url: =Ti den mas arese sto STAR WARS (PT &OT) | Page 2 | Jedi Council Forums\nPaidia egw pistevw pws h nea trilogia den sigrinetai kan me thn palia.(den eimai kanas palios.Genithika to 87 ! )\nAfto isws ekshgeitai kapws apo ton periorismo poy eixe o Lucas na ftiaksei mia nea trilogia tetoia wste na thn diadexetai h palia.\nPantws o Jar Jar Binks tha mporouse n mhn yparxei kan(oute kai oi Gungans) kathws kai diafores vlakeies opws gia paradeigma h TERASTIAS HLITHIOTHTAS ASTOXIAS twn stormtroopers sto A.N.H. (otan o Luke kai Leia htan eglwvismenoi se ena steno sto Death Star.)Symfwnw epishs me ta Ewoks (kanoun thn taineia pio paidiastikh opws kai O Binks.)\nKai mia erwthsh : An akousa kala h Padme tha pethanei sto telos tou RotS ? An nai pws leei h Leia sto RotJ pws thimatai thn mhtera ths ?\n---Pantws o Jar Jar Binks tha mporouse n mhn yparxei kan(oute kai oi Gungans) kathws kai diafores vlakeies opws gia paradeigma h TERASTIAS HLITHIOTHTAS ASTOXIAS twn stormtroopers sto A.N.H. (otan o Luke kai Leia htan eglwvismenoi se ena steno sto Death Star.)Symfwnw epishs me ta Ewoks (kanoun thn taineia pio paidiastikh opws kai O Binks.)\nSimfono se ola.\n---Kai mia erwthsh : An akousa kala h Padme tha pethanei sto telos tou RotS ? An nai pws leei h Leia sto RotJ pws thimatai thn mhtera ths?\nApo ta spoilers,KerSoth fige,krata tin Leia sta xeria tis gia ligo k meso tis Dinamis exoun mia mikri sindesi metaksi tous,kati pou de ginetai me ton Luke.Afto\nVasiki erotisi pou exo na sou kano: Theoreis tin palia trilogia os iperapistefta epi kai les oti kai i kainouria me tis diorthoseis tha ginei san tis palies?\nNa sou pw. Den einai epi typou Lord of the Rings i Lawrence tis Arabias alla oi stigmes pou sou sikwnetai i trixa einai polles:\nTo A New Hope, an kai to pio bareto olwn gia mena, exei ola ta basika pou perimeneis apo mia tainia - "paramythi" ( o Lucas eipe pws einai tetoia, & etsi ksekinane ola: "A long, long time ago..."). Ta logia tou Obi-Wan kai oi yponoies pou afinontai gia tin Dynami kai tous Jedi, o Vader & to mystirio pou ton peribalei, ola ayta.\nTo Empire Strikes Back einai omws tromero: Kai mono i apokalypsi tou Vader pros to telos arkei alla exeis kai eikones typou: To Super Star Destroyer tou Vader na planatai apeilitiko, ton idio na pnigei aksiwmatikous sxedon se kathe skini, tin emfanisi tou Aytokratora, ton Han Solo na pilotarei to Falcon mesa stous asteroideis, tin Cloud City, ton YODA na didaskei ton Luke, ton Obi-Wam na emfanizetai ws fantasma... Ola boithane, to senario, i mousiki kai oi topothesies stis opoies symbainoun ola.\nSto Return of the Jedi, exeis ftasei sto telos. O orismos tou epous einai i poreia tou iroa ws to telos, i opoia ekseliksi eixe stin diarkeia tou taksidiou tou, oi kindynoi kai oi dokimasies pou antimetwpise. O Luke ksekina san agrotis gia na kataliksei fully trained Jedi, gia na antimetwpisei ton patera tou enw o Diavolos o idios steketai pio pera kai gelaei mazi tous... San arxaia tragwdia sto diastima...\nPou einai i tragwdia sta Prequels? Otan milane, milane, milane sto Senate Chamber sto TPM? Otan oi Jedi kaaaathontai xalllara ston Coruscant kai den kanoun tipota? Otan symbainoun tosa pragmata pou anairoun alla pou eipwthikan stin palia trilogia? O Obi-Wan bgainei synexeia pseftis & i Leia thymatai tin mitera tis mesw tis Dynamis. Wraia.\nDen einai oti peirazoun ola aparaitita, alla ti ton peiraze ton Lucas na kanei kapoia apla pragmata, px:\nSto ANH, o Obi-Wan leei ston Luke oti "your uncle thought your father should have stayed home and not follow Obi-Ean on some damn' fool idealistic crusade"...\nTo Attack of the Clones tha mporouse na min exei apolytws kammia diafora, apla na teleiwnei me ton gamo twn Anakin & Padme kai meta na feygoun gia mia eiriniki zwi ston Tattoine, mazi me ta eterothali aderfia tou Anakin. Meta sto ROTS, o Obi-Wan erxetai kai tou leei pws ton xreiazontai, oi Jedi exoun xasei megalo arithmo kai aytos einai o kalyteros pilotos, ktl, ktl. Kai feygoun gia tin maxi tou Coruscant, opws akribws ksekinaei i tainia...\nOute i palia, oute i kainouria trilogia einai teleies. Alla gia tin kainouria, oi prosdokies itan megales. Pws mporouse na paei kati straba: O idios o dimiourgos skinothetei, to cast einai fobero kai ta xrimata den einai problima. Alla sxedon tipota apo ayta pou yponoithikan stin palia trilogia den ginane i ginane alliws. Den leme gia genika kai aorista pragmata, alla gia pragmata pou anaferthikane leptomerws (exw grapsei merika se proigoumeno post). Oi tainies blepontai kati parapanw apo eyxarista, as edine ligo prosoxi kai stis leptomereies.\nP.S.: Den tha blepw to Revenge of the Sith kai tha lew "Oh, ti ma**kia egine twra" kai "ayto den tairiazei me tin palia trilogia". Tha paw kai tha goustarw. Tha dw to Duel twn Duels alla giati na min niwthw akoma pio syneparmenos, exontas dei stis 2 proigoumenes tainies aytous tous dyo na einai KOLLHTOI / "PATERAS & GIOS" kai oxi aplos dyo xaraktires pou fainetai san aplws na milane...\nObi-Kris_Kenobi, May 14, 2005\n---Na sou pw. Den einai epi typou Lord of the Rings i Lawrence tis Arabias alla oi stigmes pou sou sikwnetai i trixa einai polles:\nGrrr,i aparaititi sigkrisi me to LotR.Afou allo to ena k allo to allo,parolo pou einai k ta 2 fantasy.Opos k na exei,ta LotR ta theoro metria metafora k poli kali prospatheia tou Jackson,alla metria.K ekeinos tha mporouse na exei kanei tis tainies kaliteres(an exeis diavasei ta vivlia tha katalaveis),o tipos eixe sxedon etoimo senario,mono afaireseis itan na kanei oxi allages!Oso gia ton Lawrence,emena den mou sikose tin trixa.Isos na einai logo tis epoxis pou zo,alla einai epos mono apo orismo k oxi apo xaraktirismo.Se kavlonei toso oso to SW(gia na to po oma)?Afto ennoo otan rotao epos.\n---Nai,simfono alla na prosthso k tin eironeia mou:Arxaia tragodia sto diastima me Ewoks.\nAfto pou paratirisa einai oti exeis perigrapsei genikologa ta Ep 4,5,6 gia to geniko senario tous pou fisika gamei k dernei,alla ta kainouria ta ksepsirizeis skini skini.Postare to geniko senario ton Prequel kai ksepsirise tin OT k tha deis tin glika .Vasika kali idea,tha to kano ego se ligo!\n---Pou einai i tragwdia sta Prequels? Otan milane, milane, milane sto Senate Chamber sto TPM? Otan oi Jedi kaaaathontai xalllara ston Coruscant kai den kanoun tipota?\nPerimeno to Ep3 gia na apantiso pliros.I Senate einai ta politika meri pou eleipan stin OT giati eixame POLEMO,eno edo oxi.To oti oi Guardians of Peace and Justice arazoun einai apo mono tou tragodia kai makroprothesma tha ferei k se aftous ti diki tous tragodia.O GL to exei pei.Oi Jedi einai parikmasmenoi apo tin kaloperasi.Sto novel tou Ep2 leei para poli eksipna:"O Obi Wan omos oso kalos k na itan sto lightsaber eixe ekpaideftei kirios se texnikes na apofevgei laser k oxi gia na antimetopizei alla lightsaber.Etsi fanike i iperoxi tou Dooku.".Oi Jedi exoun efisixastei akoma k ekei!An to psakseis tha deis oti ola stin PT exoun pio vathos apo oti fainontai.\n---Otan symbainoun tosa pragmata pou anairoun alla pou eipwthikan stin palia trilogia? O Obi-Wan bgainei synexeia pseftis & i Leia thymatai tin mitera tis mesw tis Dynamis. Wraia. plain\nOK,gia mena tora afto gamei k dernei,oti o Ben egine k ligo antras k leei psemmata,oxi skatifloros(me tin kali ennoia) pou einai san olous tous gkou gkou kalus Jedi.Oso gia tin Leia,apla den me noiazei,afou dothike mia pistefti eksigisi,eimai cool.\n---Sto ANH, o Obi-Wan leei ston Luke oti "your uncle thought your father should have stayed home and not follow Obi-Ean on some damn' fool idealistic crusade"...\nPsemmata.O Kenobi einai Theos!Otan enas 18xronos akouei gia idealistic Crusade kavlonei.Afto ithele na pathei k o Luke k to petixe(tora den eida kato apo tis robes tou ti egine ).\n---To Attack of the Clones tha mporouse na min exei apolytws kammia diafora, apla na teleiwnei me ton gamo twn Anakin & Padme kai meta na feygoun gia mia eiriniki zwi ston Tattoine, mazi me ta eterothali aderfia tou Anakin. Meta sto ROTS, o Obi-Wan erxetai kai tou leei pws ton xreiazontai, oi Jedi exoun xasei megalo arithmo kai aytos einai o kalyteros pilotos, ktl, ktl. Kai feygoun gia tin maxi tou Coruscant, opws akribws ksekinaei i tainia...\nPoli kali idea.Otan kaneis diko sou epos vale kati analogo mesa!To piases?Den eironevomai.Afto ontos einai klassiko paradeigma se afto to thread.Ti tha allazes?Esi tha to allazes,ego oxi.Eimaste cool!\n---Oute i palia, oute i kainouria trilogia einai teleies. Alla gia tin kainouria, oi prosdokies itan megales. Pws mporouse na paei kati straba: O idios o dimiourgos skinothetei, to cast einai fobero kai ta xrimata den einai problima. Alla sxedon tipota apo ayta pou\nLoipoooooon,meta ton mpoufe,ora gia to 2o meros tis dialeksis...\nPame na knao mia perilipsi ton tainion tis PT kai meta na ksepsiriso ena ena ta lathi ton tainion tis OT.Etoimoi?Sto Apeiro kai akom...kala,kala ksekinao:\n-Sto Epeisodio 1 vlepoume enan galaxia elefthero kai eiriniko,otan arxizoun anataraxes se ena mikro sistima tis Republic.Otan 2 Jedi pane na diapragmateftoun,apodeiknietai oti einai pagida k prokeitai gia ekstrateia anti gia apokleism i Jei pairnoun ti dikaii vasilissa tou planiti kai drapetevoun,alla ksemenoun se enan erimo planiti.Ekei,san apo moira,tous voithaei ena athoo kai gliko 9xrono paidaki vazontas ti zoi tou se kindino.Ftanontas stin protevousa tou galaxia,vlepoume oti ta pragmata den einai toso eirinika k elefthera,kathos i Republic einai mesa sti diafthora.Akoma k oi Jedi exoun epanapaftei stis dafnes tous.Oi politikoi den mporoun na voithisoun k etsi katafevgoume sti lisi tou Iroa.Maxi gia ton Lao.I maxi ginetai,o Daskalos pethaine mazi me ton Kako,o Mathitis ginetai Daskalos kai to agoraki me tin anektimiti voitheia tou arxizei to monopati tou stin Ipposini.\n-Sto Epeisodio 2 vlepoume enan galaxia efthrafsto kai taragmeno apo tous Aposxistes.Anataraxes pantou k politiki astatheia.I diafthora sto megaleio tis.Oi 2 Jedi exoun k aftoi mia sxesi pou mono teleia den mporei na xaraktiristei.I vasiliassa pou tora einai gerousiastis einai se kindino k to gliko agoraki pou exei ginei polla iposxomenos Jedi tin prostatevei.Omos einai erotevmenos mazi tis,kati epikindino gia enan Jedi.O allos iroas,pou anisixei gia ton filo tou,apla trexei na anakalipsei ton enoxo kai peftei se ena tromero mistiko galaxias einai etoimos gia polemo,kathos anakaliptei enan stato gia tous kalous,kati adianoito mexri tote.Para tis prospatheies olon,enas proin Jedi pou egine tora Sith fernei ton polemo kai o galaxias pleon kaigetai.En to metaksi o nearos Jedi parakouei tous kanones tou Tagmatos kai pantrevetai.Tora i grammi metaksi kalon-kakon einai tromera lepti.\n-Epeisodio 3.Polemos gia 3 xronia.Thanatoi.Oi Jedi den einai aftoi pou itan k den einai osoi itan.Oi 2 filoi einai pleon iroes kai o nearos exei ginei tora antras kai enai sxedon patnodinamos.Skotonei ton Sith kai ta katorthomata tou einai ksakousta.O polemos sxedon teleionei.Ti mporei na paei strava?Oi Jedi ton xrisimopoioun,to idio k o Kagkelarios,filos mazi tou k pateras gia 13 xronia.Mono pou tora kindinevei i ginaika tou k oi Jedi den mporoun na ton voithisoun,mono oi Sith-o Kagkelarios.O Ippotis kai Iroas kanei tin epilogi tou:ton Sith,o opoios fainetai tosa xronia na einai pio efthis mazi tou apo oti oi Jedi.Peftei.To apotelesma?O polemos teleionei mazi me tous Jedi,pou eksolothrevontai kai mazi me tin Republic pou egine Empire.Pethainei k i egkios ginaika tou.O Daskalos trexei stin eksoria mazi me to 1 paidi tou pesmenou Iroa kai o Arxigos tis Epanastasis pairnei to allo paidi tou.Stin eksoria kai o enapomeinas megalos Daskalos ton Jedi,o Yoda.Ekei perimenoun 18 xronia mexri na erthei mia nea elpida.En to metaksi,o Galaxias stenazei ipo tin Aftokratoria k tous Sith.\n(Omologo,ligo megalitero apo ta dika sou,alla poio sou akougetai pio orimo k olokliromeno?Emena sigoura i PT.An itan alles oi prosdokies ton fans gia to geniko senario,tote....eftixos den tis girisan ekeinoi!).\nTora,pame gia ksepsirisma tis OT:\n1)Mpa,o Vader den mporei na niosei tin kori tou?Popo,siga ton Chosen One!\n2)O Vader iparxigos tou Tarkin?Apistefto!\n3)Kala,o Luke xanei tous thetous goneis tou kai ton Daskalo tou se 1 vdomada mesa kai otan dialaei 2 TIE Fighters fonazei Yoohoo?Ti kolopaido thee mou!\n4)Kala,perasame 1 olokliro misaoro na mas deixnei pos einai o Tatooine kai ti poulane ta Javas ktl.An thelo tourismo pao k Konstantinoupoli!