url: =Athens News Agency: News in Greek, 05-01-27\n Megalh diadhlwsh sto Porto Alegkre kata toy Tzortz Mpoys kai ths pagkosmiopoihshs\n Meiwqhkan ta rantza sta nosokomeia, symfwna me stoixeia poy paroysiase o N. Kaklamanhs\n Thn hgesia toy Areioy Pagoy episkefqhke o yp.Dikaiosynhs, A.Papalhgoyras\n Roysopoylos: Na teqoyn periorismoi sthn polyqesia twn dhmosiografwn sto dhmosio tomea\n Shmantiko probadisma ston K. Karamanlh enanti toy G. Papandreoy, dinei dhmoskophsh ths VPR-C\n 24-wro apokleismo twn Tempwn, apo tis 10 to prwi ths Paraskeyhs, apofasisan oi bambakoparagwgoi\nXiliades anqrwpoi diadhlwsan, xqes Tetarth, sto Porto Alegkre ths Brazilias, diamartyromenoi gia thn politikh toy Amerikanoy proedroy Tzortz Mpoys, ton polemo sto Irak kai thn pagkosmiopoihsh, me thn eykairia ths diorganwshs toy pemptoy Pagkosmioy Koinwnikoy Foroym.\nH astynomia ektima oti sth diadhlwsh symmeteixan peripoy 200.000 atoma.\nOi diadhlwtes jekinhsan apo ennea diaforetika shmeia kai synanthqhkan sth lewforo Mporxes nte Menteiros, enan apo toys kentrikoys dromoys toy Porto Alegkre. Sto teleytaio kommati ths poreias epikefalhs teqhke mia omada Afrikanwn ekproswpwn poy kratoysan ena pano me thn epigrafh: "Koinwniko Foroym sthn Afrikh to 2007".\nTo Pagkosmio Koinwniko Foroym organwnetai ws apanthsh sto ethsio Pagkosmio Oikonomiko Foroym toy Ntabos kai stoxos toy einai na doqei megalyterh emfash stis ftwxes kai tis anaptyssomenes xwres. To epomeno Pagkosmio Oikonomiko Foroym qa ginei taytoxrona se diafores poleis ths Amerikhs, ths Asias kai ths Afrikhs, enw to 2007 qa pragmatopoihqei se mia perioxh, piqanotata se kapoia afrikanikh polh.\nArgotera shmera, qa doqei mia synaylia sthn opoia qa symmetasxei kai o ypoyrgos Politismoy ths Brazilias, Zilmperto Zil.\nApo to neo systhma efhmeriwn, poy efarmozei pilotika to ypoyrgeio Ygeias, prokyptei meiwsh twn rantzwn sta megala nosokomeia ths prwteyoysas se pososta poy aggizoyn to 90%. symfwna me ta stoixeia poy edwse sth dhmosiothta o ypoyrgos Ygeias, Nikhtas Kaklamanhs.\nHdh, to ypoyrgeio Ygeias, me egkyklio toy, zhta na anaprosarmostei to neo systhma efhmeriwn wste na beltiwqoyn kai orismena sxedia efhmeriwn ta opoia den apedwsan sthn prajh, kaqws ta nosokomeia poy symmeteixan den mporoysan na efhmereyoyn apotelesmatika thn idia hmera.\nO k. Kaklamanhs afhse na ennohqei oti mpainoyn sto stoxastro pleon toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias oi dieyqyntes twn klinikwn poy anaptyssoyn pelateiakes sxeseis me toys asqeneis kai eyqynontai ws ena baqmo gia thn emfanish twn rantzwn, alla kai allwn parenergeiwn poy dysxerainoyn thn periqalch twn politwn.\nSe synexeia twn oswn eixe pei o ypoyrgos meta thn aifnidiastikh toy episkech sto Laiko Nosokomeio gia orismenoys giatroys poy den qeloyn na proxwrhsei to systhma efhmeriwn, ejhghse oti den einai mono ta rantza poy emfanizontai me th stash toys, alla endexomenws kai oi megales listes anamonhs oswn asqenwn noshleyontai sta nosokomeia gia na xeiroyrghqoyn.\nEndeiktika anaferqhke sta paradeigma asqenwn me karkino kai khlh opoy apaitoyntai toylaxiston 15 hmeres noshleias prin ginei h epembash. Yphrje, eipe, h skech apo to ypoyrgeio Ygeias oti qa mporoyse na ekdoqei mia egkyklios poy na problepei oti h epibarynsh twn asqenwn apo thn epipleon noshleia toys qa epibarynei sto ejhs th dioikhsh toy nosokomeioy kai endexomenws kai toys dieyqyntes twn klinikwn. Omws, o ypoyrgos Ygeias tonise oti ayto einai mia skech poy den yioqeteitai pros to paron.\nOson afora to megalo problhma poy yparxei me ta krebatia entatikhs qerapeias, o k. Kaklamanhs anakoinwse th synergasia me to nosokomeio "Errikos Ntynan" apo to opoio qa noikiazontai 30 klines gia na antimetwpizontai ta ektakta peristatika poy den briskoyn krebati entatikhs qerapeias se dhmosio nosokomeio.\nMalista, ejetazetai h epektash toy metroy kai se alles klines genikhs noshleias poy qa mporoysan na noikiastoyn apo to "Errikos Ntynan".\nHdh, apo to ypoyrgeio Ygeias opws egine gnwsto ekdoqhke egkyklios poy kaqorizei oti oles oi eisagwges asqenwn qa ginontai sto ejhs me thn eyqynh toy grafeioy kinhsews kai h eyqynh gia tis taktikes eisagwges qa barainei th dioikhsh toy nosokomeioy kai oxi toys dieyqyntes twn klinikwn.\nTon proedro kai eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy G. Kappo kai D. Lino antistoixa, ton proistameno ths epiqewrhshs dikasthriwn, antiproedro toy Areioy Pagoy P. Kakkalh kai toys epiqewrhtes twn dikasthriwn, episkefqhke shmera to prwi o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs Anastashs Papalhgoyras, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqei epi ths poreias twn ereynwn gia ta paradikastika kyklwmata.\nEjerxomenos toy dikastikoy Megaroy o k. Papalhgoyras anefere oti enhmerwqhke gia thn apotelesmatikothta twn metrwn poy elabe h idia h dikaiosynh gia thn antimetwpish ths diafqoras sto xwro ths. Akoma symfwna me osa eipe o k. Papalhgoyras, me toys dikastikoys leitoyrgoys syzhthse gia tis epiptwseis toy oloy klimatos poy exei dhmioyrghqei sthn ellhnikh koinwnia kai pws einai dynaton na ejaleifqei kaqe skia panw apo to swma twn Ellhnwn dikastwn, poy sth megalh toys pleiochfia xarakthrizontai apo hqos kai akeraiothta.\nO ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs epishmane oti h politeia qa proxwrhsei amesa se aysthra nomoqetika metra, wste na antimetwpistoyn ta noshra fainomena kai na apokatastaqei apolytws h empistosynh toy polith stoys dikastes.\nOi arxes poy qa prepei na diepoyn sto ejhs tis epaggelmatikes sxeseis metajy twn dhmosiografwn kai toy dhmosioy tomea, alla kai qemata sxetika me thn efarmogh toy kwdika dhmosiografikhs deontologias, teqhkan sto trapezi toy dialogoy metajy twn ekproswpwn twn politikwn kommatwn kai twn syndikalistikwn enwsewn twn dhmosiografwn, oi opoioi antapokriqhkan sthn prosklhsh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, Qodwroy Roysopoyloy.\nSthn topoqethsh toy, o k. Roysopoylos anefere oti to megalo zhtoymeno einai h qespish arxwn kai kanonwn tis opoies kaqe kybernhsh ofeilei na akoloyqei. O k. Roysopoylos taxqhke yper ths parallhlhs enasxolhshs dhmosiografoy se qeseis kaqara dhmosiografikes, alla eipe oti qa prepei na teqoyn periorismoi sthn polyqesia sto dhmosio tomea.\nAnefere epishs oti qa prepei oloi na sthrijoyn thn prwtoboylia twn Enwsewn Syntaktwn gia thn katagrafh kanonwn deontologias, parexontas stis Enwseis tis dynatothtes poy qa tis bohqhsoyn na diapistwsoyn - ws qematofylakes ths dhmosiografikhs deontologias - an kapoia melh toys parabainoyn aytoys toys kanones.\nDieykrinise oti h prwtoboylia toy den exei stoxo oyte th daimonopoihsh toy qematos, oyte to "kynhgi magisswn". Sto qema poy proekyce sxetika me aporrhtes dapanes poy sxetizontai me dhmosiografoys o k. Roysopoylos dhlwse kathgorhmatika oti den diatiqentai tetoies dapanes apo th shmerinh kybernhsh kai opws pisteyei to idio isxyei kai gia tis prohgoymenes kybernhseis.\nSto zhthma ths dhmosiopoihshs twn onomatwn twn dhmosiografwn oi opoioi ergazontai sto dhmosio kai eyrytero dhmosio tomea, o k. Roysopoylos jekaqarise oti to nomiko plaisio epitrepei se opoion exei ennomo symferon na zhthsei aytes tis listes kai na toy paradoqoyn.\nApo tis piqanes ryqmiseis sto qema ths ergasias twn dhmosiografwn sto dhmosio kai eyrytero dhmosio tomea, o k. Roysopoylos ekane ejairesh gia toys dhmosiografoys oi opoioi ergazontai sthn kratikh thleorash kai sta kratika praktoreia eidhsewn.\nTis qeseis toy kommatos ths ND kwdikopoihse o Qeodwros Kasimhs legontas oti qa prepei na apagoreyqei h polyapasxolhsh twn dhmosiografwn sto dhmosio tomea. Epishs na antimetwpistei to problhma me tis argomisqies kai telos, oi listes me ta onomata twn dhmosiografwn poy ergazontai sto dhmosio tomea na doqoyn stis Enwseis twn dhmosiografwn gia na xeiristoyn ekeines to zhthma.\nTo PASOK ekproswphsan oi kyrioi Thlemaxos Xythrhs kai Nikos Aqanasakhs. Den diafwnhsan me thn anagkh na kaqoristoyn oi proypoqeseis kai ta asymbibasta, wstoso epiteqhkan sthn kybernhsh kai ston k. Qodwro Roysopoylo gia thn politikh epilogh na anoijei sthn paroysa stigmh ena tetoio qema.\nO k. Xythrhs anefere oti oles aytes tis meres oi dhmosiografoi briskontai ypo kathgoria me aformh thn topoqethsh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy sth Boylh oti yparxoyn dhmosiografoi poy "ta pianoyn". Shmera prosqese o k. Xythrhs, oi kathgories aytes metatrepontai se dhmosia syzhthsh. Oi dhmosiografoi, katelhje, qa prepei na ryqmisoyn ta toy oikoy toys.\nO Nikos Aqanasakhs eqese to erwthma an h kybernhsh emfanizetai ws prostaths ths eleyqerotypias kai skopeyei na nomoqethsei. Prosqese oti to qema anoije apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs gia antiperispasmo kai apoprosanatolismo kai proeblece oti qa odhghqei se adiejodo.\nApo thn pleyra toy KKE, o boyleyths Antwnhs Skylakos taxqhke yper toy plhroys asymbibastoy ths ergasias twn dhmosiografwn, oxi mono sta grafeia Typoy toy dhmosioy tomea, alla kai sta grafeia Typoy epixeirhsewn toy idiwtikoy tomea. Epishs, eipe oti qa prepei na dinontai oi katastaseis me ta onomata twn dhmosiografwn poy apasxoloyntai sto dhmosio tomea sth Boylh. O k Skylakos, tonise oti oi dhmosiografoi qa prepei na einai kala ameibomenoi, wste na katarghqei h parallhlh apasxolhsh kai na diasfalizontai oi aparaithtes proypoqeseis gia thn eleyqerh askhsh toy leitoyrghmatos toys.\nApo thn pleyra toy SYN o ypeyqynos toy grafeioy Typoy Nikos Boytshs jekinhse thn topoqethsh toy legontas oti h diaplokh exei ws stoxo ton elegxo kai th xeiragwghsh ths enhmerwshs kai akoloyqws symfwnhse me tis protaseis poy kataqetei h ESHEA kai me tis protaseis poy kateqese h "Aristerh paratajh" sthn opoia symmetexoyn dynameis ths epirrohs toy SYN.\nEipe akomh, oti apotelei zhthma aytorryqmishs twn dhmosiografwn to qema ths apasxolhshs sta grafeia Typoy, prepei na doqoyn enhmerwmenes oi listes stis dhmosiografikes Enwseis kai efoson oi idies to epiqymoyn na tis dwsoyn sth dhmosiothta kai katelhje oti to isxyon nomiko plaisio einai apolytws safes, prepei na efarmostei kai endexomenws na ginoyn kapoies prosqhkes sta asymbibasta stoys isxyontes kwdikes.\nEpanefere thn protash toy kommatos toy gia katarghsh toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy kai twn yphresiwn toy kai ekleise thn topoqethsh toy legontas oti h eyaisqhsia ths dhmokratikhs koinhs gnwmhs exei trwqei epaneilhmmena apo th leitoyrgia dhmosiografwn poy emfanizontai ws "hxeia h papagalakia h baporakia" sygkekrimenwn symferontwn.\nO proedros ths ESHEA Manwlhs Maqioydakhs jekinhse thn omilia toy legontas oti den antilambanetai gia poio logo tiqetai to qema se aytes tis diastaseis, alla h Enwsh proshlqe sto dialogo giati den fobatai. O k. Maqioydakhs anefere oti prepei na yparjei plhrhs diaxwrismos toy dhmosiografikoy epaggelmatos apo kaqe morfh dhmosiwn sxesewn, den einai epidiwjh ths Enwshs h polyqesia, h ESHEA zhta apo ton kybernhtiko ekproswpo na dwsei oles tis katastaseis twn dhmosiografwn sto dhmosio kai eyrytero dhmosio tomea.\nDieykrinise pantws, oti h ergasia sto dhmosio den apotelei kati epilhcimo, kai oti epilhcimo einai mono h parabiash toy kwdika deontologias.\nSth syzhthsh symmeteixan kai oi ekproswpoi twn Enwsewn Makedonias-Qrakhs, Stereas Elladas kai Peloponnhsoy. Oi ekproswpoi twn topikwn enwsewn taxqhkan yper ths aytorryqmishs twn dhmosiografwn kai yposthrijan oti oi listes me ta onomata twn dhmosiografwn qa prepei na doqoyn stis topikes enwseis, dieykrinizontas wstoso oti den prepei na apagoreyqei h parallhlh apasxolhsh twn dhmosiografwn.\nShmantiko probadisma ston K. Karamanlh enanti toy G. Papandreoy, sto erwthma B``poios einai o katallhloteros prwqypoyrgos ;B'', dinei dhmoskophsh poy dienhrghse h VPR-C, gia logariasmo toy radiostaqmoy SKAI.\nH ereyna katagrafei dhmotikothta toy prwqypoyrgoy 52% enanti 19% poy sygkentrwnei o proedros ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.\nH dhmoskophsh, poy egine sto diasthma apo 20 ews 21 Ianoyarioy se deigma 1000 atomwn sto synolo ths xwras me thlefwnikes synenteyjeis, katagrafei tis apoceis twn erwthqentwn se mia seira zhthmatwn, opws ta problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas, h oikonomikh katastash, h isxys twn MME, oi agrotikes kinhtopoihseis kai h bia sta ghpeda.\nIerarxwntas ta problhmata poy toys apasxoloyn oi erwtwmenoi proballoyn thn anergia, toys xamhloys misqoys kai tis syntajeis kai akoloyqoyn h Paideia, h egklhmatikothta kai h Ygeia.\nOson afora thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths kaqhmerinothtas, to 36% qewroyn ws katallhloterh th ND enanti toy 13% poy sygkentrwnei to PASOK.