desmeyseis. Emeis, ta problhmata ta antimetwpizoyme ws proklhsh. Den apologoymaste shmera. Emeis eimaste aytoi poy prokaloyme th dhmosiopoihsh toys. Ta apotypwnoyme, ta katagrafoyme kai gi` ayto akribws apeyqynoyme kai prosklhsh se oloys toys emplekomenoys foreis -polites kai kommata- na symmetexoyn se ena megalo dialogo gia thn epilysh twn megalwn problhmatwn ths xwras mas.\nPOLYMEROS: Ep` aytoy: Eiste eyxaristhmenoi, dhladh, apo to ergo poy ginetai aytes tis 50 hmeres; Ayto, an mporeite na mas apanthsete. An einai eyxaristhmenh h kybernhsh.\nPETALWTHS: Emeis, eimaste sthn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy. Ayto poy kanoyme einai na ergazomaste. Ayto poy kanoyme einai na skeftomaste kainoyrgies lyseis. Kai nomizw oti h kybernhsh einai pisth stis prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy. Ylopoiei thn elpida poy ths edwse o ellhnikos laos stis 4 Oktwbrioy.\nKAMPOYRAKHS: As to kanw egw ligo pio sygkekrimeno. O Prwqypoyrgos einai ikanopoihmenos apo thn apodosh kai thn poreia ths kybernhshs aytoys toys peripoy dyo mhnes;\nMANOS: Apo toys Ypoyrgoys;\nPETALWTHS: Apanthsa: Bebaiws.\nSIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h parembash Papoytsh, poy efere thn ypanaxwrhsh Papakwnstantinoy, stoixizei ston kratiko korbana gyrw sta 280 me 300 ekat. eyrw. Eklhqh o k. Papoytshs na pei poy qa breqoyn ayta ta lefta poy afairoyntai, meta thn parembash toy, apo ta dhmosia esoda;\nPETALWTHS: Exw pei kai allh fora oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh einai ayth poy xarazei thn ypeyqynh politikh. H ellhnikh kybernhsh einai ayth poy ylopoiei tis desmeyseis. Kai apo ekei kai pera, o rolos toy Koinoboylioy einai diakritos, einai shmantikotatos kai safws synapofasizei kai lambanontai ypoch oles oi protaseis.\nPITTARAS: Epeidh epimenete na dhlwnete pisth stis proeklogikes sas desmeyseis, o k. Papandreoy eixe desmeyqei proeklogika pws kaneis, o opoios qa epilegei se qesh Genikoy Grammatea Ypoyrgeioy, den qa exei diatelesei sto idio posto sto parelqon. Xqes, ena apo ta onomata poy anakoinwsete eixe diatelesei sto idio akribws posto.\nPETALWTHS: Gia poio onoma milate;\nPITTARAS: Gia thn k. Mendwnh. Poia proeklogikh desmeysh, loipon, akoloyqhsate;\nPETALWTHS: Ayth th diadikasia, gia thn epilogh Genikwn Grammatewn, pragmatika, nomizw oti qa th zhleyan polla krath ston kosmo. Einai mia diadikasia, h opoia fernei ta kalytera apotelesmata, h opoia synektima, mesa apo diafaneia kai ajiokratia, ta oysiastika prosonta, thn politikh empeiria, thn koinwnikh prosfora. Kai nomizw oti gi` ayth th diadikasia qa prepei na eimaste yperhfanoi.\nPITTARAS: Den sas kathgorhse kaneis oti den akoloyqeite ajiokratika krithria. Allo pragma lew.\nPETALWTHS: Kai thn erwthsh sas thn akoysa kai h apanthsh moy einai ayth poy sas edwsa.\nPITTARAS: Qymaste ti eixe pei o k. Papandreoy;\nPETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa me osa hdh sas eipa.\nSOFIANOS: Xqes, yphrjan dhmosieymata poy epanaferoyn sto proskhnio to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA. Kata poso epibebaiwnontai  anaferomai sthn ``KAQHMERINH'', an den kanw laqos- gia dyo sygkekrimenes hmeromhnies, eite ligo prin ta Xristoygenna, eite meta, ton Ianoyario. Se poio shmeio briskontai oi diapragmateyseis gia thn epikeimenh episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA;\nPETALWTHS: Ayta kaqorizontai mesw ths diplwmatikhs odoy kai anakoinwnontai otan yparxei hmeromhnia pros anakoinwsh.\nSOFIANOS: An moy epitrepete, thn Paraskeyh, an den kanw laqos h thn Pempth, yphrje apanthsh toy Ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn se epikairh erwthsh ths Neas Dhmokratias gia thn chfo twn omogenwn, xwris na dwsei sygkekrimenes hmeromhnies. Eipe apla oti, otan qa ejasfalisoyme ta 2/3 poy apaitoyntai gia thn allagh, qa kataqesoyme to nomosxedio. Dhladh, pote; Qa yparxei kapoio xronodiagramma; H Nea Dhmokratia den exei akomh kan Proedro. Me poion qa diapragmateyqei kai pote qa yparjei ayth h ekkinhsh toy dialogoy gia thn ejasfalish twn 2/3;\nPETALWTHS: H chfos twn omogenwn einai ena zhthma poy mas exei apasxolhsei kai ws antipoliteysh. Emeis, eixame mia sygkekrimenh qesh: Oi omogeneis prepei na ekproswpoyntai apo omogeneis. Na yparxei gnhsia antiproswpeysh toys sto ellhniko Koinoboylio kai me bash aytes tis arxes qa kataqesoyme tis apoceis kai tis protaseis mas, prospaqwntas na eimaste synainetikoi, etsi wste na yparxei ayth h pleiochfia twn 2/3, prokeimenoy h chfos twn omogenwn, twn apodhmwn, na ginei kai prajh.\nSOFIANOS: Pote peripoy;\nPETALWTHS: Den mporw na sas pw sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia. Einai mia diadikasia, h opoia qa ejelixqei kai den einai fysika qema mias hmeras h mias ebdomadas.\nSEGKOS: Sto dialogo gia tis ergasiakes sxeseis, otan jekinhsei, qa teqoyn pros syzhthsh kai oi teleytaies apofaseis toy EKOFIN gia th xwra mas;\nPETALWTHS: O dialogos qa einai anoiktos kai qa yparxei sygkekrimeno plaisio.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Lambanei mesa tis apofaseis toy EKOFIN;\nPETALWTHS: Otan qa jekinhsei o dialogos panw sto sygkekrimeno qema, qa to deite.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Monday, 23 November 2009 - 18:02:05 UTC


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url: = Neo kyma kakokairias apo ayrio.\n Entos toy 2002 qa oloklhrwqei h forologikh metarryqmish\n Sta Skopia o Kwstas Karamanlhs\n Shmiths-Pagkosmia Hmera Paidioy\n Tzortz Mpoys-Omologia Lanten\n Diarkhs Iera Synodos\nNeo kyma kakokairias problepei apo ayrio to apogeyma h Metewrologikh Yphresia, me kyria xarakthristika tis broxes, tis xionoptwseis sta oreina kai tis xamhles qermokrasies. Omws kai shmera paramenoyn ta problhmata apo thn prosfath kakokairia. Se polles oreines perioxes ejakoloyqoyn na einai apokleismena dekades xwria, enw h kykloforia twn aytokinhtwn ginetai me antiolisqhtikes alysides. Kleista paramenoyn ta porqmeia Rioy-Antirrioy kai Kabalas-Prinoy, enw den pragmatopoioyntai ta dromologia twn taxyplown skafwn sto Sarwniko. Kai shmera epikratei tsoyxtero kryo, enw sto Neyrokopi o ydrargyros aggije toys meion 14 baqmoys Kelsioy.\nH forologikh metarryqmish qa oloklhrwqei entos toy 2002 kai qa exei stoxo thn aplopoihsh toy systhmatos forologhshs, thn endynamwsh twn anaptyjiakwn prooptikwn ths oikonomias kai th dikaioterh katanomh twn forologikwn barwn. Ayto tonise o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Nikos Xristodoylakhs, milwntas stis ergasies toy Ellhnoamerikanikoy Epimelhthrioy kai prosqese oti oi idiwtikopoihseis dhmosiwn epixeirhsewn qa synexistoyn kai qa epitaxynqoyn. Sto idio synedrio o proedros ths ND Kwstas Karamanlhs, askhse ojeia kritikh sthn oikonomikh politikh ths kybernhshs, epikrinontas idiaiterws toys xeirismoys sto qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy, alla kai sthn idiwtikopoihsh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias.\nSynexizontai oi agrotikes kinhtopoihseis, enw oi agrotes qa apofasisoyn meqayrio Pempth an qa proxwrhsoyn se apokleismoys twn dromwn. Elaioparagwgoi ths Messhnias me peripoy 25 trakter exoyn apokleisei thn eqnikh odo Tripolhs-Kalamatas, sto ycos ths Tsakwnas. O kybernhtikos ekproswpos eyxhqhke na prytaneysei h logikh kai prosqese pws o apokleismos twn dromwn dhmioyrgei problhmata sto synolo ths koinwnias.\nSta Skopia brisketai o proedros ths ND Kwstas Karamanlhs, me thn idiothta toy epikefalhs ths prwtoboylias "Gia th Dhmokratia sta Dytika Balkania" toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos. Qa synanthqei me ton proedro kai ton prwqypoyrgo ths PGDM kaqws kai toys proedroys twn kommatwn. Ayrio o k. Karamanlhs qa metabei sth Gioygkoslabia, opoy qa synanthqei me ton proedro ths Omospondiakhs Dhmokratias Boislab Kostoynitsa. Epishs o k. Karamanlhs qa episkefqei to Kosobo, kaqws kai to stratopedo poy edreyei h ellhnikh tajiarxia. Telos, meqayrio Pempth qa episkefqei tis Bryjelles, prokeimenoy na symmetasxei sth dieyrymenh Synodo Koryfhs toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos.\nErwtiko drama ektylixqhke to prwi sto Keratsini, ston Peiraia. O Kwstas Lamprinos, 45 xronwn, perieloyse me benzinh kai ekace thn 28xronh filh toy, Maria Tzanetoy kai sth synexeia aytopyrpolhqhke. Symfwna me plhrofories to qyma eixe zhthsei apo to drasth kai aytoxeira na diakocoyn tis sxeseis toys. Oi goneis toy qymatos kaqws kai oi enoikoi ths polykatoikias den prolaban na parasxoyn kammia bohqeia, enw otan eftasan oi andres ths Pyrosbestikhs Yphresias, brhkan apanqrakwmena ta swmata toys.\nSynedriazei shmera h Diarkhs Iera Synodos, enw thn epomenh Paraskeyh qa ginoyn oi ekloges twn ierarxwn stis kenes Mhtropoleis Syroy, Sidhrokastroy kai Xalkidos. O arxiepiskopos Xristodoylos se synenteyjh toy sthn ET3 anaferqhke stis diafwnies poy parathroyntai stoys kolpoys ths Ierarxias, me aformh tis ekloges mhtropolitwn kai ta proswpa ta opoia yposthrizontai. Tonise oti oi diafwnies einai endeijh ygeias kai eleyqerias, ftanei bebaia, opws eipe, na mhn legontai baries koybentes poy qigoyn thn ajioprepeia.\n"Mia koinwnia mporei na exei prooptikh mono an ependysei sto paron ths stoxeyontas sto mellon. Kai to paron einai ta paidia. Ta paidia einai ayta poy enwnoyn to shmera me to ayrio kai to logismo me to oneira". Ayto tonizei o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths, se mhnyma toy me aformh th shmerinh Pagkosmia Hmera toy Paidioy kai ton ethsio Maraqwnio Agaphs, poy diorganwnetai apo thn Ellhnikh Epitroph Synergasias me thn Gioynisef se synergasia me th NET.\nTis trihmeres kinhtopoihseis toys arxisan xqes oi agrotes diekdikwntas beltiwmenes times sta proionta toys kai thn erxomenh Pempth qa apofasisoyn gia tis peraiterw kinhtopoihseis toys. Oi agrotes ths Qessalias, ths Makedonias, ths Axaias, ths Krhths katebasan ta trakter toys stis plateies twn polewn, enw agrotika mhxanhmata yparxoyn parategmena kata mhkos ths eqnikhs odoy Qessalonikhs-Giannitswn, alla kai sth diastayrwsh ths neas eqnikhs odoy me thn palaia Larisas-Boloy.\nXamhles qermokrasies se olh th xwra, pageto th nyxta kai nwris to prwi kyriws sta boreia, proskaires xionoptwseis sta oreina kai boreioys isxyroys mexri poly isxyroys anemoys problepei gia shmera h Eqnikh Metewrologikh Yphresia. Shmantika problhmata prokalesan oi prosfates xionoptwseis kai einai apokleismena arketa oreina xwria,\nenw se megalo meros toy eparxiakoy odikoy diktyoy h kinhsh twn oxhmatwn ginetai mono me antiolisqhtikes alysides.