url: =Aqhna, 14 Oktwbrioy 2004\nQa sas enhmerwsw gia to ayriano programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.\nStis 9:30 to prwi sto Zappeio, qa symmetexei se synanthsh ths Epitrophs Perifereiwn toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos. H synanthsh telei ypo thn aigida toy dhmoy Aqhnaiwn.\nStis 11, qa synanthqei me to dhmosiografo Kwsta Kabbaqa. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe yioqethsei thn idea toy dhmosiografoy, gia monimh syndesh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn me thn patrida mas, peran ths afhs ths flogas. Prokeitai gia mia idea me aytokinhta poy xrhsimopoioyn enallaktikes morfes energeias -kai ta opoia kataskeyazontai apokleistika apo panepisthmia oloy toy kosmoy- kai qa symmetasxoyn sth diadromh poy qa jekina apo thn Olympia kai qa katalhgei sthn polh poy kaqe fora qa diorganwnei toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.\nStis 11:30, qa exei synanthsh me to Manwlh Glezo.\nStis 12:00, qa exei synanthsh me to Dioikhth toy IKA k. Giannh Barqolomaio\nStis 12:30, qa exei synanthsh me to synqeth Giannh Markopoylo.\nSOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, blepoyme oti to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy perilambanei, peran apo politikes synanthseis kai alloy eidoys, koinwnikoy xarakthra. Exete kati na mas peite;\nROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos synantatai me proswpikothtes oxi mono ths politikhs, alla kai ths koinwnikhs zwhs kai me thn idiothta toy ws ypoyrgos Politismoy.\nPOYLIDOY: O k. Glezos eixe zhthsei o idios synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo;\nSOYGLERHS: O Proedros toy PASOK, se xqesinh synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy kommatos, milhse gia ``dikastiko trelokomeio''. Qa hqela to sxolio sas kai ean h Kybernhsh einai diaqesimh na mpei se ayth thn antiparaqesh kai thn entash twn politikwn ejelijewn.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai pws logoi askhshs antipoliteyshs odhghsan ton k. Papandreoy na ycwsei toys tonoys, kati poy den synhqize ws twra. Einai dikh toy epilogh kai den prokeitai na ton akoloyqhsoyme.\nPAPAGIANNHS: Qelw na ypobalw mia erwthsh me dyo skelh: To prwto afora tis sxeseis sas me ton k. Antwnaro, ean pragmati xqes, kata th diarkeia ths enhmerwshs twn politikwn syntaktwn, ton ``adeiasate'', opws yposthrizoyn shmerina dhmosieymata. To deytero afora to sxolio ths efhmeridas EQNOS, opoy xarakthrizei prwtoklasato stelexos ths paratajhs sas, ton k. Ebert, ``qlibero yperaspisth toy eqnikoy ntabatzh''.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Par@ oti apofeygw na anaferomai se se sxolia efhmeridwn, qewrw aparadektoys toys oroys poy xrhsimopoioyntai gia ton prwhn Proedro ths N.D., k. Miltiadh Ebert, apo opoydhpote kai an proerxontai. Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos toy erwthmatos sas, aposafhnisa mia qesh h opoia fanhke sthn arxh na mhn einai safhs. H synergasia moy me ton k. Antwnaro einai acogh. To gnwrizete, allwste, apo prwto xeri.\nIWANNOY: Pro hmerwn, eixate ena ranteboy me ton k. Emfietzogloy, proswpo to opoio apodeixqhke katalytiko sthn apofash poy phre to ESR, proxqes, kai den edwse pistopoihtiko diafaneias sthn AKTWR. Rwtw an sas eixe metaferei ayto to problhma o k. Emfietzogloy, an hsastan enhmeros kai an probhkate se kapoies energeies.\nROYSOPOYLOS: H syndesh twn dyo qematwn einai lanqasmenh. Den exei na kanei to ena me to allo. Opws eixe eipwqei kai tote toso apo emena, oso kai apo ton k. Antwnaro poy rwthqhke ekeines tis hmeres- o sygkekrimenos epixeirhmatias exei prosfygei sto Symboylio ths Epikrateias, exontas apoceis gia to qema toy basikoy metoxoy. Diabazontas tis efhmerides kai gnwrizontas oti h kybernhsh protiqetai na ferei sxedio nomoy poy na afora to basiko metoxo, zhthse na me dei gia na moy pei tis protaseis toy. Moy paredwse tis protaseis toy mono gi@ ayto to qema. Epanalambanw oti exw synanthqei me polloys anqrwpoys, eite prokeitai gia memonwmena proswpa poy exoyn sxesh me ta MME - ws ofeilw allwste- eite me enwseis, oi opoies ekproswpoyn MME, entos kai ektos Aqhnwn.\nGKOYTZANHS: Me toys diaplekomenoys, dhladh, kyrie Ypoyrge;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Oi synanthseis tis opoies kanw, einai anoiktes kai anakoinwsimes. Krinete eseis apo ekei kai pera, ean periexoyn proswpa san ayta poy eipate. Shmasia omws den exei toso me poion synantatai kaneis, oso h politikh poy askei kai ths opoias to apotelesma to blepete sthn prajh.\nSOYGLERHS: To epomeno ranteboy sas, meta ton k. Xatzhnikolaoy kai ton k. Kakaoynakh, me poion dhmosiografo @ stelexos qa einai, kyrie Ypoyrge;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Opoios dhmosiografos zhtei na me dei, to jerete polloi edw sthn aiqoysa apo proswpikh empeiria, me blepei. @Allwste, ayth einai h doyleia moy. Synantw dhmosiografoys, dieyqyntes twn meswn enhmerwshs, anqrwpoys poy kinoyntai peri ton ekdotiko xwro twn MME. Alla, ws fainetai, prepei na lew kai ta aytonohta.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Erntogan diaceydei ayta poy eipate pro mhnos, sthn Ekqesh ths Qessalonikhs, oti yparxei symfwnia gia meiwsh twn ejoplistikwn programmatwn. Ti lete;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Lew oti einai ena ayqaireto diko sas symperasma. O k. Erntogan erwthqeis -opws anaferetai kai sto deltio typoy ths ERT sthn opoia filojenhqhke h synenteyjh toy- gia to an me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo exoyn kanei kapoia synennohsh gia to zhthma ths meiwshs twn amyntikwn ejoplismwn, apanthse epi lejei: ``Fysika. Ayto qa einai pros ofelos twn dyo xwrwn''. H apanthsh toy, loipon, epibebaiwnei apolytws ta osa exei pei h Kybernhsh olo ayto to diasthma.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: An moy epitrepete, sto idio qema. Leei: ``Asfalws, einai kai mia genikh syzhthsh poy kaname. Ayto den einai problhma mono ths Elladas kai ths Toyrkias, einai genikotero problhma poy apasxolei olo ton planhth''.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws kai apasxolei olo ton planhth.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Ayth einai h dhlwsh toy k. Erntogan.\nROYSOPOYLOS: An epilejete ayto poy eseis qelete, bebaiws qa bgalete ena symperasma poy einai ayqaireto. Sas janalew: Sthn erwthsh ean exoyn kanei kapoia synennohsh me ton k. Karamanlh gia to zhthma ths meiwshs twn amyntikwn ejoplismwn, h apanthsh toy htan ``fysika''. Kai synexise ``ayto qa einai pros ofelos twn dyo xwrwn''. To amfisbhtei kanenas ayto;\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: qelete na mas peite kai (den akoygetai) gi@ ayth th synennohsh;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Exw pei o,ti htan na pw, edw kai poly kairo.\nXIDIROGLOY: Sth xqesinh synenteyjh toy k. Erntogan sthn Ellhnikh Thleorash, eidame oti o idios o Toyrkos Prwqypoyrgos apefyge na desmeyqei gia orismena pragmata, opws gia paradeigma thn anagnwrish ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai kapoia pragmata poy problepontai apo to Dieqnes Dikaio, opws to qema ths toyrkikhs politikhs enanti toy Oikoymenikoy Patriarxeioy kaih epanaleitoyrgia ths Qeologikhs Sxolhs ths Xalkhs. Ean kai efoson h toyrkikh hgesia emmeinei na mhn probainei se ayta poy prepei, malista enocei entajiakwn diapragmateysewn, poia qa einai h stash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Den apantw se erwthseis me ean kai efoson. En pash periptwsei, gia kaqena apo ta zhthmata poy rwtate kai aforoyn to Patriarxeio, th Qeologikh Sxolh Xalkhs, thn poreia ths Toyrkias pros ton ekdhmokratismo, thn enarmonish toy nomoqetikoy plaisioy ths se sxesh me to Koinotiko Dikaio, exei apanthsei o Prwqypoyrgos sth DEQ, alla kai egw polles fores. Ola ayta, apoteloyn paragontes poy synektimwntai gia thn ejelijh ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs ths xwras.\nTAKHS: Exei proklhqei enas qorybos kai yparxoyn kai antidraseis apo boyleytes toy PASOK sxetika me to ``kocimo'' ths omilias toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias apo thn ejetastikh ylh twn TEE gia th B@ Lykeioy. Yparxei kapoio sxolio; Dedomenoy oti h ka Giannakoy ekane kai xqes kai shmera dhlwseis kai eipe oti pente xronia htan ayto to maqhma kai oti kai tis prohgoymenes xronies eixan kopei apospasmata toy Seferh k.a.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Symfwna me ta dhmosieymata poy eida kai opws diatypwnetai h erwthsh, to Paidagwgiko Institoyto emfanizetai na exei logokrinei keimena kai na mhn ta exei perilabei sth didaktea ylh, pragma apolytws ceydes. To Paidagwgiko Institoyto anaferei sthn anakoinwsh toy oti to keimeno ayto, opws kai alla, perilambanontai sth didaktea ylh. Oloi gnwrizoyme oti yparxei didaktea ylh kai ejetastea ylh. Shmasia exei an didasketai ena keimeno kai oxi ean ejetazetai kapoios se ayto. Kata synepeia, einai parelkystika ta osa eipwqhkan kai grafthkan, xqes kai shmera, se sxesh me ayto to qema. Ta keimena ayta den afaireqhkan. Didaskontai kanonika.\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Parola ayta, den yparxei ena qema poy den ejetazontai;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Ti qema akribws yparxei;\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Einai to keimeno toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, to opoio diabase to 1999, paroysia toy Amerikanoy Proedroy k. Klinton kai sto opoio ekane anafora panw sta eqnika qemata.