url: =JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...>\nAdmirals Forum » .::Admirals Community::. » Welcome / Farewell » JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...>\n8A SAS LEIPSW?\nWho Are You? (?)\n1 JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Thu 15 Nov 2007, 7:46 am\nEpai3a thn Kumo apo ta 0 mecri ta 34lvl.\nEpeidh oloi mou oi gnwstoi ekopsan to game entelws, to stamathsa kai egw.\nEma8a oti h Nefelh epaize se auton ton server parolo p to eixa stamathsei.\nKatw apo "kakes" sun8hkes mpainw ston peirasmo na loggarw, exwntas mail kai account allazw to pass kai mpainw.\nEinai hdh se clan pou anoikei sto ally admirals.\nTo ally auto to kathgorousa gia tis pra3eis tou k to korohdeua epi c4 kai ntrepomoun pou eixa to shma tou.\nEutuxws mesa se auto to ally gnwrisa merika atoma ta opoia ta ekana paraia k akoma ta psaxnw k ektws ally.\nPanta goustara ton loutsa me ta pazaria tou, ton tsoukits1, deboer7, DREAM, multilator, whitesoul, tasikwnwola, o tzampaspe8ane (omg autos ta spaei... need barbie asap)...\nPolles fores petuxainw k thn ZOYPOY k rixnw gelio.\nYparxoun kai atoma pou psaxnw kai ektws admirals... oso mporw tous briskw k pame parties h' spamaroume se pm:\nThn kuria Vera dustuxws otan thn petuxa, to name to exei mia rwssida, kopela dhmotikou...\nProfanws epese rename kai 8a h8ela na thn parakalesw na me brei me ena pm opote mporesei k ama 8elei na me akousei.\nTo afhnw se authn... xara mou an me pm\nKakos den eimai... oute eirwneuthka, apla eipa auta pou eida kai rwthsa auta pou den katalaba... euxaristw pou apanthses alla perimena na ta akousw apo ton idio ton kurio emmanouil, pou mexri kai in game to mono pm pou mou ekane htan mia mera me tis blades tou som otan eixe spasei to valhalla tou o dream... ena "perimene ligo", pou perimena alla ws ekei htan. Den peirazei...\nPleon den eimai admiral ara dn anoikw mazi sas se auto to site... kanw auto to last post mono kai mono na xairethsw thn omada me thn opoia gelasa, tsakw8hka, eirwneutika, palepsa mazi ths...\nNAI mia "sobietikh enwsh" dn morei na elegx8ei apo enan kurie emmanouil... kai oso kai na ginei prospa8eia, OSO kai na niw8oum oloi, duskola 8a emene enwmenh.\nH taktikh pou akolou8hsate k akolou8agate stous kaugades htan dn paw me ton enan, den paw me ton allon, Mesh Lush + sumbibasmos.\nDiafwnw mono sto oti etsi eisastan "epihkhs" opws eipe k h kuria vera.\nAn eixe adiko apla ton 8erizete na zhsoun oi alloi...\nEinai polla pou 8elw na pw alla 3erw oti den 8a akoustw kai dn to sunexizw mhn ginei fasaria sto last post mou.\nOpws leei kai o Mythos kai exei dikio, h clan bloodlegion den anoikei pia edw...\nkai prepei na zhthsw na diagrafw apo ena forum pou den anoikw...\nXairetismous se olous, na eiste k na pernate kala kai na gelate,\nalliws kopste to to rimadi kanei kako ...\nSpammolagos pros anamnhsh enos "kapoiou" char pou ezhse sto ally.\nKapote eimastan mazi...\nDen krataw kakia se kanenan, ti logo 8a xa...\nOpoios me psa3ei 3erei pws 8a me brei ("kumo )\n2 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Thu 15 Nov 2007, 10:44 am\nKumo wrote: Epai3a thn Kumo apo ta 0 mecri ta 34lvl.\nDen Yparxei Logos Na Diagrafeis!\nEinai kai Alla Atoma se Auto To Forum Ta opoia Den Einai Sto Ally "Admirals"!\nMporeis Na Mpeneis Opote Esu Theleis Na Milas Kai Na Kaneis Oti Goustareis Mexri Ena Orio!\nMporei Na Mhn Anhkeis Sto Ally "Admirals" Poia Opws Les,Alla Eisai Filos Kai Tha Meineis Filos!!!\nOi Filoi Menoun Ta Members Feugoun!To Exw Xanapei!\nKai Epeidh Efuges Apo To Ally Ti Egine?Den Xalase O Kosmos!\nHSOUN Admirals EISAI FILOS Kai Mporeis Na Mpeneis Sto Forum!\nAn Kapoios Apofasisei Na Se Kanei Ban H Delete,Egw O Idios Tha Se Bgalw Apo Ban H Tha s Ftiaxw New Account To opoio Tha Stalthei Sto E-Mail Sou!\nOpote,Den Aksizei Ton Kopo!\nAnte Grapse Kana Anekdoto Kai Ase Ths Blakeies!\n3 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Thu 15 Nov 2007, 11:03 am\nTHNX polu admin\n4 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Thu 15 Nov 2007, 11:14 am\nxaxa opws panta eriksa ton pio akyro pshfo\nkumo agaph, ase ta partsap00rtsa , mia xara eimaste edw sto forum kai opws eipe kai o admin (megalh tsaperdwna) kai egw se DIATAZW na grapseis new anekdota :\nps: thelw ally megalo gia na spammarw.. pws tha ginei?\n5 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Thu 15 Nov 2007, 11:24 am\nMegalh koubenta eipes\nTwra espasan sta "3 clans ONLY" ally...\nO basikos logos pou to egrapsa auto einai gt 3ekinhsa to poio "petuxhmeno" se posts kai shzhthsh post sto forum, opou pi8anon na proseballa ton kurio emmanouil... allyleader\nK gia auto 8ewrhsa swsth thn stash mou na apoxwrisw\nEpishs 8elw na milhsw me thn kuria Vera gt mou apanthse ok.\nEinai apo ta atoma mesa sto game pou sumpa8hsa polu k den 8a h8ela na mhn miliwmaste, DEN MPORW NA THN BRW LOGO RENAME.\nAuto einai olo to 8ema... na efeuga k emena me stenaxwrei gt kati tzapes 8a mou leipsoun apisteuta\n(nai thn epilogh WHO ARE YOU thn eballa meta apo polu skepsh gia na mhn se kourasw tzapa )\n6 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Thu 15 Nov 2007, 12:05 pm\nTha Mas Leipseis Polu!\nEmena Proswpika Nai!\n7 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Fri 16 Nov 2007, 11:36 am\nPolloi de "sympa8eite" to mano, i eykola ton parekshgeite epeidh den milaei...to oti de soy milouse den einai gt i8ele na se snomparei, den kserw an ayto ennoeis, alla apla to anaferw gt akouw tetoia parapona apo polloys..o manos einai enas an8rwpos poy dyskola anoigetai, spania milaei..alla otan mpeis sth diadikasia na ton plhsiaseis, gt nai, 8elei prospa8eia na petyxeis kati tetoio, soy dinei k thn psyxh toy.