url: =Tetarth, 27 Ianoyarioy 2010\nAriqmos Deltioy: 248390743\nAqhna, 27 Ianoyarioy 2010\n" Opws profanws gnwrizete, hdh, o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos k. Giwrgos Papandreoy exei episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Karolo Papoylia gia na toy anakoinwsei kai epishma thn protash ths kybernhshs, thn protash toy PASOK gia thn epaneklogh toy, legontas toy oti qewrei pws h epaneklogh toy k. Papoylia einai oxi aplws aytonohth, alla epibeblhmeno kaqhkon gia oloys mas.\n" H kybernhsh, synephs stis desmeyseis gia rizikes tomes, proxwrhse xqes mesw ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias, se anakoinwsh desmhs metrwn gia tis ergasiakes sxeseis poy perilambanei thn eisagwgh ryqmisewn sthn agora ergasias. Eidika sto krisimo qema twn elastikwn morfwn apasxolhshs, to prosxedio nomoy hdh doqhke xqes stoys koinwnikoys etairoys kai qa katateqei epishma thn epomenh ebdomada sth Boylh. Epishs, prowqeitai nomosxedio, to opoio qa einai etoimo stis arxes Martioy, gia ton periorismo ths adhlwths ergasias, thn epanasystash toy SEPE kai th diadoxikh asfalish.\n" Proxwrame me gorgoys ryqmoys sthn ylopoihsh twn proeklogikwn kai programmatikwn mas desmeysewn, me epikentro ton polith, alla kai th diafaneia se oloys toys tomeis toy dhmosioy bioy. Se ayto to plaisio, ejalloy, anakoinwqhke xqes, me prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Amynas k. Benizeloy kai apofash toy Proedroy ths Boylhs k. Petsalnikoy, h systash diakommatikhs ypoepitrophs ths Boylhs, armodias epi qematwn toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, poy qa yposthrizei th diarkh epitroph Eqnikhs Amynas kai qa eggyatai th diafaneia ston eyaisqhto tomea twn dhmosiwn dapanwn gia ta ejoplistika programmata. Kati poy symbainei gia prwth fora kai einai para poly shmantiko kai gia thn oikonomia mas kai gia thn empedwsh ths diafaneias. Emeis, opws prokyptei, tis desmeyseis mas tis kanoyme prajh, staqera kai me synepeia.\n" Shmera, omws, gia allh mia fora kaloyme ton agrotiko kosmo se systrateysh gia na ylopoihsoyme mia oloklhrwmenh eqnikh strathgikh gia ton agrotiko tomea, opws thn aneptyje kai xqes h politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs. Den qeloyme kai den einai apenanti mas oi agrotes. Den qeloyme toys agrotes sta mploka. Toys qeloyme mazi mas ston agwna gia thn anadiarqrwsh ths agrotikhs oikonomias, thn anadiarqrwsh toy kratoys kai thn anatajh synolika ths oikonomias mas.\nTa problhmata twn agrotwn -to exoyme pei polles fores- ta gnwrizoyme. Einai problhmata qesmika, diarqrwtika kai oikonomika. Emeis se ayta ta aithmata exoyme apanthsei emprakta, me programmatismena metra oikonomikhs sthrijhs mexri tis 31/12/2010, dhladh mesa sto 2010, ycoys 5,5 disekatommyriwn eyrw. Alla, kai se qesmiko epipedo prowqoyme prwtoboylies gia thn anamorfwsh toy syndikalistikoy kinhmatos, thn anadiarqrwsh toy ELGA, shmantikotato ergaleio poy exei amesh sxesh me thn oikonomikh epibiwsh twn agrotwn mas, th meiwsh toy kostoys paragwghs, thn ejomalynsh ths leitoyrgias ths agrotikhs agoras kai ths dikaihs gia oloys rohs twn agrotikwn proiontwn, apo ton paragwgo ews ton teliko katanalwth, xwris kartel, xwris kerdoskopikes diamesolabhseis.\nStis shmantikes anagkes, loipon, twn agrotwn, apantame me makropnoo sxedio kai sobares kai monimes protaseis. Se aytes tis krisimes stigmes gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai enw hdh arxisan na fainontai ta prwta qetika shmeia apo tis dieqneis agores kai apo toys etairoys mas, logw ths politikhs poy akoloyqoyme toys teleytaioys treis mhnes, prepei oloi na analogistoyme tis eyqynes mas. Kai prepei oloi na drasoyme me gnwmona to dhmosio symferon, to koino kalo.\nEimaste pepeismenoi oti qa yparjei antapokrish se ayto to kalesma, apo oloys. Qa ejantlhsoyme kaqe dynatothta gia dialogo, me oles kai gia oles tis pragmatikes kai oysiastikes lyseis.\nGARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, kat` arxas, mporeite na mas dieykrinisete ean yparxoyn dyo grammes sthn kybernhsh, se sxesh me thn taktikh poy akoloyqei enanti twn mplokwn, prwton, kai deyteron, ti qa kanete, meta apo ta mploka, qa exete twra stis 4 kai 5 Febroyarioy apergia eforiakwn. Kai ws gnwston, oi eforiakoi mazeyoyn ta esoda. Ti qa ginei me ayth thn istoria;\nPETALWTHS: Oi eforiakoi, einai gnwsto, oti mazeyoyn ta esoda. Einai doyleia toys, ylopoiwntas odhgies toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn. Yparxei mia grammh sthn kybernhsh, einai jekaqarh, einai safestath apo thn prwth stigmh. Thn exei anakoinwsei kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs. Epibebaiwnetai kaqe hmera. Den pame gia mpalwmata, den pame gia meremetia, gia eykairiakes epidomatikes politikes, amfiboloy nomimothtas, opws sto parelqon. Doyleyoyme oloi mazi gia pragmatikes lyseis, gia monimes lyseis, gia anadiarqrwsh ths agrotikhs oikonomias. Kai ayth einai h apanthsh sth megalh proklhsh toy agrotikoy zhthmatos. Ayth kai mono einai h grammh ths kybernhshs.\nMPOTWNHS: Blepoyme, omws, oi agrotes na mhn katalabainoyn h den qeloyn na katalaboyn ayta poy toys lete eseis. Pisteyete oti pisw apo ayth thn kinhtopoihsh yparxoyn kommata sygkekrimena poy prowqoyn toys agrotes kai na einai kai sta mploka gia na toys kratane ekei;\nPETALWTHS: H megalh pleiochfia twn agrotwn antilambanetai tis politikes ths shmerinhs kybernhshs. Prospaqoyme na peisoyme kai toys agrotes oi opoioi briskontai sta mploka na katanohsoyn th sobarothta ths xronikhs sygkyrias, na erqoyn se dialogo mazi mas, giati mono apo to dialogo mporoyn na bgoyn monimes lyseis. Oson afora sto rolo twn kommatwn, to kaqe komma einai ypeyqyno gia th stash toy. Einai gnwsth h politikh, h taktikh twn kommatwn kai gi` ayto eipa oti oloi krinomaste enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Ap` ayto exete diapistwsei kapoies kinhseis apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, opws th N.D. h to KKE, poy na ypodaylizoyn aytes tis kinhtopoihseis twn agrotwn; Exete entopisei tetoio pragma;\nPETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti ta kommata einai ypeyqyna gia th stash toys. O ellhnikos laos antilambanetai kai tis politikes kai tis taktikes twn kommatwn. Antilambanetai se ayth th xronikh sygkyria oti to na paizoyme mikropolitika paixnidia, oxi aplws den bgazei poyqena, alla einai megalh zhmia gia ton topo. Apo ekei kai pera, qa prepei na katanohsoyn kai oi agrotes oi opoioi einai sta mploka, na synaisqanqoyn th stigmh thn eyqynh kai thn oikonomikh sygkyria kai na stamathsoyn aytoy toy eidoys tis kinhtopoihseis.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Xqes, sto Megaro Majimoy egine mia syskech sthn opoia symmeteixate kai eseis. Shmerina dhmosieymata anaferoyn oti apofasisthke na yparjei metwpo apenanti sto KKE kai stoys agrotes syndikalistes ths N.D. Isxyei kati tetoio;\nPETALWTHS: Se ayth th syskech poy symmeteixa kai egw, egine mia diereynhsh toy zhthmatos twn kinhtopoihsewn. Parakoloyqhsame tis ejelijeis. Den exoyme metwpo kata kapoiwn kommatwn, exoyme metwpo kata aytwn poy dhmioyrgoyn problhmata se sygkekrimenh xronikh sygkyria gia th xwra mas kai h kalyterh apanthsh einai h politikh mas, thn opoia jediplwnoyme mera me th mera kai thn efarmozoyme.\nSTRATAKHS: Exete mia eikona gia to pososto twn agrotwn poy symmetexoyn stis kinhtopoihseis;\nPETALWTHS: Se sxesh me to synoliko agrotiko plhqysmo, nomizw oti einai mia aplh maqhmatikh diadikasia. H Ellada apoteleitai apo ena megalo pososto agrotwn. Opws prokyptei, stis sygkekrimenes kinhtopoihseis yparxoyn omades me trakter oi opoies antapokrinontai se mikro ariqmo.