\nSe o,ti afora sthn oikonomikh katastash, to 37% pisteyei oti ta oikonomika toy qa parameinoyn stasima toys epomenoys 12 mhnes, to 39% pisteyei oti me ta eisodhmata toy ta katafernei kai to 34% oti ta katafernei me dyskolia. Oson afora thn akribeia to 42% pisteyei oti ta katanalwtika agaqa exoyn ayjhqei arketa kai to 34% para poly.\nAnaforika me thn isxy twn MME sthn Ellada, to 82% twn erwthqentwn pisteyei oti ta mesa exoyn perissoterh dynamh apo ayth poy problepoyn to Syntagma kai oi nomoi, to 91% qewroyn oti orismenoi epixeirhmaties ephreazoyn thn politikh zwh. To 87% pisteyei oti einai shmantikh h katapolemhsh ths diaplokhs, thn opoia qewroyn oti h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na katapolemhsei se pososto 57%.\nOi erwthqentes qewroyn oti apotelesmatikotera mporei na antimetwpisei thn diafqora kai thn diaplokh o K. Karamanlhs kata 41%, o G. Papandreoy kata 12%, enw apostasiopoihmeno emfanizetai to 26%. Sto erwthma poia kybernhsh empisteyeste perissotero gia thn katapolemhsh ths diaplokhs, to 40% apanta h ND, to 17% to PASOK, enw 25% den empisteyontai kanena.\nSe allh enothta erwthmatwn gia tis agrotikes kinhtopoihseis, to 57% pisteyei oti ta aithmata twn agrotwn einai mallon dikaia, enw 61% den egkrinei to kleisimo twn dromwn kai 16% qewrei ta aithmata adika.\nTelos, se erwthseis gia th bia sta ghpeda, to 41% pisteyei oti oi poines se Olympiako kai Paniwnio htan poly dikaies, to 31% oti oi omades exoyn poly megalh eyqynh gia ta epeisodia, enw 27% den exei kai toso megalh empistosynh sthn aqlhtikh hgesia gia thn katapolemhsh ths bias sta ghpeda kai 25% kaqoloy empistosynh.\nTon 24-wro apokleismo ths eqnikhs odoy sta Temph apo tis 10 to prwi ths Paraskeyhs, mexri kai tis 10 to prwi toy Sabbatoy, apofasisan oi bambakoparagwgoi toy nomoy Larisas.\nThn apofash elaban thn Pempth, arga to brady, meta apo synedriash ths syntonistikhs epitrophs. Opws dhlwsan oi agrotosyndikalistes ean kai ayrio den yparjoyn ejelijeis apo pleyras ths kybernhshs kai sygkekrimenes desmeyseis gia thn aporrofhsh twn adiaqetwn bambakiwn, qa synedriasoyn ek neoy to Sabbato to prwi kai qa apofasisoyn tis peraiterw kinhseis toys.\nana2html v2.01 run on Friday, 28 January 2005 - 13:22:24 UTC


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url: = YPOYRGOS OIKONOMIKWN - KYPROS - PAROXH YPHRESIWN - EPENDYSEIS\n YPOYRGEIO YGEIAS - YPOPTO KROYSMA GRIPHS\nO tomeas ths paroxhs yphresiwn kai ekeinos twn jenwn ependysewn ejakoloyqoyn na apoteloyn basikoys pylwnes ths kypriakhs oikonomias, dhlwse apoce o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, Xarilaos Stayrakhs, tonizontas pws ``oi dyo aytoi tomeis sthrizoyn diaxronika to ryqmo anaptyjhs ths oikonomias``.\nSe omilia toy me titlo ``H Symfwnia Apofyghs Epibolhs Diplhs Forologias Metajy Kyproy kai Rwsias``, sthn eidikh ekdhlwsh poy diorganwseo Kypriakos Syndesmos Dieqnwn Epixeirhsewn (Cyprus International Business Association) sth Lemeso, o k. Stayrakhs eipe, metajy allwn, ``oti h Kypros diaqetei jekaqaro sygkritiko kai antagwnistiko pleonekthma enanti allwn xwrwn, oson afora thn prospaqeia gia proselkysh jenwn ependysewn``.\nAnaferomenos sta sygkritika pleonekthmata ths Kyproy, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn dhlwse oti ``h Kypros einai plhres melos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai ths eyrwzwnhs, diaqetei toys xamhloteroys forologikoys syntelestes anamesa stis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, exei synacei symbaseis apofyghs diplhs forologias me ena megalo ariqmo xwrwn me shmantikes oikonomies kai diaqetei ena dynato kai eyelikto trapeziko systhma``.\nThn Pempth to brady h thn Paraskeyh to prwi to Ypoyrgeio Ygeias qa exei sta xeria toy ta epishma apotelesmata apo to Institoyto Paster sthn Ellada, gia to ypopto peristatiko ths griphs A (H1N1) sthn Kypro.\nWstoso, to Ypoyrgeio Ygeias me pasa epifylajh enocei toy telikoy apotelesmatos anaferei pws h prwth endeijh apo tis ejetaseis poy eginan sta ergasthria ths Kyproy einai arnhtikh.\nSe dhlwseis toy, o Ypoyrgos Ygeias Xristos Patsalidhs eipe: ``H prwth endeijh einai arnhtikh kai ayto shmainei oti einai me kaqe epifylajh poy to leme. Akoma anamenoyme na oloklhrwqei to teliko apotelesma, gia na jeroyme. Ara ayto einai poly endeiktiko stoixeio kai to anaferoyme me kaqe epifylajh ws otoy exoyme kai ta telika apotelesmata''.\nOpws anefere o k. Patsalidhs gia to Ypoyrgeio Ygeias ``to xqesino prwto ypo diereynhsh peristatiko, apotelese syn tois allois kai mia dokimasia, prokeimenoy na doyme thn antidrash twn armodiwn yphresiwn'', shmeiwnontas oti ``h diaxeirish toy en logw peristatikoy egine, opws diafanhke, me to swsto tropo''.\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Thursday, 28 May 2009 - 17:29:14 UTC


url: =Trith, 16 Martioy 2010\nAriqmos Deltioy: 256996431\nAqhna, 16 Martioy 2010\nKat` arxas, qa hqela na anaferqw sta qetika symperasmata toy atypoy symboylioy twn ypoyrgwn Oikonomikwn gia th xwra mas. Pragmati, oi Eyrwpaioi etairoi mas anagnwrisan tis prospaqeies poy katabalei h kybernhsh. Dietypwsan th bebaiothta toys oti h Ellada, me to Programma Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs poy akoloyqei kai tis prosqetes apofaseis poy exei labei, brisketai sth swsth poreia, gia th meiwsh toy elleimmatos kata 4% to 2010.\nEpishs, kai ayto einai ejairetika shmantiko, teqhke gia prwth fora zhthma dhmioyrgias eyrwpaikoy mhxanismoy gia thn antimetwpish paromoiwn krisewn tetoiwn poy pername, etsi wste se analoges kriseis poy qa yparxoyn se alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs sto mellon, na yparxei eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs twn oikonomiwn aytwn.\nProxwrwntas, loipon, ston politiko kai oikonomiko mas sxediasmo, katateqhke xqes sth Boylh to prosxedio toy forologikoy nomosxedioy, to opoio eisagei ena aplo kai dikaio forologiko systhma-plaisio, me eniaioys kanones, xwris adikaiologhtes ejaireseis. Ena plaisio mesa sto opoio, mporei o kaqe poliths na syneisferei - kai ypoxreoytai na syneisferei- analoga me tis pragmatikes toy dynatothtes. Gi` ayto akribws to logo, amesh proteraiothta mas einai h antimetwpish ths forodiafyghs, kaqws apotelei katafwrh adikia se baros twn synepwn sympolitwn mas kai oysiastika apotelei troxopedh sth swsth leitoyrgia toy kratoys kai en telei sthn anaptyjh ths xwras, kaqws kai sthn koinwnikh eyhmeria ths koinwnias, genikotera.\nNa shmeiwsw oti einai h prwth fora, poy kybernhsh sthn Ellada kataqetei protash gia thn anadomhsh kai malista se tetoio baqmo toy forologikoy systhmatos, mesa se pente mhnes. Qa staqw endeiktika se kapoies diatajeis opws:\n-H eisagwgh neas forologikhs klimakas gia pio dikaih katanomh twn forologikwn barwn.\n-H katarghsh twn periptwsewn adikaiologhths aytoteloys forologhshs eisodhmatwn.\n-H ayjhsh toy syntelesth forologhshs akinhtwn, sthn idiokthsia twn off shore etaireiwn poy exei ginei polys logos sto parelqon, apo 3% se 15% ethsiws.\n-H forologhsh twn esodwn apo thn ekmetalleysh ths akinhths perioysias ths ekklhsias, me syntelesth 20%.\n-H forologhsh 90% twn mponoys stis trapezes kai stis xrhmatooikonomikes epixeirhseis.\n-H sygkrothsh apo th Genikh Grammateia toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn, entos eji mhnwn, perioysiologioy olwn twn fysikwn proswpwn, poy qa apotelei th bash gia diejagwgh diastayrwsewn twn eisodhmatwn poy dhlwnontai apo toys forologoymenoys.\n-H taktikh efarmogh hlektronikwn diastayrwsewn, etsi wste na mhn mporei na apokryptontai eisodhmata.\n-H ypoxrewtikh ekdosh apodeijewn, mesw tameiakwn mhxanwn, apo ta prathria kaysimwn, ta taji, ta periptera, toys pwlhtes twn lianikwn agorwn klp.\n-H yioqethsh drastikwn meqodwn sylloghs twn aneispraktwn ofelwn, poy einai ena ejairetiko kommati dhmosioy ploytoy, to opoio ekfeygei, opws h katasxesh perioysiwn gia osoys exoyn thn ikanothta apoplhrwmhs.\nOi diatajeis aytes qa teqoyn se koinoboyleytikh diaboyleysh se prwto baqmo kai qa diamorfwqoyn sthn oristikh toys morfh, mesa apo th gnwsth koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.\nEpishs, na ypogrammisw oti boylhsh ths kybernhshs einai na mhn dhmioyrghqei prosqeto baros sta xamhla kai mesaia eisodhmata, alla antiqeta na anakatanemhqoyn dikaia oi forologikes ypoxrewseis. Diasfalizoyme de, oti ta forologika esoda qa dioxeteyqoyn se draseis poy apoteloyn moxlo gia thn anaptyjh, enisxyoyn to koinwniko kratos kai beltiwnoyn thn poiothta zwhs twn politwn.\nEisagwgika, epishs, qa hqela na anaferqw kai stis prwtoboylies toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias gia to gnwsto ESPA.\nGia prwth fora, aplopoioyntai oi diatajeis gia thn ylopoihsh toy Eqnikoy Strathgikoy Plaisioy Anaptyjhs poy einai ``pagwmenes''. Etsi, feygoyme apo thn aparadekta xamhlh aporrofhtikothta, poy paralabame, oyte 3,5%, poy einai mexri shmera kai pame se ychloys ryqmoys. To synolo twn porwn twn PEP ekxwreitai stis perifereies, me oroys kai proypoqeseis poy ejasfalizoyn xrhsth kai apotelesmatikh diaxeirish. Egkrinetai apo to ypoyrgeio Oikonomias to synoliko programma mexri th lhjh toy kai oxi apospasmatika, etsi wste na trexoyn oi sxetikes diadikasies kai oi parapleyres energeies. Katargeitai h ypoxrewtikh epibebaiwshs ths diaxeiristikhs eparkeias dikaioyxwn kai forewn kata tis apaithseis twn protypwn toy ELOT. Mataiwnetai h systash forewn, opws: Anaptyjiakoi organismoi perifereias kai nomos A.E., poy me epikalyptomenes armodiothtes parepempan se kaqysterhseis kai prosqeto kostos leitoyrgias kai me alles synepeies. Epitaxynetai drastika h ajiologhsh panw apo 3.500 ependytikwn sxediwn poy ekkremoyn -kai einai ejairetika shmantiko ayto- synolikoy kostoys 10,2 disekatommyriwn eyrw kai aitoymenhs epixorhghshs 3,8 disekatommyriwn eyrw. Einai se ekkremothta, ta ``jepagwnoyme'' gia na paroyn mprosta. To ESPA apeleyqerwnetai kai proxwraei. O neos nomos to syndeei me th dhmioyrgikothta, thn paragwgh kai thn apotelesmatikothta.\nMIXAHL: Sas akoysa na milate gia qetika symperasmata apo th xqesinh synedriash toy Eurogroup. Ypoqetw oti kai shmera ligo analogo qa einai to klima sto ECOFIN. Anarwtiemai, omws, poia qeloyme na einai ayta ta qetika symperasmata, otan symfwna me ton k. Sarkozi, paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn ektakth Synodo Koryfhs to Febroyario, dyo pragmata symfwnhqhkan: H Ellada na kanei kapoia pragmata, ta opoia ekane me ta gnwsta metra, poy exoyn prokalesei koinwnikes antidraseis kai anamenetai, opws eipe kai o k. Sarkozi, h antidrash twn Eyrwpaiwn, poy ayth th stigmh den th blepoyme. Kai den th blepoyme se kanena epipedo praktiko. Mono kala logia. H erwthsh moy einai an ayta ta kala logia synistoyn to qetiko symperasma h anamenete kati parapanw empraktws tis epomenes hmeres;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, exoyme tonisei polles fores oti emeis den zhthsame bohqeia, den zhthsame daneio apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Zhthsame politikh sthrijh kai ayto einai poly shmantiko gia emas, giati exei na kanei me tis proypoqeseis kai toys oroys daneismoy. Exoyme epaneilhmmenws dhlwsei oti ayto poy mas endiaferei einai na daneizomaste otan xreiazetai me toys oroys poy daneizontai kai oi ypoloipes xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, poy shmainei oti, ean dhlwqei rhta, kathgorhmatika -kai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh exei toys tropoys na to kanei- exoyme thn politikh sthrijh poy zhtame. Qa exoyme kai enan eykolo daneismo, opote xreiastoyme. Apo ekei kai pera, as mhn jexname oti xqes egine mono mia synedriash kai shmera ginetai h deyterh, ayth toy ECOFIN. Yparxei to Symboylio Koryfhs poy qa ginei stis Bryjelles stis 25 kai 26 Martioy. Synepws, yparxei xwros kai xronos kai gia peraiterw ejeidikeysh twn apofasewn ths sthrijhs ths xwras mas. Egw aplws anefera ta opoia qetika exoyme apokomisei, mexri twra. Kai den mporoyme na mhn qewrhsoyme qetikh th sthrijh h opoia dhlwqhke gia allh mia fora, kaqws kai th dhmioyrgia, epiteloys -estw kai ep` eykairia toy problhmatos ths oikonomikhs krishs ths Elladas- enos eyrwpaikoy mhxanismoy, o opoios afenos men, qa prolambanei kai afeteroy, qa bohqaei se tetoioy eidoys oikonomikes kriseis. Safws kai den teleiwsame. Safws kai exoyme enan ejairetika makry dromo gia na pame mprosta kai na jeperasoyme thn oikonomikh krish. Emeis, omws, bhma me bhma ajiologoyme ola ekeina ta stoixeia, ta opoia mas kanoyn na eimaste eite aisiodojoi, eite apaisiodojoi. Kai sigoyra, mesa apo mia ejairetikh prospaqeia poy exei kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai thn opoia exei parakoloyqhsei kai o ellhnikos laos, olo ayto to diasthma, briskomaste se kalytero dromo kai dhmioyrgoyme proypoqeseis, etsi wste na bgoyme me ton kalytero tropo ap` aythn thn oikonomikh krish. Alla, einai jekaqaro oti exoyme akomh mellon ws pros to ti perimenoyme kai ws pros thn ejelijh ths drashs ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.