\n5)Ksafnika o Luke mesa se 3 evdomades einai ikanos na stathei enantion tou Vader k malista enantion tis Dark Side(stin arxi tou ergou den mporouse kala kala na kanei Force Pull to lightsaber sti spilia tou Wampa ipotithetai meta apo 3 xronia ekpaidefsis,esto k monos tou k meta ton vlepoume na kanei apo ola)?Gamatos aftos o Yoda,\nKai pame tora.Giati einai tragodia to PT?Eipes prin "pou einai i tragodia?Stin Senate pou milane?Stous Jedi pou kathontai?".K go leo: Sovara milas tora(oxi epithetiko ifos)?Dld mono afto sou emeine?Exeis ena gliko 9xrono miksiariko kai mamakia pou to vlepeis k les "fae ti Velutella sou moro mou".To mikro fevgei apo tin mana tou se evaisthiti ilikia kai gia 10 xronia den exei dei kanena agapimeno tou prosopo(vgazo Kenobi) ektos apo ton Palpatine pou einai k to ipo lathos prosopo gia na dei o Anakin!Skeftetai epi 10 xronia mana k Padme(poios kserei ti kanei ta vradia stous koitones ) kai otan erxetai o kairos i mia pethainei,se efthrafsti ilikia=teenager k tin alli tin erotevetai!Jedi+erotas=Gamise Ta!Sfazei ena xorio,etoimazetai na paratisei enan polemo k telika tin pantrevetai kiolas!Ksafnika,to polla iposxomeno Chosen One agori pou egine teenager ginetai epikindinos.Alla ok,exoume polemo,epi 3 xronia einai iroas k telika vlepoume oti xari ston nearo Jedi ola erxontai sta isa tous.Hmmm,o Iroas mallon tha gienei Iroas after all!Gioupiii!!!Alla o Diavolos einai akoma ekei k ton vazei se peirasmo...K o Iroas meta apo tosa asxima pou tou exei dosei i Moira(apoxorismos apo mana,thanatos manas,erotas apagorevmenos k telos apeili apo oneira oti tha xasei KAI tin Padme) leei A Gamisou epeidi einai ANTHROPOS k exei adinamies k kanei ti lathos epilogi.O Iroas peftei k ginetai ekptotos Aggelos sto plevro tou Diavolou k malista voitha stin Sfagi ton allon Aggelon!telika xanei ton filo/aderfo/patera tou Kanobi,xanei tin agapi tou Padme apo diko tou sfalma k epilogi ola k xanei k to idio tou to soma k ti zoi k to Potential pou eixe na ginei o megaliteros Jedi.Alitheia parevlepses afta ola k emeines stous logous ton politikon k stous araxtous Jedi?Ola afta itan organa senariaka gia na ftasoume ekei pou ftasame.Pou?Se 5 meres tha doume oloi!Afta peri tragodias.Diafoneis kapou?K o Luke an skotone ton Vader tragodia tha eixame,alla meiname sto Epos epeidi epelekse sosta(kala an skotone Vader tha eixame kai Ep7-9 gvrm,gamo ton Lucas pou den to ekane!!!).\ngianakin, an synexisoume etsi, the circle will never be complete! Tha leme synexeia ?apopsi sou? kai ?opws to blepei o kathenas? kai den tha teleiwsoume pote. To ?kako? einai oti symfwnw me polles apopseis sou, den allazw tis dikes mou, xese mesa!\nAlla as kanoume koubenta. (Egrapses kai polla?Tha egrafa kai egw alla den exw internet spiti kai kathe lepto sto internet cafÃ©?metraei!)\nGrrr,i aparaititi sigkrisi me to LotR.Afou allo to ena k allo to allo,parolo pou einai k ta 2 fantasy.Opos k na exei,ta LotR ta theoro metria metafora k poli kali prospatheia tou Jackson,alla metria.K ekeinos tha mporouse na exei kanei tis tainies kaliteres(an exeis diavasei ta vivlia tha katalaveis),o tipos eixe sxedon etoimo senario,mono afaireseis itan na kanei oxi allages!Oso gia ton Lawrence,emena den mou sikose tin trixa.Isos na einai logo tis epoxis pou zo,alla einai epos mono apo orismo k oxi apo xaraktirismo.Se kavlonei toso oso to SW(gia na to po oma)?Afto ennoo otan rotao epos\nOtan prwtoeida ton Lawrence, gia merikous mines to thewrousa san tin kalyteri tainia olw twn epoxwn. Einai epos, me tin texnikoteri ennoia tou orou, giati ki edw exoume tin istoria enos anthrwpou pou ftanei se epipedo irwa, sxedon theopoiitai kai ystera erxetai i ptwsi. Kai nai, eixa kavlosei agria. Oxi san to Star Wars omws. Kai gia tin sygkrisi me to Lord of the Rings, exeis dikio, den prepei na ginontai sygkriseis (ektos isws apo ton tropo gyrismatwn & tin paragwgi, pote sto senario & to concept). Thymamai, eixa dei to Fellowship of the Ring kai fysika eixa pathei tin plaka mou, xwris parapono (kai exw diabasei ta biblia ametrites fores, polla xronia prin bgei i Trilogia, kai kamposes meta?). Otan eida to Attack of the Clones, bgika kai eipa ston kollito mou: ?Gamato to Lord of the Rings, alla I kardia mou anikei sto Star Wars?. Ama blepw lightsaber tholwnei to mati mou, pws na to kanoume?!\nNai,simfono alla na prosthso k tin eironeia mou:Arxaia tragodia sto diastima me Ewoks. Afto pou paratirisa einai oti exeis perigrapsei genikologa ta Ep 4,5,6 gia to geniko senario tous pou fisika gamei k dernei,alla ta kainouria ta ksepsirizeis skini skini.Postare to geniko senario ton Prequel kai ksepsirise tin OT k tha deis tin glika.\nEntelws tyxaia eida to Return of the Jedi simera. Exeis dikaio gia ta Ewoks, me tin diafora oti den einai toso enoxlitika san ton Jar-Jar (alla na parei, ki ayto pali proswpiki apopsi einai ). Den milane & den einai ?xwmena? se kathe skini (opws o Jar-Jar sto TPM). Kapou diabasa oti o Lucas skopeve anti gia Ewoks na exei Wookies, pragma pou polloi tha protimousane. Eytyxws pou den emfanizontai pouthena kata tin diarkeia tou Duel . To opoio to eida pali kai mou sikwthike i trixa. As einai to music theme kai sto Duel tou ROTS, tha sikwthw kai tha xtypaw palamakia sto cinema!\nOso gia to ?genikologo?, sou eipa pio panw, den exw pote arketo xrono na grapsw osa skeftomai, kapou metaksy downloading, surfing & me to xronometro na grafei?Anagkastika grafw grigora kai genikeyw\nAs ypirxan ta politika meri alla as itane pisteyta kai aplousteymena. Den to briksw logiko, na epithethei kapoios ston Naboo, o opoios den exei ousiastika kanena simantiko rolo ston Galaxia, san ton Corsucant i ton Kamino\n^ Efcharistw gia to ouraiou goubliman gia tin ypografi, kai ehcharistw ton Gianakin kai ton Andwni Kafetzopoulo gia tin embnefsi.\nKai, prin o Gianakin mas prixei ta matia me tin apandisi sou, na bw ki egw na pw tin gnwmi mou...\n1.) Ta Prequel GAMANE.\n2.) O Palpy "mageireve" tin katastasi stin Gerousia POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYN kairo prin to incident ston Naboo.\n3.) Stis tainies vlepoume APOSPASMATA apo tin genikoteri katastasi, mia souma. Tis leptomereies tis vlepoume sto E.U.. Eimai sigouros oti i archi tou R.o.t.S. tha se peisei ws mia souma tis filias tou Obi kai tou Ani tin opoia echoume dei extensively sto E.U..\nA re pousti,poli se xairomai pou kanoume epoikodomitiki kouventa! .K pame ksana!\n---gianakin, an synexisoume etsi, the circle will never be complete! wink Tha leme synexeia â€œapopsi souâ€ kai â€œopws to blepei o kathenasâ€ kai den tha teleiwsoume pote. To â€œkakoâ€ einai oti symfwnw me polles apopseis sou, den allazw tis dikes mou, xese mesa! tongue\nDe gamietai,kouventa na ginetai!Alitheia,Athina i Salonika eisai?An eisai Athina,kane kana kalo k ela Paraskevi mazi mas!!!\n---Entelws tyxaia eida to Return of the Jedi simera. Exeis dikaio gia ta Ewoks, me tin diafora oti den einai toso enoxlitika san ton Jar-Jar (alla na parei, ki ayto pali proswpiki apopsi einai frustrated ). Den milane & den einai â€œxwmenaâ€ se kathe skini (opws o Jar-Jar sto TPM). Kapou diabasa oti o Lucas skopeve anti gia Ewoks na exei Wookies, pragma pou polloi tha protimousane. Eytyxws pou den emfanizontai pouthena kata tin diarkeia tou Duel tongue . To opoio to eida pali kai mou sikwthike i trixa. As einai to music theme kai sto Duel tou ROTS, tha sikwthw kai tha xtypaw palamakia sto cinema!\nTo music theme tha einai,xexe!Episis,einai se kathe skini,alla leei olo mlkies,pou os xavaletzis ek fiseos tis sigxoro.Ta Ewoks nikoun tin eklekti legeona tou aftokratora me pipes.Sorry,den mou to pairneis aft i Gungans san laos mou aresoun,sixainomai ton JarJar(an eixan ton stratigo Tarpals anti gia JarJar i tainia tha itan skales anoteri,alla ti nai peis...),alla pio poli sixainomai ta Ewoks.Sorry\n---Oso gia to â€œgenikologoâ€, sou eipa pio panw, den exw pote arketo xrono na grapsw osa skeftomai, kapou metaksy downloading, surfing & me to xronometro na grafeiâ€¦Anagkastika grafw grigora kai genikeyw sad\nNo problem,opote efkaireis!\n---As ypirxan ta politika meri alla as itane pisteyta kai aplousteymena. Den to briksw logiko, na epithethei kapoios ston Naboo, o opoios den exei ousiastika kanena simantiko rolo ston Galaxia, san ton Corsucant i ton Kamino gia paradeigma. Ase pou sti thesi tou Naboo tha mporouse na einai o Alderaan, na ginetai pio eykoli I metabasi sto A New Hope. Foberi Republic: H Padme psifizei enantion tou Valoruum, to plithos ksesikwnetai kai kateytheian pame gia allagi igesias. Me tetoio rythmo, tha allazane Chancellor kathe bdomada, opoios eixe parapono tha petage ena â€œvote of no confidenceâ€.\nPio aploustevmena tha itan mi peistika.Akrivos to oti i Republic de voithaei deixnei tin parakmi k grafeiokratia.Opos i Ellada einai mikri k gia ton poutso,exei stratigiki thesi,etsi mporei na einai k o Naboo.Pou ksereis ti simasia exei gia to Universe?Na mas to elege o GL tha mou peis.Tha apantiso parakato se aft so gia ton Alderaan...nai,tha mporouse alla den egine.Prosopika,siga tin apoleia,xestika.Eixe alla pragmata na pei o Theios.Kai gia ton Chancellor...profanos eixe erthei o kairos na allaksei,to EU to leei kathara sto Cloak of Deception,eno o Palps itan kala diktiomenos k den eixe kindino apo Vote of no Confidence.\n---Oi parikmasmenoi Jedi den me peirazoun san idea, tin briskw swsti malista. Alla I ylopoiisi tis me briskei antitheto: Einai to Council kai fainetai san na adiaforei, akoma kai o Yoda. O Qui-Gon tous leei gia ton Darth Maul kai aytwnwn den idrwnei to aytaki tous. Emfanizetai enas clone army, ftiagmenos apo enan bounty hunter pou pige na skotwsei tin Amidala, o Obi-Wan mathainei apo ton idio oti ton proselabe enas typos onomati Tyrranus, kai san na min symbainei tipota, tin katallili stigmi tous dexontai kai tous rixnoun stin maxi, xwris na to psaxnoun to thema parapera. Sto novel leei oti o Obi-Wan eniwse aidia blepontas tous klonous, kati san â€œbiasmosâ€ tis Zwntanis Dynamis. Meta bebaia leei oti einai poly apotelesmatikoi kai tous xrisimopoioun san analwsima ergalia sta Clone Wars. Den einai symponetikoi, einai aprwsopoi, â€œksexnaneâ€ na xrisimpoiisoun tin Dynami, den mou aresoun katholou stis tainies ws twra (ektos tou Obi-Wan). Sto Clone Wars cartoon kai sta comics omws DEN PAIZONTAI! Ekei malista, mamoun\nA re pousti,poli se xairomai pou kanoume epoikodomitiki kouventa!\nPoion eipes oti kanei epoikodomitiki koubenta re!?\nAlitheia,Athina i Salonika eisai?An eisai Athina,kane kana kalo k ela Paraskevi mazi mas!!!\nOpws egrapsa kai se allo thread, eimai stin Thessaloniki, dystyxws alliws tha goustara para poly na erthw. Pali kala pou o "prosylitismos" epiase topo kai ola ta agoria tou tmimatos Agglikis Filologias tou Aristoteleiou (diladi 5 ton arithmo!!!) einai pleon "kammenoi" me to Star Wars!\nTo music theme tha einai,xexe!Episis,einai se kathe skini,alla leei olo mlkies,pou os xavaletzis ek fiseos tis sigxoro.Ta Ewoks nikoun tin eklekti legeona tou aftokratora me pipes.\nKatse, katse ena lepto. Ennoeis to chorodiako pou paizei akribws otan o Luke ta "pairnei" kai ormaei ston Vader? Sto Return of the Jedi panta? Se ksanarwtaw, giati prepei na sigoureytw. Gia to "Duel of the Fates" to kserw oti tha paizei kapoia stigmi alla an einai to kommati apo to ROTJ se kammia kali stigmi, e, tha sygxwrisw ton Lucas gia ta panta! To ennow. Oso gia ta Ewoks pou nikane tous Stormtroopers, pou, opws tonizeis, o Palpatine leei kiolas pio prin ston Luke oti "I have send a legion of my best troops?", e, nai, MEGALH kotsana, oti kai kala "i dynami tis fysis thriamvevei enantia stin texnologia". Pou na min itane kai oi "best", monos tou tha tous katharize o Wicket! Enw sta Prequels & sta Clone Wars, oi Clone Troopers?synousiazoun & ksilokopoun!\nAkrivos to oti i Republic de voithaei deixnei tin parakmi k grafeiokratia.Opos i Ellada einai mikri k gia ton poutso,exei stratigiki thesi,etsi mporei na einai k o Naboo.Pou ksereis ti simasia exei gia to Universe?Na mas to elege o GL tha mou peis.\nAn gia ton Galaxia o Naboo eixe kati simantiko, as poume tin technologia twn energy fields, pou exoun oi Gungans (TIPOTA den tis diapernaei) kai pou einai kai sto meros opou ginetai to duel Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon VS Maul, i ta ergastiria klonopoiisis tou Kamino, tote malista, tha ypirxe kapoia simasia. Mexri kai o Tattoine, pou ypotithetai den einai simantikos, an to kaloskefteis einai anamesa ston Naboo kai ston Coruscant, diladi panw se emporiko astrodiadromo (pws tin xeirizomai tin SW orologia o atimos!). Einai aplws enas eirinikos, prasinos planitis?opws AKRIBWS einai o Alderaan! Kai tha deis sto ROTS poso tha moiazoune.