\nO pleon ychlobaqmos stratiwtikos ajiwmatoyxos twn Talimpan kai o anwteros ypeyqynos twn yphresiwn plhroforhshs toys exoyn syllhfqei se perioxh toy Kantaxar, sto Afganistan kata th diarkeia twn teleytaiwn hmerwn apo tis dynameis ths antipoliteyshs, anakoinwse xqes to brady o Amerikanos yfypoyrgos Amynhs Pol Goylfobits. Mia bash sthn opoia stegazontai melh ths Al Kainta kai toy Osama mpin Lanten epese xqes sta xeria toy dioikhth Xasrat Ali.\nO Amerikanos proedros einai piqano na dhmosiopoihsei sth diarkeia ths ebdomadas thn binteokaseta poy apotelei omologia toy Osama mpin Lanten gia to tromokratiko xtyphma ths 11hs Septembrioy. Shmera se perissoteres apo 70 xwres, anamesa toys kai polles moysoylmanikes qa symmetasxoyn stis ekdhlwseis mnhmhs poy diorganwnontai stis HPA gia ta peripoy 3.600 qymata ths 11hs Septembrioy, opws anakoinwqhke apo to Leyko Oiko.\nThn anagkh xarajhs eqnikhs strathgikhs gia thn proselkysh ameswn jenwn ependysewn kai eqnikhs strathgikhs ejagwgwn ejefrase o proedros ths ND milwntas sto synedrio toy Ellhnoamerikanikoy Epimelhthrioy. O proedros toy SYN ekane logo gia elleimma enos oloklhrwmenoy diktyoy koinwnikhs prostasias kai xarakthrise ton proypologismo toy 2002 exqriko pros toys ergazomenoys. O proedros toy DHKKI tonise apo pleyras toy ayjhsh ths anergias problepontas anejelegktes koinwnikes ekrhjeis.\nApo to Asteroskopeio Aqhnwn anakoinwqhke oti stis 21:50 shmeiwqhke asqenhs seismikh donhsh 4,5 baqmwn ths klimakas rixter me epikentro th qalassia perioxh twn Kykladwn. H donhsh eixe estiako baqos 150 xiliometrwn me apotelesma na mh ginei aisqhth stis Kyklades alla sthn Krhth.\nH Ellada emmenei stis epifylajeis ths gia to amerikanobretaniko keimeno poy kaqorizei tis sxeseis ths Toyrkias me ton eyrwstrato.\nOpws anefere o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy, h Ellada kateqese xqes sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn tis enstaseis ths gia tis amerikanobretanikes protaseis, poy aforoyn tis sxeseis ths Toyrkias me thn ypo diamorfwsh eyrwpaikh taytothta asfaleias kai amynas, me synepeia na parapemfqei to qema sth synodo koryfhs ths EE sto Laaken (14-15 Dekembrioy) h kai argotera akomh, an den breqei koina apodekth lysh oyte apo toys arxhgoys kratwn kai kybernhsewn.\nMesa se klima entashs synerxetai shmera to prwi h Diarkhs Iera Synodos gia to mhna Dekembrio. Thn Paraskeyh 14 Dekembrioy, qa ginoyn oi ekloges twn ierarxwn stis kenes mhtropoleis Syroy, Sidhrokastroy kai Xalkidos, afoy hdh apofasisqhke h sygklhsh ths Ierarxias. O arxiepiskopos Aqhnwn kai Pashs Ellados k. Xristodoylos, se synenteyjh poy edwse sto trio kanali ths ellhnikhs thleorashs, anaferqhke stis diafwnies poy parathroyntai stoys kolpoys ths Ierarxias, ton teleytaio kairo me aformh tis ekloges twn mhtropolitwn kai ta proswpa poy yposthrizontai.\nana2html v2.01 run on Tuesday, 11 December 2001 - 12:32:26 UTC


url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-06-04\nParaskeyh, 4 Ioynioy 2010\nAriqmos Deltioy: 271172198\nAqhna, 4 Ioynioy 2010\nSto teleytaio atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai sth synenteyjh Typoy poy akoloyqhse, oi armodioi ypoyrgoi edwsan to stigma ths kybernhshs sxetika me thn ajiopoihsh toy apoqematos ploytoy ths xwras. Enos yparktoy ploytoy, megaloy, en pollois anajiopoihto, poy sxedon pote den eixe kan katagrafei. Emeis proxwrame sthn oysiastikh katagrafh ths dhmosias perioysias, ths perioysias toy ellhnikoy laoy.\nEinai gegonos oti h xwra mas biwnei problhmata se dhmosionomiko kai xrhmatopistwtiko epipedo. Eimaste, bebaia, meros enos mhxanismoy sthrijhs poy mas epitrepei na kerdisoyme xrono, na mhn anhsyxoyme gia to daneismo mas apo tis agores, braxyproqesma. O xronos, omws, aytos poy kerdizoyme, einai polytimos kai prepei na ton diaxeiristoyme me ton pio apotelesmatiko tropo.\nExoyme milhsei polles fores gia tis agkylwseis toy dhmosioy tomea poy exoyn odhghsei sth dhmioyrgia enos ydrokefaloy, dyskinhtoy, aproswpoy kai en telei, adiafanoys kai anapotelesmatikoy kratoys, poy anti na ejyphretei ton polith ton talaipwrei.\nGnwrizoyme oloi tis anoixtes plhges pollwn organismwn, opws gia paradeigma, o OSE, poy eftase na exei ethsies zhmies ena disekatommyrio eyrw kai sysswreymena xreh ths tajhs twn deka disekatommyriwn eyrw, yphresies xamhloy epipedoy, yperogka xreh, kataspatalhsh toy dhmosioy xrhmatos, deina ta opoia telika epwmizontai oi Ellhnes polites.\nAyth einai h katastash shmera se polloys dhmosioys organismoys. Proxwrame, loipon, se mia politikh anadiarqrwshs kai ejorqologismoy toy dhmosioy tomea, poy qa beltiwsei th dhmosionomikh katastash ths xwras, apo ta esoda poy mporei na eisprajei to dhmosio. Qa ajiopoihsei to dynamismo ths idiwtikhs oikonomias, odhgwntas se anaptyjh kai telika qa epiferei oysiastikh anabaqmish ths poiothtas zwhs toy Ellhna polith.\nSe ayth thn kateyqynsh den dexomaste kamia ekptwsh, oyte qa proboyme se bebiasmenes kinhseis. Proxwrame panta, ejasfalizontas thn energh kai oysiastikh symmetoxh toy Dhmosioy, se epixeirhseis strathgikhs shmasias kai eqnikhs asfaleias, me gnwmona th diasfalish twn dhmosiwn agaqwn kai thn prostasia toy dhmosioy symferontos kai twn Ellhnwn politwn.\nBLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na sas balw sth qesh toy polith, oxi oti eiste Ekproswpos. Eiste enas poliths poy anhsyxeite gia thn poreia ths xwras kai eiste sto spiti sas, anoigete thn thleorash h to radiofwno h tis efhmerides kai diapistwnete oti se ayth thn krisimh stigmh, se ena krisimo tomea gia thn tseph sas, gia thn oikonomia gia th xwra, gia thn eyhmeria toy ellhnikoy laoy, oi kratikopoihseis, oi ypoyrgoi tsakwnontai paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poios qa exei to panw xeri. Ayto eprepe na eixe lyqei prin apo th synedriash kai kyriws na eixe lyqei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Pisteyete oti eginan laqos xeirismoi apo thn pleyra twn armodiwn;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta apo ola, nomizw oti einai ontws poly logiko na erxomaste sth qesh toy polith, giati eimaste polites ayths ths xwras kai toylaxiston ayth h kybernhsh leitoyrgei me ayto ton tropo. As mhn jexname oti milame gia ena atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, poy exei katastei qesmos. Den einai typiko Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Einai ena atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, opoy apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo exei doqei to stigma, o rolos, o xarakthras enos xwroy ``ojygonwshs'' ths politikhs zwhs kai ths politikhs syzhthshs. Prohgeitai to atypo apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, poy shmainei, ti; Oti emeis synedriazoyme, syzhtame eleyqera akomh kai me diafwnies, giati ayto einai to shmantiko, ayto einai poy eleipe apo thn politikh zwh ths xwras mas. Ekei ginetai olh h gonimh syzhthsh kai h gonimh syzhthsh proypoqetei na yparxoyn kai diaforetikes proseggiseis kai apo toys ypoyrgoys, akomh kai apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo. Kai afoy oloklhrwqoyn oi syzhthseis sto atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio akoloyqoyn ta nomoqethmata akoloyqoyn to dromo toys.\nDen qa symfwnhsw se ayto poy eipate oti dhladh oi ypoyrgoi tsakwnontai. Oi diaforetikes proseggiseis den einai tsakwmos. Epishs, den yphrxe kanena tetoio zhthma, oti dhladh kaqe ypoyrgos prospaqei na krathsei tis apokratikopoihseis gia to ypoyrgeio toy. Kai malista to stigma ayto doqhke apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo, o opoios sthn eishghsh toy periegrace pws leitoyrgoyn edw kai dekaeties ta ypoyrgeia, opoy kaqe ypoyrgos qewrei oti exei na kanei me diko toy feoydo. Emeis allazoyme ayth thn antilhch. Dhmioyrgoyme synantilhch metajy ypoyrgeiwn. Kai fysika, se ena tetoio megalo zhthma poy an to onomasoyme ``apokratikopoihseis'' adikoyme thn oysia - o swstos oros einai ajiopoihsh ths perioysias toy Dhmosioy - yparxoyn para polles parametroi me polla synqeta zhthmata. Sto proxqesino atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, den elhfqhsan apofaseis kata organismo, kata forea h kata ypoyrgeio. Alla doqhke ena sygkekrimeno plaisio, ena sygkekrimeno stigma kai ayto poy symfwnhqhke na doqei, einai to anaptyjiako plaisio, to opoio prosdioristhke kai kata th syzhthsh toy atypoy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Ayth einai h alhqeia kai ayth h alhqeia prepei na proslhfqei kai apo ton Ellhna polith. Edw den milame gia typiko Ypoyrgiko Symboylio poy mono apofasizei. Milame gia ena neo qesmo, ston opoio ginetai syzhthsh, antallagh idewn, proseggish etsi wste na yparxei h kalyterh epejergasia kai na ftasoyme se ekeines tis anadiarqrwseis kai se ekeines tis metarryqmiseis poy den eginan epi para polles dekaeties kai gi ayto ftasame se ayto to shmeio. Kai sas diabebaiwnw oti ayto egine me ton pio gonimo tropo.\nBLAXOS : To na oristei kapoios poy na kinhsei th diadikasia, ayto poy eseis lete, opws to lete, egw to lew ``apokratikopoihseis'', den einai armodiothta, h epilogh toy proswpoy aytoy, toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Giati shmera akoysa ton Prwqypoyrgo sth Boylh na leei oti biwnoyme thn pio krisimh stigmh sthn istoria ths xwras. Ara, loipon, edw den milame gia syzhthseis, edw milame gia apofaseis.\nBLAXOS: Xreiazontai, loipon, apofaseis, edw kai twra. Den exoyme thn polyteleia na syzhtame kai na tsakwnomaste h na antallassoyme apoceis kai xreiazetai ayth th stigmh ena xeri panw apo oloys, dhladh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, na apofasisei. Orizw ayton... telos... Ayto giati den egine; Ayto rwtaw.\nPETALWTHS: Antilhpto ti rwtate, alla den mporw na syntaxqw me ayto poy lete oti den egine. H syzhthsh den htan oyte qewrhtikh oyte ideologikh. Sta atypa Ypoyrgika den ginetai qewrhtikh syzhthsh. Ayth ginetai se alla organa, isws kommatika h opoydhpote alloy. Ekei syzhtame gia sygkekrimena zhthmata me sygkekrimenes parametroys kai fysika den yphrxe periptwsh se ena megalo zhthma opoy exoyme organismoys, oi opoioi pragmatika epibarynoyn ton Ellhna polith, me parexomenes yphresies poy ypoleipontai shmantikotata, na yparxei mia kaqeth apofash.