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Qewreite oti einai ypokinoymenoi oi agrotes;\nPETALWTHS: O rolos twn agrotwn einai gnwstos. Ta problhmata toys einai gnwsta. Symmerizomaste thn agwnia toys. Den leme oti den yparxoyn problhmata. Yparxoyn, einai megala, einai xronia, yparxoyn xronies paqogeneies. Epideinwqhkan ayta ta problhmata me thn politikh ths Neas Dhmokratias ta teleytaia eji xronia, gi` ayto leme oti qeloyn kai rizikh antimetwpish. Apo kei kai pera, to ean einai ypokinoymenoi oi agrotes oi opoioi einai sta mploka, einai megalh syzhthsh. Emas mas endiaferei na milame me aytoys toys agrotes. Kapoioi isws prospaqoyn na toys ypokinhsoyn. Exoyn thn eyqynh gi` ayta poy kanoyn.\nPOLYMEROS: Dieykrinistika na rwthsw kati, eipate prin akribws apo ligo oti den exoyme metwpo kata kapoiwn kommatwn, exoyme metwpo me aytoys poy dhmioyrgoyn problhmata. Ti ennoeite, den to katalaba, gia na mhn yparjoyn parejhghseis.\nPETALWTHS: Ta kommata exoyn to rolo toys, tis politikes toys kai thn taktikh toys. Gi` ayto akribws krinontai apo ton ellhniko lao kai malista kriqhkan prin apo treis molis mhnes. Osoi prospaqoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn problhmata sth shmerinh sygkyria exoyn kai thn eyqynh. Aytoi einai poy einai apenanti mas.\nTZANETATOS: Ean ayth h katastash me ta mploka synexistei, ejetazete to endexomeno na kanete kapoia dynamikh parembash; Ean den to ejetazete akoma na ikanopoihsete kapoia apo ta aithmata toys;\nPETALWTHS: Opws eipa kai prohgoymenws sthn prwtogenh enhmerwsh, emeis hdh ena terastio meros apo ta aithmata to exoyme ikanopoihsei, poly protoy yparjoyn aytes oi kinhtopoihseis, giati htan mesa stis programmatikes mas desmeyseis. Einai gnwsto oti deka shmeia eixe proanaggeilei, prin tis ekloges -kai poly prin malista apo tis ekloges- se anypopto xrono o shmerinos Prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy kai apo ta Trikala kai apo tis Serres. Ara, emeis briskomaste sth diadikasia prowqhshs ths epilyshs toy megaloy agrotikoy zhthmatos. Ta aithmata poy exoyn sxesh me thn epidomatikh politikh, h opoia einai eykairiakh, einai proswrinh kai anakyklwnei to megalo agrotiko problhma, den to syzhtame. Exoyme sygkekrimena oikonomika periqwria, alla kai sygkekrimenh politikh, pera apo ta anyparkta oikonomika periqwria.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo tis dieqneis ejelijeis sthn oikonomia, otan anagkazetai na daneistei, estw aneta bebaia, na brei ta xrhmata poy zhtaei, alla na daneistei me epitokio 6,2, an qymamai kala, me ena spread dhladh 400, 500 kai paei legontas. Den einai panakribos aytos o daneismos, den einai idiaiterws kostobora ayth h diadikasia gia na sas afhnei toso ikanopoihmenoys;\nPETALWTHS: H kybernhsh den einai ikanopoihmenh apo th shmerinh oikonomikh sygkyria. Ayto einai safestato. Ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws einai oti arxisan na fainontai kapoia qetika shmeia kai kapoia qetika deigmata kai apo tis dieqneis agores, alla kai apo toys etairoys mas, giati prokyptei kai empedwnetai se oloys oti ayth h kybernhsh doyleyei me ajiopistia. Kai ayto einai to megalo stoixhma mas. Kai gnwrizoyme oti akribws ayto to elleimma ajiopistias einai poy plhrwnei shmera h ellhnikh oikonomia me ola ayta poy dexetai kai tis pieseis, alla kai thn asxhmh oikonomikh katastash. To oti mporesame kai daneisthkame ayto to poso, to opoio eixame balei ws stoxo kai malista me pollaplasia prosfora, ayto apo mono toy einai ena qetiko deigma. To spread, bebaiws, einai poly ychlo. Ayto, omws, proerxetai apo thn asxhmh katastash ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, h opoia dhmioyrghqhke ta teleytaia xronia kai apo to terastio elleimma ajiopistias, to opoio diapistwnoyn oi pantes se eyrwpaiko kai pagkosmio epipedo. Akribws ayto to elleimma prospaqoyme na anaplhrwsoyme. Prospaqoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme mia oikonomikh katastash, h opoia na einai ajiopisth, na einai elkystikh, etsi wste na mhn anagkazomaste shmera na daneizomaste me ayta ta akriba epitokia.\nBASILOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, qymizw, eipe oti monoi mas qa taktopoihsoyme ta toy oikoy mas. O filos toy kai apo o,ti legetai toylaxiston sto reportaz synergaths toy k. Stigklits, kalei toys Eyrwpaioys na bohqhsoyn thn Ellada gia na bgei apo to problhma. Telika, exoyme zhthsei apo ton k. Stigklits na parembei se toso ychlo epipedo, qa analabei kapoia qesh o k. Stigklits se o,ti afora thn pagkosmia eikona ths xwras sxetika me to oikonomiko problhma;\nPETALWTHS: Safws kai isxyei ayto poy dhlwse o Prwqypoyrgos k. Papandreoy, oti monoi mas lynoyme ta problhmata mas, opws kai se ena poly megalo baqmo monoi mas ta dhmioyrghsame. Ara, den mporoyme na exoyme thn apaithsh apo kapoioys ektos Ellados na lysoyn ta problhmata mas. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaia, einai aytonohto oti yparxei kai prepei na yparxei h allhleggyh anamesa stoys Eyrwpaioys etairoys kai to mono zhthma poy tiqetai einai se ayth th diastash. Einai, omws, kaqarh eyqynh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, ths ellhnikhs Politeias, ths eyqynhs poy prepei na synaisqanqei o ellhnikos laos gia na bgoyme apo ayto to oikonomiko adiejodo, to opoio bebaia sto telos exei elpida kai exei prooptikh.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Proeklogika o Prwqypoyrgos, anaferomenos stis ergasiakes sxeseis, yposthrize oti otan to PASOK ginei kybernhsh qa katarghsei ta mplokakia, thn enoikiash twn ergazomenwn, th merikh apasxolhsh. To nomosxedio poy dwsate gia diaboyleysh xqes, stis protaseis toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias, oxi mono den katargoyntai ola ayta. Paramenoyn se isxy kai dinetai h dynatothta parallhla stoys epixeirhmaties, na baloyn se diaqesimothta toys ergazomenoys ws treis mhnes me miso misqo, gia pronomio toy ergodoth na dieyqetei to xrono ergasias. Ti akribws; Giati miloysate oti qa katarghsete ton ergasiako mesaiwna. Oxi mono den ton katargeite, alla ton enisxyete. Ti akribws symbainei;\nPETALWTHS: Emeis, me ayta ta sxedia nomoy poy fernoyme kai ta opoia ginontai meta apo poly megalh meleth, akribws ayto kanoyme: Katargoyme ton ergasiako mesaiwna, o opoios yparxei se poly megalo epipedo kai se poly megalo baqmo. Einai mia pragmatikh katastash. Ayta einai ta dedomena poy exoyme, poy antimetwpizoyme kai me aytes tis energeies, oi opoies einai shmantikes, drastikes, beltiwnoyme tis ergasiakes sxeseis, etsi wste na mporei na yparxei koinwnikh synoxh kai koinwnikh eirhnh. Giati, ayto einai to zhtoymeno. Mesa apo th diaboyleysh qetoyme ayta ta shmantikotata gia toys ergazomenoys kai gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia nomoqethmata.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: To na mpainei se diaqesimothta enas ergazomenos apo thn epixeirhsh kai na plhrwnetai miso misqo, qewreite oti katargei to nomosxedio ton ergasiako mesaiwna;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, na milame synolika kai oxi apospasmatika. Ayta ta nomosxedia qa doqoyn sth dhmosiothta. Yparxei h diadikasia kai ths dhmosias diaboyleyshs, alla kai me toys koinwnikoys etairoys. Qa ekfrastoyn kai oi ekproswpoi twn ergazomenwn, etsi wste sto telos na exoyme ergasiakes sxeseis poy qa armozoyn se mia sygxronh proodeytikh xwra, opws einai pleon h Ellada.