url: =Aqhna, 9 Martioy 2006\nO Prwqypoyrgos ayrio, Paraskeyh 10 Martioy, stis 10.30, qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Makedonias-Qrakhs k. G. Kalantzh kai stis 12.00 me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas k. B. Meimarakh.\nSPYRAKH: Exw na sas kanw dyo erwthseis. H prwth afora sto an h kybernhsh exei kapoio sxolio se sxesh me thn epistolh ths EUROSTAT gia ton tropo ypologismoy twn amyntikwn dapanwn ston proypologismo.\nSPYRAKH: Qa sas parakaloysa aplws na mas apanthsete mexri to brady.\nANTWNAROS: Qa sas apanthsw opwsdhpote.\nSPYRAKH: Ep` aytoy, einai ena erwthma ean sas apasxolei to gegonos oti h EUROSTAT qewrei ws tropo ypologismoy twn amyntikwn dapanwn ayton poy mexri to 2004 efarmozan oi kybernhseis toy PASOK.\nANTWNAROS: Qa sas apanthsw, molis exw kati, entos ths hmeras.\nSPYRAKH: H deyterh erwthsh moy, k. Ekproswpe, afora sto sxolio poy exei kybernhsh gia to porisma ths ADAE. Pws einai dynaton mia anejarthth arxh, h opoia ektimhqhke kat` arxhn apo thn kybernhsh oti den exei tis texnikes dynatothtes na proseggisei to qema twn ypoklopwn, na katalhgei se ena porisma se syntomo xroniko diasthma, thn wra poy h Dikaiosynh xreiasthke 11 mhnes gia na ejetasei 13 martyres.\nANTWNAROS: H Dikaiosynh asxoleitai se baqos me thn ypoqesh. H ereyna synexizetai me stoxo na dialeykanqei h ypoqesh. Me aformh thn erwthsh poy molis poy kanate, moy dinete thn eykairia na kanw dyo epishmanseis poy prokyptoyn apo th dhmosiopoihsh toy porismatos ths Arxhs Diasfalishs toy Aporrhtoy twn Epikoinwniwn: Prwton, apo thn koinopoihsh ths ypoqeshs sthn kybernhsh apo ton dieyqynonta symboylo ths etaireias eleipe to basiko stoixeio sxetika me to trito kentro parakoloyqhshs, me o,ti ayto mporei na shmainei gia thn ajiopistia kai tis skopimothtes poy ypokryptontai pisw apo ayth thn kinhsh. Deyteron, sthn teleytaia paragrafo toy porismatos ths ADAE anaferetai oti h etaireia VODAFONE paredwse sthn anejarthth Arxh stoixeia gia orismenes mono hmeromhnies, dhlwnontas oti den diathrei sta arxeia ths ta plhrh stoixeia poy ths zhthqhkan. Ypenqymizw oti se apospasma prosfaths epishmhs anakoinwshs ths etaireias ginotan logos gia ``akribh eikona toy diktyoy ths'' poy ``eixe apotypwqei plhrws se magnhtika mesa''. H apokalych oloena kai perissoterwn stoixeiwn apodeiknyei thn orqothta ths proseggishs ths kybernhshs na steilei thn ypoqesh, amesws molis perihlqe se gnwsh ths, sth Dikaiosynh, wste na diereynhqei plhrws kaqe ptyxh ths.\nSARANTAKOS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh metaniwnei, me bash ayta ta nea stoixeia poy erxontai sto fws ths dhmosiothtas, poy afhse apejw apo olh ayth th diadikasia apo thn prwth stigmh thn anejarthth ayth Arxh gia thn prostasia toy aporrhtoy twn epikoinwniwn.\nANTWNAROS: Exoyme apanthsei polles fores me safhneia se paromoia erwthmata.\nSARANTAKOS: Me sygxwreite, exoyme nea stoixeia. Dhladh, den apeyqynomai se palaioteres apanthseis sas.\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti exoyme apanthsei para polles fores se paromoia erwthmata. Allwste, yparxoyn qesmikoi paragontes poy asxoloyntai me to qema.\nSARANTAKOS: Twra pia. Oxi apo thn arxh poy plhroforhqhkate to gegonos.\nANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn qesmikoi paragontes poy asxoloyntai apo thn arxh me to qema.\nSARANTAKOS: ``Qesmikoi paragontes'', ennoeite toys ypoyrgoys poy asxolhqhkan me to qema. Aytoys ennoeite qesmikoys paragontes.\nBLAXOS: Yparxei ena qema hqikhs tajews. Bgainei, shmera, o k. Roysopoylos kai se apokleistikh toy dhlwsh sthn efhmerida ``ELEYQEROTYPIA'' leei oti oydepote h VODAFONE mas edwse tetoia stoixeia. Einai qema hqikhs tajews.\nANTWNAROS: Den katalabainw ti ennoeite ``qema hqikhs tajews''.\nBLAXOS: Apokalyptei o ypoyrgos Epikrateias k. Roysopoylos oti oloklhrh h kybernhsh perimene apo th VODAFONE na parei tetoia stoixeia. Egw rwtw, einai dynaton meta apo tosoys mhnes h kybernhsh na leei paraponoymenh oti h VODAFONE den mas edwse ola ta stoixeia; Mia kybernhsh perimenei apo mia etaireia poy empleketai sto qema twn ypoklopwn, na ths apokalycei tis enoxes ths; Enteka-dwdeka mhnes, posoys htan, den phrate kamia antikeimenikh Arxh na elegjei ean ayta poy sas edine h VODAFONE htan alhqina h oxi; Eseis, edw, bghkate treis ypoyrgoi @\nANTWNAROS: Teleiwsate to logydrio sas;\nBLAXOS: Exw akoysei kai xeirotera apo ton k. Roysopoylo, alla den peirazei. Logydrio einai! Entajei, peite moy. To dexomai oti htan logydrio.\nANTWNAROS: Logydrio einai ayto, to opoio ekfwnhsate kai eiste kai kalos, dynatos sto logo. Den to amfisbhtw, allwste. Qa hqela na pw oti profanws agnoeite me thn erwthsh poy kanete apla pragmata: Otan arxise h astynomikh ereyna doqhkan sygkekrimena stoixeia basei twn opoiwn eginan sygkekrimenoi elegxoi. Afoy oloklhrwqhke h astynomikh ereyna to qema anelabe h Dikaiosynh. Ti eipe o k. Roysopoylos xqes; Sas diabazw, loipon, th dhlwsh poy epikaleiste: ``Oydepote teqhkan sth diaqesh ths kybernhshs ta sygkekrimena stoixeia poy anaferontai sthn ekqesh eyrhmatwn ths ADAE. O ekproswpos ths etaireias den ta anefere, oyte ston tote ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs k. Boylgarakh, oyte ston ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs Anastasio Papalhgoyra, oyte sto ypomnhma toy pros ton eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy''. Ayto den shmainei oti apo ekei kai pera, meta apo aytes tis anafores poy ekane o k. Korwnias sta kybernhtika stelexh poy synanthse, den proxwrhsan h astynomikh ereyna, h dikastikh ereyna kai twra h ereyna ths ADAE .\nBLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, 11 mhnes exete thn ereyna sta xeria sas, eseis kai h Dikaiosynh. Ena mhna phre h ADAE sta xeria ths thn ereyna kai katelhje se ayto to symperasma. Enteka mhnes, giati kaqysteroyse ayth h ereyna; Peite moy sas parakalw.\nANTWNAROS: Profanws, den synennooymeqa akomh gi` ayto poy qelw na sas pw.\nBLAXOS: Einai profanes oti den synennoymeqa.\nANTWNAROS: H ADAE xrhsimopoiei profanws kai orismena stoixeia, ta opoia proekycan apo thn ereyna poy egine olo ayto to diasthma.\nBLAXOS: Giati ayta ta stoixeia den mas ta apokalycate nwritera, dioti shmera bgainete kataggellontas ton k. Korwnia kai th VODAFONE oti edw yparxoyn skopimothtes. To anaferete eseis. Toso kairo, giati den kataggelletai tis skopimothtes Korwnia kai VODAFONE, alla tis kataggelletai afoy bghke ayto to porisma ths ADAE kai oxi apo toys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias, alla apo toys boyleytes toy PASOK.\nANTWNAROS: Poioys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias;\nBLAXOS: Aytoi poy phran xqes to xarti sta xeria toys, oi opoioi mas elegan oti den exoyn tetoio xarti apo thn ADAE.\nANTWNAROS: Einai safes ayto poy sas lew, alla den mporeite na to katalabete h -den qa hqela na isxyristw kati tetoio- oti den qelete na to katalabete.\nBLAXOS: Giati kataggellete shmera gia anajiopistia kai gia kapoies perierges skopimothtes ton k. Korwnia, kati poy den to kanate mexri xqes kai to kanete 24 wres meta thn apokalych toy keimenoy ths ADAE. Efoson, loipon, eixate stoixeia, giati den to kanate toso kairo, toses hmeres; Ti krybate; Giati den to kanate;\nANTWNAROS: Ma, ejakoloyqeite kai moy lete oti yphrxan ta stoixeia. Ta stoixeia yparxoyn apo th stigmh poy perilambanontai se ena porisma.\nBLAXOS: Ths ADAE, oxi ths kybernhshs. Jerete ti egine prin apo ligo;\nANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw. Gnwrizete poly kala oti qesmika mia ypoqesh ereynatai se diafora epipeda. Ayto giati epimenete na to paragnwrizete;\nBLAXOS: Jerete ti egine prin apo ligo k. Ekproswpe; Enas boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias poy proedreyei sthn Epitroph Qesmwn o k. Karamarios, jekinwntas th synedriash eipe, apeyqynomenos ston k. Korwnia: ``Kyrie Korwnia, eseis poy apokalycate to qema twn ypoklopwn, exete to logo''. Paraligo na ferei kai ena stefani, na ton stefanwsei.\nANTWNAROS: Den mporw na sxoliasw diadikasies poy sxetizontai me th leitoyrgia toy Koinoboylioy.\nBLAXOS: Den ekqetei ayth h stash thn kybernhsh;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei sygkekrimenh qesh thn opoia exoyme ejhghsei epaneilhmmenws se ayth thn aiqoysa. H qesh ayth einai safhs. H kybernhsh, molis perihlqe se gnwsh ths h sygkekrimenh ypoqesh, eixe to qesmiko kaqhkon na th steilei sth Dikaiosynh. To politiko mas systhma leitoyrgei me treis pylwnes. Ayto den prepei na to jexna kaneis. Otan o enas pylwnas peftei qyma ypoklophs, opws kai egine sth sygkekrimenh ypoqesh, tote exei thn ypoxrewsh na paei th sygkekrimenh ypoqesh amesws molis perielqei se gnwsh toy ston allon pylwna, th Dikaiosynh kai na frontisei, wste na apokalyftei h alhqeia.\nSIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, as poyme oti mas eixate peisei pws prajate qesmika analogws, omws ta eyrhmata ths ADAE sas ekqetoyn. Ekqetoyn thn kybernhsh. Kaneis ypoyrgos den eniwse thn eyaisqhsia na paraithqei; Sas ekqetoyn. Eipate oti h ereyna ths ADAE profanws basisthke sthn ews twra ereyna. Den to jerete.\nANTWNAROS: Ekeino poy sas eipa -kai einai safes- einai oti h astynomikh ereyna einai ayth h opoia ecaje, brhke texnikes leptomereies, gi` ayto kai dihrkhse toso megalo diasthma.\nSIDERHS: Akomh ki etsi na einai k. Ekproswpe@\nANTWNAROS: Ma, ti paei na pei ``akomh ki etsi na einai''. Etsi einai.\nSIDERHS: Ma, yparxei to anamfisbhthto oti eiste ekteqeimenoi, giati den dwsate amesws sthn ADAE na kanei ayth thn ereyna. Qa mporoyse na exoyme edw kai 10 mhnes to porisma.\nANTWNAROS: Pali exoyme kapoia dyskolia epikoinwnias.\nSIDERHS: Oxi. Prospaqeite na anapodogyrisete ta pragmata. Exw to logo na pw kai kati allo;\nANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Den exw na sas pw tipote allo panw se ayto. Einai para poly safes.\nSIDERHS: Den niwqei kaneis thn anagkh na paraithqei;\nANTWNAROS: Giati na paraithqei;\nSIDERHS: Giati sas ejeqese h idia h Arxh sthn opoia twra prosfygate kai oxi prin apo 11 mhnes.\nANTWNAROS: Profanws den exete antilhfqei osa sas ejhghsa.\nMPOTSATAKOS: Apo tis shmerines sas dhlwseis kai apo ta stoixeia poy prokyptoyn apo to porisma ths ADAE diapistwnoyme dyo pragmata: Prwton, oti o k. Korwnias apekryce to trito kentro kai oti apekryce kapoia apo ta stoixeia toy logismikoy, afoy symfwna me thn ADAE den yparxoyn ola ta stoixeia. Den qa eprepe na exei kinhqei h Dikaiosynh, afoy dhmosiopoihqhke to porisma, katateqhke sth Boylh, enantion toy k. Korwnia poy apekryce stoixeia toy egklhmatos;\nANTWNAROS: Ayto einai ena erwthma to opoio, opws antilambaneste, prepei na apeyqynete sth Dikaiosynh. Molis prin apo ligo sas milhsa gia toys treis pylwnes panw stoys opoioys edrazetai to politiko mas systhma. Asfalws, se oloys einai gnwsth h diakrish twn ejoysiwn. Pera apo ayto, qa epimeinw gia mia akomh fora sthn poly aplh diapistwsh oti h ereyna brisketai se ejelijh. Den exei oloklhrwqei. Ta eyrhmata ths mexri twra astynomikhs kai dikastikhs ereynas apoteloyn th bash ths synolikhs ereynas.\nGARGALAKOS: Qewrei h kybernhsh oti paraplanhqhke apo ton k. Korwnia;\nKYRITSHS: Qelw na rwthsw, ean isxyei h dhlwsh ths kybernhshs oti o k. Korwnias thrhse ypeyqynh stash. Einai dhlwsh h opoia eixe ginei apo toys ypoyrgoys sth synenteyjh. Apo ton k. Boylgarakh, sygkekrimena.