\nKai gi ayto k sto game eixa analabei egw ta "diadikastika", gi ayto k olo milousa, gi ayto k opoios xreiazotan kati panta se emena ape8ynotan.\nPisw omws apo emena panta krybotan o manos, to ally enwmeno o manos to kratage..8es me mia praksh, 8es me mia koubenta pou ana diasthmata petouse. Me kapoio tropo telos pantwn "xarismatiko" pou den mporw na ekshghsw! kai ton lew xarismatiko, gt eilikrina otan den eisai ka8olou diplwmaths, kai eisai kai kapws anti-koinwnikos na to 8esw etsi, dyskola kratas ena ally gia tosa xronia (mias k oi admirals einai hdh apo c4). ( egw fantasoy sto mhna kourasthka:P)\nKai gia na symplhrwsw to profil toy..otan ton "patas" de 8a asxolh8ei gia poly..rixnei mayrh petra pisw toy, den ka8etai na soy allaksei gnwmh, oyte na soy apodeiksei oti o gaidaros den petaei..apla apoxwrei. Eksou k to oti den exei labei meros se kamia apo tis "syzhthseis" mas. To pws ais8an8hke ligoi to kseroyme k isws mono egw. Eytyxws exei ena kalo..koitaei mprosta. Ka8e empodio se kalo, ka8e telos k mia nea arxh.\nNai, rename exw kanei, k spania logarw. 8a i8ela na mpainw perissotero gt kapoioi eilikrina moy leipoyn, alla protimw na akolou8hsw ton antra moy stoys neoys mas stoxoys, pou den einai to game.\nApo to ally 8a moy leipsoyn sygekrimena atoma pou omws den ta xanw mias k ta perissotera einai apo thn clan moy:)\nGia mena admirals htan panw apo ola o tzambaman i alliws barbie girl pou tragoudage gia th fanh, k h fanoula ton fwnaze arravwniarh! O pilgrim k ta deboerakia, tasikwnwola me toys "dialogoys" toys! elfas-daggeras me aytia pou pianoyn nova! O steloysoys pou mas edeixne ton tropo na..kanoume agoria! o man8oulhs me ta gomenakia toy pou paratage ton char toy opou evriske gt kapoia ton eixe parei thl! o dnx aka pamela meta tis dyo! o mythos me to "AVE" k ta wraia "anekdota" k h glykia panta 8eanoula pou toy fwnaze oti parektrepetai ! H nooboskotwstra pou ekane dehseis na exoume drop! o Rass me to spera tekna moy! Esy me to arkoudaki (to latreyw to arkoudaki ayto)! o hajdutibagdatit (epitelous to egrapsa!) me th gnwsth ataka..kane moy pm na se kanw invite (k kati allo 8ymamai apo haj alla den to lew ) k o azel pou mpike dynamika k 8a sas etrwge olous sto spam!\nOi perissoteroi, gia na mhn pw oloi, anhkoyn se dyo clan...ki omws aytoys 8ewrousa egw psyxh toy ally xwris na 8elw na 8iksw kanenan. Kai pisteyw oti polloi symfwneite me osoys anefera, mias k apo oti blepw, deboer, pilgrim, tzambas de leipoyn apo th mnya kanenos!\nAyta loipon moy menoyn sto myalo! k tpt allo!\nEyxomai sthn clan moy na meinei gia panta enwmenh, aytos o phrynas twn 15 atomwn, k apo emena, makari na mpeite se tastan wste h "omerta" na symplhrw8ei ksana!\nkumo, sygnwmh an soy milisa apotoma sto arxiko soy post, alla eilikrina den mporw na akouw tetoia sxolia gia to mano, k pistepse me exw akousei paaara polla ton teleytaio kairo, pou an mh ti allo deixnoyn axaristia k elleipsh sebasmoy. Eidika ayta toy styl...klefths,pousths antras pou epairne ta drops gia party toy, apedeikse oti den aksizei enw kapoioi alloi "aksizoyn" ktl... moy gyrizoyn t antera. k mono oti kseknhse ena ally apo to mhden xwris kamia boi8eia, k den to vrhke etoimo, k to krathse k tosa xronia, shmainei polla\n@(*A*) dmiralS - rass elehse mas!!\n8 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Sat 17 Nov 2007, 12:33 am\nPws allazoun ta pragmata se 12 hmeres.....\nBb Kumo,tha mas leipseis...Hlias edw\n9 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Sat 17 Nov 2007, 7:57 pm\nEgo shmera ekana leave clan gia na mbo tastan otan kano leave clan epese dc ston server(shmadi na to pw?) me to pou loggaro kai eno imouna no clan eixe meinei to title ~ZWNIANO TANK~ kai patao /clanpenalty kai den eixa pari penalty kai meta ekana pm ston jkhurricane ke me ebale stin clan tou tastan\nps: epidi imouna no clan kai eixa to title m kanane sunexeia pm (kala ma pote egines noblesse) kai tous leo kai ego e ama lioneis kai den imouna kai full rec kai leo rec = nobless fullara kai apo rec e meta ta pedia zitagane nobless kai tous leo (no soul ore)\n10 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Sat 17 Nov 2007, 9:18 pm\nAdmin:Tsoukits wrote: Ego shmera ekana leave clan gia na mbo tastan otan kano leave clan epese dc ston server(shmadi na to pw?) me to pou loggaro kai eno imouna no clan eixe meinei to title ~ZWNIANO TANK~ kai patao /clanpenalty kai den eixa pari penalty kai meta ekana pm ston jkhurricane ke me ebale stin clan tou tastan\n11 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...> on Sun 18 Nov 2007, 8:53 pm\n12 Re: JUST A CLOUD (Kumo) <Sas Xairetw...>


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url: = Jeperasan toys 3.000 oi nekroi ston "polemo kata toy tromoy"\n O proedros ths kentrikhs trapezas ths Germanias apokroyei tis protaseis toy neoy proedroy ths Gallias Olant\n Ejoristoi Iranoi kataggelloyn mystikh omada kataskeyhs pyrhnikwn oplwnB� epifylajeis sthn Dysh\nO ariqmos twn apwleiwn stis tajeis twn dynamewn twn kratwn-melwn toy NATO kai symmaxwn toys jeperase tis 3.000 afotoy arxise o polemos sto Afganistan to 2001, symfwna me enan anejarthto istotopo poy katagrafei toys qanatoys stratiwtikwn ths symmaxias.\nO istotopos icasualties.org anaferei oti 3.000 stratiwtikoi --ek twn opoiwn ta dyo trita htan Amerikanoi-- exoyn skotwqei ston afganiko polemo kai synafeis syrrajeis alloy apo to 2001. Oi teleytaies apwleies, oi synolika eji stratiwtes toy NATO poy skotwqhkan xqes Sabbato, den exoyn symperilhfqei akoma ston ariqmo.\nSymfwna me ton istotopo 2.907 stratiwtikoi exoyn skotwqei sto Afganistan ki oi ypoloipoi se alles perioxes toy kosmoy sto plaisio ths legomenhs Epixeirhshs Diarkhs Eleyqeria, opws onomasthke epishma o "polemos kata toy tromoy" meta tis epiqeseis ths 11hs Septembrioy 2001.