\nGia tous Jedi, eipame na tous deiksei se parakmi, alla oxi kai na exoun ksexasei na xrisimopoioun tin Dynami, mazi kai tin koini logiki! Ase pou den niwthoun enan Sith sta 3 bimata! O Jar Jar & oi ypoloipoi Gungans nikane ta droids sto Episode I, alla 200 Jedi sto Episode II den mporoune na ta bgaloune pera mazi tous se mia arena ston Geonosis. Pou na min antimetwpizane droids alla Sith: Tha ginotane to megalytero makeleio stin istoria twn Jedi, se mono 12 parsecs! . Den kanoune Force push, run, pull, tipota. Kai na fantasteis, exeis Anakin, Windu & Obi-Wan anamesa tous, gia na min balw Ki-Adi Mundi, Plo Kloon & tous ypoloipous tou Council, oi dynatoteroi kai kala Jedi?\nAs tous ekane kati sto pio ippotiko, oxi toso kathistous. As itane skorpioi stous planites, san rangers (pali o Aragorn mou erxetai sto myalo), na emfanizontai mono stin megali anagki. Ypothitai oti 20 xronia meta, sto A New Hope, I leksi Jedi akougetai san mythos, kaneis den einai sigouros gia tin Dynami, o Han koroideyei, o Tarkin kati fainetai na kserei, o ypoloipos galaxias den exei idea. Ara idi kata tin diarkeia twn prequels, oi Jedi the eprepe na einai ekei alla oxi na apoteloun tin "astynomia" tou Coruscant, alla na einai kata kapoio tropo makria apo ta koina, me tin diafora oti o aplos laos tha itan kahypoptos gi?aytous. Opws itan me ton Gandalf merikoi sto LOTR (kserw, mallon stin spaw, alla paradeigma fernw): Oloi ton ektimoun alla opou paei fernei kaka nea (sta biblia kiolas to leei 2-3 fores). Etsi kai oi Jedi: Mia emfanisi tous simainei problima, fantasou otan emfanizontai\nObi-Kris_Kenobi, May 17, 2005\n---Katse, katse ena lepto. Ennoeis to chorodiako pou paizei akribws otan o Luke ta "pairnei" kai ormaei ston Vader? Sto Return of the Jedi panta? Se ksanarwtaw, giati prepei na sigoureytw. Gia to "Duel of the Fates" to kserw oti tha paizei kapoia stigmi alla an einai to kommati apo to ROTJ se kammia kali stigmi, e, tha sygxwrisw ton Lucas gia ta panta! To ennow.\nYes,afto ennoo!Tha einai stin tainia,alla na einai k stin maxi Yoda/Palps,alla tha einai.Nai,afto pou les!!!Sigxoresame i akoma?\n---An gia ton Galaxia o Naboo eixe kati simantiko, as poume tin technologia twn energy fields, pou exoun oi Gungans (TIPOTA den tis diapernaei) kai pou einai kai sto meros opou ginetai to duel Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon VS Maul, i ta ergastiria klonopoiisis tou Kamino, tote malista, tha ypirxe kapoia simasia. Mexri kai o Tattoine, pou ypotithetai den einai simantikos, an to kaloskefteis einai anamesa ston Naboo kai ston Coruscant, diladi panw se emporiko astrodiadromo (pws tin xeirizomai tin SW orologia o atimos!). Einai aplws enas eirinikos, prasinos planitisâ€¦opws AKRIBWS einai o Alderaan! Kai tha deis sto ROTS poso tha moiazoune.\nKati tha exei o Naboo.Sti xeiroteri,des to sa Will of the Force na ginei ekei to Blockade.K sou ksanaleo,den me noiazei gia ton Alderaan,pio poli me noiazei o Bail Organa para o planitis tou(ksero poso moiazoune).\n---Gia tous Jedi, eipame na tous deiksei se parakmi, alla oxi kai na exoun ksexasei na xrisimopoioun tin Dynami, mazi kai tin koini logiki! Ase pou den niwthoun enan Sith sta 3 bimata! O Jar Jar & oi ypoloipoi Gungans nikane ta droids sto Episode I, alla 200 Jedi sto Episode II den mporoune na ta bgaloune pera mazi tous se mia arena ston Geonosis. Pou na min antimetwpizane droids alla Sith: Tha ginotane to megalytero makeleio stin istoria twn Jedi, se mono 12 parsecs! wink . Den kanoune Force push, run, pull, tipota. Kai na fantasteis, exeis Anakin, Windu & Obi-Wan anamesa tous, gia na min balw Ki-Adi Mundi, Plo Kloon & tous ypoloipous tou Council, oi dynatoteroi kai kala Jediâ€¦\nWell,milame gia ton Palps,oxi gia enan Sith,ara gia mena de stekei afto pou les.Xrisimopoioun ti Dinami,alla mono gia maxes pleon(=parakmi).O Palps den exeis antilifthei akoma poso panisxiros einai?Osso gia tous Gungans,den thimamai na kerdisane kammia maxi.O Anakin ekane to kolpo k tous glitose.Gia tis alles dinameis,ego stin Arena sto Ep2 eida kali k sixni xrisi Push,Pull ktl.K oxi,den tha dexomoun oi Jedi na dialane stratous oloklirous,den mou paei.Tote den tha pisteva oti de tha eniothan enan Sith dipla tous.\n---As tous ekane kati sto pio ippotiko, oxi toso kathistous. As itane skorpioi stous planites, san rangers (pali o Aragorn mou erxetai sto myalo), na emfanizontai mono stin megali anagki. Ypothitai oti 20 xronia meta, sto A New Hope, I leksi Jedi akougetai san mythos, kaneis den einai sigouros gia tin Dynami, o Han koroideyei, o Tarkin kati fainetai na kserei, o ypoloipos galaxias den exei idea. Ara idi kata tin diarkeia twn prequels, oi Jedi the eprepe na einai ekei alla oxi na apoteloun tin "astynomia" tou Coruscant, alla na einai kata kapoio tropo makria apo ta koina, me tin diafora oti o aplos laos tha itan kahypoptos giâ€™aytous. Opws itan me ton Gandalf merikoi sto LOTR (kserw, mallon stin spaw, alla paradeigma fernw): Oloi ton ektimoun alla opou paei fernei kaka nea (sta biblia kiolas to leei 2-3 fores). Etsi kai oi Jedi: Mia emfanisi tous simainei problima, fantasou otan emfanizontai xiliades apo daytous â€“ pame gia polemo!\nEm,para poli kali i protasi sou k kapote itan etsi oi Jedi k tora me ton Luke etsi ksanaeinai,alla exoume ena provlima edo.An itan etsi,den tha itan parikmasmenoi.Isos na iparxei mia tripoula me to oti kaneis den tous kserei eno prin apo 18 xronia itan pasignostoi,alla afto kaliptetai efkola me to oti o Plps ekane ta panta gia na ksexastoun.\n---O Yoda episis, kata tin gnomi mou, den xreiazotane na einai sta Prequels, as itan o uber â€“ Jedi pou kathetai ston Dagobah kai ekpaideyei mono super talantouxous Jedi, san ton Obi-Wan kai ligo ton A\ngianakin, May 17, 2005\nE, loipon ayti I katastasi den paei allo! Stamataw na grafw otidipote, mexri na grapsei kai kapoios allos?\nPlaka kanw, ennoeitai omws oti tha ithela na eblepa & alles gnwmes.\nWell,milame gia ton Palps,oxi gia enan Sith,ara gia mena de stekei afto pou les.Xrisimopoioun ti Dinami,alla mono gia maxes pleon(=parakmi).O Palps den exeis antilifthei akoma poso panisxiros einai?Oso gia tous Gungans,den thimamai na kerdisane kammia maxi.O Anakin ekane to kolpo k tous glitose.Gia tis alles dinameis,ego stin Arena sto Ep2 eida kali k sixni xrisi Push,Pull ktl.K oxi,den tha dexomoun oi Jedi na dialane stratous oloklirous,den mou paei.Tote den tha pisteva oti de tha eniothan enan Sith dipla tous.\nWraia. Oi 12 pio dynatoi Jedi tou Sympantos, apenanti stin idia tin Dark Side prosopopoiimeni, kai den niwthoun tipota. Me basi ta osa exei deiksei o Lucas mexri twra, den yparxei tipota pou na to eksigei. Apla egw kai esy pou eimaste fans, fantazomaste pws tha exei kapoia foberi texniki gia na krybei tin "ayra" tou apo tous Jedi. Oi opoioi, me to paramikro niwthoun "a tremor in the Force". Telika ti einai ikanoi na niwsoun? Pantws paradexomai oti goustara apeira sto Phantom Menace pou ap'olous tous xaraktires, mono o Obi-Wan eniwse pws kati den paei kala. "I sense something?Elsewhere?Elusive?"\nOso gia to "kolpo" tou Anakin sto TPM, mporei na thewroume oti oti to ekane aytos i ton odigise I Dynami (?) alla opws to deixnei i tainia, o Anakin ta kanei ola tyxaia, afou einai synexeia "oops!" kai "oops!". As edeixne na sygkentrwnetai kapws, na kanei xrisi tis Dynamis, giati twra ayto mporei na ginetai, alla DEN fainetai.\nK se parakalo,mi milas ston GL ston eniko giati mou thimizeis tous bashers para poli.Gnomi mou.K ksereis ti eipe to atomo pou tou milas ston eniko?"Oi fans einai 2 eidon tora.Oi ano ton 25 k oi kato ton 25.Oi ano einai aftoi pou goustaroun tin OT k vrizoun tin PT kirios.Distixos aftoi elegxoun ta mesa,metra i gnomi tous pio poli k se mia sizitisi sto Net aftoi tha akoustoun pio poli.Thelo se 10 xronia na do pos tha gieni,otan k oi alloi fans,pou goustaroun pio poli PT tha einai,pou tha exei i gnomi tous varos."O tipos kserei ti kanei.Tha deis se 10 xronia,oti i meiopsifia einai afti pou einai bashers i tous peirazoun oi leptomereies,akrivos giati eidan tin PT prota.\nOK, den tha ton apokalesw me to mikro tou, estw kai an zoume se mia xwra opou apokaloume tous igetes mas (o Theos na tous kanei!) "Kwstaki" kai "Giorgaki"? Oso gia to an sou thymizw tous bashers, logiko, olo ekei syxnazw. Mazoxismos? Sxetika me tis ilikies kai to internet, elpizw se 10 xronia na exeis dikio kai na ta thymomaste oloi ayta, bashers & gushers kai na gelame me tis mlkies pou grafame.\nRe si,den tha to pistepseis!Epeidi thelo na gino skinothetis,exo idi kanei 2 tainies k pao gia 3i k 4i,ithela panta na kano mia Trilogia 1821 k alli mia Vizantio!Sou dino to respect mou!!!\nNa'sai kala. Exw kanei kai egw mia tainia alla poly erasitexniki. Fysika arxizei me to sima tis 20th Century Fox kai oi titloi telous einai galazia gramata me mousiki John Williams.\nGia to "Eighteen Twenty-One" (me baria amerikaniki profora), exw kanei polla sxedia. Fysika the proslambana tin ILM na mou "anastisei" psifiaka ton Sir Alec Guiness gia na ypodithei ton Makrygianni. Kai ton Sean Connery gja Kolokwtroni?Ase sou lew, exw kanei cast gero. To budget bgainei kapou sta 500-600 ekkatomyriakia $ kai oi 3 tainies. Fysika ksereis pws ksekinaei: Deixnei tin teleytai megali maxi, opws stin arxi apo to Fellowship of the Ring, tin alwsi tis Kwnstantinoupolis diladi! Epos sou lew, epos!\n---A, kai eipame, tha ourliaksw (an den lipothymisw) ama akousw to "Final Duel" Theme sto Duel tou Obi-Wan VS Anakin. Kai meta dinw afesi amartiwn ston Lucas.\nDose apo tora.\nKatse na ngalw mia kraygi prwta: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Kai meta sygxwremenos, sto onoma tou Yoda, tou Anakin & tis Dynamis.\n---E, loipon ayti I katastasi den paei allo! Stamataw na grafw otidipote, mexri na grapsei kai kapoios allosâ€¦\n---Wraia. Oi 12 pio dynatoi Jedi tou Sympantos, apenanti stin idia tin Dark Side prosopopoiimeni, kai den niwthoun tipota. Me basi ta osa exei deiksei o Lucas mexri twra, den yparxei tipota pou na to eksigei. Apla egw kai esy pou eimaste fans, fantazomaste pws tha exei kapoia foberi texniki gia na krybei tin "ayra" tou apo tous Jedi. Oi opoioi, me to paramikro niwthoun "a tremor in the Force". Telika ti einai ikanoi na niwsounâ€¦ Pantws paradexomai oti goustara apeira sto Phantom Menace pou ap'olous tous xaraktires, mono o Obi-Wan eniwse pws kati den paei kala. "I sense somethingâ€¦Elsewhereâ€¦Elusiveâ€¦"\nVasika o GL exei dilosei oti i kathe plevra den niothei ta deeds tis allis.Ara oi Jedi de niothoun ta apolito kako k o Palps sto Ep5 den niothei ton Luke na ekpaidevetai.Leei oti einai dinatos,me vasi to Death Star oiu dielise.Ara,there you go...Ksero,tha ithels na to deis stin tainia...oh,well!\n---Oso gia to "kolpo" tou Anakin sto TPM, mporei na thewroume oti oti to ekane aytos i ton odigise I Dynami (?) alla opws to deixnei i tainia, o Anakin ta kanei ola tyxaia, afou einai synexeia "oops!" kai "oops!". As edeixne na sygkentrwnetai kapws, na kanei xrisi tis Dynamis, giati twra ayto mporei na ginetai, alla DEN fainetai.\nNai,to sizitaga simera me ton Starkeiller afto,e,ligo Amerikania pou psilodikaiologeitai apo ti Force.Alla amerikania nevertheless.\n---OK, den tha ton apokalesw me to mikro tou, estw kai an zoume se mia xwra opou apokaloume tous igetes mas (o Theos na tous kanei!) "Kwstaki" kai "Giorgaki"â€¦ rolling_eyes Oso gia to an sou thymizw tous bashers, logiko, olo ekei syxnazw. Mazoxismosâ€¦ Sxetika me tis ilikies kai to internet, elpizw se 10 xronia na exeis dikio kai na ta thymomaste oloi ayta, bashers & gushers kai na gelame me tis mlkies pou grafame.\nApo to stoma sou file mou...apo to stoma sou!K simfono gia tous igetes k gia tin xora.Asta na pane...\n---Gia to "Eighteen Twenty-One" (me baria amerikaniki profora), exw kanei polla sxedia. Fysika the proslambana tin ILM na mou "anastisei" psifiaka ton Sir Alec Guiness gia na ypodithei ton Makrygianni. Kai ton Sean Connery gja Kolokwtroniâ€¦Ase sou lew, exw kanei cast gero. To budget bgainei kapou sta 500-600 ekkatomyriakia $ kai oi 3 tainies. Fysika ksereis pws ksekinaei: Deixnei tin teleytai megali maxi, opws stin arxi apo to Fellowship of the Ring, tin alwsi tis Kwnstantinoupolis diladi! Epos sou lew, epos!\nA,esi eisai akrivos re!Ego tha evaza ton PApakaliati na tis gamaei oles!Plaka kano fisika.Ante na doume mpa k ginei tpt...\n---Katse na ngalw mia kraygi prwta: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Kai meta sygxwremenos, sto onoma tou Yoda, tou Anakin & tis Dynamis.\nEeeetsi paianes mou!\nSygnwmi an fainetai oti ontws antifaskw, apla eksigisa tous logous pou den prolabainw na dwsw epixeirimata Me to "ksemwramenos" den ennoousa na to paw toso makria, na pw diladi oti to exei "xameno" kai kala. To ennow me tin apopsi pws exei ftasei 60+ xronwn, einai stin idia ilikia me ton pappou mou kai fysiko einai aytos ne gelaei i na enthousiazetai me diaforetika pragmata ap'oti egw, gia paradeigma. Aytos isws fantazetai oti o kosmos tha latrepsei ton Jar Jar, gelaei kai mono pou grafei tis atakes tou alla den ginetai na aresei se olous (mono stin kopela mou tongue ). Eixe kataferei omws na ftiaksei agapitous iroes omws, stin palia trilogia. Den katalabaineis leksi apo ayta pou leei o Chewie alla ton goustaroume. O Jar Jar den prosferei tipota sto EpI, ap'oti tha prosefere enas opoiosdipote tyxaios xaraktiras. As itane o Tarpals opws to eipes kai esy, na kanei tin symmaxia Gungans & Naboo. Sto EpII, as epairne tis dynameis tou o Palpy me allon tropo. H thes na pistepsw oti o Lucas eixe skeftei prin apo 10 xronia as poume pws enas Gungan, pou fainetai san diastayrwsi elefanta & papias, tha dwsei emergency powers ston Palpatineâ€¦\nKala ego ton Chewie den ton p\nAn mhn ti allo einai mia endiaferousa sizhtysh...\nSithLOrd_REvan, May 17, 2005