\nANTWNAROS: O k. Boylgarakhs exei dieykrinisei -se metepeita dhlwseis toy- ti akribws ennooyse. Ayto einai safes.\nKORAH: Gia na afhsoyme ligo to astynomiko qema kai na perasoyme sto politiko. Me tis apokalyceis poy parakoloyqoyme, fobatai h kybernhsh oti to anejelegkto ths olhs ypoqeshs mporei na odhghsei aporrhtes synomilies toy Prwqypoyrgoy se CD sthn Omonoia;\nANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kamia ypoqesh panw se ayto to qema. Ekeino to opoio pragmatika mas endiaferei -kai to lew gia mia akomh fora kai den qa koyrastw na to lew- einai na xyqei apleto fws se ayth thn ypoqesh. Se mia ypoqesh sthn opoia qymata htan o Prwqypoyrgos kai kentrika stelexh ths kybernhshs. Synepws, o Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh dinoyn megalh shmasia sthn plhrh dialeykansh ths ypoqeshs.\nMANH: Prin apo mia wra peripoy, jekinwntas h synedriash ths Epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs, o k. Karamarios enhmerwse kai typika to Swma gia thn ekqesh ths ADAE poy elaban xqes ta melh ths Epitrophs, alla me apajiwtikh anafora. Eipe xarakthristika: ``Xqes to apogeyma, labame ena prosxedio porismatos, egw prwth fora blepw na ginetai tetoio pragma. Na ginetai prosxedio porismatos''.\nANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio se sxesh me mia koinoboyleytikh diadikasia poy ayth th stigmh brisketai se ejelijh.\nMANH: Oxi. Den qelw na moy sxoliasete thn apanthsh toy k. Karamarioy. Na moy peite ean kai h kybernhsh aifnidiasthke me thn kinhsh ths ADAE na steilei thn ekqesh h ean qewrhse oti kakws thn esteile.\nANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gia thn ekqesh, to eipa.\nKAKALHS: Pws h kybernhsh, parolo poy apodeiknyetai oti den eixe ola ta dedomena ypoch ths kai h dikastikh ereyna briskotan se ejelijh, espeyse apo thn prwth stigmh na aqwwsei, prwton thn etaireia, deyteron na apokleisei kaqe anameijh ths Amerikanikhs Presbeias kai triton kaqe emplokh twn mystikwn yphresiwn. Dhladh, eixe hdh bgalei porisma h kybernhsh gia ola ayta, eixe apofanqei gia ola ayta, enw htan se ejelijh h ereyna.\nANTWNAROS: Foboymai oti eseis molis twra katalhjate se dyo porismata.\nKAKALHS: Mallon den qymaste ti eixate pei tote sthn prwth synenteyjh.\nANTWNAROS: Qymamai apolytws. Den hmoyn parwn sthn prwth synenteyjh, alla qymamai ti eipwqhke.\nKAKALHS: Den eixe tote aqwwqei h etaireia me th dhlwsh toy k. Boylgarakh;\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa: Foboymai oti eseis katalhgete twra se dyo ayqaireta porismata.\nBLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epanalambanete kai etsi einai oti o Prwqypoyrgos kai polloi Ypoyrgoi htan qymata twn ypoklopwn. Apokalyptetai omws, oti o katalogos aytos den einai o katalogos oloklhros. Einai xalkeymenos.\nANTWNAROS: Apo poy synagete kati tetoio;\nBLAXOS: To leei to porisma. Ara, loipon, edw yparxoyn ki alla onomata ta opoia kata enan periergo tropo einai ektos keimenoy. Ki egw rwtw: Ti ekane h kybernhsh gia na mporesei, me mia anejarthth arxh, na diapistwsei poiwn allwn ta thlefwna ta parakoloyqoysan, prokeimenoy na enhmerwsei ton ellhniko lao. Dhladh, me ayto to porisma ths ADAE einai profanes oti afhnete anoixto to endexomeno na parakoloyqoyntan ta thlefwna toy k. Papandreoy, ths k. Paparhga, toy k. Alabanoy, epixeirhmatiwn, dhmosiografwn. Eseis den mporeite ayth th stigmh na eggyhqeite oti den parakoloyqoyntai ayta ta thlefwna;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh ekane ayto to opoio eprepe na kanei. Aneqese sth Dikaiosynh na diereynhsei thn ypoqesh. Oso kai an ayto den aresei se polloys na to akoyne, ayto einai to qesmiko kaqhkon to opoio eixe h kybernhsh kai sto opoio antapokriqhke plhrws.\nBLAXOS: Nai, alla dyo Ypoyrgoi, phran to politiko kostos na dwsoyn politikh sfragida kai egkyrothta, dhladh o k. Roysopoylos kai o k. Boylgarakhs, anakoinwnontas kai diabazontas oi idioi paroysia toy ellhnikoy laoy, ton katalogo poy toys edwse h Vodafone. Kai o opoios apodeiknyetai twra oti den einai oloklhros, oti einai xalkeymenos.\nANTWNAROS: Yparxei profanws kapoia dyskolia synennohshs. Sthrixqhkame kai emeis, h kybernhsh kai h Dikaiosynh se stoixeia poy toys doqhkan.\nBLAXOS: Apo poion;\nANTWNAROS: Apo kei kai pera -ayto prospaqw na sas ejhghsw- arxizei h ereyna. H ereyna synexizetai. Den exoyme ftasei sto teliko stadio.\nBLAXOS: H ereyna eprepe na jekinhsei 10 Martioy kyrie Ekproswpe kai den@\nANTWNAROS: H ereyna jekinhse apo thn prwth hmera.\nBLAXOS: Apo thn ADAE;\nANTWNAROS: H ereyna jekinhse apo tis astynomikes arxes.\nBLAXOS: Ma h ADAE einai armodia kyrie Ekproswpe.\nANTWNAROS: Den mporei na kanei h ADAE th sygkekrimenh ereyna h opoia eprepe na ginei.\nBLAXOS: Ma, oriste, h ADAE bgazei twra to porisma meta apo tosoys mhnes kaqysterhshs kai mas leei oti o katalogos twn onomatwn poy parakoloyqoysan einai xalkeymenos, den einai oloklhros. H ADAE exei thn texnognwsia na bgalei ayta ta symperasmata. H astynomia den ekane tipota 11 mhnes.\nANTWNAROS: Kanete megalo laqos. Adikeite thn Ellhnikh Astynomia. Deixnete na mhn exete gnwsh ths leptomereiakhs kai se baqos doyleias poy egine aytoys oloys toys mhnes.\nBLAXOS: Giati den mas thn apokalycate toso kairo kai perimenate na bgei to porisma ths ADAE;\nANTWNAROS: Ma, sas to exoyme pei para polles fores.\nSARANTAKOS: Exw mia erwthsh kai qelw mia dieykrinish. Prwton, qewrei h kybernhsh oti egine parembash sto qema to opoio brisketai se ejelijh -ayto to opoio exete xarakthrisei kai eseis ``egklhma kata ths kybernhshs''- apo th mhtrikh etaireia ths Vodafone anabaqmizontas ton k. Korwnia paramonh ths kataqeshs toy sthn Epitroph ths Boylhs;\nANTWNAROS: Den mas apasxoloyn oi eswterikes diergasies se epixeirhseis.\nSARANTAKOS: Kai mia dieykrinish: Moy eipate prohgoymenws otan sas rwthsa gia thn ADAE, gia to an exete metaniwsei poy den thn emplejate, den ths anaqesate thn ereyna ayth, oti yphrxan qesmikoi paragontes poy eneplakhsan apo thn prwth stigmh. Qewreite dhladh, oti alloi endexomenws qesmikoi paragontes qa eprepe na eixan enhmerwsei thn ADAE apo thn prwth stigmh; H Dikaiosynh, as poyme;\nANTWNAROS: Anaferqhka stoys treis pylwnes ths Dhmokratias mas, pws leitoyrgoyn kai toys diakritoys logoys poy exei o kaqenas apo aytoys.\nMPOTSARAKOS: To eylogo erwthma einai, giati afoy h kybernhsh yphrje qyma ypoklopwn poy eginan apo thn etaireia Vodafone, asxeta me to poses mporei na einai oi eyqynes ths -prwton ayto- kai deyteron, afoy apodeiknyetai ek twn ysterwn apo to porisma ths ADAE oti apekryce stoixeia o k. Korwnias, to erwthma loipon einai giati h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos poy exoyn to nomimo dikaiwma, den zhtoyn th diwjh toy k. Korwnia; An kapoios poliths eixe to dikaiwma ayto qa mporoyse na to askhsei. O Prwqypoyrgos -h h kybernhsh- skeftetai na to askhsei;\nANTWNAROS: Dioti h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos fysika, o opoios einai h koryfh ths kybernhshs, exoyn apolyth empistosynh sth Dikaiosynh.\nSPYRAKH: Eilikrina den exw katanohsei se poion ofeiletai to gegonos oti amesws meta thn apokalych toy zhthmatos twn ypoklopwn, den yphrje prosfygh ths armodias etaireias sthn ADAE. To erwthma einai aplo: Paranomhse h etaireia h opoia ofeile na apologhqei kai na to qesei to qema yp` ocin ths armodias arxhs h elabe systaseis o k. Korwnias apo thn kybernhsh na krathsei to qema se ena steno kyklo gnwrizontwn;\nANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw pws katalhgete s` aytes tis ypoqeseis. Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora: Ayto poy endiaferei thn kybernhsh einai na bgei olh h alhqeia sto fws. Kai sas epanalambanw kati poy exei pei kai o k. Roysopoylos s` ayth thn aiqoysa: H kybernhsh qa einai h prwth poy qa xarei na bgei olh h alhqeia sto fws, kaqoson h kybernhsh kai prwta ap` ola o Prwqypoyrgos htan qyma ayths ths aqlias ypoqeshs twn ypoklopwn.\nSPYRAKH: Allo sas rwthsa. Sas rwthsa poios eyqynetai poy h etaireia Vodafone den prosefyge sthn ADAE, ws ofeile nomika. Einai me prwtoboylia ths etaireias h h etaireia phre systaseis apo thn kybernhsh;\nANTWNAROS: Kai sas apanthsa, oti h kybernhsh den exei kamia anameijh s` ayto to qema.\nSIDERHS: Mas lete synexeia oti h kybernhsh qelei na xyqei apleto fws. Pws mas to apodeiknyete; Giati ek ths qesews mas ofeiloyme na eimaste kakopistoi kai na poyme oti h 11mhnh abelthria shmainei pws qelate na to koykoylwsete. Eidate oti den koykoylwnetai giati yphrxe kai enas qanatos kai anagkasthkate na to bgalete. To deytero, epimenete oti prajate swsta otan oi@\nSIDERHS: Wraia. Pws mas peiqete oti qelete na xyqei apleto fws; H 11mhnh abelthria allo deixnei.\nANTWNAROS: Ejakoloyqeite kai milate, kakopista dystyxws, gia 11mhnh abelthria. Profanws den qelete na antilhfqeite ayto to opoio sas eipa. Oti gia 11 mhnes ginotan se baqos, katarxas apo tis astynomikes arxes opws orizei to nomiko systhma ths xwras mas, mia ereyna leptomereiakh. Katopin to qema phge sth Dikaiosynh. Teleiwse to prwto stadio ths dikastikhs ereynas @as mhn mpoyme se nomikes orologies- kai synexizetai ayth th stigmh h taktikh anakrish. H Dikaiosynh, opws gnwrizete, exei ryqmoys sygkekrimenoys me toys opoioys leitoyrgei, oxi mono sthn Ellada, alla se olo ton kosmo.\nSIDERHS: Epilambanetai h Dikaiosynh kai to maqainoyn treis Ypoyrgoi kai mas lene osa mas eipane. Kai erxetai h ADAE kai bgazei perissotera. Qa elegxqei h Dikaiosynh apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo giati ebgale ellipeis parathrhseis, elliph symperasmata.\nANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora: H Dikaiosynh ejakoloyqei na kanei thn ereyna. Parallhla kanei allh ereyna h ADAE. Den qelete na ginetai ayth h ereyna;\nKAKALHS: O k. Korwnias prin apo ena mhna sthn ADAE, feretai na eixe dhlwsei oti ``enhrghsa symfwna me tis ypodeijeis ths kybernhshs''. Ayto an mh ti allo -to opoio den to diaceysate kai den qa mporoyse na to pei ayqaireta, fantazomai- den deixnei an mh ti allo mia synennohsh me thn kybernhsh, an oxi sygkalych;\nANTWNAROS: ``Sygkalych'' se ti;\nKAKALHS: Sto na mh bgei, profanws, h alhqeia gia tis ypoklopes pote sto fws.\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh -to epanalambanw gia pollosth fora- ypogrammizei oti epiqymei na xyqei apleto fws sto sygkekrimeno qema. Isxyrismoi diaforwn pleyrwn peri toy antiqetoy den exoyn kamia apolytws bash.\nKAKALHS: Ayto poy eipate, to epixeirhma oti h kybernhsh qelei na lamcei h alhqeia giati einai to qyma twn ypoklopwn@\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh edwse sth dhmosiothta ta stoixeia, mhn to jexnate ayto.\nKAKALHS: O k. Karamanlhs eipe, nomizw, oti ta edwse o k. Korwnias.\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh edwse ta stoixeia sth dhmosiothta, molis perihlqan se gnwsh ths kai oloklhrwqhke, opws problepetai apo to nomo, h prokatarktikh ejetash.\nKAKALHS: Gia to epixeirhma poy lete oti eiste to mono qyma, apo to porisma ths ADAE prokyptei oti o ariqmos ths listas twn thlefwnwn poy parakoloyqoyntan einai aprosdioristos. Ara katarreei to epixeirhma oti h kybernhsh htan to mono qyma se ayth thn istoria.