\nBLAXOS: Poios qa syntonizei, k. Ekproswpe, telika; Den to exoyme maqei akomh.\nPETALWTHS: Kaqe ypoyrgeio exei tis dikes toy armodiothtes. Apo kei kai pera, oson afora sthn akinhth perioysia armodio einai to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn, to opoio orizei kai einai ypeyqyno gia th dhmosia perioysia. Kaqe ypoyrgeio, sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn toy, qa frontisei kai qa merimnhsei kai qa exei thn eyqynh gia toys organismoys toys opoioys epopteyei. Ola ayta qa paroyn th seira toys, etsi wste na ginoyn kai oi apokratikopoihseis kai oi anadiarqrwseis kai h ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias.\nKOYTRAS: Prwton, ti qa ginei me thn KED, thn opoia o k. Papakwnstantinoy proorizei gia na syntonisei oles aytes tis apokratikopoihseis se o,ti afora ta akinhta, kai o k. Pagkalos eipe oti einai diefqarmenh. Deyteron, h diafora sto sygkekrimeno atypo, einai oti meta anakoinwqhkan apofaseis, den egine kapoio typiko Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Kai triton, ti ekane ton Prwqypoyrgo na milhsei, na zhthsei mallon, kalyterh synergasia metajy twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn; Profanws, yparxei kapoio problhma.\nPETALWTHS: Na jekinhsw apo to teleytaio skelos ths erwthshs sas kai na pw oti den yparxei kanena problhma. H eishghsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy prohghqhke ths syzhthshs ayths. Kai fysika as mhn jexname oti bghke pros ta ejw mia streblh, kata thn apoch moy, syntetagmenh apoch gia to ti egine se ayto to atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Emeis den fobomaste tipote. Kai ayto apodeiknyetai kai apo tis synedriaseis twn Ypoyrgikwn Symboyliwn poy sygkaloyntai apo thn kybernhsh toy PASOK se sygkrish malista me ayta poy eginan thn prohgoymenh ejaetia. Qa mporoyse na akoloyqoyme allo montelo kai na pairnei kaqe ypoyrgos tis dikes toy apofaseis. Emeis leitoyrgoyme syllogika, syntetagmena. Apo kei kai pera, oson anafora sthn KED, gnwrizoyme poly kala...\nKOYTRAS: Me sygxwreite k. Ekproswpe. Otan lete ``streblh syntetagmenh apoch'' ennoeite oti oloi oi dhmosiografoi ebgalan kati streblo; Bgalame kati to opoio den yphrxe;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta apo ola, eipwqhkan pragmata kai qewries, oi opoies ontws den yphrxan.\nPETALWTHS: Ayto qa to breite eseis. Einai dikh sas doyleia. Emeis anakoinwnoyme...\nBLAXOS: Oysiastika anoigete ena qema, oti kapoios mesa apo to atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio edwse sthn...\nPETALWTHS: Den anoigw tipota kai gnwrizete para poly kala ti ennow.\nBLAXOS: Ennoeite oti oi dhmosiografoi ekanan th streblh paroysiash h aytoi poy toys to eipan mesa apo...\nPETALWTHS: Den gnwrizw. Eseis, ean gnwrizete kapoioys poy toys to eipan apo mesa strebla eimai edw gia na to akoysw. Egw ayta poy diabasa, kai diabasa polla, den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. To na pairnoyme apospasmatika kapoies rhseis kapoiwn ypoyrgwn adikoyn thn oysia. Ayto poy ginetai, epanalambanw, einai ojygono gia thn politikh zwh. Einai ayto poy mesa apo dhmokratikes diadikasies orizei kai tis apofaseis kai to dynamismo twn apofasewn aytwn. Oson afora sto prwto erwthma sas, gnwrizoyme oloi oti h KED, me th xeiragwghsh apo thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias htan ayth poy meqodeyse kai jepoylhse sthn kyriolejia, xarise th dhmosia perioysia sth Monh Batopedioy, me toys koymparoys poy proistanto ths prohgoymenhs katastashs. Kai pragmatika ekei xreiazetai mia diaforetikh antimetwpish ths KED ws organismoy alla kai mia diaforetikh antimetwpish ths dhmosias perioysias.\nYparxei boylhsh na ginei h KED pragmatika enas organismos, o opoios qa ajiopoiei th dhmosia perioysia kai emeis badizoyme me gnwmona ayth th megalh proklhsh.\nMIXAHL: O k. Papakwnstantinoy kai oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi, sto plaisio twn programmatikwn kateyqynsewn poy anakoinwsan meta to telos toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, metajy allwn eipan oti h KED, h Etaireia Toyristikwn Akinhtwn kai ta Olympiaka Akinhta, qa sygxwneyqoyn se mia eniaia etaireia, se enan eniaio forea kai aytos o foreas qa einai o foreas o opoios qa ekproswpei sto ejhs ta akinhta toy Dhmosioy kai apo kei kai pera, qa apofasizetai ti qa ginei. Qelw na rwthsw, loipon, ean oi dyo ek twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn, o k. Geroylanos kai o k. Reppas, symfwnoyn me th sygxwneysh ayth.\nPETALWTHS: Ayta poy dhlwse o k. Papakwnstantinoy - prwta ap` ola, den htan monos toy sth synenteyjh Typoy, htan oloi oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi- fysika ekfrazoyn thn kybernhsh.\nBLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prosypografw osa eipate gia thn KED. Alla qelw na sas pw oti egw, ayta poy lete gia thn KED, opws ta lete shmera, ta eklambanw ws aixmh gia ton k. Papakwnstantinoy.\nBLAXOS: Giati ayta ola ta opoia eginan apo thn KED, olo ayto to diasthma, nomizw oti eginan dhmosia kai ara qa eprepe na ta jerei o k. Papakwnstantinoy prin paei sto atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai pei h ``amartwlh'' KED na syntonizei ayta.\nPETALWTHS: Oyte oi onomasies einai aytes poy kanoyn tis yphresies ``amartwles'', oyte fysika oi ypoyrgoi poy erxontai na diaxeiristoyn aytoys toys organismoys. Emeis eimaste se gnwsh. Ennoeitai oti o k. Papakwnstantinoy den exei eyqynes gia o,ti ekane h KED epi Neas Dhmokratias. Emeis ws kybernhsh exoyme eyqynes gia to ti kanoyme apo tote poy analabame thn ejoysia. Kai fysika, den yparxoyn koympia ta opoia patame gia na allajoyn toso eykola oi organismoi, oyte mas enoxloyn ta onomata. Mas enoxlei h leitoyrgia sygkekrimenwn organismwn kai fysika ayth th leitoyrgia emeis thn allazoyme kai me th filosofia poy mas diepei kai me th mh xeiragwghsh toys gia idia symferonta, opws ginotan sto parelqon, kai fysika me thn apo edw kai pera ejorqologistikh toys leitoyrgia poy gia emas, ayto einai to shmantiko.\nSIDERHS: Den exoyme oloi ton idio politiko kaqwsprepismo. Isws na eprepe na ginei o tsakwmos. To problhma einai, giati egine twra kai den egine ton Dekembrh. Sas exoyn jefygei ta pragmata k. Ekproswpe;\nPETALWTHS: Den egine kanenas tsakwmos.\nSIDERHS: Kai na egine, den egine ton Dekembrh. Sas exoyn jefygei ta pragmata;\nPETALWTHS: Ws pros ti;\nSIDERHS: Xronika. Oi kairoi einai para poly dyskoloi. Epeigoyn oi draseis poy prepei na ginoyn kai eseis efqase Ioynios gia na apofasisete ayta, enw qa eprepe na ta exete apofasisei mesa stoys dyo-treis prwtoys mhnes. Hsastan toso aproetoimastoi; Exete tetoia abelthria kybernhtikh;\nPETALWTHS: To poso eimaste proetoimasmenoi to deixnoyme, giati paleyoyme apo thn prwth hmera kai me ta nomoqethmata poy exoyme ferei kai me tis megales allages, poy parolo oti oi kairoi einai para poly dyskoloi kai oi synqhkes einai para poly dyskoles, emeis kanoyme metarryqmiseis, kanoyme diarqrwtikes allages sthn Politeia sthn oikonomia, sthn koinwnia.\nQa htan para poly eykolo gia mas na jepoylhsoyme organismoys, opws ginotan sto parelqon. Emeis, omws, milame gia mia systhmatikh kai meqodikh ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias, kati poy den ginetai apo th mia hmera sthn allh. Ayto poy eprepe na kanoyme kai poy hdh kanoyme olo ayto to diasthma, einai na katagracoyme, prwta ap` ola, th dhmosia perioysia. Otan diaxeirizomaste ena kratos kai den gnwrizoyme oyte ena mikro meros ths dhmosias perioysias, antilambanetai kapoios me th stoixeiwdh logikh poso dyskolh einai h diaxeirish ayths ths perioysias. Emeis hdh to jekinhsame ayto kai hdh proxwrame se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kai an ginontan ayta stoys dyo-treis prwtoys mhnes, tote qa erxosastan shmera eseis gia na mas milate gia proxeirothta - eseis, ennow h koinh gnwmh- kai gia jepoylhma. Emeis oyte energoyme me proxeirothta, oyte jepoylame. Prokeitai gia megalh dhmosia perioysia, thn opoia antimetwpizoyme me ton ofeilomeno sebasmo kai pantote sto plaisio ths nomimothtas.\nSIDERHS: Ayta poy apofasisate na poylhsete, den exei shmasia an qa jepoylhsete h qa idiwtikopoihsete, htan gnwsta, htan gnwstes epixeirhseis. Den xreiazotan kamia xartografhsh leptomereiakh toy Dhmosioy gia na apofasisete gi` aytes tis epixeirhseis poy htan pagkoinws gnwstes kai htan zhtoymeno h apokratikopoihsh toys. Den eipame gia to Organismo Apojhranshs ths Kwpaidas .\nPETALWTHS: Allo na einai dhmosiografika gnwsta kapoia pragmata kai na ta gnwrizoyme ws polites kai allo na ta diaxeirizomaste me thn eyqynh poy exoyn oi kybernhtikoi leitoyrgoi kai idiaitera oi politikoi poy ta diaxeirizontai, etsi wste na ajiopoihsoyn me ton kalytero tropo th dhmosia perioysia. Ayth einai h arxh mas kai me monadiko gnwmona to dhmosio symferon proxwrame kai se ayto ton tomea.\nBLABIANOS: Lete oti katagrafete th dhmosia perioysia. Qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: Toso poly allaje, sta eji xronia ths Neas Dhmokratias, h dhmosia perioysia; Prin, kybernhsh hsastan kai pali. Den eixe katagrafei h dhmosia perioysia;\nPETALWTHS: H dhmosia perioysia einai akatagrapth edw kai polles dekaeties.\nBLABIANOS: Ara, eyqynetai kai to PASOK gi` ayto.\nPETALWTHS: Aplws, h Nea Dhmokratia th xeiristhke kai th diaxeiristhke me ton pio aparadekto tropo kai kaqe allo para pros to dhmosio symferon. Kai ayto to gnwrizoyme oloi.\nMPEQANH: Diabazw oti ekane kybernhtikos ajiwmatoyxos dhlwseis sto Roiters xqes, me tis opoies leei oti h kybernhsh proxwrhse sthn proslhch xrhmatooikonomikoy symboyloy gia tis apokratikopoihseis. To epibebaiwnete;\nPETALWTHS: Oti proxwrhse h qa proxwrhsei, elege to Roiters;\nMPEQANH: Proxwrhse elege. Proxwra, proxwrhse, qa proxwrhsei, telos pantwn.\nPETALWTHS: Otan qa lhfqei h apofash, qa anakoinwqei. Kai na mh daimonopoioyme ta panta. Otan prokeitai gia dhmosia perioysia, otan prokeitai gia ena megalo zhthma nomimothtas kai diaxeirishs ths dhmosias perioysias, yparxei endexomeno na xreiazetai kai kapoios symboylos, o opoios einai poly ejeidikeymenos. Giati apodeixqhke oti parolo poy exoyme ena terastio dynamiko sto Dhmosio, mexri twra den leitoyrghse ayto pros ofelos toy dhmosioy symferontos.\nSEGKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prokeitai telika gia ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias h gia ekpoihsh, opws paradexontan akoma kai stelexh ths dikhs sas kybernhshs;\nPETALWTHS: Den eipe kaneis oti ekpoieitai dhmosia perioysia. Gi` ayto anefera oti bghkan strebla kapoia pragmata pros ta ejw. Ekeino poy qeloyme einai na leitoyrghsoyme prosektika kai gi` ayto akribws ginontai oles aytes oi diadikasies kai se ayto to xrono, giati exoyme eyqynh apenanti sth dhmosia perioysia. Kai den prokeitai gia jepoylhma, oyte gia ekpoihsh. Ayto, isws, qa htan to pio eykolo kai to pio boliko. Emeis, omws, doyleyoyme me orizontes dekaetias. Den mas endiaferei eispraktika na kerdisei aplws to ellhniko kratos apo thn ekpoihsh kapoias perioysias. Mas endiaferei h kalyterh ajiopoihsh. Na dwsoyme ena stigma poy qa leitoyrghsei epi dekaeties gia th dhmosia perioysia, opws den egine epi polles dekaeties mexri twra.\nKOYTRAS: Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean yparxei problhma diagkwnismoy (den akoygetai)...\nPETALWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos to anefere ayto sto atypo ypoyrgiko symboylio, oti dhladh to kratos einai etsi domhmeno wste kaqe ypoyrgos anti na asxoleitai epitelika kai na paragei politikh, anagkazetai ek twn pragmatwn -me th leitoyrgia toy kratoys etsi opws einai- na asxoleitai kai me alla kaqhkonta, me kaqhkonta poy prosidiazoyn se enan anwtero dhmosio ypallhlo. Ayto akribws einai poy dhmioyrgei ta problhmata sta ypoyrgeia kai einai ayto akribws poy den afhnei kai toys ypoyrgoys na leitoyrghsoyn ws qesmika proswpa opws qa eprepe na leitoyrgoyn. Eidika malista, opoy prokeitai gia synarmodiothta, opoy ta zhthmata einai akomh pio synqeta.\nSIDERHS: Eipate proxqes sth synadelfo Zafeiradoy, se sxesh me th daskala k. Xara Nikopoyloy, oti opoies pieseis akoygontai gi` aythn einai anypostates fhmes. Eiste boyleyths Qrakhs. Den exete maqei tipote; Den exete diabasei efhmerides, den exoyn fqasei sta aytia sas osa exei ypostei ayth h gynaika mesa sto kratos en kratei poy exoyn dhmioyrghsei oi egkaqetoi toy toyrkikoy Projeneioy;\nPETALWTHS: Prwton, h synadelfos sas, ka. Zafeiriadoy, rwthse gia th metaqesh ths sygkekrimenhs daskalas. Ep' aytoy yparxei sxetikh anakoinwsh toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias. Deyteron, anaferate oti eimai boyleyths Qrakhs kai afoy blepw oti asxoleiste me to zhthma sas apantw oti an asxoliosastan pio epistamena qa blepate kai dhlwseis poy ekana, kai malista kathgorhqhka gi` aytes, otan eixe teqei to qema sto opoio anafereste, ths symperiforas apenanti sthn k. Nikopoyloy. An cajete stoixeiwdws ligo parapanw, qa ta breite ayta.\nMIXAHL: Qelw na epanelqw sto qema twn apokratikopoihsewn. Kai na sas rwthsw kai ws ypoyrgo armodio gia ta kratika MME. Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na epitrecei kai thn eisagwgh idiwtwn sta dyo kratika MME, sto APE kai thn ERT, se meiochfiko pososto;\nPETALWTHS: Ti ennoeite;\nMIXAHL: Na poylhsete ena pososto ths ERT kai toy APE.\nPETALWTHS: Ayto, to exete ws plhroforia eseis, giati egw to akoyw gia prwth fora.\nMIXAHL: Oxi, rwtaw giati yparxei anhsyxia gia polloys, oti mporei na epektaqei kai se aytoys toys tomeis h eisodos (den akoygetai) kai kata synepeia, qelw na sas rwthsw ws armodio ypoyrgo ean exete tetoia skech h tetoia proqesh.\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, den eimai armodios ws pros thn ERT. Deyteron, ayth thn anhsyxia thn akoyw prwth fora.\nBLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh hmoyn sth Boylh kai akoysa ton k. Papandreoy na milaei, h kybernhsh sprwxnei, elafra pros to paron, thn karekla toy k. Probopoyloy;\nBLAXOS: Yparxei qema Probopoyloy;\nBLAXOS: Trizei h karekla h estw ena podi ths kareklas;\nPETALWTHS: H Trapeza ths Ellados exei th qesmikh leitoyrgia ths, th qesmikh aytoteleia ths. Yparxoyn sygkekrimenes diadikasies gia ton orismo kai th leitoyrgia toy dioikhth ths. Kai ayto, h kybernhsh to sebetai.\nBLAXOS: Ennow san proswpo, ton k. Probopoylo. Den milaw san qesmo. Milaw gia ton k. Probopoylo.\nPETALWTHS: O k. Probopoylos einai shmera dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados. Opws sas eipa, yparxoyn sygkekrimenes diadikasies me tis opoies orizetai kapoios ws dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados kai h leitoyrgia toy orizetai apo sygkekrimena shmeia toy nomoy poy orizoyn kai th leitoyrgia ths Trapezas ths Ellados. Einai mia aytonomh Arxh kai oi armodiothtes ths Politeias einai periorismenes ws pros ayto. Alla den yparxei qema Probopoyloy.\nBLABIANOS: Epeidh, an moy epitrepete, synagw apo thn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti afhnei anoixto to endexomeno na klhqei o k. Probopoylos apo thn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs gia to peribohto T13 twn omologwn. Mexri xqes, epishs an den kanw terastio laqos, o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn k. Papakwnstantinoy ensternizotan oles tis epejhghseis poy edine h Trapeza ths Ellados panw sto qema. Telikws, h kybernhsh exei kanei laqos, h Trapeza ths Ellados exei kanei laqos sthn epilogh ths, ti akribws exei symbei;\nPETALWTHS: Ws pros ayto, sto opoio apanthse shmera o Prwqypoyrgos: Qesh ths kybernhshs einai oti einai h diadikasia sthn opoia anafereste afora thn Trapeza ths Ellados. Se ayth th qesh hmastan kai se ayth th qesh emmenoyme.\nKOYTRAS: Eipate oti den yparxei qema Probopoyloy. Apolambanei ths empistosynhs ths kybernhshs o k. Probopoylos;\nPETALWTHS: Apanthsa prohgoymenws.\nKOYTRAS: Oxi, den apanthsate. Eipate oti...\nPETALWTHS: Apanthsa oti yparxoyn diadikasies me tis opoies orizetai o dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados, me tis opoies leitoyrgei o dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados kai menoyme ekei.\nBLAXOS: ``Periorismenes oi armodiothtes ths Politeias'', to eipate. Hsastan safestatos.\nPETALWTHS: Ypo thn ennoia oti h Trapeza ths Ellados den einai dhmosios foreas, den einai kratikos organismos...\nBLAXOS: An den htan periorismenes oi armodiothtes ths politeias, einai profanes, qa eixame allo skhniko. Ayto mas lete.\nPETALWTHS: Den sas lew tipote. Eseis ta sxoliazete ayta kai eseis ta krinete..\nMIXAHL: Den qa sas balw ston peirasmo na sxoliasete h na ektimhsete thn poreia twn ejetastikwn epitropwn. Exete pei kat epanalhch oti ayto afora tis idies kai tis leitoyrgies toys. Omws, qelw na moy kanete ena geniko politiko sxolio apo to gegonos oti para polla stelexh kai ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, alla kai allwn kommatwn, qewroyn oti osa ginontai stis ejetastikes epitropes, einai prospaqeies na mhn fanerwqei h alhqeia kai se kaqe periptwsh na sygkalyfqei h na apokalyfqei merikws, wste na stamathsoyn oi peraiterw ereynes kai oti bghke sto fws, bghke.\nPETALWTHS: Den gnwrizw poioi to sxoliazoyn h poioi exoyn ayth thn ektimhsh. Ayto poy mporw na sas pw egw einai oti oi ejetastikes epitropes, efoson yparxei h politikh boylhsh kai h boylhsh, genikotera, twn melwn poy tis apartizoyn mporei na exoyn tetoia apotelesmata, poy oyte kan h idia h Dikaiosynh qa mporoyse na exei kai malista me diaforetikoys ryqmoys.\nKOYTRAS: Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh exei kokkines grammes gia to Asfalistiko kai an epibebaiwnete ths fhmologia poy yparxei tis teleytaies hmeres, oti yparxei periptwsh na emplakei se diapragmateyseis kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos.\nPETALWTHS: H kybernhsh dra syntetagmena. Yparxoyn armodioi ypoyrgoi kai armodioi kratikoi leitoyrgoi, oi opoioi xeirizontai ta zhthmata me ta opoia einai epifortismenoi. Th qesh mas gia to Asfalistiko thn exoyme pei kai qa fanei fysika me thn kataqesh toy asfalistikoy nomosxedioy.\nBLAXOS: Epeidh eiste kai armodios, exete asxolhqei me to qema ayto : Prin merikes hmeres, prin dyo - treis hmeres, h Nea Dhmokratia, oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias aytoi poy metexoyn sthn ejetastikh epitroph gia to Batopedi allajan qesh, kai zhthsan na yparjei mia paratash ergasiwn, prokeimenoy na anoijoyn oi logariasmoi kai to metoxologio twn dwdeka off shore etairiwn poy exoyn anamixqei sto qema toy skandaloy ths Monhs Batopedioy kai kyriws ths ``RASATEL'', poy ftiaxthke gia ayto ton skopo. To PASOK den to edwse. Pisteyete oti mporei na bgei porisma kai na einai peistiko apenanti ston ellhniko lao, otan den exoyn anoijei oyte oi logariasmoi, oyte to metoxologio twn dwdeka off shore etairiwn poy exoyn anameixqei me to skandalo ths Monhs Batopedioy;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta apo ola, na dhlwsw pali oti sebomaste ws kybernhsh thn aytoteleia twn ejetastikwn epitropwn. Deyteron, oi ejetastikes epitropes den mporoyn na diereynhsoyn ta panta. Diereynoyn politikes eyqynes kai apo kei kai pera, dinoyn kai tis kateyqynseis. Den mporw na to krinw to sygkekrimeno. Gia na apofasisoyn ta melh ths ejetastikhs epitrophs oti den apaiteitai paratash mexri ton Septembrio safws qa eixan toys logoys toys. Apo kei kai pera, yparxei pedio na diereynhqoyn ta panta. Kai epanalambanw, efoson yparxei h politikh boylhsh mporei kai prepei na diereynhqei kaqe skia kai sthn ypoqesh ayth, h opoia oytws h allws exei talaipwrhqei poly kairo.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Friday, 4 June 2010 - 21:56:19 UTC