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url: =Macedonian Press Agency: Brief News in Greek (AM), 98-07-06\nQessalonikh, 06/07/1998 (MPE)\nMetra apozhmiwsewn opws kai stis periptwseis plhmmyrwn kai seismwn qa isxysoyn gia toys polites twn opoiwn ta spitia h oi kalliergeies ypesthsan zhmies apo tis katastrofikes pyrkagies toy dihmeroy. Ayto anakoinwqhke meta th xqesinh synedriash toy kentrikoy syntonistikoy diypoyrgikoy organoy gia tis pyrkagies, sto opoio ejetasthke h katastash poy exei diamorfwqei. Parallhla, qa ginei katagrafh twn dasikwn ektasewn poy katastrafhkan wste na khryxqoyn anadaswtees.\nSto metajy, ypo elegxo exoyn teqei ta perissotera metwpa twn pyrkagiwn apo tis dynameis ths dasopyrosbeshs, ystera kai apo thn ejasqenhsh twn isxyrwn anemwn.\nEfqase xqes sth Nea Yorkh proerxomenos apo to Sant Lois toy Misoyri, o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas Akhs Tsoxatzopoylos, poy pragmatopoiei epishmh episkech stis HPA. Shmera, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos qa parakaqisei se progeyma, poy organwnei to Ellhniko Epixeirhmatiko Symboylio.\nAixmes oti polles apo tis pyrkagies poy jespasan se diafores perioxes ths xwras kata th diarkeia twn dyo teleytaiwn hmerwn mporei na ofeilontai se emprhstes poy edrasan basei organwmenoy sxedioy, afhsan oi ypoyrgoi Dhmosias Tajhs kai Dhmosias Dioikhshs, Giwrgos Rwmaios kai Alekos Papadopoylos, meta th syskech sth genikh grammateia Politikhs Prostasias. "Den mporoyme na aneyqynologoyme. Ejetazontai ola ta endexomena. Ereynoyntai apo tis armodies yphresies", eipe xarakthristika o k. Papadopoylos. "Anakyptoyn erwthmatika. Synexizontai oi ereynes gia na exoyme plhrh eikona. Otan exoyme sygkekrimena stoixeia, qa milhsoyme", eipe apo thn pleyra toy o k.Rwmaios. O proedros ths N.D. Kwstas Karamanlhs, se dhlwseis toy apo ton Aylwna kathgorhse thn kybernhsh oti htan laqos h apofash ths na ekxwrhsei thn eyqynh ths dasopyrosbeshs sthn pyrosbestikh. "Oi eyqynes ths kybernhshs einai barytates. Enw eixe arxisei h qerinh antipyrikh periodos na epixeirhqei h metafora ths dasopyrosbeshs apo thn dasikh sthn pyrosbestikh yphresia". Sto idio pneyma htan kai h dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy toy KKE, Spyroy Xalbatzh: O ekproswpos toy KKE ektimhse oti h metafora ths dasopyrosbeshs sthn pyrosbestikh "odhghse sthn apodiarqrwsh ths dasikhs yphresias".\nEnas xronos symplhrwnetai shmera apo to jespasma ths megalhs pyrkagias toy Seix-Soy, poy katestrece to 55% toy dasoys (16.600 stremmata), prokalwntas anypologisth zhmia sto monadiko pneymona prasinoy ths Qessalonikhs. Me aformh th qliberh epeteio, se anakoinwsh toy o nomarxhs Qessalonikhs kai proedros ths epitrophs parakoloyqhshs toy ergoy "apokatastash kai ajiopoihsh toy dasoys-parkoy", Kwstas Papadopoylos, tonizei oti -mesa sto xrono poy perase- ajiopoihqhkan plhrws ta 3 dis. drx. poy dieqese h Politeia gia ta erga. Oloklhrwqhke h A' fash twn antidiabrwtikwn ergwn kai twn ergwn antiplhmmyrikhs prostasias kai fyteythkan ena ekatommyrio platyfylla dendryllia\n"Aisqanomai yperhfanos gia thn politikh thn opoia askhsa me diafaneia kai eyaisqhsia kai den me aggizei opoiadhpote eisaggelikh ereyna", dhlwse o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs Giwrgos Rwmaios se synenteyjh toy sthn efhmerida "H kaqhmerinh". Sxoliazontas thn ereyna twn eisaggelewn sto ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs kai osa eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas tis teleytaies hmeres ypogrammizei:"Oi adeies paramonhs poy exw dwsei se allodapoys den einai paratypes. To dhlwnw kathgorhmatika. To dikaiwma ayto parexetai apo to nomo, to askhsan kai oi prohgoymenoi ypoyrgoi".\nTh diabebaiwsh pws oi xwres toys einai apofasismenes na katabaloyn kaqe prospaqeia gia eirhnikh dieyqethsh ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio epanelaban, kata th synanthsh toys, o Gioygkoslabos proedros, Slompontan Milosebits, kai o Rwsos yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, Nikolai Afanasiefski. O Rwsos ajiwmatoyxos poy metebh sto Beligradi, ejefrase th rwsikh qesh pws h Omospondiakh Dhmokratia ths Gioygkoslabias paramenei pisth stoys oroys ths symfwnias Geltsin-Milosebits, kaqws to Beligradi exei dwsei th sygkataqesh toy gia thn apostolh sto Kossyfopedio diplwmatikhs antiproswpeias ths Omadas Epafhs, ths EE kai toy OASE, thn epanenarjh twn synomiliwn me toys Albanoys ths serbikhs eparxias kaqws kai thn paroxh bohqeias me stoxo thn epistrofh twn prosfygwn.\nThn apofasistikothta toys na syneisferoyn sthn eirhnikh epilysh ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio, yioqetwntas koines protaseis, diakhryjan xqes o apestalmenos twn HPA Ritsarnt Xolmproyk kai o yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Rwsias Nikolai Afanasiefski, apo thn Pristina, thn opoia episkefqhkan se mia prospaqeia na prowqhsoyn thn epanenarjh twn synomiliwn anamesa sto Beligradi kai toys ekproswpoys twn Albanwn. Opws eipe o k. Xolmproyk, to prwto bhma ths "synexoys" paroysias ths dieqnoys koinothtas sthn eparxia qa einai h organwsh "diplwmatikwn apostolwn parathrhtwn, oi opoies qa jekinhsoyn to ergo toys amesa".\nEkryqmh paramenei h katastash sto dytiko Kossyfopedio, opoy synexizontai oi enoples sygkroyseis metajy twn serbikwn dynamewn kai twn Albanwn aytonomistwn.\nThn apokatastash peripoy 40.000 prosfygwn apo thn perioxh Gkali ths Ampxazias, oi opoioi menoyn proswrina se sxoleia kai alla idrymata ths Gewrgias, syzhthse to Symboylio Eqnikhs Asfaleias ths Gewrgias. Oi arxes qa synexisoyn na parexoyn stoys prosfyges ta eidh prwths anagkhs, opws cwmi, nero kai qermansh, enw to symboylio apofasise oti ta paidia kai oi daskaloi toys qa metaferqoyn se kentra anacyxhs ths Gewrgias, opoy qa parameinoyn mexri to telos toy Aygoystoy.\nIsxyroys boreioys anemoys sto Aigaio kai kanonikes gia thn epoxh qermokrasies problepei gia shmera h Eqnikh Metewrologikh Yphresia. Se olh th xwra o kairos arxika qa einai aiqrios alla to apogeyma sta hpeirwtika qa synnefiasei topika. H qermokrasia qa kymanqei sta boreia hpeirwtika apo 16 mexri 31 baqmoys, sto Ionio kai ta ypoloipa hpeirwtika apo 20 mexri 34 kai sto Aigaio apo 23 mexri 30 baqmoys Kelsioy. Sth Qessalonikh problepetai sxedon aiqrios kairos me liges topikes nefwseis to apogeyma. Oi anemoi qa pneoyn boreiodytikoi metrioi 19 30 baqmoys Kelsioy.\nmpegrb2html v2.00 run on Monday, 6 July 1998 - 5:40:16 UTC


url: =Odhgies egkatastasns kai xrnsns twv grammatoseirwv hrnet\nOdhgies egkatastashs kai xrhshs twn grammatoseirwn hrnet\nAn xrhsimopoieite Sun poy trexei OpenWindows kai oxi X windows\nxreiazeste diaforetikes odhgies\nPrwta prepei na breite an h diakritothta ths oqonhs poy xrhsimopoieite (se dpi dhl. shmeia ana intsa) einai pio konta sta 75 h sta 100. Sth synexeia prepei na parete apo to HR-Net to sympiesmeno arxeio eite gia 75 dpi h gia 100 dpi (ena apo ta duo) kai na to balete se ena directory opws p.x. ~/grfonts afou prwta dhmioyrghsete to directory me thn entolh\nSth synexeia qa prepei na aposympiesete to arxeio poy phrate ws ejhs:\nMhn jexasete na allajete to 75 se 100 stis parapanw entoles an exete parei tis grammatoseires gia 100 dpi!\nGia thn egkatastash twn grammatoseirwn sta perissotera systhmata arkei na ektelesete to programma poy symperilambanetai sto paketo:\nAn deite mhnyma laqoys poy anaferei "permission" dwste thn entolh\nkai prospaqhste jana. An den deite kanena mhnyma laqoys shmainei oti h egkatastash twn grammatoseirwn egine me epityxia. Alliws dokimaste na dwsete mia-mia tis entoles poy briskontai sto arxeio install_fonts antikaqistwntas to `pwd` me to plhres onoma toy directory opoy briskontai oi grammatoseires (full path name) gia na deite poy brisketai to problhma. Ean exete problhmata parakaloume na diabasete to Ejakoloyqw na mh mporw na diabasw ellhnika.\nAfou teleiwsete me thn egkatastash twn ellhnikwn mporeite pleon na sbhsete to arxeio tar gia na ejoikonomhsete xwro sto disko sas. Mporeite epishs na balete tis akoloyqes entoles sto arxeio .xinitrc wste oi grammatoseires na fortwnontai aytomata apo to susthma kaqe fora poy jekinate to X-windows:\nMhn jexasete na balete to plhres onoma toy directory opoy briskontai oi grammatoseires ekei poy leei font-path. An den jerete poio einai ayto to onoma mporeite na to breite phgainontas sto directory ayto (p.x. me cd ~/grfonts) kai dinontas thn entolh pwd.\nGia na kanete to programma Netscape na xrhsimopoiei tis ellhnikes grammatoseires:\nMe thn ekdosh 3.0b4 to Netscape yposthrizei, epiteloys, th xrhsh ellhnikwn xarakthrwn xwris th xrhsh texnasmatwn. To mono poy xreiazetai na kanete einai, afou egkatasthsete tis grammatoseires, na jekinhsete to Netscape kai na epilejete For the encoding: Greek (ISO8859-7) apo ton katalogo epilogwn Options/General/Fonts. Apo ekei oriste grtex (hrnet) kai grtt (hrnet) ws thn analogikh (proportional) kai staqerh (fixed) grammatoseira, antistoixa. Mhn jexasete na epilejete to megeqos poy protimate (12 pt einai synhqws to kalutero) kai na pathseteOK. Telos\tepilejte Options/Save Options gia na monimopoihsete tis epiloges sas.\nSth synexeia to mono poy xreiazetai na kanete einai na epilegete Options/Language Encoding/Greek (ISO8859-7) otan briskeste se ellhnikes selides.\nPROSOXH: H ekdosh 3.0b3 toy Netscape den apeikonizei swsta ta ellhnika, promhqeyteite thn ekdosh 3.0b4\nAn xrhsimopoieite thn ekdosh 2.0b, 2.0, h 2.01, xreiazetai mia eidikh proseggish sto qema logw toy systhmatos kwdikopoihshs. Analoga me thn analysh ths oqonhs sas (opws kai gia tis grammatoseires) parte to arxeio fonts.alias-75dpi h to fonts.alias-100dpi. Balte to arxeio ayto sto idio directory poy briskontai oi grammatoseires, metonomaste to fonts.alias kai enhmerwste to leitoyrgiko sas gia thn uparjh toy ws ejhs:\nMeta ap'ayto mporeite na trexete to Netscape me to arxeio GRNetscape2 kai na dialegete ta ellhnika apo to menou Options/Language Encoding opote briskeste se ellhnikh selida. Thn prwth fora poy qa xrhsimopoihsete ayto to programma phgainete sto Options/General/Fonts, dialejte For the encoding: Greek, kai balte to grtex kai to grtt ws analogikh (proportional) kai staqerou platoys (fixed) grammatoseira antistoixa, kai dialejte to megeqos wste na fainetai ikanopoihtika (12 point qa prepei na einai entajei).\nAn xrhsimopoieite thn ekdosh 1.1 h 1.12 toy Netscape parte to arxeio GRNetscape1.1 kai xrhsimopoieiste to gia na jekinhsete to programma. Ayto qa kanei to programma na xrhsimopoihsei tis grammatoseires hrnet gia oles tis selides, alla mporeite opote qelete na xrhsimopoihsete tis synhqismenes grammatoseires jekinwntas to programma apeyqeias kai oxi me to arxeio ayto.\nGia na kanete to Mosaic na xrhsimopoiei tis ellhnikes grammatoseires xreiazeste ena eidiko arxeio analoga me thn analysh ths oqonhs sas. Parte loipon to katallhlo arxeio gia 75 dpi h gia 100 dpi kai metonomaste to GRMosaic.Xresources. Sth synexeia qa mporeite na xrhsimopoieite ta ellhnika me to Mosaic an prin to jekinhsete dinete thn entolh\nkai katopin kaleite to Mosaic me thn entolh\nopote qelete na xrhsimopoihsete tis ellhnikes grammatoseires. Fysika an balete aythn thn entolh sto arxeio .xinitrc tote de qa xreiazete na th dinete kaqe fora poy qelete na xrhsimopoihsete to Mosaic.\nPisw sth selida twn ellhnikwn grammatoseirwn gia X-windows