\nGALIATSATOS: Mas eipate oti sth diarkeia twn 11 mhnwn egine mia leptomerhs ereyna apo thn pleyra ths astynomias. Egw erwtw: Sth diarkeia ayths ths leptomeroys ereynas apo thn pleyra ths astynomias, eklhqhsan kapoioi eidikoi, oxi h ADAE aparaithtws, na kanoyn ayto to pragma to opoio eprepe na ginei. Na janabaloyn to paranomo logismiko mesa, to opoio htan apoqhkeymeno se backup sth Vodafone, na to trejoyn kai na doyn tis parametroys toy systhmatos. Ayto egine sth diarkeia ths 11mhnhes ereynas h den egine kaqoloy;\nANTWNAROS: Apo thn arxh exoyme pei -kai s` ayto symfwnoyn oles oi pleyres- oti me thn apenergopoihsh toy systhmatos xaqhkan polytima stoixeia. Den qa ejyphretoyse se tipote kai den qelw na mpw se texnikes leptomereies tis opoies kai den gnwrizw. Den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw, sas to lew ayto eyqarsws kai eilikrinws gia texnikes leptomereies. Alla, ean den eixe apenergopoihqei to systhma -kai ayto einai to krisimo shmeio- endexomenws qa eixame ki alla prosqeta stoixeia.\nBLAXOS: Ayth h energeia apotelei sygkalych twn ypoklopwn;\nANTWNAROS: Eimai safestatos s` ayta ta opoia lew.\nGALIATSATOS: Egw rwtaw kati allo. An kapoia stigmh sth diarkeia ths 11mhnhs ereynas h kybernhsh epediwje mia anaparastash ths istorias, apla kai mono gia na tekmhriwsei oti ayta poy ths elege h Vodafone htan alhqh h oxi. Oxi gia na brei toys enoxoys efoson den mporoyse na toys brei logw ths apomakrynshs toy logismikoy. An me bash ta texnika dedomena kai me bash ta texnika dedomena doylece kai h ADAE tis teleytaies 15 meres, janabalei mprosta to systhma, dokimasei na tsekarei ayta poy ths elege h Vodafone. Epixeirhse ayto to pragma h kybernhsh;\nANTWNAROS: Eimai bebaios oti oi astynomikes kai dikastikes arxes ekanan o,ti eprepe na kanoyn prokeimenoy na katalhjoyn sta stoixeia poy apaitoyntai gia th dialeykansh ths ypoqeshs.\nKORAH: An moy epitrepete, egw den exw katalabei poy exei katalhjei oyte h Dikaiosynh, oyte h Ellhnikh Astynomia aytoys toy 11 mhnes. Poy katelhjan aytes oi ereynes;\nANTWNAROS: H ereyna -ayto einai to shmantiko- den exei oloklhrwqei akoma.\nKORAH: Oi treis Ypoyrgoi sth synenteyjh Typoy, anaferqhkan sta stoixeia poy toys eixe dwsei 11 mhnes prin@\nANTWNAROS: Oxi. Kanete laqos.\nKORAH: Poia htan ta prosqeta stoixeia; Gia peste moy.\nANTWNAROS: Oi Ypoyrgoi anaferqhkan kai se stoixeia poy eixan prokycei sto metajy apo thn prokatarktikh ejetash h opoia egine.\nKORAH: To oti h aytoktonia, as poyme@\nANTWNAROS: Den mporw ayth th stigmh na gyrisw@\nKORAH: Exw sygkekrimeno erwthma.\nANTWNAROS: Den mporw na gyrisw kai na sas kanw anaparastash ths synenteyjhs Typoy poy krathse 2,5 wres.\nKORAH: Den eipwqhke tipota. Tria pragmata eipan@\nANTWNAROS: Oxi, eipwqhkan para polla. Me sygxwreite alla diabaste ton Typo ths epomenhs hmeras@\nKORAH: Hmoyn paroysa kyrie Ekproswpe.\nANTWNAROS: Qa sas parakaloysa na diabasete ayta poy grafthkan thn epomenh mera ston Typo.\nKORAH: Ta exw diabasei ola. Mporw na kanw thn erwthsh moy twra;\nKORAH: H Ellhnikh Astynomia thn opoia exete epainesei para poly, eixe katalhjei sto symperasma oti h aytoktonia toy Tsalikidh den syndeetai me tis ypoklopes, otan ola ta stoixeia ta opoia proekycan sth synexeia, th syndeoyn amesa. Gia poia epityxia milame kai gia poio apotelesma ereynwn; Ayto einai to diko moy erwthma.\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti egine mia prokatarktikh ereyna h opoia oloklhrwqhke. H prokatarktikh ereyna sto stadio ths diereynhshs mias ypoqeshs einai ena kommati ths synolikhs ereynas. Twra briskomaste sto epomeno bhma poy einai h taktikh anakrish. Ayto synexizetai.\nKORAH: Kai h teleytaia moy erwthsh: O prwhn Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs, meta apo 5 hmeres milwntas sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias, anadiplwqhke, phre pisw mexris enos baqmoy th dhlwsh poy ekane sth synenteyjh Typoy oti h etaireia edeije ypeyqynh stash, oti an hqele qa mporoyse na apokrycei to qema kai na mhn to maqei h kybernhsh. H dieykrinish poy ekane htan oti den perimene na parei ayth toy h dhlwsh tis diastaseis poy phre kai poy eylogws phre. Shmera, loipon, poy exoyn apokalyfqei perissotera stoixeia, qa bgei o k. Boylgarakhs na zhthsei mia syggnwmh gi` ayto poy eipe;\nANTWNAROS: O k. Boylgarakhs exei kanei dieykrinistikes dhlwseis meta th synenteyjh Typoy.\nKORAH: Sto idio pneyma kyrie Ekproswpe.\nANTWNAROS: Apanthsa gi` ayto to qema pro oligoy.\nSARANTAKOS: Me dedomeno loipon opws prokyptei apo to porisma ths ADAE h kybernhsh fainetai na mhn einai kai to mono qyma twn ypoklopwn, giati einai aprosdioristos o ariqmos twn ypoklopwn poy eginan. Skeftetai h kybernhsh na enhmerwsei kai toys arxhgoys twn ypoloipwn kommatwn, thn k. Paparhga, ton k. Alabano gia ta stoixeia ths ereynas. Giati einai pi8anon den jerw an parakoloyqoyntai kai oi idioi h o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs, an oxi o idios o k. Karamanlhs.\nANTWNAROS: Katarxas, metaferete stoixeia apo to porisma ta opoia den perilambanontai se ayto.\nSARANTAKOS: Mila gia aprosdioristo ariqmo thlefwnikwn ypoklopwn to porisma;\nANTWNAROS: As mhn parafrazoyme epishma keimena\nKORAH: Einai 67, den einai liga ta noymera. Egine kapoia ereyna;\nANTWNAROS: Ta kommata ths Antipoliteyshs, opws gnwrizete, enhmerwnontai synexws. Allwste gi@ ayto kai shmera synedriazei h Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs, h opoia exei th dynatothta na enhmerwnetai se baqos.\nBLAXOS: Sthn arxh ths shmerinhs sas enhmerwshs milhsate gia qema ajiopistias kai skopimothtas pisw apo thn kinhsh Korwnia, na mhn gnwstopoihsei sthn kybernhsh to trito kentro parakoloyqhshs. Pisteyete sthn skopimothta poy ejyphretei ayth h apokrych toy qematos apo ton k. Korwnia.\nANTWNAROS: Qa sas diabasw ti akribws eipa: Apo th koinopoihsh ths ypoqeshs sthn kybernhsh apo to dieyqynonta symboylo ths etaireias eleipe to basiko stoixeio sxetika me to trito kentro parakoloyqhshs. Me oti ayto mporei na shmainei gia thn ajiopistia kai tis skopimothtes poy ypokryptontai pisw apo ayth thn kinhsh.\nBLAXOS: Ti ypokryptetai pisteyete;\nANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na ermhneysw ton eayto moy. Oti eixa na pw to eipa.\nBLAXOS: Stis 10 Martioy 8 to brady emfanizetai sto Megaro Majimoy o k. Korwnias kai mprosta ston k. Aggeloy kai ton k. Boylgarakh, tote Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs apokalyptei oti ena systhma parakoloyqhshs parakoloyqoyse ton Prwqypoyrgo, th mish kybernhsh kai polloys alloys polites. Deka lepta argotera o armodios Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs o k. Boylgarakhs, leei me sygxwreite kyrioi exw mia aneilhmmenh politikh ypoxrewsh, prepei na paw kapoy na milhsw kai apoxwrhse. Ayto to eipe o k.Boylgarakhs, einai katagegrammeno sta apomagnhtofwnhmena praktika ths synedriashs ths Epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs, opoy milhse o k. Boylgarakhs.\nANTWNAROS: Ti qelete na peite me ayto;\nBLAXOS: Qelw na moy sxoliasete to gegonos.\nANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. O armodios Ypoyrgos enhmerwqhke.\nBLAXOS: Meta apo 10 lepta efyge kai toy steilane to katalogo me ta onomata stis 01.30 to brady.\nANTWNAROS: Exete qesei epaneilhmmenws thn idia erwthsh sthn aiqoysa. Exete parei apanthsh. Ginetai merikes fores kai bareth ayth h epanalhch.\nBLAXOS: Ayto den to exw janarwthsei einai h prwth fora poy to rwtaw.\nANTWNAROS: Exete janarwthsei to idio akribws pragma. Exw kalh mnhmh.\nMPOTSARAKOS: Gia th kybernhsh yparxoyn polites prwths kai deyterhs kathgorias; Yparxei logos poy to rwtaw ayto. Yparxoyn stoixeia symfwna me ta opoia o k. Korwnias eixe apokrycei stoixeia ths ereynas toy egklhmatos twn ypoklopwn. Giati opws o opoiosdhpote allos poliths den exei kinhqei h diadikasia enantion toy apo thn dikaiosynh efoson yparxoyn stoixeia oti diepraje paranomh prajh.\nANTWNAROS: Dioti sas ejhghsa oti h taktikh anakrish brisketai se ejelijh. Den perhfaneyomai gia tis nomikes moy gnwseis, alla orismena basika pragmata qa prepei na ta jerei kaneis.\nGALIATSATOS: Qymamai ton k. Boylgarakh sthn diplanh aiqoysa na mas leei oti mas phre para poly wra na katalaboyme th fysh ths ypoqeshs, giati htan texnika kai den ta katalabainame. Ta para polla einai deka lepta;\nANTWNAROS: Den jerw na sas pw ti ennoei o kaqenas me th frash ``para pollh wra''.\nKAKALHS: Eipate oti me thn apenergopoihsh toy systhmatos xaqhkan polytima stoixeia. Exei parei peistikes apanthseis h kybernhsh apo th Vodafone giati apenergopoihse to systhma. Exei peistei apo tis apanthseis poy exei dwsei;\nANTWNAROS: Ejakoloyqeite kai rwtate thn kybernhsh. Thn ereyna den th diejagei h kybernhsh. H ereyna se baqos exei paei sth Dikaiosynh. H kybernhsh enhmerwqhke ekeino to sygkekrimeno brady oti eixe apenergopoihqei to systhma liges hmeres prin. Sas eipa oti an den eixe apenergopoihqei to systhma, einai piqanon na eixan breqei perissotera stoixeia. Den kanei h kybernhsh thn ereyna. Sygxeete pragmata poy den exoyn kamia sxesh metajy toys.\nBLAXOS: H kinhsh na kleisei to logismiko einai sygkalych twn ypoklopwn h oxi;\nANTWNAROS: Den eimai dikastikos leitoyrgos, wste na apodwsw eyqynes.\nBLAXOS: Politika ennow.\nANTWNAROS: Den eimai dikastikos leitoyrgos gia na ekferw gnwmh.\nSIDERHS: Mia texnikh erwthsh. Den qa thn eixa kanei se esas alla pali antifaskoyn ta pragmata. Eipate oti katastrafhke to logismiko.\nANTWNAROS: Den sas eipa egw oti katastrafhke to logismiko. Egw sas eipa oti eixe apenergopoihqei to sygkekrimeno systhma.\nSIDERHS: Apotypwqhke se magnhtika mesa h oxi;\nANTWNAROS: Apanthsa. Ekana eisagwgikh dhlwsh.\nKORAH: O dieyqynths toy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy o k. Giannhs Aggeloy exei to dikaiwma na mhn emfanistei sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias na kataqesei kai th dikh toy apoch kai na apanthsei stis erwthseis twn boyleytwn otan o idios o prwqypoyrgos exei pei ``ola sto fws''.\nANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn oi apanthseis poy edwsa xqes gia to sygkekrimeno qema.\nKORAH: Eipate oti den exw na sas pw tipota\nANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati. Einai mia koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.\nBLAXOS: O k. Korwnias exei idiaiterh symperifora apo tis arxes toy topoy se sxesh me alloys polites;\nANTWNAROS: Ayth h erwthsh moy exei ypoblhqei shmera polles fores.\nBLAXOS: To anaferw ayto gia ena aplo logo, dioti o k. Korwnias shmera emfanisthke sthn Boylh. Den mphke apo thn kentrikh eisodo opws mpainoyn oloi oi polites. Den phre kartelaki. Phge sto ypogeio me to aytokinhto toy kai anebhke sto prwto orofo toy Koinoboylioy xwris na ginei kanenas elegxos kai xwris na ginoyn oi typikes diadikasies.\nANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sth Boylh gia tetoioy eidoys diadikastikes leptomereies.\nGALIATSATOS: Pote enhmerwqhke h kybernhsh apo ton k. Korwnia gia tis ypoklopes.\nANTWNAROS: Ayth th stigmh den exw proxeira ta stoixeia. Isxyoyn osa sas eipan oi Ypoyrgoi th sygkekrimenh ekeinh mera.\nGALIATSATOS: 10 Martioy loipon.\nANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn ayta poy sas eipe h kybernhsh ekeinh th sygkekrimenh hmera.