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Afaireqhke ayto to keimeno;\nKALOGEROPOYLOY: Giati na mhn ejetazetai;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Apeyqynqeite sto Paidagwgiko Institoyto. Sas apanthsa oti zhthma logokrisias opws eteqh einai entelws parelkystiko. Apo th stigmh poy didasketai to keimeno, poios swfrwn anqrwpos, poy gnwrizei thn ellhnikh glwssa, mporei na mas pei oti ayto apaleifqhke;\nTAKHS: Peran aytoy, exei kanei kai mia dhlwsh, xqes, h ka Giannakoy sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs, sxetika me to aithma twn boyleytwn toy PASOK na doqoyn sth dhmosiothta meteggrafes poy exoyn ginei kai aforoyn syggenika proswpa politikwn kai eipe oti ean ayta doqoyn sth dhmosiothta den qa to antejei, oyte h Boylh, alla oyte to politiko systhma mas. Giati qa breqoyn para polla gnwsta onomata apo to xwro ths politikhs se ayto ton katalogo. Yparxei kapoio sxolio; Exete kanei kapoia syzhthsh me thn ka Giannakoy kai sas exei pei poia einai ayta ta onomata kai poioys aforoyn;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, den exw kanei kamia syzhthsh. Sas qymizw mono oti den einai qema epiloghs kapoiwn onomatwn. Polla onomata akoysthkan sta MME, ekeines tis hmeres. Einai zhthma qesmikwn parembasewn ths kybernhshs kai ayto exei poly megalh shmasia. H qesmikh parembash paizei rolo kai oxi h onomatologia poy en telei den odhgei poyqena. H ypoqesh -qymizw oti jekinhse me erwthsh poy egine sth Boylh apo boyleyth toy PASOK- katelhje sto na teqei epiteloys ena qesmiko plaisio, pio antikeimeniko apo to prohgoymeno, gia to pws qa ginontai apo edw kai sto ejhs oi meteggrafes sta AEI. H qesmikh parembash, loipon, hrqe na sfragisei to telos mias anarxias poy yphrxe, na kleisei ta diafora paraqyra sta opoia anafereste kai na anoijei enan kainoyrgio dromo pio antikeimenikhs krishs, etsi wste o foithths poy zhta meteggrafh, na meteggrafetai.\nTAKHS: H dhlwsh ths kas Giannakoy oti den qa to antejei h Boylh kai to politiko systhma, sas fobizei; Giati rwthsame, xqes to brady, kapoioys boyleytes toy PASOK kai thn ka Rapth kai mas eipan oti den mas endiaferei. As bgoyn kai 30-40 boyleytes oti exoyn kanei meteggrafes gia na jekaqarisei h hra apo to stari.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Fysika kai den fobizei thn kybernhsh kati tetoio.\nIWANNOY: Qa doqoyn ayta ta onomata; Giati, otan dhlwnei h ypoyrgos Paideias oti qa dhmioyrghqei salos, oysiastika afhnei kai kapoies skies. Dhladh pisteyete oti prepei ayta ta onomata na ginoyn gnwsta; Diaforetika giati to leei h ka Giannakoy;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na apeyqynqeite sthn ka Giannakoy gia leptomereies. Oson afora tis ``skies'' poy lete, qa emene ws skia ean yphrxe emmesh anafora h ypainigmos gia sygkekrimena onomata h xwroys. Shmasia gia thn kybernhsh exei oti egine qesmikh parembash kai ekleise ena qema poy htan poly shmantiko gia ena megalo meros ths ellhnikhs koinwnias.\nXIWTHS: Blepw oti ekfrazete mia aporia gia ta shmerina dhmosieymata, se sxesh me thn ejetastea h didaktea ylh twn TEE. Den symfwneite oti o basikos kormos ths ylhs apoteleitai apo thn ejetastea ylh kai dhmioyrgei synepws ena problhma, proswpikothtes opws o Proedros ths Dhmokratias, o Mikhs Qeodwrakhs, alla kai proswpikh sas filh h ka Dhmoyla, ejairoyntai apo ayth thn ylh;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti, opws qetete to qema, emfanizetai san na afaireqhkan ta keimena ayta apo th didaktea ylh. Shmasia exei ean ta paidia mas didaskontai ayta ta keimena kai ta didaskontai. Den ta afairese kaneis. Einai deytereyon qema, an sto telos toy etoys qa ejetastoyn se ayta ta keimena. Yparxei kapoios apo edw @kai eimaste diaforetikes genies- poy na mhn perase apo to sxoleio kai na mhn eide oti h didaktea ylh einai perissoterh apo thn ejetastea ylh;\nPOYLIDOY: Eseis diabazate ayta ta opoia den eprokeito na dwsete;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Mas ta didaskan oi daskaloi mas sto sxoleio. O,ti einai sth didaktea ylh den apagoreyetai na didasketai. Antiqetws epiballetai.\nXIWTHS: Den dexeste oti h ejetastea ylh einai o kormos ths ylhs kaqe xronias kai se ayth epikentrwnoyn oi maqhtes tis prospaqeies toys;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Afairoyntai ta maqhmata ths didakteas ylhs apo to kaqhmerino maqhma;\nXIWTHS: Edw afairoyntai.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Afairoyntai apo thn ejetastea ylh. Didaskontai, omws, kata th diarkeia toy sxolikoy etoys.\nXIWTHS: Didaskontai, alla paramenei gnwsh deyterhs taxythtas.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to an einai gnwsh prwths h deyterhs taxythtas, qa prepei na ejetasoyme kai thn prosoxh poy deixnei kaqe daskalos kai maqhths sta keimena poy didaskontai, ston tropo didaskalias k.t.l. Antilambanomai ta erwthmata sas. Epanalambanw, omws, kati to opoio erxetai se amesh synafeia me th logikh: otan kati didasketai, einai paralogo kai parelkystiko na yposthrizetai apo opoiondhpote oti exei ginei logokrisia. Pisteyw oti ayth thn apoch thn katalabainei to megalytero meros twn Ellhnwn politwn.\nKAKALHS: Ena eidiko qema: Me poio skeptiko ekxwrhsate syxnothta gia th dhmioyrgia radiofwnikoy staqmoy sta Xania gia thn cyxagwgia twn amerikanikwn strateymatwn sth Soyda;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Opws jerete h ekxwrhsh syxnothtwn me bash to Syntagma kai toys efarmostikoys nomoys, ginetai apo to ESR.\nKAKALHS: Den yparxei allhlografia anamesa se esas kai toy ESR;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Yphrje allhlografia, yphrje aithma -opws yparxoyn polla aithmata- otan oi nomoi epitrepoyn thn ekxwrhsh syxnothtwn. To ESR einai ekeino poy apofasizei oristika.\nKAKALHS: H politikh qesh sas poia einai; Na ekxwrhqei h adeia gia th syxnothta;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Ean o nomos to epitrepei, den mporw na exw kamia antirrhsh. Ekei, poy diafwnw kai poy kata kairoys exw antirrhseis -kata toys mhnes poy yphretw se ayth th qesh- einai na ginetai kati to opoio den epitrepetai apo to Syntagma kai toys efarmostikoys nomoys. Otan to epitrepei to Syntagma kai o efarmostikos nomos, einai ypoxrewsh moy na symfwnhsw. Ypoxrewsh moy, epishs, einai na diafwnhsw kai na mhn ypogracw paranomes prajeis ws Ypoyrgos Epikrateias.\nXIWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, prin apo ligo kata thn omilia toy pros thn K.O. ths N.D. aposyndese th diadikasia ths ekloghs Proedroy Dhmokratias apo tis prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs gia th qespish enos neoy plaisioy diafaneias. Epimenei oti qa akoloyqhsei synainetikes diadikasies gia thn eklogh Proedroy Dhmokratias. Oi eishghseis poy fantazomai oti dexetai, oti ayth h diadikasia prepei na epitaxynqei, meleta h kybernhsh to endexomeno na epitaxynei tis prwtoboylies ths gia thn eklogh Proedroy ths Dhmokratias;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Molis shmera to eipe o Prwqypoyrgos. Eipe sto xrono ton opoio krinei oti einai dokimos gia na arxisoyn oi diadikasies.\nXIWTHS: Ean moy epitrepete, ayto einai arketa aoristo.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na sas pw thn hmeromhnia.\nXIWTHS: Den eipa akribws thn hmeromhnia@alla qa eisaste fantazomai -kai pleon to lene koryfaia stelexh ths paratajhs sas- oti h syzhthsh ayth gia thn eklogh Proedroy Dhmokratia, anafyetai se opoio allo zhthma ths epikairothtas kai ginetai alatopipero, opws eipe xarakthristika shmera koryfaio stelexos sas. Sas apasxolei ayto, oti empleketai synexws h diadikasia gia thn eklogh Proedroy Dhmokratias se opoio allo zhthma ths epikairothtas;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na prosqesw tipota perissotero. Kaqe pragma ston kairo toy, to exoyme pei.\nPAPAGIANNHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia to basiko metoxo: Yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories poy anaferoyn oti yparxei nomiko kwlyma ws pros ton apokleismo twn off shore etaireiwn. To kwlyma ayto afora kyriws tis ryqmiseis peri ygioys antagwnismoy. Eseis poy epejergazeste to nomosxedio epibebaiwnete h diaceydete tis plhrofories;\nROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia epitroph h opoia epejergazetai epi pente mhnes to nomosxedio. Se ayth symmetexoyn ekproswpoi toy dikastikoy kladoy, toy Symboylioy ths Epikrateias, toy Ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs, toy Ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs kai toy Ypoyrgoy Epikrateias. Den protiqemai na dwsw plhrofories ews otoy etoimastei to nomosxedio.\nGKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes eixame mia parembash toy Proedroy toy SEB gia to qema toy basikoy metoxoy, opoy en oligois eipe oti aytos o nomos dhmioyrgei grafeiokratia kai empodizei thn epixeirhmatikothta, opws dhlwsan peripoy. Poios nomos; O nomos poy yparxei twra peri basikoy metoxoy kai me ola ayta ta pistopoihtika diafaneias poy qa prepei na egkrinei to ESR. Ayto parallhla dhmioyrgei problhmata sthn epixeirhmatikothta. H kybernhsh exei kati ep` aytoy;\nGKOYTZANHS: Kai to deytero kai to ESR exei na diekperaiwsei ena terastio ogko grafeiokratias, enw parallhla den exei enisxyqei oyte apo th dikh sas kybernhsh me thn aparaithth ypodomh.\nROYSOPOYLOS: Einai desmeysh mas na enisxyqoyn oi elegktikes arxes. Mesa se aytes symperilambanetai kai to ESR.\nKYRITSHS: Qelw na epanaferw mia erwthsh thn opoia eixa diatypwsei proxqes kai h opoia afora th syllogikh symbash ergasias twn texnikwn ths idiwtikhs thleorashs. (den akoygetai)@mia apanthsh apo ton k. Antwnaro kai ti protiqeste na kanete einai armodiothta dikh sas kai toy k. Panagiwtopoyloy, ean den kanw laqos.\nROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Giakoymatos xeirizetai to qema. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw ayrio.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Thursday, 14 October 2004 - 13:05:13 UTC