\nMIXAHL: Mia symplhrwmatikh: H k. Merkel otan synanthqhke me ton Prwqypoyrgo sto Berolino, pragmati htan para poly qermh, gia th sthrijh sthn Ellada, xairetise ta metra poy pairnoyme klp. Symfwna me tis antapokriseis twn synadelfwn mas apo tis Bryjelles, oi Germanoi exoyn twra antirrhseis sto pws mporei na ekfrastei empraktws mia eyrwpaikh bohqeia pros thn Ellada, tetoioy eidoys poy perigracate. Kata synepeia, ti na symperanoyme; Oti htan aplws logia eygeneias oi dhlwseis ths k. Merkel, h ontws yparxei kati pio sygkekrimeno, to opoio den mporoyme mesa se ayth th fash na to anakoinwsoyme kai qa to doyme na ginetai;\nPETALWTHS: H Germania einai mia apo tis xwres ths eyrwzwnhs, kaqoristikhs shmasias kai idiaiteroy baroys, logw toy megeqoys ths oikonomias ths. Apo ekei kai pera, ws gnwston, sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh to zhthma twn diapragmateysewn einai megalo. Me bash aytes tis diapragmateyseis mporei na yparjei sthrijh h na mhn yparjei sthrijh. To na menoyme sth symperifora mias xwras mono, toylaxiston se ayth th fash, nomizw oti den wfelei. Eseis mporeite na to sxoliazete dhmosiografika. Emeis, omws, blepoyme synolika th stash twn etairwn mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai mesa apo tis syzhthseis, diapragmateyseis kai tis synedriaseis twn armodiwn organwn qa yparjei mia apofash, thn opoia sto telos qa krinoyme. Kai opws eipa prohgoymenws, pera apo tis dyo shmerines synedriaseis twn ypoyrgwn Oikonomikwn, xqes kai shmera, yparxei kai h Synodos Koryfhs, thn epomenh ebdomada.\nPAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, lete oti h Ellada den zhtaei xrhmata, zhtaei politikh sthrijh. En toytois, qa hqela na sas pw oti kai sto prohgoymeno Symboylio Koryfhs, sthn ektakth synodo, h Ellada eixe parei mia xliarh, an qelete, politikh sthrijh, alla poly qermoterh politikh sthrijh phre kai apo ton k. Merkel kai apo ton k. Sarkozi prosfata. En toytois, ayto den efqase gia na peisqoyn oi agores na pesoyn ta spread. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, den sas anhsyxei oti plhsiazei o kairos poy h Ellada qa bgei jana se daneismo kai en toytois exoyme mia asafeia apo toys Eyrwpaioys etairoys, poio qa einai ayto to sxedio sthrijhs twn ellhnikwn omologwn;\nPETALWTHS: Bebaiws mas anhsyxei h ellhnikh oikonomia, synolika. Exoyme ejairetikh agwnia, ws ypeyqynh kybernhsh, na diaswsoyme thn ellhnikh oikonomikh. Opws eipa, omws kai prohgoymenws einai mia megalh diapragmateysh poy ginetai sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Emeis qetoyme ta pragmatika peristatika, qetoyme ta zhthmata. Qeloyme na leitoyrghsoyn oi arxes oi opoies diepoyn thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, mia apo tis opoies einai kai h arxh ths allhleggyhs metajy twn xwrwn. Elpizoyme, prosdokoyme kai piezoyme, prospaqoyme mexri na daneistoyme -otan xreiastei na daneistoyme- oi synqhkes na einai safws kalyteres apo aytes poy yparxoyn mexri stigmhs. Ayto to gnwrizoyn kai oi alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai pisteyoyme oti qa epitelesoyn to kaqhkon toys ws pros thn allhleggyh poy anefera prohgoymenws: Thn ylopoihsh ths arxhs ths allhleggyhs. Yparxei, omws, dromos akomh. Milhsame gia th Germania kai th Gallia. Einai dyo jexwristes xwres, me idiaitera xarakthristika h kaqemia kai einai mono dyo xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Einai diaforetiko na syzhta kaneis me mia pros mia xwra kai einai diaforetiko na ginetai mia diapragmateysh s` ayta ta symboylia twn Ypoyrgwn Oikonomikwn kai toy Symboylioy Koryfhs. To qetiko gia thn olh ypoqesh einai oti h Ellada phgainei me kalyteres proypoqeseis, me kalyteres synqhkes. Exoyme na epideijoyme ena ejairetika sobaro Programma Staqerothtas, Anaptyjhs kai Anasygkrothshs, to opoio hdh exei parei thn egkrish. Alla, h sobarothta toy programmatos aytoy epibebaiwqhke kai sth xqesinh synedriash toy atypoy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy twn ypoyrgwn Oikonomikwn kai Oikonomias kai qa epanabebaiwqei. Exoyme thn kataqesh enos neoy forologikoy nomosxedioy poy oi etairoi mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh to lambanoyn ypoch kai ta prosqeta metra, tis prosqetes apofaseis poy labame. Ara, pisteyoyme oti me olo ayto to synqeto egxeirhma mas, eimaste se qesh na peisoyme kai toys Eyrwpaioys etairoys mas gia th sobarothta ths oikonomikhs politikhs mas pleon kai na afhsoyme pisw to elleimma ajiopistias, alla kai oi dieqneis agores na prosarmosoyn thn taktikh toys me bash thn eggyhsh poy exei na kanei me thn politikh sthrijh poy qa mas dwsoyn oi Eyrwpaioi etairoi mas. Einai logiko oti to na peistoyn oi dieqneis agores, oi opoies exoyn kai alloys stoxoys, den einai mia aplh diadikasia. Einai mia synqeth diadikasia. Einai mia diadikasia peiqoys, ajiopistias kai pisteyoyme oti kanoyme oti kalytero, sthn paroysa fash, gia thn patrida mas.\nMPOYATAR: Eipate oti h Ellada den zhtaei daneio. Dhladh praktika, mono me politikh sthrijh sta logia mporei na diasfalisei oti h Ellada qa daneistei me mh barbaroys tropoys, h yparxei kati pio sygkekrimeno poy perimenete; An apokleiete daneio, eggyhseis, ti mas menei pera apo ta logia;\nPETALWTHS: Zhtame politikh sthrijh. Pros to paron menoyme ekei kai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh exei toys tropoys kai gnwrizei poly kala pws mporei na mas dwsei ayth thn politikh sthrijh. Oson afora ayto poy eipate, na mh daneistoyme me ``barbaroys tropoys'', to eipa kai xqes kai epanerxomai: H ellhnikh kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na mh dexqei jana na daneistoyme m` aytoys toys tropoys poy daneisthkame mexri shmera. Kai epeidh yparxoyn oi proypoqeseis, dhmioyrgoyntai oi proypoqeseis, eimaste kai aisiodojoi ws pros ayto.\nANTWNOPOYLOS: An mexri to Symboylio Koryfhs den exei doqei h politikh sthrijh, opws akribws th qelei h xwra mas kai h kybernhsh, h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei, loipon, sto Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio meta kai to Symboylio Koryfhs; Ekei einai h ``kokkinh grammh'' thn opoia bazoyme; An yparxei mia ``kokkinh grammh''.\nPETALWTHS: Xronika ennoeite;\nANTWNOPOYLOS: Xronika, nai. Dhladh, efoson h protash gia Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio einai panw sto trapezi, pote qa anoijei ayto to xarti h kybernhsh;\nPETALWTHS: Egw to exw pei kai to epanalambanw: H prosfygh sto Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio einai mia dynatothta thn opoia den apokleioyme, me dedomeno oti otan xreiastei qa prepei na daneistoyme me toys oroys kai tis synqhkes poy armozoyn se mia eyrwpaikh xwra. Mono ws dynatothta to ejetazoyme. Den yparxei xronikh ``kokkinh grammh''. H kybernhsh diapragmateyetai, syzhtaei, apotypwnei tis qeseis ths, tis diatypwnei. Exei pleon mia seira apo epixeirhmata. Bgainoyme oso ginetai pio qwrakismenoi stis syzhthseis me toys Eyrwpaioys etairoys mas kai dhmioyrgoyme dieqnws ekeines tis synqhkes - kai me ta tajidia toy Prwqypoyrgoy- etsi wste oi agores na mhn exoyn kamia dikaiologia na mh mas daneisoyn me ton tropo poy prepei na mas daneisoyn. H prosfygh pros to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio einai, omws, mia dynatothta.\nXRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to prwi se radiofwnikh synenteyjh sas ypogrammisate, ypenqymisate oti h Germania einai o megalyteros pwlhths oplikwn systhmatwn sthn Ellada kai thn kalesate na skefqei poso wfeleitai h oikonomia ths apo aytes tis agores. Yparxei problhmatismos sthn kybernhsh gia th stash ths Germania sto ellhniko problhma, me dedomeno oti o k. Schaeuble xqes, symfwna me egkyra dhmosieymata, epemeine oti h Ellada den prepei na labei oikonomikh bohqeia, para monon otan qa brisketai sta proqyra ths xrewkopias;\nPETALWTHS: Egw apotypwsa mia pragmatikothta. Ayto poy prospaqoyme na kanoyme shmera, einai na kallierghsoyme tis kales sxeseis poy exoyme me tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sxeseis poy armozoyn se etairoys kai malista se palaioys etairoys, opws einai h Ellada kai h Germania. Kai kaloyme oles tis xwres na analogistoyn ayto poy onomazoyme ``eyrwpaikh allhleggyh'' kai malista otan exoyme ekeines tis baseis kai exoyme dhmioyrghsei, molis se pente mhnes, ekeines tis ypodomes etsi wste h xwra mas na einai pleon ajiopisth gia na mporoyn na thn empisteyontai kai oles oi xwres. Pairnoyme ypoch mas kai tis eswterikes diergasies poy ginontai se oles tis xwres-melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, emeis exoyme tis qeseis mas, exoyme tis protaseis mas kai kaloyme thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na mas sthrijei.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh fainetai akrh den briskoyme, oyte me toys Germanoys, oyte me toys alloys, mporeite na moy peite pws sxoliazete mia plhroforia poy kykloforhse shmera to prwi oti to Nomismatokopeio edw, sthn Aqhna dhladh, einai etoimo na janatypwsei draxmes;\nPETALWTHS: Kyrie Makrygiannh, fernete synexeia tis pio parajenes plhrofories poy kykloforoyn.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Ayth einai h apanthsh sas;\nPETALWTHS: Ayto shmainei oti eiste kalos dhmosiografos. Den yparxei tetoia skech, kamia.\nPOLYMEROS: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma shmera ston ``Eleyqero Typo'', apo o,ti blepw, sto opoio anaferetai oti dieyqynwn symboylos ths EYDAP topoqethqhke o Nikos Mpardhs, o opoios epi 21 xronia htan ekproswpos ths etaireias, an den kanw laqos, ``Beolia'', mias gallikhs etaireias, h opoia hqele diakaws na apokthsei to management ths EYDAP. Shmainei kati ayto sth synexeia ths sygkekrimenhs etaireias; Yparxei periptwsh, dhladh, na doyme kapoia idiwtikopoihsh;\nPETALWTHS: Den shmainei tipota. Oi organismoi koinhs wfeleias kai genikotera oi epixeirhseis poy exoyn na kanoyn me to dhmosio symferon, exoyn ws monadiko gnwmona to dhmosio symferon kai tipote allo.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: H eyrwpaikh allhleggyh poy mas eipate prin pernaei mesa apo tis paraggelies twn oplikwn systhmatwn;\nPETALWTHS: H eyrwpaikh allhleggyh exei sxesh me th sthrijh twn oikonomiwn twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, otan aytes oi xwres antimetwpizoyn problhma kai otan den qa prepei na afhnontai na ginontai bora stoys kerdoskopoys.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Epeidh milhsate gia ta oplika systhmata, gi` ayto sas rwtaw.\nPETALWTHS: Den milhsa egw.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Afoy dikh sas htan h synenteyjh.\nPETALWTHS: O kyrios synadelfos sas anefere kati poy eipa, poy einai mia apotypwsh ths pragmatikothtas.\nGARGALAKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, pws sxoliazete thn orgismenh antidrash toy k. Pagkaloy sthn apofash poy phre h nomarxiakh Epitroph Qessalonikhs toy PASOK kai h opoia apofash einai eyqews antiqeth apo thn politikh ths kybernhshs.\nPETALWTHS: Gia to qema twn metanastwn, lete.\nGARGALAKOS: Nai, gia th metanasteysh milame.\nPETALWTHS: To nomosxedio poy ferame gia th metanasteysh, einai ena nomosxedio to opoio exei na kanei me mia poly kalh leitoyrgia toy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, mia ejairetikh doyleia poy egine, h opoia synadei me tis arxes, tis ajies kai thn ideologia toy PASOK, ths kybernhshs dhladh. Einai mia shmantikh epilogh. Qetoyme mia grammh proodoy me ayto to nomosxedio anamesa sth synthrhsh kai sthn proodo, anamesa sto xqes kai to shmera. H kybernhsh kai to PASOK, antilambanetai me ena sygkekrimeno tropo to pws prepei na einai mia sygxronh koinwnia. Gi` ayto akribws ferame ayto to nomosxedio poy htan desmeysh mas kai gi` ayto akribws to yperaspizomaste mexri keraias.\nMPOTWNHS: Ara, osoi phran ayth thn apofash qa prepei na teqoyn ektos PASOK;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, egw eimai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, den eimai ekproswpos toy PASOK. Alla einai mia shmantikh kai kairia epilogh, poy opws eipa exei na kanei me thn ideologia mas.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Profanws den mporeite na anakoinwsete ean qa prepei na teqoyn ektos h qa prepei na meinoyn mesa sto PASOK.