\nMPOTSARAKOS: Den isxyoyn ayta poy eipe h kybernhsh ekeinh th mera, giati prokyptoyn nea stoixeia poy edwse o k. Korwnias.\nANTWNAROS: O k. Galiatsatos moy ekane sygkekrimenh erwthsh: Me rwthse pote enhmerwqhke h kybernhsh apo ton k. Korwnia. Eipa oti isxyoyn osa eipe h kybernhsh th sygkekrimenh hmera gia to sygkekrimeno qema.\nMPOTSARAKOS: Me bash ta osa eipe o k. Korwnias sthn kybernhsh omws. Dioti apo to porisma ths ADAE@\nANTWNAROS: Katalabate ti me rwthse o k. Galiatsatos;\nMPOTSARAKOS: Katalaba poly kala.\nANTWNAROS: Me rwthse pote enhmerwqhke h kybernhsh apo ton k. Korwnia. Oi treis Ypoyrgoi aneferan sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia. Ayth h hmeromhnia isxyei.\nPAPADHMHTRIOY: Gia to porisma ths ADAE, o Prwqypoyrgos pote enhmerwqhke;\nBLAXOS: Qa hqela na moy apanthsete ti problepei o ellhnikos nomos gi` ayton poy metexei se ypoklopes thlefwnwn allwn politwn, opws einai o Prwqypoyrgos kai ti problepei gi` ayton o opoios didei to oikhma toy, tis egkatastaseis toy gia na ginei ayth h ypokloph.\nANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite se egkritoys nomikoys, wste na sas dwsoyn apanthseis.\nBLAXOS: Den exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh mexri twra;\nANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite se egkritoys nomikoys gia na sas dwsoyn apanthseis. Egw den dinw nomikes apanthseis tetoioy eidoys, se ayth edw thn aiqoysa.\nBLAXOS: Ayto shmainei omws oti den exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh ti poines prepei na epiballontai.\nANTWNAROS: Sxolia, symperasmata, analyseis, mporeite na kanete ekei opoy ergazeste. Egw den qa sas kanw maqhmata poinikhs dikonomias kai poinikoy kwdika se ayth thn aiqoysa.\nBLAXOS: To anaferw ayto giati sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias o armodios Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Papalhgoyras, exei anaferqei onomastika ston k. Korwnia kai sthn etaireia Vodafone, legontas oti einai adiamfisbhthtes oi eyqynes toys.\nANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Isxyei osa exoyn pei oi Ypoyrgoi.\nKORAH: H kybernhsh exei zhthsei apo thn ADAE, h den jerw apo kapoion allon forea, giati pragmatika den jerw pws leitoyrgei h olh diadikasia, analysh gi` ayta ta 67 noymera poy parakoloyqoyse to trito kai agnwsto pros esas mexri xqes kentro ypoklophs; An prokeitai dhladh, gia kapoia kainoyria noymera thlefwnwn h gia ta yparxonta poy aplws ta parakoloyqoyse kai ayto to kentro.\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den einai ayth h opoia diejagei thn ereyna. Den einai o rolo ths na zhthsei h na ypodeijei se mia arxh ti na kanei h ti prepei na kanei. Thn ereyna th diejagei h Dikaiosynh. Parallhla h anejarthth arxh kanei mia allh dikh ths ereyna. Alimono an oi arxes den mporoysan na kanoyn thn ereyna thn opoia prepei na kanoyn me ola ta stoixeia.\nKORAH: Einai kako na pei h kybernhsh kai ena mea culpa; Dioti 11 mhnes epedeije ayth thn oligwria;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den epedeije kamia apolytws oligwria. H kybernhsh thn prwth hmera poy hrqe ayto to qema se gnwsh ths, to parepemce sth Dikaiosynh, opws eixe qesmikh ypoxrewsh.\nKORAH: Ti empodise parallhla na apeyqynqei kai sthn ADAE;\nANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. H kybernhsh ekane to qesmiko ths kaqhkon. Einai poly safes ayto to opoio lew.\nKORAH: Qesmiko organo, anejarthth arxh (den akoygetai) @\nANTWNAROS: Se ena syntetagmeno kratos leitoyrgoyn kai efarmozontai oi nomoi opws aytoi exoyn chfistei apo to Koinoboylio.\nBLAXOS: Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh pws efarmozontai oi nomoi poy exoyn chfistei gia to qema twn ypoklopwn;\nANTWNAROS: Apo palaiotatwn xronwn ginontai egklhmata h alles paranomes prajeis. Oi nomoi einai gia na prostateyoyn toys polites apo tis paranomes prajeis kai na odhgoyn sth Dikaiosynh aytoys oi opoioi kanoyn paranomes prajeis. Ayto den shmainei oti epeidh yparxoyn nomoi oi opoioi efarmozontai, qa stamathsoyn na ginontai paranomes prajeis.\nBLAXOS: Exei odhghqei kanenas loipon sth Dikaiosynh apo toys emplekomenoys tosoys mhnes;\nANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti h dikastikh ereyna den exei katalhjei. Einai se ejelijh.\nBLAXOS: Ayto na to eklabw ws ypainigmo oti h Dikaiosynh den kanei swsta kai grhgora th doyleia ths;\nANTWNAROS: Na mhn to eklabete ws kanenan ypainigmo. H Dikaiosynh kanei th doyleia ths kai h dikastikh ereyna brisketai se ejelijh.\nBLAXOS: Yparxei xroniko orio poy qa teleiwsei ayth h ereyna h qa paei kanadyo xronia;\nANTWNAROS: Kyrie Kyritsh, qelate na rwthsete kati gia kapoio allo qema;\nKYRITSHS: Diabasa, xqes, sthn efhmerida ``EQNOS'' oti to INTELLIGENCE UNIT toy ECONOMIST exei kanei mia problech, basei ths opoias einai poly piqano h kybernhsh na paei se prowres ekloges, eite logw problhmatwn me thn Toyrkia, eite logw problhmatwn sta Balkania. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs panw se ayto.\nANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kanena tetoio qema. Allwste, aytes oi ereynes ginontai apo diaforoys anejarthtoys organismoys, oi opoioi kata kairoys ekponoyn ekqeseis gia diafores xwres, metajy twn opoiwn kai gia th dikh mas. Oi ekqeseis aytes den apoteloyn, bebaiws, epishmes qeseis twn kybernhsewn.\nBLAXOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti kapoios symboylece ton k. Karamanlh kai anakoinwse sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai ton ellhniko lao oti meiwnetai h anergia, enw 24 wres argotera apokalyfthke apo stoixeia toy OAED oti oi apolyseis htan perissoteres apo tis proslhceis to 2005.\nANTWNAROS: Prwton, se kaqe periptwsh, ajiopisth eikona gia thn poreia ths apasxolhshs kai ths anergias sth xwra, symfwna me tis prodiagrafes ths EUROSTAT, dinei mono h Eqnikh Statistikh Yphresia. Symfwna me thn teleytaia ereyna ergatikoy dynamikoy ths Eqnikhs Statistikhs Yphresias, gia to trito trimhno toy 2005, to pososto anergias brisketai sto 9,7%, enanti 11,3% to prwto trimhno toy 2004. Enw o ariqmos twn apasxoloymenwn einai 4.386.000, o megalyteros ariqmos apasxoloymenwn poy exei parathrhqei pote sth xwra mas. Deyteron, genikotera ta stoixeia proslhcewn, kataggeliwn symbashs, oikeioqelwn apoxwrhsewn, prepei na antimetwpizontai me epifylajh kai na tygxanoyn peraiterw epejergasias, kaqws: Prwton, mexri shmera ta stoixeia ayta kataxwroyntai me mh mhxanografiko tropo. Deyteron, perilambanontai kai oi periptwseis syntajiodothsewn -ayjhmenes to 2006- me apotelesma h prokyptoysa ``apwleia qesewn ergasias'' na einai plasmatikh. Triton, asfalh symperasmata qa mporoyn na ejaxqoyn toys epomenoys mhnes, otan qa teqei se plhrh leitoyrgia to hlektroniko systhma kataxwrhshs proslhcewn, kataggeliwn symbashs, oikeioqelwn apoxwrhsewn poy qa diasyndeei ta stoixeia toy OAED, toy IKA kai toy Swmatos Epiqewrhshs Ergasia. Kai telos, yphrxe typografiko laqos stis oikeioqeleis apoxwrhseis toy Febroyarioy 2005. Eixe anagrafei o ariqmos 37.924 anti toy orqoy 24.318. Synepws, to isozygio einai qetiko kata 7.783 qeseis.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Thursday, 9 March 2006 - 16:05:29 UTC


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url: =Ellhniko Linux Partition HOWTO: Ti katatmhseis xreiazomai;\n3. Ti katatmhseis xreiazomai;\n3.1 Poses katatmhseis xreiazomai;\nWraia, poses katatmhseis xreiazeste dhladh; Loipon, merika leitoyrgika systhmata de 8eloyn na jekinoun apo logikes katatmhseis gia logoys poy jefeugoyn ths logikhs. Etsi, pi8ana na 8elete na krathsete tis prwtarxikes katatmhseis sas gia thn ekkinhsh twn MS-DOS, OS/2 kai Linux h otidhpote allo xrhsimopoieite. 8ymh8eite oti mia prwtarxikh katatmhsh xreiazetai gia na ginei ektetamenh, wste na dra san doxeio gia tis logikes katatmhseis toy diskoy sas.\nH ekkinhsh leitoyrgikwn systhmatwn perilambanei to BIOS kai toys periorismous twn 1024 kylindrwn. Etsi, mallon 8a 8elete na balete oles tis katatmhseis ekkinhshs stoys prwtoys 1024 kylindroys toy diskoy sas, wste na apofugete ta problhmata. 3ana, diabaste to "large-disk" mini-howto, gia perissoteres leptomereies.\nGia na egkatasthsete to Linux, 8a xreiasteite toylaxiston mia katatmhsh. Ean o pyrhnas fortwnetai apo aythn thn katatmhsh (gia paradeigma apo to LILO), h katatmhsh ayth prepei na diabazetai apo to BIOS. Ean xrhsimopoieite alla mesa gia na fortwsete ton pyrhna (apo disketa ekkinhshs h me to LOADLIN.EXE mesw toy MS-DOS) h katatmhsh mporei na einai opoydhpote. Se opoiadhpote periptwsh, h katatmhsh 8a einai tupoy 0x83 "Linux native".\nTo susthma sas 8a xreiastei kai xwro enallaghs. Ektos ean xrhsimopoieite arxeia ws xwro enallaghs, 8a xreiasteite mia katatmhsh afierwmenh gia ayth th doyleia. Efoson h katatmhsh ayth xrhsimopoieitai apo ton pyrhna toy Linux kai o pyrhnas den exei tis adynamies toy BIOS, h katatmhsh ayth mporei na brisketai opoydhpote sto disko. Systhnw na xrhsimopoihsete mia logikh katatmhsh (/dev/?d?5 h megaluterh). Oi katatmhseis afierwmenes ws xwros enallaghs einai tupoy 0x82 "Linux swap".\nAytes einai oi elaxistes apaithseis. 8a htan xrhsimo na dhmioyrghsete perissoteres katatmhseis gia to Linux. Diabaste parakatw.\n3.2 Poso megalos prepei na einai o xwros enallaghs;\nEan apofasisate na xrhsimopoihsete mia katatmhsh ws xwro enallaghs, poy genika einai Kalh Idea, akoloy8hste tis parakatw odhgies gia na ypologisete to mege8os ths:\nSto Linux, h mnhmh RAM kai o xwros enallaghs xrhsimopoiountai ws to sunolo ths eikonikhs mnhmhs poy einai dia8esimh (kati poy den einai alh8eia gia ola ta Unix). Gia paradeigma an exete 8MB RAM kai 12MB xwro enallaghs, exete ena sunolo peripoy 20MB eikonikhs mnhmhs.\nOtan ka8orizete to mege8os toy xwroy enallaghs, 8a prepei na exete peripoy 16MB eikonikhs mnhmhs synolika. Etsi, gia 4MB RAM 8a xreiasteite toylaxiston 12MB ws xwro enallaghs, gia 8MB RAM 8a xreiasteite toylaxiston 8MB xwro enallaghs kok.\nSto Linux, mia katatmhsh enallaghs de mporei na einai megaluterh apo 128MB. Dhladh, h katatmhsh mporei na einai megaluterh apo 128MB, alla o parapanw xwros de xrhsimopoieitai pote. Ean 8elete parapanw apo 128MB xwroy enallaghs, 8a xreiasteite pollaples katatmhseis.