url: = Tis paraithseis Meimarakh kai twn melwn ths KEFE, zhthse o Ap. Tzitzikwstas\n Q. Fessas: H kybernhsh diaqetei thn politikh boylhsh gia na efarmosei tis metarryqmiseis\n Eyreia symfwnia epi ths efarmoghs twn proapaitoymenwn sto EWG\n Beltiwsh twn megeqwn ths oikonomias gia to 2016, problepei o proypologismos\n Dyo nees epiqeseis Palaistiniwn me maxairi, enantion Israhlinwn\n Polh fantasma kai shmera oi Bryjelles\n Apopeira aytoktonias sto APQ\n Dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy toy Baggelh Meimarakh sthn KEFE ths ND, Q. Ampatzogloy\n Eqniko dialogo gia ta megala anoixta qemata zhta o Alejhs Tsipras\nO Proedros ths Dhmokratias Prokophs Paylopoylos paristatai sthn ekdhlwsh, poy pragmatopoieitai ston xwro ths Gefyras Gorgopotamoy, gia ton Panellhnio eortasmo ths Enwmenhs Eqnikhs Antistashs.\nMeta thn epimnhmosynh Dehsh, akoloyqoyn xairetismoi apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, ton dhmarxo Lamiewn, ton perifereiarxh Stereas Elladas, ton ekproswpo ths kybernhshs,ton ekproswpo ths Boylhs, ton presbh ths Megalhs Bretanias, ton gg toy Panellhnioy Syndesmoy Agwnistwn Eqnikhs Antistashs EOEA EDES NAPOLEWN ZERBAS, ton proedro toy PanellhnioySyndesmoy Agwnistwn Eqnikhs EAMIKHS Antistashs.\nQa akoloyqhsei ekfwnhsh twn onomatwn twn Agwnistwn Eqnikhs Antistashs ston Gorgopotamo, twn onomatwn twn Ypataiwn poy ektelesthkan apo toys Italoys kai twn foneyqentwn apo thn ekrhjh narkhs ston Gorgopotamo.\nSth synexeia o k.Paylopoylos qa kataqesei stefani kai qa thrhqei enos leptoy sigh. Akoloyqws, o Proedros ths Dhmokratias qa metabei sto dhmarxeio Lamias opoy qa ginei teleth anakhryjhs toy se Epitimo Dhmoth Lamias.\nNa paraithqoyn o metabatikos proedros ths N.D. Baggelhs Meimarakhs, o proedros kai ola ta melh ths KEFE kai na synanthqoyn to apogeyma oi tesseris ypochfioi proedroi toy kommatos gia na syzhthsoyn pws mporoyn na ginoyn oi eswkommatikes ekloges, me bash osa problepei to katastatiko, zhthse o ypochfios proedros Apostolos Tzitzikwstas.\n``Ayta poy symbainoyn shmera einai adianohta. Prosballoyn ton kosmo ths paratajhs mas, apajiwnoyn th N.D. kai dinoyn alloqi ston SYRIZA'', dhlwse o k. Tzitzikwstas kai prosqese: ``Oles tis prohgoymenes penhnta meres edwsa enan terastio agwna gia na zhthsw apo toys neodhmokrates na erqoyn mazika, na gyrisoyme selida se ayth thn paratajh kai me th mazikothta toys na steiloyme ena isxyro mhnyma oti h N.D. einai ena megalo komma, thn wra poy orismenoi oxi mono dhlwnan apo thn arxh oti den pisteyan se ayth th diadikasia, alla ekanan oti mporoysan gia na thn apajiwsoyn. Prepei estw kai twra, thn ystath wra, na analaboyn kapoioi tis eyqynes toys. O metabatikos proedros ths N.D., o k. Meimarakhs, o opoios eixe analabei th diejagwgh ths diadikasias ayths kai na odhghsei th N.D. sthn eklogh toy neoy arxhgoy, ofeilei na paraithqei kai na oristei enas neos metabatikos proedros poy qa oloklhrwsei th diadikasia symfwna me ta katastatiko. Epishs, zhtw thn paraithsh toy proedroy kai olwn twn melwn ths KEFE. Kai, telos, zhtw shmera stis 7 h wra to apogeyma sta grafeia ths N.D sth Syggroy, synanthsh twn tessarwn ypochfiwn gia na kaqorisoyme tis leptomereies gia ta epomena bhmata kai na steiloyme ena jekaqaro mhnyma enothtas. Lypamai poly gia toys neodhmokrates oi opoio sthqhkan apo to prwi shmera stis oyres. qelw pragmatika na toys eyxaristhsw. Na gnwrizoyn kapoioi oti h allagh poy qa erxotan shmera, an ginotan ayth h eklogikh diadikasia, h megalh allagh sth N.D, qa erqei kai qa einai pio hxhrh thn epomenh ebdomada''.\nSe erwthsh gia thn protash toy k. Mhtsotakh na analabei h k. Gannakoy metabatikh proedros apanthse oti ola ayta qa ta syzhthsoyn shmera to apogeyma oi tesseris ypochfioi.\nSe o,ti afora tis ekloges tonise pws aytes den prepei na ginoyn apo mhdenikh bash, alla na oloklhrwqoyn opws problepei to katastatiko.\nO k.Tzitzikwstas eftase stis 11.45 sto eklogiko kentro ths N.D. kai ton perimenan yposthriktes toy oi opoioi toy epifylajan qermh ypodoxh me xeirokrothmata kai fwnazontas to onoma toy.\nMhnyma politikoy periexomenoy me aformh tis teleytaies ejelijeis apeyqynei o proedros toy SEB Qeodwros Fessas tonizontas oti ``h prosfata eklegmenh kybernhsh diaqetei thn politikh boylhsh, thn koinwnikh kai antipoliteytikh anoxh gia na efarmosei tis krisimes metarryqmiseis, poy einai aparaithtes gia thn oristikh apomakrynsh apo th ``zwnh kindynoy'' ths xwras kai thn apokatastash ths oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs staqerothtas''.\nMilwntas thn Paraskeyh sth synanthsh koryfhs twn proedrwn twn biomhxanikwn kai ergodotikwn syndesmwn ths Eyrwphs, poy pragmatopoihqhke sto plaisio ths BUSINESSEUROPE, sto Loyjemboyrgo o k. Fessas kalese,epishs,toys eyrwpaioys epixeirhmaties na analaboyn "mazikes ependytikes prwtoboylies sthn Ellada kai epixeirhmatikes synergasies poy mporoyn na exoyn amoibaio ofelos".\nEpipleon, o k. Fessas paroysiase sthn eyrwpaikh epixeirhmatikh koinothta tis prooptikes ths oikonomias tonizontas oti xarh stis qysies twn teleytaiwn etwn h Ellada brisketai poly konta sthn epiteyjh ths anagkaias makrooikonomikhs isorropias se oroys dhmosionomikoys, xrhmatopistwtikoys, asfalistikoy kai dhmosioy xreoys.\nO k. Fessas anedeije idiaitera thn epityxh diadikasia ths anakefalaiopoihshs toy trapezikoy systhmatos me th symmetoxh idiwtwn poy koryfwnetai ayth thn periodo, h opoia, se syndyasmo me thn apotelesmatikh diaxeirish twn "kokkinwn" daneiwn -opws anefere- qa anadiatajoyn to epixeirhmatiko topio sth xwra mas. Epipleon, tonise oti o epikeimenos ejorqologismos toy asfalistikoy systhmatos me skopo na katastei makroproqesma biwsimo, qa symbalei kaqoristika sth makrooikonomikh ejisorrophsh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, fernontas pio konta thn anadiarqrwsh toy ellhnikoy xreoys poy qa akoloyqhsei.\n``H oloklhrwsh aytoy toy enaretoy kykloy makrooikonomikhs staqerothtas qa ferei mazi ths ependyseis kai anaptyjh kai gi' ayto den prepei na yponomeyqei apo astoxies ths kybernhtikhs politikhs'', epishmane o k. Fessas. Sto shmeio ayto, eqije to zhthma ths yperforologhshs sthn ellhnikh paragwgh kai epixeirhmatikothta, anaferontas xarakthristika thn anagkh na apofeyxqei h nea ayjhsh toy mh misqologikoy kostoys kai h epibolh prosqetwn forwn sthn paragwgh. ``H Ellada gia na apofygei ton faylo kyklo mias stasimo-abebaiothtas exei anagkh apo ena ependytiko sok, poy mporei na proelqei mono apo tis mazikes ameses jenes ependyseis kai apo eyreias klimakas apokratikopoihseis, me skopo th dhmioyrgia mas sygxronhs paragwgikhs bashs kai ypodomwn'', tonise se allo shmeio ths parembashs toy o k. Fessas. Kalese malista toys epixeirhmatikoys syndesmoys ths Eyrwphs na tolmhsoyn ependytikes prwtoboylies sth xwra mas kai na symmetexoyn se epixeirhmatikes synergasies poy qa apodwsoyn amoibaia.\nTelos, o k. Fessas den pareleice na anaferqei sta prosfata dramatika gegonota sto Parisi, dhlwnontas ek meroys ths ellhnikhs epixeirhmatikothtas th baqia allhleggyh kai yposthrijh pros th gallikh epixeirhmatikh koinothta kai thn eyryterh eyrwpaikh oikogeneia.\n"Eyreia symfwnia" epi ths efarmoghs twn proapaitoymenwn epiteyxqhke sto plaisio toy EuroWorking Group symfwna me phges ths eyrwzwnhs.\nOi idies phges bebaiwnan oti ws to apogeyma ths Kyriakhs qa exoyn dieykrinistei kai kapoies leptomereies poy apemeinan.\nH "ekqesh symmorfwshs" twn qesmwn, h opoia symfwna me tis armodies phges htan qetikh, oloklhrwqhke nwris to apogeyma kai paroysiasthke stoys ekproswpoys twn ypoyrgeiwn Oikonomikwn ths eyrwzwnhs kata th diarkeia ths synedriashs.\nSth synexeia, anamenetai na egkriqei kai typika h ektamieysh ths doshs twn 2 dis. kai ths metaforas twn anagkaiwn, gia thn anakefalopoihsh twn trapezwn, kefalaiwn sto ellhniko Tameio Xrhmatopistwtikhs Staqerothtas apo to Dioikhtiko Symboylio toy Eyrwpaikoy Mhxanismoy Staqerothtas.\nParembaseis kai metra ycoys 5,733 dis. eyrw gia th meiwsh twn dapanwn kai thn ayjhsh twn esodwn perilambanei o proypologismos toy 2016. Prokeitai gia metra poy hdh exoyn lhfqei h alla poy problepetai na ylopoihqoyn to epomeno etos kai perilambanontai sth symfwnia oikonomikhs politikhs ths kybernhshs me toys daneistes, prokeimenoy na epiteyxqei prwtogenes pleonasma ycoys 0,53% toy AEP to 2016 apo prwtogenes elleimma 0,20% toy AEP efetos.\nO proypologismos, metajy allwn, problepei thn anaqewrhsh ths forologias eisodhmatos parallhla me thn epanejetash twn foroapallagwn, th metarryqmish ths koinwnikhs asfalishs ( ews to telos toy etoys), kaqws kai th metarryqmish toy yfistamenoy misqologioy sto dhmosio me dhmosionomika oydetero tropo, opoy qa aposyndeetai o baqmos apo to misqologiko klimakio toy ypallhloy.\nTi qa problepei to neo misqologio\nGia to neo misqologio sto dhmosio anaferetai sygkekrimena oti qa exei ws stoxo th syndesh ths misqologikhs katanomhs me tis dejiothtes, tis epidoseis, ta kaqhkonta kai th qesh toy proswpikoy. Sto neo systhma amoibwn, opws shmeiwnetai, qa problepetai h aposyndesh toy baqmoy apo to misqologiko klimakio toy ypallhloy. H misqologikh katatajh twn ypallhlwn qa pragmatopoieitai analoga me thn kathgoria ekpaideyshs toy kai h entajh toys sta misqologika klimakia qa kaqorizetai analoga me ton xrono yphresias kai ta typika toys prosonta h thn katoxh qeshs eyqynhs. ``Prokeimenoy na epiteyxqei megalyterh aposympiesh se olo to misqologiko fasma, h misqologikh ejelijh synteleitai me diaforetiko tropo stis yparxoyses kathgories twn ypallhlwn, enisxyontai ta epidomata qeshs eyqynhs, alla kai h diasyndesh enos meroys twn apodoxwn toy ypallhloy me thn perigrafh twn kaqhkontwn kaqe qeshs ergasias'', shmeiwnetai sthn eishghtikh ekqesh toy proypologismoy.\nDyo Palaistinioi skotwqhkan shmera apo ton israhlino strato afoy prospaqhsan, se dyo memonwmena peristatika, na epiteqoyn enantion Israhlinwn sthn katexomenh Dytikh Oxqh.Sto prwto peristatiko mia Palaistinia poy prospaqhse na maxairwsei enan Israhlino sth Dytikh Oxqh skotwqhke, symfwna me ton israhlino strato kai palaistiniakes phges twn yphresiwn asfaleias.\nTo symban shmeiwqhke se mia diastayrwsh sth notia Namploys, opws anaferei o israhlinos stratos se anakoinwsh toy, prosqetontas oti ``oi dynameis kai enas perastikos apanthsan sthn amesh apeilh anoigontas pyr enantion ths drastrias''.Epishs sth Dytikh Oxqh enas Palaistinios poy odhgoyse ena taji prospaqhse na rijei to oxhma toy panw se pezoys kai sth synexeia bghke apo ayto gia na toys epiteqei me ena maxairi.\nBryjelles polh fantasma. Me to epipedo toy synagermoy na brisketai sto ycisto epipedo, me toys staqmoys toy Metro kleistoys, tis sygkoinwnies na ypoleitoyrgoyn, ta Moyseia, ta qeatra, toys kinhmatografoys kai ta perissotera estiatoria na exoyn kleistes tis portes toys, h prwteyoysa toy Belgioy dinei kai shmera thn eikona mias erhmhs polhs. Symfwna me ta belgika mesa enhmerwshs h astynomia exei ejapolysei anqrwpokynhghto me stoxo ton entopismo toylaxiston dyo proswpwn ek twn opoiwn to ena feretai na einai zwsmeno me ekrhktika. Dhmosieymata kanoyn logo gia polyplhqesterh omada atomwn poy proetoimazan tromokratikh epiqesh stis Bryjelles analogh me ayth poy egine stis 13 Noembrioy sto Parisi.\nTo symboylio eqnikhs asfaleias toy Belgioy anamenetai na synedriasei shmera to apogeyma me antikeimeno thn paratash h mh twn metrwn asfaleias poy yioqethse xqes. Se kaqe oikodomiko tetragwno toy kentroy twn Bryjellwn yparxoyn koines peripolies andrwn ths astynomias kai toy stratoy. Oi ypallhloi twn qesmikwn organwn ths EE elaban sta kinhta thlefwna toys mhnymata apo tis koinotikes yphresies asfaleias poy aforoysan ta metra epagrypnhshs twn prosexwn hmerwn.