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url: =Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ?\nTi thelei enas andras ?\nNa echei lefta\nNa einai me diafora axesouar (stithos, pisino, analogies genika)\nNa kanei kalo Sex\nNa kanei kalo galaktompoureko\nNa sideronei, plenei,maghrevei 24h/day\nNa mhn kanei Sex\nNa ton mastigonei kai meta na tou leei poso kalh einai h megera h mana ths\nNa adiaforei kai meta na leei oti den noiazetai giayton.\nDen xero/eimai apo to allo anekdoto/varieme na apanthso.\nNa einai "tryferh" mazi tou otan vlepei Champions League\nΘέμα: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 5:42 am\nTi thelei arage to gourouni ayto pou legete andras?\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 8:38 am\nΑναλογίες για να τραβάω τα βλέμματα\nΚαι κατα προτίμηση να μην κάνει sex, έχουμε κιάλλες δουλειές.. Εκτός αν βρει άλλον για sex.\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 9:46 am\nGIA TO MASTIGOMA KANEIS DEN ENDIAFERETE...PAEI XALASE O KOSMOS\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 10:11 am\nna sas po ti pistevoun ta thilika oti theloun oi antres??\nto 2,3,4,5 kai to 10 !!!katalavate antres?an diafoneite peite mou.... pantos exete skeftei poses apaitiseis exete eseis apo tis ginaikes kai posa liga dinete?\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 12:51 pm\nΚάποτε ενδιαφερόμουν εγώ, αλλά πλέον έχω γίνει πολύ φαλλοκράτης και δεν\nπαίζει, προτιμώ σανίδα βρεγμένη, και να την κρατάω εγώ\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 5:24 pm\nallaxe to galaktompoureko se kantaifi kai exeis thn pshfo moy\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 5:38 pm\nβρε κορίτσια... δεν ζητάμε τίποτα περισσότερο από καλό sex και τις υπόλοιπες ώρες την ησυχία μας !\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Δεκ 12, 2007 5:52 pm\nfournoi gkremizontai kai oi domes tou sumpantos talanteyontai sto leptepilepto ufadi ts...\no ka8e an8rwpos 8elei kati diko tou.oi genikeuseis den eiani episthmonika apodektes giati den lambanoun upospsi ts thn atomikotha.\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Πεμ Δεκ 13, 2007 2:16 am\nMy Dear voodoochild\n" oi genikeuseis den eiani episthmonika apodektes giati den lambanoun upospsi ts thn atomikotha."\nKalh mou, den einai akrivos etsi kai exigo choris na mpo se technika themata.....\nKatarchin o andras apo psicho-viologikes ereynes psachnei na diadosei to sperma toy, to genetiko tou iliko dhladh, se oso pio poles ginekes mporei h esto se ikanes gia na tou diathrisoun to gonidiako tou iliko.\nAra statistika psachnei nees kopeles, me kalh somatikh kai psichikh ygeia me pedikomorfo prosopo pou tou dinoun kalhteres pithanotites na metaferthei to genetiko tou yliko ston xrono.\nOi gynekes apo thn allh meria psachnoun kapion na tous prosferei thn dynatothta na anathrepsoun ta paidia tous ochi giati ta agapan mono alla giati einai viologika periorismenes na kanoun liga. Etsi to genetiko tous hliko gia na metaferthei prepei to paidi na einai ikano na zhsei gia chronia mesa apo dyskolies.\nEtsi psachoun h kapion me somatika prosonta (vl. o klasikos psilos gerodemenos pou kathe vrady paei me 3-4 gynekes) h atoma me oikonomiko h koinoniko h pneymatiko symvoliko falo.\nGenikeyseis yparchoun kalh mou, apla diaforopoieitai h ekfrash ths opias anagkhs analoga thn koinonikh - oikonomikhs h an theleis pneymatikhs stathmhs tou andra h ths gynaikas.\nTora ego prosopika to post to ekana gia na ginei chavales ochi gia na kano dhmosieysh tou apotelesmatos sto Jama.\nEmpire strikes again. Ergatoulhs chtipa kato apo thn mesh ton Xondroulh.(vl.Apergioula 12/12/2007)\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Πεμ Δεκ 13, 2007 2:40 am\nh epixeirhmato logia mou 8a basistei se duo basika epixeirhmata ws pros ayth sou th 8esh:\n1)"oxi apla oxi"\n2)den antilegw oti ola ayta pou les einai logika kai peisthmonika apodekta toulaxiston sthn plh8wra tous.to zhthma omws einai pws ginesai monomerhs.GT:nai o antras koubala ta arxegona enstikta ths anaparagwghs kai mpla npla npla ala dne einai monoo ayto paomononeis ena polusun8eto on opws o an8rwpos kai sturizeis thn pra3h tou se mai kai monadiko 8ewria.pragma arketa la8emeno einai tosoi opli oi logoi poi o an8rwpos zeygarwnei akipote den 8a mporesoume na poume oti einai ono enas\noso gia th ginaika isxuei akti analogo.profanws ta parapanw pragamta den prpei na ta exw diatupwsei idaitera logika exei na kanei me to gegonos oti einai arga kai einai arwsth.ala den mpurazei h prospa8ia metraei\nkala profanws aplws to geek mesa mou panta antidra den to aknw epithdes\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Πεμ Δεκ 13, 2007 2:52 am\no geek den antidraei gia thn antidrash, aplws mia zwh perpataei sto apeiro monopati ths gnwshs tieipapaliopousths\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Πεμ Δεκ 13, 2007 4:01 am\nKalh mou voodoochild.\nDen diafono katholou oti einai mia theoria apo tis 11.000.235 pou mallon yparcoun(Vl.Kathe ellhnas echei mia theoria gia thn parth tou) h an thes tis 300000000000 ana ton planhth Gh.\nProsopika nomizo oti to zeygaroma h an thes o erotas einai mia a-logh diadikasia pou echei bathia sto asinidito tis rizes toy ara mallon kaneis den xerei giati kai pos apla tou thn dinei ena arseniko h ena thiliko.\nTora opos eipa prin gia plaka einai to olo thema kai apla mazepsa "klisedakia" pou akouo sychna kai ta erixa.\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Πεμ Δεκ 13, 2007 7:35 am\nmhn to synexisete giati se ligo kathe fora poy synoysiazomai tha exo typseis\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Φεβ 20, 2008 8:36 pm\nna ths alla3ei ta fwta 8elei ... apla ta pragmata\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Φεβ 20, 2008 10:04 pm\nΕγώ θέλω να μου αλλάξει τα φώτα. Είμαι και τεμπέλης.\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Φεβ 20, 2008 11:04 pm\npes ths na sou ftia3ei kai ta udraulika ama teleiwsei me ta fwta.Mhn talaipwreisai bre aderfe kai gi ayta!\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τετ Φεβ 20, 2008 11:26 pm\nΚαι να αλλάξει τα λάστιχα στο αυτοκίνητο. Καλή φάση.\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Παρ Φεβ 22, 2008 12:29 am\ngiati oxi na sou kanei kai ena geniko service! egw pantos den 8a thn afhna alla leme twra ...\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Παρ Φεβ 22, 2008 9:32 am\nna einai gynaika, filh, doula, na mhn gkriniazei, na mhn fwnzei, na mhn paraponietai, kai otan 8elei o adras na fernei k thn filh ths parea\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Παρ Φεβ 22, 2008 9:22 pm\npou eipame pws einai auth ^elf^ ? to oneiro mou ...\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Κυρ Φεβ 24, 2008 4:01 am\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Κυρ Φεβ 24, 2008 2:17 pm\nswstos o TheV ... e Poe?\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Κυρ Φεβ 24, 2008 3:02 pm\nontws swstos o TheV gt oi kaluteres gunekes einai ta mparmpounia.Pistes filikes kai apnw apo ola omorfes.Pote de se prodidoun kai an pinaseis "ginontai brasto na tis fas".(kata to "xali na tis pathseis" )\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Δευ Φεβ 25, 2008 8:23 pm\noxi to ama3i 8a elega egw ... giati opou 8eleis se paei xwris antirhsh, sou zitaei ta nomima alla ama tou kaneis kamia poustia ton ipies san kai tis gynekes!\nΘέμα: Απ: Ti thelei enas andras apo ena thiliko ? Τρι Φεβ 26, 2008 4:01 am\nAXAXAXAXAX voodoo eliwsa\nBasika kalutera xrusopsara!! ksexnane kai amesws opote den prokeitai pote na exoun gkrinia klp !!\nEutuxismenh zwh me mia suntrofo pou den thumatai pera apo ta teleutaia 5 secs


url: = Klimakwsh twn epixeirhsewn\n Nea tmhmata ths Egnatias odoy\nTeqwrakismena toy israhlinoy stratoy, yposthrizomena apo aeroporika mesa, eisebalan th nyxta ths Deyteras pros thn Trith se treis synoikies ths Gazas, opws anefere dhmosiografos toy Gallikoy Praktoreioy epikaloymenos martyries apo thn perioxh.\nSymfwna me tis phges aytes ta armata proxwrhsan baqia mesa stis synoikies Tal al-Xaoya, seix Azlin kai Zeitoyn, sthn perifereia ths polhs. Palaistinioi maxhtes apanthsan stoys bombardismoys ektojeyontas olmoys alla mexri stigmhs den yparxoyn plhrofories gia qymata.\nOi martyres aneferan oti oi israhlines monades dieisdysan ligo meta ta mesanyxta sth synoikia Tal Al-Xaoya, sta notia ths polhs, kai dexthkan pyra apo enoploys poy toys eixan sthsei enedra protoy ftasoyn sto shmeio, gia na tis yposthrijoyn, armata kai aeroporika mesa.\nEkproswpos toy israhlinoy stratoy epibebaiwse oti eginan maxes se polles synoikies ths polhs, xwris na dwsei perissoteres dieykriniseis.\nThn Deytera ta israhlina armata proxwrhsan arketes ekatontades metra stis perioxes seix Azlin, Toyfa kai Zeitoyn, synantwntas wstoso antistash apo toys Palaistinioys maxhtes. Taytoxrona, pragmatopoihqhkan aeroporikes epiqeseis sto kentro ths polhs. Sfodres maxes diejhxqhsan epishs stis koinothtes Mpeit Laxia kai Tzampaligia, sta boreia ths polhs ths Gazas.\nMartyres aneferan ejalloy oti stratiwtikes monades eisebalan sto xwrio Xoyzaa, konta sta synora me to Israhl, alla ypoxrewqhkan na anadiplwqoyn giati dexthkan pyra. To xwrio sth synexeia egine stoxos twn pyrwn twn teqwrakismenwn.\nSto metajy, h Xamas etoimazetai na aporricei tis protaseis ths Aigyptoy gia ton termatismo ths stratiwtikhs epixeirhshs toy Israhl sth Lwrida ths Gazas, apokalycan xqes libanezikes politikes phges, proskeimenes sthn islamistikh organwsh.\nOi idies phges tonisan pws oi diapragmateytes ths Xamas, epistrefontas sto Kairo xqes, epeita apo tis diaboyleyseis toys sth Damasko me thn hgesia ths organwshs, qb anakoinwsoyn thn arnhtikh apanthsh ths kata tis synomilies poy qa exoyn shmera me ton aigyptio epikefalhs twn mystikwn yphresiwn Omar Soyleiman.\nEgkyrh phgh dhlwnei pws h Xamas antitiqetai se tria basika shmeia ths protashs, poy exoyn epejergasqei h Aigyptos kai dieqneis diplwmates: ``h Xamas aporriptei thn makroxronh ekexeiria-oi Aigyptioi miloyn gia 15 xronia-antitiqetai se kaqe katapaysh toy pyros poy den synodeyetai apo amesh apoxwrhsh twn israhlinwn strateymatwn apo tis nees qeseis poy katelaban sth Gaza, kaqws kai sthn paroysia dieqnwn parathrhtwn sto meqoriako perasma ths Rafa''.\nH idia phgh tonise pws h Xamas epiqymei h opoia ekexeiria na einai braxyproqesmh kai gia mia sygkekrimenh periodo, enw ta israhlina strateymata qa prepei na apoxwrhsoyn thn idia stigmh poy qa arxisei na efarmozetai h katapaysh toy pyros.