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Xqes, h kybernhsh anakoinwse oti qa dwsei 4 dis eyrw gia thn enisxysh twn epixeirhsewn. Mexri proxqes, o ypoyrgos Ergasias elege oti ``den yparxei salio''. Telika, poy einai h alhqeia; Otan einai na dwsoyme gia to epidoma anergias ``den yparxei salio'' kai otan einai na dwsoyme gia tis epixeirhseis yparxoyn 4 dis;\nPETALWTHS: H oikonomikh katastash toy OAED kai twn Tameiwn einai gnwsth. Den xreiazetai na to pei kaneis. Kai malista na anakalyptoyme oti to lene kai me idiaitero tropo. Einai gnwsto ayto poy eipe o k. Loberdos. Einai h pragmatikothta oti den yphrxan xrhmata kai den yparxoyn. Hmera me thn hmera, omws, ayth h kybernhsh agwnizetai, etsi wste na mhn yparjei amfibolia oti qa katablhqoyn epidomata kai syntajeis. Ayto einai safestato. Apo ekei kai pera, profanws milate gia ta programmata toy OAED, etsi wste na ginei pio elkystikh h proslhch ergazomenwn apo toys epixeirhmaties. Ayto htan programmatikh kai proeklogikh desmeysh toy PASOK, thn opoia ylopoiei, etsi wste xiliades neoi poy shmera einai anergoi na mporesoyn na broyn doyleia me tetoio elkystiko kinhtro kai tropo.\nXRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe stis metrhseis ths koinhs gnwmhs, h syntriptikh pleiochfia twn politwn symfwnei oti h katastash ths xwras einai krisimh kai oti prepei na lhfqoyn metra. Otan omws ta metra aggizoyn kapoioys, amesws antidroyn. Me dedomeno oti exoyn anoixtei polla qemata apo thn kybernhsh, telika den fobosaste mia genikeymenh antidrash poy qa nekrwsei th xwra;\nPETALWTHS: Emeis gi` ayto to opoio eimaste sigoyroi, einai oti exoyme mazi mas ton ellhniko lao. To eipa polles fores  kai to exoyn pei polla melh ths kybernhshs  oti thn wrimothta poy deixnei o ellhnikos laos shmera, o Ellhnas poliths, den thn exoyme dei se prohgoymenes xronikes politikes periodoys. Anagnwrizei poly kala se poso dyskolh oikonomikh katastash briskomaste. O Ellhnas poliths anagnwrizei oti qa prepei na yparxoyn megales apofaseis gia baqies, rizikes allages. Kai ekei h kybernhsh toy PASOK exei symmaxo thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws, opoies epaggelmatikes omades nomizoyn oti qigontai, exoyn dikaiwma na askoyn ta apergiaka dikaiwmata toys h na kanoyn alles kinhtopoihseis, se tetoio baqmo omws poy na mhn empodizoyn thn koinwnikh eirhnh, na mhn diasaleyoyn thn koinwnikh eirhnh. Alla se telikh analysh dhlwnoyme oti eimaste apofasismenoi na ta baloyme, na antitaxqoyme me symferonta, ta opoia den ejyphretoyn shmera ton ellhniko lao, me monadiko gnwmona to dhmosio symferon.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Epeidh eipate gia thn koinwnikh eirhnh kai epeidh, profanws, me ta mploka h koinwnikh eirhnh den pernaei kai ta kalytera ths...\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Ti xroniko periqwrio dinete se ayta ta mploka prin parete kapoia alla metra, peran ths epimonhs sto dialogo;\nPETALWTHS: Den qa mpoyme sth diadikasia na exoyme xronodiagrammata. Emeis qeloyme na stamathsoyn oi kinhtopoihseis, dinoyme tis lyseis kai bebaiws qeloyme na yparxei eynomia kai na efarmozetai o nomos.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Kai otan den efarmozetai;\nPETALWTHS: Einai qema aytwn oi opoioi prostateyoyn ton Ellhna polith, einai qema Dikaiosynhs. Emeis omws se ayth th fash milame mono, staqera gia dialogo. Paramenoyme stis qeseis mas kai pisteyoyme oti mesa apo ayth th diadikasia thn opoia epilegoyme qa stamathsoyn oi kinhtopoihseis, etsi wste na yparxei kai h dynatothta na prowqhqoyn ta agrotika zhthmata.\nPOLYMEROS: Pote skeftetai na kalesei o Prwqypoyrgos ton k. Erntogan sthn Aqhna;\nPETALWTHS: H prosklhsh hdh exei apeyqynqei, mesw ths gnwsths epistolhs, h opoia exei epidoqei sthn toyrkikh kybernhsh. H hmeromhnia einai qema ths diplwmatikhs odoy.\nPOLYMEROS: Kapoioi miloyn gia meta thn 25h Martioy. Alhqeyoyn ayta ta senaria;\nPETALWTHS: Otan yparxei hmeromhnia qa anakoinwqei, opws ginetai se aytes tis epishmes episkeceis.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Wraia hmeromhnia einai h 25h Martioy.\nPETALWTHS: Meta thn 25h Martioy.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Nai, bebaiws. na sas rwthsw: Xqes, leei - epeidh hsastan ekei, gia ayto to lew mhpws akoysate tipote eipwqhke oti - perissotero apo thn pleyra toy k. Pagkaloy, alla en pash periptwsei den einai to qema twra poios  h ERT den kalyptei me tropo orqo tis agrotikes kinhtopoihseis kai perissotero, etsi, tis ypodaylizei. Ekfrasthke kapoio parapono. Einai alhqes ayto; Yparxei tetoio qema;\nPETALWTHS: To ti syzhthqhke se ayth th syskech den einai anakoinwsimo analytika. Emas mas endiaferoyn ta antikeimenika zhthmata, ta opoia tiqentai, mas endiaferei na stamathsoyn oi kinhtopoihseis kai menoyme ekei.\nZAFEIRIADH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poio einai to qema gia to opoio blepei shmera o Prwqypoyrgos ton k. Probopoylo;\nPETALWTHS: Opws gnwrizete kai gnwrizoyme oloi, o k. Probopoylos einai Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados, me tis gnwstes shmantikes toy armodiothtes. Ara einai apolytws logiko, ayth th xronikh sygkyria, na yparxei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados gia ta meizona zhthmata ths oikonomias.\nZAFEIRIADH: Xqes o k. Kaklamanhs zhthse na metatrapei h Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias se ejetastikh Epitroph gia tis ypoklopes. Skefteste kati tetoio;\nPETALWTHS: H Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias einai mia Epitroph gia thn opoia kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos exei desmeytei oti qa frontisoyme na thn anabaqmisoyme. Den einai mia typikh Epitroph. Einai Epitroph oysias, einai diakommatikh kai akribws o skopos ths einai na proaspizei to dhmosio symferon kai th diafaneia ston politiko kai oikonomiko bio. Apo monh ths ayth h Epitroph exei aytes tis armodiothtes. Apo kei kai pera, ean yparjei zhthma na teqei qema Ejetastikwn Epitropwn. Yparxei diadikasia systashs Ejetastikwn Epitropwn. Alla, to oti qeloyme na symballoyme sthn anadiamorfwsh ayths ths Epitrophs, me oysiastikes armodiothtes, nomizw oti to exoyme pei polles fores kai einai kai desmeysh mas.\nTZANETATOS: Qewreite oti o k. Karamanlhs, ws tews Prwqypoyrgos, ofeilei na dwsei ejhghseis gia thn epistolh ston Xristoforako;\nPETALWTHS: Ayto einai qema ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, h opoia qa ejetasei to qema ths SIEMENS.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Wednesday, 27 January 2010 - 16:24:34 UTC