\nH oikonomikh zwh sto kentro ths polhs exei adranhsei entelws kai oloi anarwtioyntai ti qa symbei ayrio Deytera. To endexomeno paratashs twn metrwn, prwtistws de to kleisimo twn staqmwn toy Metro anhsyxei oloys toys epixeirhmaties toy kentroy me ejairesh toys tajitzhdes poy ayto to Sabbatokyriako einai dyseyretoi sthn perioxh twn Bryjellwn.\nKata th diarkeia toy 24wroy apo tis 6 to prwi toy Sabbatoy ews tis 6 to prwi ths Kyriakhs, ta synora diesxisan me kateyqynsh ta Skopia peripoy 6.000 atoma, dhladh peripoy 250 atoma thn wra.\nSobara traymatismenos exei metaferqei sto nosokomeio Papagewrgioy enas 46xronos, o opoios peripoy stis 10:45 shmera to prwi, phdhje apo th skalwsia mprosta sth gewponikh sxolh toy Aristoteleioy Panepisthmioy Qessalonikhs, opoy eixe anebei miamish wra nwritera.\nSto shmeio eixan speysei dynameis ths astynomias kai ths pyrosbestikhs, oi opoies eixan eidopoihqei apo ypallhlo ths etaireias poy fylassei to panepisthmio kai synodeyontoysan apo diapragmateytes cyxologoys.H prwth yphresiakh ektimhsh einai oti o 46xronos andras briskotan se sygxysh.\n``O kaqenas mporei twra na qelei na kanei spekoyla panw sto problhma to opoio exei dhmioyrghqei. O kaqenas exei tis dikes toy politikes skopimothtes'', dhlwse o ekproswpos toy Baggelh Meimarakh sthn KEFE,Q. Ampatzogloy shmeiwnontas oti den qa sxoliasei zhthmata,ta opoia qa sxoliasoyn oi politikoi.Anefere oti ta epomena bhmata einai to komma syntetagmena me bash to katastatiko na paei sthn epomenh hmera. Syntetagmena dieykrinise, shmainei, oti qa synedriasoyn ta organa kai qa paroyn tis apofaseis.\n``Einai politikes apofaseis tis opoies emeis den mporoyme na sxoliasoyme, qa tis doyme mesa stis epomenes hmeres, aytes einai politikes prwtoboylies poy prepei na lhfqoyn'', symplhrwse kai ekane ekklhsh gia cyxraimia.\nO k. Ampatzogloy prosqese oti eyqynes exoyn osoi eixan rolo se ayth th diadikasia kai ypenqymise oti o k. Meimarakhs apo thn wra poy khryxthkan oi ekloges den asxolhqhke pote me kanena organwtiko zhthma giati den eixe tetoia armodiothta basei katastatikoy. ``Eyqynes yparxoyn se ola ta melh ths KEFE kai aytes qa tis doyme. Na jekaqarisw allh mia fora oti o proedros toy kommatos den exei kamia sxesh me osa synebhsan sthn KEFE'', prosqese.\nEqniko dialogo sta megala anoixta eqnika qemata alla kai sta kaqoristikhs shmasias gia th diasfalish ths koinwnikhs synoxhs zhthmata qa dromologhsei h kybernhsh apokalyptei o prwqypoyrgos Alejhs Tsipras se synenteyjh toy sto ``Eqnos ths Kyriakhs''.\nO prwqypoyrgos anaferei oti protiqetai na kalesei se eqniko dialogo oles tis politikes dynameis kai toys koinwnikoys foreis toy topoy kai prosqetei oti oi rizikes metarryqmiseis apaitoyn eyryteres synaineseis kai ``qelw na pisteyw'', shmeiwse, ``oti oi perissoteres politikes dynameis einai wrimes gia mia tetoia syzhthsh''. ``Fysika'' shmeiwse, o k. Tsipras ``o dromos ths kataggelias kai ths adiejodhs politikhs dhmagwgias paramenei panta eykolos, alla aytes oi metarryqmiseis einai wrimes kai anagkaies, h koinwnia to katalabainei kai h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na proxwrhsei''.\nO k. Tsipras anaferqhke xarakthristika sthn paideia legontas oti ``prepei na proxwrhsoyme se mia dhmokratikh rizospastikh metarryqmish se oles tis baqmides''. Epishs, tonise thn anagkh synergasias kai sto qema ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs shmeiwnontas oti ``einai epiteloys h wra na pame se mia eyreia kai synolikh metarryqmish poy qa exei monimo xarakthra kai den qa stoxeyei sthn ejyphrethsh mikropolitikwn symferontwn , alla sthn enisxysh kai dieyrynsh twn dhmokratikwn qesmwn''.\nApantwntas se erwthsh gia tis tromokratikes epiqeseis sto Parisi kai to prosfygiko, o prwqypoyrgos Alejhs Tsipras shmeiwnei oti h Ellada einai mia xwra asfalhs kai para thn krish, mia xwra poy anadeiknyei to anqrwpino proswpo ths Eyrwphs. Prosqetei oti ``mia apotelesmatikh diaxeirish toy prosfygikoy proypoqetei thn epanegkatastash prosfygwn apo thn Toyrkia kateyqeian stis eyrwpaikes xwres. Etsi, shmeiwnei o k. Tsipras periorizontai drastika ta kyklwmata diakinhshs anqrwpwn kai ta polynekra nayagia kai gi ayto prepei amesa na yparjei symfwnia ths EE me thn Toyrkia.\nSe erwthsh gia thn kybernhsh o k.Tsipras tonizei oti ``h koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia einai politika staqerh, giati exei jekaqaro ``odiko xarth''. Jerei poly kala poy qelei na paei kai jerei tis dyskolies poy exei na antimetwpisei''\nApantwntas se erwthsh gia thn paraithsh toy Gabrihl Sakellaridh o k. Tsipras eipe oti : ``sebomai thn apofash toy Gabrihl , alla den thn katanow. Apo thn allh ofeilw na toy pistwsw to gegonos oti paredwse thn edra. Prospaqw na qymhqw poia htan h teleytaia fora poy boyleyths poy diafwnhse me to komma toy kai paredwse thn edra kai den mporw. Ayth einai h monh hqikh stash , idiws otan h eklogh htan me lista kai h symfwnia gnwsth''.\nana2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 22 November 2015 - 11:32:19 UTC


url: =Athens News Agency: News in Greek, 05-11-20\n Katatiqetai ayrio o neos proypologismos.\n O Papandreoy ypochfios proedros S.D.\n Dhmas gia thn prostasia periballontos\nKatatiqetai ayrio sth Boylh o proypologismos toy 2006. Nwritera qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, prokeimenoy na dwsei thn telikh egkrish toy.\nBasikos stoxos toy neoy proypologismoy einai h meiwsh twn elleimmatwn katw apo to 3% toy AEP apo 4,3% poy anamenetai na diamorfwqei fetos. Sto neo proypologismo problepontai esoda kata 7,9% kai sygkrathsh twn dapanwn sto 4,8%. Gia thn eisodhmatikh politikh problepetai oti to synoliko kondyli qa einai ayjhmeno gyrw sto 5%.\nXqes o prwqypoyrgos apo ta Grebena aphyqyne prosklhsh systrateyshs gia mia symmaxia mhdenikhs anoxhs sth diafqora, enw ypogrammise gia mia akomh fora, thn apofasistikothta ths kybernhshs, na proxwrhsei stis allages kai stis metarryqmiseis.\nO k. Karamanlhs kathgorhse to PASOK gia kindynologia katastrofologia kai aneyqynothta. Ypenqymise oti oi politikes twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK apetyxan kai parathrhse: "Einai toylaxiston aneyqyno na epistrateyontai praktikes kaqolikhs arnhshs kai mhdenismoy. Einai ypokritiko na paristanoyn toys aneyqynoys ekeinoi poy eyqynontai gia th dhmioyrgia twn pio megalwn oikonomikwn kai koinwnikwn problhmatwn sth xwra mas".\n"O k. Karamanlhs anazhta katafygio sto parelqon, poy ws gnwston, toy ftaiei gia ola", sxoliase o ekproswpos Typoy toy PASOK N.Aqanasakhs.\n``To ergo ths kybernhshs einai yparkto kai paragei hdh qetika kai apta apotelesmata, apanthse apo thn pleyra toy, o kybernhtikos ekproswpos Q.Roysopoylos.\nH Sosialistikh Dieqnhs anakoinwse shmera sto Londino oti, o Proedros toy PASOK, Giwrgos A. Papandreoy, qa einai o monadikos ypochfios gia th qesh toy Proedroy ths, symfwna me thn protash ths armodias Epitrophs.\nH Sosialistikh Dieqnhs, pagkosmia organwsh twn sosialdhmokratikwn , sosialistikwn kai ergatikwn kommatwn , qa eklejei ton neo ths Proedro sthn prosexh synedriash toy Symboylioy ths, poy qa pragmatopoihqei sthn Aqhna stis 30-31 Ianoyarioy 2006.\nH eklogh toy Proedroy ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys apotelei thn oloklhrwsh mias diadikasias poy jekinhse ton perasmeno Ioynio. To Proedreio ths organwshs, aneqese se mia Epitroph, me melh hgetes kommatwn apo oles tis perioxes toy kosmoy poy symmetexoyn sth SD , to kaqhkon na syllejei kai na ajiologhsei tis ypochfiothtes gia to ajiwma ayto . H Epitroph , me Proedro ton Antiproedro ths Organwshs, Xose Loyis Rontrigkez Qapatero , katelhje sto onoma toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy , hgeth toy PASOK, ws ypochfioy gia thn Proedria ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys. H eklogikh diadikasia qa oloklhrwqei sthn Aqhna me symmetoxh olwn twn kommatwn melwn ths organwshs .\nSth dihmerh synedriash toy Symboylioy, poy qa ginei ypo thn aigida toy PASOK sthn Aqhna, qa symmetasxoyn hgetes kai ekproswpoi apo kommata melh ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys apo oles tis hpeiroys, kai qa syzhthsoyn trexonta krisima zhthmata ths epikairothtas.\nH Sosialistikh Dieqnhs, poy istorika syndeetai me tis prwtes dieqneis organwseis toy ergatikoy kinhmatos, leitoyrgei me th twrinh ths morfh apo to 1951, kai symperilambanei 161 politika kommata kai organwseis apo oles tis perioxes toy kosmoy - 31 apo thn Afrikh, 38 apo thn amerikanikh hpeiro, 20 apo thn Asia kai ton Eirhniko, 30 apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai 29 apo alla shmeia ths Eyrwphs, kaqws kai 3 syndedemenes kai 10 synergazomenes organwseis.\nOi draseis ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys se pagkosmia klimaka epikentrwnontai shmera sthn prowqhsh kai enisxysh twn dhmokratikwn qesmwn, thn yposthrijh ths eirhnikhs epilyshs twn sygkroysewn, thn epiteyjh mias dhmokratikhs kai dikaihs pagkosmias diakybernhshs, thn ejasfalish toy sebasmoy twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn, thn yposthrijh ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs kai ths isothtas twn dyo fylwn kai thn prowqhsh ths aeiforoy anaptyjhs. Sto epikentro toy ergoy ths S.D. einai h oikodomhsh eyrewn synainesewn kai h anaptyjh mias koinhs platformas drashs sxetika me dieqnh kai perifereiaka qemata poy apasxoloyn ta sosialdhmokratika kinhmata. Metajy allwn, ayto epitygxanetai me th drasthriopoihsh diaforwn gewgrafikwn kai qematikwn epitropwn kaqws kai eidikwn omadwn ergasias, thn organwsh synedriwn kai synanthsewn me sygkekrimenh atzenta , kaqws kai thn apostolh eidikwn antiproswpeiwn me skopo thn prowqhsh politikwn kai stoxwn ths S.D.\nAyth th stigmh 56 kommata melh ths Dieqnoys briskontai sthn kybernhsh se diafora merh toy kosmoy, enw se polles xwres ,kommata melh ths SD apoteloyn th basikh enallaktikh lysh stis yparxoyses kybernhseis .?\nMe thn eykairia symplhrwshs enos xronoy apo thn hmera poy anelabe thn eyqynh toy tomea ths prostasias toy Periballontos sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, o Ellhnas Epitropos Stayros Dhmas, se synanthsh me dhmosiografoys stis Bryjelles, milhse gia to ergo ths Epitrophs kai gia thn proodo poy exei shmeiwqei, kata thn periodo ayth, gia thn prostasia toy periballontos.