\nH organwsh apenantias einai diaqesimh na syzhthsei ton mhxanismo gia to anoigma twn synorwn me thn Aigypto sth Rafa, alla den einai proqymh na dexqei paroysia dieqnwn parathrhtwn sto shmeio.\nTa qymata apo tis israhlines epiqeseis sth Gaza, oi opoies synexizontai gia 17h hmera, jeperasan pleon ta 900, anakoinwse o epikefalhs twn yphresiwn antimetwpishs peristatikwn ektakths anagkhs sth Lwrida ths Gazas. Symfwna me ton giatro Moyaoyigia Xasanein, oi nekroi eftasan toys 905, metajy twn opoiwn 277 paidia, 95 gynaikes kai 92 hlikiwmenoi, oi de traymaties eftasan toys 3.950.\nPyra apo to iordaniko edafos dexthke israhlinh peripolos\nIsrahlinh peripolos dexqhke shmera to prwi pyra apo to iordaniko edafos konta se shmeio dieleyshs sto notio Israhl xwris na yparxoyn qymata, anakoinwse ekproswpos toy stratoy. Wstoso, h Iordania arneitai to gegonos.\n"Mia peripolos synoriakwn froyrwn konta sto shmeio dieleyshs Gitzak Rampin dexthke pyra agnwstwn apo thn Iordania kai apanthse anoigontas pyr pros thn kateyqynsh toys. Den einai safes poioi htan oi enoploi", dhlwse h ekproswpos.\nTo peristatiko poy elabe xwra 18 hmeres meta thn enarjh ths israhlinhs polemikhs epixeirhshs sth Gaza, einai idiaitera spanio metajy twn dyo xwrwn poy ypegracan eirhneytikh symfwnia to 1994.\nH Iordania apo thn pleyra ths anaferei oti den gnwrizei tipote gia to peristatiko.\n"Den gnwrizoyme oti israhlinh peripolos dexqhke shmera to prwi pyra apo to iordaniko edafos", dhlwse iordanikh phgh poy den katonomazetai , prosqetontas oti "merikes fores kynhgoi pyroboloyn sthn perioxh ayth, xwris ayto na synista stratiwtiko symban".\nTetoia peristatika einai ejairetika spania metajy twn dyo xwrwn poy exoyn ypogracei eirhneytikh symfwnia to 1994.\nEnteinontai oi dieqneis pieseis gia ekexeiria\nTo SA toy OHE qa synedriasei ek neoy shmera gia na ejetasei allh mia fora thn katastash sth Gaza, anakoinwsan xqes diplwmatikes phges. Periodeia sthn perioxh ths Meshs Anatolhs jekina apo ayrio o genikos grammateas toy OHE\nDytikh diplwmatikh phgh epibebaiwse th diejagwgh ths synedriashs, h opoia qa einai h prwth afotoy to SA yioqethse thn apofash 1860 gia mia amesh kai biwsimh katapaysh toy pyros sth Lwrida ths Gazas, h opoia-fey-ews shmera den exei efarmosqei sthn prajh.\nTo geniko plaisio mias symfwnias katapayshs toy pyros sth Lwrida ths Gazas exei prosdioristei kai oi trexoyses prospaqeies exoyn stoxo th dieyqethsh twn leptomereiwn ayths ths symfwnias, dhlwse pros toys dhmosiografoys sto Kairo o apestalmenos toy Koyartetoy gia th Mesh Anatolh Toni Mpler.\nO prwhn prwqypoyrgos ths Bretanias proseqese epeita apo synomilia toy me ton Aigyptio proedro Xosni Moymparak oti oi syzhthseis briskontai se "eyaisqhth fash" kai aforoyn th zhthma toy agwna kata twn laqremporikwn drasthriothtwn anamesa sth Gaza kai thn Aigypto, kaqws kai ayto toy anoigmatos twn shmeiwn dieleyshs pros to palaistiniako edafos.\nO apestalmenos toy Koyartetoy (OHE, HPA, EE kai Rwsia) dhlwse pws elpizei oti mia katapaysh toy pyros qa symfwnhqei mesa stis prosexeis hmeres.\nTh Deytera mia antiproswpeia ths Xamas, h opoia elegxei th Lwrida ths Gazas, synanthqhke gia deyterh diadoxikh hmera me ton arxhgo twn aigyptiakwn yphresiwn plhroforiwn Omar Soyleiman, gia na syzhthsoyn to eirhneytiko sxedio poy ekponhqhke apo thn Aigypto.\nAjiwmatoyxos ths Xamas dhlwse pws to islamistiko kinhma aporriptei orismenes pleyres ayths ths prwtoboylias, h opoia kalei se mia ekexeiria poy qa epitrecei thn eisodo ths anqrwpistikhs bohqeias sth Lwrida ths Gazas, sth diejagwgh israhlino-palaistiniakwn diapragmateysewn kai sthn epanalhch twn diapalaistiniakwn synomiliwn.\nApo thn pleyra toy, o israhlinos strathgos en apostrateia Amos Gkilant, kyrios symboylos toy ypoyrgoy Amynas Exoynt Mparak, anebale thn episkech poy eprokeito na pragmatopoihsei shmera sto Kairo, opoy qa eixe synanthsh me ton arxhgo twn aigyptiakwn yphresiwn plhroforiwn 'Omar Soyleiman, o opoios einai epifortismenos me tis eyaisqhtes diapragmateyseis.\nSymfwna me to israhlino radiofwno, h anabolh ths episkechs Gkilant apofasisthke apo thn israhlinh hgesia gia na ayjhqei h stratiwtikh piesh sth Xamas, thn wra poy o stratos anakoinwne oti eplhje sobara thn enoplh pteryga ths islamikhs organwshs.\nSymfwna panta me to radiofwno, aitia gia thn anabolh einai h synexizomenh diafwnia metajy ths Aigyptoy kai ths Xamas gia toys oroys ths ekexeirias.\nEktaktes synomilies gia thn antimetwpish ths "synexishs ths israhlinhs epiqetikothtas sthn Gaza" qa pragmatopoihsoyn oi ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn twn arabikwn xwrwn thn Paraskeyh sto Koybeit.\nSymfwna me ton Geniko Grammatea toy Arabikoy Syndesmoy Amr Moysa, ta arabika krath symfwnhsan na synanthqoyn me prwtoboylia toy Katar, afoy to Israhl den symmorfwqhke me thn qesh toy OHE gia amesh katapaysh toy pyros sthn Gaza.\nDiplwmatikes phges pantws kanoyn logo gia to endexomeno na pragmatopoihqei akomh kai ektakth synodos toy Arabikoy Syndesmoy kata thn diarkeia ths Arabikhs oikonomikhs synodoy stis 19 Ianoyarioy sto Koybeit.\nThn Pempth, oi ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn twn arabikwn kratwn qa pragmatopoihsoyn prokatarktikes synomilies.\nO amerikanos proedros Tzortz Mpoys dhlwse oti tassetai yper mias "diarkoys katapayshs toy pyros" sth Gaza, shmeiwnontas wstoso oti thn eyqynh gi' aythn ferei h Xamas.\n"Tassomai yper mias diarkoys katapayshs toy pyros kai diarkhs katapaysh toy pyros shmainei na stamathsei h Xamas na rixnei royketes sto Israhl", dhlwse se synenteyjh Typoy poy paraxwrhse.\n"Den qa yparjei mia diarkhs katapaysh toy pyros an synexisoyn na rixnoyn royketes. Pisteyw oti h Xamas prepei na kanei aythn thn epilogh", prosqese.\nTo Israhl exei to dikaiwma sthn aytoamyna, alla qa prepei na merimna gia toys "aqwoys anqrwpoys" sth Gaza, shmeiwse epishs.\nH tsexikh proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs sxediazei thn organwsh mias diaskechs dwrhtwn gia na antapokriqei stis anqrwpistikes anagkes toy plhqysmoy ths Gazas, anakoinwqhke shmera apo to tsexiko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, xwris pantws na dieykrinizetai poy kai pote qa ginei h diaskech ayth.\n"O tsexos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, Karel Sbartsenmpergk einai etoimos na sygkalesei mia dieqnh diaskech dwrhtwn gia thn epeigoysa anqrwpistikh katastash toy plhqysmoy ths Gazas", anaferetai se anakoinwsh poy dhmosiopoihqhke shmera to apogeyma sthn Praga.\n"H tsexikh proedria einai etoimh na analabei aythn thn apostolh to syntomotero dynaton", katalhgei h anakoinwsh.\nEna akomh tmhma ths Egnatias odoy apo Iwannina pros Metsobo, doqhke to meshmeri sthn kykloforia apo ton ypoyrgo PEXWDE Giwrgo Soyflia. Prokeitai gia to mhkoys 9 xiliometrwn tmhma apo ton anisopedo kombo Araxqoy mexri ton anisopedo kombo Xrysobitsas (Peristerioy), ena apo ta pio dyskola kommatia ths Egnatias odoy poy kataskeyasame sthn perioxh twn Iwanninwn kai me to opoio antikaqistantai 15 xlm ths palaias eqnikhs odoy Iwanninwn-Trikalwn, sthn opoia edw kai polla xronia talaipwroyntai oi odhgoi poy kinoyntai sthn perioxh logw toy mikroy platoys toy odostrwmatos kai twn pollwn strofwn ths xarajhs.\nOpws dhlwse o k. Soyflias, an to epitrecoyn oi kairikes synqhkes, mexri to telos toy Febroyarioy qa doqei sthn kykloforia kai h gefyra toy Araxqoy, opote synolika qa meiwqei o xronos tajidioy apo ta Giannina mexri to Metsobo, kata 40 lepta ths wras.\nTo tmhma toy aytokinhtodromoy poy doqhke shmera sthn kykloforia, ektelesthke me dyo symbaseis. H prwth, poy aforoyse thn oloklhrwsh ths shraggas T8, ypografhke ton Ioylio toy 2004 kai h deyterh, poy aforoyse to tmhma apo thn ejodo ths shraggas T8 mexri ton A/K Xrysobitsas-Peristerioy, ypografhke ton Ioylio toy 2006.\nH perioxh apo thn ejodo ths shraggas T8 mexri ton A/K Xrysobitsas/Peristerioy paroysiazei entona gewtexnika problhmata poy xreiazontan eidika metra staqeropoihshs twn edafwn. H oristikh meleth toy ergoy anateqhke thn anoijh toy 2005 kai oloklhrwqhke meta apo ena xrono, thn anoijh toy 2006, opote kai dhmoprathqhke to ergo.\nTo tmhma poy paradoqhke perilambanei dyo gefyres synolikoy mhkoys 650 metrwn diploy kladoy kai dyo shragges, mia mikrh mhkoys 300 metrwn kai mia megalh mhkoys peripoy 2.400 metrwn kai diasxizei mia perioxh astaqoys katolisqhshs, h antimetwpish ths opoias htan texnika poly dyskolo problhma. Gia thn ejasfalish toy dromoy apo piqanes katolisqhseis exoyn dianoixqei sthn perioxh tesseris apostraggistikes stoes synolikoy mhkoys peripoy 1.700 metrwn kai eswterikhs diametroy 4 metrwn kai enas megalos ariqmos straggistikwn freatwn. Mesa apo tis stoes exei ektelestei megalos ariqmos aktinwtwn apostraggistikwn gewtrhsewn me stoxo thn apomakrynsh twn ypogeiwn ydatwn gia th staqeropoihsh ths perioxhs.\nana2html v2.01 run on Tuesday, 13 January 2009 - 15:30:20 UTC