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url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-09-30\nAqhna, 30 Septembrioy 2003\nShmera to prwi, kata th diarkeia thleoptikhs ekpomphs, o Grammateas ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias B. Meimarakhs, kathgorhse thn kybernhsh kai to Swma Diwjhs Oikonomikoy Egklhmatos (SDOE) gia elegxo se synaylia toy S. Spanoydakh, poy diorganwse kapoia etairia sth Qessalonikh.\nQelw na dwsw kapoia stoixeia gia to ti ginetai se aytes tis periptwseis, gia thn apokatastash ths alhqeias kai sth synexeia na kanw ena politiko sxolio. Apo tis 7/10/1998, me egkyklio toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn, thn opoia ypografei o tote G.G. X. Alamanos, entellontai oi efories na gnwstopoioyn sth kentrikh yphresia to SDOE antitypo ths katastashs gia ta qewrhqenta eisithria qeamatwn poy periodeyoyn. Etsi, gia kaqe synaylia diorganwnetai apo kapoia etairia, me opoiondhpote kallitexnh, synqeth h tragoydisth, ta eisithria qewroyntai apo thn armodia oikonomikh eforia ths perioxhs, h opoia einai staqera kai monima ypoxrewmenh (apo tis 7/10/1998) na enhmerwnei to SDOE gia na kanei toys prolhptikoys elegxoys. Pragmati, kata th diarkeia toy fetinoy kalokairioy, to SDOE, me bash tis eidopoihseis poy eixe parei apo tis efories, ekane elegxoys se synaylies stis opoies symmeteixan oi kallitexnes Garmph, Remos, Libieratos, Bandh, Toyrnas, Kotsiras, se synaylia sth Samoqrakh me diaforoys kallitexnes, kaqws kai se qeatrikh parastash me ton k. Kimoylh. Kai epishs, sth Qessalonikh, se synaylies twn Papakwnstantinoy, Nikolopoyloy, Makedona, Katsaroy me thn Kanellidoy, Kotsira kai allwn. Exoyn yparjei para polloi elegxoi kai -opws gnwrizete- kaneis den diamartyrhqhke. Kat` arxas, oi elegxoi den aforoyn toys kallitexnes, alla tis etairies poy diorganwnoyn tis synaylies, dioti apenanti stis efories einai ypeyqynes oi etairies kai oxi o kallitexnhs. Anaferw ola ayta ta onomata gia na tonistei oti einai koino to metro kai isxyei gia oloys. Den ginetai epilogh. Ara, efoson elegxqhkan oloi aytoi oi anqrwpoi kai den diamartyrhqhkan, den katalabainw giati den eprepe na elegxqei o k. Spanoydakhs, o opoios diamartyretai kai den gnwrizw to logo. Isws, qewrei oti elegxqhke, epeidh einai filos toy k. Karamanlh, opws dhlwse o idios. Lanqasmena.\nMexri edw den qa yphrxe qema, oyte qa to sxoliaza. Ektimw oti, otan o k. Meimarakhs kanei dhlwsh, thn kanei kai ws Grammateas ths N.D.. Den einai kapoios tyxaios, einai qesmiko proswpo. Ara, h N.D. exei tetoies antilhceis. To politiko erwthma poy tiqetai einai to ejhs: Zhtoyme na mas apanthsei h N.D.:\nPrwton, ean qewrei oti oi Ellhnes polites einai h oxi isoi enwpion toy nomoy. Deyteron, ean qewrei oti yparxoyn Ellhnes polites oi opoioi exoyn alla dikaiwmata apo toys ypoloipoys, epeidh einai filoi toy k. Karamanlh. Dioti einai h deyterh fora poy ginetai sxetikh syzhthsh. H prwth aforoyse tis etairies dhmoskophsewn. Tiqetai, loipon, to erwthma ean h N.D. apodexetai thn kata to Syntagma mas isothta twn politwn h an pisteyei oti kapoioi Ellhnes jexwrizoyn apo to synolo, me monadiko krithrio oti einai filoi toy k. Karamanlh, eite prokeitai gia etairies, eite gia synqetes, eite gia otidhpote allo. Perimenoyme apanthsh se ayto to erwthma. Dioti, ean h apanthsh einai "nai", tote katalabainete oti janagyrizoyme sto diaxwrismo twn Ellhnwn politwn, se katadikasmenes katastaseis toy parelqontos apo tis opoies fainetai oti h N.D. den exei jefygei akomh.\nTriton, ean ola ayta einai epikoinwniaka trik gia na dhlwqei se kapoioys poy qeloyn thn asydosia oti "qa katarghsoyme to SDOE" kai kleinoyn to mati apo th mia kai se kapoioys alloys poy qeloyn thn omhria kai toys aresei h pelateiakh sxesh oti "qa baloyme ta dika mas paidia" kai kleinoyn to mati apo thn allh, ean ayth einai h politikh taktikh ths N.D. gia tis ekloges, tote foboymaste oti odhgoymaste se aney prohgoymenoy piswgyrisma ths politikhs zwhs, odhgoymaste sto 19on aiwna, odhgoymaste se politikes taktikes gia tis opoies mono oi lejeis "krima" kai "ntroph" mporoyn na apodwsoyn.\nBITALHS: Apo xqes fainetai oti h Toyrkia, me thn apofash toy Anwtatoy Dikasthrioy gia to apotelesma twn eklogwn, mpainei se mia periodo astaqeias, qa th legame. Hdh, h E.E. ejefrase problhmatismo kai anhsyxia gia tis synepeies apo ayth thn apofash kai gia tis ejelijeis poy mporei na yparjoyn sthn Toyrkia. H ellhnikh kybernhsh pws antimetwpizei ayth thn katastash; Kai deyteron, ektimate oti opoiadhpote astaqeia sto eswteriko ths Toyrkias qa exei epiptwseis akomh kai sthn poreia proseggishs kai dialogoy poy yparxei sta ellhnotoyrkika kai to Kypriako;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, na tonisw oti opoiadhpote periptwsh astaqeias sth geitona xwra einai logiko na dhmioyrgei anhsyxia kai se mas kai se oloklhrh thn Eyrwph. Emeis qeloyme mia staqerh Toyrkia, mia anaptygmenh Toyrkia, mia Toyrkia me eyrwpaikh poreia. Kaqe periptwsh poy mporei na dhmioyrghsei synqhkes mh staqerothtas sth geitona, einai logiko na mas kanei na anhsyxoyme, toso emas, oso kai toys alloys Eyrwpaioys. As mh biastoyme na kanoyme genikoteres ektimhseis. Parakoloyqoyme thn katastash. Yparxoyn kai kapoies shmerines anafores. Oi syzhthseis poy ginontai metajy twn diplwmatwn proxwroyn. Den mporoyme na gnwrizoyme poy qa katalhjoyn, oyte na ekfrasoyme kapoia ektimhsh, ayth th stigmh. Omws, ejelissontai. Yparxoyn kapoies genikoteres prooptikes se sxesh me thn E.E., enw den yphrxan analoges prooptikes (toylaxiston me ta shmerina dedomena kai th stash toy k. Ntenktas) gia to Kypriako. Ola ayta synektimoyntai. En pash periptwsei, einai poly nwris gia na bgaloyme symperasmata kai na katalhjoyme se ektimhseis. Ekeino poy elpizoyme kai qeloyme na eyxhqoyme einai na yparjoyn synqhkes politikhs staqerothtas, wste na proxwrhsoyn oi syzhthseis aytes, na jananoijei to Kypriako kai bebaiws na antimetwpistei h eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias.\nKONTOPANOS: Milhsate ligo prin gia to ASEP kai eipate gia ta "dika mas ta paidia". Na sas ypenqymisw oti edw kai 15 hmeres o "Adesmeytos Typos" toy Mhtsh, paroysiazei mia seira apo eggrafa-ntokoymenta gia tis paratypies poy exoyn ginei sto ASEP, me onomata. Malista, qelw na sas pw oti sas kataggellei -oxi esas proswpika- alla tis meqodeyseis toy ASEP kai isws kai toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias, o Synhgoros toy Polith me eggrafo toy se para poly aysthrh glwssa. Ep@ aytoy, den eidame kamia eyaisqhsia apo kybernhtikhs pleyras, oyte apo pleyras ypoyrgeioy. H anakoinwsh poy esteile o Proedros toy ASEP sthn efhmerida qa th xarakthriza toylaxiston ws asteia kai kanonika qa eprepe hdh na exei epembei o eisaggeleas, epeidh milhsate gia dika mas paidia.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Qa sas parakaloysa, kat` arxas, na sebeste ton Proedro toy ASEP, o opoios exei epilegei apo th Boylh kai oxi apo thn kybernhsh kai na mh xarakthrizete etsi eykola kai me toso epiqetikoys xarakthrismoys tis anakoinwseis toy, ean ayto to katalaba kala.\nKONTOPANOS: Fantazomai oti exete parakoloyqhsei ta dhmosieymata, alla to na leei dyo fores oti exei ginei laqos...\nPRWTOPAPAS: Me sygxwreite, alla se ayth thn aiqoysa qa sas parakaloysa na apofeygete tetoioys xarakthrismoys. O rolos sas einai na rwtate. Mporei na mhn apodexqeite kaqoloy thn apanthsh moy kai mporei na thn kritikarete sthn efhmerida h to kanali sas kai mporei na diafwnhsete plhrws, alla edw ypoballete erwthseis kai dinoyme apanthseis. Den kanoyme politiko dialogo. Politiko dialogo kanoyme me th N.D. kai ta alla kommata.\nSe o,ti rwtate, apantoyme. Ean, loipon, erwthqw gia sygkekrimenh periptwsh, qa th dw kai qa apanthsw. Steilte moy, loipon, ayrio th sygkekrimenh erwthsh poy qelete kai egw qa cajw na brw sthn efhmerida thn pro 15 hmerwn sygkekrimenh periptwsh kai qa sas apanthsw.\nKONTOPANOS: Ena prwto sxolio nomizw oti qa mporoysame na exoyme.