\nOtan dhmioyrgeite ton xwro enallaghs, 8ymh8eite oti polus xwros mporei na einai kai axrhstos. Ka8e diergasia exei ena "sunolo ergasias". Ayto to sunolo selidwn sth mnhmh 8a xrhsimopoih8ei apo ton epejergasth sto suntomo mellon. To Linux prospa8ei na problecei thn prosbash sth mnhmh (ypo8etontas oti oi teleytaia xrhsimopoihmenes selides 8a xrhsimopoih8oun jana suntoma) kai krata aytes tis selides sth RAM an einai dynaton. Ean to programma exei kalh "topikothta anaforas" h ypo8esh ayth 8a einai swsth kai o algori8mos problechs 8a doylecei. To na krath8ei to sunolo ergasias sth mnhmh doyleuei mono ean yparxei arketh mnhmh RAM. Ean exete polles diergasies na trexoyn se ena mhxanhma, o pyrhnas anagkazetai na bazei selides ston disko poy 8a tis xrhsimopoihsei suntoma (anagkazontas thn ejodo mias selidas apo allo sunolo ergasias kai thn eisagwgh ths selidas poy zhteitai). Ayto synh8ws katalhgei se baria enallagh selidwn kai katakoryfh ptwsh ths apodoshs. Ena mhxanhma se ayth thn katastash legetai oti kanei "thrashing". Se ena tetoio mhxanhma oi diergasies trexoyn sthn oysia apo ton disko anti ths RAM. Etsi h apodosh peftei peripoy oso h sxesh metaju ths taxuthtas prosbashs mnhmhs kai ths taxuthtas prosbashs toy diskoy. Enas palios kanonas apo tis meres toy PDP kai toy Vax leei oti to sunolo ergasias enos programmatos einai to 25% toy eikonikou toy mege8oys. Gia ayto einai mallon askopo na exete xwro enallaghs megalutero apo treis fores to mege8os ths RAM. Prosejte omws oti aytos einai enas aplos kanonas. Einai eukolo na dhmioyrgh8oun senaria opoy programmata exoyn ejairetika megala h mikra sunola ergasias. Gia paradeigma ena programma ejomoiwshs exei megala sunola dedomenwn poy prosballontai tyxaia kai xwris kamia topikothta, etsi to sunolo ergasias einai polu megalo. Apo thn allh, to xv me arketa anoixta JPEG arxeia 8a exei ena polu megalo sunolo dedomenwn. Omws oi metasxhmatismoi 8a ginontai se ena mono arxeio, opote h perissoterh mnhmh poy katalambanetai apo to xv den prosballetai pote. To idio isxuei kai me enan epejergasth keimenoy me polla anoixta eggrafa, alla mono ena na dior8wnetai. Etsi, ta programmata ayta - an exoyn sxediastei swsta - exoyn polu megalh topikothta kai megala tmhmata toys mporoun na krath8oun sto xwro enallaghs xwris megalh ptwsh taxuthtas. 8a perimene kaneis oti to 25% apo thn epoxh ths grammhs entolwn de 8a einai swsto stis meres twn grafikwn periballontwn kai pollaplwn eggrafwn, alla den jerw gia nees meletes poy epibebaiwnoyn ayta ta noumera.\nEtsi gia ena susthma me 16MB RAM, xwros enallaghs de xreiazetai gia mia elaxisth diamorfwsh kai panw apo 48MB einai mallon axrhsta. To akribes poso mnhmhs ejartatai apo to migma twn efarmogwn sto mhxanhma (ti perimenate;).\n3.3 Pou prepei na balw to xwro enallaghs;\nTa mhxanika einai arga, ta hlektronika einai grhgora. Oi monternoi diskoi exoyn polles kefales. H metabash metaju kefalwn sto idio aylaki einai grhgorh, afou einai ka8ara hlektronikh. H metabash metaju aylakiwn einai argh, afou apaitei th metakinhsh fysikwn antikeimenwn. Etsi an exete ena disko me polles kefales kai enan me ligoteres me idies tis alles parametroys toys, o diskos me tis perissoteres kefales 8a einai grhgoroteros. Parola ayta, to na xwrisete to xwro enallaghs kai na ton moirasete stoys dyo diskoys 8a einai akoma grhgorotero.\nOi palioteroi diskoi exoyn ton idio ari8mo tomewn se ola ta aylakia. Me aytous toys diskoys 8a einai pio grhgoro na balete to xwro enallaghs sth mesh toy diskoy, ypo8etontas oti h kefalh toy diskoy 8a kinh8ei apo mia tyxaia perioxh pros to xwro enallaghs.\nOi neoteroi diskoi xrhsimopoioun ZBR (zone bit recording). Exoyn perissoteroys tomeis sta ejwterika aylakia. Me sta8ero ry8mo peristrofhs, ayto dinei shmantika ayjhmenh apodosh sta ejwterika aylakia se sxesh me ta eswterika. Balte to xwro enallaghs sta ejwterika aylakia.\nFysika h kefalh toy diskoy de 8a kineitai tyxaia. Ean exete to xwro enallaghs sth mesoy toy diskoy, metaju mias polyasxolhs katatmhshs home kai mias sxedon axrhsimopoihths katatmhshs arxeioy, 8a htan kalutera na to balete sth mesh ths katatmhshs home, gia akoma mikroteres kinhseis ths kefalhs. Fysika 8a htan kalutera an eixate to xwro enallaghs se enan allo axrhsimopoihto disko.\nPerilhch: Balte to xwro enallaghs se ena grhgoro disko me polles kefales poy den kanei alles doyleies. Ean exete pollous diskoys: moiraste to kai skorpiste to se oloys toys diskoys h akomh kai se diaforetikous elegktes.\nAkomh kalutera: Agoraste perissoterh RAM.\n3.4 Merika gegonota gia ta systhmata arxeiwn kai ton katakermatismo\nO xwros sto disko diaxeirizetai apo to leitoyrgiko susthma se monades kai tmhmata enothtwn (blocks). Sto ext2, ta tmhmata kai oi enothtes prepei na exoyn to idio mege8os, opote mporoume na periorisoyme th syzhthsh mas stis enothtes.\nTa arxeia erxontai se opoiodhpote mege8os. De teleiwnoyn sta oria twn enothtwn. Etsi, gia ka8e arxeio, ena tmhma ths teleytaias enothtas xaramizetai. Ypo8etontas oti ta mege8h twn arxeiwn einai tyxaia, xaramizetai peripoy mish enothta gia ka8e arxeio poy yparxei sto disko sas. O Tanenbaum to onomazei ayto "eswteriko katakermatismo" sto biblio toy "Leitoyrgika systhmata".\nMporeite na mantecete ton ari8mo twn arxeiwn ston disko sas apo ton ari8mo twn xrhsimopoihmenwn kombwn (inodes) toy diskoy sas.\nYparxoyn peripoy 12000 arxeia sto / kai peripoy 44000 arxeia sto /var. Me mege8os kommatiou 1KB, peripoy 6+22 = 28MB xanontai sta telika kommatia twn arxeiwn. An eixa epilejei mege8os kommatiou 4KB, 8a eixa xasei 4 fores perissotero xwro.\nH metafora dedomenwn, omws, einai grhgoroterh gia synexhs enothtes dedomenwn. Gia ayto, to ext2 prospa8ei na proana8esei to xwro se 8 synexhs enothtes gia epekteinomena arxeia. An o xwros de xrhsimopoih8ei eley8erwnetai, opote de xaramizetai ka8oloy xwros.\nH asynexhs ana8esh kommatiwn se ena arxeio einai kakh gia thn apodosh, efoson ta arxeia diabazontai me ena synexh tropo. Ayto anagkazei to leitoyrgiko na moirasei thn prosbash sto disko kai thn kefalh na kinh8ei. Ayto onomazetai "ejwterikos katakermatismos" h apla "katakermatismos" kai einai ena syxno problhma se systhmata arxeiwn DOS.\nTo ext2 exei arketes strathgikes gia na apofugei ton ejwteriko katakermatismo. Kanonika, o katakermatismos den apotelei megalo problhma gia to ext2, akomh kai se katatmhseis bareas xrhshs opws to xwro newn toy USENET. An kai yparxei ena ergaleio apokatakermatismou gia to ext2, kaneis de to xrhsimopoiei kai de symbadizei me thn trexoysa ekdosh toy ext2. Xrhsimopoihste to, alla me dikh sas ey8unh.\nTo MS-DOS einai gnwsto gia thn pa8ologikh toy diaxeirish xwroy. Se syndyasmo me thn apu8menh buffer cache, oi epiptwseis toy katakermatismou arxeiwn sthn apodosh ginontai grhgora antilhptes. Oi xrhstes toy DOS einai synh8ismenoi ston apokatakermatismo toy diskoy ka8e liges ebdomades kai merikoi exoyn anaptujei eylabikes synh8eies kai pisteuw gia ton apokatakermatismo. Kamia apo aytes tis synh8eies de 8a prepei na metafer8ei sto Linux kai to ext2. Ta eggenh systhmata arxeiwn toy Linux de xreiazontai apokatakermatismo katw apo kanonikes syn8hkes, akomh kai se periptwseis me toylaxiston 5% eleu8ero xwro sto disko.\nTo MS-DOS xanei kai megales posothtes xwroy logw toy eswterikou katakermatismou. Gia katatmhseis anw twn 256KB, oi enothtes toy DOS ginontai toso megales poy einai praktika mh xrhsimopoihsimes (ayto exei dior8w8ei en merh me to FAT32).\nTo ext2 de sas anagkazei na xrhsimopoihsete megales enothtes gia megala systhmata arxeiwn, ektos gia polu megala systhmata arxeiwn sthn perioxh toy 0.5TB (dhladh terabytes me 1TB = 1024GB) kai anw, opoy oi mikres enothtes ginontai mh apodotikes. Etsi, se anti8esh me to DOS, den yparxei logos na xwrizete to disko se polles katatmhseis gia na krathsete to mege8os twn enothtwn mikro. Xrhsimopoihste to 1KB opoy einai dynaton. Isws na 8elete na xrhsimopoihsete ta 2KB gia merikes katatmhseis, alla na perimenete merika aprosdokhta problhmata.\n3.5 Diarkeia zwhs arxeiwn kai kukloi antigrafwn asfaleias ws krithria katatmhsewn\nMe to ext2, h katatmhseis prepei na ginoyn me bash toys periorismous gia antigrafa asfaleias kai gia thn apofygh ejwterikou katakermatismou logw ths diarkeias zwhs twn arxeiwn.\nTa arxeia exoyn diaforetikes diarkeies zwhs. Afou dhmioyrgh8ei ena arxeio, 8a parameinei sto susthma gia kapoio xroniko diasthma kai meta 8a afaire8ei. H diarkeia zwhs twn arxeiwn diaferei polu mesa sto susthma kai ejartatai, en merei, apo to xwro paramonhs toy arxeioy. Gia paradeigma, arxeia sta /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/bin kai paromoioys katalogoys einai pi8anon na exoyn megalh diarkeia zwhs: arketous mhnes kai parapanw. Arxeia sto /home einai pi8ano na exoyn mia mesh diarkeia zwhs: peripoy arketes ebdomades. Arxeia sto /var einai synh8ws braxubia: sxedon kanena arxeio sto /var/spool/news de 8a parameinei gia perissoteres apo merikes meres, enw arxeia sto /var/spool/lpd exoyn diarkeia zwhs merika lepta h ligotero.\nGia antigrafa asfaleias einai xrhsimo to poso toy ka8hmerinou antigrafoy na einai mikrotero apo th xwrhtikothta toy enos mesoy. Ena ka8hmerino antigrafo mporei na einai eite oloklhro eite prosayjhtiko.\nMporeite na apofasisete na krathsete tis katatmhseis sas mikres gia na xwrane se ena meso (gia ka8hmerina plhrh antigrafa). Se opoiadhpote periptwsh ka8e katatmhsh 8a prepei na einai arketa mikrh wste ta ka8hmerina dedomena (ola ta allagmena arxeia) na xwrane se ena meso (epilejte prosayjhtiko antigrafo kai na perimenete na allazete meso gia to ebdomadiaio/mhniaio plhres antigrafo - den ginetai plhrhs aytomatopoihmenh ergasia).\nH strathgikh antigrafwn ejartatai apo ayth thn apofash.\nOtan sxediazete na agorasete diskoys, 8ymh8eite na krathsete arketa xrhmata gia ta antigrafa! Dedomena xwris antigrafa einai axrhsta! H anaparagwgh dedomenwn kostizei polu perissotero apo to antigrafo gia sxedon opoiondhpote!\nGia megaluterh apodosh einai xrhsimo na kratate arxeia me diaforetiko xrono zwhs se diaforetikes katatmhseis. Me ayto ton tropo ta braxubia arxeia sthn katatmhsh syzhthsewn 8a katakermatistoun polu. Ayto, omws, de 8a exei kamia epiptwsh sthn apodosh twn / h /home katatmhsewn.


url: = Noshleyetai o drasths poy anoije pyr sto Kapitwlio - Den traymatisthke astynomikos\nEnas enoplos mphke sto ypogeio kentro episkeptwn toy Kapitwlioy xqes (topikh wra), kai pyrobolhqhke kai traymatisthke apo thn astynomia afoy shmadece toys astynomikoys, eipe h astynomia.\nO ypoptos kai mia gynaika poy etyxe na brisketai sto xwro traymatisthkan kai metaferqhkan se nosokomeio, eipe o arxhgos ths astynomias toy Kapitwlioy Maqioy Bernteroza se synenteyjh typoy.\nO Bernteroza prosqese pws den traymatisthke astynomikos, alla den eixe dieykrinistei posoi astynomikoy pyrobolhsan. Eipe epishs pws breqhke epi topoy ena oplo enw stoys xwroys toy Kapitolioy breqhke to aytokinhto toy enoploy, o opoios einai gnwstos sthn astynomia.\n"Basei arxikwn ereynwn, pisteyoyme pws ayto einai memonwmeno peristatiko apo atomo poy exei janabreqei stoys xwroys toy Kapitwlioy sto parelqon. Den yparxei logos na pistecoyme oti ayto einai tipota parapanw apo mia poinikh prajh", eipe o arxhgos ths astynomias.\nAjiwmatoyxos ths kybernhshs twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn eipe epishs oti den yparxoyn endeijeis poy syndeoyn thn prajh me thn tromokratia.\nYphrxan poly liga melh toy kogkresoy sth perioxh giati htan mh ergasimh mera, kai to ktirio toy Kapitwlioy sfragisthke alla anoije jana meta apo ligo. To sygkrothma ejyphretei kyriws toyristes.\nH astynomia wstoso den edwse to onoma toy drasth sth dhmosiothta kai eipe oti edrase monos toy.\nH Mystikh Yphresia toy proedroy ekkenwse enan xwro gyrw apo ton Leyko Oiko apo toyristes, alla o xwros epidoqhke jana se xrhsh. Mia anafora oti kapoios prospaqhse na mpei ston Leyko Oiko einai analhqhs, eipe ekproswpos ths Mystikhs Yphresias.\nH astynomia ths anejarthths perifereias ths Koloympia (h Oyasigkton), h opoia einai anejarthth apo thn astynomia toy Kapitwlioy, epishs epibebaiwse oti to epeisodio htan memonwmeno kai den apoteloyse dhmosia apeilh.