url: =Cyprus News Agency: News in Greek (AM), 99-02-07\n Kasoylidhs - Tzem\n Basileioy - EE - Kypros - Enarmonish\n Ypoyrgos Amynas - Anaxwrhsh - Aqhna\n Miler - Kypriako\n Ypoyrgos Amynas - Afijh - Aqhna\n Xristofidhs - Synodos sto Toronto\n Kasoylidhs - Kypriako - Bretanikes askhseis\n (K) Kasoylidhs - Tzem\nTh qesh oti o monos tropos gia na lyqei to Kypriako pros ofelos toy synoloy toy kypriakoy laoy, einai sto plaisia twn chfismatwn toy OHE, ejefrase o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Iwannhs Kasoylidhs.\nO YPEJ apantoyse se dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy YPEJ Ismail Tzem, o opoios isxyristhke oti h monh lysh sto trapezi einai ayth ths synomospondias.\nEkfrazontas lyph gia thn arnhsh ths Toyrkias na symbadisei me ta chfismata twn HE, o k. Kasoylidhs tonise oti einai kairos na stamathsoyn oi ypekfyges kai na arxisoyn diapragmateyseis gia lysh mesa stis parametroys twn chfismatwn.\nO Tzem eixe dhlwsei proklhtika, kata th xqesinh paranomh episkech toy sta katexomena, oti h synomospondiakh lysh einai h monh poy brisketai sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn.\nIsxyristhke ejalloy, oti ayto einai emfanes stis synomilies me tis HPA, th Germania kai thn EE.\n (K) Basileioy - EE - Kypros - Enarmonish\nPrepei na epitaxynqoyn oi ryqmoi, wste h Kypros na enarmonistei me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai na etoimastei gia entajh, tonise o epikefalhs ths diapragmateytikhs omadas ths Kyproy stis entajiakes synomilies, Giwrgos Basileioy.\nEpistrefontas apo tis Bryjelles o k. Basileioy eipe epishs oti to symperasma toy apo tis epafes toy me ajiwmatoyxoys ths EE einai oti exoyn sklhrynei oi oroi kai oti oi Eyrwpaioi den einai etoimoi na kleinoyn ta matia toys akomh kai se mikropragmata.\n (K) Ypoyrgos Amynas - Anaxwrhsh - Aqhna\nAnaxwrhse shmera gia thn Aqhna opoy qa exei synomilies me ton Ellhna omologo toy, Akh Tsoxatzopoylo, o Ypoyrgos Amynas, Giannakhs Xrysostomhs.\nSe dhlwseis toy sto aerodromio Larnakas ligo prin thn anaxwrhsh toy, o k. Xrysostomhs xarakthrise thn episkech toy sthn Aqhna ws episkech gnwrimias kai ergasias kai shmeiwse oti kata thn ekei paramonh toy qa syzhthsei me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo to qema twn rwsikwn pyraylwn S300, ths amyntikhs qwrakishs kai toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Dogmatos.\n"Anamenoyme oti qa epikrathsei pneyma synergasias kai mesa se mia atmosfaira filikh qa prospaqhsoyme na katalhjoyme se swstes kai ikanopoihtikes dieyqethseis kai gia ta dyo krath", eipe o k. Xrysostomhs.\nKlhqeis ejalloy na sxoliasei tis xqesines dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, Ismail Tzem, kata thn paranomh episkech toy sto katexomeno tmhma ths Kyproy, o YPAM apanthse oti "h kybernhtikh politikh einai gnwsth. Eimaste sigoyra yper ths eirhnikhs epilyshs toy Kypriakoy.\nAlla parallhla mexri na ftasei h wra poy h Toyrkia qa apodexqei na synomilhsei kai na prospaqhsei sobara kai ayth na epilyqei to Kypriako mesa apo ta chfismata toy OHE kai tis symfwnies ychloy epipedoy, emeis exoyme kaqhkon na enisxyoyme thn amyna mas kai na diasfalisoyme thn epibiwsh toy ellhnikoy kypriakoy laoy", tonise.\n (K) Miler - Kypriako\nToronto,Kanadas,07/02/1999 (KYPE - Menelaos Xatzhkwsths)\nO Eidikos Syntonisths toy Steit Ntipartment gia to Kypriako, Tomas Miler, arnhqhke kathgorhmatika tis fhmes poy feroyn tis HPA na prowqoyn mia synomospondiakh lysh toy Kypriakoy kai oti askoyntai isxyres pieseis sthn kypriakh kybernhsh gia na apodexqei mia tetoia lysh.\n"Ta arnoymai ola. Einai apolytws analhqh", dhlwse o k. Miler sto KYPE, tonizontas oti "oi HPA den yposthrizoyn mia synomospondiakh lysh. Yposthrizoyn mia omospondiakh lysh, mia kyriaria".\n"Diabazw ton Typo", prosqese, "kai ola osa legontai einai analhqh. Den prokeitai na eimai typika diplwmatika anakribhs. Einai apolytws analhqh", epanelabe.\nAmfibolies oson afora thn eilikrinia twn HPA sto sygkekrimeno qema ejefrase omws sto KYPE o kaqhghths Ban Koyfoydakhs, Prytanhs Texnwn kai Episthmwn sto Panepisthmio ths Intiana.\nO Miler proebh stis dhlwseis aytes meta thn omilia toy se dihmero Synedrio me qema "Diamaxes sthn Anatolikh Mesogeio: Qemata Asfaleias kai Staqerothtas sthn perioxh", poy pragmatopoihtai ston Kanada ayto to Sabbatokyriako.\nH Synodos organwqhke apo thn Ellhnokanadikh Omospondia toy Ontario kai epixorhghqhke apo to Ellhnokanadiko Kogkreso toy Kanada, to Kanadiko Institoyto Dieqnwn Sxesewn, thn Ellhnikh Koinothta toy Mhtropolitikoy Toronto, thn Kypriakh Koinothta toy Toronto kai th Dieqnh Syntonistikh Epitroph Agwna gia thn Kypro PSEKA Kanada.\nO Miler tonise ejalloy sto KYPE oti toso o idios oso kai o Proedrikos Apestalmenos twn HPA gia to Kypriako, Ritsiarnt Xolmproyk, "den eixame anastoles sto na dhlwsoyme kathgorhmatika kai anamfisbhthta oti to problhma twra stis diapragmateyseis mas, sthn empeiria mas, einai me thn toyrkikh pleyra".\nAnaferomenos sthn akyrwsh ths eleyshs toy antipyraylikoy systhmatos S300, o k. Miler eipe oti oi antirrhseis twn HPA gia thn egkatastash twn pyraylwn den eixan na kanoyn oyte me to kyriarxo dikaiwma ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias oson afora thn amyna ths, oyte me to gegonos oti oi pyrayloi einai rwsikoi.\nAyto poy apasxoloyse tis HPA, eipe, "htan oti ayto htan lanqasmenoy eidoys systhma kai qa htan 'galliko kleidi' stis diapragmateyseis. O Proedros Klhridhs phre mia qarallea apofash", eipe.\nParolo poy den htan se qesh na yposxeqei epiteyjh lyshs sto Kypriako ayto to xrono, o Miler yposxeqhke oti qa ginoyn "oi kalyteres kai entonoteres prospaqeies", gia epilysh toy problhmatos.\nAnaforika me tis pwlhseis amerikanikwn oplikwn systhmatwn sthn Toyrkia, o Miler eipe oti o tropos epilyshs toy Kypriakoy den einai me thn ejapelysh "wmwn apeilwn", pros th mia h thn allhn pleyra, alla ola katalhgoyn sto na "ejeyreqei ena logiko paketo poy qa antapokrinetai sta basika, symferonta kai anhsyxies twn dyo pleyrwn".\nTonise epishs, oti h empisteytikothta kata th diarkeia twn diapragmateysewn einai epitaktikh wste na doqei stis dyo pleyres "h elastikothta gia na skefqoyn ta pragmata, poy politika mporei na einai poly, poly dyskola, alla ws meros toy paketoy qa htan poly elkystika".\nOpws eipe, "ayth h kybernhsh (amerikanikh) einai arketa desmeymenh sto na prajei o,ti mporei gia na bohqhsei sthn epiteyjh lyshs sto problhma, poy exei arghsei kata 25 xronia gia na epilyqei".\n (K) Ypoyrgos Amynas - Afijh - Aqhna\nAqhna,Ellada,07/02/1999 (KYPE - ths apestalmenhs mas Myrias Antwniadoy)\nThn pepoiqhsh oti oi synomilies toy me ton Ellhna omologo toy, Akh Tsoxatzopoylo, qa exoyn aisio peras ejefrase o Ypoyrgos Amynas, Giannakhs Xrysostomhs, kata thn afijh toy shmera sto Aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy.\nApantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh o k. Xrysostomhs anefere epishs oti exei kat'arxhn programmatisqei synanthsh me th rwsikh kybernhsh gia to qema toy antipyraylikoy systhmatos S300, to opoio qa apasxolhsei tis synomilies sthn Aqhna.\nO YPAM xarakthrise thn prwth episkech toy sthn Aqhna ypo th nea toy idiothta ws "tajidi gnwrimias kai ergasias" shmeiwnontas xrakthristika, "exoyme polla qemata na kalycoyme me ton Ypoyrgo (Tsoxatzopoylo) kai anamenw oti qa katalhjoyme se aisio peras".\nO k. Xrysostomhs apefyge na apanthsei se alles erwthseis parapempontas se synenteyjh Typoy poy qa paraxwrhsoyn ayrio apo koinoy me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo, meta to peras twn synomiliwn toys.\nTo meshmeri kai apoce o k. Xrysostomhs qa parakaqhsei se geyma kai deipno poy paraqetei pros timhn toy toy Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas ths Elladas.\nAyrio to prwi, o k. Xrysostomhs qa kataqesei stefani sto mnhmeio toy Agnwstoy Stratiwth kai sth synexeia qa exei 45lepth kat'idian synanthsh me ton Ellhna omologo toy sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.\nQa akoloyqhsoyn synomilies metajy twn dyo antiproswpeiwn oi opoies einai programmatismenes na krathsoyn 90 peripoy lepta.\nThn kypriakh antiproswpeia poy einai oktamelhs apartizoyn metajy allwn o GG Dieyqynths toy YPAM, Gewrgios Xatzhanastasioy, Arxhgos ths Eqnikhs Froyras Antistrathgos, Dhmhtrios Dhmoy, o Anwteros Logisths toy YPAM Kwnstantinos Karmios kai o Dikhgoros ths Dhmokratias sth Nomikh Yphresia Giannakhs Lazaroy.\nH ellhnikh antiproswpeia apartizetai apo 17 atoma metajy twn opoiwn o YFEQAM, Dhmhtrios Apostolakhs kai o Pterarxos Aqanasios Tzoganhs Arxhgos toy GEEQA.\nAkoloyqws qa doqei synenteyjh Typoy kai qa akoloyqhsei geyma ergasias poy qa paraqesei o Ellhnas Ypoyrgos.\nTo brady o k. Xrysostomhs qa parakaqhsei se epishmo deipno poy paraqetei pros timhn toy o Ellhnas omologos toy.\n (K) Xristofidhs - Synodos sto Toronto\nH toyrkikh adiallajia sto Kypriako den qa termatistei ektos kai ean h dieqnhs koinothta kai idiaitera oi kybernhseis poy diathroyn stenoys desmoys me thn Toyrkia, paramerisoyn alla symferonta kai peisoyn thn Agkyra na symbadisei me to Dieqnes Dikaio, dhlwse o Proedrikos Epitropos gia qemata apodhmwn, Manwlhs Xristofidhs.\n"Den arkei na diakhryssoyme thn areth twn nomwn ths dikaiosynhs kai ths dhmokratias kai na kleinoyme ta matia sthn perifronhsh poy epedhjan pros tis arxes aytes diadoxikes toyrkikes kybernhseis apo fobo mhn prosbaloyme ena strathgikhs shmasias symmaxo h me thn elpida oti qa kerdisoyme epikerdh symbolaia gia opla", tonise o k. Xristofidhs.\nMilwntas se dihmerh Diaskech poy prgmatopoieitai sto Toronto toy Kanada me qema "Diamaxes sthn Anatolikh Mesogeio: Qemata Asfaleias kai Staqerothtas sthn perioxh", kai diorganwnei h Ellhnokanadikh Omospondia toy Ontario, o k. Xristofidhs tonise oti lysh sto Kypriako mporei na ejeyreqei mesw dialogoy.\nEpeshmane omws oti dekaeties akarpwn diapragmateysewn "exoyn ekqesei kai diabrwsei thn olh idea toy dialogoy, xleyazontas th dieqnh koinothta".\n"Den mporei na epitrapei sthn Toyrkia na katapata atimwrhth ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata sthn Kypro kai na meiwnei pagkosmies idees kai ajies, kleinontas ta matia stis dieqneis diakhryjeis kai stoys Xartes twn Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn".\nTo Kypriako prepei na apasxolei oloklhrh thn perioxh, giati yparxoyn "jekaqara stoixeia" oti h Toyrkia ekmonternizei oloys toys tomeis twn enoplwn dynamewn ths me grhgoroys ryqmoys, oxi gia na diathrhsei kapoia isorropia dynamewn, alla gia na epibalei thn stratiwtikh ths yperoxh se piqanoys antipaloys, shmeiwse.\nAnaferomenos ejalloy sthn prosfath apofash toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, Glaykoy Klhridh, gia mh egkatastash toy antipyraylikoy systhmatos S300 sthn Kypro, o k. Xristofidhs epeshmane oti apotelei "apolyth apodeijh ths apofasistikothtas ths kypriakhs kybernhshs gia eirhnh".\n"Prosdokoyme se mia lysh toy Kypriakoy, poy qa prowqhsei kai qa prostateysei ta symferonta oloklhroy toy kypriakoy plhqysmoy", tonise o k. Xristofidhs prosqetontas oti "tetoia lysh, parolo poy einai eykolo na epiteyxqei, kaqysterei dioti kapoioi caxnoyn gia lysh apo thn opoia qa epwfelhqei h Toyrkia, oxi o laos ths Kyproy".