\nMAKRYGIANNHS: Alla, epeidh o antiproedros ths kybernhshs, einai melos ths kybernhshs profanws kai exei mia apoch, symfwneite me to xarakthrismo ``hliqioi'', toylaxiston;\nPETALWTHS: Egw sas lew ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws. O k. Pagkalos exei ena sygkekrimeno tropo na ekfrazetai, to exei pagiwsei edw kai para polla xronia, h oysia omws einai ayth poy sas eipa.\nPOLYMEROS: Mhpws yparxei qema epikoinwnias twn qesewn ths kybernhshs me to komma; Mhpws den katalabainoyn, dhladh, sto komma ti akribws qelei na pei h kybernhsh kai gi` ayto yparxoyn aytes oi ``enstaseis'' poy ginontai orismenes fores;\nPETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, milame gia mia apofash me sygkekrimenh merida atomwn mias nomarxiakhs Epitrophs apo tis ekatontades poy yparxoyn se olh thn Ellada. Ara, den mporoyme na genikeyoyme. Emeis epikoinwnoyme me ton kalytero tropo tis politikes mas, ta nomosxedia mas. Eidika ayto to nomosxedio me th metanasteytikh politikh, to opoio einai shmantikhs shmasias gia thn yparjh, thn ypostash ths idias ths ellhnikhs koinwnias, osoi den to antilambanontai einai qema diko toys to poso antilambanontai kai me poion tropo mporoyn na antilhfqoyn.\nMIXAHL: Eipate oti to forologiko nomosxedio, to prosxedio toy forologikoy nomosxedioy, dinei mia proteraiothta sthn antimetwpish ths forodiafyghs k.t.l. Qelw na sas qesw to ejhs poly aplo erwthma: Pisteyei h kybernhsh oti eperxetai koinwnikh dikaiosynh kai en pash periptwsei ejisorropoyntai oi apwleies toy eisodhmatos poy exoyn ypostei oi sympolites mas apo thn perikoph twn misqwn poy anakoinwsate prin apo ligo kairo;\nPETALWTHS: Qa htan pragmatika eyxhs ergo na mporoysame na poyme kati tetoio eyqews. Emeis fernoyme ena forologiko nomosxedio se sygkekrimenh xronikh stigmh, me tis sygkekrimenes synqhkes tis opoies zoyme, opoy prepei na yparjoyn esoda sto kratos. Apo ekei kai pera, prwta ap` ola to nomosxedio qa symplhrwqei, qa syzhthqei stis armodies Epitropes ths Boylhs, se mia prwimh synedriash ths armodias Epitrophs, se mia taktikh synedriash, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio thn Pempth kai qa fqasei sthn Olomeleia. Poy shmainei oti yparxoyn polles dynatothtes na ginoyn tropopoihseis toy forologikoy nomosxedioy pros to dikaiotero, an yparxoyn kapoies aitiaseis h enstaseis. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, tis baseis tis opoies emeis qetoyme, einai baseis ylopoihshs ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs, poy einai para poly shmantiko. Einai baseis poy deixnoyn oti ta forologika barh prepei na katanemontai pleon me enan pio dikaio tropo. Oti qa prepei plhrwsoyn aytoi poy prepei kai mporoyn na plhrwsoyn, giati den plhrwnoyn tosa xronia. Dhmioyrgoyme mhxanismoys, mesa apo ayto to nomosxedio, oi opoioi tosa xronia - edw kai para polla xronia- den eixan syzhthqei pote, opws to perioysiologio poy eipa prohgoymenws, poy shmainei oti ana pasa stigmh qa yparxei tropos diastayrwshs, ean synadoyn ta perioysiaka stoixeia poy paroysiazei kapoio fysiko proswpo h kapoio nomiko proswpo me ta esoda poy dhlwnontai. Stoxeyoyme sthn perioysia twn off shore etaireiwn. Aytes einai basikes arxes, oi opoies einai se mia poly swsth kateyqynsh kai poy ylopoioyn thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh. Tropoi beltiwshs, safws kai yparxoyn kai mporei na yparjoyn kai mexri thn chfish toy nomosxedioy.\nMPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera sthn NET o k. Tsipras eipe oti ``o k. Pagkalos leitoyrgei ws o kako mpatsos ths kybernhshs''. Exete kapoio sxolio;\nPETALWTHS: Qa mporoysa na pw oti o k. Tsipras exei katoxyrwsei ena sygkekrimeno logo. To qema einai ean aytos o logos ekfrazei kai thn pragmatikothta. Kai epeidh akoysa ton k. Tsipras shmera, ta perissotera apo ayta poy eipe nomizw oti den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.\nXRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete thn topoqethsh toy k. Tsipra oti den yphrje pote kindynos xrewkopias ths xwras kai oti exei sthqei ena epikoinwniako skhniko apo kybernhsh kai MME gia na epiblhqoyn ta sklhra metra stoys polites.\nPETALWTHS: Makari na htan pragmatikothta ayto poy leei o k. Tsipras. Alla, profanws h den mporei na kanei mia stoixeiwdh oikonomikh analysh h den exei thn enhmerwsh kai thn plhroforhsh, h opoia einai dystyxws pragmatikothta. Apo ekei kai pera, to na prospaqei o k. Tsipras na mas pei oti h oikonomikh katastash den einai toso asxhmh h to elleimma poy paralabame den htan ayto, qa prepei na akoloyqeitai kai apo mia apotypwsh ths dikhs toy pragmatikothtas, etsi opws thn antilambanetai. Epeidh den blepw, omws, kati tetoio, nomizw oti einai poly anedafika ayta ta opoia eipe shmera kai ta leei oles aytes tis hmeres. Makari na htan h pragmatikothta. Mono ayto exw na pw.\nSTRATAKHS: Den sas problhmatizei, omws, oti thn idia qesh ekfrazei kai h Nea Dhmokratia; Dyo enantion enos.\nPETALWTHS: Emas den mas problhmatizei. Nomizw oti prepei na problhmatisei ton ellhniko lao ayto, gia na dei tis taytiseis oi opoies ginontai apo diaforetikh pleyra. Emas mas problhmatizei h poly asxhmh pragmatikothta poy exoyme na antimetwpisoyme. Gia to pws ta blepei h Nea Dhmokratia, na mhn epanelqw shmera, giati qa prokalesw kai apanthsh toy k. Panagiwtopoyloy kai den qelw na ton koyrazw.\nSEGKOS: Meta to foroeispraktiko skelos, h Komision to epomeno diasthma qa ajiologhsei kai tis diarqrwtikes metarryqmiseis toy ellhnikoy sxedioy. Se periptwsh poy sas zhthqoyn prosqeta metra sto Asfalistiko kai stis ergasiakes sxeseis, h kybernhsh qa deijei thn idia proqymia, opws kai thn prohgoymenh fora poy yphrjan systaseis gia prosqeta metra kai ta yioqethsate;\nPETALWTHS: Ws pros to Asfalistiko, qa moy epitrecete pali na kanw mia anadromh. Paralabame ena asfalistiko systhma poy htan oxi aplws sta oria ths antoxhs toy, alla poy den antexei. Ean to afhname, mporei na mhn eixame ena politiko ``trejimo'' poy exoyme ayth th stigmh, alla se ligo den qa mporoysame na plhrwsoyme syntajeis. Ayto einai dedomeno. Analabame to kostos -akomh kai to politiko kostos analambanoyme- na kanoyme ena asfalistiko systhma biwsimo, ena asfalistiko systhma dikaio, xwris yperboles ws pros ta epwdyna metra poy isws qa prepei na paroyme. Ena systhma asfalistiko poy diasfalizei oxi mono to paron, alla kai thn allhleggyh twn genewn. Dhladh, na yparxei mia synexeia toy asfalistikoy systhmatos ths xwras mas, me tis kalyteres proypoqeseis kai me toys kalyteroys oroys gia toys asfalismenoys.\nEmeis tolmhsame. Emeis mesa se ligo xroniko diasthma, afoy petyxame na exoyme ena dialogo, na exoyme ekatontades protaseis kai me th diadikasia ths anoixths diaboyleyshs kai diakybernhshs, alla kai me th sygkekrimenh diadikasia syzhthshs sto asfalistiko nomosxedio, fqasame sto telos toy. Se ligo, qa brisketai stis armodies Epitropes ths Boylhs. Qa yparxei atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, opws zhthse o k. Loberdos, kai mexri to Maio, prosdokoyme oti qa exoyme kai asfalistiko nomoqethma. Kai ekei emeis exoyme balei tis grammes mas. Exoyme kanei toys ypologismoys mas. Den kanoyme mpalwmata. Milame gia ena asfalistiko systhma, to opoio qa antexei kai qa einai, opws eipa kai sthn arxh, biwsimo kai dikaio. Eimaste apofasismenoi gi` ayto.\nSEGKOS: Sygnwmh, epeidh htan allh h erwthsh, qa yioqethsete tis systaseis gia prosqeta metra stis ergasiakes sxeseis kai sto Asfalistiko;\nPETALWTHS: Oxi. Emeis exoyme parei tis apofaseis mas.\nQEODWROPOYLOS: Xqes, o yfypoyrgos Oikonomikwn k. Saxinidhs, me dhlwsh toy sthn efhmerida ``TA NEA'', kalese tis trapezes na aporrofhsoyn ta 16 dis eyrw poy exoyn meinei apo to paketo sthrijhs twn 28 dis. Ta xrhmata ayta isodynamoyn me to synolo twn xrhmatwn poy protiqetai na mazecei h kybernhsh apo tis perikopes twn misqwn kai twn syntajewn, toys foroys se kaysima, se tsigara kai pota, thn ayjhsh toy FPA kai oles tis alles perikopes. Anti na dwsete ta xrhmata stis trapezes, den qa htan kalytero na enisxysete to eisodhma twn ergazomenwn poy to perikoptetai se kaqe eykairia;\nPETALWTHS: Emeis ayta ta xrhmata den kaloyme tis trapezes na ta paroyn gia na ta baloyn sto tameio toys kai na ta ekmetalleytoyn. Emeis, ayta ta xrhmata, einai ta xrhmata apo ta perifhma 28 dis eyrw ta opoia h prohgoymenh kybernhsh pote den frontise oxi na aporrofhqoyn apo tis trapezes, alla na fqasoyn ston aplo Ellhna polith gia na kalycei tis anagkes toy, gia na parei ta daneia toy, gia na bohqhsei thn katanalwtikh pisth. Emeis ayta ta xrhmata, kaloyme tis ellhnikes trapezes akribws gia na perasoyn ws roh sthn anaptyjiakh prooptikh ths xwras, giati qeloyme na yparxei reystothta sthn agora. Kai diasfalizoyme, me bash ayth thn prosklhsh poy eipate, oles ekeines tis proypoqeseis, etsi wste ayta ta xrhmata na perasoyn sthn anaptyjh, na perasoyn sthn paragwgh, na perasoyn sthn katanalwsh. Xwris reystothta, gnwrizoyme oti den mporei na yparxei anaptyjh. Kai me swstoys oroys kai proypoqeseis mporoyme na petyxoyme pragmatika thn anaptyjh kai se ayto ton tomea.\nSTRATAKHS: Ep aytoy. Yparxei mhxanismos poy na mporei na elegjei oti ayta ta xrhmata, ean aporrofhqoyn qa pane pros ton skopo, gia ton opoio exoyn diateqei; Giati ayto einai to megalo zhtoymeno.\nPETALWTHS: Bebaiws. To kratos diaqetei, otan qelei, polloys mhxanismoys, etsi wste na prostateyei kai to dhmosio xrhma, alla kai thn kateyqynsh aytwn twn xrhmatwn, poy einai xrhmata oxi gia na ploytisoyn oi trapezes. Einai xrhmata gia na perasoyn mesw twn trapezwn, ws ena endiameso ergaleio. Oi trapezes xrhsimopoioyntai, apo ton aplo Ellhna polith, asxeta an ayto den egine mexri twra me ton kalytero tropo, giati ayth htan h boylhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias.\nPAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio paramenei mia epilogh, an xreiastei...\nPETALWTHS: Mia dynatothta.\nPAPPA: Mia dynatothta gia thn kybernhsh. Qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: O Prwqypoyrgos, shmera, brisketai sth Boydapesth, mia xwra eyrwpaikh, h opoia an kai den einai sthn eyrwzwnh, exei prosfygei sto Dieqnes Eyrwpaiko Tameio. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw: Na ypoqesoyme oti qa antlhsei apo ekei kai texnognwsia apo ton Oyggro omologo toy se periptwsh poy xreiastoyme kati analogo;\nPETALWTHS: H episkech toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy k. Papandreoy, htan katopin prosklhsews toy Oyggroy Prwqypoyrgoy. Qa exei syzhthseis me thn kybernhsh, me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Oyggarias kai qa symmetasxei se ena synedrio poy exei ws qema thn oikonomikh krish. Thn texnognwsia den xreiazetai na episkeftei kapoia xwra gia na thn apokthsei kai den xreiazetai pros to paron. Emeis, to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio to exoyme aplws ws mia dynatothta, qewrhtika. Ayto poy kanei, omws, systhmatika o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos, einai na dhmioyrgei tis kalyteres proypoqeseis gia na paei h oikonomia mas mprosta.\nSTRATAKHS: Ws dynatothta mporei na teqei kai to zhthma ths apoxwrhshs; Giati o synadelfos eipe gia to nomismatokopeio. Parakoloyqeite, kaqoloy, ta diafora arqra...\nPETALWTHS: Apoxwrhshs apo thn eyrwzwnh, ennoeite.\nSTRATAKHS: Apo thn eyrwzwnh. Parakoloyqeite ta arqra ta opoia blepoyme syxna, pykna na dhmosieyontai ton teleytaio kairo;\nPETALWTHS: Poiwn ta arqra;\nSTRATAKHS: Se olo to dieqnh Typo.\nPETALWTHS: To oti yparxoyn kapoioi, oi opoioi kanoyn anedafikes protaseis, emas den mas afora. Den yparxei, ennoeitai, kamia skech ejodoy apo thn eyrwzwnh. As qymhqoyme oti mphkame sthn eyrwzwnh, mphkame sthn ONE me qysies toy ellhnikoy laoy. Kai ekei pragmatika deijame oti otan yparxei mia kybernhsh, h opoia einai ypeyqynh kai den afhnei ta pragmata sthn tyxh ths, oi qysies toy laoy pianoyn topo. Briskomaste edw kai xronia ston sklhro pyrhna ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs me mia staqerh oikonomia kai den mporoyme na dianohqoyme ti qa ginotan an hmastan ektos ths eyrwzwnhs, ektos ONE. Ayth thn katakthsh, poy htan katakthsh toy ellhnikoy laoy, mesw ths tote kybernhshs toy PASOK, den prokeitai na afhsoyme kanenan na th diatarajei. Kai an yparxoyn kapoies fwnes arqrografwn h oikonomikwn sxoliastwn, oi opoies anaferontai se ayta poy eipate - kai ennoeitai tis diabazoyme kai emeis - einai fwnes, oi opoies den mas aforoyn.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Tuesday, 16 March 2010 - 20:11:30 UTC