\nMono fetos exoyn skotwqei panw apo 150 jenoi stratiwtes sto Afganistan, symfwna me ton istotopo. To 2011, eixan skotwqei 566.\nOi HPA exoyn ypostei 1.968 apwleies ston polemo, symfwna me ta stoixeia. H Bretania akoloyqei me 412 apwleies, enw o Kanadas brisketai sthn trith qesh me 158 qanatoys stratiwtikwn. Apo to 2011 o Kanadas exei mono ekpaideytes, oxi maximes dynameis, sto Afganistan.\nH notia eparxia Xelmant, epikentro ths kalliergeias opiopaparoynas, einai h pio epikindynh toy Afganistan gia thn dieqnh stratiwtikh symmaxia, me 851 apwleies. Oi aytosxedioi ekrhktikoi mhxanismoi poy topoqetoyntai se dromoys einai h kyrioterh aitia qanatoy twn jenwn stratiwtikwn ki exoyn prokalesei panw apo tis mises apwleies.\nO proedros ths kentrikhs trapezas ths Germanias Gens Baintman xarakthrise epikindyno --apeyqynomenos ston eklegmeno proedro ths Gallias Fransoya Olant--, to na allajei to katastatiko kai o rolos ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas (EKT), to na allajoyn osa problepei to dhmosionomiko symfwno h to na dhmioyrghqei xreos, se mia synenteyjh toy h opoia dhmosieyqhke xqes.\nSth synenteyjh toy sthn efhmerida Sueddeutsche Zeitung, o Baintman ypenqymise parallhla oti h Ellada ofeilei na thrhsei tis ypoxrewseis poy exei analabei h kindyneyei na diakopei h oikonomikh bohqeia.\n"Opoiadhpote tropopoihsh toy katastatikoy [ths EKT] qa htan epikindynh", eipe o Baintman erwthqeis sxetika me thn protash toy Olant sthn diarkeia ths proeklogikhs toy ekstrateias na epitrapei sthn Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza na lambanei metra yposthrijhs ths oikonomias h na xrhmatodotei apeyqeias krath.\n"Oi qeseis apasxolhshs kai h oikonomikh anaptyjh einai karpos twn emporikwn synallagwn. H kentrikh trapeza exei apostolh na symballei sthn [eyrwpaikh] nomismatikh staqerothta", prosqese.\nAnaferomenos ston plhqwrismo o Baintman eipe oti "prepei na perimenoyme to teliko programma ths kybernhshs" toy Fransoya Olant, o opoios anamenetai na episkeftei thn Trith to Berolino. Omws einai "safes oti prepei na aporricoyme thn desmeysh ths ekstrateias toy na yparjei epanadiapragmateysh toy eyrwpaikoy dhmosionomikoy symfwnoy".\n"Yparxei ena eyrwpaiko eqimo oti prepei throyntai oi symfwnies poy exoyn ypografei", shmeiwse.\nMilwntas gia ta sxedia tonwshs ths anaptyjhs, yposthrije oti ayto den prepei na ginei mesw neoy xreoys. "H nea lejh gia ton entypwsiasmo toy akroathrioy einai 'anaptyjh', nai, jerw. Alla o kaqenas katalabainei allo pragma apo ton oro ayto. . . H empeiria deixnei oti to yperboliko xreos apotelei troxopedh gia thn anaptyjh. To na katapolemhqei to xreos me perissotero xreos, ayto den qa leitoyrghsei".\nAnaferomenos ston plhqwrismo, o Baintman epemeine oti opoiadhpote protash na epitrapei na ayjhqei einai esfalmenh: "aytos einai enas epikindynos dromos", eipe. "Den prepei na epanalaboyme ta sfalmata ths dekaetias toy 1970. O plhqwrismos einai koinwnika adikos kai den qa mas epitrecei na bgoyme apo thn krish". Htan h deyterh fora mesa se dyo meres poy o Baintman epanhlqe sto qema. Se synenteyjh toy sth Zintoitse Tsaitoyngk poy eixe dhmosieytei thn Paraskeyh, o Baintman eixe kanei logo peri "paraloghs syzhthshs", anaferomenos stis protaseis oikonomologwn na epitrapei na ayjhqei o plhqwrismos wste na tonwqei h egxwria zhthsh, kati poy ferotan oti htan diateqeimenos na anexqei o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn Bolfgkangk Soimple.\nMia organwsh ths ejorisths iranikhs antipoliteyshs yposthrije xqes oti 60 episthmones kai mhxanikoi symmetexoyn se ena syntonismeno kai megeqynomeno programma gia thn anaptyjh pyrhnikwn oplwn ypo thn aigida toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas ths Islamikhs Dhmokratias toy Iran.\nWstoso diplwmates aneferan pws to Eqniko Symboylio Antistashs toy Iran (National Council of Resistance of Iran, NCRI) syxna probainei se anakribeis kathgories gia to pyrhniko programma ths xwras, an kai eixe kataggeilei thn yparjh toy mystikoy ergostasioy employtismoy oyranioy sto Natanz to 2002. Enas diakekrimenos eidikos stis HPA gia pyrhnika qemata ektimhse h ekqesh ths organwshs, opws kai arketes prohgoymenes, prepei na antimetwpistei me ejairetikh epifylajh.\nH anafora ths organwshs, oi leptomereies ths opoias den einai dynato na epalhqeytoyn, moiazei na doqhke sthn dhmosiothta enocei toy deyteroy gyroy twn synomiliwn anamesa sthn omada 5+1 (ta pente monima melh toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE?HPA, Rwsia, Kina, Bretania, Gallia?kai h Germania) thn 23h Maioy. Nwritera, thn Deytera, h Dieqnhs Yphresia Atomikhs Energeias (IAEA) qa ejetasei zhthmata sxetika me to pyrhniko programma toy Iran sth synedriash toy dioikhtikoy ths symboylioy sth Biennh.\nO isxyrismos poy diatypwnetai se mia 6selidh anafora poy epideixqhke sto eidhseografiko praktoreio Roiters erxetai se antiqesh me tis ektimhseis ajiwmatoyxwn twn yphresiwn plhroforiwn twn HPA kai toy Israhl, kata tis opoies to Iran den exei apofasisei ean qa metatrecei se opliko to pyrhniko toy programma. H Texeranh epimenei oti diylizei oyranio mono gia thn paragwgh energeias kai iatrikoys skopoys. Sthn ekqesh toy, to NCRI epikaleitai phges sthn kybernhsh kai sto strato ths Islamikhs Dhmokratias poy ferontai na lene oti ginetai ereyna gia thn kataskeyh pyrhnikwn kefalwn se 11 yphresies, mystika, ypo ton elegxo toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas.\n"Plhrofories. . . katadeiknyoyn oti to klhrikalistiko kaqestws exei epekteinei thn organwsh sthn opoia exei anaqesei thn anaptyjh pyrhnikwn oplwn", anaferetai sthn anafora. Yparxei mia "plhrhs", "periplokh", "idiaitera mystikh domh kai ena diktyo promhqeias twn apaitoymenwn ejarthmatwn kai toy ejoplismoy", prostiqetai. "Ws twra, exoyn entopistei oi taytothtes 60 dieyqyntwn kai eidikwn poy ergazontai se diafora tmhmata toy Organismoy Neas Amyntikhs Ereynas se 11 qesmoys kai etairies poy sxetizontai me ayton".\nH anafora periexei diagrammata kai organogrammata enw katonomazei episthmones kai mhxanikoys poy ferontai oti symmetexoyn sto programma.\nTo NCRI, mia organwsh-omprela pente ejoristwn organwsewn ths antipoliteyshs poy epidiwkoyn thn anatroph toy siitikoy islamikoy kaqestwtos sto Iran, kalei sthn anafora toy thn IAEA na arxisei mia "ejonyxistikh ereyna" gia to pyrhniko programma toy Iran kai olo to proswpiko to opoio leei pws symmetexei se ayto.\nTo Iran leei oti dhmioyrgei ena apoqema employtismenoy oyranioy gia ena mellontiko diktyo pyrhnikwn hlektroparagwgikwn ergostasiwn. H pempth megalyterh petrelaioejagwgikh xwra toy kosmoy kathgoreitai apo dytikes dynameis kai to Israhl oti empodizei thn ereyna ths IAEA gia tis feromenes ws stratiwtikes diastaseis ths pyrhnikhs ths drasthriothtas.\nOi dieqneis dynameis poy prospaqoyn na elegjoyn thn pyrhnikh drasthriothta toy Iran mesw diapragmateysewn qeloyn na apofygoyn to endexomeno na jespaei neos polemos sthn Mesh Anatolh, kaqws h hgesia toy Israhl exei proeidopoihsei epaneilhmmena oti ejetazei to endexomeno na probei se aeroporikes epidromes stis iranikes pyrhnikes egkatastaseis.\nOi dytikes xwres exoyn aporricei kaqe periptwsh na termatistoyn oi kyrwseis poy exei epiballei o OHE ws proypoqesh gia na yparjei symfwnia.\nSe mia tetramhniaia ekqesh ths IAEA poy doqhke sthn dhmosiothta to Febroyario, h yphresia ekane logo gia genika ajiopistes plhrofories poy katadeiknyoyn oti to Iran proebh se drasthriothtes poy qa mporoysan na sxetizontai me thn anaptyjh pyrhnikwn oplwn, alla xwris na yparxoyn apodeijeis peri enos energoy oplikoy programmatos.\nTo NCRI qewreitai h politikh pteryga ths Organwshs twn Moytzaxentin toy Laoy toy Iran (PMOI). H Oyasingkton qewrei thn PMOI tromokratikh organwsh.\nO Nteibint Olmprait, epikefalhs enos institoytoy ereynas poy edreyei sthn Oyasingkton, parakoloyqei to pyrhniko programma toy Iran kai diaqetei prosbash se eyaisqhtes plhrofories, eipe oti "prepei na eimaste ejairetika epifylaktikoi apenanti se o,ti leei [to NCRI]". Ejhghse oti prokeitai "gia mia organwsh aktibistwn poy exei terastio kinhtro na pei pws yparxei ena iraniko pyrhniko programma poy shmeiwnei pragmatikh proodo", erwthqeis sxetika me thn anafora. Gia ton idio, "to problhma einai oti employtizoyn isxyrismoys me leptomereies. . . [xwris] apodeijeis. Apla den jereis an osa lene [ta melh ths organwshs] einai alhqeia h oxi".\nana2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 13 May 2012 - 0:30:33 UTC


url: =Read Online Bible - Modern Greek Bible online on Jesus Work Ministry Judges Chapter 10:1-18.\nJUDG 10:1  Kai eshkwqh meta ton Abimelec dia na swsh ton Israhl Qwla o uioV tou Foua, uiou tou Dwdw, anhr tou Issacar× kai autoV katwkei en Samir en tw orei Efraim.\nJUDG 10:2 Kai ekrine ton Israhl eikositria eth× kai apeqane, kai etafh en Samir.\nJUDG 10:3 Kai met' auton eshkwqh Iaeir o GalaadithV kai ekrine ton Israhl eikosiduo eth.\nJUDG 10:4 Eice de triakonta uiouV, oitineV epebainon eiV triakonta pwlaria kai eicon triakonta poleiV, kaloumenaV Cwrai tou Iaeir ewV thV shmeron, aitineV einai en gh Galaad.\nJUDG 10:5 Apeqane de o Iaeir, kai etafh en Kamwn.\nJUDG 10:6  Kai epraxan palin oi uioi Israhl ponhra enwpion tou Kuriou kai elatreusan touV Baaleim kai taV Astarwq kai touV qeouV thV Aram kai touV qeouV thV SidwnoV kai touV qeouV tou Mwab kai touV qeouV twn uiwn Ammwn kai touV qeouV twn Filistaiwn, kai egkatelipon ton Kurion kai den elatreusan auton.\nJUDG 10:7 Kai exhfqh o qumoV tou Kuriou enantion tou Israhl, kai epwlhsen autouV eiV thn ceira twn Filistaiwn kai eiV thn ceira twn uiwn Ammwn.\nJUDG 10:8 Kai ex ekeinou tou etouV kateqliyan kai katedunasteusan touV uiouV Israhl dekaoktw eth, pantaV touV uiouV Israhl touV peran tou Iordanou, en th gh twn Amorraiwn, htiV einai en Galaad.\nJUDG 10:9 Kai diebhsan oi uioi Ammwn ton Iordanhn, dia na polemhswsi kai enantion tou Iouda kai enantion tou Beniamin kai enantion tou oikou Efraim× wste o Israhl hto en akra amhcania.\nJUDG 10:10  Kai ebohsan oi uioi Israhl proV ton Kurion, legonteV, Hmarthsamen eiV se, dioti egkatelipomen ton Qeon hmwn kai elatreusamen touV Baaleim.\nJUDG 10:11 Kai eipe KurioV proV touV uiouV Israhl, Den saV elutrwsa apo twn Aiguptiwn kai apo twn Amorraiwn, apo twn uiwn Ammwn kai apo twn Filistaiwn;\nJUDG 10:12 oi Sidwnioi eti kai oi Amalhkitai kai oi Mawnitai saV kateqliyan× kai ebohsate proV eme, kai egw saV elutrwsa ek thV ceiroV autwn×\nJUDG 10:13 alla seiV me egkatelipete kai elatreusate allouV qeouV× dia touto den qelw saV lutrwsei pleon×\nJUDG 10:14 upagete kai bohsate proV touV qeouV touV opoiouV exelexate× autoi aV saV lutrwswsin en tw kairw thV amhcaniaV saV.\nJUDG 10:15 Kai eipan proV ton Kurion oi uioi Israhl, Hmarthsamen× kame su eiV hmaV opwV einai areston eiV touV ofqalmouV sou× plhn lutrwson hmaV, deomeqa, thn hmeran tauthn.\nJUDG 10:16 Kai apebalon touV qeouV touV xenouV ek mesou autwn kai elatreusan ton Kurion, kai esplagcnisqh h yuch autou eiV thn dustucian tou Israhl.\nJUDG 10:17 Tote sunhcqhsan oi uioi Ammwn kai estratopedeusan en Galaad. Kai sunhqroisqhsan oi uioi Israhl kai estratopedeusan en Mispa.\nJUDG 10:18 Kai eipon o laoV, oi arconteV thV Galaad, proV allhlouV, TiV qelei arcisei na polemh enantion twn uiwn Ammwn; autoV qelei eisqai archgoV epi pantwn twn katoikwn thV Galaad.