\nEpeshmane ejalloy, oti mia omospondiakh lysh sto Kypriako eggyatai thn eyhmeria kai asfaleia toy kypriakoy laoy.\n"Aytoi poy diakhryssoyn oti oi Ellhnokyprioi kai oi Toyrkokyprioi den mporoyn na zhsoyn mazi, den epiqymoyn to kalo ths Kyproy", tonise.\nMilwntas epishs sth Diaskech, o kaqhghths Ban Koyfoydakhs, kaqhghths sto panepisthmio ths Intiana, tonise oti h amerikanikh yposthrijh pros thn Toyrkia, enqarrynei thn epiqetikothta ths Toyrkias kata twn geitonwn ths symperilambanomenhs ths Elladas, ths Kyproy kai ths Syrias.\n"H amerikanikh politikh sthn perioxh exei apotyxei kai qa synexisei na apotygxanei ean synexisei na ekbiazei to qyma kai na antameibei to qyth", proeidopoihse.\nAnaforika me thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias o kaqhghths Koyfoydakhs ypogrammise oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh den qa prepei na agnoei tis idies ths ths arxes wste na epitrapei sthn Toyrkia na entaxqei.\nEjalloy anaferomenos sthn toyrko - israhlinh stratiwtikh symfwnia, o k. Koyfoydakhs thn xarakthrise "gamo symferontos" kai yposthrije oti den qa prajei apolytws tipota gia thn prowqhsh ths eirhnhs kai twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn sthn perioxh.\nH symfwnia ayth, prosqese, "einai (gia thn Toyrkia) ena oneiro poy ginetai pragmatikothta" dioti oxi mono kerdizei mia phgh ychlhs texnologias kai stratiwtikoy ylikoy, alla epishs thn yposthrijh enos isxyroy ebraikoy lompi sthn Oyasingkton to opoio mporei na endynamwsei thn epirroh ths Toyrkias sthn amerikanikh prwteyoysa.\nO k. Koyfoydakhs shmeiwse wstoso oti h epanaproseggish metajy Iran kai HPA qa ephreasei tis sxeseis metajy HPA kai Toyrkias.\nEjalloy, o Genikos Dieyqynths toy Ellhnikoy Grafeioy Typoy kai Plhroforiwn, Nikos Aqanasakhs eipe oti oson afora tis prospaqeies gia lysh toy Kypriakoy "h mpala einai sto ghpedo ths Toyrkias" kai tonise oti to Kypriako prepei na antimetwpistei ws jexwristo qema apo ayto twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn.\n"To Kypriako einai ena dieqnes problhma eisbolhs kai katoxhs", eipe o Aqanasakhs tonizontas oti h entajh ths Kyproy sthn EE qa apotelesei ena meso wste oi dyo koinothes sto nhsi na zhsoyn me eirhnh kai eyhmeria.\nAnaferomenos stis toyrkikes apaithseis sto Aigaio, o k. Aqanasakhs kalese thn Toyrkia na dieyqethsei to qema symfwna me to dieqnes dikaio enwpion toy Dieqnoys Dikathrioy, shmeiwnontas oti etsi "qa dieykolynei sth beltiwsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn".\nTelos epeshmane oti h Ellada den krata thn Toyrkia ektos Eyrwphs kai prosqese oti aytoi poy epiqymoyn na entaxqoyn sthn EE prepei taytoxrona na apodexontai kai na emmenoyn se kapoies arxes.\n (K) Kasoylidhs - Kypriako - Bretanikes askhseis\nH lysh poy qa ejeyreqei den qa einai kommenh kai rammenh sta metra ta dika mas oyte sta metra ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras, dhlwse shmera o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Iwannhs Kasoylidhs, milwntas sthn Pafo kata to eqniko mnhmosyno toy hrwa ths EOKA 55 - 59 Gewrgioy Papaberkioy.\nSthn omilia toy, kata to mnhmosyno, o k. Kasoylidhs anaferqhke stis prospaqeies epilyshs toy kypriakoy problhmatos kai eipe oti me thn swfrona politikh ths kypriakhs kybernhshs prosblepoyme se kalyteres meres.\nGia thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy sthn EE, o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn eipe oti ayto qa epiteyxqei me th stenh synergasia kypriakhs kai ellhnikhs kybernhshs.\nSth synexeia, o k. Kasoylidhs milwntas stoys dhmosiografoys eipe oti h kalyterh apanthsh stis dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy YPEJ Ismail Tzem einai h epimonh stis qeseis mas, tis opoies exoyn yioqethsei ta Hnwmena Eqnh. Dhladh thn efarmogh twn chfismatwn twn HE.\nH lysh, eipe, poy qa ejeyreqei den qa einai kommenh kai rammenh oyte sta metra ta dika mas oyte sta metra ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras.\nSe erwthsh kata poson exoyn doqei lanqasmena mhnymata sto ejwteriko se oti afora thn synomospondia, o k. Kasoylidhs eipe oti yparxei eyqynh se oti afora th diastash kai th shmasia poy dinoyme emeis oi idioi sto qema kai to metatrepoyme se meizon qema.\nTo gegonos oti oi Toyrkoi synexws syzhtoyn to qema ths synomospondias ofeiletai sthn piesh poy dexontai apo ta idia ta chfismata toy OHE, eipe.\nKai sthn periptwsh twn jenwn, oi opoioi zhtoyn tis apoceis mas gia th synomospondia ayto to kanoyn gia enhmerwsh afoy den gnwrizoyn th shmasia kai thn oysia tetoias lyshs, eipe o YPEJ kai prosqese oti einai laqos emeis na dinoyme shmasia kai na to anagoyme se meizon qema.\nGia thn episkech toy Ypoyrgoy Amynas Giannakh Xrysostomh sthn Aqhna, o k. Kasoylidhs anefere oti h teleytaia synanthsh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, Glaykoy Klhridh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Elladas, Kwsta Shmith, kaqorise ta plaisia sta opoia qa kinhqoyn kai qa oristikopoihqoyn oi apofaseis poy qa lhfqoyn metajy twn Ypoyrgwn Amynas Kyproy - Elladas.\nAnaforika me to antipyrayliko systhma S300, o k. Kasoylidhs eipe oti dinetai perissoterh trofh kai pisth se abasimes plhrofories se oti afora sthn periptwsh mh egkatastashs twn pyraylwn sthn Krhth.\nMegalopoioyme ayth thn piqanothta mh egkatastashs sthn Krhth kai einai arketa epikindyno, anefere.\nSe allh erwthsh anaforika me thn polyeqnikh dynamh kai tis dhlwseis toy stoys jenoys dhmosiografoys, o k. Kasoylidhs eipe oti akomh den yphrje proodos sto Kypriako se oti afora sthn apoxwrhsh twn toyrkikwn strateymatwn kai einai nwris na miloyme gia thn morfh poy qa parei h polyeqnikh dynamh, ean ayto apofasistei telika.\nKata poson o idios sto ejwteriko einai arketa omilhtikos me apotelesma na yparxoyn antidraseis sto eswteriko metwpo, o k. Kasoylidhs eipe oti einai ypoxrewsh toy na enhmerwnei toys jenoys gia to problhma ths Kyproy kai eidikotera na kalei toys dhmosiografoys kai na toys enhmerwnei swsta gia oles tis ptyxes toy Kypriakoy.\nO YPEJ sxoliazontas tis prosfates dhmoskophseis gia th dhmotikothta ths kybernhshs eipe ejalloy oti ta xamhla pososta ofeilontai sta teleytaia skandala poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas, ekfrazontas parallhla thn aisiodojia me th synolikh ajiologhsh toy ergoy ths kybernhshs h dhmotikothta ths qa anebei.\nSe oti afora sto qema anasxhmatismoy, o k. Kasoylidhs arnhqhke na probei se dhlwseis legontas oti den ton afora to qema.\nTelos, anaforika me to qema twn bretanikwn stratiwtikwn askhsewn ston Akama kai sygkekrimena gia tis programmatismenes askhseis twn Bretanwn stis 9 me 11 Febroyarioy 1999, o k. Kasoylidhs anefere oti eyelpistei sobara pws qa akyrwqoyn afoy ayrio Deytera jekinoyn diapragmateyseis gia ypallaktiko xwro.\nkypegr2html v2.00 run on Sunday, 7 February 1999 - 13:02:26 UTC


url: = Seismikes donhseis anastatwsan ta jhmerwmata thn Krhth\n Me apergies thn periodo twn Xristoygennwn apeiloyn ta syndikata thn Amazon\n Symfwnia gia ta pyrhnika toy Iran. Aixmes apo to Israhl\n Karxarias skotwse 35xrono andra sthn Aystralia\nDyo seismikes donhseis me diafora molis ligwn deyteroleptwn shmeiwqhkan shmera ta jhmerwmata ston ypoqalassio xwro notia ths Krhths.\nEidikotera, stis 05:28:46 katagrafhke seismos megeqoys 4,3 baqmwn ths klimakas Rixter, symfwna me thn prokatarktikh ektimhsh toy Gewdynamikoy Institoytoy toy Eqnikoy Asteroskopeioy Aqhnwn, 139 xlm notia ths Ierapetras Lasiqioy h opoia egine aisqhth sthn perioxh.\nNwritera kai sygkekrimena, stis 05:28:46 katagrafhke seismikh donhsh ston ypoqalassio xwro ths Dytikhs Krhths se apostash 39 xlm. dytika - notiodytika ths Xwras Sfakiwn Xaniwn kai se estiako baqos 20 xlm.\nAkoloyqhse mia akomh donhsh ta jhmerwmata, stis 06:05pm, 125 xlm notia ths Ierapetras megeqoys 3,8 Rixter .\nMe apergiakes kinhtopoihseis apeilei to germaniko ergatiko syndikato Bernti thn polyeqnikh etaireia Amazon, ton megalytero omilo lianikhs pwlhshs ston kosmo toy Internet, kaqws synexizetai h diamaxh toy syndikatoy kai ths etaireias gia tis amoibes kai tis synqhkes ergasias.\nMelos toy DS toy syndikatoy,eipe oti to ergatiko syndikato exei hdh proeidopoihsei ta melh toy oti qa mporoyse na ginei apergiakh kinhtopoihsh kata thn periodo twn Xristoygennwn.\nH Amazon apasxolei peripoy 9.000 atoma sth Germania, poy einai h megalyterh agora ths etaireias ektos twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn.\nH epikefalhs ths eyrwpaikhs diplwmatias Kaqrin Aston, exontas dipla ths oloys toys ypoyrgoys poy meteixan stis diapragmateyseis gia to iraniko pyrhniko programma, anegnwse sthn edra toy OHE sth Geneyh koinh dhlwsh anakoinwnontas ``mia symfwnia gia ena sxedio drashs''.\nH Aston anaferomenh sto periexomeno ths symfwnias sto opoio den epektaqhke tonise: ``Prospaqhsame na antapokriqoyme stis anhsyxies ths dieqnoys koinothtas kai na to kanoyme me sebasmo pros thn kybernhsh kai ton lao toy Iran''.\nTo Israhl kathggeile thn ``kakh symfwnia'' sth Geneyh gia to iraniko pyrhniko programma tonizontas oti h Texeranh ``phre ayto poy hqele'', symfwna me anakoinwsh toy grafeioy toy prwqypoyrgoy Mpeniamin Netaniaxoy.\nOi arxes ths Dytikhs Aystralias ekleisan proswrina oles tis paralies konta sthn perioxh Gkrestaoyn opoy enas anqrwpos exase th zwh toy otan dexqhke epiqesh apo enan karxaria se dhmofilh paralia gia serfingk .\nO 35xronos andras apo thn perioxh Margkaret Riber ekane serf otan toy epiteqhke enas megalos leykos karxarias.\nOpws egine gnwsto toy eleipe ena xeri otan anasyrqhke nekros apo to nero.\nTo swma toy metaferqhke me elikoptero apo thn perioxh.\nNwritera o idios karxarias feretai na epiteqhke kai se allon serfer.\nana2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 24 November 2013 - 9:30:20 UTC