\nPRWTOPAPAS: To ASEP to exoyme perifroyrhsei kai sthrijei plhrws. Pisteyoyme sthn plhrh diafaneia kai ajiokratia poy prowqeitai sto dhmosio tomea. To ASEP einai mia katakthsh poy den qa epistecoyme oyte emeis, oyte o ellhnikos laos, na afaireqei. H N.D., enw gnwrizei oti den mporei na katarghsei to ASEP, proxwra me ``periergo'' tropo se antikatastash toy onomatos toy. Giati; Yparxei logos; Ean htan eilikrinhs den qa elege na allajei to onoma toy. Qa elege aplws oti, allazw kapoies diadikasies gia na ginoyn pio apotelesmatikes. Alla, den kanei ayto. Qelei na allajei kai to onoma. Den prokeitai profanws gia allagh onomatos, alla gia allagh domhs. Giati allazei to onoma kai olh th domh; Dioti qelei na dhmioyrghsei problhmata kai kaqysterhseis. H N.D. leei oti qa kanei diagwnismo gia olo to dhmosio tomea. Einai tetoia h polypoikilothta twn ptyxiwn, twn prosontwn kai twn gnwsewn poy apaitoyntai gia proslhceis, poy apokleietai na kalyfqoyn me eniaio diagwnismo. Den yparxei kamia periptwsh. H N.D. qa dhmioyrghsei terastia kaqysterhsh me thn allagh toy ASEP. Kaqysterhsh me toys diagwnismoys. Kai den einai dynato na mhn ginontai proslhceis, se ayto to diasthma. Kleinei, loipon, to mati gi` ayto to mesodiasthma sta ``dika mas paidia''. Mono poy toys phrame eidhsh, giati jeroyme na diabazoyme.\nKONTOPANOS: Se oles aytes tis kataggelies -giati den milame mono gia ena dhmosieyma, alla gia deka dhmosieymata kai me xartia- h kybernhsh qa parei metra h qa meinoyme sth qewria oti qa to doyme;\nPRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh synexws lambanei praktika metra.\nKANELLOPOYLOS: Akoysa shmera ton prwhn ypoyrgo k. Mpeno na xarakthrizei ta metra poy anakoinwse xqes h N.D. ws qetika kai malista eipe xarakthristika oti exoyn arwma oikoymenikothtas. Qa hqela na moy peite pws sxoliazete th dhlwsh toy k. Mpenoy. Ean kineitai ektos kybernhtikhs grammhs, giati akoysame esas kai alla stelexh na tis epikrinoyn kai ean yparxoyn diaforetikes ektimhseis sto kybernwn komma;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti o k. Mpenos den einai sthn kybernhsh.\nKANELLOPOYLOS: Eipa, prwhn ypoyrgos. Exei qhteysei sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai kata synepeia exei gnwsh toy qematos.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Nai, alla ayth th stigmh den einai melos ths kybernhshs, epomenws den exw kanena logo na krinw tis apoceis toy. Einai proswpikes apoceis toy k. Mpenoy.\nKANELLOPOYLOS: Den payei, omws, na einai ena shmantiko stelexos toy kybernwntos kommatos.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den afora emas kai th syzhthsh mas. Oydepote krinw apoceis boyleytwn. O k. Meimarakhs den einai enas aplos boyleyths poy eipe kapoy, kati, kapote. Einai qesmiko proswpo.\nKANELLOPOYLOS: H erwthsh einai sygkekrimenh: Pws sxoliazete th dhlwsh toy k. Mpenoy;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den exw kanena logo na th sxoliasw, giati den einai kybernhtiko stelexos. Oi apoceis toy k. Mpenoy desmeyoyn mono ton idio kai kanenan allo.\nSIDERHS: H kybernhsh fainetai oti epimenei na synerghsei se mia seira katarghshs epimeroys metrwn sth Diakybernhtikh. Poia einai ta qemata ``tampoy'', gia thn kybernhsh, poy den qa synainesei sthn katarghsh toys;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Ean den allajei rizika o shmerinos tropos lhchs apofasewn sthn E.E. -giati eimaste pleon 25 xwres- tote den qa yparxei E.E. Prepei na apodexqoyme oti qa exoyme allo tropo lhchs apofasewn. Polles protaseis poy periexontai sthn protash toy k. Baleri Ziskar nt` Esten einai qetikes.\nSIDERHS: H erwthsh moy eixe sxesh me ta qemata eqnikhs amynas kai asfaleias.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw stis protaseis toy k. Ziskar nt` Esten, polles apo tis opoies einai qetikes kai qa mporoyse na apotelesoyn bash syzhthshs.\nPEGKOS: Yparxoyn shmerina dhmosieymata symfwna me ta opoia h kybernhsh skeftetai na aposyrei toys astynomikoys apo th fylajh dhmosiwn proswpwn kai boyleytwn. Pote qa ginei ayto kai ean meta to xqesino mparaz epiqesewn me gkazakia se politikoys stoxoys, skeftetai na anaqewrhsei thn proqesh ayth;\nPRWTOPAPAS: To qema ejetazetai apo thn EL.AS., h opoia epanaqewrei to systhma fylajhs dhmosiwn proswpwn. Ayto einai swsto, giati otan briskesai se nea periodo ejetazeis ean prepei na parameinei ayto to systhma h na allajei. As perimenoyme tis apofaseis kai tis sxetikes eishghseis ths EL.AS.\nIWANNOY: Gia na katalabw, yparxei periptwsh na mhn yparxei kaqoloy asfaleia h na antikatastaqei;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Moy lete kati poy den gnwrizw.\nIWANNOY: Omws, lete oti ginontai kapoies syzhthseis. Pros poia kateyqynsh;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Plhroforhqhka apo thn EL.AS. oti epanejetazei to olo systhma prostasias dhmosiwn proswpwn.\nIWANNOY: Pros thn kateyqynsh ths katarghshs h ths antikatastashs;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Epanejetazetai gia na einai pio apotelesmatiko stis shmerines synqhkes. Den eimaste stis synqhkes poy eixame prin apo dyo xronia. H kyria Organwsh poy dhmioyrgoyse to zhthma ths tromokratias sthn Ellada, ayth th stigmh brisketai sth fylakh kai dikazetai. Ara, eimaste mprosta se nees synqhkes. Aytes oi synqhkes meletwntai. Den exei katalhjei h EL.AS., gi` ayto kai den mporw na desmeysw, ayth th stigmh, kanenan. Epishmainw, omws, gia na eimai eilikrinhs apenanti sas oti yparxei ejetash toy oloy qematos. Den jeroyme poia qa einai h telikh katalhjh kai ti qa eishghqei sthn politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs. Logiko einai, omws, na ginetai ayth h ejetash toy systhmatos pros ofelos oloy toy ellhnikoy laoy.\nIWANNOY: An katalabame kai to qema ths katarghshs den to apokleiete ayth th stigmh.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den milhsa gia katarghsh. Den einai dynato na paei se katarghsh. Oysiastika milame gia mia ejetash toy oloy systhmatos, wste na einai afenos apotelesmatiko, afeteroy na yparxei ejoikonomhsh astynomikwn dynamewn, prokeimenoy na profylajoyme ton aplo polith. Ayto den prokeitai na ginei se baros kapoiwn poy krinetai aparaithth h prostasia toys. Oi synqhkes exoyn allajei, den yparxei drash ths "17N". Exoyme ena neo skhniko, basei toy opoioy h EL.AS. kai oi arxes asfaleias ejetazoyn to olo systhma. To qewrw idiaitera qemito.\nKWNSTANTINIDHS: Enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004 eprepe na exoyn entaqei ta metra gia thn asfaleia kai oxi@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Prosejte poia einai h diafora: Pros to 2004 h asfaleia metaferetai se o,ti exei na kanei me toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Praktika, loipon, epeidh h Ellada exei sygkekrimenes dynatothtes -den einai aperioristes- h proteraiothta toy sxediasmoy kai ths drashs mas einai logiko na kateyqynetai, symfwna me tis yparxoyses synqhkes, toso sthn asfaleia twn politwn poy apotelei prwto kai kyrio kaqhkon mas, oso kai se ena allo qema, epishs ycisths proteraiothtas, to zhthma twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Den mporw na prodikasw ti qa ginei. Ola meletwntai, ejetazontai.\nMIXAHL: Wstoso, prokyptei to ejhs problhma: Me aformh kai th xqesinh apopeira me gkazakia enantion ths k. Panagiwtarea -h ekfrash toy Typoy einai mia apo tis basikes leitoyrgies ths koinwnias- pws mporeite na thn perifroyrhsete apo oloys aytoys toys polites, oi opoioi gia ton ena h ton allo logo qa qewrhsoyn oti qigontai apo otidhpote qewroyn oi idioi oti qigontai, me apotelesma na dhmioyrgeitai ena klima;\nPRWTOPAPAS: Me thn eykairia ayth qa hqela na katadikasw me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo oles aytes tis epiqeseis me gkazakia poy eginan kai na tonisw kai pros aytoys poy tis ypesthsan, alla kai pros olo ton ellhniko lao oti oi arxes asfaleias kanoyn to kaqhkon toys kai proxwroyn se oles tis anagkaies ereynes. Ola lambanontai ypoch. Oi armodies arxes poy ejetazoyn to olo zhthma qa apofanqoyn gia ta apotelesmata ths ereynas poy diejagoyn.