url: = Megalh nikh toy Erntogan\n "H Germania prepei na bohqhsei"\n Dhmochfisma sthn Italia\nMe pososto 50,3% (46,6% stis ekloges toy 2007) kerdizei tis ekloges sthn Toyrkia to kybernwn Komma Dikaiosynhs kai Anaptyjhs, me katametrhmeno to 97% twn chfwn kai eklegei 326 boyleytes, kata tesseris ligoteroys apo thn pleiochfia poy apaiteitai gia na allajei to Syntagma mono me tis dikes toy chfoys.\nAkoloyqoyn to Repoymplikaniko Laiko Komma me 25,9% (20,9) poy eklegei 135 boyleytes, to akrodejio Komma Eqnikistikoy Kinhmatos me 13,1% (14,3%) poy eklegei 54 boyleytes kai telos oi anejarthtoi poy yposthrizei to filokoyrdiko Komma Eirhnhs kai Dhmokratias me 5,6% (5,4) to opoio wstoso eklegei 35 boyleytes, enw to 2007 eixe eklejei 20.\nMikres ayjomeiwseis qa yparjoyn, kaqws qa enswmatwnontai chfoi apo th Dytikh Toyrkia.\nO Retzep Tagip Erntogan qa sxhmatisei gia trith synexomenh fora aytodynamh kybernhsh kai malista ayjanontas to pososto toy kommatos toy. To monadiko toy problhma einai to oti den katakta thn pleiochfia twn 330 boyleytwn. Kata ta alla, to peripoy 50% dinei aney prohgoymenoy aera sto komma.\nStoys kolpoys toy Repoymplikanikoy Laikoy Kommatos epikratei "sygkrathmenh apaisiodojia" pragma poy ofeiletai sto poly ychlo pososto toy kybernwntos kommatos kai sto gegonos oti to epiteleio toy RLK perimene pososto konta sto 30%.\nShmeiwnetai oti kata megalo baqmo, h ayjhsh ths dynamhs toy kybernwntos kommatos, alla kai toy RLK se sxesh me to 2007 ofeiletai sth megalh meiwsh twn posostwn twn mikrwn kommatwn.\nH Germania den exei allh epilogh apo to na bohqhsei tis xwres ths eyrwzwnhs poy antimetwpizoyn krish sta dhmosionomika toys, giati diaforetika qa mporoyse na teqei se kindyno h anakamch ths germanikhs oikonomias, proeidopoihse h kagkelarios Agkela Merkel.\nSto idio mhkos kymatos kineitai kai o proedros ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths synthrhtikhs Xristianikhs Enwshs, Folker Kaoynter, o opoios ektima oti an den doqei nea bohqeia sthn Ellada endexetai na apeilhqei nea oikonomikh kai dhmosionomikh krish.\nApo thn pleyra toy, o proedros ths Kentrikhs Trapezas ths Germanias (Bundesbank) Giens Baintman den apokleiei kai thn ptwxeysh ths Elladas, se periptwsh poy h ellhnikh kybernhsh den piasei toys stoxoys toy koinoy programmatos me to DNT, thn EE kai thn EKT.\nSe synenteyjh toy sthn kyriakatikh efhmerida "Welt am Sonntag" (Belt am Zontagk), o k. Baintman ektima pantws oti kai adynamia plhrwmwn ek meroys ths Elladas den qa synistoyse nomismatikh apeilh gia to eyrw. "To eyrw kai sthn periptwsh ayth qa parameinei staqero", leei. H apotroph ths stashs plhrwmwn "ejartatai kyriws apo th stash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai toy ellhnikoy laoy", epishmainei o k. Baintman kai tonizei: "Qa yparjei ektenhs bohqeia alla ypo aysthroys oroys, stoys opoioys symperilambanontai eyreies kai taxeies idiwtikopoihseis".\nJekinhse thn Kyriakh sthn Italia to dhmochfisma gia th xrhsh pyrhnikhs energeias, thn idiwtikopoihsh twn diktywn ydreyshs kai thn poinikh asylia toy Mperloyskoni.\nSymfwna me ta stoixeia poy anakoinwqhkan apo to italiko ypoyrgeio eswterikwn, h proseleysh twn eklogewn stis kalpes, stis 19.00 topikh wra (oktw wra Ellados) aggije, kata meso oro, to 29%.\nLeipoyn akomh ta stoixeia orismenwn astikwn perioxwn, alla oi ypeyqynoi twn epitropwn poy organwsan to dhmochfisma synexizoyn na ekfrazoyn sygkrathmenh aisiodojia. Symfwna me tis prwtes ektimhseis, yparxoyn polles piqanothtes na jeperasqei telika, to orio toy 50% twn chfisantwn, epi toy synoloy twn eggegrammenwn stoys eklogikoys katalogoys, to opoio apotelei aparaithth proypoqesh gia na mporesei na einai nomika desmeytiko to apotelesma toy dhmochfismatos.\nTo dhmochfisma oloklhrwnetai thn Deytera.\nana2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 12 June 2011 - 18:30:22 UTC


url: = "Kraygh agwnias" twn giatrwn ston Ant. Samara\n ``Ektamieysh ths epomenhs doshs'' shmainei h episkech Merkel sthn Aqhna, leei Germanos Xristianodhmokraths\n Thn anhsyxia toy Ant. Samara gia tis epiptwseis ths litothtas sthn koinwnikh synoxh symmerizetai o M. Monti\n"Kraygh agwnias" apo toys giatroys ths xwras poy ektimoyn pleon oti h katastash sto xwro ths ygeias egkymonei sobaroys kindynoys akomh kai gia anqrwpines zwes.\nSth paniatrikh sygkentrwsh poy egine to prwi se kentriko jenodoxeio ths Aqhnas zhthsan amesa synanthsh me ton prwqypoyrgo kai kalesan proswpika ton A.Samara na parembei wste na stamathsei h katarreysh twn yphresiwn ygeias, opws eipan.\nOi giatroi, sth synanthsh poy egine me prwtoboylia toy ISA apofasisan neo kyklo dynamikwn kinhtopoihsewn, me Panygeionomikh sygkentrwsh sto Syntagma stis 17 Oktwbrioy kai parallhlh apergia thn idia hmera.Opws aneferan agwnizontai gia na apotrecoyn th dialysh toy systhmatos ygeias kai na diasfalisoyn thn prosbash twn politwn se poiotikes yphresies ygeias.\nSthn paniatrikh sygkentrwsh symmeteixan kai ekproswpoi twn xrhstwn ygeias, asqenwn kai asfalismenwn, oi opoioi periegracan thn sklhrh pragmatikothta poy biwnoyn kaqhmerina, ejaitias twn metrwn poy efarmozontai sto xwro ths ygeias, tonizontas oti kaloyntai pleon na plhrwnoyn 4 fores apo osa plhrwnan gia tis proswpikes dapanes ths ygeias toys.\nOi giatroi ejefrasan thn pepoiqhsh oti oi polites qa sthrijoyn ton agwna toys kai epishmanan oti ayjanetai dramatika o ariqmos twn anasfalistwn politwn sth xwra mas , thn wra poy oi nosokomeiakoi giatroi exoyn xasei to 40% apo tis mhniaies amoibes toys kai oi eleyqeroi epaggelmaties einai omhroi twn tameiwn poy toys ofeiloyn xrhmata gia ta 3 teleytaia xronia.\nThn ektamieysh ths epomenhs doshs apo to paketo bohqeias shmatodotei h episkech ths kagkelarioy ths Germanias 'Agkela Merkel sthn Aqhna, symfwna me ton boyleyth twn Xristianodhmokratwn Bolfgkangk Mposmpax, o opoios kanei logo gia ``shmadi ths germanoellhnikhs allhleggyhs''.\nSe synenteyjh poy paraxwrhse nwritera shmera sthn Germanikh Radiofwnia, o k. Mposmpax yposthrije oti h ekqesh ths troikas qa anaferetai se ``sebasmo gia tis prospaqeies ths Elladas na petyxei toys symfwnhqentes stoxoys''.\n``Se o,ti afora thn Ellada, h qesh ths italikhs kybernhshs einai oti prepei na doqei megalh prosoxh sth dhmosionomikh peiqarxia, stis oikonomikes metarryqmiseis xwris ekptwseis. Parallhla, omws, prepei na deijoyme megalh eyaisqhsia pros tis epiptwseis toys sth diaqesh twn politwn apenanti sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Oi teleytaies dhlwseis toy Antwnh Samara sxetizontai apolyta me ayto to problhma'' tonise o Italos texnokraths prwqypoyrgos, Mario Monti, se synenteyjh Typoy meta th lhjh ths Diaskechs gia to Dialogo sth Mesogeio, poy pragmatopoihqhke sth Malta.\nSymfwna me toys politikoys analytes, o Italos prwqypoyrgos, me ton tropo ayto, qelhse na ekfrasei kai pali thn anhsyxia toy gia thn dynatothta emmeshs enisxyshs ratsistikwn kai laikistikwn politikwn dynamewn, poy prospaqoyn na ekmetalleyqoyn thn oikonomikh krish.\nH kybernhsh ths Rwmhs exei kanei gnwsth, telos, thn proqesh ths na organwsei paneyrwpaikh diaskech, sthn italikh prwteyoysa, gia thn analysh kai thn antimetwpish toy oloy aytoy fainomenoy.\nana2html v2.01 run on Saturday, 6 October 2012 - 12:30:45 UTC


url: = Syllogikh diaboyleysh me politikoys arxhgoys qa epidiwjei o PtD,\nleei o Yp. Sygkoinwniwn\n Syskech sto YPOIK gia katartismo toy nomosxedioy me tis apofaseis\n Syllogikh diaboyleysh me politikoys arxhgoys qa epidiwjei o PtD, leei o Yp. Sygkoinwniwn\nSyllogikh diaboyleysh me toys politikoys arxhgoys qa epidiwjei o Proedros ths Dhmokratias Nikos Anastasiadhs prin th sygklhsh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, prokeimenoy na egkriqoyn ta nomosxedia poy qa perilambanoyn ta nea metra poy apofasisthkan xqes sthn ektakth synedria toy Eurogroup.\n"O sxediasmos poy yparxei apo pleyras toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias einai akribws prin apo th sygklhsh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy na yparjei mia syskech twn politikwn arxhgwn", anefere se dhlwseis toy sto KYPE o Ypoyrgos Sygkoinwniwn kai Ergwn Tasos Mhtsopoylos.\nO k. Mhtsopoylos symmeteixe se prwinh syskech twn paragwgikwn Ypoyrgeiwn, dhladh twn Ypoyrgeiwn Eswterikwn, Emporioy, Ergasias kai Gewrgias prokeimenoy na ejetastoyn oi ejelijeis poy proekycan meta th xqesinh synedria toy Eurogroup\n Syskech sto YPOIK gia katartismo toy nomosxedioy me tis apofaseis toy Eurogroup\nTo nomosxedio poy qa perilambanei tis apofaseis ths xqesinhs ektakths synedrias toy Eurogroup etoimazetai se texnokratikh syskech, poy brisketai se ejelijh sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn.\nOpws plhroforeitai to KYPE, sth syskech symmetexoyn texnokrates toy YPOIK, ths Kentrikhs Trapezas kai ths Nomikhs Yphresias.\nSe aythn katartizetai h sxetikh nomoqetikh ryqmish poy qa prepei na egkriqei apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai sth synexeia na katateqei sth Boylh gia egkrish.


url: =Aqhna, 25 Aygoystoy 1998\nPARIS: H Kybernhsh prosanatolizetai na khryjei to diagwnismo gia thn pwlhsh ths Ionikhs agono; An nai, pote problepetai na ginei ayto;\nREPPAS: To qema ths pwlhshs ths Ionikhs Trapezas to xeirizetai h Emporikh Trapeza, poy einai o pwlhths. To D. S. ths Emporikhs Trapezas qa labei syntoma thn telikh apofash toy. Ayto mporei na ginei entos ths hmeras. Qa moy epitrecete na kanw ena sxolio: H poreia ths Oikonomias ths xwras mas einai staqerh. Einai qetikh kai anodikh h poreia ayth kai den syndeetai me thn pwlhsh mias mesaias Trapezas. Ena apo ta piqana endexomena - dioti oydeis mporoyse na proejoflhsei thn ekbash aytoy toy diagwnismoy - htan kai h ejelijh ayth poy yphrje telikws. Efoson khryxqei agonos o diagwnismos, logw mh diasfalishs ths epiqymhths fereggyothtas apo toys ypochfioys, qa epanalhfqei to syntomotero dynato, se mikro xroniko diasthma. H ejelijh ayth prepei na antimetwpistei me eyqynh apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs, h opoia den ypakoyei sto dogma "pwlhsh gia thn pwlhsh", alla endiaferetai gia th diasfalish twn symferontwn toy Dhmosioy, twn symferontwn ths Trapezas kai twn metoxwn ths. Pisteyw oti oloi oi xeirismoi kai oi apofaseis qa prepei na ginoyn kai na lhfqoyn me gnwmona ta symferonta ayta. H Antipoliteysh den endiaferetai gia to symferon ths Trapezas. Epidiwkei na askhsei antipoliteysh kai mono sthn Kybernhsh. Eite diastreblwnei ta pragmata, eite agnoei pws akribws exei to qema, me apotelesma mono mesw ths dhmagwgias kai toy ceydoys na epixeirei na plhjei thn Kybernhsh. Etsi omws den askeitai antipoliteysh, xwris logika kai tekmhriwmena epixeirhmata. Antiqetws, ananewnetai o faylos kyklos ths anajiopistias kai ths anikanothtas ths Antipoliteyshs, ston opoio (faylo kyklo) exei perielqei, edw kai arketo kairo, kai fainetai oti den exei th dynatothta na spasei ayto to kelyfos, prokeimenoy me eyqynh kai synesh na proseggisei ta qemata poy apasxoloyn th dhmosia zwh ths xwras thn teleytaia periodo.\nPARIS: To klima ths yperaisiodojias poy kallierghqhke, meta thn pwlhsh th Trapezas Krhths, htan laqos apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs;\nREPPAS H Kybernhsh den kalliergei opoiasdhpote morfhs klima. H Kybernhsh xeirizetai ola ta qemata me megalh ypeyqynothta. Gnwrizete poly kala, oti se allepallhles erwthseis gia th ragdaia anodo poy gnwrizei thn teleytaia periodo to Xrhmatisthrio sthn patrida mas, oi apanthseis poy labate apo emas pantote htan apanthseis poy edeixnan aytosygkrathsh, cyxraimia kai eyqynh. Htan apanthseis logikhs kai politikoy realismoy. Ayto den prepei na sas diafeygei. An kapoioi, gia dikoys toys logoys, dhmioyrghsan ena klima, ayto den afora thn Kybernhsh. H Kybernhsh eyqys ej arxhs eixe safh politikh, thn opoia diatypwse. Me bash ayth thn politikh h Emporikh Trapeza proxwrhse sthn prokhryjh aytoy toy diagwnismoy. Apo to prosfato parelqon exoyme analoges periptwseis kata tis opoies den epiteyxqhke h pwlhsh allwn trapezwn kata thn prwth h kai th deyterh diadikasia toy diagwnismoy. Telikws, omws, to egxeirhma stefqhke me epityxia. Pisteyoyme oti to idio qa symbei kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Efoson h poreia ths Oikonomias einai anodikh, opws eipate, tote giati synebh ayto to fiasko me thn Ionikh: Giati emfanisthkan kapoioi me amfiboloy proeleysews xrhmata:\nREPPAS: Prwta ap' ola den yparxei opoiasdhpote morfhs fiasko. Epeita se mia diadikasia diagwnismoy den proepilegeis toys ypochfioys. Ana pasa stigmh se enan diagwnismo kai malista dieqnh, yparxei to endexomeno kai h piqanothta na proselqei ws ypochfios agorasths, mias trapezas en prokeimenw, opoiosdhpote o opoios qewrei oti diaqetei tis aparaithtes proypoqeseis. H Politeia, h Kybernhsh, o armodios foreas, opws einai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh h Emporikh Trapeza, exei ypoxrewsh na probei se oloys toys elegxoys gia na diapistwsei an ikanopoioyntai oi proypoqeseis poy ej arxhs exoyn teqei. Oi proypoqeseis aytes htan safeis kai sygkekrimenes: Prwton, to eylogo kai dikaio timhma gia thn pwlhsh ths Trapezas kai deyteron, h apolyth fereggyothta twn ypochfiwn agorastwn. Qa prepei, loipon, na ikanopoioyntai aytes oi dyo proypoqeseis. An ikanopoioyntai h oxi, einai ena qema poy apasxolei ayth thn wra thn Emporikh Trapeza, h opoia qa labei thn telikh apofash ths.