url: = "Neo dogma ths ejwterikhs politikhs"\n Ektos PASOK Mhtropoylos-Dhmaras\n B.Mixaloliakos-Ypochfios ston Peiraia\n Prostimo se kolegio\n "Metakinoymaste ejypna, zoyme kalytera"\n Boles apo thn Aik. Pelekh\n "Stis dieqneis agores to 2011"\n Sta dixtya toy SDOE\n ``Nao'', to rompot\nStis Bryjelles brisketai o prwqypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na symmetasxei sth synodo toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy.\nSto epikentro ths synodoy poy jekina stis 11 p.m. (wra Ellados) qa breqoyn oi sxeseis me toys strathgikoys etairoys ths EE, alla kai to qema ths oikonomikhs diakybernhshs.\nAnestalh apo ta mesanyxta, h epibolh toy metroy ths anwtaths timhs katanalwth (plafon) petrelaioeidwn poy isxyei apo 13 Septembrioy 2010 dioti, opws anaferetai se anakoinwsh toy ypoyrgeioy Perifereiakhs Anaptyjh kai Antagwnistikothtas ''meta toys entatikoys elegxoys poy dienerghqhkan kai dienergoyntai, diapistwnetai oti pleon h agora leitoyrgei kanonika kai ws pros thn trofodosia twn prathriwn kai ws pros th diamorfwsh twn timwn. Synepws, ekleipei h anagkh synexishs ths efarmoghs toy metroy''.\nTelos shmeiwse oti yphrje desmeysh apo toys ekproswpoys twn prathrioyxwn oti qa antimetwpisoyn sto mellon fainomena aisxrokerdeias san ayta poy parathrhqhkan to perasmeno Sabbatokyriako.\nSynexizoyn tis kinhtopoihseis oi idiokthtes forthgwn\nNa synexisoyn tis kinhtopoihseis toys, me thn paroysa morfh toys, dhladh me paratajh twn oxhmatwn toys stis eqnikes odoys, alla me polyplhqesterh paroysia, apofasisan oi Idiokthtes Forthgwn kai Bytioforwn Dhmosias Xrhshs, sth diarkeia ths syskechs twn proedrwn twn Omospondiwn ap' olh thn Ellada, poy pragmatopoihqhke xqes to apogeyma.\nKataqetontas xqes sthn armodia epitrophs ths boylhs opoy syzhteitai to nomosxedio, o proedros ths Panellhnias Omospondias k. Giwrgos Tzwrtzatos, isxyristhke oti to nomosxedio den proxwra sto anoigma enos kleistoy epaggelmatos, alla sto kleisimo twn spitiwn 130.000 oikogeneiwn.\nEktos PASOK exoyn hdh breqei o Alejhs Mhtropoylos kai o Giannhs Dhmaras, kaqws me thn anakoinwsh ths ypochfiothtas toys gia thn Perifereia Attikhs, erxontai antimetwpoi me thn epishmh epilogh toy kommatos, poy einai o Giannhs Sgoyros.\nEpipleon, o proedros ths EKAP anefere oti "den xreiazetai na ginei kamia diadikasia".\nSe dhlwsh toy de poy brisketai apo to prwi sthn istoselida "Real.gr", shmeiwne oti den prokeitai ta dyo stelexh na klhqoyn se apologia, alla oyte kai na yparjei anakoinwsh. Akomh, o k. Anwmeriths dieykrinise oti pleon o Al. Mhtropoylos xanei kai thn idiothta toy meloys toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy.\nYpenqymizetai oti toso o G. Dhmaras, oso kai h S. Sakorafa kai o B. Oikonomoy exasan aytomatws thn idiothta toy meloys toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy toy PASOK otan teqhkan ektos ths K.O. toy kommatos, meta thn epilogh toys na diaforopoihqoyn apo thn epishmh qesh ths kybernhshs, chfizontas "parwn" anti na sthrijoyn to nomosxedio gia to mnhmonio.\nThn idiothta toy meloys sto E.S. eixan ex officio, ws boyleytes toy PASOK.\nNwritera, erwthqeis o kybernhtikos ekproswpos Giwrgos Petalwths dieykrinize oti den tiqetai qema gia ton G. Dhmara, kaqws htan melos toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy toy PASOK (mono) oso htan melos ths KO toy kommatos, enw anaforika me thn ypochfiothta toy Al. Mhtropoyloy, tonize oti einai qema toy kommatos kai oxi ths kybernhshs.\nProstimo 40.000 eyrw, kat' efarmogh twn diatajewn toy n. 2251/1994 poy apagoreyoyn tis aqemites emporikes praktikes, se epixeirhsh ("Hellenic American University") poy xrhsimopoiei stis diafhmistikes ths anakoinwseis ton oro "University", xwris na einai Ellhniko Dhmosio Panepisthmio epebale o Genikos Grammateas Katanalwth k. D. Spyrakos.\nSygxronws, exoyn kinhqei kai einai se ejelijh oi sxetikes dioikhtikes diadikasies gia ton elegxo diafhmistikwn kataxwrisewn kai emporikwn praktikwn kai allwn epixeirhsewn, oi opoies drasthriopoioyntai ston tomea ths paroxhs yphresiwn metalykeiakhs ekpaideyshs kai xrhsimopoioyn paranoma toys prosdioristikoys titloys "Panepisthmio" h "Kolegio" sthn ellhnikh h agglikh glwssa h kalliergoyn anakribeis entypwseis gia to epipedo kai thn akadhmaikh anagnwrish twn ekpaideytikwn yphresiwn poy parexoyn. Orismena de kentra anakoinwsan hdh sthn Genikh Grammateia Katanalwth thn aposyrsh toy epimaxoy diafhmistikoy ylikoy.\nApo th genikh grammateia shmeiwnetai oti epeidh tis teleytaies hmeres, me thn enarjh ths akadhmaikhs periodoy, parathreitai ejarsh stis diafhmiseis twn idiwtikwn ekpaideythriwn gia thn proselkysh newn spoydastwn, syxna, oi diafhmizomenoi xrhsimopoioyn sthn epikoinwnia toys me toys katanalwtes anafores se poiotika xarakthristika ths nomikhs morfhs toys, twn yphresiwn poy parexoyn h twn ptyxiwn poy aponemoyn, ta opoia syxna den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta kai endexetai na odhgoyn toys katanalwtes se lhch apofashs synallaghs me ta parapanw ekpaideythria, thn opoia, an gnwrizan ta pragmatika peristatika, isws na mhn lambanan.\nEidikotera, orismena ekpaideythria xrhsimopoioyn ton oro "Panepisthmio" h "University", o opoios mporei na xrhsimopoihqei mono apo Ellhnika Dhmosia Panepisthmia. Alla ekpaideythria xrhsimopoioyn ton oro "Kolegio", molonoti sthn pragmatikothta den symperilambanontai sthn palaia lista toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias, Dia Bioy Maqhshs kai Qrhskeymatwn me ta adeiodothmena Kolegia, oyte sth nea me ta adeiodothmena pleon Kentra Metalykeiakhs Ekpaideyshs. H xrhsh twn lejewn "Panepisthmio" h "Kolegio", ypo tis synqhkes aytes, mporei na prokalesei sygxysh toy koinoy ws pros to epipedo kai thn akadhmaikh anagnwrish twn ekpaideytikwn yphresiwn poy parexoyn oi parapanw epixeirhseis.\nH Genikh Grammateia Katanalwth efista thn prosoxh twn katanalwtwn oti symfwna me to isxyon kaqestws, opws diamorfwqhke meta tis tropopoihseis toy n. 3848/2010:\n- ta idiwtika ekpaideythria poy feroyn nomimws ton xarakthrismo "Kolegio" metonomazontai se "Kentra Metalykeiakhs Ekpaideyshs" (KE.ME.).\n- ta KE.ME. ofeiloyn na exoyn labei adeia leitoyrgias ypo to isxyon kaqestws kai ypoxreoyntai na xrhsimopoioyn olografws ton titlo "Kentro Metalykeiakhs Ekpaideyshs".\n- Apagoreyetai sta KE.ME. na xarakthrizontai Panepisthmio, Sxolh, Organismos, Institoyto, Akadhmia h na feroyn opoiadhpote allh proswnymia, h opoia dynatai na paraplanhsei ws pros tis prosferomenes yphresies.\n- Den epitrepetai h xrhsh toy oroy "Panepisthmio" sthn ellhnikh h se jenh glwssa. Mono oi eggegrammenoi sto Mhtrwo KE.ME. toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias, Dia Bioy Maqhshs kai Qrhskeymatwn paroxoi yphresiwn ekpaideyshs kai katartishs epitrepetai na feroyn ton xarakthrismo "KE.ME." sto sygkekrimeno xwro ekpaideyshs kai katartishs.\nO Genikos Grammateas Katanalwth, Dhmhtrhs Spyrakos, tonise oti "oi elegxoi epikentrwnontai se oles ekeines tis emporikes praktikes aposiwphshs h paraplanhtikhs paroysiashs krisimwn stoixeiwn, oi opoies mporoyn na ephreasoyn tis apofaseis twn katanalwtwn anaforika me thn epilogh sygkekrimenoy ekpaideythrioy".\nSxetikes kataggelies kai anafores mporoyn na ginontai apo toys katanalwtes sthn thlefwnikh grammh ths Genikhs Grammateias Katanalwth 1520.\nBoles kata toy prwhn prwqypoyrgoy Kwnstantinoy Karamanlh kai melwn toy stenoy prwqypoyrgikoy periballontos ejapelyse h syzygos toy prwhn ypoyrgoy ths ND Giwrgoy Boylgarakh, Aikaterinh Pelekh enwpion ths prokatarktikhs epitrophs ths Boylhs poy diereyna thn ypoqesh toy Batopedioy.\nSthn kataqesh ths h k. Pelekh dhlwse: "Profanws yphrje kentrikh politikh apofash poy elhfqh me eyqynh toy prwqypoyrgoy kai metabibasthke stoys ypoyrgoys apo toys kaq' ylhn armodioys. Egw jerw oti oi antres forane pantelonia kai analambanoyn tis eyqynes toys, opws tis analambanw egw poy den foraw".\nSe erwthseis boyleytwn gia toys ypoyrgoys stoys opoioys metabibasthke h entolh anefere toys k.k. Mpasiako, Konto, Kiltidh kai Doyka, enw gia toys kaq' ylhn armodioys toys k.k. Q.Roysopoylo kai Giannh Aggeloy.\nH k. Pelekh, poy htan h symbolaiografos poy xeiristhke thn pleionothta twn ypoqesewn antallagwn toy Dhmosioy me th Monh Batopedioy, feretai na eipe oti qewrei pws yfistatai politikh diwjh epeidh einai h syzygos toy Giwrgoy Boylgarakh.\n- Exw katastrafei epaggelmatika kai koinwnika, toylaxiston as apokatastaqw hqika, tonise, ypogrammizontas oti h idia den exei bgalei oyte ena eyrw apo ayth thn ypoqesh.\nMilwntas pros toys dhmosiografoys h k. Pelekh anefere oti " gia mia kybernhtikh apofash poy elhfqh apo ton prwqypoyrgo kai to prwqypoyrgiko grafeio kai ylopoihqhke apo toys ypoyrgoys den mporei kaneis na mhn analambanei thn eyqynh kai na ftaine tritoi, poy synistoyn ton kormo toy kratoys, dhladh gnwmodotika symboylia, yphresies ths KED, orkwtoi logistes kai mia symbolaiografos".\nSe erwthsh, an qewrei h idia oti qa eprepe na paei kai o prwhn prwqypoyrgos sto Eidiko Dikasthrio apanthse: "Den pisteyw oti yparxei skandalo. Den exw stoixeia oti zhmiwqhke to Dhmosio apo ayth thn antallagh. Alla qa eprepe o prwqypoyrgos anti na pei "den jerw" na bgei kai na pei, oti elhfqh mia kybernhtikh apofash me nomimes ypoyrgikes apofaseis kai na kalesei pente ektimhtikoys oikoys toy ejwterikoy na gnwmodothsoyn, an exase to Dhmosio kai kerdise h Monh. Qa perimena pragmati na milhsei estw kai twra o k. Karamanlhs".\nMe dieqneis ependytes synanthqhke sto Londino, o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, kai toys enhmerwse gia to programma ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kaqws kai gia tis eykairies ependysewn poy prosferei twra h Ellada.\nShmera qa metabei sto Parisi, opoy qa synanthqei me dieqneis ependytes kai me thn ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn ths Gallias Kristin Lagkarnt. To apogeyma, qa brisketai sth Frankfoyrth, opoy, ektos apo to road show me dieqneis ependytes, qa synanthqei me kai ton proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas Zan Klont Trise.