url: = Krisimes wres gia thn agora biblioy\n Eidikh synedriash ths Boylhs gia thn epeteio toy Polytexneioy\n Ptwsh metoxwn sth Germania meta thn ypobaqmish 12 trapezwn ths\n Epixeirhseis antipoinwn sth Syria meta thn epiqesh sthn edra yphresiwn Plhroforiwn\nAyjanei tis teleytaies wres sthn ekdotikh agora h anhsyxia gia th dynatothta plhrwmwn orismenwn bibliopwleiwn-alysidwn, poy exoyn metatrapei se qymata ths oikonomikhs krishs, antimetwpizontas shmantikh ptwsh twn pwlhsewn toys.\nEkdotes kai bibliopwles diabebaiwnan mexri th stigmh poy grafontan aytes oi grammes pws kanena ``kanoni'' den eixe skasei sthn agora, symplhrwnontas oti ta problhmata me ta bibliopwleia-alysides (opws kai genikotera me ta bibliopwleia) den einai shmerina.\nAsfalws, oso perna o kairos, oi synqhkes dyskoleyoyn. Ta bibliopwleia antapokrinontai syxna mono kata to hmisy stis ypoxrewseis toys pros toys ekdotes, metaqetontas synexws tis hmeromhnies apoplhrwmhs, oi ekdotes anagkazontai na kaqysterhsoyn thn katabolh twn dikwn toys ofeilwn pros tritoys kai to kyklwma toy biblioy yfistatai olo kai pio entonoys klydwnismoys.\nPara thn arxikh pepoiqhsh pws h krish den qa eplhtte endexomenws to biblio oso alloys kladoys, ejaitias toy enhmerwtikoy kai paidagwgikoy toy xarakthra ws emporikoy proiontos, oi elpides arxisan hdh apo ta mesa toy 2009 na diaceydontai, enw h agora exei stegnwsei edw kai enamish xrono apo xrhma.\nH ptwsh twn pwlhsewn ypologizetai shmera apo toys ekdotes, se 30% me 40%, enw oi prooptikes gia anakamch paramenoyn adhles. Kapoia kalytereysh anamenetai enocei ths giortinhs periodoy, me ta rafia twn bibliopwleiwn na gemizoyn kainoyrgies ekdoseis (ellhnikh kai jenh logotexnia, oikonomikes kai istorikes meletes, alla kai almpoym, paidika kai martyries) kai toys ekdotes na prosdokoyn kapoia eynoikotera apotelesmata gia tis prosfates ependyseis toys.\nO ekdotikos xwros anasyntassetai mprosta sta pollaplasiazomena problhmata, anakatanemontas toys programmatismenoys toy titloys kai periorizontas drastika thn paragwgh toy (an kai kapoia symbolaia poy ypografthkan se anefeles hmeres -kyriws me oikoys toy ejwterikoy- qa prepei na thrhqoyn). Hdh, oi ekdotikes periodoi teinoyn na syrriknwqoyn se dyo h (meta bias) treis ton xrono: nea biblia pleon kykloforoyn stis giortes twn Xristoygennwn kai ths Prwtoxronias, to Pasxa, opws kai ligo prin apo thn enarjh twn kalokairinwn diakopwn.\nOpws lene proswpa ths ekdotikhs agoras, idiaitero rolo gia thn kinhsh toy biblioy epaije kata th diarkeia toy fqinopwroy kai h entonh reystothta ths politikhs katastashs. Akoma kai ta elaxista deigmata staqeropoihshs, efernan kapoia deigmata anazwogonhshs sta xeimazomena bibliopwleia, enw opoiadhpote arnhtikh ejelijh erixne aytomatws katakoryfa twn endiaferon.\nSymfwna, pantws, me empeiroys epaggelmaties -poy drasthriopoioyntai polla xronia sthn agora kai einai se qesh na gnwrizoyn ek twn endon th leitoyrgia ths- ta epomena xronia oi ekdotikoi oikoi qa prepei na anaprosanatolistoyn rizika toso ws pros ton tropo paragwghs oso kai ws pros tis epiloges toys, allazontas ardhn ta protypa epi th basei twn opoiwn poreythkan thn teleytaia dekapentaetia.\nTo APE-MPE rwthse treis ej aytwn.\nAqhna, Ellada 17/11/2011 13:40 (APE-MPE)\nBoylh: Eidikh synedriash gia thn epeteio toy Polytexneioy\nOi anafores sthn kybernhsh eqnikhs synergasias, se antidiastolh me tis diapistwseis gia to adikaiwto toy aithmatos ths eqnikhs anejarthsias, xarakthrisan th shmerinh eidikh synedriash ths Boylhs gia thn 38h epeteio ths ejegershs toy Polytexneioy.\nParwn sthn synedriash o prwqypoyrgos Loykas Papadhmos diatranwse pws ``shmera sthn Ellada, h eleyqeria kai h dhmokratia exoyn edraiwqei'' kai pws h 17h Noembrh deixnei oti o ellhnikos laos -kai eidikotera oi neoi- mporoyn na yperboyn tis kriseis kai na petyxoyn eqnikoys stoxoys, otan kinoyntai me apofasistikothta kai enothta. ``Me apofasistikothta kai enothta mporoyme na epityxoyme toys neoys eqnikoys stoxoys, na jeperasoyme thn krish kai na feroyme th xwra se troxia anaptyjhs'', anefere o k. Papadhmos.\nO yfypoyrgos Ypodomwn, Metaforwn kai Diktywn Giannhs Magkriwths tonise pws h dhmokratia einai proion systrateyshs olwn twn Ellhnwn- h metapoliteytikh wstoso poreia diakrinetai kai apo megales paqogeneies kai antifaseis, me apotelesma kai thn shmerinh krish. ``Sthn krish, omws, den apantoyme me periorismo ths dhmokratias. Deigma ths ypeyqynhs stashs toy Koinoboylioy einai kai h kybernhsh eqnikhs synergasias poy qa apanthsei s' aythn thn krish'', shmeiwse o k. Magkriwths.\n``Anagkh synaineshs, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsoyme stis allages poy apaitoyntai, kyriws gia thn anatajh ths oikonomias'', diapistwse o Proedros ths Boylhs, Filippos Petsalnikos. ``Xreiazetai mia "ejegersh" apenanti stis paqogeneies- kai emeis oi politikoi na mporesoyme na empneysoyme empistosynh stoys polites'' symplhrwse.\nEkproswpwntas to PASOK, o Manwlhs Mpenteniwths, epeshmane thn anagkh anadiarqrwshs toy politikoy systhmatos enantia sthn oikonomikh oligarxia poy epixeirei thn apodomhsh toy. ``Exoyme ypoxrewsh, me ena neo kinhma na antimetwpisoyme thn hqikh krish poy biwnoyme, enw mas apasxolei kai h oikonomikh krish poy exoyme kaqhkon na jeperasoyme. Exoyme ypoxrewsh na diasfalisoyme mian amesh dhmokratia, wste na einai -tote mono- h ejoysia sto lao'', anefere o k. Mpenteniwths.\nO Spyros Taliadoyros, ekproswpwntas th Nea Dhmokratia, parathrhse metajy allwn pws ``shmera h epeteios briskei thn patrida mas kai thn Eyrwph se dyskolh kai krisimh kamph''.\n``H oikonomikh krish kai dyspragia plhttei kaqe oikogeneia. Gia to logo ayto, h kalyterh apodosh timhs stoys agwnes ths genias toy Polytexneioy, einai h synenwsh twn dynamewn olwn mas gia na anatrecoyme thn zoferh pragmatikothta poy biwnei h patrida mas'', anefere o k. Taliadoyros, dinontas emfash sthn anagkh sthrijhs ths apasxolhshs, ``na dwsoyme orama kai prooptikh se kaqe neo kai ergazomeno''.\nPara tis anatropes poy akoloyqhsan thn ptwsh ths xoyntas, to xreos pros thn patrida paramenei to idio, shmeiwse sthn topoqethsh toy o boyleyths Giwrgos Kontogiannhs, ek meroys ths Dhmokratikhs Symmaxias. ``Ta symferonta ths patridas prepei na einai panw ap' ta kommatika symferonta. To prwto bhma egine me thn sygkrothsh ths kybernhshs eqnikhs enothtas- perimenoyme kai to epomeno bhma na ginei prajh h eqnikh enothta'', anefere o k. Kontogiannhs.\nDiaforetikes yphrjan oi proseggiseis ths aristerhs antipoliteyshs. O koinoboyleytikos ekproswpos toy KKE Spyros Xalbatzhs ektimhse pws ``opws jeperasthke tote o fobos twn tanks, mporoyne shmera na jeperastoyn oloi oi foboi kai h tromokratia poy askeitai gia thn ekth h allh dosh''.\n``Trianta oktw xronia meta, einai epitaktikh anagkh na yioqethqoyn synqhmata kai stoxoi ths efarmozomenhs anatrophs ths shmerinhs sygkybernhshs toy mayroy metwpoy, poy exei ws stoxo thn parapera ejaqliwsh toy laoy kai thn prostasia twn symferontwn ths ploytokratias'', anefere o k. Xalbatzhs kai prosqese: ``Etsi qa dikaiwqoyn oi agwnes kai ta synqhmata toy Polytexneioy gia eqnikh anejarthsia kai laikh kyriarxia''.\nO ekproswpos toy SYRIZA Qodwrhs Dritsas parallhlise thn ektakth anagkh poy eixe epikalestei h stratiwtikh xoynta gia na katalysei th dhmokratia, me thn shmerinh ``ektakth mnhmoniakh anagkh'', poy synodeyetai kai me thn anelijh ths akrodejias, ``oxi monon sth Boylh alla kai sthn kybernhsh''.\nAporriptontas to nomimo ths diejodoy poy prosferei sto politiko systhma h kybernhsh Papadhmoy, o k. Dritsas proekrine thn anagkh prosfyghs sth laikh etymhgoria, shmeiwnontas pws ``den einai dynaton na qewreitai h dhmokratia apeilh gia ton topo, 38 xronia meta. H Boylh ayth einai shmera apomonwmenh kai en pollois aponomimopoihmenh. Ki ayto einai zhthma kairio, poy qetei epitaktika zhthmata, epeigonta kai amesa, yperaspishs ths laikhs kyriarxias ston topo mas''.\nDiaforetiko yphrje to pneyma ths topoqethshs toy ekproswpoy toy LAOS Aggeloy Kolokotrwnh, o opoios krathse apostaseis apo thn shmerinh epeteio, shmeiwnontas oti ``h genia toy Polytexneioy, apotelese th nomimopoihtikh bash twn kybernhsewn poy proekycan meta- kai htan h genia poy prwtagwnisthse ola ayta ta xronia sto politiko mas systhma''.\n``Gia to an eixame qetiko h ligotero qetiko apotelesma meta thn ejegersh toy Polytexneioy, kaqws kai gia ta gegonota poy synebhsan, qa prepei na asxolhqei o istorikos toy mellontos'', eipe o k. Kolokotrwnhs kai eyxhqhke ``na timhqei kata tetoio tropo h epeteios, xwris ektropa, wste h Dhmokratia mas na enisxyqei kai na mhn plhttetai opws alles xronies''.\nSthn anagkh apofyghs taraxwn kai antikoinoboyleytikwn ekdhlwsewn, anaferqhke apo diaforetikh skopia kai o ekproswpos ths Dhmokratikhs Aristeras Aqanasios Lebenths. ``Polla apo ta osa diekdikoysan oi agwnistes toy Polytexneioy einai shmera zhtoymena. Tis qysies poy apaitei h dhmokratia, den prepei na tis jexname. Otan ftanoyn na katebainoyn anqrwpoi stoys dromoys kai parasyrontai na fwnazoyn "na kaei h Boylh", odhgoymaste se epikindynes atrapoys kai prosanatolismoys, opws eidame na symbainei sto Raixstagk kai alloy''.\nKatagrafetai telos kai h parembash toy prwhn Proedroy ths Boylhs Apostoloy Kaklamanh, o opoios diapistwse thn anodo mias neas dhmosias antikoinoboyleytikhs rhtorikhs, poy ftanei mexri toy shmeioy na epirriptei oles tis eyqynes gia thn shmerinh krish sthn metapoliteysh kai thn ptwsh ths Xoyntas. ``To gegonos oti strwmata efagan cwmi meta thn metapoliteysh, eftase na einai to megalo kathgorw'' shmeiwse me pikria o k. Kaklamanhs, diapistwnontas parallhla pws kaqe xrono olo kai ligoteroi boyleytes paristantai sthn eidikh synedriash mnhmhs toy Koinoboylioy, gia thn ejegersh toy Polytexneioy.\nPtwsh shmeiwsan oi times twn metoxwn twn germanikwn emporikwn trapezwn shmera meta thn ypobaqmish apo ton oiko ajiologhshs pistolhptikhs ikanothtas Moody's toy ajioxreoy 12 germanikwn dhmosiwn trapezikwn idrymatwn.\nO oikos Moody's se anakoinwsh toy xqes brady anefere oti h ypobaqmish antanakla to gegonos pws "h mellontikh kybernhtikh (h systhmikh) yposthrijh gia tis germanikes trapezes toy dhmosioy tomea exei katastei ligotero bebaih", prosqetontas oti h apofash toy den syndeetai me th synexizomenh krish xreoys sthn eyrwzwnh.