\n``Kyria merimna moy einai na diathrhsoyme ta periballontika qemata, chla sthn ``atzenta'' ths eyrwpaikhs epikairothtas'', anefere xarakthristika o Stayros Dhmas o opoios kanontas mia syntomh apotimhsh toy ergoy ths Epitrophs sta qemata toy periballontos, gia to xrono poy perase, epishmane ta ejhs:\nSxetika me ton kanonismo REACH gia tis xhmikes oysies kai thn epikindynothta toys gia th dhmosia ygeia, o Stayros Dhmas ejefrase thn ikanopoihsh toy gia thn prosfath yioqethsh ths protashs ths Epitrophs apo to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio, ektimwntas oti h ejelijh ayth apotelei shmantiko bhma pros thn epiteyjh politikhs symfwnias sto Symboylio, mexri to telos toy xronoy. To REACH, opws ypenqymise o S. Dhmas, afora thn kataxwrhsh, thn ajiologhsh kai thn adeiodothsh twn xhmikwn oysiwn. Problepei, metajy allwn, thn katartish enos sygkentrwtikoy katalogoy twn dekadwn xiliadwn xhmikwn oysiwn poy xrhsimopoioyntai apo tis biomhxanies kai toys kataskeyastes, kaqws kai twn idiothtwn toys. Parallhla, shmeiwnei o Ellhnas Epitropos, qa enqarrynei, sto metro toy dynatoy, th xrhsh twn pleon ablabwn oysiwn, h twn ligotero epiblabwn ypokatastatwn aytwn poy krinontai problhmatikes. Opws epishmane o S. Dhmas, einai gnwstes oi idiothtes mono toy 20% twn xhmikwn poy xrhsimopoioyntai shmera sth biomhxania.\n``Yphrjan antidraseis apo tis biomhxanies'', epishmane o S. Dhmas, shmeiwnontas oti ayto einai logiko afoy to REACH qa tis epibarynei me kapoio epiprosqeto kostos. Wstoso, synexise, to shmantiko einai oti stadiaka kaqe paraskeyasths h eisagwgeas oxi mono qa einai ypoxrewmenos na ajiologei kai na kataxwrei ta proionta poy poyla kai emporeyetai, alla qa prepei na proeidopoiei kai toys katanalwtes sxetika me toys piqanoys kindynoys poy exoyn gia thn anqrwpinh ygeia.\nEjalloy, o S. Dhmas, anaferomenos sto ergo ths Epitrophs gia thn katapolemhsh twn klimatologikwn allagwn, ypenqymise oti h EE exei desmeyqei me to prwtokollo toy Kyoto, na meiwsei toys biomhxanikoys rypoys kata 8%, mexri to 2012. O Ellhnas Epitropos epishmane pws h Epitroph exei analabei draseis gia th meiwsh twn rypwn poy proerxontai, apo tis aeroporikes metafores, apo tis biomhxanies energeias kai apo alles biomhxanikes egkatastaseis, oi opoies, opws shmeiwse, polles fores den leitoyrgoyn kata tropo symbato pros toys oroys poy exoyn teqei apo thn eyrwpaikh nomoqesia peri biomhxanikwn rypwn.\nSe o,ti afora thn Ellada o S. Dhmas ypogrammise ton idiaitero rolo poy mporei na diadramatisei sta Balkania se zhthmata poy aforoyn thn prostasia toy periballontos. Parallhla se sxesh me thn antapokrish ths Elladas stis desmeyseis poy synepagetai to prwtokollo toy Kyoto shmeiwse pws qa htan xrhsimo na arxisoyn stadiaka oi pleon rypogones ellhnikes biomhxanies na ependyoyn se metra meiwshs ths rypanshs, estw kai an braxyproqesma ayto den fainetai ypoxrewtiko kai anagkaio.\nO S. Dhmas anaferqhke, akomh, se mia seira apo alla periballontika qemata, gia ta opoia h Epitroph ton teleytaio xrono exei analabei sygkekrimenes draseis, opws p.x. h strathgikh gia ton periorismo ths atmosfairikhs rypanshs, h strathgikh gia thn poiothta toy edafoys, twn ydatwn kai twn qalasswn kai h strathgikh gia ta apoblhta kai thn diathrhsh twn oikosysthmatwn.\nTelos, sth sxetikh anakoinwsh poy ejedwse to grafeio toy Ellhna Epitropoy, anaferetai oti h Epitroph proteinei, gia thn periodo 2007-2013, ayjhsh kata 90% ths xrhmatodothshs gia periballontikh ereyna, poso poy antistoixei peripoy se 2,5 dis. eyrw. Akomh, 520 ekat. eyrw, proorizontai gia epidothsh ``oikologikwn'' kainotomiwn, sto plaisio toy eyrwpaikoy sxedioy drashs gia tis periballontikes texnologies.\nana2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 20 November 2005 - 21:31:22 UTC


url: =Διατροφη και γράμμωση\nΘέμα: Διατροφη και γράμμωση\nΕμφάνιση αποτελεσμάτων : 1 έως 15 από 24\n13-05-05 22:28 #1\nEimai 31 etwn kai sxetika neos ston xwro tou bodybuilding.\n8a i8ela tin polytimi symvouli sas sto 8ema tis diatrofis.\nEimai stin fasi pou epidiwkw tin grammwsi.\n8a i8ela na mou dwsei kapoios ta fwta tou kai na mou proteinei ena programma diatrofis kai symplirwmatwn pou na douleuei giati me exoun\nmperdepsei me auta pou mou lene..\nSas eyxaristw poly ek twn protairwn,\n14-05-05 00:16 #2\nRe: DIATROFI KAI GRAMMWSH\nI diatrofi gia grammosi einai poly pio polyploki ypothesi apo oti fainetai arxika. Katarxas apo thema sympliromaton efoson eisai sxetika neos sto xoro enas aplos lipodialytis tha douleve poli kala, h kai mia karnitini. Fysika sympliroma proteinis einai MUST!\nSto thema tis diatrofis to mono pou mporo na sou po ayti ti stigmi einai na kaneis polla geymata (kathe 2-3 ores), isoropoimena se proteini kai ydatantrakes (sinthetous opos ryzi kai patata alla kai inodeis opos laxanika). Symvoules tou tipou apefyge ta glyka kai ta almyra einai aytotoites.\nProspathise to lipos pou tha vazeis sti diatrofi sou na min einai zoiko, alla fytiko, kai an dynaton mporeis na xrisimopoiiseis simpliroma liparon oxeon (omega 3) ta opoia periexontai kai se psaria opos solomos tha itan poli kalo.\nAnalitikes odigies gia programmata diatrofis tha mpoun sto site kapoia stimgi otan vrethei xronos. pros to paron george an exeis kapoies sygekrimenes apories meta xaras na voithiso, alla to olokliromeno programma den einai toso aplo, prpei na laveis polla pragmata ypopsin sou kai einai arketa atomikeymeno analoga me tis anages tou atomou.\nElpizo na pires mia "geysi"...\n14-05-05 14:22 #3\nSe eyxaristw poly gia tin amesi apantisi & tis symvoules!\n8a i8ela na ginw ligo pio sygkekrimenos gia na me voi8iseis ligo akoma!\nExw agorasei kai idi xrisimopoiw kapoia symplirwmata kai eimai ypo skepsi gia kapoia alla.\nAf'enos 8a i8ela an mporeis na mou peis poio diatrofiko profil einai to kalytero dynato gia grammwsi: Alloi mou lene to 40% Prwteini-30% Lipos-30% Ydatan8raka enw alloi na periorisw poly to lipos se sxesi me tous ydatan8rakes!\nPoio douleuei kalytera kata tin gnwmi sou h kapou endiamesa einai i ali8eia?\nApo symplirwmata xrisimopoiw:\nWhey protein: MethoxyPro (Cytodyne)\nCreatine: CellTech (Muscletech)\nVitamini C 1000mg\nAminoksea: American Amino 2000 (American Sport Nutrition)\nLipotropiko: Thermogain (MuscleTech)\nNa parw kai karnitini? CLA?\nTo CellTech na to stamatisw? mipws empodizei tin grammwsi?\nPolles erwtiseis etsi??\nSe eyxaristw poly, estw kai se kapoia apo autes na mou apantiseis 8a me voi8isei poly!\n16-05-05 23:14 #4\nSxetika me to diatrofiko profil einai kata ena poly megalo meros thema atomiko. Me liga logia dokimazeis kai vlepeis pos antapokrinetai to soma sou. An kai 30% lipos tha mporouse na xrisimopoithei se grammosi efoson proerxetai apo lipara oxea (omega 3 kai 6) kai katholou zoiko. Prosopika eimai tis apopsis oti to lipos prpei na eina xamilotera kai genika polles prosegmenes dietes to exoun gyro sto 15-20% olo apo EFA (essential fatty acids). Ego sinithios proteino ayta ta pososta.\nta sympliromata den moufainontai asxima efoson ta kaneis sosti xrisi. Sxetika me to celltech, i alitheia einai oti tha sou kratisei nera, parola ayta den einai apagoreytiko se mia grammosi efoson ginetai xrisi mono meta tin proponisi kai i posotits tis dextrozis den xeperna ta 20gr kai kreatini ta 5 gr (exartatai kai apo somatiko varos). nomizo sto celltech einai 1 scoop, den eimai sigouros.\nToso i karnitini kai to CLA tha voithousan ti grammosi. Den gnorizo akrivos to soma sou kai tous stoxous sou kai den mporo na sou po an axizei na ta xrisimopoiseis i oxi. Min perimeneis na sou kanaoun ti megali diafora, idi exeis lipodialiti.\n19-09-05 14:19 #5\nKatarxin geia se olous einai to proto mou post\nFile giorgio ama kaneis 4 week me sththos kotopoulo kai rizi tha eisai kommatia alla meta den tha exeis thn dinamh na kounitheis!!\nxekinas me 800gr thn hmera sththos kotopoulo kai 300rizi 1week(to xorizeis se 5 gevmata)\nkai meta apo thn defteri week kai meta katebazeis 50gr rizi kai afxaneis 50gr kotopoulo mexrii opou thes na ftaseis,egw px eftasa 1200 gr a day kotopoulo mono tis teleftees 10 meres (ola afta xwreis zaxari alati ennoite psito kotopoulo kai brasto rizi xwris to nero)\nMazi eperna 2 supradyn becozym vit c bentotal vit e (OLES VITAMINES einai GIA OPION DEN XEREI!!)\nAfta gia thn arxi alla einai poli extrime!! den xerw ama to bgazeis...\nAlla ta apotelesmata einai sigoura!!!\n19-09-05 21:20 #6\nγιατι δεν θα εχεις δυναμη να κουνηθεις ?\n19-09-05 22:20 #7\nFile Morphyne kalosirthes sto forum!\nΑρχικό μήνυμα απο Morphyne\nnomizo oti ayto einai ligo epipolaio.\n20-09-05 17:13 #8\nkita egw sthn italia mazi me alla paidia apo to gym katebikeme agones(begginer natural gia na mhn arxisoune alla sxolia...kai bgika 4 sthn italia sta 85kg prhn 4 xronia) me afti thn diatrofi tupot'allo kai mporo na sou pw oti oloi ma oloi pathane plaka!!!\nama to kaneis gia 15 meres mono tha deis tromerh diafora...\nbebea thelei na exeis kefali gia na to kaneis den einai katholou efkolo...allios oloi tha htan kommenoi..\nfantasou spoudaza tote italia kai eixa diabash apo ena mathima(mhxanologos mhxanikos eimai) mono 10 selides!! kai aftes me xilia zoria.\n20-09-05 18:48 #9\nde tha paratheso kai ego tou titlous mou, giati den nomizo oti xreiazontai gia na entyposiaso.\nMia prosegmeni diatrofi grammosis pou stoxeyyei na epiferei ta VELTISTA apotelesmata se meiosi leipous kai diatirisi myikis mazas, apoexei poly apo to aplo...kotopoulo+ryzi. Akomi epeidi leitoyrgise gia sena den nomizo oti mporeis na tin proteineis anepifilaxta.\n20-09-05 19:44 #10\nre paidia egw eimai poli kainourgios kai oute titlous oute tipota exw\nmallon asxetos eimai kai ton telefteo 1,5 xrono prospathw na enimerwthw\npantws ena exw mathei:den iparxoun magika kai tipota den einai panakeia\nopote mallon simfwnw me ton muscleboss\n21-09-05 12:58 #11\nkatse egw den sou eipa gia titlous kai parasima\nsou eipa gia enan agwna begginer se italiko epipedo kai NATURAL...\nden thelw na entiposiasw kai oute eithela na kanw ton exipno aplos sou eipa thn peristash pou thn dokimasame kai to anefera apla gia na katalabeis oti mono me thn diatrofh kai xwreis kamia ximia eixame apotelesmata...Twra ama ebaza kai ALLA PRAGMATA den tha eftana 4 alla protos(kai sigoura tha prospathousa na paw sto DUE TORRI ths BOLOGNA kai oxi se tetio agwna )kai me poli ligoterh kourash etsi den einai.... afto einai allo kefaleo..