\nSe synenteyjh poy edwse xqes sto Reuters, o Giwrgos Papakwnstantinoy dhlwse oti sxediazetai h ekdosh omologwn toy Dhmosioy gia toys Ellhnes toy ejwterikoy, kaqws h xwra anamenetai na epistrecei stis dieqneis agores omologwn mesa sto 2011.\n"Oi agores timologoyn ta ellhnika omologa me tropo poy den einai symbatos me th shmerinh katastash ths ellhnikhs oikonomias", shmeiwse, prosqetontas oti "einai shmantiko na doyn oti phge kala h ekdosh entokwn grammatiwn". To epitokio sthn ekdosh twn ejamhnwn grammatiwn toy Dhmosioy diamorfwqhke sto 4,82% kai agorasqhke kata 30% apo jenoys ependytes, opws shmeiwnei to Reuters epikaloymeno ajiwmatoyxoys.\n"An den eixame proxwrhsei sthn ekdosh twn grammatiwn, qa eprepe na daneisqoyme apo toys pistwtes mas , thn EE kai to DNT, me epitokio 5%", parathrhse o Ypoyrgos, prosqetontas oti "kaqe epitokio xamhlotero apo ayto, einai xrhsimo". Sxetika me thn epistrofh ths Elladas stis dieqneis agores omologwn, o ypoyrgos eipe oti "sxediazoyme na ginei ton epomeno xrono, alla o akribhs xronos qa ejarthqei, opws einai fysiko, apo thn katastash twn agorwn".\n"H Ellada se swsto dromo"\nTo melos toy dioikhtikoy symboylioy ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas Lorenzo Mpini Smagki tonise oti kata thn ellhnikh krish oi agores exasan thn empistosynh toys enanti ths Elladas kai twra epiqymoyn na peistoyn gia thn nea poreia poy xarazei h Ellada kai thn opoia h EKT yposthrizei me thn ``ajioqaymasth'' boylhsh thn opoia epideiknyei h ellhnikh kybernhsh.\nO L. Smagki proeblece oti apaitoyntai peripoy 9 me 12 mhnes prin antidrasoyn qetika oi agores ypo th safh bebaiws proypoqesh oti h Ellada qa synexisei sthn idia kateyqynsh ths dhmosionomikhs ejygianshs.\n``H prospaqeia ginetai, exoyme jekinhsei thn ereyna gyrw apo tis oikonomikes drasthriothtes oi opoies apatwntai sto Ellhniko Podosfairo, htan h arxh apo Qessalonikh, yparxoyn kai oi epomenes ypoqeseis poy diereynwntai edw sthn Aqhna, gnwrizete pera poly kala, kai h koinwnia gnwrizei, oti se kaqe oikonomikh drasthriothta yparxoyn kai diadikasies oi opoies den einai emfaneis, emeis apo thn pleyra mas prospaqoyme na apokalycoyme aytes kai na tis feroyme sto fws, prokeimenoy na katalogistoyn ta analogoynta se aytoys oi opoioi endexomena emplekontai.Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh mporei na htan se synallages kapoiwn dekadwn atomwn, apo ekei kai pera omws, jerete para poly kala, oti to olo fasma ayths ths oikonomikhs drasthriothtas oi emplekomenoi einai arketoi, ara den exei na kanei perissotero me ton ariqmo twn proswpwn, exei na kanei me to ycos endexomena twn synallagwn kai thn proeleysh aytwn twn synallagwn kai se ti aposkopoysan aytes oi synallages, ki an emfanizontan h oxi, ayto einai to zhtoymeno.''\nSe mia polypolitismikh koinwnia, oi symperifores, proefhbikh kai efhbikh, dexontai epirroes oxi pleon apo thn koinwniko-oikonomikh katastash ths oikogeneias, alla kyriws apo to morfwtiko epipedo kai th diaforetikothta sthn koyltoyra ths eqnikothtas.\nSe mia tetoia sygxronh koinwnia ths synyparjhs, aparaithto einai goneis kai ekpaideytikoi na gnwrizoyn toys mhxanismoys, poy proefhboi kai efhboi xrhsimopoioyn gia na lysoyn tis diafores toys, na dieyqethsoyn ta qemata toys.\nSto plaisio ayto, to ergasthrio toy Tomea Texnologias Plhroforikhs kai Ypologistwn (TPY) ths sxolhs Hlektrologwn Mhxanikwn kai Mhxanikwn Ypologistwn toy Eqnikoy Metsobioy Polytexneioy, sto opoio proistatai o kaqhghths Stefanos Kollias, exei jekinhsei apo thn 1h Septembrioy ena neo programma, poy ferei to onoma ``Siren''.\nProkeitai gia ena symmetoxiko paixnidi, poy qa paizoyn sto sxoleio paidia hlikiwn apo 10 ews 14 xronwn.\nOpws ejhgei sto APE-MPE o ereynhths b' baqmidas toy ergasthrioy, Kwstas Karpoyzhs, ta paidia mesa apo to paixnidi ayto qa prepei na epilysoyn kapoia problhmata se omades, alla taytoxrona qa prepei na leitoyrghsoyn antagwnistika me antipales omades.\n``Stoxos toy paixnidioy einai na mporesoyme na katalaboyme toys mhxanismoys poy xrhsimopoioyn ta paidia gia na epilysoyn tis metajy toys sygkroyseis'', leei o k. Karpoyzhs, ejhgwntas oti mesa apo th diadikasia toy paixnidioy qa ginetai fanero pws to paidi leitoyrgei mesa se mia omada, poios einai o rolos toy s' aythn kai pws symperiferetai, toso apenanti stoys sympaiktes toy, oso kai apenanti sta melh ths antipalhs omadas.\nSto programma symmetexoyn episthmones apo th Dania, thn Agglia kai thn Portogalia, me skopo na ereynhqoyn oi symperifores se eqniko epipedo.\nTo paixnidi anaptyssetai mesa se enan eikoniko kosmo kai to paidi kaleitai na ``perasei'' kapoies pistes kai qa prepei na synergastei me alloys symmaqhtes toy, h na toys antagwnistei.\nSkopos ths efarmoghs einai na entaxqei sta sxoleia gia th diaxeirish twn sygkroysewn kai na bgalei o daskalos xrhsima symperasmata gia ta paidia poy exei sthn tajh toy.\nShmeiwnetai oti h ereynhtikh omada toy kaqhghth St. Kollia den einai h prwth fora poy entypwsiazei, me programmata, poy analambanei na ekponhsei. Einai ayth h omada poy symmeteixe sth dhmioyrgia toy prwtoy eyrwpaikoy rompot, toy ``Nao'', to opoio antilambanetai ta anqrwpina synaisqhmata.\n``O "Nao" jekinhse ws rompot - podosfairisths, gia na symmetasxei sto robocup, me stoxo ews to 2050 na dhmioyrghqei mia omada me rompotikoys podosfairistes, h opoia na mporei na paijei podosfairo me kanonikes apenanti se kanonikes omades. To zhtoymeno htan na ftiajoyme, bebaiws, ena rompot, poy qa mporei na paizei kalo podosfairo, qa mporei na kineitai toso kala kai aytonoma xwris na toy leme emeis, poy na paei, kai se perioxes epikindynes gia ton anqrwpo'', shmeiwnei o k. Karpoyzhs.\nStis ameses proteraiothtes twn ereynhtwn einai h anaptyjh texnologias, wste ayta ta rompot na mporoyn na bohqhsoyn anqrwpoys ajiologwntas th symperifora toys. Na synyparxoyn sto spiti me enan hlikiwmeno, na ton frontizoyn, na toy kratoyn syntrofia, h kai na analambanoyn th diaswsh anqrwpwn se perioxes, poy den mporei na plhsiasei o anqrwpos.\n``O stoxos den einai na katalabainei an gelame, h an hmaste stenoxwrhmenoi, alla oles oi epi meroys leitoyrgies, poy anaptyssoyme, gia na ftasoyme sthn anagnwrish synaisqhmatwn'', shmeiwnei o k. Karpoyzhs.\nTo sygkekrimeno ergasthrio, wstoso, parhgage ki ena akomh ergo, poy exei sxesh me ta synaisqhmata kai afora th bohqeia, mesw ypologistwn, se dyslejika paidia. M' ayto to programma mporei na katalabei kaneis, mesw mias kameras, an to paidi diabazei, h eixe apospastei h prosoxh toy, h an dyskoleyetai, kai prepei na bohqhqei.\n``Oi ereynes edeijan oti ta paidia mporoyn na anaptyjoyn poly apotelesmatikoys desmoys me anqrwpakia sthn oqonh, h rompot. Ena tetoio rompotaki sto qranio qa mporoysame na to exoyme ws bohqo gia ta paidia h mesa sto spiti ws bohqo gia toys hlikiwmenoys. To qema, omws, einai kata poson eimaste etoimoi, ws koinwnia, na dextoyme mia anqrwpomorfh mhxanh dipla mas, alla kai posh aytenergeia qa paraxwroysame s' aythn'', tonizei o k. Karpoyzhs.\nShmeiwnetai oti h EE exei ependysei thn teleytaia pentaetia perissotera apo 80 ekat. eyrw sta rompotika systhmata, dedomenoy oti ayta einai oysiastika to texnologiko pedio, sto opoio mporei na antagwnistei tis HPA kai thn Iapwnia, wste etairies ths, mellontika na mporoyn na pwloyn tetoia rompot, tmhma twn opoiwn qa aforoyn th frontida sto spiti.\nEna rompot, omws, poy qa htan epifortismeno me th frontida enos paidioy, h enos hlikiwmenoy, prepei na exei kai ena eidos proswpikothtas. Na antidra sto drwmeno ths stigmhs, na parakoloyqei ena shrial sthn thleorash kai na sxoliazei.\nPoso konta, wstoso, eimaste sto na anaptyjoyme mia tetoia texnologia;\n``Eimaste poly konta. To qema einai to na mporesoyme na prosarmosoyme to plaisio ths allhlepidrashs, na jeperasoyme to ychlo kostos kataskeyhs, kai mia seira apo synepeies poy den exoyn lyqei akomh sto mhxaniko kommati, opws eystaqeia, aytonomia k.a'', shmeiwnei o k. Karpoyzhs.\nSto plaisio ths premieras toy 2oy omiloy, o Arhs ypodexetai thn katoxo toy tropaioy, Atletiko Madriths, poy qa parataxqei sto ``Kleanqhs Bikelidhs'' xwris ton Serxio Agoyero. Wstoso, o Forlan kai h parea toy poy prosfata epikrathsan ths Inter sto eyrwpaiko Soyper Kap, deixnoyn na exoyn apokthsei podosfairikh wrimothta kai ektos apo to qeama, emaqan na pairnoyn kai to epiqymhto apotelesma. Oi ``roximplankos'' einai to jekaqaro fabori kai o Ektor Raoyl Koyper poy den antimetwpizei sobara problhmata, perimenei apo toys paiktes toy na apodwsoyn to megisto twn dynatothtwn toys, prokeimenoy o Arhs na exei baqmologiko ofelos apo ton agwna. Ston allo agwna toy omiloy, h Leberkoyzen filojenei thn Rozenmporgk kai einai to apolyto fabori gia thn katakthsh twn triwn baqmwn.\nParallhla kai gia ton 4o omilo, o PAOK filojeneitai apo thn Mpriz kai einai se qesh na apospasei qetiko apotelesma. Oi Belgoi einai arketa apodynamwmenoi kai se kammia periptwsh den exoyn thn omada toy prosfatoy parelqontos. Efoson oi paiktes toy Nikoy Dermitzakh, paijoyn symfwna me tis dynatothtes toys, mporoyn kallista na paroyn qetiko apotelesma kai na mpoyn sthn diorganwsh me qetiko proshmo. Sthn allh anametrhsh toy omiloy, h Bigiareal, dokimazetai se mia apo tis pio ``kaytes'' edres ths Eyrwphs, kaqws filojeneitai sto Zagkremp apo thn Ntinamo, me stoxo to qetiko apotelesma.\nAkomh, gia ton 7o omilo, h AEK qa filojenhsei thn Xaintoyk Split poy erxetai sthn Aqhna, me stoxo na diathrhsei to ``mhden'' kai na ekmetalleyqei kapoia antepiqesh. Oi Kroates areskontai ston sygkekrimeno tropo paixnidioy kai qa epidiwjoyn na paroyn qetiko apotelesma sto OAKA. An omws h AEK ekmetalleyqei thn grammh kroyshs kai piesei apo thn arxh toy agwna, einai se qesh na skorarei kai na ferei ton agwna sta metra ths, bazontas tis baseis gia prokrish sthn epomenh fash. Ston allo agwna toy omiloy, h Anterlext ypodexetai thn Zenit Agias Petroypolhs, se mia ejairetika anoikth anametrhsh.\nana2html v2.01 run on Thursday, 16 September 2010 - 6:31:05 UTC