url: = Qermhs ypodoxhs etyxe o Patriarxhs Kyrillos sthn eleyqerh Ammoxwsto\n Mexri shmera taytopoihqhkan ta leicana 321 agnooymenwn\nQermhs ypodoxhs sthn eleyqerh eparxia Ammoxwstoy etyxe o Patriarxhs Mosxas kai Paswn twn Rwsiwn Kyrillos, synodeyomenos apo ton Arxiepiskopo Kyproy Xrysostomo B'. O Patriarxhs diabebaiwse pws qa synexisei na bohqa wste to problhma twn prosfygwn ths Kyproy na epilyqei kai na epistrecoyn sta spitia kai stis perioysies toys.\nO Patriarxhs episkefqhke to prwi to Politistiko Kentro ths katexomenhs Ammoxwstoy sth Deryneia, apo opoy atenise thn sklabwmenh polh ths Ammoxwstoy. Ekei, ton ypodexqhkan o Antidhmarxos Ammoxwstoy kai Dhmarxeywn Simos Iwannoy kai o Dhmarxos Deryneias Antros Karagiannhs, kaqws kai melh twn Dhmotikwn Symboyliwn Ammoxwstoy kai Deryneias.\nO Patriarxhs dexqhke ws dwra mia eikona toy Agioy Nikolaoy apo ton k. Iwannoy kai ena phlino amforea, antigrafo toy amforea poy brisketai sto arxaiologiko moyseio sth Leykwsia. Prokeitai gia amforea ths gewmetrikhs periodoy, ston opoio apotypwnetai h makroxronh istoria ths Kyproy.\nSth synexeia, o Patriarxhs Kyrillos etyxe qermhs ypodoxhs sthn kentrikh plateia Agioy Gewrgioy sto Paralimni, opoy stratiwtiko apospasma ths Eqnikhs Froyras apedwse times. O Dhmarxos Paralimnioy Qeodwros Pyrillhs, ypodexomenos ton Patriarxh, ton kalwsorise kai toy zhthse opws me thn kaqarh kai megalh fwnh poy diaqetei, staqei sto plai twn Kypriwn orqodojwn Xristianwn, kai kyriws twn katoikwn Ammoxwstoy, oi opoioi anamenoyn na epistrecoyn sta katexomena spitia kai perioysies toys.\nAkoloyqws, telesthke dojologia ston Mhtropolitiko Nao Agioy Gewrgioy. Sthn prosfwnhsh toy, o Mhtropoliths Kwnstantias-Ammoxwstoy Basileios anaferqhke stis stenes sxeseis poy diathroyntai apo palia metajy toy kypriakoy kai toy rwsikoy laoy. Anaferqhke epishs sthn katoxh kai sthn katastrofh ths ekklhsiastikhs klhronomias sta katexomena kai kalese ton Patriarxh na energhsei me tetoio tropo wste na toy doqei h eykairia, thn epomenh fora poy qa episkefqei thn Kypro, na ton filojenhsei sth fysikh edra ths Mhtropolhs, sthn Ammoxwsto.\nSthn antifwnhsh toy, o Patriarxhs Kyrillos eipe oti to 1970, otan episkefqhke thn Kypro synodeyontas ton tote Patriarxh, eide mia Ammoxwsto omorfh, me wraia teixh kai ezhse apo konta th filojenia twn Kypriwn. O Patriarxhs ekane idiaiterh anafora sthn Iera Monh toy Apostoloy Barnaba, thn opoia episkefqhke tote, kai stoys treis monaxoys ths Monhs, toys perifhmoys, opws eipe, agiografoys. Eyxhqhke akomh opws sthn epomenh toy episkech sthn Kypro, leitoyrghsei ston Kaqedriko Nao toy Agioy Nikolaoy se mia eleyqerh Ammoxwsto, eyxh poy egrace kai sto Biblio Episkeptwn toy Politistikoy Kentroy ths katexomenhs Ammoxwstoy.\nO Patriarxhs Kyrillos eipe pws qa synexisei na bohqa kai na frontizei wste to problhma twn prosfygwn ths Kyproy na epilyqei gia na dikaiwqoyn oi prosfyges kai na epistrecoyn sta spitia kai stis perioysies toys.\nApo to 2007 mexri kai shmera exoyn oloklhrwqei synolika 321 taytopoihseis agnooymenwn, apo toys opoioys oi 66 einai Toyrkokyprioi, symfwna me ton ekproswpo ths ellhnokypriakhs pleyras sthn Diereynhtikh Epitroph gia toys Agnooymenoys (DEA) Aristo Aristoteloys.\nMilwntas se ektakth synedria ths Pagkyprias Organwshs Syggenwn Adhlwtwn Aixmalwtwn kai Agnooymenwn o k. Aristoteloys anefere oti kata to 2007 eginan 56 taytopoihseis, to 2008 eginan 53, to 2009 eginan 83, to 2010 eginan 71, to 2011 eginan 51 enw mexri shmera kata to 2012 eginan 7 taytopoihseis.\nEipe akoma oti apo tis synolika 321 taytopoihseis oi 66 aforoyn Toyrkokyprioys.\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Saturday, 9 June 2012 - 11:29:09 UTC


url: = GREENTREE - OLOKLHRWSH PRWTOY GYROY SYNOMILIWN\n NTAOYNER - DHLWSEIS\nMe synanthsh ths diapragmateytikhs omadas twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn me thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra, epanalhfqhkan to apogeyma oi ek toy syneggys diapragmateyseis poy diejagontai sto sygkrothma Greentree toy Longk Ailant ths Neas Yorkhs.\nPrin apo to geyma poy parateqhke stis antiproswpeies, stis 1:30 m.m., eixe pragmatopoihqei analogh synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Dhmhtrh Xristofia kai thn ellhnokypriakh antiproswpeia.\nSthn enarkthria synanthsh twn synomiliwn, paroysia toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE kai twn dyo diapragmateytikwn omadwn, milhsan o Mpan gki-Moyn kai oi dyo hgetes.\nSymfwna me plhrofories, h topoqethsh toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE den perieixe ekplhjeis. O k. Mpan zhthse apo toys dyo hgetes na kataballoyn gnhsia prospaqeia sto dihmero twn synomiliwn, gia na jeperasoyn shmantika empodia poy yparxoyn sta basika kefalaia, poy qa toy epitrecei na probei se antikeimenikh ajiologhsh ths katastashs.\nO Proedros Xristofias, symfwna me thn idia phgh, anaferqhke sthn ektimhsh ths e/k pleyras gia tis entatikes synomilies, oi opoies, opws eipe, den apedwsan ta anamenomena, enw o k. Erogloy epemeine oti mporoyn na oloklhrwqoyn oi synanthseis metajy twn dyo hgetwn mexri to telos toy xronoy kai sth synexeia olo to pare-dwsei na paei se mia pentamerh diaskech.\nSton prwto gyro twn ek toy syneggys synomiliwn poy akoloyqhse, syzhthqhkan ta oysiwdh qemata opoy yparxoyn akomh megales diafwnies, me prwto ayto ths diakybernhshs, sto opoio h toyrkokypriakh pleyra exei ypanaxwrhsei, se sygkrish me osa eixe apodexqei o Mexmet Ali Talat.