\nAnalytes epishmainoyn oti oi nees ajiologhseis ayjanoyn th neyrikothta stis agores. Ligo meta thn enarjh twn synallagwn sto xrhmatisthrio ths Frankfoyrths, o deikths DAX ypoxwroyse 0,9% stis 5.858 monades, me tis times twn metoxwn twn trapezwn Commerzbank kai Deutsche Bank na yfistantai thn megalyterh ptwsh, panw apo -2%.\nO Moody's ejedwse nees ajiologhseis gia 12 trapezes, oi opoies sthn pleiochfia toys anhkoyn se kratidiakes kybernhseis ths Germanias. Orismenes exoyn kai idiwtes metoxoys. Oi kratikes eggyhseis gia ton tomea katarghqhkan to 2005.\nOi megalyteres ypobaqmiseis --kata treis baqmides-- aforoyn eji germanikes trapezes, perilambanomenwn twn shmantikwn idrymatwn Bayerische Landesbank (BayernLB, Baa1 apo A1) Deutsche Hypothekenbank AG (Deutsche Hypo, Baa1 apo A1) Landesbank Baden-W?rttemberg (A2 apo Aa2),kai Norddeutsche Landesbank GZ (A2 apo Aa2). Alles treis trapezes ypobaqmisthkan kata dyo baqmides, oi Landesbank Hessen-Thueringen GZ (Helaba, se A1 apo Aa2), Landesbank Saar (SaarLB, se A3 apo A1), HSH Nordbank AG (HSH, se Baa2 apo A3).\nAkoma mia trapeza, h DekaBank Deutsche Girozentrale, ypobaqmisthke mia baqmida, se Aa3 apo Aa2.\nH epiqesh apo stratiwtes poy exoyn aytomolhsei apo ton syriako strato enantion sygkrothmatos twn yphresiwn Plhroforiwn ths Polemikhs Aeroporias sta perixwra ths Damaskoy ta jhmerwmata ths Tetarths prokalese ton qanato h ton traymatismo 20 melwn twn yphresiwn asfaleias kai synodeythke apo antipoina sthn perioxh ths epiqeshs, symfwna me martyries katoikwn kai plhrofories twn antikaqestwtikwn dynamewn.\nEprokeito gia thn prwth megalhs klimakas epiqesh enantion shmantikoy stoxoy twn yphresiwn asfaleias toy syriakoy kaqestwtos apo thn enarjh ths ejegershs kata toy proedroy Mpasar al Asant, symfwna me phges twn syrwn aktibistwn.\nMelh toy Eleyqeroy Syriakoy Stratoy ektojeysan royketes kai ebalan me polybola enantion megaloy sygkrothmatos twn yphresiwn Plhroforiwn ths Polemikhs Aeroporias sth Xarasta, sta boreia perixwra ths Damaskoy thn proxqesinh nykta. Symfwna me tis phges twn antikaqestwitkwn, akoloyqhsan sygkroyseis kai elikoptera perikyklwsan thn perioxh ths epiqeshs.\nana2html v2.01 run on Thursday, 17 November 2011 - 13:29:38 UTC


url: =Cyprus News Agency: News in Greek, 11-08-28\n BOYLH EKQESH EPITROPHS AMYNAS MARI\n YPAM KYPRIAKO AXERITOY\n PAFOS - KOYLOYMPRA\nSto Geniko Eisaggelea ths Dhmokratias Petro Klhridh kai ston Proedro ths Monomeloys Diereynhtikhs Epitrophs Poly Polybioy paradidetai th Deytera h Ekqesh ths Epitrophs Amynas ths Boylhs gia thn tragwdia sto Mari.\nAyto dhlwse o Boyleyths toy KS EDEK kai Proedros ths Epitrophs Amynas Giwrgos Barnaba, prosqetontas oti h Ekqesh qa katateqei epishs enwpion ths Olomeleias ths Boylhs twn Antiproswpwn sthn prwth synedria stis 15 Septembrioy.\nSe dhlwseis toy meta thn telesh toy qrhskeytikoy mnhmosynoy toy hrwa ths Dhmokratias Dwroy Loizoy, ston Iero Nao Agioy Iwannh, sth Leykwsia, o k. Barnaba eipe oti mesa apo thn ekqesh ths Epitrophs Amynas den mporoyn na diatypwnontai oi opoiesdhpote poinikes eyqynes. ``Parallhla omws, mesa apo ta symperasmata, mporei kapoios na diakrinei tis politikes eyqynes oi opoies katanemontai. Sigoyra, ektos twn symperasmatwn, h Epitroph dhlwnei sthn Ekqesh ths kai tis dikes ths qeseis kai tis dikes ths apoceis se sxesh me to tragiko symban'', eipe.\nErwthqeis an yphrjan diafwnies sth diatypwsh ths Ekqeshs, o k. Barnaba eipe oti oles oi politikes dynameis ektos toy AKEL yioqethsan thn Ekqesh. ``Etsi doqhke to dikaiwma sto AKEL kai kateqese tis dikes toy qeseis se sxesh me th mh yioqethsh ths Ekqeshs, oi opoies exoyn enswmatwqei mesa sthn idia thn Ekqesh'', anefere.\nErwthqeis ti anamenei h Epitroph ths Boylhs apo tis dhmosies akroaseis poy arxizoyn ayrio, o k. Barnaba eipe oti h Epitroph ths Boylhs anamenei oti enwpion ths Diereynhtikhs Epitrophs qa perasoyn osoi einai emplekomenoi se ayto to tragiko symban.\n``Apo thn allh anamenoyme oti, mesa sto apotelesma to opoio qa diejelqei ths olhs diadikasias apo pleyras ths Epitrophs, qa katanemontai oi politikes eyqynes ekei kai opoy prepei. Kai h Epitroph ayth den qa katanemei tis opoiesdhpote poinikes eyqynes, kati poy einai doyleia ths Astynomias. Anamenoyme oti qa lamcei h alhqeia, o laos mas parakoloyqei, qa prepei na ginei katanohto oti h zwh sthn Kypro meta thn 11h Ioylioy exei allajei plhrws kai o laos apaitei thn aponomh dikaiosynhs gia to tragiko ayto symban'', dhlwse.\n``Se kamia periptwsh den prokeitai na ypokycoyme stoys oroys toy katakthth qetontas se kindyno thn epibiwsh toy Kypriakoy Ellhnismoy sth gh twn paterwn toy, ayto den qa ginei pote'', diabebaiwse o Ypoyrgos Amynas Dhmhtrh Hliadh.\nSe omilia toy se ekdhlwsh ``Mnhmhs Katexomenhs Axeritoy'', ston Iero Nao Agioy Dhmhtrioy, sto synoikismo Agioy Gewrgioy Axeritoy, o k. Hliadhs eipe oti ``oi synqhkes einai dyskoles alla qa synexisoyme na agwnizomaste me qelhsh, synepeia kai ypeyqynothta na anatrecoyme th katoxh, na anakocoyme ton epoikismo, na apotrecoyme ton efialth kai thn katara ths dixotomhshs''.\nO Ypoyrgos Amynas shmeiwse oti oi synomilies ypo thn aigida twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn den apodidoyn ta anamenomena. ``H kalh qelhsh kai h politikh boylhsh ths ellhnokypriakhs pleyras den einai arketh gia na ftasoyme se biwsimh lysh sth bash twn chfismatwn twn HE toy Dieqnoys kai toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikaioy kai twn Symfwniwn Ychloy Epipedoy. Oi synomilies proskroyoyn sth dixotomikh adiallajia ths toyrkikhs pleyras h opoia paizei ena paixnidi entypwsewn, epidiwkontas to telesidiko nayagio ths diadikasias me stoxo thn anabaqmish toy paranomoy kaqestwtos'', prosqese.\nO k. Hliadhs tonise oti h prosfath ekrhjh alazoneias kai adiallajias toy Tagip Erntogan sta katexomena einai arkoyntws dhlwtikh ths epishmhs toyrkikhs politikhs. ``Bebaiws'', synexise, ``me ayta ta dedomena h Toyrkia den dikaioytai na aisiodojei gia tis eyrwpaikes ths filodojies. Allwste kai edw symperiferetai me perissh alazoneia apeilwntas na pagwsei thn entajiakh diadikasia otan h Kypros analabei thn proedria ths EE. Einai ws ean h EE na ypebale aithsh na entaxqei sthn Toyrkia kai oxi h Toyrkia na entaxqei sthn EE'', eipe.\nTerastiwn diastasewn zarzabatiko, h gnwsth koyloympra, kallierghqhke se aylh spitioy sta Konia ths Pafoy.\nH koyloympra anhkei ston Andrea Loyro o opoios, opws dhlwse thn fytece ston khpo toy mazi me alla zarzabatika ton perasmeno xeimwna.\nSymfwna me ton idiokthth ths h koyloympra arxise na megalwnei kai phre diaforetikh morfh apo alles mikroteres. Zygizei epta kila exei perimetro 75 ekatosta kai ycos 60.\nSymfwna me ton k. Loyro, to sygkekrimeno (agaphmeno stoys Kyprioys) zarzabatiko, epeidh megalwse toso poly, sklhryne kai den mporei na katanalwqei.\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Sunday, 28 August 2011 - 11:29:14 UTC


url: = Pws ypologizetai h parakrathsh foroy se misqoys kai syntajeis\n Hrakleio: Eleyqeroi me perioristikoys oroys oi dyo astynomikoi\n KKE: Dikaios o agwnas twn ergazomenwn sto Metro\n Nomimh ekrine to Prwtodikeio thn apergia se trolei kai lewforeia\n Eikositetrawres epanalambanomenes se trena kai proastiako\n Se symfwnia gia ta ergasiaka katelhjan ergazomenoi kai dioikhsh sto neo Taxydromiko Tamieythrio\nThn egkyklio gia ton tropo mhniaias parakrathshs foroy eisodhmatos apo misqwtoys kai syntajioyxoys gia ta eisodhmata poy apoktoyn apo 1.1.2013 apesteile to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn stis efories kai sta logisthria twn epixeirhsewn.\nOpws ypenqymizetai sthn egkyklio poy ypografetai apo ton yfypoyrgo Oikonomikwn Giwrgo Mayraganh, h parakrathsh foroy eisodhmatos apo fetos ginetai me bash th nea klimaka forologias eisodhmatos gia misqwtoys kai syntajioyxoys poy isxyei me bash ton neo forologiko nomo.\nKLIMAKA MISQWTWN - SYNTAJIOYXWN\nKlimakio eisodhmatos (eyrw) Forologikos\nsyntelesths % Foros klimakioy (eyrw) Synolo Eisodhmatos (eyrw) Synolo Foroy (eyrw)\nO foros poy prokyptei apo thn klimaka meiwnetai ws ejhs:\n- Gia eisodhma mexri kai 21.000 eyrw kata 2.100 eyrw. Efoson o foros poy prokyptei einai mikroteros twn 2.100 eyrw to poso meiwshs periorizetai sto poso toy foroy.\n- Gia eisodhma panw apo 21.000 eyrw to poso meiwshs periorizetai kata 100 eyrw ana 1.000 eyrw eisodhmatos kai mexri ejantlhsews toy posoy twn dyo 2.100 eyrw.\nEleyqeroi afeqhkan to apogeyma, meta apo maraqwnia apologia ston anakrith Hrakleioy, oi dyo astynomikoi ths Omadas DIAS, hlikias 29 kai 31 etwn, poy symmeteixan se katadiwjh, to brady ths Tetarths, h opoia odhghse se troxaio atyxhma, me sobara traymatismenoys dyo nearoys hlikias 16 kai 19 etwn.\nKai oi dyo afeqhkan eleyqeroi me perioristikoys oroys kai sygkekrimena toys epiblhqhke apagoreysh ejodoy apo th xwra kaqws kai eggyhsh 2.000 eyrw gia ton kaqena.\nThn idia wra, maxh gia na krathqoyn sth zwh dinoyn meta to troxaio poy eixan sthn paraliakh lewforo toy Hrakleioy, epeita apo thn katadiwjh, oi dyo nearoi, poy noshleyontai se krisimh katastash, diaswlhnwmenoi sto Panepisthmiako Nosokomeio ths polhs.\n``O agwnas twn ergazomenwn sto Metro einai dikaios kai epibeblhmenos. Gia na ton kamcei h kybernhsh, meta tis sykofanties kai tis apeiles, ejapelyse enantion toys thn wmh katastolh, thn epistrateysh, tis nyxterines efodoys twn MAT, toys Eisaggeleis ajiopoiwntas toys antergatikoys, antidrastikoys nomoys. Stis shmerines dyskoles synqhkes kai olometwpes epiqeseis ths kybernhshs, apaiteitai syneidhtopoihsh twn proypoqesewn poy xreiazontai gia sklhroys kala organwmenoys kai proetoimasmenoys agwnes'', anaferei to KKE me anakoinwsh toy.\nAperrice to Monomeles Prwtodikeio thn prosfygh ths ``Odikes Sygkoinwnies AE'' prokeimenoy na kriqei paranomh h shmerinh apergia twn ergazomenwn sta trolei kai ta lewforeia.\nTo dikasthrio ekrine oti h kinhtopoihsh prokhryxthke kata tropo nomimo apo to EKA kai etsi aperrice thn aithsh ths OSY.\nAkinhtopoihmena qa meinoyn meta ta mesanyxta, apoce, ta trena toy OSE, logw twn 24wrwn epanalambanomenwn apergiwn poy exei ejaggeilei h Panellhnia Omospondia Sidhrodromikwn (POS) gia to trihmero Sabbato 26 - Deytera 28 Ianoyarioy. Akinhtopoihmenoi qa einai gia to idio xroniko diasthma kai oi syrmoi toy proastiakoy sidhrodromoy.\nSe symfwnia gia ta ergasiaka katelhjan ergazomenoi kai dioikhsh sto neo Taxydromiko Tamieythrio. Se anakoinwsh toy TT anaferetai oti "se poly kalo klima diejhxqhsan oi syzhthseis metajy ths Dioikhshs ths ``Neo Taxydromiko Tamieythrio Ellados ATE'' kai twn ergazomenwn. ``Ta qemata poy eteqhsan epilyqhkan me ton kalytero dynato tropo kai oloklhrwqhke h katartish twn Symbasewn Ergasias gia olo to proswpiko''.\n``Meta kai apo ta parapanw epitygxanetai h plhrhs leitoyrgia ths Neas Trapezas, h opoia me th bohqeia olwn kai me doyleia ths Dioikhshs kai toy proswpikoy ths qa mporesei na epikentrwqei sto ergo ths. H Dioikhsh ths ``Neo Taxydromiko Tamieythrio Ellados A.T.E.'' qelei na eyxaristhsei, gia mia akoma fora, toys ergazomenoys kai oloys osoys bohqhsan gia thn epityxh katalhjh aytwn twn prospaqeiwn'', anaferetai sthn anakoinwsh.\nana2html v2.01 run on Friday, 25 January 2013 - 17:30:23 UTC