url: =Athens News Agency: Press Review in Greek, 05-07-14\n EPISKOPHSH TYPOY THS 14/7/2005\n DNT - Forologiko systhma\nTa metra gia thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias poy apofasise to symboylio ypoyrgwn Eswterikwn kai Dikaiosynhs ths EE, o dialogos gia tis ergasiakes sxeseis, oi diapragmateyseis gia th syllogikh symbash twn ergazomenwn sto dhmosio tomea kai oi protaseis toy DNT gia to forologiko systhma ths xwras, einai apo ta basika qemata ths eidhseografias toy shmerinoy aqhnaikoy Typoy.\nADESMEYTOS TYPOS (Mhtshs): "Mpalanter" sta ergasiaka o Meimarakhs. Se rolo gefyropoioy metajy kybernhshs-syndikatwn.\nADESMEYTOS TYPOS (Rizos): Elastiko 8wro stis epixeirhseis. Eligmos sto Ergasiako, ystera apo synanthsh toy prwqypoyrgoy me Alogoskoyfh-Panagiwtopoylo.\nANW KATW: Sabbatokyriako ston Astera Boyliagmenhs: 45 eyrw kai orqios.\nAPOGEYMATINH: Fakelwnoyn klhseis, sms, e-mail. Oi tromokrates kataferan na baloyn se arxeio thn idiwtikh zwh twn Eyrwpaiwn.\nH APOFASH: Ayjhseis se xamhlomisqoys. Ejomoiwsh pros ta epanw.\nH AYGH: O "Megalos Adelfos" panw apo thn Eyrwph. Oi "25" apofasisan genikeymenh parakoloyqhsh twn politwn.\nAYRIANH: Ekqeth h hgesia ths GSEE meta tis allages poy ekane o Panagiwtopoylos sto ergasiako.\nTO BHMA: Oi allages stoys foroys poy proteinei to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio. "To Bhma" dhmosieyei tis ypodeijeis poy qa anakoinwqoyn shmera. Oi syntajeis, o FPA, oi ofeiles kai h diafqora.\nH BRADYNH: Htta ths Eyrwphs ta nea tromometra. Poios qa mas fylajei apo toys "fylakes";\nEQNOS: Zwh-lastixo me to neo wrario. Anatropes stis oikogeneiakes sxeseis kai to eisodhma twn ergazomenwn.\nELEYQERH WRA: Mpoykadoros tsampoykas kai katalhcias o Eirhnaios. Epixeirhqhke anatroph toy yparxontos kaqestwtos sto Patriarxeio Ierosolymwn.\nELEYQEROS: Porismata "fwtia" gia thn Oikonomia apo to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio kai ton OOSA.\nELEYQEROS TYPOS: Sta prasa ta papagalakia Bryjellwn! Diaplokh: Anakoinwqhkan apofaseis poy den eixan lhfqei pote.\nELEYQEROTYPIA: Idoy o neos "Megalos Adelfos". Ola ta metra poy apofasisan me xronodiagramma oi "25".\nESTIA: Neo sok sthn Bretannia. Bretannoi yphkooi oi tesseris bombistes.\nESPRESSO: Anhlikh sta xeria apagwgewn. Zhtoyn lytra apo epixeirhmatia.\nH KAQHMERINH: Anadiorganwsh twn Eforiwn proteinei to DNT. Dialysh yphresiakwn steganwn. Patajh kyklwmatwn diafqoras. Drastikh meiwsh ariqmoy DOY.\nO LOGOS: Dixazei to wrario. Jekina sth Boylh h syzhthsh toy nomosxedioy.\nTA NEA: Forosok gia ola ta akinhta. Proteinoyn ayjhseis ws 207% stis antikeimenikes.\nH NIKH: Aporryqmish ths koinwnias. Antipoliteysh kai syndikata apokalyptoyn to neofileleyqero sxedio.\nRIZOSPASTHS: Symboylio ypoyrgwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs: Eyrw-diktatoria h "dhmokratia" toys.\nTRAFFIC NEWS: Triantafyllopoylos-Kakaoynakhs: Krhtiko glenti gia ta xrysa symbolaia. Nikos kai Makhs giortasan th synergasia toys me tsikoydia sthn Krhth.\nH XWRA: Proslhceis anaplhrwtwn ekpaideytikwn. Apo 18 mexri 28 Ioylioy oi aithseis.\nCity Press: ADEDY: to "isogeio" sta 1.200 eyrw. Plhrhs diastash apocewn ADEDY kai kybernhshs odhgei se anabolh toy dialogoy.\nMETRO: Sygxysh gia tis allages. Apokalyptikh ereyna ths Metron Analysis gia th GSEE.\nAGGELIOFOROS: Nero sto krasi gia to ergasiako. Kybernhtikh anadiplwsh gia to dieyqyntiko dikaiwma.\nEGNATIA: "Qeloyn th gh mas gia eqniko parko". Oi agrotes ths Xalastras antidroyn sto na ginoyn oi perioysies toys ygrotopos.\nTYPOS QESSALONIKHS: Mia geitonia: Qessalonikh-Kwnstantinoypolh-Sofia me th nea sidhrodromikh grammh.\nSymfwna me thn ELEYQEROTYPIA "katagrafh thlefwnikwn syndialejewn kai hlektronikwn mhnymatwn, stadiaka perissoterh parakoloyqhsh, kaqws kai entash elegxwn gia jeplyma xrhmatos apofasisan xqes oi ypoyrgoi Eswterikwn/Dhmosias Tajhs ths EE. Sok stoys Bretanoys, meta th diapistwsh oti oi bombistes gennhqhkan kai megalwsan anamesa toys. Anazhteitai kai pemptos. Ereyna "E": Mas parakoloyqoyn alla... praktika anefarmosth h thrhsh arxeiwn syndialejewn-mhnymatwn".\nH APOGEYMATINH yposthrizei oti "allhleggyoi sthn katadikh ths tromokratias kai apofasismenoi na thn ktyphsoyn sth riza ths emfanisqhkan xqes oi 25 ypoyrgoi Dikaiosynhs, Eswterikwn kai Dhmosias Tajhs ths EE, oi opoioi symmeteixan sto Ektakto Symboylio poy diejhxqh stis Bryjelles mia sxedon ebdomada meta tis bombistikes epiqeseis sto Londino. Ystera apo entones pieseis twn Bretanwn (kaqws kai twn Gallwn, twn Soyhdwn kai twn Irlandwn) apofasisan na apoqhkeyqoyn stoixeia thlefwnikwn syndialejewn, sms kai hlektronikwn mhnymatwn gia diasthma pera twn dyo etwn, arxhs genomenhs apo ton epomeno Oktwbrio".\nO RIZOSPASTHS anaferei oti "to amerikaniko "pararthma" ths tromokratias, o eyrwpaikos imperialismos, apofasise thn 24wrh parakoloyqhsh, epi 365 meres to xrono, olwn twn epikoinwniwn metajy twn Eyrwpaiwn politwn kai oswn diamenoyn sth Ghraia Hpeiro".\nH AYGH grafei oti "sthn epoxh toy Megaloy Adelfoy poy ta "panq' ora" mphke apo xqes h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, ystera apo thn ektakth synodo twn ypoyrgwn Dikaiosynhs kai Eswterikwn, stis Bryjelles, liges hmeres meta to polynekro tromokratiko ktyphma toy Londinoy. Oi "25" apofasisan thn taxytath prowqhsh metrwn poy sxetizontai me thn katarghsh toy aporrhtoy twn epikoinwniwn kai th genikeymenh parakoloyqhsh twn politwn".\nH BRADYNH shmeiwnei oti "to neo paketo antitromokratikwn metrwn poy yioqethsan omofwna oi 25, an kai antanakla ews ena baqmo thn agwnia gia prolhch newn tromokratikwn xtyphmatwn, yperbainei th lepth kokkinh grammh poy afora sta anqrwpina kai dhmokratika dikaiwmata twn politwn, ta opoia apoteloyn to qemelio liqo twn eyrwpaikwn dhmokratikwn koinwniwn".\nH ESTIA prosqetei oti "prepei na lhfqoyn poly pio aysthra metra prolhptikoy xarakthros ws pros ton proshlytismo twn atomwn aytwn, se oloklhrh thn Eyrwph. Kapoioi diamartyrontai, alla allh lyshs den yparxei. Den einai dynaton to akraio moysoylmaniko stoixeio poy exei dieisdysei sthn Eyrwph, na afhnetai anenoxlhto".\nH Espresso ektima oti "thn eyreia dynath synainesh epidiwkei h kybernhsh sto ergasiako kai oi proqeseis ths aytes fanhkan xqes, otan dieceyse ta senaria peri yioqethshs toy dieyqyntikoy dikaiwmatos kai parallhla jekinhse neo kyklo dialogoy, "zymwsewn" kai epafwn gia ta misqologika aithmata twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn".\nO ADESMEYTOS TYPOS (Rizoy) epishmainei oti "enan kaqoristiko eligmo, prin apo thn kataqesh toy sxetikoy nomosxedioy sth Boylh, ekane h kybernhsh sto "ergasiako", jekaqarizontas xqes oti h organwsh toy xronoy ergasias se mia epixeirhsh gia thn efarmogh elastikoy 8wroy, proypoqetei th symfwnh gnwmh twn ergazomenwn".\nH AYRIANH isxyrizetai oti "h kybernhsh ebale nero sto krasi ths, oi ergazomenoi symfwnoyn katanowntas tis dyskolies poy pernaei h Oikonomia toy topoy, alla oi ergatopateres epimenoyn sthn... epanastatikh gymnastikh, les kai briskomaste 30 xronia pisw".\nSymfwna me to EQNOS "me rhtorikh dialogoy o ypoyrgos Apasxolhshs epixeirei na diaskedasei tis eilhmmenes apofaseis gia to elastiko oktawro. Sto neo misqologio skontace h syzhthsh gia tis syllogikes diapragmateyseis sto Dhmosio".\nH NIKH ypogrammizei oti "sto stoxastro ths politikhs kritikhs toys qetoyn ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kai h GSEE ton ideologiko prosanatolismo twn kybernhtikwn epilogwn kai anadeiknyoyn tis anamenomenes epiptwseis toys sthn oikonomia kai thn koinwnia".\nH METRO tonizei oti "o epikoinwniakos polemos anamesa sthn kybernhsh kai ta syndikata exei prokalesei sygxysh stoys polites gia tis prowqoymenes metarryqmiseis kai allages, opws katadeiknyei h panelladikh dhmoskophsh ths Metron Analysis, poy dienerghqhke kata paraggelia ths GSEE".\nTa NEA ektimoyn oti "ayjhseis-sok stis antikeimenikes ajies, poy fqanoyn ews kai to 207%, proteinoyn oi eforoi alla kai oi armodies epitropes poy exoyn systaqei stoys nomoys ths xwras".\nH KAQHMERINH grafei oti "thn plhrh anadiorganwsh twn forologikwn yphresiwn, me stoxo thn ejaleich ths diafqoras, proteinei porisma texnokratwn toy Dieqnoys Nomismatikoy Tameioy, poy paradoqhke xqes ston ypoyrgo Oikonomias k. G. Alogoskoyfh. Symfwna me plhrofories, oi jenoi eidikoi diatypwnoyn sygkekrimenes protaseis gia ton periorismo toy ariqmoy twn DOY, wste kai me thn oloklhrwsh ths mhxanografhshs, na ayjhqoyn ta esoda toy Dhmosioy kai na ejaleifqei h diafqora. H megalh ektash ths forodiafyghs, symfwna me toys eidikoys toy Organismoy, symbadizei me to fainomeno ths diafqoras kai gi'ayto proteinetai h analhch drastikwn prwtoboyliwn prokeimenoy na spasoyn ta yphresiaka stegana poy diaiwnizoyn thn katastash anejarthta apo thn opoia kybernhtikh allagh".\nSymfwna me ton ELEYQERO "metra gia thn antimetwpish ths spatalhs toy dhmosioy tomea kai ths apotelesmatikothtas twn foroeispraktikwn mhxanismwn proteinei to DNT me thn ekqesh poy paredwse ston ypoyrgo Oikonomias k. G. Alogoskoyfh. O k. Alogoskoyfhs synanthqhke me thn apostolh toy Dieqnoys Nomismatikoy Tameioy, eidikoys se qemata forologikhs dioikhshs kai dhmosiwn dapanwn, poy episkefqhkan epeita apo prosklhsh toy thn Ellada".\nTo BHMA grafei oti "tis protaseis toy gia thn anamorfwsh toy forologikoy systhmatos paredwse xqes ston ypoyrgo Oikonomias to klimakio toy DNT. Sthn 78 selidwn ekqesh aktinografeitai to forologiko systhma ws "ayqaireto kai alloprosallo" kai diatypwnetai seira protasewn: allages ston tropo eisprajhs toy FPA kai twn lhjiproqesmwn ofeilwn, katarghsh twn mikrwn Eforiwn ws estiwn diafqoras klp. Epishs, didontai odhgies gia elegxoys kai prostima".\nO LOGOS shmeiwnei oti "thn antiqesh toy sthn epektash toy wrarioy leitoyrgias twn emporikwn katasthmatwn to Sabbato ejefrase xqes to proedreio ths Eqnikhs synomospondias Ellhnikoy Emporioy, kata th synanthsh toy me ton grammatea ths KE ths ND Baggelh Meimarakh. H kybernhsh einai anoixth na syzhthsei akomh kai sth Boylh opoies texnikes protaseis mporoyn na beltiwsoyn to nomosxedio gia th dieyrynsh toy wrarioy twn katasthmatwn. Xwris omws na alloiwnoyn to basiko pyrhna ths filosofias toy, dhlwse o k. Meimarakhs meta th synanthsh".\nO ELEYQEROS TYPOS yposthrizei oti "eyloga erwthmatika prokalei h xqesinh prwtofanhs energeia ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs na ekdwsei epishmh anakoinwsh, me thn opoia enhmerwne toys dhmosiografoys oti jekinaei prodikastikh diadikasia enantion ths Elladas gia parabiash ths koinotikhs nomoqesias sto qema twn onomastikopoihshs twn metoxwn twn epixeirhsewn MME kai liges wres argotera na thn aposyrei. H olh ypoqesh dhmioyrgei erwthmatika, dioti kapoios etoimase thn anakoinwsh kai malista htan kai metafrasmenh sta ellhnika. To kairio erwthma einai pws etoimasthke anakoinwsh kai apo poioys gia ena qema to opoio den syzhthqhke sthn Olomeleia twn epitropwn. Me alla logia, proejoflhqhke mia apofash prin akomh syzhthqei sto kolegio twn epitropwn. Apo poioys kai poia symferonta ekproswpoysan paramenei agnwsto, afoy h ekproswpos para tis pieseis twn dhmosiografwn htan lakwnikh".\nH APOFASH isxyrizetai oti "h ejomoiwsh twn misqwn pros ta epanw sto Dhmosio qa arxisei stadiaka apo thn epomenh xronia, me thn efarmogh toy neoy eniaioy misqologioy. Opws dhlwsan xqes oi ypoyrgoi P. Paylopoylos kai G. Alogoskoyfhs, meta th synanthsh toys me to proedreio ths ADEDY, qa doqoyn ayjhseis stoys xamhlomisqoys, den qa kopoyn ta epidomata kai qa ryqmistoyn ta qemata sxetika me tis metatajeis, ta barea kai anqygieina kai thn prowrh syntajiodothsh".\nH CITY PRESS ektima oti "plhrhs diastash apocewn ADEDY kai kybernhshs odhgei se anabolh toy dialogoy. Ta dhmosionomika problhmata kaqistoyn praktika adynath th synennohsh, para thn epiqymia ths kybernhshs na dieykolynei toys polyteknoys kai na prosferei xiliades prowres syntajeis stoys dhmosioys ypallhloys".\nH TRAFFIC prosqetei oti "diastash apocewn gia to eniaio misqologio, ton katwtato misqo kai ta barea kai anqygieina katagrafhke sth synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn Pr. Paylopoyloy kai toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias G. Alogoskoyfh me thn ADEDY thn Tetarth".