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws meta ap' ayto poy egine h Emporikh Trapeza qa apeyqynqei se kapoion jeno Oiko gia na yparjei kapoia kalyterh proetoimasia gia to neo diagwnismo, wste na mh ginoyn ta idia;\nREPPAS: O diagwnismos yphrje acogos. Anejarthta apo thn ejelijh, den prepei na genikeyoyme kata thn ejagwgh twn symperasmatwn. Epanalambanw oti tetoio fainomeno eixame kai kata th diadikasia pwlhshs allwn trapezwn sto prosfato parelqon. Me aformh thn erwthsh sas moy dinete thn eykairia na pw oti akoygontai orismena pragmata ta opoia h eytrapela einai - an kapoioi gnwrizoyn pws exei to qema kai para tayta den omiloyn th glwssa ths alhqeias - h apodeiknyoyn perissh agnoia. Otan mia etairia einai sto Xrhmatisthrio kai syndeetai h timh ths pwlhshs ths me thn timh ths metoxhs ths, den xreiazetai na xrhsimopoihseis kapoion eidiko symboylo, giati akoysa na diatypwnetai kai ayto to epixeirhma. O symboylos ayths ths morfhs xrhsimopoieitai stis periptwseis ekeines poy prepei na apotimhqei h ajia mias biomhxanias, mias epixeirhshs poy einai ektos Xrhmatisthrioy h gia prwth fora eiserxetai sto Xrhmatisthrio. Edw exeis ena odhgo shmeio, prokeimenoy na staqmiseis to eylogo h dikaio timhma poy soy prosferoyn. Nomizw, loipon, oti den einai swsto ayto to epixeirhma poy diatypwnetai apo thn Antipoliteysh, opws den einai swsto epishs to epixeirhma poy diatypwqhke peri ths ek twn proterwn ejetashs ths fereggyothtas twn ypochfiwn agorastwn. H fereggyothta ejetazetai symfwna me to Nomo poy diepei tis Trapezes, o opoios isxyei edw kai arketa xronia. Bebaiws, h fereggyothta ejetazetai pantote ek twn ysterwn, giati den mporei na gnwrizeis poios einai aytos o opoios qa proselqei se mia diadikasia diagwnismoy, h opoia einai anoikth kai dinei se oloys th dynatothta na laboyn meros s` aythn. Ean oi proypoqeseis, peran toy ti pisteyei o ypochfios agorasths, syntrexoyn pragmatika, symfwna me ta osa problepontai stoys oroys ths prokhryjhs, einai qema to opoio apotelei antikeimeno elegxoy toy pwlhth, qema to opoio ayth thn wra apasxolei thn Emporikh Trapeza.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akomh, k. Ypoyrge: Qa hqela na rwthsw giati eklhqh o k. Papantwnioy apo ton k. Shmith kai ean meta to fiasko qa parameinei Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias.\nREPPAS: O k. Papantwnioy asfalws einai Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias. H ejelijh ayth den exei opoiadhpote sxesh me th qesh thn opoia katexei kai thn idiothta toy. O k. Papantwnioy einai prwtergaths sthn prospaqeia poy kanei h xwra mas na epityxei th dhmosionomikh ejygiansh kai thn oikonomikh anaptyjh. Apo ekei kai pera, opws kai me alloys Ypoyrgoys kai stelexh, exei synergasies o Prwqypoyrgos. Sto plaisio ayto synantatai shmera kai me ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias, opws argotera qa synanthqei kai me ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs, opws tis epomenes hmeres qa exei synergasies kai me alloys Ypoyrgoys. Oi synanthseis aytes htan programmatismenes, sto plaisio toy programmatos toy Prwqypoyrgoy, prin prokycei ayth h ejelijh sxetika me thn pwlhsh ths Ionikhs Trapezas.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, twra moy lete den einai ypeyqynos. Poios einai ypeyqynos; Mhpws mporeite na moy peite apo thn Kybernhsh poios einai ypeyqynos gia olh ayth thn istoria; Yparxei kanenas;\nREPPAS: H Kybernhsh xeirizetai ta qemata ayta me megalh ypeyqynothta. Den einai dynaton h Kybernhsh na agnohsei oti peran toy ycoys toy timhmatos qa prepei na ejasfalizetai h apolyth fereggyothta poy epiqymoyme na yparxei stis synallages aytoy toy eidoys. Ayto apotelei kai thn kalyterh apanthsh se oloys ekeinoys poy kata kairoys diatypwnoyn kathgories, xrhsimopoiwntas th lejh "jepoylhma". Edw fainetai oti h Kybernhsh endiaferetai gia th diasfalish twn symferontwn toy Dhmosioy, ths Trapezas kai twn metoxwn ths kai gi` ayto akribws h Emporikh Trapeza proxwrei s` ayton ton endelexh elegxo, gia na gnwrizoyme pws akribws exoyn ta stoixeia taytothtas twn endiaferomenwn agorastwn. Den einai dynaton na exei eyqynh o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias, epeidh akribws to endiaferon gia thn pwlhsh mias mesaias trapezas, s` ayth th fash, den einai ayto poy isws epiqymoysate eseis h ki emeis. Alla, ayto einai teleiws allo qema apo to qema to opoio apotelei to kentriko ergo toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias na symbalei me tis eishghseis toy kai me to ergo toy, wste na exoyme anaptyjh s` ayton ton topo. Kai prepei na poyme oti exoyme epityxei ryqmoys anaptyjhs sthn Ellada ychloteroys apo toys antistoixoys deiktes sta alla krath ths E. E. Aytos einai o rolos toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai s` ayton exei antapokriqei o k. Papantwnioy.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Den moy apantate, poios einai ypeyqynos apo thn Kybernhsh gia tis trapezes; Mporeite na moy peite;\nREPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, otan mia trapeza, thn wra poy brisketai se ejelijh h diadikasia pwlhshs ths, den einai toso elkystikh, symfwna me ta osa oi idioi oi epixeirhmaties apofasizoyn, den eyqynetai gi` ayto o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias h h Kybernhsh. Epanalambanw oti exoyme prohgoymeno paradeigma, sto prosfato parelqon, analogwn diadikasiwn, poy telikws stefqhkan me epityxia, enw s` ena prwto stadio h pwlhsh h opoia kai tote epidiwketo, den eixe ginei efikth. Qa prepei, loipon, cyxraima na antimetwpisoyme ayth thn ejelijh, h opoia den diatarassei thn oikonomikh politikh poy akoloyqei h Kybernhsh kai den ephreazei tis diarqrwtikes allages tis opoies exoyme edw kai arketo kairo jekinhsei. O stoxos mas paramenei o idios kai pisteyoyme oti to stoxo ayto qa ton epityxoyme.\nFILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate nwritera, oti paramenei ws krithrio gia to timhma ths pwlhshs h xrhmatisthriakh ajia ths IONIKHS Trapezas. Ayto einai ena stoixeio poy diaforopoiei ayth thn ypoqesh, ths IONIKHS, apo tis prohgoymenes poy eixan thn ekbash poy eipate. To erwthma einai: H shmerinh -ap' oti eipate kai eseis- akarph ejelijh toy diagwnismoy qa trofodothsei, opws lete, ptwtikes taseis ths xrhmatisthriakhs ajias ths IONIKHS. Ara ej antikeimenoy den yparxei mia yponomeysh toy kybernhtikoy stoxoy gia thn pwlhsh ths IONIKHS;\nREPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, to an einai akarph h oxi h diadikasia qa to gnwrizoyme otan apofasisei...\nFILHS: Ma, to eipate nwritera. Eipate den pwlhqhke.\nREPPAS: Eipa "efoson"...\nFILHS: An deite sta praktika...\nREPPAS: Eipa, efoson khryxqei agonos o diagwnismos... 'Allwste akomh den exei pwlhqei h Trapeza. Asfalws den pwlhqhke. Exei anakoinwqei pwlhsh; Ayth thn wra asxoleitai h EMPORIKH Trapeza gia na labei thn apofash ths. Ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme den exei pwlhqei h Trapeza. Ayto einai to qema. Oson afora ta alla shmeia ths erwthsh sas lew toyto: Emeis, xrhsimopoioyme ws shmeio odhgo -kai to eipame eyqys ej arxhs- thn xrhmatisthriakh timh ths metoxhs ths IONIKHS Trapezas. To Xrhmatisthrio poreyetai anodika edw kai arketo kairo kai to gnwrizete poly kala. Alla bebaiws einai sth logikh twn agorwn, na yparxoyn diakymanseis sto Xrhmatisthrio. Kai epanalambanw oti pantote emeis otan miloysame gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai tis ejelijeis s' ayto, eimaste ypeyqynoi kai miloysame me enan tetoio tropo poy kaqe allo para prodide yperhfaneia gia to o, ti petyxame kapoio megalo stoxo. Dioti gnwrizete poly kala pws yparxei mia idiaiterh logikh, mia aytonomia, enas aytomatismos sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy poy den mporoyme na ton ephreasoyme apolytws. Me ayth thn ennoia, loipon, den qa prepei na syndeete to ena me to allo. Oi epixeirhmatikoi kykloi, oi epixeirhmatikoi omiloi kanoyn tis dikes toys analyseis, tis dikes toys epiloges. Exoyn ayto to dikaiwma. Emeis exoyme dikaiwma, ypoxrewsh kai kaqhkon na diasfalisoyme ta symferonta toy Dhmosioy. Kaqe fora, loipon, poy pisteyoyme oti ayto epitygxanetai analogws qa proxwroyme. Otan den epitygxanetai ayto, pantote oi apofaseis mas qa einai antistoixes.\nFILHS: Dhladh h desmeysh poy eixe o k. Papantwnioy thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, oti to minimoym timhma gia thn pwlhsh ths IONIKHS qa einai gyrw sta 220 dis draxmes, den isxyei shmera;\nREPPAS: Den eipe akribws ayto o k. Papantwnioy, den ekane kapoia ejaggelia. O, ti exei pei o k. Papantwnioy isxyei. Gnwrizete poly kala poia einai ta epipeda sta opoia kineitai h ajia ths metoxhs ths IONIKHS Trapezas. Gnwrizete poly kala poio einai to pososto to opoio pwleitai. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti -opws kai xqes epanelabe o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias- dyo krithria qa lhfqoyn ypoch: H apolyth fereggyothta kai to eylogo kai dikaio toy timhmatos to opoio prosferetai gia thn agora toy paketoy metoxwn poy pwleitai.\nFILHS: To timhma poy eixe pei o k. Papantwnioy, 220 dis, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, isxyei shmera h oxi;\nREPPAS: Den qa orisoyme ayth thn wra thn timh pwlhshs, den to ekane pote h Kybernhsh. Eipame pantote, kai epanalambanw, oti h timh ths metoxhs einai ena shmeio odhgos, to opoio deixnei kai to epipedo sto opoio prepei na kinhqei to timhma gia thn agora toy paketoy metoxwn ths IONIKHS Trapezas.\nFILHS: Dhladh, h Kybernhsh den desmeyetai apo to shmerino epipedo ths xrhmatisthriakhs ajias ths metoxhs ths IONIKHS;\nREPPAS: Afoy eipa oti h ajia ths timhs ths metoxhs sto Xrhmatisthrio einai shmeio odhgos.\nFILHS: Th stigmh toy diagwnismoy h o mesos oros toy etoys, gia paradeigma;\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to eylogo kai dikaio toy timhmatos, krinetai thn wra poy yparxei mia sygkekrimenh protash. Otan ginei o diagwnismos kai ypoblhqoyn oi protaseis, qa ejetastoyn prokeimenoy na laboyme tis apofaseis mas, sto plaisio bebaiws ths genikoterhs politikhs. H telikh apofash afora to Symboylio ths EMPORIKHS Trapezas.\nMIXAHL: Pragmati, o k. Papantwnioy den prosdiorise akribes poso. Wstoso oles oi plhrofories poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai to analogo klima -poy sas rwthsan prohgoymenws kai apanthsate- diamorfwnan peripoy mia timh gyrw sta 220 dis draxmes. Eseis eipate oti den eyqyneste ws Kybernhsh gi' ayto. Poioi eyqynontai;\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti o katexwn ayto to ajiwma edw kai poly kairo, exei pacei na einai "kai plhroforiwn". Den exw kamia sxesh egw me plhrofories oi opoies diakinoyntai. Plhrofories oi opoies polles fores dioxeteyontai apo sygkekrimenes phges kai kentra, gia profaneis skopoys. H Kybernhsh den exei opoiadhpote sxesh me tetoies leitoyrgies kai diadikasies. H Kybernhsh xeirizetai ta qemata se ena epipedo diafaneias, me enan tetoio tropo wste na einai se oloys gnwsto to ti akribws prattei h Kybernhsh.\nMIXAHL: Apokleiete to endexomeno kapoioi kratikoi ajiwmatoyxoi h kybernhtikoi paragontes na dioxeteysan h na dhmioyrghsan ayto to klima, me enan yperballonta zhlo qa sas elega egw, alla apanthste moy epi ths oysias, apokleiete to endexomeno ayto;\nREPPAS: Poies plhrofories na kallierghsan;\nMIXAHL: Peri toy ycoys toy timhmatos, peri toy oti qa yparxei sigoyra antagwnismos...\nREPPAS: Ma, asfalws, giati den eixan kanena logo na to kanoyn.\nMIXAHL: Kai tosa, olo ayto to klima poy eisprattame toso kairo, poy lete eseis oti den eixate... Apo poy proerxotan;\nREPPAS: Giati qa prepei na apanthsw egw gia th dhmioyrgia enos klimatos gia to opoio den exoyme opoiadhpote eyqynh h syneisfora.\nMIXAHL: Apokleiete to endexomeno kapoioi ajiwmatoyxoi kybernhtikoi, kratikoi...\nREPPAS: Apanthsa s' ayto molis prin.\nMIXAHL: An telikws aytoi oi agnwstoi poy prosferan ayta ta ejwpragmatika -kata to klima- posa, apodeixqoyn fereggyoi, cajoyme kai broyme oti oi anqrwpoi oyte kleftes, oyte apatewnes einai, oyte...