url: =Read Online Bible - Modern Greek Bible online on Jesus Work Ministry Daniel Chapter 2:1-49.\nDAN 2:1  Kai en tw deuterw etei thV basileiaV tou Naboucodonosor, o Naboucodonosor enupniasqh enupnia, kai etaracqh to pneuma autou kai o upnoV autou efugen ap' autou.\nDAN 2:2 Kai eipen o basileuV na kaleswsi touV magouV kai touV epaoidouV kai touV gohtaV kai touV CaldaiouV, dia na fanerwswsi proV ton basilea ta enupnia autou. Hlqon loipon kai estaqhsan emprosqen tou basilewV.\nDAN 2:3 Kai eipe proV autouV o basileuV, Enupniasqhn enupnion kai to pneuma mou etaracqh eiV to na gnwrisw to enupnion.\nDAN 2:4 Kai elalhsan oi Caldaioi proV ton basilea Suristi, legonteV, Basileu, zhqi eiV ton aiwna× eipe to enupnion proV touV doulouV sou kai hmeiV qelomen fanerwsei thn ermhneian.\nDAN 2:5 O basileuV apekriqh kai eipe proV touV CaldaiouV, to pragma diefugen ap' emou× ean den kamhte gnwston eiV eme to enupnion kai thn ermhneian autou, qelete katamelisqh kai ai oikiai saV qelousi geinei koprwneV×\nDAN 2:6 all' ean fanerwshte to enupnion kai thn ermhneian autou, qelete labei par' emou dwra kai amoibaV kai timhn megalhn× to enupnion loipon kai thn ermhneian autou fanerwsate eiV eme.\nDAN 2:7 Apekriqhsan ek deuterou kai eipon, AV eiph o basileuV to enupnion proV touV doulouV autou, kai hmeiV qelomen fanerwsei thn ermhneian autou.\nDAN 2:8 O basileuV apekriqh kai eipe, Ep' alhqeiaV katalambanw oti seiV qelete na exagorazhte ton kairon, bleponteV oti diefugen ap' emou to pragma.\nDAN 2:9 All' ean den kamhte gnwston eiV eme to enupnion, auth monh h apofasiV einai dia saV× dioti sunebouleuqhte na eiphte yeudeiV kai diefqarmenouV logouV emprosqen mou, ewsou parelqh o kairoV× eipate moi loipon to enupnion kai qelw gnwrisei oti dunasqe na fanerwshte eiV eme kai thn ermhneian autou.\nDAN 2:10 Apekriqhsan oi Caldaioi emprosqen tou basilewV kai eipon, den uparcei anqrwpoV epi thV ghV dunamenoV na fanerwsh to pragma tou basilewV× kaqwV den uparcei oudeiV basileuV, arcwn h dioikhthV, ostiV na zhth toiauta pragmata para magou h epaoidou h Caldaiou×\nDAN 2:11 kai to pragma to opoion o basileuV zhtei einai mega, kai den einai alloV dunamenoV na fanerwsh auto emprosqen tou basilewV, ektoV twn qewn, twn opoiwn h katoikia den einai meta sarkoV.\nDAN 2:12 Dia touto equmwqh o baaileuV kai wrgisqh sfodra kai eipe na apoleswsi pantaV touV sofouV thV BabulwnoV.\nDAN 2:13 Kai exhlqen h apofasiV kai oi sofoi eqanatononto× ezhthsan de kai ton Danihl kai touV suntrofouV autou, dia na qanatwswsin autouV.\nDAN 2:14  Kai apekriqh o Danihl meta fronhsewV kai sofiaV proV ton Ariwc ton arciswmatofulaka tou basilewV, ostiV exhlqe dia na qanatwsh touV sofouV thV BabulwnoV,\nDAN 2:15 apekriqh kai eipe proV ton Ariwc, ton arconta tou basilewV, Dia ti h biaia auth apofasiV para tou basilewV; Kai o Ariwc efanerwse to pragma proV ton Danihl.\nDAN 2:16 Kai eishlqen o Danihl kai parekalese ton basilea na dwsh kairon eiV auton kai hqele fanerwsei thn ermhneian proV ton basilea.\nDAN 2:17 Kai uphgen o Danihl eiV ton oikon autou kai egnwstopoihse to pragma proV ton Ananian, proV ton Misahl kai proV ton Azarian, touV suntrofouV autou,\nDAN 2:18 dia na zhthswsin eleoV para tou Qeou tou ouranou peri tou musthriou toutou, wste na mh apolesqh o Danihl kai oi suntrofoi autou meta twn epiloipwn sofwn thV BabulwnoV.\nDAN 2:19 Kai to musthrion apekalufqh proV ton Danihl di ' oramatoV thV nuktoV. Tote euloghsen o Danihl ton Qeon tou ouranou.\nDAN 2:20 Kai elalhsen o Danihl kai eipen, Eih to onoma tou Qeou euloghmenon apo tou aiwnoV kai ewV tou aiwnoV× dioti autou einai h sofia kai h dunamiV×\nDAN 2:21 kai autoV metaballei touV kairouV kai touV cronouV× kaqairei basileiV kai kaqista basileiV× didei sofian eiV touV sofouV kai gnwsin eiV touV sunetouV.\nDAN 2:22 AutoV apokaluptei ta baqea kai ta kekrummena× gnwrizei ta en tw skotei kai to fwV katoikei met' autou.\nDAN 2:23 Se, Qee twn paterwn mou, eucaristw kai se doxologw, ostiV moi edwkaV sofian kai dunamin, kai ekameV gnwston eiV eme o, ti edehqhmen para sou. Dioti su ekameV gnwsthn eiV hmaV tou basilewV thn upoqesin.\nDAN 2:24  Uphge loipon o Danihl proV ton Ariwc, ton opoion o basileuV dietaxe na apolesh touV sofouV thV BabulwnoV× uphge kai eipe proV auton outw× Mh apoleshV touV sofouV thV BabulwnoV× eisaxon me enwpion tou basilewV kai egw qelw fanerwsei thn ermhneian proV ton basilea.\nDAN 2:25 Kai eishxen o Ariwc meta spoudhV ton Danihl enwpion tou basilewV kai eipe proV auton outwV, Eurhka andra ek twn uiwn thV aicmalwsiaV tou Iouda, ostiV qelei fanerwsei thn ermhneian eiV ton basilea.\nDAN 2:26 Apekriqh o basileuV kai eipe proV ton Danihl, tou opoiou to onoma hto Baltasasar, Eisai ikanoV na fanerwshV proV eme to enupnion to opoion eidon kai thn ermhneian autou;\nDAN 2:27 Apekriqh o Danihl enwpion tou basilewV kai eipe, To musthrion, peri tou opoiou o basileuV eperwta, den dunantai sofoi, epaoidoi, magoi, manteiV, na fanerwswsi proV ton basilea×\nDAN 2:28 all' einai QeoV en tw ouranw, ostiV apokaluptei musthria kai kamnei gnwston eiV ton basilea Naboucodonosor, ti mellei genesqai en taiV escataiV hmeraiV. To enupnion sou kai ai oraseiV thV kefalhV sou epi thV klinhV sou einai autai×\nDAN 2:29 basileu, oi dialogismoi sou anebhsan eiV ton noun sou epi thV klinhV sou, peri tou ti mellei genesqai meta tauta× kai o apokaluptwn musthria ekame gnwston eiV se ti mellei genesqai.\nDAN 2:30 Plhn oson to kat' eme, to musthrion touto den apekalufqh proV eme dia sofiaV, thn opoian ecw egw mallon para pantaV touV zwntaV, alla dia na fanerwqh h ermhneia proV ton basilea kai dia na gnwrishV touV dialogismouV thV kardiaV sou.\nDAN 2:31  Su, basileu, eqewreiV kai idou, eikwn megalh× exaisioV hto ekeinh h eikwn kai uperocoV h lamyiV authV, istamenhV enwpion sou, kai h morfh authV fobera.\nDAN 2:32 H kefalh thV eikonoV ekeinhV hto ek crusou kaqarou, to sthqoV authV kai oi bracioneV authV ex argurou, h koilia authV kai oi mhroi authV ek calkou,\nDAN 2:33 ai knhmai authV ek sidhrou, oi podeV authV meroV men ek sidhrou, meroV de ek phlou.\nDAN 2:34 EqewreiV ewsou apekoph liqoV aneu ceirwn, kai ektuphse thn eikona epi touV podaV authV touV ek sidhrou kai phlou kai katesuntriyen autouV.\nDAN 2:35 Tote o sidhroV, o phloV, o calkoV, o arguroV kai o crusoV katesuntrifqhsan omou kai egeinan wV lepton acuron alwniou qerinou× kai o anemoV eshkwsen auta kai oudeiV topoV eureqh autwn× o de liqoV o ktuphsaV thn eikona egeinen oroV mega kai egemisen olhn thn ghn.\nDAN 2:36 Touto einai to enupnion× kai thn ermhneian autou qelomen eipei enwpion tou basilewV.\nDAN 2:37 Su, basileu, eisai basileuV basilewn× dioti o QeoV tou ouranou edwken eiV se basileian, dunamin kai iscun kai doxan.\nDAN 2:38 Kai panta topon, opou katoikousin oi uioi twn anqrwpwn, ta qhria tou agrou kai ta peteina tou ouranou, edwken eiV thn ceira sou kai se katesthse kurion epi pantwn toutwn× su eisai h kefalh ekeinh h crush.\nDAN 2:39 Kai meta se qelei anasthqh allh basileia katwtera sou kai trith allh basileia ek calkou, htiV qelei kurieusei epi pashV thV ghV.\nDAN 2:40 Kai tetarth basileia qelei staqh iscura wV o sidhroV× kaqwV o sidhroV katakoptei kai kataleptunei ta panta× malista kaqwV o sidhroV o suntribwn ta panta, outw qelei katakoptei kai katasuntribei.\nDAN 2:41 Peri de tou oti eideV touV podaV kai touV daktulouV, meroV men ek phlou keramewV, meroV de ek sidhrou, qelei eisqai basileia dihrhmenh× plhn qelei menei ti en auth ek thV dunamewV tou sidhrou, kaqwV eideV ton sidhron anamemigmenon meta argillwdouV phlou.\nDAN 2:42 Kai kaqwV oi daktuloi twn podwn hsan meroV ek sidhrou kai meroV ek phlou, outwV h basileia qelei eisqai kata meroV iscura kai kata meroV euqraustoV.\nDAN 2:43 Kai kaqwV eideV ton sidhron anamemigmenon meta tou argillwdouV phlou, outw qelousin anamicqh dia spermatoV anqrwpwn× plhn den qelousin eisqai kekollhmenoi o eiV meta tou allou, kaqwV o sidhroV den mignuetai meta tou phlou.\nDAN 2:44 Kai en taiV hmeraiV twn basilewn ekeinwn, qelei anasthsei o QeoV tou ouranou basileian, htiV eiV ton aiwna den qelei fqarh× kai h basileia auth den qelei perasei eiV allon laon× qelei katasuntriyei kai suntelesei pasaV tautaV taV basileiaV, auth de qelei diamenei eiV touV aiwnaV,\nDAN 2:45 kaqwV eideV oti apekoph liqoV ek tou orouV aneu ceirwn kai katesuntriye ton sidhron, ton calkon, ton phlon, ton arguron kai ton cruson× o QeoV o megaV ekame gnwston eiV ton basilea o, ti qelei geinei meta tauta× kai alhqinon einai to enupnion kai pisth h ermhneia autou.\nDAN 2:46  Tote o basileuV Naboucodonosor epesen epi proswpon kai prosekunhse ton Danihl kai prosetaxe na prosferwsin eiV auton prosforan kai qumiamata.\nDAN 2:47 Kai apokriqeiV o basileuV proV ton Danihl, eipen, Ep' alhqeiaV, o QeoV saV, autoV einai QeoV qewn kai KurioV twn basilewn kai ostiV apokaluptei musthria× dioti hdunhqhV na apokaluyhV to musthrion touto.\nDAN 2:48 Tote o basileuV emegalune ton Danihl kai dwra megala kai polla edwken eiV auton kai katesthsen auton kurion epi pashV thV eparciaV thV BabulwnoV kai arcidioikhthn epi pantaV touV sofouV thV BabulwnoV.\nDAN 2:49 Kai ezhthsen o Danihl para tou basilewV kai katesthse ton Sedrac, ton Misac kai ton Abde-negw epi taV upoqeseiV thV eparciaV thV BabulwnoV× o de Danihl eurisketo en th aulh tou basilewV.