\nH XWRA ypogrammizei oti "jekinoyn apo Deytera oi proqesmies gia toys proswrinoys anaplhrwtes kai wromisqioys ekpaideytikoys. Oi aithseis qa ypoballontai sta grafeia twn Prwtobaqmiwn kai Deyterobaqmiwn Dieyqynsewn, enw eidika kinhtra kai anagnwrish proyphresias parexontai stoys ekpaideytikoys toy idiwtikoy tomea".\nH ANW KATW anaferei oti "ston Astera Boyliagmenhs kaqe Sabbatokyriako "koboyn" yperariqma eisithria gia thn pisina, xwris na yparxoyn oi analoges japlwstres kai oi aneseis poy plhrwnoyn oi polites. Krymmenes japlwstres "fanerwnontai", otan dwseis poyrmpoyar 10 kai 20 eyrw stoys ypallhloys, thn idia wra poy oi ychlobaqmoi ths Eqnikhs Trapezas kai alloi "asteres" toy dhmosioy kanoyn katalhch xwris na plhrwnoyn eisodo".\nH ELEYQERH WRA tonizei oti "egkaqetoi toy prwhn Patriarxh Ierosolymwn Eirhnaioy me epikefalhs ton Arximandrith Eirhnaio hrqan xqes sta xeria me klhrikoys toy Patriarxeioy Ierosolymwn se mia prospaqeia katalhcews twn Patriarxikwn Grafeiwn. O prwhn Patriarxhs blepontas to edafos na xanetai ap' ta podia toy to paizei tsampoykas kai mpoykadoros. Ws gnwston thn allh ebdomada arxizoyn oi diadikasies ekloghs toy neoy Patriarxh".\nO ADESMEYTOS TYPOS (Mhtsh) sxoliazei oti "kaqoristikos fainetai pws einai o rolos toy grammatea ths Neas dhmokratias Baggelh Meimarakh oson afora stis epafes me toys koinwnikoys etairoys sxetika me tis allages poy prowqei h kybernhsh, epibebaiwnontas kai sthn prajh ton anabaqmismeno rolo toy kommatos, rolos poy qelei th N.D. na afoygkrazetai th fwnh t oy polith kai na einai o syndetikos krikos me thn kybernhsh".\nEJPRES: "To DNT paredwse to porisma gia tis allages sth forologikh dioikhsh kai zhtei Metra taxeias apodoshs".\nHMERHSIA: "Anoigei neo metwpo kai stis sygkoinwnies. Rizikes allages meta ton Aygoysto proanaggellei o B. Meimarakhs".\nKERDOS: "Atolmes allages sto ergasiako. Xamenh kai pali h antagwnistikothta. H kybernhsh ypanaxwrei ypo to baros twn antidrasewn".\nH NAYTEMPORIKH: "Neo forologiko systhma mas proteinei to DNT. Eishgeitai 5 basikes allages se elegktikoys mhxanismoys kai eisprajh xrewn".\nH NAYTEMPORIKH grafei oti "pente basikes allages gia ton elegxo twn forologoymenwn, alla kai thn taxyterh eisprajh twn xrewn, eishghqhkan sto oikonomiko epiteleio oi empeirognwmones toy DNT, me stoxo thn kalyterh leitoyrgia toy forologikoy systhmatos. Ta stelexh toy DNT proteinoyn opws yioqethqei amesa to bretaniko montelo elegxwn kai eishgoyntai na katarghqoyn oi eynoikes ryqmiseis gia tis ekkremeis ypoqeseis, poy xarakthrizontai tritokosmikes".\ntypos2html v1.03a run on Thursday, 14 July 2005 - 21:43:44 UTC


url: =Deytera, 1 Septembrioy 2008\nAriqmos Deltioy: 156621557\nAqhna, 1 Septembrioy 2008\nXairete, kalh ebdomada kai kalo mhna.\nO Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, opws gnwrizete, anaxwrhse shmera to meshmeri gia tis Bryjelles, prokeimenoy na symmetasxei sthn ektakth Synodo toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy. Gia thn ejelijh ths Synodoy toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy qa enhmerwnontai oi synadelfoi sas kai oi antapokrites oi opoioi briskontai ekei, apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo k. Qeodwro Roysopoylo, o opoios synodeyei ton Prwqypoyrgo.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Me mia kataxwrhsh sto Fyllo ths Kybernhshs 1443 stis 7/3/2005, o k. Boylgarakhs mazi me th syzygo toy synesthsan mia etairia diaxeirishs akinhtwn, dhladh, agora, pwlhsh, misqwsh oikopedwn kai akinhtwn. H edra brisketai Nayarinoy 6, poy an den kanw laqos, einai kai to politiko grafeio toy k. Boylgarakh. Sas erwtw: Enas Ypoyrgos mporei na einai kai mesiths;\nANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to qema. Synepws, den exw kati na sas pw ep` aytoy.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Ep` aytoy, ean moy epitrepete. Epeidh yparxoyn sygkekrimena stoixeia kai sas milaw me sygkekrimena stoixeia, mporoyme na bgaloyme symperasma pleon oti h syzygos toy k. Boylgarakh eneplakh me ayth thn idiothta ths sthn ypoqesh ths monhs Batopedioy;\nANTWNAROS: Na mh bgalete kanena symperasma. Ola ta stoixeia perilambanontai sth synolikh apanthsh poy exei dwsei epi toy qematos o k. Boylgarakhs me grapth anakoinwsh.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Kai kati allo qa hqela. Egine gnwsto oti me apofash toy k. Tasoyla, toy Yfypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas, ton Ioylio toy 2008, ejairoyntai apo th strateysh oi monaxoi toy Agioy Oroys. Oysiastika, dhladh, allaje thn apofash h opoia yphrxe apo to 2005 kai h opoia isxye mexri ton Ioynio toy 2008 kai eixe ginei kai me th symfwnh gnwmh ths Ekklhsias, oi monaxoi na strateyontai. Mhpws mporeite na mas peite, giati egine ayto;\nANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to qema. Eyxaristws, an qelete, kata th diarkeia ths hmeras na enhmerwqw apo ton armodio Yfypoyrgo k. Tasoyla, apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, kai na sas dwsw apanthsh. H mporeite, bebaiws, na apeyqynqeite kai h idia h oi synadelfoi sas ston k. Tasoyla, o opoios, opws gnwrizete, apanta eyxaristws stis erwthseis twn dhmosiografwn.\nFANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h k. Mpakogiannh, se dhlwsh ths se kyriakatikh efhmerida, sthn ``Kyriakatikh Eleyqerotypia'', tonise pws an enas boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias katachfisei ena nomosxedio, gia paradeigma, apo ekei kai pera, leei, kata th gnwmh ths, o Kwstas Karamanlhs kai h kybernhsh den qa ginoyn omhros kanenos kai prepei na pame se ekloges. H kybernhsh yioqetei tis apoceis toy koryfaioy stelexoys ths;\nANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Oi kanones, basei twn opoiwn leitoyrgei h Dhmokratia mas, einai kala gnwstoi.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy: Fainetai pws apo th diatypwsh ths Ypoyrgoy oti olh h kybernhsh fobatai gia to endexomeno na katachfisei kapoios boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias, kybernhtiko nomosxedio. Isxyei oti fobatai h kybernhsh tyxon katachfish kybernhtikoy nomosxedioy;\nANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na sas pw, to eipa. Ayta einai dika sas sxolia, ta opoia den symmerizomai.\nKAKALHS: H kybernhsh kai o armodios Ypoyrgos epimenoyn oti den qigontai kaqoloy oi misqwtoi kai oi syntajioyxoi apo ta nea ektakta foroeispraktika metra, alla wstoso thn idia stigmh o k. Alogoskoyfhs den dieykrinizei ti qa ginei me toys xiliades ergazomenoys ston idiwtiko tomea poy ameibontai me deltio paroxhs yphresiwn, to gnwsto mplokaki. Eiste se qesh na to kanete eseis ayto;\nANTWNAROS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs me tis apanthseis toy exei dieykrinisei ola ayta ta qemata.\nKAKALHS: Akribws ayto lew, oti den einai jekaqaro. O k. Alogoskoyfhs parepemce sthn efarmogh stis epixeirhseis, oi opoies qa prepei na efarmosoyn thn ergatikh nomoqesia. Ma, an htan na efarmosoyn thn ergatikh nomoqesia, qa to ekanan hdh. Den to kanoyn. Mporeite na antimetwpisete to problhma;\nANTWNAROS: Parapempw ston k. Alogoskoyfh.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Tatoylhs, me epistolh toy, h opoia dhmosieyqhke se kyriakatikh efhmerida, oysiastika leei, ballei enantion toy periballontos toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai leei oti o Prwqypoyrgos parasyretai. Parasyretai o Prwqypoyrgos;\nANTWNAROS: Kanena sxolio gia ta keimena poy moy anaferate.\nKAKALHS: Epishs, ston idio isxyrismo oti den qigontai kaqoloy oi misqwtoi kai oi syntajioyxoi, mas lete poios qa plhrwsei toys ayjhmenoys foroys kata 20% sth forologia twn aytokinhtwn h me ta kaysima, poy etoimazei h kybernhsh;\nANTWNAROS: Se ola ta qemata exei anaferqei o k. Alogoskoyfhs diejodika kai thn hmera poy paroysiase tis forologikes ryqmiseis kai se synenteyjeis tis opoies exei paraxwrhsei se diafora Mesa Enhmerwshs. Den exete para na anatrejete se ayta.\nKAKALHS: Exw anatrejei kai exw shmeiwsei ta ejhs apo tis dhlwseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh: Asfalws, den xreiazontai ektakta metra. Epishs, o idios, oyte zhteitai apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph oyte sxediazetai apo thn kybernhsh opoiasdhpote morfhs metro. Ayto poy proexei einai h pisth thrhsh toy Proypologismoy. Epishs, o idios o Ypoyrgos, o k. Alogoskoyfhs: H ellhnikh oikonomia einai qwrakismenh apenanti sth dieqnh krish. Oi epiptwseis apo th dieqnh krish einai periorismenes. Giati na ton paroyme sta sobara ton k. Alogoskoyfh me ayta poy leei twra;\nANTWNAROS: Exete thn ajiozhleyth, merikes fores, ikanothta - -ofeilw na omologhsw- - na apomonwnete fraseis apo megales synenteyjeis, dhmioyrgwntas entypwseis diaforetikes apo aytes poy einai h oysia twn synenteyjewn. Den mporw, loipon, na sas parakoloyqhsw se ayto.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh den blepw na apantate sta oikonomika qemata kai parapempete sth dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh, o k. Alogoskoyfhs afhse anapanthto omws kati se sxesh me to diko toy politiko mellon. Ontws yparxei to endexomeno o k. Alogoskoyfhs meta apo ton Ianoyario toy 2009, kalws na mas erqei, otan mas erqei, na antikatastaqei apo thn k. Mpakogiannh;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, leitoyrgei me apotelesmatikothta apo ton perasmeno Septembrio, opote oi Ellhnes polites gia deyterh fora se ligotero apo 4 xronia, edwsan thn entolh sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai ston Kwsta Karamanlh na kybernhsei th xwra. Den blepw gia poio logo anafereste se diafora mellontika senaria se xronoys makrinoys oi opoioi asfalws qa erqoyn. Den empodizei ayto se tipota thn kybernhsh na kanei kala th doyleia ths.\nNASOPOYLOS: Rwthse sygkekrimena, omws, o synadelfos. Eipe an h k. Mpakogiannh qa antikatasthsei ton k. Alogoskoyfh.\nANTWNAROS: Anaferqhka sto xrono. Einai san na syzhtame gia to an qa anateilei ayrio o hlios. Opws qa anateilei ayrio o hlios, etsi qa erqei kai o mhnas Ianoyarios. Ayto hqela na pw kai tipote allo.\nKAKALHS: Qa diabasate, xqes, thn kataxwrhsh twn Ellhnikwn Petrelaiwn, symfwna me thn opoia h timh diylisthrioy ths benzinhs, perilambanomenoy kai toy kostoys prwths ylhs, apotelei to 40% me 45% ths telikhs timhs toy katanalwth, enw oi foroi poy eisprattei to kratos anerxontai se 45% me 50%. An h kybernhsh qelei na bohqhsei toys oikonomika asqenesteroys kai toys misqwtoys kai toys syntajioyxoys, giati den meiwnei to meridio twn forwn poy pairnei apo ta kaysima. Antiqeta sxediazei nea ayjhsh twn kaysimwn.\nANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn diafora stoixeia, ta opoia kalo einai kaneis na ta dieykrinizei. Prwton, sthn Ellada exoyme th xamhloterh timh kaysimwn, opws eipa...\nKAKALHS: Kai toys xamhloteroys misqoys.\nANTWNAROS: Den me afhnete na oloklhrwsw thn apanthsh moy. An qelete na milhsete monos sas, mporeite na to kanete. Loipon, sthn Ellada exoyme th xamhloterh timh kaysimwn stis 15 xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Kai opws jerete, exoyme apo tis xamhloteres forologikes epibarynseis, oson afora to foro twn kaysimwn, sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Kai gi` ayto to logo prin apo merika xronia, eixe ypoxrewqei h xwra mas na anaprosarmosei th forologia sta kaysima. Ayth h prosarmogh oloklhrwnetai. Den exoyme dynatothta na meiwsoyme to foro sta kaysima opws eykola, alla oxi me sebasmo sthn pragmatikothta isxyrizontai orismenoi.\nKAKALHS: Amfisbhteite ta stoixeia twn ELPE, twn Ellhnikwn Diylisthriwn; Ta amfisbhteite;\nANTWNAROS: Ti sas eipa;\nKAKALHS: Ton teleytaio ypainigmo den katalaba. Poy apeyqynetai;\nANTWNAROS: Se aytoys oi opoioi lene na meiwqoyn oi foroi.\nKAKALHS: Ayto einai paralogo; To kratos exei faei to 50% twn forwn...\nANTWNAROS: Sas aphnthsa profanws, alla den antilambaneste ayto to opoio lew. Yparxei sygkekrimeno plafon, ej oswn gnwrizw, forologias twn kaysimwn.\nKAKALHS: To opoio poio einai;\nANTWNAROS: Katw apo to opoio plafon den mporei na pesei mia xwra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.