\nTwra gia thn diatrofh thn singkekrimenh GIA NATURAL ATOMO pianei GIA ALLOUS ATHLITES POU EXOUNE ALLA KOLPA GIA THN GRAMOSH AFTO EINAI LALAKIA xerw kosmo pou den ekane kan diatrofh stous agwnes kai, apo ti mou les exeis pari pollous titlous,prepi na xereis etsi den einai????\nKAI GIA NA MHN PARAXigITHEIS LEW ,efoson sou aresei to athlima NA XEREIS OXI NA KANEIS KAI ESI TA IDIA etsi? sizitish kanoume\n21-09-05 14:37 #12\n^ OK. Morphyne, den thelo se kamia periptosi na anoixo antiparathesi.\nH diatrofi pou proteineis mporei na doulevei, alla opos eipe o filos vassilis den einai panakeia.\nles 4 weeks na tin kanei kapoios kai tha einai kommatia. Rotises to pososto lipous aytou tou atomou? rotises tin proponitiki tou empieiria?ilikia? ton metavolismo tou?diladi ti, mono ryzi kai kotopoulo?alloi ydatatharkes?alli proteini? posotites pou prei na troei? pososta lipsis thermidon apo ydat? apo lipos?ti lipos? apo proteini? xronismos geymaton? ...kai tosa ala...\nme liga logia thelo na po, oti se dyo grammes den mporei kanenas na vgalei diatrofi gia grammosi i otidipote alli diatrofi kai na thereite olokliromeni.\n21-09-05 17:50 #13\n[quote="Muscleboss"]^ OK. Morphyne, den thelo se kamia periptosi na anoixo antiparathesi.\nposotites eipa grigora grigora prin...\ngia na gramoseis mono rizi thelei AMA MILAME GIA NATURAL\ntwra to poso pou tha xasei tha einai mono lipos\nsignomh ligo to exeis???\nto themaeinai an MPOREIS NA TO KANEIS......\nOloi dialegoune tous efkolous dromous... to xekiname me carnitini kai pilosella meta blepoume oti den pianei thn defterh fora ,kai pernoume kati pio dinato... efedr mexri na ftasoume se winst insul ktlp .. kai meta klene\nKANW KANENA LATHOS MHPOS??????\nkai afto giati sinantame kamia fora lathos atoma kai emeis pano sthn porosh tsimpame san xanoi!! "ela more mono etsi tha anebeis mono etsi tha gramoseis..." anti na kourastoume sto gym trogontas sidero anti gia lalakies\nPou les twra pou sizitame epidh ama asxolitheis poli se kati blepeis oles tis plevres (giati se ola a pragmata iparxei h bromikh plevra) kai egw ektos apo tis spoudes mou thn doulia mou exw san hobby to bb to agapaw poli exw dei ta panta panw se afto.....kai xerw kai pola alla ftaneis se ena stavrodomh dexia h aristera egw dialexa enan dromo opos o kathenas mas alla prepi na ftanoume se afto to stavrodomi kai na apofasizoume emeis ..esi ti les??oxi alloi, blepontas thn porosei enos paidiou sthn arxi\negw nomizw oti ena paidi prepi na mathei na kourazete gia na petixei giati mono etsi exei apopsh kai dialegei ton dromo pou tha parei....\ngia thn dieta twra den tha katso na kanw diatrofi hmerisia gia na katalabeis ti ennow ama exeis parei titlous kai sou lew 800gr kot kai 300 rizi xereis se poses fores tha to xoriseis thn nmera egw aplos sou eipa pws na kaneis me tis analogies stis 4 weeks\n21-09-05 18:04 #14\npisteveis diladi oti oloi mporuna na vgaloun fetes koiliakous me 800gr kot kai 300 gram ryzi? an nai tote tha se diapsefso...\npou einai ta laxanika ? pou einai oi ydatanthakes me to xamilotero dynato gkykaimiko deikti? pou einai ta EFA? ti ginetai me to post wrorkout drink kai pos prpei na xeirizomaste tin insoulini kata tin periodo grammosis.\nprepei na ginontai geymata xoris ydatanthrakes kai an nai posa, gia na petuxoume ta xamilotera dynata epipeda insoulinis kata ti diarkeia tis meras?...\nDen thelo na po tpt allo. To kotopoulo ryzi mporei na doulevei, alla APEXEI POLY apo mia olokliromeni kai veltistopoimeni diatrofi grammosis kai milao panta gia natural.\n22-09-05 13:43 #15\nkoita ama kitaxeis kal sthn arxi,sou grafw pws na anebaseis to stithos kot kai pws na katebaseis to rizi mexri ta 50 gr(egw tote otan thn ekana ths teleftees 10 meres den etroga kan rizi mono 1200gr kotopoulo me ligi ntomata frescia)\nkai sou grafw kai ola ta simpliromata se vitamines pou prepi na pareis giati ontos einai diskolh diatrofh den lew...\nkoita na deis afto egw to eipa ama kapios mesa se 20 meres peripou thelei na einai kapos gramomenos...den leme gia agwnes etsi...giati egw sou grafw oti ton telefteo mhna prhn ton agwna ekana afti thn diatrofh alla h olh proetimasia den xekinisai apo edw dld den ekana 4 mhnes afti thn diatrofh katarxhn den ginete ...alla ama thn kaneis ston telefteo mhna (gia agwnes)\nh thn kanei opiosdipote khnos anthropws gia 20 meres tha dei tromerh diafora sto somatoy\nafta file boss den thelw na fenete oti tsakonomaste giati etsi tha nomizoun oi alloi ama diabazeis afta pou grapsame, egw den exw kanena problhma oute me sena oute me kanenan apo to site kai oute thelw na kanw ton exipno kai ton xerola apla thelw na milame giia to hobby mas na leme tis apopsis mas kai o kathenas apo emas na krataei kati ap'ola afta pou leme gia na kalitereboume panta. kai amalaxi na brethoume oloi se meeting na gnoristoume apo konta


url: = Xiliades karnabalistes, satirika armata kai sokolatopolemos sto karnabali ths Patras\n P. Kroygkman: H Ellada kerdise ``periqwrio anasas''\n Toylaxiston 41 nekroi meta to nayagio porqmeioy sto Mpangklantes\n Panaqhnaikos-Olympiakos 0-2 (se ejelijh)\nMporei h broxh na mhn stamathse oyte lepto kaq' olh th diarkeia ths tetrawrhs megalhs parelashs toy patrinoy karnabalioy, omws den katafere na ptohsei toys 35.000 karnabalistes, poy kataferan na metadwsoyn stoys qeates mhnymata aisiodojias, elpidas kai xaras gia th zwh.\nH trexoysa epikairothta kyriarxhse sto satiriko, karnabaliko pneyma, toso twn armatwn toy dhmoy Patrewn, oso kai twn plhrwmatwn toy krymmenoy qhsayroy, me eyfantastes kai synarpastikes metamorfwseis, enw den eleican empneyseis kai aformes apo mia eyrytath qematologia. Ta qemata htan satirika, kallitexnika, ephreasmena apo thn oikonomikh krish kai thn epikairothta. Epishs, alla qemata eixan antlhsei empneysh apo ton kinhmatografo, ta paramyqia, thn mageirikh kai tis mnhmes toy xqes, pantote omws me ayqentikh karnabalikh diaqesh.\nParallhla, oi ejairetikes stoles, ta armata-oxhmata kai oi eyrhmatikes kataskeyes poy paroysiasan ta plhrwmata toy krymmenoy qhsayroy, apespasan to xeirokrothma twn qeatwn.\nSthn koryfh ths karnabalikhs parelashs htan ta metamfiesmena melh ths dhmotikhs moysikhs, poy paianizan gnwsta apokriatika tragoydia kai akoloyqoysan o basilias karnabalos kai to arma ths basilissas me thn akoloyqia toys, poy htan satirika armata dhmoy, armata toy karnabalioy twn paidiwn, kaqws kai metamfiesmenoi.\nSthn synexeia, thn skytalh phran oi 35.000 nees kai neoi ths Patras. Eyrhmatikothta, fantasia, asteireyto kefi kai xoros ki ena potami xrwmatwn, xaroymenwn diaqesewn kai ekplhjewn plhmmyrise thn odo Korinqoy, alla kai toys gyrw dromoys.\nSto telos ths parelashs to analloiwto sto perasma toy xronoy eqimo toy sokolatopolemoy afhse thn pio glykia geysh se patrinoys kai episkeptes.\nH teleytaia prajh toy patrinoy karnabalioy jetylixqhke sto molo ths Agioy Nikolaoy, me thn teleth lhjhs kai thn kaysh toy basilia karnabaloy.\nMe neo arqro toy sthn efhmerida Nioy Giork Taims gia th symfwnia poy epiteyxqhke sto Eurogroup thn Paraskeyh, o Amerikanos nompelistas oikonomologos, Pol Kroygkman, anaferei oti h Ellada kerdise ``periqwrio anasas'' gia th ``megalyterh maxh'' poy exei mprosta ths.\nOpws epishmainei sthn arxh, ``twra, poy h skonh exei katalagiasei ligo, mporoyme na doyme me hremia th symfwnia -ean prokeitai pragmati gia symfwnia poy qa epibiwsei sto ayrio- gia thn opoia merikoi amfiballoyn. Kai ginetai olo kai perissotero safes oti h Ellada bghke se shmantika kalyterh katastash, toylaxiston gia twra''.\nSymfwna me to arqro, ``h kyria drash, panta, perilambanei to prwtogenes pleonasma ths Elladas -poso perissotero qa prepei na ayjhsei ta esoda ths apo o, ti mporei na jodecei se alla pragmata ektos tokwn. To erwthma tis teleytaies hmeres qa htan an oi Ellhnes na anagkastoyn na symfwnhsoyn na qesoyn ena stoxo gia poly ychla prwtogenh pleonasmata katw apo thn apeilh na wqhqoyn se amesh krish. Kai den ejanagkasthkan. Enas tropos gia na doyme ayto einai mesw ths prosektikhs fraseologias, opws ginetai edw. Ayto einai arketa xrhsimo. Alla, qa elega oti kata mia shmantikh ennoia exoyme perasei pleon ayto to eidos ths allaghs twn lejewn. Antiqeta, qa prepei na skeftoyme ti qa symbei se megalo baqmo apo edw pera''.\nToylaxiston 41 anqrwpoi, anamesa toys enteka paidia, exasan th zwh toys shmera sto Mpangklantes meta to nayagio porqmeioy poy sygkroysthke me forthgo ploio, anakoinwse h astynomia tonizontas oti oi ereynes gia ton entopismo epizwntwn synexizontai.\nOi arxes den gnwrizoyn ton akribh ariqmo twn epibatwn, wstoso symfwna me toys epizhsantes toy nayagioy, to MV Mostofa mporei na metefere ews 150 atoma th stigmh toy dystyxhmatos poy shmeiwqhke ston potamo Pantma, peripoy 70 xlm. boreiodytika ths prwteyoysas Ntaka.\nOi ereynes einai se ejelijh, paroti einai nyxta, gia ton entopismo agnooymenwn, me th bohqeia probolewn allwn ploiwn.\n"Oi dytes brhkan 41 ptwmata, apo ta opoia enteka einai paidiwn kai epta gynaikwn", dhlwse o dioikhths ths topikhs astynomias Rakimpoyz Zaman. "Peripoy 50 nayagoi efqasan stis oxqes toy potamoy kolympwntas h meta th diaswsh toys apo alla ploia".\nSton termatiko toy sidhrodromikoy staqmoy ths perioxhs Patoyria, sth Ntaka, ektylixqhkan tragikes stigmes. Oi oikogeneies twn qymatwn eixan sygkentrwqei ekei gia thn anagnwrish twn sorwn, tis opoies eixan metaferei sto shmeio ayto ta synergeia diaswshs.\nMe 2-0 prohgeitai o Panaqhnaikos sto ntermpi koryfhs me ton Olympiako poy diejagetai sto ghpedo ths Lewforoy Alejandras gia thn 25h agwnistikh toy prwtaqlhmatos ths Soyper Ligkas.\nMe to aytogkol toy Mazoyakoy apo to gyrisma toy Pranits sto 49', o Panaqhnaikos phre to probadisma kai o Petrits sto 78' ebale tis baseis gia th nikh.\nO Baggelhs Oikonomoy, ekmetalleyomenos to tragiko laqos toy Shfakh, lytrwse ton Paniwnio, kaqws htan o skorer sto 80o lepto toy agwna sth Nea Smyrnh kontra sto Lebadeiako (1-0).\nXwris nikhth, me 1-1 oloklhrwqhke h anametrhsh sta Peribolia twn Xaniwn anamesa ston Platania kai thn Kerkyra.\nXwris kamia apolytws eykairia apo toys paiktes toy Panaqhnaikoy kai toy Olympiakoy teleiwse to prwto hmixrono sto ``Apostolos Nikolaidhs''.\nana2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 22 February 2015 - 19:30:21 UTC