\nEyxaristhmena me ton tropo poy badizoyn ta pragmata stis synomilies toy Greentree dhlwnoyn ta Hnwmena Eqnh. O eidikos symboylos toy genikoy grammatea, Alejanter Ntaoyner, milwntas stoys dhmosiografoys meta thn oloklhrwsh twn diapragmateysewn ths prwths hmeras kai prin oles oi antiproswpeies parakaqisoyn sto deipno, eipe oti oi syzhthseis poy elaban xwra htan ``qetikes, paragwgikes kai entones''.\nO eidikos symboylos toy genikoy grammatea htan kathgorhmatikos, apantwntas se erwthma, an ta Hnwmena Eqnh ypoballoyn stis pleyres gefyrwtikes prostaseis, tonizontas oti den exoyn ypoblhqei tetoies protaseis kai o rolos toys dieqnoys organismoy den einai oyte epidiaithtikos, oyte diamesolabhtikos.\n``Oxi den exoyme ypobalei. Den prokeitai na eimaste epidiaithtes se aythn th diadikasia. To exoyme dhlwsei epaneilhmmena, oti den qa eimaste oyte epidiaithtes, oyte diamesolabhtes, alla qa eimaste eytyxeis an mporoyme na eimaste oso pio bohqhtikoi mporoyme. Den exoyme ypobalei gefyrwtikes protaseis. Ayto poy kaname einai na miloyme stis dyo pleyres ektenws, gia tis qeseis poy exoyn kai na syzhtoyme tis qeseis ths allhs pleyras, wste na yparjei plhrhs katanohsh twn qesewn.. Alla sto telos ths hmeras, ean oi dyo pleyres qa epityxoyn sygkliseis prepei na kanoyn tis dikes toys sygkliseis. Ta Hnwmena Eqnh den mporoyn na toys epibaloyn otidhpote kai den exoyme proqesh na to kanoyme''.\nSto erwthma an ta Hnwmena Eqnh anamenoyn odiko xarth meta tis synanthseis, o eidikos symboylos toy genikoy grammatea gia to kypriako eipe pws to ti qa symbei meta tis synanthseis qa anakoinwqei apo to geniko grammatea, eite to brady ths Deyteras eite to piqanotero thn Trith to prwi.\nAsafhs htan o k. Ntaoyner sthn apanthsh toy gia thn dhlwsh poy anamenetai na kanei thn Trith to prwi o genikos grammateas, gia thn oloklhrwsh twn dihmerwn synomiliwn. Kat arxhn eipe pws den exei akomh apofasistei h forma. Apantwntas se erwthsh toy KYPE giati ayth th fora den qa ginei h dhlwsh paroysia twn dyo hgetwn, o k. Ntaoyner eipe:\n``Den yparxei oydeis logos ayth th stigmh, giati na mhn einai plaisiwmenos apo toys dyo hgetes. Den einai zhthma ayto. An epiqymoyn na einai ekei, einai eyprosdektoi. Eilikrina den exoyme akomh ejetasei ayth th leptomereia, oyte kan to skefthkame. An to epiqymoyn na einai ekei me to geniko grammatea einai plhrws eyprosdektoi. Apantwntas sto erwthma giati akoloyqhqhke h morfh twn ek toy syneggys synomiliwn, o k. Ntaoyner eipe pws prokeitai gia ena meigma apeyqeias kai ek toy syneggys to opoio fainetai oti doyleyei arketa kala.\n``Prospaqoyme panta na skeftomaste kati diaforetiko, skeftomaste panta dhmioyrgikoys kai epoikodomhtikoys tropoys gia na wqhsoyme th diadikasia pros ta empros. Xreiazetai na ekplhrwsoyme tis ypoxrewseis mas pros to Symboylio Asfaleias'', symplhrwse. Se nea erwthse an ayth h diadikasia shmainei pws ypoballontai apo ta Hnwmena Eqnh gefyrwtikes protaseis, eipe: ``Akoyme o,ti mas lene kai syzhtoyme mazi toys tis skeceis toys. Exoyme mazi toys ekteneis syzhthseis. Ayto den einai to idio ws na ypoballeis gefyrwtikes protaseis''.\nkypegr2html 2.01 run on Monday, 31 October 2011 - 10:29:16 UTC


url: = Asqenhs seismos ston Eyboiko kolpo\n Sfodres maxes se oloklhro to Irak\n Erntogan: Symfwnoyme se ola me tis HPA\n Mpoys: ''Twra arxizoyn ta dyskola''\n To arxaiotero Panepisthmio twn arabwn, stoxos twn eisbolewn\n Mpasket: Epikrathse to Peristeri kai epi toy OSFP\n Nikh toy Olympiakoy epi toy Arh\n23/3/2003 9:48:00 mm\nAsqenhs seismikh donhsh megeqoys 3,9 baqmwn ths klimakas Rixter shmeiwqhke stis 20.53 sto notio Eyboiko kolpo, anatolika apo to Grammatiko Attikhs. O seismos htan epifaneiakos kai egine aisqhtos sthn eyryterh perioxh. Mexri stigmhs den exoyn anaferqei zhmies.\n23/3/2003 11:50:00 mm\nHremia epikratei ayth thn wra sth Bagdath. Nwritera isxyres ekrhjeis apo bombes, pyrkagies kai synnefa kapnoy htan orata apo ta perixwra ths polhs, symfwna me toys antapokrites toy praktoreioy Roiters, enw symfwna me ton antapokrith ths NET, sfodroi bombardismoi kai antiaeroporika pyra shmeiwnontai sth Mosoylh. Bomba poy epese apo aeroskafos poy ekteloyse xamhlh pthsh, eplhje to ktirio toy proedrikoy megaroy sth irakinh prwteyoysa, anefere apo thn pleyra toy antapokriths toy Gallikoy Praktoreioy. Thn idia wra epibebaiwnetai kai apo thn amerikanikh dioikhsh twn enoplwn dynamewn o qanatos kai h syllhch Amerikanwn stratiwtwn. Qa parei poly xrono gia na elegjoyn "ta stoixeia poy sthrijoyn to kaqestws" se poleis opws h Basora kai h Nasirigia, paradexqhkan thn Kyriakh oi HPA.\nNekroi kai aixmalwtoi stratiwtes twn eisbolewn\nOi 5 Amerikanoi aixmalwtoi\nOpws dhlwse thn Kyriakh to brady ekproswpos ths amerikanikhs dioikhshs sto Katar, agnoeitai h tyxh synolika 12 Amerikanwn stratiwtwn poy phran meros stis sklhroteres --opws tis xarakthrise--maxes mexri stigmhs gia thn katalhch ths Nasirigia.\nO idios epibebaiwse oti yparxoyn ligoteroi apo 10 Amerikanoi nekroi kai arketoi traymaties, kati poy eixe anakoinwsei nwritera kai ekproswpos toy amerikanikoy Pentagwnoy poy paradexthke akomh thn yparjh Amerikanwn aixmalwtwn alla kai thn ptwsh bretanikoy aeroskafoys apo amerikaniko pyraylo Patriot. O ekproswpos ths dioikhshs eipe akomh oti syntoma ta amerikano-bretanika strateymata qa ftasoyn sta perixwra ths Bagdaths.