\nKAKALHS: Apagoreyei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh katw apo 50% to foro;\nANTWNAROS: Qymaste, opws sas eipa, oti prin apo liga xronia h xwra mas, h Ellada eixe ypoxrewqei - -nomizw oti osoi parakoloyqoyn to briefing to gnwrizoyn ayto to pragma- - na anaprosarmosei th forologia, ayto poy leme ton eidiko foro sta kaysima, dioti htan xamhloteros apo ayto poy epetrepe h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. En pash periptwsei, eyxaristws na enhmerwqw kai na sas dwsw sygkekrimena safh stoixeia meta to briefing. Oso gia th sygkekrimenh anakoinwsh poy lete den gnwrizw to akribes periexomeno ths.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Zhtw syggnwmh apo toys synadelfoys. Qa epanelqw sto Batopedio. Kyrie Ekproswpe, symfwna me to symbolaio, to opoio eixe syntaxqei ton Ioylio toy 2007, to symbolaio poy aforoyse th metabibash toy Olympiakoy Akinhtoy sth Monh Batopedioy, h metabibash qa eprepe na exei oloklhrwqei stis 15 Septembrioy toy 2007. Qewreite tyxaio ayto to gegonos;\nANTWNAROS: Ola ta qemata poy exoyn sxesh me to sygkekrimeno zhthma, to opoio qetete kat` epanalhch kata th diarkeia toy briefing, qa apanthqoyn, opws exoyme pei apo thn perasmenh ebdomada, dia ths koinoboyleytikhs odoy. Einai antikeimeno erwthshs sta plaisia ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias. Synepws, qa apanthqei me to synhqh tropo.\nFANIDHS: Na epanelqw kai egw sto erwthma poy sas eixa qesei prin. Eipate oti oi kanones toys opoioys leitoyrgei h Dhmokratia mas einai gnwstoi. Einai safes oti einai gnwstoi. Omws, den mas dieykrinisate ti qa ginei ean katachfisei enas boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias ena nomosxedio. Giati den einai ypoxrewmenos o Prwqypoyrgos na paei se ekloges. H k. Mpakogiannh, omws, leei ``pame se ekloges''.\nANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. H apanthsh poy edwsa einai eparkhs.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Syggnwmh, ep` aytoy poy rwthse o synadelfos. Exoyme th dhlwsh toy k. Tatoylh oti diafwnei me to Kthmatologio kai exoyme kai th dhlwsh toy k. Manwlh poy leei oti diafwnei me mia seira forologikwn metrwn. Sas apasxolei ayto h oxi;\nANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn. Sas to exw pei.\nKAKALHS: H kybernhsh proanhggeile th meiwsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn gia misqwtoys kai syntajioyxoys apo to 2010 mexri to 2014, alla den eipe tipota gia th mh timariqmopoihsh ths forologikhs klimakas, poy qa exei san apotelesma na plhrwnoyn perissotera gia foroys. Qelete na to dieykrinisete;\nANTWNAROS: Profanws, jexnate oti h shmerinh kybernhsh einai ekeinh poy apo to 2004 mexri fetos anaprosarmose...\nKAKALHS: Den tis exei timariqmopoihsei.\nANTWNAROS: ... to aforologhto kata 20%, apo tis 10.000 stis 12.000 eyrw.\nKAKALHS: Omws, den exei kanei tipota gia th forologikh klimaka. Apo to 2004 exei parameinei sta idia. H forologikh klimaka den exei timariqmopoihqei.\nANTWNAROS: Wfeloyntai, loipon, me bash ta stoixeia poy molis sas edwsa, oi xamhlomisqoi kai oi xamhlosyntajioyxoi. Ekeinoi, dhladh, poy to exoyn perissotero anagkh.\nKAKALHS: Ta stoixeia lene oti oi misqwtoi poy katebalan to 2004 to 44% twn synolikwn forwn, to 2007 katebalan to 50% kai oi ergodotes apo to 43% katebhkan sto 36%. To amfisbhteite;\nANTWNAROS: Enas logos, loipon, parapanw wste ekeinoi oi opoioi den einai synepeis stis forologikes toys ypoxrewseis na klhqoyn twra na einai synepesteroi.\nKAKALHS: Toys misqwtoys ennoeite;\nANTWNAROS: Oxi, ennow toys alloys. Ekeino to opoio, loipon, nomizw oti mia koinwnia den mporei na dexqei - - kai ayto einai koinwnikh adikia- - einai orismenoi na forodiafeygoyn h na apofeygoyn thn plhrwmh forwn, opws exoyn ypoxrewsh, sto metro twn eisodhmatwn toys, enw alloi polites, h megalh pleiochfia twn politwn, einai apolytws synepeis. Se ayth akribws thn kateyqynsh katateinoyn oi nees prwtoboylies, oi symplhrwmatikes prwtoboylies tis opoies anaptyssei to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.\nKAKALHS: H epanafora twn tekmhriwn kai o kefalikos foros epi dikaiwn kai adikwn stoys eleyqeroys epaggelmaties den einai omologia apotyxias oti oi elegktikoi mhxanismoi adynatoyn na syllaboyn toys forofygades;\nANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti qemata poy sxetizontai me thn anamorfwsh toy hdh yparxontos kaqestwtos tekmhriwn diabiwshs qa syzhthqoyn ekei poy prepei na syzhthqoyn, sto Eqniko Symboylio gia thn antimetwpish ths forodiafyghs. Antikeimeno einai panta na klhqoyn na antapokriqoyn stis ypoxrewseis toys ekeinoi oi opoioi, eis baros toy koinwnikoy synoloy, den antapokrinontai se aytes tis ypoxrewseis poy exoyn.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Monday, 1 September 2008 - 16:31:13 UTC


url: =Hack facebook password and crossfire?\nWorld War Bikers :: World War Bikers :: Argumentation and others\nby Sami on 17/1/2010, 21:10\nYparxei kanena programataki h kati paromio gia na vroume kodikous facebook?????\nEpisis,3erete kanena hack gia to crossfire?\nPlace : add\nHobbies : ad\nHumor : ad\nRe: Hack facebook password and crossfire?\nby SaiD on 7/4/2010, 06:43\nKapote htan to pirates file m kai apoti thimame to eixe anebasei kapoios kai edw alla dn doulebei pleon o server apo to programataki\nNumber of messages : 244\nHobbies : Na_Pedebome_Me_Kodikous\nHumor : Spanio_Kai_Eklekto\nby satan on 8/6/2010, 15:16\nme endiaferei k mena i faci ama brite tpt please peite to\nHobbies : polles\nHumor : asto kalitera\nby bagelaki on 21/9/2010, 20:24\nKalispera mipos bre8ike kapoio programataki??????? Giati nomizo oti kapois kai kala filos mou kanei treli mpinia sto Facebook (((((((((((\nby stavros on 5/10/2010, 20:53\nkalispera kai apo emena endiaferomai gia kati tetio kanena programataki gia kwdikous facebook\nPlace : ellada\nHobbies : katadiseis\nHumor : poli\nby Hercules on 12/10/2010, 18:21\naderfia pante sto youtube k psa3te ekei exei alla ola ena me plirwmh. Ta ftiaxmnoun omades xaker k ta poulane .\nPlace : salonika,kalamaria\nHobbies : pc,bowling,boltes ktlp\nHumor : mpoliko\nby matador on 14/10/2010, 23:52\nåìåíá óéãïõñá ìðçêáí óôï hotmail...êáé óôï facebook...óêåöôùìáé óïâáñá íá áíôáðïäùóù áëëá ïëá ôá ðñïãñáìáôá åéíáé ìå ðëçñùìç....ìçðùò êáé ðëçñùíù êáé ìëêáò èá ðéáóôù ÷ùñéò íá å÷ù áõôï ðïõ èåëù?\nPlace : libadeia\nHobbies : agrotis\nHumor : ano toy kanonikou xaxaxxaxa\nby matador on 14/10/2010, 23:56\nâáóéêá ôï hotmail and facebook áõôçò ðïõ ôï åêáíå èåëù íá áíáóôáôùóù.âïçèçóôåìå êáé ðïéïò îåñåé éóùò áíôáðïäùóù êáðïéá óôéãìç åõ÷áñéóôù\nby lola 77 on 15/10/2010, 03:04\nkalispera sas. an breite kati tetoio to 8elw ki egw. emena moy kanane megali zimia sto facebook kai sto hotmail. mesw tis sindesis brikane akoma kai pou menw! pws ginete auto? pws mporoun na to broun? rwtisa kapoio gnwsto mou pou asxoleite upologistes kai leei oti leitourgise san GPS i sindesi mou. ti programma einai auto? aloimono an iparxei! alla an uparxei to 8elw. kai an mporeite na mou peite pvs mporv na dw poios mpainei mesa sto hotmail mou kai parakolou8ei tis sunomilies mou opws episis kai sto facebook? mou kanane megali zimia! sas euxaristw polu\nHobbies : gym\nby SaiD on 16/10/2010, 23:45\nPaidia eseis to kalitero pou exete na kanete einai na bazete megalous kai asinithistous kwdikous gia na prostatepsete oso mporeite tous logariasmousas katarxas. Epita na min anigete diafora mail apo agnostous paraliptes h' na min pate kai katebazete oti nane ston hpologistisas. Oso afora ayto me to oti plironeis kai sou briskoun ton kwdiko sou einai ola moufes!!! Min petaksete tsampa ta xrimata sas! Epita oso afora ayto gia tis sindesis einai poli eykolo na breis tin ip tou olou kai genika ti grami exei kai to pou menei. Kante mia anazitisi gia ip kai tha dite oti to google tha sas diksi kai to pou menete. Gia na apofigete kati tetio kai niothete ektethimenos katebaste to hide ip kai iste kalimenei. Allla panta iparxei o fobos eseis san xristes tou diadiktiou to kalitero pou exete na kanete einai apla na diskolebete ti douleia ton hackers Elpizw na fanika xrisimos!\nby lola 77 on 24/10/2010, 11:32\nKalimera. s euzaristw poli gia ti simbouli sou. ekanaformat kai allaksa tous kwdikous. pws mporw na brw ki egw to ip kapoiou kai na dw pou menei?\nby SaiD on 24/10/2010, 12:45\nTha anartiso ena thema pou tha to eksigi ayto to pragma se sintomo xroniko diastima.\nSygnomi an kathisterisw apla iparxei megalo forte ergasion ayti ti bdomada\nby panahs93 on 3/11/2010, 18:05\nkalispera vrethike tipota ?\nPlace : kipros\nHumor : megalo\nby Sami on 21/11/2010, 18:49\neukolo einai..na vreis enan pass...ego gia msn xero oxi gia facebook..\nmporeis na ta vreis me poulous tropous\n1)brute force /2)rat\nby nerofidas on 22/11/2010, 05:07\nfile semi..boreis na mou peis otan kai ama boreis pws ginete me brutal force??\nPlace : Florina\nHobbies : Djing\nby nektarouba on 30/11/2010, 01:23\nre paidia gia facebook uparxei programma telika pou briskei ton kwdiko to0 allo??\nnomizw 8a htan pl endiaferon!!\nkai parepiptontws...kalws sas brhka\nPlace : korudallos\nHobbies : sxoleio\nHumor : to katexw\nby SaiD on 1/12/2010, 18:46\nRe giati den diabazete kai ta poio pano olokliri ti sizitisi!.... H' an oxi oli mexris otou parete kapoies plirofories oloi mpenete kopanate to idio arkibos kai kai kanete copy past....\nKalos se brikame nektarouba\nden eimai kakos na helparo thelw alla psakste kai ligo re palikaria kai... despinides\nElpizw na min tromaksa kanena XD kai na sinexisete na kanete sizitisoula aaxxaxaxaax\nby nektarouba on 2/12/2010, 00:40\nsoz apla den 3erw na to xrhsimopoiw kala :/\nkai isws na mn prosexa an to exo0n 3ana rwthsei....\n3ereis ti...egw na psa3w....alla ti ginetai s peruptwsh po0 psaxnw edw kai 3 4 xronia?\n(ta eixa kapote m enan tupo po0 h3ere apo hack..kai to mn po0 ekane htan na m klebei t kwdiko kai na mn m boh8aei na to kanw k egw...kai m aresei pollh h olh fash g auto prospa8w 3 xronia :/\nmwre dikio exeis k esu dn boreis na t peis etsi apla..alla egw exw apiudhsei!! ta exw psa3ei ola !!!\nby SaiD on 5/12/2010, 12:42\nXixixi giati den tou eipes prin xorisete na sou dosi h' na sou diksi ton tropo axxxaxaxa\nKoita gia na trabiksis enan kwdiko pleon apo to fb epidi tou exoun alaksi tropo litourgias o poio apotelesmatikos tropos einai na riksis ena ipotithemeno trojan sto pisi tou thimatos poy tha trabiksi apo ta cookis tous kwdikous pou thes h' na kaneis mia fakeslida tou fb na tin anartisis sto diadiktio kai molis kapoios kanei klik! sto url kai paei na kanei sindesi me ta stixia tou na stalthoun se sena hdika gia to deytero exei arketo yliko. Ayti einai h tropoi gia kapoion pou psaxni edw kai toso kairo.\nSxetika me aytous tous tropous einai eykolo twra an thes na kaneis epithesei se server tou fb tha prepei na exeis kapoies genikes gnoseis kai ligo psagmenes\nPerimeno nea sou\nby nektarouba on 8/12/2010, 01:05\nxaxaxaxa gt htan go0ro0ni!! as mhn sunexisw to 8ema g auton ton tupo( gt tetoioi blakes dn a3izei na zo0n..)\ngt pame se allo klado...koinoniko0 endiaferodos kai tetoia !!!\nkoita auto to deutero po0 les..mo0 ako0getai kapos bato!!! :PP\nalla kai pali ''it's greek to me'' :$\neuxaristw gia to endiaferon ek twn proterwn!!!\nby SaiD on 10/12/2010, 20:12\nEla re siga ti eyxaristo\nXerome pou boithaw kai katarxas giayto pistebw eimai edw Gia pes ti ekanes brikes kamia lisi apo ayta pou sou eipa? Ena nai h' oxi ftanei\nby makisblack on 11/12/2010, 13:55\nkalispeara!! tha mporousa na exo kapies plirofories sxetika me to darkcomet-rat v2.2!!! exo kani ekgatastasi ton server enfanizete kanonika alla den ksero pos mporo na vro alous server!! h atoma pou na mporo na tous elenkso !! eyxaristo\nPlace : thessaloniki\nby nektarouba on 11/12/2010, 18:08\nkoita agaphte m eimai pl arxaria g na brw lush akoma\n8a htan kalutero ama boro0ses na m bih8hseis kapwa apo kana msn gt eble3es ap oti katalabes :PP\nama dn boreis mn m agxwnesai apla dn 8a t brw pote :PP\nby SaiD on 12/12/2010, 00:07\nXexexe kanena problima den anxonome ok. Na se boithisw oso mporw. Alla gia na to katalabeis prgmatika tha prepei na kaneis kai esy kapoia bimata. Gia arxei an thes des gia msn pou exoume enabasei kapoia pragmatakia edw gia na katalabeis kai sto peripou tin texniki. A oso afora to msn ti na soupw den exo problima apla einai para ma para poli spanio na mpw msn. H monadiki logi gia na mpw tha einai na brw plirofories gia kanenan para gia chat Pio eykolo einai na ta leme apo edw.\nGia paradigma des edw --->\nFile mou makisblack oso afora to thema sou [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] oriste gia des edw. An den kanei douleia des ta paraplisia apo dipla pou exei.\nby koko on 19/12/2010, 00:59\npsaxnw sto google ta panta gia facebook hack alla den pezei ola einai fake ta programata...ama breite tropo peite to .. kai kalos sas brika...\nPlace : fhsxf\nHobbies : tyt\nHumor : gdfjk