\nTAKHS: Pantws, yphrjan dhlwseis boyleytwn to prwi sto Koinoboylio, oi synadelfoi sas boyleytes topoqethqhkan, legontas pws den qa hqelan, ean h kybernhsh telika parei kapoia apofash anaqewrhshs toy oloy systhmatos, na toys doqoyn froyroi h eidikoi astynomikoi poy to ypoyrgeio qa epilejei, dioti qeloyn na einai ths apolytoy empistosynhs toys. Eipan xarakthristika oti den qeloyn na exoyn dipla toys "korioys".\nPRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Ayta einai ejw apo th logikh mas.\nTAKHS: Synadelfoi sas to eipan ayto.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Mporei na to eipan synadelfoi moy, egw apantw pws ayta einai ejw apo th logikh ayths ths kybernhshs.\nSIDERHS: Einai gyrw stis 3.000 oi astynomikoi poy fylane dhmosia proswpa. Ta legomena dhmosia proswpa einai kai epixeirhmaties. Aytoi, synhqws, exoyn ta xrhmata na misqwsoyn oi idioi proswpiko poy qa toys fylaei. Giati, o aplos poliths me toys foroys toy na plhrwnei toys astynomikoys poy fylane to tade dhmosio proswpo gia na einai pio isos apo ton aplo polith;\nPRWTOPAPAS: H erwthsh sas den erxetai se antiqesh me thn apanthsh moy. Pisteyw oti exei kalyfqei.\nSIDERHS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean qa katarghqoyn.\nPRWTOPAPAS: Kai to diko sas skeptiko exei bash kai to skeptiko poy eqese o k. Mixahl prepei na ejetastei. Jekinhsame me bash to skeptiko poy ekfrasate eseis, alla den mporoyme na agnohsoyme oti yparxoyn kai orismena problhmata gia ta opoia ferei eyqynh kai h Politeia. Afhste mas na broyme th xrysh tomh, wste na epitelesoyme to kyrio kaqhkon mas gia swstes synqhkes asfaleias, oson afora toys Ellhnes polites kai fysika enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Mhn paragnwrizoyme ayto to megalo eqniko qema. Bebaiws, an apo ekei kai pera ektimhqei oti yparxoyn kai kapoies alles anagkes na eiste bebaioi oti den qa tis paragnwrisoyme. Afhste na oloklhrwqei ayth h doyleia poy ginetai apo tis armodies arxes asfaleias.\nKARGOYDH: Yparxoyn plhrofories oti me epistolh toy pros ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn o Amerikanos presbhs anoikta tassetai kata ths opoiasdhpote prwtoboylias stoys kolpoys ths E.E. gia aytonomh eyrwpaikh ejwterikh politikh kai amyna@\nPRWTOPAPAS: Qa epanelqw ayrio sto qema ayto. Perimenw kapoies apanthseis.\nSHMEIWSH: H ayrianh politikh enhmerwsh qa pragmatopoihqei stis 13.30.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Tuesday, 30 September 2003 - 13:05:13 UTC


url: = ``Aristera me pio oysiastikh paroysia sth Boylh''\nTo nomo Serrwn episkefqhke shmera o proedros toy Synaspismoy Rizospastikhs Aristeras Alekos Alabanos.\nSto plaisio ths episkechs toy parabreqhke se ektakth synedriash toy Dhmotikoy Symboylioy toy dhmoy Strymwna, sto Neo Skopo, opoy o dhmarxos Basilhs Ketsetzhs toy paroysiase ta problhmata toy dhmoy kai ta sxedia ths dhmotikhs arxhs. O Alekos Alabanos desmeythke pws qa parembei sto Koinoboylio gia thn idrysh biologikoy kaqarismoy sthn perioxh kai thn idrysh Kentroy Qerapeytikhs Ippasias, gia atoma me eidikes anagkes.\nSynanthqhke epishs me ekproswpoys twn Adesmeytwn Agrotikwn Syllogwn toy nomoy Serrwn oi opoioi toy paredwsan dyo ypomnhmata sta opoia ginetai anafora sta dikaiwmata twn agrotwn kai stis parembaseis kai ta anagkaia erga poy apaitoyntai, wste na parameinoyn oi neoi agrotes sto nomo. O proedros toy SYN dhlwse: " terma pia sta agrotodikeia, einai anagkaio na yparjei politikh gia toys agrotes".\nTo apogeyma se synenteyjh Typoy poy edwse stoys ekproswpoys twn topikwn meswn mazikhs enhmerwshs sto Nomarxiako Megaro Serrwn katadikase thn politikh ths kybernhshs sthn ypoqesh twn omologwn legontas pws ``apo thn prwth stigmh eprepe na ginei h dialeykansh toy skandaloy''.\nO proedros toy SYN anaferqhke kai sthn episkech Mpoys yposthrizontas oti o Amerikanos proedros den fernei dwra sta Balkania alla polloys tonoys dynamith kai ayto, opws eipe, fainetai apo tis qeseis toy enw oson afora thn onomasia ths PGDM tonise pws oi diapragmateyseis prepei na ginoyn mesw toy OHE.\nSe allo shmeio twn dhlwsewn toy eipe oti h Ellada erxetai prwth sthn EE se dapanes gia toys ejoplismoys kai teleytaia stis dapanes se paideia kai koinwnikh prostasia.\nSe erwthsh gia tis prosfates dhlwseis ths g.g. toy KKE Al. Paparhga kai tis sxeseis twn dyo kommatwn o k. Alabanos apanthse oti den ton endiaferei na apanthsei sthn k. Paparhga kai prosqese oti h aristera toy parelqontos einai antipaqhtikh kai apwqhtikh gia th nea genia. Se allh erwthsh gia ton xrono dienergeias twn eklogwn apanthse pws den einai ayto to qema alla to qema einai oti to systhma diakybernhshs exei traymatistei opote einai shmantiko oi ekloges na bgaloyn mia Aristera me pio oysiastikh paroysia mesa sto Koinoboylio.\nSe erwthsh gia ta sxolia poy ton emfanizoyn ws ``ton pio ploysio boyleyth toy ellhnikoy koinoboylioy`` o proedros toy SYN apanthse: ``Proerxomai apo mia astikh oikogeneia me megalh oikonomikh epifaneia. To sigoyro einai oti qa bgw apo thn politikh me ligoteres oikonomikes dynatothtes giati epeleja to dromo ths aristeras. Pantws aisqanomai hsyxh th syneidhsh moy''.\nTo apogeyma o proedros toy SYN paresth se ektakth synedriash toy Nomarxiakh Symboylioy opoy toy egine enhmerwsh gia thn poreia alla kai ta problhmata poy antimetwpizei o nomos enw to brady milhse se anoixth sygkentrwsh sthn plateia Eleyqerias ths polhs twn Serrwn.\nana2html v2.01 run on Wednesday, 13 June 2007 - 18:30:27 UTC


url: = EKPROSWPOS - KYPRIAKO - PERTEB - NEA YORKH\n REN - KYPRIAKH DHMOKRATIA\n YPEJ - MOSXA - EPAFES\nH episkech toy symboyloy toy hgeth ths toyrkokypriakhs koinothtas hgeth Mexmet Ali Talat, Rasit Perteb, sthn edra twn HE entassetai sto plaisio ths epixeirhshs ths toyrkikhs pleyras na dikaiologhsei thn adikaiologhth stash ths sto qema ths mh symmorfwshs ths me th diadikasia ths symfwnias ths 8hs Ioylioy, dhlwse o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos Xristodoylos Pasiardhs.\n``Einai profanes oti genika h toyrkikh pleyra epixeirei twra na dikaiologhsei thn adikaiologhth stash ths sto qema ths mh symmorfwshs ths me th diadikasia ths symfwnias ths 8hs Ioylioy. Sta plaisia ayths ths epixeirhshs entassetai kai h episkech toy k. Perteb sthn edra twn HE'', prosqese.\nEipe akoma pws ``Den gnwrizoyme poia dikaiologhtika kataskeyase h toyrkikh pleyra gia thn apo meroys ths anairesh twn symfwnhqentwn''.\n``Opoia omws kai osa kai ean einai ayta ta texnhta dikaiologhtika qa einai ejairetika dyskolo gia ton k. Perteb kai genika gia thn toyrkikh pleyra na peisei oti h ypografh toy k. Talat se kaqe selida ths symfwnias ths 8hs Ioylioy den shmainei aparaithta kai proqesh efarmoghs twn symfwnhqentwn'', epeshmane.\nAnaforika me th dhlwsh toy k. Perteb gia epikeimenh synanthsh toy me ton Dieyqynth toy Diplwmatikoy Grafeioy toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias Taso Tziwnh, o k. Pasiardhs eipe pws mexri stigmhs den exei dieyqethqei opoiadhpote synanthsh twn ekproswpwn twn hgetwn twn dyo koinothtwn.\n``H dikh mas pleyra den exei problhma na synantatai me thn allh pleyra kai na syzhtei opoiodhpote qema afora sthn prowqhsh efarmoghs ths symfwnias ths 8hs Ioylioy. Arneitai omws na syzhthsei qemata poy synistoyn ektroph apo ayth th symfwnia sthn ylopoihsh ths opoias emmenei kai h dieqnhs koinothta'', tonise o Ekproswpos.