\nTo Irak qa symperiferqei stoys Amerikanoys aixmalwtoys me bash ta osa problepei h Synqhkh ths Geneyhs, dhlwse apoce o Irakinos ypoyrgos Amynas, apantwntas stis dhlwseis toy Amerikanoy omologoy toy gia parabiash ths synqhkhs, epeidh metadoqhkan eikones twn aixmalwtwn apo thn irakinh thleorash.\nTo Irak ofeilei na antimetwpisei toys aixmalwtoys me anqrwpismo, dhlwse kai o Amerikanos Proedros, tonizontas oti oi epixeirhseis shmeiwnoyn proodo, alla kai oti mia sklhrh maxh molis arxise. Prosqese de oti anqrwpistikh bohqeia qa metaferqei sto Irak entos 36 wrwn.\n"O polemos badizei basei sxedioy" dhlwse o prwqypoyrgos ths Bretanias Toni Mpler apeyqynomenos thn Kyriakh to brady stis Enoples Dynameis kai eidikotera sta strateymata poy briskontai ston Persiko Kolpo. Den pareleice, de, na katadikasei ton tropo me ton opoio fainetai na ferontai oi Irakinoi stoys aixmalwtoys, ypogrammizontas oti ayth h metaxeirish apotelei katafwrh parabiash ths synqhkhs ths Geneyhs.\nH irakinh thleorash metedwse thn Kyriakh eikones 5 Amerikanwn aixmalwtwn stratiwtwn, metajy twn opoiwn mia gynaika, kaqws kai tessarwn ptwmatwn amerikanwn poy yposthrije oti exasan th zwh toys se maxes sth Nasirigia. Symfwna me ajiwmatoyxoys toy amerikanikoy Pentagwnoy, ta ptwmata twn amerikanwn feroyn shmadia ekteleshs.\nAnakoinwqen toy irakinoy stratoy anaferei oti 25 Amerikanoi kai Bretanoi stratiwtes skotwqhkan stis maxes ths Nasirigia, enw o Irakinos ypoyrgos Amynas, eipe akomh oti katastrafhkan 10 armata maxhs kai 20 qwrakismena oxhmata metaforas proswpikoy twn eisbolewn.\nSe ejelijh epixeirhseis se oloklhro to Irak- Qymata amaxoi\nEn tw metajy, Amerikanos ajiwmatoyxos dhlwse anwnyma oti Rwsoi texnikoi briskontai sth Bagdath kai bohqoyn toys irakinoys na paremballoyn parasita sta doryforika shmata gia thn kaqodhghsh twn bombwn.\nEpishs Toyrkos ajiwmatoyxos anefere oti pyraylos apo aeroskafos epese kai ejerragh konta se xwrio ths notioanatolikhs Toyrkias, dhmioyrgwntas mikro krathra.\nKata toys nyxterinoys bombardismoys toy Sabbatoy, xtyphqhke ergostasio paragwghs reymatos sth Bagdath kai ena apo ta pio diashma panepisthmia toy Irak poy xronologeitai apo ton 13o aiwna.\nEpiqeseis dexthkan epishs h Mosoylh kai to Kirkoyk, enw sfodroys bombardismoys dexthke kai h polh Tikrit, idiaiterh patrida toy Santam.\nSymfwna me irakines phges, apo toys aeroporikoys bombardismoys se Basora kai Tikrit skotwqhkan toylaxiston 80 amaxoi kai traymatisthkan panw apo 380 atoma.\nTeleytaios apologismos anaferei oti mono sthn Bagdath --apo thn hmera poy jekinhsan oi bombardismoi-- exoyn traymatistei 321 amaxoi.\nEpishs enas akomh dhmosiografos bretanikoy thleoptikoy diktyoy poy agnoeitai apo to Sabbato, anakoinwqhke thn Kyriakh to brady oti einai nekros, enw agnoeitai akomh h tyxh dyo synergatwn toy.\nTelos, allos enas Rwsos antapokriths eyrwpaikoy diktyoy exase th zwh toy sth Basora kai alloi treis Galloi dhmosiografoi, synelhfqhsan apo toys Irakinoys gia paranomh eisodo sthn xwra.\nSampri: ''Den exoyn katalabei kamia polh''\nKamia irakinh polh den exei pesei sta xeria twn amerikano-bretanikwn dynamewn, dhlwse kata thn afijh toy sto Kairo o Irakinos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Natzi Sampri, o opoios kathgorhse epishs to Israhl oti metexei "sthn epiqesh" kata toy Irak.\nNwritera apo th Damasko kalese tis kybernhseis twn arabikwn xwrwn na yposthrijoyn th xwra toy ston polemo me tis HPA kai proeidopoihse thn Toyrkia na mhn bohqhsei toys Amerikanoys, giati qa ypostei polla deina.\nTo thleoptiko diktyo CNN Turk metedwse oti oi Amerikanoi apoxwroyn ap' oles tis baseis poy staqmeyoyn sthn Toyrkia. To Iran proeidopoihse telos oti qa apanthsei an yparjoyn nees parabiaseis toy enaerioy xwroy h twn synorwn toy.\n23/3/2003 11:19:00 mm\nSafes mhnyma pros thn Toyrkia na mhn eisbalei sto Boreio Irak, apesteile thn Kyriakh o Tzortz Mpoys. H Toyrkia symfwnei me tis Hnwmenes Politeies gia ola ta zhthmata poy sxetizontai me to Irak kai gia th boylhsh ths Agkyras na steilei strateymata sto borra ths xwras ayths, anefere se omilia toy pros to eqnos thn Kyriakh to brady o Toyrkos prwqypoyrgos Retzep Tagip Erntogan. Thn Kyriakh h kybernhsh Erntogan elabe kai typika chfo empistosynhs, prokeimenoy na xeiristei to qema twn amerikano-toyrkikwn sxesewn.\nDiaggelma Toyrkoy prwqypoyrgoy\n''Oi stratiwtikes dieyqethseis poy qa kanoyme se mia periorismenh zwnh pera apo ta (toyrkika) synora exei skopo na sygkrathsei mia piqanh eisroh prosfygwn kai na empodisei orismenes proklhseis poy stoxeyoyn thn asfaleia mas'', eipe sto diaggelma toy o prwqypoyrgos ths Toyrkias. Ektimhse de, oti h paroysia Toyrkwn stratiwtwn sthn perioxh ayth qa einai phgh staqerothtas kai asfaleias gia thn Toyrkia kai thn perioxh''.\nO Erntogan, poy ypogrammise oti h diasfalish ths edafikhs akeraiothtas toy geitonikoy Irak einai aparaithth, prosqese oti ''se ola ayta ta zhthmata'', h Toyrkia kai oi Hnwmenes Politeies katelhjan se symfwnia. ''H Toyrkia exei th dynamh na prostateysei thn asfaleia kai ta symferonta ths'', diabebaiwse o epikefalhs ths toyrkikhs kybernhshs.\nSyskeceis epi syskecewn\nThn Kyriakh, epishs, pragmatopoihqhke syskech metajy Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn, sthn opoia symmeteixe kai o Amerikanos presbhs sthn Agkyra Rompert Pirson me stoxo thn epiteyjh mias symfwnias- plaisio gia thn periorismenh eisodo twn toyrkikwn strateymatwn sto Boreio Irak.