url: =Athens News Agency: News in Greek (AM), 98-02-08\nAqhna, Ellada, 08/02/1998 (APE)\n- Ekloges shmera sthn Kypro.\n- Terasties oi zhmies ston Ebro.\n- Ntora Mpakogiannh-Antiqesh gia diagrafes.\n- Synexizontai oi agrotikes kinhtopoihseis.\n- Apokollhsh toyrkikoy ploioy.\n- Ekloges sto PASOK gia Nomarxiakes Epitropes.\n- Nea talaipwria sthn Olympiakh.\n- Merikh arsh apagoreyshs apoploy.\n- O Panaqhnaikos kerdise sth Beroia thn topikh omada me 3-0. - Apoce o agwnas Peristeri-Arhs, sto Mpasket.\nEkloges shmera sthn Kypro.\nChfizoyn apo to prwi 450 xiliades peripoy Kyprioi gia thn eklogh proedroy ths Dhmokratias. To ajiwma diekdikoyn 7 ypochfioi, enw symfwna me oles tis endeijeis, o shmerinos proedros, Glaykos Klhridhs kai o yposthrizomenos apo to AKEL kai to Dhmokratiko Komma, Giwrgos Iakwboy, qa perasoyn sto deytero gyro, poy qa ginei thn erxomenh Kyriakh, 15 toy mhna. Pantws, oi dhmoskophseis gia ton prwto gyro dinoyn elafry probadisma ston k. Iakwboy.\nTerasties oi zhmies ston Ebro.\nSe perissotera apo 100 xiliades ypologizontai ta stremmata twn kallierghsimwn ektasewn poy plhmmyrisan apo thn ypoxwrhsh fragmatwn toy potamoy sto nomo Ebroy. Logw ths yperxeilishs exoyn dhmioyrghqei sobara problhmata sto odiko kai sidhrodromiko diktyo toy nomoy. Apo xqes to apogeyma agnoeitai o 28xronos kynhgos, Spyros Galatsidas, apo ta Trikala Hmaqeias, otan h barka toy anatraphke ston potamo Ebro.\nNtora Mpakogiannh-Antiqesh gia diagrafes.\nThn antiqesh ths me thn apofash toy Peiqarxikoy Symboylioy ths ND ejefrase h Ntora Mpakogiannh, milwntas ston Polygyro. Prosferoyn, eipe, kakes yphresies otan epidiwkoyn merikoi atypo rolo Hraklewn toy stemmatos kai odhgoyn ektos kommatos stelexh poy edwsan to paron se oles tis maxes. H k. Mpakogiannh tonise oti qa parameinei sth Nea Dhmokratia kai qa agwnistei gia thn enisxysh toy. O proedros toy kommatos, Kwstas Karamanlhs, qa milhsei shmera se ekdhlwsh twn polyteknwn sto Aigio.\nSynexizontai oi agrotikes kinhtopoihseis.\nMe epanalambanomenoys apokleismoys tmhmatwn ths eqnikhs odoy, synexizoyn kai shmera tis kinhtopoihseis toys oi agrotes sto nomo Qessalonikhs. Xqes, apebh akarph h synanthsh ekproswpwn twn agrotikwn syllogwn Qessalonikhs kai Serrwn me ton ypoyrgo Gewrgias, Stefano Tzoymaka. Sth Larisa synedriazei shmera h Panqessalikh Syntonistikh Epitroph, prokeimenoy na kaqorisei thn peraiterw poreia twn agrotikwn kinhtopoihsewn sth Qessalia.\nApokollhsh toyrkikoy ploioy.\nSta anoixta ths Kerkyras anamenetai na epanalhfqoyn apo to prwi oi prospaqeies gia thn apokollhsh toy toyrkikoy skafoys, "SE OSMAN", to opoio prosaraje se braxonhsida, enw kateyqynotan se kroatiko limani. Sthn perioxh briskontai skafh toy Limenikoy, kaqws yparxei kindynos na byqistei to ploio, logw twn rhgmatwn poy exei ypostei sta yfala toy. Arxika o Toyrkos ploiarxos eixe arnhqei th bohqeia twn ellhnikwn arxwn,telika dexqhke na rymoylkhqei.\nEkloges sto PASOK gia Nomarxiakes Epitropes.\nChfizoyn shmera 250 xiliades melh toy PASOK se olh th xwra gia thn anadeijh newn nomarxiakwn epitropwn toy kommatos. O Kwstas Shmiths, exei dwsei safeis entoles sta hgetika stelexh, wste na epikrathsei klima hremias kai na apofeyxqoyn entaseis kai paraskhniakes meqodeyseis. Oi ekloges aytes qewroyntai idiaitera shmantikes, afoy oi nees nomarxiakes epitropes qa proetoimasoyn to komma gia to Synedrio kai qa ajiologhsoyn toys ypochfioys Nomarxes kai Dhmarxoys.\nNea talaipwria sthn Olympiakh.\nSynexizetai kai shmera h talaipwria twn epibatwn ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. H etairia anakoinwse xqes oti mataiwnontai epta pthseis toy ejwterikoy kai dyo toy eswterikoy, logw elleichs proswpikoy twn Iptamenwn Synodwn- Frontistwn.\nMerikh arsh apagoreyshs apoploy.\nMerikh arsh ths apagoreyshs toy apoploy twn ploiwn, anakoinwqhke to prwi apo to Limenarxeio Peiraia. Diejagontai ta dromologia twn ploiwn mono gia tis dytikes Kyklades, ta Xania kai to Reqymno.\nO Panaqhnaikos kerdise sth Beroia thn topikh omada me 3-0.\nO Panaqhnaikos kerdise xqes sth Beroia thn topikh omada me 3-0. To apogeyma synexizetai h 21h agwnistikh me ta ejhs paixnidia: Apollwn-Paniwnios, Hraklhs-Aqhnaikos,Kalamata-PAOK, Proodeytikh- SKONTA Janqhs, Panaxaikh- Panhleiakos kai Eqnikos-Iwnikos. Stis 5 qa ginei to paixnidi Kabalas-AEK kai stis 7 o agwnas Olympiakoy-OFH.\nApoce o agwnas Peristeri-Arhs, sto Mpasket.\nGia to prwtaqlhma Mpasket ths A1 kathgorias shmeiwqhkan xqes ta ejhs apotelesmata: Hraklhs-Apollwn Patrwn 81-91, PAOK-Dafnh 88-65, Panaqhnaikos- Paniwnios 95-77, Hrakleio-Papagoy 73-62, Sportingk-AEK 63-82. Stis 6.30 to brady qa ginei to paixnidi Peristeri-Arhs, enw ayrio qa ginei o agwnas Olympiakoy-Larisas.\nOi epishmes times pwlhshs twn jenwn nomismatwn,poy dinei h Trapeza ths Ellados einai: dolario HPA pros 288,70 draxmes, germaniko marko pros 160,75, galliko fragko pros 47,96, lira Agglias pros 475,28, elbetiko fragko pros 199,14, tis ekato italikes liretes pros 16,27, ta ekato gien Iapwnias pros 232,42, th lira Kyproy pros 545,70 kai thn ECU pros 316,68 draxmes.\nNefwseis anamenontai shmera se olh th xwra alla baqmiaia sta dytika, kentrika kai boreia qa ayjhqoyn kai qa brejei sta dytika, enw sta oreina qa xionisei. Oi anemoi qa pneoyn sta dytika ews metrioi, sta anatolika boreioi ews isxyroi kai to prwi sto notio Aigaio poly isxyroi ews qyellwdeis. H qermokrasia qa kymanqei sta boreia apo -4 ews 7 baqmoys, sta dytika apo -1 ews 12 kai stis ypoloipes perioxes apo 3 ews 13 baqmoys kelsioy. Sthn Attikh kai sth Qessalonikh problepontai nefwseis parodika ayjhmenes. Oi anemoi qa pneoyn asqeneis ews metrioi kai proskaira sthn Attikh isxyroi alla grhgora qa ejasqenhsoyn. H qermokrasia qa kymanqei sthn Aqhna 4 me 11 baqmoys kai sth Qessalonikh -1 me 6 baqmoys Kelsioy.\napegr2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 8 February 1998 - 8:00:25 UTC


url: = PROEDROS DHMOKRATIAS - ERGA ANAPTYJHS\n ANAPLHRWTHS YPEJ - KINEZIKH ANTIPROSWPEIA\n YPOYRGOS PAIDEIAS - SXOLEIA - GRIPH A`\nO Proedros ths Dhmokratias Dhmhtrhs Xristofias tonise oti ``den einai dynaton, kata th diarkeia ths dikhs mas proedrias, na akyrwqoyn erga ta opoia exoyn terastia shmasia gia thn anaptyjh ths ypodomhs gia ton politismo''.\nO Proedros Xristofias apantoyse stis anhsyxies poy ejefrase o Proedros toy EBE Leykwsias Xristodoylos Agkastiniwths peri anabolhs h kai akyrwshs ergwn sth Leykwsia, opws to Megaro Politismoy, to Arxaiologiko Moyseio kai h anaplash toy xwroy toy Palioy GSP, kata thn omilia toy sthn teleth kataqeshs toy qemelioy liqoy toy Polydynamoy Kentroy toy EBE Leykwsias apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias.\nAnebainontas sto bhma gia thn anagnwsh ths omilias toy, o k. Xristofias, milwntas ektos keimenoy, eipe oti ``den einai dynaton, kata th diarkeia ths dikhs mas proedrias, na akyrwqoyn erga ta opoia exoyn terastia shmasia gia thn anaptyjh ths ypodomhs gia ton politismo. Den einai dynaton na ginei kati tetoio''.\nProsqese oti ``malista, exei ginei logos gia anastolh (ths kataskeyhs toy Megaroy Politismoy), alla kai ayto qa to antimetwpisoyme gia na mhn anastalei to ergo''.\nShmeiwse oti ``epishs, kai to Moyseio exei terastia shmasia kai qa ergastoyme sklhra, oytws wste, epi dikhs mas proedrias, na proxwrhsei kai h oikodomhsh aytoy toy apolyta anagkaioy ergoy gia thn prwteyoysa ths Kyproy''.\n``Giati h Kypros, me thn politistikh klhronomia thn opoia exei klhronomhsei, den einai dynaton na synexisei th ftwxeia se o,ti afora sthn politistikh ypodomh'', symplhrwse.\nEipe, epishs, oti ``h oikonomikh anaptyjh den syndeetai kai me thn anagkaia politismikh anaptyjh, h opoia prepei na th synodeyei, kai ayto to keno h dikh mas h Kybernhsh qa prospaqhsei, stadiaka, na to kalycei''.\n``Einai eqniko kaqhkon kata th dikh moy thn apoch'', eipe.\nMilwntas, epishs, ektos keimenoy, o k. Xristofias eyxaristhse toys Proedroys kai ta Symboylia toy EBEL kai toy KEBE ``gia th sthrijh, thn empistosynh sto proswpo moy se o,ti afora tis dyskoles pragmatika kai poly epwdynes prospaqeies gia na termatisoyme ta deina toy kypriakoy laoy me thn epanenwsh toy topoy kai toy laoy mas sta plaisia mias dizwnikhs, dikoinotikhs omospondias, h opoia bebaiws na einai kai leitoyrgikh, na einai kai biwsimh kai na apokaqista ta kalws nooymena symferonta kai ta dikaiwmata twn Ellhnokypriwn kai twn Toyrkokypriwn''.\n``H sthrijh sas, pragmati, einai poly aparaithth kai thn ektimw ta mala'', eipe.\nSthn omilia toy, o k. Agkastiniwths ekane anafora kai sta problhmata ths oikonomias, tonizontas, metajy allwn, oti ``oles oi kybernhseis toy topoy einai xrewmenes me to skandalwdes chlo kostos ths dhmosias yphresias, me oles tis synepagomenes synepeies stoys deiktes ths oikonomias''.\nAnamenoyme, eipe o k. Agkastiniwths, ``na doyme pote kapoia kybernhsh qa tolmhsei na probei se diorqwtikes energeies''.\nAkoma, o Proedros toy EBEL kalese thn Kybernhsh ``na proxwrhsei se stoxeymena metra gia na jekinhsei jana h anaptyjh ths oikonomias, prosqetontas oti ``h cyxologia ths agoras exei katarrakwqei kai apaitoyntai metra gia anaqermansh ths oikonomias''.\nMe bash ta stoixeia poy anakoinwse, h Leykwsia exei xwroqethmenes 17 biomhxanikes zwnes kai treis biomhxanikes perioxes, enw sygkentrwnei peran toy 45% ths metapoihshs pagkypria kai sxedon to 50% ths ergodothshs ston klado.\nO k. Agkastiniwths ejefrase, parallhla, thn anhsyxia toy EBEL gia dhmosieymata ston Typo gia anabolh h akyrwsh ergwn sthn prwteyoysa, opws to Megaro Politismoy, to Arxaiologiko Moyseio kai h anaplash toy xwroy toy palioy GSP.\nEipe, telos, oti ``me tis apofaseis aytes h Kypros kindyneyei na xasei poso 100 ekatommyriwn eyrw, poy einai h xorhgia ths EE gi ayta ta erga''.\nTis eyxaristies ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias gia th synexh sthrijh ths Kinas, monimoy meloys toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE, sth dikaih prospaqeia toy kypriakoy laoy gia epanenwsh ths Kyproy, ejefrase o Anaplhrwths Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn Xarilaos Stayrakhs se antiproswpeia toy Eqnikoy Laikoy Kogkresoy ths Laikhs Dhmokratias ths Kinas, epikefalhs ths opoias htan o Antiproedros toy Kogkresoy Hua Jianmin, poy pragmatopoiei epishmh episkech sthn Kypro.\nEpishs, o k. Stayrakhs ejefrase sthn antiproswpeia, h opoia ton synanthse ypo thn idiothta toy ws Anaplhrwths Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, th desmeysh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias ``na synexisei na sthrizei tis kinezikes qeseis oson afora to qema ths Taiban kai toy Qibet``, enw aneptyje kapoies dynatothtes poy yparxoyn gia peraiterw enisxysh twn oikonomikwn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn, logw kai toy gegonotos oti h Kypros einai melos ths eyrwzwnhs kai diaqetei xamhloys forologikoys syntelestes kai symbaseis apofyghs diplhs forologias me polles xwres.\n``Tonisa stoys Kinezoys ajiwmatoyxoys oti eimaste h eyrwpaikh xwra, mesa sthn eyrwzwnh, me toys xamhloteroys foroys kai ena poly megalo diktyo symbasewn apofyghs diplhs forologias kai ara qa mporoyse h Kina na xrhsimopoihsei thn Kypro ws edra gia ependyseis poy kanei ston ypoloipo kosmo``, eipe o k. Stayrakhs, prosqetontas oti ayto ``einai kati poy anelaban na ejetasoyn prosektika kai isws yparxoyn prooptikes ayjhshs ayths ths synergasias``, kaqws ``ek prwths ocews fainetai oti toys endiaferei``\nPlhrws etoima se o,ti afora sth griph A` qa einai mexri tis 10 Septembrioy ta sxoleia, dhlwse o Ypoyrgos Paideias kai Politismoy Andreas Dhmhtrioy.\nSe dhlwseis toy, meta apo thn episkech toy sto Lykeio Kykkoy A, opoy enhmerwqhke gia to pws proetoimazontai ta sxoleia en ocei ths sxolikhs xronias, o k. Dhmhtrioy eipe: ``H aisqhsh moy einai oti qa eimaste plhrws etoimoi mexri tis 10 toy mhna, poy qa erqoyn oi maqhtes ws pros ta metra, tis afises kai to yliko poy aforoyn th griph A`''.\nOpws eipe, episkefqhke to Lykeio Kykkoy A` kyriws gia na enhmerwqei gia to kata poso fqanoyn oi odhgies kai to paketo twn drasewn toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias gia th Griph A kai na dei ean ontws ta sxoleia einai etoima kai ean paralambanoyn to yliko poy prepei.\nEpishs, anefere pws qelei na exei mia amesh antilhch gia ta sxoleia, sta opoia exoyme se ejelijh kataskeyastika erga\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Friday, 4 September 2009 - 11:29:27 UTC