\nSe erwthsh an anamenontai pieseis apo th Rwsia pros thn Toyrkia dedomenoy oti o YPEJ Giwrgos Lillhkas brisketai sth Mosxa gia epafes, o Ekproswpos eipe pws ``ej oswn gnwrizei o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn den metebh sth Mosxa gia na peisei toys Rwsoys na askhsoyn pieseis. Ayto epafietai sthn idia th Mosxa''.\nErwthqeis an programmatizetai opoiadhpote episkech toy Proedroy Papadopoyloy sthn Aqhna gia diaboyleyseis me thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, ypo to fws kai ths arnhshs ths toyrkikhs pleyras gia efarmogh ths symfwnias ths 8hs Ioylioy, o Ekproswpos eipe pws den yparxei ayth th stigmh opoiadhpote programmatismenh episkech toy Proedroy sthn Aqhna.\nYpenqymise wstoso pws o Proedros ths Dhmokratias brisketai se synexh epafh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Elladas.\nH Eyrwpaikh Enwsh anagnwrizei mono thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia ws ypokeimenh sto dieqnes dikaio kai ws ek toytoy to plhres, kyriarxiko ths dikaiwma na synaptei dimereis symfwnies me alles xwres, ypogrammizei o Epitropos armodios gia qemata Dieyrynshs, Oli Ren, apantwntas se erwthsh toy Eyrwboyleyth toy Synaspismoy Dhmhtrh Papadhmoylh.\nO k. Ren tonizei parallhla thn anagkh gia amesh epanenarjh twn diapragmateysewn ypo thn aigida twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn me skopo th synolikh dieyqethsh toy Kypriakoy kai shmeiwnei oti h Toyrkia anamenetai na yioqethsei kai na efarmosei, meta thn prosxwrhsh ths sthn EE, th Symbash gia to Dikaio ths Qalassas.\nTrihmerh episkech ergasias pragmatopoiei sth rwsikh prwteyoysa o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Lillhkas, o opoios qa exei thn Trith synanthseis me to Rwso omologo toy Sergkei Labrof kai alloys ajiwmatoyxoys, me toys opoioys qa syzhthsei, metajy allwn qematwn, kai to Kypriako.\nSymfwna me ton epishmo ekproswpo toy rwsikoy YPEJ Mixahl Kaminin, o opoios ekane sxetikes dhlwseis se rwsika MME, ``oi rwso-kypriakes sxeseis exoyn paradosiaka filiko xarakthra, gegonos sto opoio syntelei se shmantiko baqmo h symptwsh h eggythta qesewn ws pros ta basika dieqnh problhmata, h proshlwsh ths Rwsias sthn taxyterh epiteyjh dikaihs, biwsimhs kai synolikhs dieyqethshs toy kypriakoy problhmatos, symfwnhs me ta chfismata toy OHE gia thn Kypro kai sth bash ths eqeloysias symfwnias apo pleyras twn dyo kypriakwn koinothtwn''.\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Tuesday, 10 April 2007 - 13:29:19 UTC


url: = O Proedros dexqhke paidia egklwbismenwn\n Me sxediasmo h ekmetalleysh fysikoy ploytoy sthn AOZ\n Yp. Oik: Jenoi ependytes epedeijan endiaferon\n``Ws apotelesma ths elleichs aitiwdoys synafeias metajy ths ameleias poy toys katalogisqhke kai to dystyxhma``, eipe o k. Solomwnidhs, diabazontas thn apofash ths pleiochfias twn Dikastwn toy Kakoyrgiodikeioy, ``qewroyme oti den apaiteitai syzhthsh, estw kai ston epitrepto baqmo poy mporei na ginei, sto stadio ayto, gia thn aitia ths ptwshs toy aeroplanoy``.\nTo Kakoyrgiodikeio bebaiws, opws anefere o k. Solomwnidhs, exei katagracei ``th martyria poy aforoyse to qema ayto, kaqws kai tis qeseis tis opoies h Yperaspish ypebale stoys martyres``.\n``Peran aytoy``, opws ekrine to Kakoyrgiodikeio, ``to stadio ayto den prosferetai oyte gia kriseis oyte kyriws gia symperasmata kai eyrhmata, afoy ta aitia toy dystyxhmatos einai stoixeio adiaforo`` kai ``en pash periptwsei, h elleich aitiwdoys synafeias aposyndeei entelws toys kathgoroymenoys me to dystyxhma``.\nOi dyo Dikastes ekrinan epishs oti, epeidh hgerqhsan diafora zhthmata apo toys dikhgoroys yperaspishs, zhthmata poy aptontai toy dikaioy ths dikhs, lambanomenhs yp` och kai ths apofashs twn, den apaiteitai na asxolhqoyn me ayta.\n``Ypo to fws twn pio panw``, dhlwse o k. Solomwnidhs, ``katalhgoyme, xwris endoiasmo, oti den exei apodeixqei ek prwths ocews ypoqesh enantion olwn twn kathgoroymenwn, se oles tis kathgories poy antimetwpizoyn kai, ws ek toytoy, oloi oi kathgoroymenoi aqwwnontai kai apallassontai se oles tis kathgories``.\nOi kathgoroymenoi, opws anefere o k. Sanths, qa prepei na apologhqoyn gia kaqe mia ekastos kathgoria kai den mporei na ginei apodekth h enstash ths Yperaspishs oti den apodeixqhkan ta systatika stoixeia twn kathgoriwn, oti yparxei antifatikh martyria epi ths opoias den mporei na sthrixqei to Dikasthrio kai oti den qa prepei na klhqoyn se apologia kai kata synepeia na aqwwqoyn kata to stadio ayto.\nThn kathgoroysa Arxh ekproswpoyse h Anwterh Dikhgoros ths Dhmokratias Elena Zaxariadoy - Gewrgiadoy, enw dikhgoroi yperaspishs hsan oi Polys Polybioy kai Giwrgos Papaiwannoy, kaqws kai o ek twn kathgoroymenwn arxipilotos Gianko Stoimenof, o opoios ekproswpoyse sth dikh ton eayto toy.\nOi pente kathgoroymenoi antimetwpizan synolika 1.190 kathgories, apo 238 kathgories o kaqe enas, me shmantikoteres dyo ek twn kathgoriwn poy aforoyn ton kaqe kathgoroymeno kai anaferontai sthn proklhsh toy qanatoy 119 epibatwn ths pthshs ths ``Hlios``, logw paraleichs toy kaqe kathgoroymenoy na parempodisei thn plohghsh toy aeroskafoys apo aneparkes h kai akatallhlo plhrwma qalamoy diakybernhshs (kybernhth kai sygkybernhth) me apotelesma h pthsh na mhn htan asfalhs.\nPatriwtiko stis meres mas einai ekeino poy bazei terma sta deina twn anqrwpwn, E/k kai T/k, kai aposkopei sto na termatistoyn o epoikismos, h katoxh kai h dixotomhsh ths patridas, anefere o Proedros ths Dhmokratias, Dhmhtrhs Xristofias. O Proedros, mazi me th syzygo toy Elsh ypodexthkan sto Proedriko paidia egklwbismenwn, sta opoia pareqesan geyma. Apeyqynomenos sta paidia, o Proedros Xristofias eipe oti ``dystyxws, qa poyme kalwsorisate kai fetos ws egklwbismenoi''. Makari, prosqese, na eixe ftasei h wra poy qa mporoysame na sas poyme oti epace to martyrio kai ta deina mas kai synantiomaste se ayto to xwro, sto spiti toy laoy, sto plaisio mias epanenwmenhs patridas. ``Dystyxws, akoma den mporoyme na to poyme'', anefere.\nAnaferomenos stis prospaqeies epilyshs toy Kypriakoy, o Proedros diabebaiwse oti oi prospaqeies synexizontai kai entatikopoioyntai. ``Poly entima prospaqoyme na lysoyme to problhma, epanenwnontas thn patrida kai to lao mas'', eipe kai prosqese oti oso exoyme ayth thn eyqynh, ``qa synexisoyme me pollh synepeia na agwnizomaste''. Symplhrwse oti yparxei kati pio oysiastiko apo ta patriwtika synqhmata kai ayto, prosqese, einai ta basana twn anqrwpwn. Opws eipe, patriwtiko stis meres mas kai ypo tis dedomenes synqhkes einai ekeino, to opoio, sto telos ths hmeras, qa termatisei ta deina twn anqrwpwn, E/k kai T/k kai qa balei telos ston epoikismo - poy dhlwse oti einai ejontwtikos prwta apo ola gia toys T/k, alla kai gia oloklhro to lao - kai thn katoxh.\nAnefere akomh oti h katoxh einai h aitia toy epoikismoy kai twn problhmatwn kai twn deinwn twn egklwbismenwn, kaqws kai h aitia ths nte fakto, epi toy edafoys, dixotomhshs ths patridas.\nDiabebaiwse, parallhla, ta paidia oti h agaph toy pros ayta jexeilizei kai einai atofia kai agnh, enw prosqese oti einai xara toy na blepei kaqe xrono na erxontai olo kai perissotera paidia apo thn Karpasia sto Proedriko. Eipe epishs oti ta qewrei san na einai dika toy paidia h eggonia kai symplhrwse oti o idios kai h syzygos toy eniwsan ti shmainei agaph me ta eggonia toys.