\nREPPAS: Den to eipe kaneis ayto.\nMIXAHL: Lew, cajoyme kai broyme oti einai kaqaroi kai apodeixqei apo thn ereyna. Tote; Den toys jerei kanenas aytoys mexri twra, alla exoyn "to koytelo kaqaro", ti qa kanete, qa toys dwsete;\nREPPAS: H apanthsh einai aytonohth: Asfalws kai qa agorasoyn thn Trapeza. Ma, den exei pei kaneis apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs, oti exoyme na prosacoyme otidhpote s' aytoys oi opoioi proshlqan ws ypochfioi agorastes. Ayto to opoio eipame kai epanalambanw einai oti ayth thn wra einai se ejelijh kai elpizw syntoma na oloklhrwqoyn oi elegktikes diadikasies, wste na gnwrizoyme akribws thn taytothta twn ypochfiwn agorastwn. Den exoyme probei se xarakthrismoys, giati akribws den exoyme stoixeia ta opoia qa mas epetrepan na kanoyme aytoys toys xarakthrismoys.\nPARIS: Epeidh h tash, opwsdhpote meta apo ayth thn ejelijh, qa einai ptwtikh gia sthn timh ths metoxhs ths IONIKHS kai mexri na erqei o neos diagwnismos, qa hqela na rwthsw ean h Kybernhsh exei ypoch ths kapoio minimoym plafon to opoio qa einai arketo wste na pwlhqei h IONIKH kai poio einai ayto;\nREPPAS: Kyrie Paris, den einai dynaton na mellontologhsoyme, na kanoyme ypoqeseis peri ths poreias toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Qa moy epitrecete na pw, pera apo ekproswpos ths Kybernhshs eimai enas anqrwpos o opoios den exei kamia sxesh me to Xrhmatisthrio, den diaqetw oyte mia metoxh opoiasdhpote etaireias. Mh me rwtate, loipon, kai mh qelete na syzhthsoyme twra peri toy an qa einai ptwtikh h qa einai anodikh h poreia sto Xrhmatisthrio. Den exei opoiadhpote sxesh ayto me to qema to opoio twra syzhtoyme.\nPARIS: Kybernhtikoi kykloi eixan qesei ena plafon, opws eipe kai o k. Filhs, to opoio epibebaiwnetai gyrw sta 220 dis. Ayth th stigmh h metoxh qa arxisei na peftei. Prepei na yparxei kapoia skech sthn Kybernhsh, poso dexetai na dwsei thn IONIKH, giati apo kei kai pera den qa th dwsei, den qa einai pwlhsh, apo kei kai pera qa qewrhqei jepoylhma. Poio einai ayto to epipedo; Ayto rwtw.\nREPPAS: O,ti eipa ston k. Filh, qa epanalabw kai se sas. Qa prosqesw, aplws, oti ayth thn wra poy den exoyme thn telikh apofash ths EMPORIKHS Trapezas, me kaleite na syzhthsoyme gia thn prokhryjh enos neoy diagwnismoy kai na prosdiorisoyme to eylogo kai dikaio timhma gia thn pwlhsh toy paketoy twn metoxwn. Pragma to opoio den mporei na ginei.\nSOYGLERHS: H Kybernhsh ektima oti paixthke kapoio paixnidi metajy twn ypochfiwn agorastwn gia na pesei h timh ths IONIKHS Trapezas;\nREPPAS: Den exoyme kapoia stoixeia gia na mporoyme na isxyristoyme kati tetoio.\nALEJAKH: Ayth akribws htan h erwthsh moy, an exete dei dhmosieymata poy miloyn gia paixnidi metajy twn dyo endiaferomenwn h kapoio paixnidi poy paizetai, to opoio eixe ws stoxo na rijei thn timh ths IONIKHS. Ayta ta dhmosieymata h Kybernhsh pws ta antimetwpizei; Yparxei tetoio endexomeno kata thn apoch sas, na paizetai ena tetoioy eidoys paixnidi; To blepete san endexomeno, to ejetazete; Giati qa mporoyse, qaymasia, na exoyme dyo etaireies poy na einai etaireies fantasmata, na diekdikoyn mia Trapeza, na akyrwsoyn ayto to diagwnismo, na pesei h timh ths IONIKHS opws ginetai kai opws qa ginei tis epomenes hmeres kai na thn agorasei kapoios m' ena pio eylogo timhma. Ayta ta paixnidia ginontai kai sto ejwteriko, giati na mhn exei ginei kai edw kati tetoio. To ejetazei ayto h Kybernhsh;\nREPPAS: To timhma einai eylogo. Den yparxei perissotero h ligotero eylogo. Ayto to opoio prepei na pw einai oti h ejelijh ayth mporei na exei ephreastei apo epiloges tis opoies ekanan epixeirhmatika diktya, ayto omws afora ta diktya ayta kai efoson leitoyrgoyn synnoma den epitrepetai se mas na krinoyme tis epiloges poy kanoyn. Giati bebaiws qeloyn kai ekeina na diasfalisoyn ta dika toys symferonta. Ayto poy apomenei se mas einai na diasfalisoyme ta symferonta toy Dhmosioy. Gi' ayto akribws ana pasa stigmh, otan kai pali exoyme na antimetwpisoyme analoga qemata, thn idia qesh qa paroyme. Qa milhsoyme gia to dikaio kai eylogo timhma kai gia thn apolyth fereggyothta poy prepei na ejasfalizontai. Ayth einai h grammh pleyshs mas kai den allazei, se kaqe periptwsh.\nALEJAKH: Me th diafora oti den yparxei ena plafon. An yphrxe ena dikaio kai eylogo timhma, "peripoy toso"...\nREPPAS: Sas eipa oti gia epixeirhseis oi opoies einai eishgmenes sto Xrhmatisthrio, ws odhgos xrhsimopoieitai h xrhmatisthriakh timh ths metoxhs toys. Ayto einai kati poy dieqnws einai paradekto kai isxyei.\nKARAGIANNH: Eipate, prohgoymenws, oti otan mia Trapeza den einai toso elkystikh gia toys epixeirhmaties den eyqynetai h Kybernhsh h o armodios Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias. H Ionikh Trapeza exei ena fortismeno politika parelqon. Me dedomenh th xqesinh ejelijh h Kybernhsh den aisqanetai thn anagkh na analabei endexomenes politikes eyqynes gia ton tropo poy xeiristhke thn poreia ths Trapezas pros thn idiwtikopoihsh;\nREPPAS: Prwton, h diadikasia ayth den oloklhrwqhke, wste na exoyme th dynatothta na bgaloyme to teliko symperasma. Deyteron, an poyme oti shmera apofasizei h Emporikh Trapeza na khryjei akarpo to diagwnismo, kanoyme ayth thn ypoqesh, gnwrizete -to eipa allwste- oti syntoma o diagwnismos qa epanalhfqei, opws egine kai se alles periptwseis. Qa perimenoyme, loipon, na oloklhrwqoyn ola ayta ta stadia kai otan pleon exoyme mia katastalagmenh kai diamorfwmenh katastash qa mporoyme na thn krinoyme, pragma to opoio den prepei na ginei twra. H Ionikh Trapeza, symfwnw mazi sas, asfalws sto prosfato parelqon antimetwpise polla problhmata. Edw syzhtwntas, sto plaisio ths kaqhmerinhs politikhs enhmerwshs, kat' epanalhch sxoliasa pws oi apergiakes kinhtopoihseis, se kapoio baqmo, apajiwsan thn Trapeza h thn epibarynan, etsi wste monon arnhtikh yphresia mporei na pei kaneis oti proseferan oi ergazomenoi me tis kinhtopoihseis toys. Ayto, omws, einai kati to opoio exei perasei. H Ionikh Trapeza pleon "bghke" stis diagwnistikes diadikasies, prokeimenoy na metabibastei to pleiochfiko paketo twn metoxwn ths. Ayto poy exei shmasia twra einai h diadikasia ayth na oloklhrwqei, eite twra, eite s` ena epomeno stadio, an apobei shmera akarpos o diagwnismos, me tetoio tropo, wste na diasfalizontai ta symferonta ths Trapezas. Ayto qa kanei h Kybernhsh.\nELENOPOYLOS: To gegonos oti h Kybernhsh, meta thn entajh ths draxmhs sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn, sxedon kata apolyto tropo taytise thn epityxia ths politikhs ths sto oikonomiko epipedo kai kyriws thn entajh ths sthn ONE me thn ylopoihsh toy paketoy metoxopoihsewn, mhpws, telika, apodeiknyetai shmera, meta apo tis kapoies agones en pash periptwsei stigmes kapoiwn diagwnismwn -anaferomai kai sthn prohgoymenh Trapeza, alla kai twra sthn Ionikh- oti dhmioyrgei arnhtikes proypoqeseis s` ayth thn poreia;\nREPPAS: Oi ejelijeis aytes deixnoyn isa-isa th dyskolia toy egxeirhmatos. Apotelei, qa elega, titlo timhs h dyskolia ayth gia thn Kybernhsh, h opoia meta apo para polla xronia einai h prwth Kybernhsh poy tolmhse na proxwrhsei se diarqrwtikes allages, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme to kentriko stoxo mas, poy einai h entajh sthn ONE, h anaptyjh ths xwras me koinwnikh eyaisqhsia. Ayto, omws, to opoio den prepei na diafeygei kai apo esas kai apo emas einai toyto: Den exei oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia. Eite milame sxetika me thn Ionikh Trapeza, eite sxetika me ta Katasthmata Aforologhtwn Eidwn. Otan oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia qa mporoyme na bgaloyme to teliko symperasma. H diadikasia ayth einai se ejelijh. Kai h diadikasia twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn genikws qa proxwrhsei me bash ton programmatismo mas. Aytes oi dyskolies se kapoio baqmo htan anamenomenes. Giati, bebaiws, gia prwth fora tolma sthn patrida mas Kybernhsh na proxwrhsei stis anagkaies ejygiantikes tomes gia na odhghsei th xwra -san mia isxyrh xwra- ston 21o aiwna.\nGKOGKAS: Yparxei kapoia plhroforhsh sthn Kybernhsh gia to epeisodio poy egine sthn Kypro; Qa hqela ena sxolio.\nREPPAS: Shmera to prwi gyrw stis 5 h wra, ta jhmerwmata, sthn perioxh Paralimnioy ths Kyproy Toyrkoi stratiwtes pyrobolhsan enantion Ellhnwn caradwn. Den epaqe tipota kaneis apo toys carades. To sxolio to opoio mporw na kanw gi` ayto einai oti oi dynameis katoxhs prospaqoyn me kaqe tropo na apodeijoyn oti exoyn kratikh ypostash kai ontothta. Sas ypenqymizw oti thn prohgoymenh ebdomada synelaban 11 Syroys carades anoikta ths Kyproy. Probainoyn se tetoies kinhseis, prokeimenoy na apodeijoyn oti einai kratos, oti exoyn ejoysia, thn opoia ypotiqetai oti askoyn. To epeisodio ayto exei lhjei. Eytyxws, den eixame opoiadhpote dysmenh troph. Den eixame traymatismoys. O xarakthras twn dynamewn katoxhs einai gnwstos. Paramenei panta o idios.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: H Kybernhsh symfwnei me th qesh poy phre o k. Pagkalos, xqes, gia toys S-300 oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh den apofasizei, alla monon h kypriakh;\nREPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti kat` epanalhch exoyme pei oti h Kypros einai kratos-melos toy OHE. H Kypriakh Kybernhsh exei th dikh ths ypostash kai ontothta, exei th dikh ths aytonomia. Oydeis mporei na thn ypokatasthsei. Ayto den shmainei, bebaiws, oti den exoyme thn koinh eyqynh na xeirizomaste to megalo eqniko qema ths Kyproy kai ta epimeroys qemata. Pantote eimaste sthn idia eyqeia grammh gia na yperaspistoyme to dikaio ths prospaqeias ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs gia dikaih kai biwsimh lysh toy Kypriakoy. Ayta einai logika, einai aytonohta kai den prepei na dhmioyrgoyntai opoiesdhpote paranohseis, giati kapoies dhmioyrghqhkan, apo tetoies dhlwseis.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Symfwneite h den symfwneite me th qesh toy k. Pagkaloy;\nREPPAS: Oloi symfwnoyme me th qesh toy k. Pagkaloy. Kai h Kypriakh Kybernhsh symfwnei me th qesh toy k. Pagkaloy kai h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, ths opoias einai Ypoyrgos o k. Pagkalos, afoy o k. Pagkalos ejefrase th dedomenh politikh twn dyo kybernhsewn.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: O Proedros ths Kyproy ejefrase thn ekplhjh toy en merei gia th dhlwsh toy k. Pagkaloy, an eidate ta thlegrafhmata.\nREPPAS: Antiqetws, eipe oti den dhmioyrgeitai opoiadhpote ekplhjh h aifnidiasmos. Kai logiko einai ayto. O k. Pagkalos epanelabe kati to opoio einai gnwsto. Den eipe kati kainoyrgio. Kai otan les kati gnwsto, oyte aifnidiazeis, oyte ekplhsseis.\nBITSENTZOY: Me poio skeptiko anatiqetai se mia allh Kybernhsh, opws ayth toy k. Klhridh, mia sobarh apofash opws ayth ths egkatastashs twn S-300, h opoia qa mporoyse piqanon na emplejei th dikh mas xwra se mia stratiwtikh anametrhsh me thn Toyrkia;\nREPPAS: Prwt` apo ola to oti ta qemata ayta antimetwpizontai apo koinoy apodeiknyetai apo to gegonos oti kai meqayrio, gia mia akomh fora, yparxei ayth h oysiastikh kai eyreia syskech metajy twn dyo Kybernhsewn sthn Aqhna. Epishs, gia mia akomh fora, epanalambanw th qesh oti den prepei na pagideytoyme s` ayto to paixnidi twn Toyrkwn poy qeloyn to politiko qema ths Kyproy, ena dieqnes problhma, na to metatrecoyn se qema promhqeias kai egkatastashs twn pyraylwn S-300 kai monon. Pisteyoyme oti ola ta qemata poy aforoyn thn Kypro antimetwpizontai me th deoysa eqnikh eyqynh apo tis dyo Kybernhseis. Einai eyqygrammismenes oi dyo Kybernhseis sthn prospaqeia ayth. Den prepei, omws, na katalyetai h aytonomia ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs poy qa odhgoyse isws se ypobaqmish ths ontothtas toy kypriakoy kratoys, poy einai ena kratos me plhrh dikaiwmata, opws ola ta alla krath toy OHE. Kai ayto prepei na einai safes.\nBITSENTZOY: Ypoqetw pws h yparjh toy dogmatos toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy poy synapofasisthke apo thn prohgoymenh estw Kybernhsh toy PASOK kai thn Kypriakh Kybernhsh ypoxrewnei thn ellhnikh pleyra na synapofasizei gia krisima zhthmata poy pragmatika aforoyn kai ton ellhniko lao. Etsi den einai; Kai to lew ayto giati xqes o k. Pagkalos eipe oti h egkatastash twn S-300 einai ypoqesh ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs.\nREPPAS: To qema toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy isxyei. Ayto den shmainei oti kaqe xwra, kaqe kratos den qa pairnei tis apofaseis toy, prokeimenoy na diasfalisei thn amyna toy. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh apofasizei gia to diko ths ejoplistiko programma kai h Kypriakh Kybernhsh qa parei tis dikes ths apofaseis. Logw, omws, akribws ths idiaiterothtas ths katastashs stis apofaseis aytes ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs poly konta brisketai h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Sthn prospaqeia ayth eimaste taytismenoi. Allwste, den xreiazetai to dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy gia na kanoyme to xreos mas, giati h Ellada einai eggyhtria dynamh, edw kai arketa xronia. Kai ta dikaiwmata kai tis ejoysies poy exei ta askei ws eggyhtria dynamh. Ara, loipon, h Ellada einai eggyhtria dynamh kai einai ayth h opoia proxwrhse apo koinoy me thn Kypro sto dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy. Ayto to plaisio einai poy prosdiorizei tis ypoxrewseis kai ta kaqhkonta poy exoyme apenanti sthn Kypro. H synergasia twn dyo Kybernhsewn einai aristh.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy den xreiazetai to dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy giati to kanate;\nREPPAS: Ayto katalabate;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy eipate oti einai eggyhtria, den xreiazetai lete.\nREPPAS: Den eipa tetoio pragma. Eipa oti poly prin apo to dogma toy EAX yphrje h Ellada eggyhtria dynamh kai exei analabei sygkekrimenes ypoxrewseis tis opoies askei, antapokrinetai s` aytes. To dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy, to opoio apofasisame apo koinoy me thn Kypro eipa oti isxyei kai ayto apolytws. Kai ta dyo ayta orizoyn to plaisio entos toy opoioy kinoyntai oi dyo Kybernhseis. Ayto eipa.\nFILHS: Xqes, sas rwthsa poia einai h qesh ths Kybernhshs, ean qewrei oti h apofash toy Proedroy Klinton na xtyphsei sto Afganistan kai sto Soydan stoxoys einai entos twn dieqnwn nomimwn. Eipate oti perimenete mia enhmerwsh, ws Kybernhsh, apo thn Oyasigkton. Hrqe h enhmerwsh;\nREPPAS: H qesh mas paramenei ayth poy eipa xqes. Den exoyme kati neotero gia to qema ayto.\nBAREMENOS: Exete na peite kati gia thn apofash toy Symboylioy ths Epikrateias oti den apaiteitai pleon orkos, alla h epiklhsh toy logoy timhs;\nREPPAS: Den qa krinw mia apofash toy anwtatoy Dikasthrioy.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Tuesday, 25 August 1998 - 16:00:09 UTC


url: = M. Rentsi: Olh h hpeiros parakoloyqei tis ejelijeis sthn Ellada\n Sygxarhthria ston Alejh Tsipra apo Ntonalnt Toysk kai Axmet Ntaboytogloy\n Sthn Aqhna thn Pempth o Martin Soylts\n Nekroi oi dyo Ellhnes pilotoi toy F-16 poy synetribh sthn Ispania\n Geroyn Ntaiselmploym: Prosblepoyme se synergasia me th nea kybernhsh\n Ypobaqmish ths Rwsias apo ton Standard & Poor's\n Zwntanos sth maxh ths paramonhs o Ergotelhs\nO prwqypoyrgos ths Italias Mateo Rentsi synexarh shmera ton Alejh Tsipra gia th nikh toy stis boyleytikes ekloges, epishmainontas toy oti ton parakoloyqei olh h Eyrwph.\n"H proklhsh poy antimetwpizete einai asfalws dyskolh", anefere o Italos prwqypoyrgos sth sygxarhthria epistolh toy pros ton neo prwqypoyrgo ths Elladas. "Mia oloklhrh hpeiros parakoloyqei tis ellhnikes politikes ejelijeis", shmeiwse.\nO Rentsi, poy prospaqei na periorisei to xreos twn 2 trisekatommyriwn eyrw ths Italias en mesw ths triths yfeshs ths xwras mesa se mia ejaetia, exei zhthsei kat' epanalhch apo tis Bryjelles na epikentrwqoyn perissotero sthn anaptyjh para sta metra litothtas. H krish xreoys ths Elladas qewrhqhke apeilhtikh gia th staqerothta ths Italias to 2011 kaqws ektojeyse sta ych to kostos daneismoy sthn perifereia ths eyrwzwnhs.\nSygxarhthrio thlefwnhma apo ton proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, Ntonalnt Toysk kai ton prwqypoyrgo ths Toyrkias, Axmet Ntaboytogloy, oi opoioi ton proskalesan se Bryjelles kai Agkyra, antistoixa, dexqhke shmera o prwqypoyrgos, Alejhs Tsipras.\nEpishs, sygxarhthria thlefwnhmata dexthke o k. Tsipras apo ton proedro ths Bolibias, Ebo Morales, ton prwqypoyrgo toy Hnwmenoy Basileioy Nteibint Kameron kai ton proedro twn Sosialistwn sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio, Tziani Pitela.\nO proedros toy eyrwpaikoy koinoboylioy, Martin Soylts, qa einai o prwtos jenos ajiwmatoyxos poy qa episkefqei thn Aqhna kai qa exei synanthsh me ton prwqypoyrgo, Alejh Tsipra.\nH synanthsh qa pragmatopoihqei thn Pempth stis 15.00. Symfwna me ektimhseis phgwn toy SYRIZA, o k. Soylts den erxetai gia zhthmata poy aforoyn to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio alla gia th diapragmateysh ths neas ellhnikhs kybernhshs me toys daneistes. Symfwna me thn idia phgh, o k. Soylts qelei na diamorfwsei idian antilhch gia tis qeseis ths neas ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai na tis metaferei sto Berolino.\nHdh, parathroyn oi idies phges, einai h deyterh kinhsh poy ginetai pros thn Aqhna kai ton Alejh Tsipra, me prwth thn prosklhsh toy Galloy Proedroy, Fransoya Olant, poy proskalese ton Alejh Tsipra sto Parisi prin apo th Synodo Koryfhs ths EE ths 12hs Febroyarioy, epishmainontas oti h diapragmateysh, estw anepishmh, exei hdh arxisei.\nMartin Soylts: Koryfaia allagh sthn Ellada poy qa exei antiktypo sthn Eyrwph\nDeka anqrwpoi exasan th zwh toys kai 19 traymatisthkan otan ena maxhtiko ths ellhnikhs Polemikhs Aeroporias synetribh kaqws apogeiwnotan gia na parei meros se mia ekpaideytikh askhsh toy NATO sth notia Ispania, peftontas panw se alla aeroplana ta opoia briskontan se xwro staqmeyshs aeroskafwn, symfwna me osa exei anakoinwsei to ypoyrgeio Amynas ths Ispanias.\nOi dyo xeiristes toy maxhtikoy F-16 ths ellhnikhs PA einai anamesa stoys nekroys.\nAlloi pilotoi kai mhxanikoi briskontan sto xwro opoy staqmeyoyn aeroskafh otan to F-16 synetribh, metedwsan ispanika mesa enhmerwshs.\nTo dystyxhma shmeiwqhke peri tis 15:20 (16:20 wra Elladas) sthn aeroporikh bash Los Gianos, sthn polh Almpaqete, peripoy 260 xlm. notioanatolika ths Madriths. To aeroskafos, to opoio symmeteixe se ena programma ekpaideyshs pilotwn twn enoplwn dynamewn kratwn melwn toy NATO, toy legomenoy Tactical Leadership Programme (TLP), ``th stigmh ths apogeiwshs ypesth apwleia isxyos kai synetribh se enan xwro staqmeyshs aeroskafwn'' ths bashs, ``epese kai prokalese zhmies se polla apo ta aeroplana ta opoia briskontan ekei'', anefere ekproswpos toy ispanikoy ypoyrgeioy Amynas nwritera.\nO ypoyrgos Amynas ths Ispanias Pedro Morenes anamenotan ston topo toy dystyxhmatos.\nSygkexymenes einai oi plhrofories oson afora thn eqnikothta twn ypoloipwn nekrwn, peran twn Ellhnwn xeiristwn toy maxhtikoy To galliko ypoyrgeio Amynas anakoinwse oti enas Gallos einai nekros kai pente sobara traymaties.\n``Symfwna me tis plhrofories poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas ayth th stigmh, qrhnoyme enan nekro enw exoyn katametrhqei pente sobara traymaties'' stis tajeis toy proswpikoy twn enoplwn dynamewn ths Gallias, opws anefere se mia anakoinwsh toy to ypoyrgeio Amynas sto Parisi, prosqetontas oti o Gallos ypoyrgos Amynas Zan-Ib Lentrian qa metabei ayrio Trith ston topo toy dystyxhmatos.\nOmws prin apo ligo, o prwqypoyrgos ths Ispanias Mariano Raxoi anefere oti oi Galloi poy exasan th zwh toys einai oktw.\n``Fainetai oti oi dyo anqrwpoi poy exasan th zwh toys einai Ellhnes yphkooi kai (oi ypoloipoi) oktw Galloi'', dhlwse o prwqypoyrgos Raxoi erwthqeis se apeyqeias metadosh apo to ispaniko thleoptiko diktyo Telecinco. Mexri twra den eixan ginei gnwstes oi eqnikothtes twn qymatwn apo tis arxes.\nEn anamonh twn qesewn ths neas ellhnikhs kybernhshs sta oikonomika zhthmata telei to Eurogroup, symfwna me tis dhlwseis toy proedroy toy, Geroyn Ntaiselmploym, shmera stis Bryjelles.\nKata th diarkeia synenteyjhs Typoy poy paraxwrhse ligo meta th lhjh twn ergasiwn toy Eurogroup, o G. Ntaiselmploym synexarh th nea ellhnikh kybernhsh kai ta kommata poy metexoyn se aythn, tonizontas oti to Eurogroup prosblepei se synergasia mazi ths, opws allwste synergasthke kai me thn aperxomenh kybernhsh. ``Prepei na epitrecoyme sth nea ellhnikh kybernhsh na prosdiorisei th qesh ths kai ton tropo me ton opoio qelei na proxwrhsei'' dhlwse o G. Ntaiselmploym. Tonise, epishs oti paramenei se ekkremothta h oloklhrwsh ths pempths ajiologhshs kai ejefrase thn etoimothta ths Eyrwzwnhs na sthrijei thn Ellada se ayto to ergo. Opws eipe, yparxei akoma xronos ews to epomeno Eurogroup toy Febroyarioy.\nApo thn pleyra toy, o epitropos Oikonomias, Pier Moskobisi, tonise oti einai qetiko to gegonos oti sxhmatisthke taxista h nea ellhnikh kybernhsh, h opoia pianei amesws doyleia. O idios tonise oti oi proklhseis paramenoyn shmantikes, kyriws se o,ti afora tis metarryqmiseis. Anagnwrise oti h Ellada exei kanei terasties qysies kai dyskoles epiloges, oi opoies sthrixqhkan apo thn Eyrwzwnh. Opws eipe, oi prospaqeies aytes apodidoyn karpoys me thn epistrofh ths anaptyjhs, th meiwsh ths anergias, enw idiaitera qetika einai ta apotelesmata stoys tomeis toy toyrismoy kai ths naytilias.\nO oikos ajiologhshs Standard & Poor's ypobaqmise shmera kata mia baqmida thn pistolhptikh ikanothta ths Rwsias, poy pleon brisketai sthn kathgoria BB+, katw dhladh apo to epipedo ths ependyshs.\nDikaiologwntas thn apofash toy na rijei th Mosxa sta ``skoypidia'' kai xwris na apokleiei thn peraiterw ypobaqmish toy rwsikoy ajioxreoy, o S&P ekane logo gia thn epideinwsh ths nomismatikhs eyelijias ths xwras, kaqws kai thn katarreysh twn prooptikwn anaptyjhs ths.\nSta mesa Ianoyarioy o ypoyrgos Oikonomias Alejei Oylioykaef eixe xarakthrisei "arketa isxyrh" thn piqanothta ypobaqmishs ths Rwsias apo toys oikoys ajiologhshs. O S&P eixe proeidopoihsei th xwra apo ton Dekembrio, meta thn istorikh ptwsh toy royblioy poy byqise th xwra sth xeiroterh nomismatikh krish twn teleytaiwn 15 etwn.\nZwntanos sth maxh ths paramonhs emeine o Ergotelhs, poy petyxe megalo diplo sta Xania epi toy Platania me 2-1, sto mats me to opoio epese h ``aylaia'' ths 20hs agwnistikhs toy prwtaqlhmatos ths Soyper Ligkas. O Goyndoylakhs anoije to skor gia toys ghpedoyxoys sto 22o deyterolepto, enw gia thn omada toy Hrakleioy isofarise o Kale sto 77' kai 9 lepta meta o Gioysoyf oloklhrwse th megalh anatroph.\nMe terma toy Mpexerano sto prwto lepto twn kaqysterhsewn toy agwna, o Panaitwlikos phre to baqmo ths isopalias (1-1) apenanti ston Atromhto, se anametrhsh gia thn 20h agwnistikh ths Soyper Ligkas poy diejhxqh sto Agrinio. Oi filojenoymenoi eixan anoijei to skor molis sto 11o deyterolepto toy mats, me plase toy Oympintes. O Panaitwlikos me thn isopalia paremeine sthn 5h qesh toy baqmologikoy pinaka, enw o Atromhtos diathrhqhke sthn 7h.


url: =Taxista ofeilei h kybernhsh na proxwrhsei sthn amesh kai antikeimenikh ektimhsh twn zhmiwn kai sthn katabolh twn apozhmiwsewn dhlwse o proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias Kwstas Karamanlhs kata thn periodeia toy ston nomo Pellas opoy episkefqhke plhgeises apo tis fetines qeomhnies perioxes.\nSymfwna me ton k.Karamanlh, gia na mporesoyn na orqopodhsoyn oi paragwgoi, einai anagkaio na katablhqei amesws, ws prokatabolh, to 50% ths ektimhshs toy ELGA kai oi ofeilomenes persines apozhmiwseis apo tis katastrofes poy ypesthsan oi paragwgoi apo to xalazi. Opws eipe xarakthristika, h kybernhsh exei thn apokleistikh eyqynh gia th dramatikh ypobaqmish toy eisodhmatos twn agrotwn mas ta teleytaia xronia, gia thn apwleia jenwn agorwn gia ta Ellhnika proionta kai gia thn plhrh adynamia toy ELGA na antapokriqei sthn apostolh toy.\n``Akoysame xqes ton k. Shmith na epikrinei to komma toy kai thn kybernhsh toy gia ta problhmata poy exoyn sysswreytei me dikh toys eyqynh. Kai anarwtietai kaneis: den einai o k. Shmiths Prwqypoyrgos ta teleytaia oktw xronia; Den einai to PASOK sthn ejoysia ta teleytaia 20 xronia; anarwthqhke o k.Karamanlhs.\nNwritera, o proedros ths ND episkefqhke ton arxaiologiko xwro toy dhmoy Pellas kai to konserbopoieio ths Enwshs Agrotikwn Synetairismwn Giannitswn. Parapona apo toys agrotes gia tis zhmies poy exoyn ypostei sthn paragwgh toys, akoyse o k.Karamanlhs kata thn episkech toy stis plhgeises apo tis prosfates qeomhnies perioxes ths Kryas Bryshs opoy oi agrotes ejefrasan thn apognwsh toys.\nSth synexeia episkefqhke ton nomarxh Pellas kai ton proedro toy Emporikoy kai Biomhxanikoy Epimelhthrioy Pellas enw to apogeyma qa milhsei se syskech me ekproswpoys paragwgikwn tajewn sta Giannitsa.\nAyrio to prwi, qa episkefqoyn ton k.Karamanlh sto jenodoxeio opoy diamenei sthn Beroia, oi goneis twn maqhtwn apo to Makroxwri poy exasan thn zwh toys sto troxaio dystyxhma sta Temph.\nana2html v2.01 run on Friday, 4 July 2003 - 20:30:13 UTC