\nH Kypriakh Dhmokratia proxwrei me bash to diko ths sxediasmo sthn ajiopoihsh twn endexomenwn koitasmatwn fysikoy aerioy sthn Apokleistikh Oikonomikh ths Zwnhs kai gnwmona thn ejyphrethsh twn symferontwn ths Kyproy kai ths eyryterhs eyrwpaikhs oikogeneias, dhlwse h Ypoyrgos Emporioy, Biomhxanias kai Toyrismoy Prajoyla Antwniadoy. Se o,ti afora th gewtrhsh sto oikopedo 12, h k. Antwniadoy anefere oti h gewtrhsh exei ftasei sto stoxeyomeno baqos kai ayth th stigmh pragmatopoioyntai elegxoi ajiologhshs, enw gia to deytero gyro twn adeiodothsewn sthn AOZ h k. Antwniadoy eipe oti etoimazontai ta eggrafa gia th dhmosieysh, me epikentrwsh sto Protypo Symbolaio Analogikoy Katamerismoy.\nApantwntas se erwthseis dhmosiografwn sxetika me tis gewtrhseis sto Oikopedo 12, h Ypoyrgos Emporioy afoy anefere oti katanoei ``thn prosdokia kai thn anypomonhsia kai twn MME kai toy kosmoy'', epeshmane oti ``den mporoyme na dhmioyrgoyme koitasmata me thn arqrografia''. ``Qa gnwrizoyme sta sigoyra otan oloklhrwqoyn kai oi ergasies ajiologhshs'', eipe prosqetontas oti ayto poy mporei na eipwqei ayth th stigmh einai oti ``h gewtrhsh exei ftasei sto stoxeyomeno baqos kai ayth th stigmh pragmatopoioyntai elegxoi ajiologhshs''.\n``Den yparxei kati allo sygkekrimeno ayth th stigmh. Lypoymai poy dhmosieyontai diaforoi ariqmoi sta Mesa, dhmioyrgwntas entypwseis'', synexise h k. Antwniadoy, systhnontas ``akomh liges meres ypomonh''. Eixame pei oti qa eixame ta prwta apotelesmata gyrw sta mesa toy Dekembrh.\nH Ypoyrgos anefere epishs oti oi diafores mikrokaqysterhseis poy eixan dhmioyrghqei kata th diarkeia twn triwn mhnwn ths gewtrhshs aqroisan mia ebdomada kaqysterhshs. ``Anamenoyme gyrw sta Xristoygenna na exoyme kati pio sygkekrimeno na poyme'', prosqese.\nTo Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn ejetazei me pollh sobarothta to endiaferon poy epedeijan jenoi ependytes ej anatolwn kai ek dysmwn kai para poly syntoma qa epanelqei me paromoia h poly megalyteroy eyroys erga pagkypria, apo thn ependysh poy qa kanei to Katar, sth Leykwsia, tonise o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn Kikhs Kazamias, prosqetontas oti yphrjan protaseis kai apo xwres ``peran toy Atlantikoy``.\nSe dhlwseis sto periqwrio episkechs toy sto Stratopedo ``A. Panagidh``, opoy enhmerwqhke apo ton Anaplhrwth Geniko Dieyqynth toy Ypoyrgeioy Sygkoinwniwn kai Dieyqynth toy Tmhmatos Dhmosiwn Ergwn Aleko Mixahlidh gia tis ergasies poy qa pragmatopoihqoyn gia thn ylopoihsh ths ependyshs me to Katar, o k. Kazamias eipe oti qewrhse ``skopimo na episkefqoyme to xwro kai na kanoyme oysiastika aytocia meta thn paradosh twn kleidiwn toy xwroy apo to Ypoyrgeio Amynas sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn``, enw diabebaiwse oti ``h ependysh toy Katar (ycoys 50 ekatommyriwn eyrw) qa ginei``.\n``Einai kai mia desmeysh mas pros toys synergates mas apo to Katar etsi poy prin apo to telos toy xronoy kai me th bohqeia twn leitoyrgwn twn Dhmosiwn Ergwn na ginei mia apotypwsh toy xwroy kai ena xronodiagramma sto opoio na kaqorizontai oi amesws epomenes kinhseis mas, poy qa einai oi anagkaies katedafiseis ktiriwn``, prosqese.\n``Qeloyme na kleisoyme to 2011 me megalyterh aisiodojia apo o,ti eixame pro ejamhnoy kai ayto einai ena ergo to opoio entassetai para poly eykola sta qemata anaptyjhs poy einai to teleytaio shmeio toy triptyxoy me to opoio asxoleito h Kybernhsh (to prwto htan ta metra poy katateqhkan ypo morfh 13 kai pleon nomoqethmatwn poy sxedon omofwna egkriqhkan apo th Boylh, to deytero htan o proypologismos poy epishs yperchfisthke estw kai pleiochfika kai o tritos tomeas einai o tomeas ths anaptyjhs)``, eipe o k. Kazamias.\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Wednesday, 21 December 2011 - 18:29:16 UTC


url: =Antôninos, basileus Rhômaiôn, ho Sebêrou, pros tois allois kakois kai tais miaiphoniais kai hoi stratiôtai tou biazesthai kai harpazein labontes exousian ouketi kat' ouden diekrinonto. toiauta de prattôn hupo te tôn ergôn elaunomenos kai pros tên en polei diatribên apechthôs echôn apedêmei tês Rhômês, hôs dê kai ta stratopeda dioikêsôn kai ta ethnê epopsomenos. epei de ton Istron katelabe kai tous ekeise Germanous ephilopoiêsato, hôs kai summachous par' autôn labein kai tou sômatos phrourous kai tais phoresiais autôn chrêsthai. houtô te kai hupo tôn barbarôn kai hupo tôn stratiôtôn êgapato, koinos ôn pros hapantas, hôs sustratiôtês mallon ê basileus par' autôn legomenos. epeidê de kai es tên Makedonian aphiketo, Alexandron heauton ônomasen. ekeithen te es Pergamon paragegone kai epi ton Achilleôs taphon, kai stephanois kosmêsas kai anthesi ton Achillea emimeito. kai dia tês Asias kai tôn allôn ethnôn eis Antiocheian aphiketo kai diatripsas chronon tina epi tên Alexandreian estelleto, prophasin poioumenos pothein tên Alexandrou polin. hôs de esêlasen en autêi sun panti tôi stratôi, hupedechthê para tôn Alexandreôn hôs oupô tis basileôn proteron. kai elthôn es to Alexandrou mnêma tên te chlamuda, hên ephorei, kai ton daktulion kai tên zônên kai ei ti poluteles perielomenos epethêke têi ekeinou sorôi. ho de dêmos echairen, ouk eidôs tên toutou lanthanousan gnômên. egnô gar, hoti polla es auton te kai tên mêtera apeskôpsan. dia de programmatos tên neolaian eis ti pedion keleuei sunelthein, phêsas eis tên Alexandrou timên phalanga sustêsasthai. hoi de sunêlthon agathais elpisi. stichêdon de hestôtas idôn autos men exêlthen, epaphêke de tous stratiôtas: kai pantas sunekopsan. tosoutos de egeneto phonos, hôste ton Neilon phoinichthênai hapanta. hoti Sebêros kai panu pasi tois es aretên teinousi kai kata to sôma kai kata psuchên êskêse ton Antôninon, hôste kai autokratora êdê onta, kai didaskalois suneinai kai to polu tês hêmeras philosophein. exêraloiphei te kai hippeue kai es n# kai ps# stadious: kai proseti kai nêchesthai kai en kludôni êskeito. ho de ek men toutôn tropon tina errôsthê: tês de dê paideuseôs, hôs oude tounoma autês pôpote akêkoôs epelatheto. ou mentoi kai kakorrêmôn ê kakognômôn ên: alla kai suniei polla oxutata kai ephrazen hetoimotata. têi te gar exousiai kai têi propeteiai tôi panth' homoiôs ta proïstamena hoi aperiskeptôs eklalein, kai tôi mêdeni autôn ekphainein aischunesthai, epituchiai tini pollakis periepipten. hoti Antôninos ho basileus aristos ên kai malista Noumai kata to tês hêgemonias homoiotropon axios paraballesthai, kathaper dê Rhômulôi Traïanos ôphthê paraplêsios. ton te gar idiôtên ho Antôninos arista kai entimotata dietelese bion kai kata tên hêgemonian ameinôn edoxen einai kai sôphronesteros, oudeni trachus oude phortikos, alla pros hapantas chrêstos te kai êpios ôn. en ge mên tois polemikois apo tou dikaiou mallon ê tou kerdaleou doxan thêrômenos phulattein sôious eiper eis megethos ekpherein tous tês archês eginôsken andras, hôs eni malista pleistên tou dikaiou poioumenos epimeleian. tais tôn dêmosiôn ephistas dioikêsesi, tous men agathous tên hêgemonian tais par' autou timais ameibomenos, tous ge mên phaulous dicha tinos trachutêtos tôn koinôn apelaunôn pragmatôn. ouk oun hupo tôn oikeiôn monôn, all' êdê kai pros tôn allophulôn ethaumazeto, hôs tôn prosoikôn tinas barbarôn ta hopla katatithemenous epitrepontas tôi basilei tas dikas dialuesthai tais ekeinou psêphois. autos de para ton idiôtên bion polu ti plêthos chrêmatôn kektêmenos, epeidê parêlthen eis tên hêgemonian, tên men heautou periousian eis te tôn stratiôtôn kai tôn philôn apanalôse dôreas, tôn de dêmosiôn thêsaurôn plêthos pantodapôn apelipe chrêmatôn, tên te tou Eusebous epiklêsin ek tou êthous prôtos apênenkato. hoti Antônios Satorninos, epirrêtos kai bdeluros, para Ouespasianou es tên boulên enegraphê, Ouespasianou sophisamenou geloiotata touto. axiôsei gar auton periebale kakiai dous akerdes men, semnon de homôs tode athlon.