\nTh Deytera anamenetai sthn prwteyoysa ths Toyrkias o eidikos symboylos toy proedroy Mpoys, Zalmai Xalil Zant, o opoios qa synanthqei me Toyrkoys ajiwmatoyxoys prokeimenoy na kaqoristoyn oi leptomereies ths symfwnias.\nPantws, se synenteyjh toy sto amerikaniko diktyo CNN o ypoyrgos Amynas twn HPA Ntonalnt Ramsfelnt dhlwse oti oi amerikanikes mystikes yphresies ton exoyn diabebaiwsei oti den yparxei shmantikos ariqmos toyrkikwn dynamewn sto Boreio Irak.\nShmeiwnetai, telos, oti to Belgio exei proeidopoihsei thn Toyrkia na mhn eisbalei sto boreio Irak, giati sthn periptwsh ayth h EE qa epanejetasei to aithma ths gia entajh stoys kolpoys ths.\n23/3/2003 8:58:00 mm\n''Poly safes'' einai to mhnyma poy exoyn aposteilei oi HPA sthn Toyrkia, na mhn eisbalei sto boreio Irak, diabebaiwse thn Kyriakh o Amerikanos proedros Tzortz Mpoys, enw gia ton polemo sto Irak dhlwse oti ''h sklhrh maxh molis arxise''. Epishs anakoinwse oti entos 36 wrwn qa apostalei anqrwpistikh bohqeia sthn arabikh ayth xwra kai epishmane oti enhmerwqhke gia thn aixmalwsia Amerikanwn stratiwtwn, gia toys opoioys elpizei se mia anqrwpistikh symperifora ek meroys toy Irak.\n''Den gnwrizw oles tis leptomereies. Gnwrizw oti anamenoyme na toys ferqoyn anqrwpina, opws feromaste kai emeis stoys dikoys toys'', eipe o Mpoys stoys dhmosiografoys kata thn epistrofh toy apo to Kamp Nteibint ston Leyko Oiko. Aytoi poy qa kakometaxeiristoyn toys amerikanoys aixmalwtoys qa qewrhqoyn egklhmaties polemoy, prosqese o Mpoys Anaferomenos ston Santam Xoysein eipe oti xanei ton elegxo ths xwras\n23/3/2003 8:21:00 mm\nEna apo ta diashmotera kai arxaiotera irakina panepisthmia xtyphqhke apo toys bombardismoys poy pragmatopoihsan oi amerikanikes dynameis thn Kyriakh. To panepisthmio Mustansiriya, einai ena apo ta paliotera arabika ekpaideytika idrymata toy arabikoy kosmoy, afoy idryqhke ton 13o aiwna m.X. Symfwna me aytoptes martyres oi bombardismoi eixan san apotelesma ton traymatistoyn treis perastikoi, enw apo tis ekrhjeis dhmioyrghqhke krathras 10 metrwn sthn eisodo toy ktirioy. Katoikoi poy diamenoyn konta sto panepisthmio ejefrasan thn aporia gia ton logo poy odhghse toys eisboleis na qesoyn ws stoxo to arxaio ayto ekpaideytiko idryma. "Giati stoxeysan to panepisthmio; Den exei kamia sxesh me stratiwtiko stoxo" htan h eylogh aporia toy Shafig Abbas, enos Irakinoy poy zei sthn perioxh.\nH monadikh omada sthn fetinh A1, poy exei kataferei na kerdisei kai toys treis megaloys toy kentroy, einai apo shmera to Peristeri. H omada toy Argyrh Pedoylakh, synexise tis entypwsiakes emfaniseis ths kai epikrathse 92-78 toy Olympiakoy sto kleisto "Andreas Papandreoy", se agwna me ton opoio oloklhrwqhke h 20h hmera. Ta dekalepta: 17-14, 43-32, 62-42, 92-78. Otan mia omada katafernei na krathsei ton Olympiako stoys 32 pontoys sto hmixrono, enw "epitrepei" mono 10 sto krisimo trito dekalepto, ajizei kai me to parapanw th nikh. To idio isxyei, ki otan katafernei na krathsei to probadisma apo to jekinhma toy agwna kai malista me xarakthristikh anesh, xwris na dwsei to dikaiwma stoys "eryqroleykoys" na elpizoyn.\nMe ton Manwlh Papamakario na einai "kaytos" oi Peristeriwtes prohghqhkan 43-32 sto hmixrono, omws ekei poy kriqhke o agwnas htan sthn trith periodo, me epi meroys skor 19-10 yper twn ghpedoyxwn. Oi Dorkofikhs, Pelekanos bohqoysan sto skorarisma, enw katw apo ta kalaqia o Antre Xatson "kaqarize" ta rimpaoynt. Apo thn allh pleyra, oi Markobits, Tomits, Nte Migkel, Xarishs, den mporesan na bohqhsoyn, etsi emeinan mono oi dyo Amerikanoi, Ebans, Tzonson, na prospaqoyn na diorqwsoyn ta... adiorqwta.\nParoti to Peristeri ekane o,ti mporoyse gia na... xasei sthn teleytaia periodo (70-61 sto 36', 73-67 sto 37:30 kai 80-76 sto 39'), telika eftase sth nikh (92-78) kai plasaristhke, gia prwth fora fetos, sthn oktada ths A1.\nPERISTERI: Koyrtobits 16, Papamakarios 25 (1), Pelekanos 16 (2), Giobanofski 2, Glyniadakhs 2, Xatson 10, Dorkofikhs 21 (3)OLYMPIAKOS: Mpoyntoyrhs 2, Xarishs 6 (2), Ebans 24, Markobits 6 (2), Giannoyzakos 11 (3), Tomits 13 (2), Morales, Tzonson 12, Nte Migkel 4\nSe agwnes gia thn 20h hmera toy prwtaqlhmatos mpasket ths A1 andrwn, shmeiwqhkan ta apotelesmata:\nMaroysi-Olympia L. 86-77\n23/3/2003 9:40:00 mm\nNikh petyxe shmera o Olympiakos, me toys eryqroleykoys na epikratoyn dyskola toy Arh me 1-0 xarh se penalti toy Tzortzebits sto 49' se ena mats poy diejhxqh sto Eqniko Stadio Pyrgoy, logw ths timwrias toy Olympiakoy. H omada toy Olegk Protasof jekinhse dynata ton agwna kai exase megalh eykairia na anoijei to skor sto 8o lepto otan o Giannakopoylos se qesh tet-a-tet epixeirhse na pasarei, anti na plasarei, ton Lampakh kai o termatofylakas toy Arh mplokare thn mpala. Sth synexeia o Arhs isorrophse to paixnidi kai me kalh amyntikh leitoyrgia den epetrepe ston Olympiako na apeilhsei thn estia toy. Sto 39' akyrwqhke swsta gkol toy Oforikoye kaqws o Gkanezos epiqetikos ekane epiqetiko faoyl ston Malloy.\nTo deytero hmixrono jekinhse idanika gia thn omada toy Peiraia. Sto 48' o Benetidhs talaipwrhse thn amyna toy Arh kai sentrare, h mpala brhke to aplwmeno xeri toy Koltsida kai o diaithths Zwgrafos ypedeije penalti. To penalti anelabe na ektelesei o Tzortzebits poy den dyskoleythke na anoijei to skor gia thn omada toy. Apo ekei kai pera o ryqmos epese shmantika afoy kamia apo tis dyo omades den dhmioyrghse kapoia ajiologh eykairia. Ola ayta mexri to 73' otan o Olympiakos eixe thn eykairia na diplasiasei ta termata toy.\nO Tzortzebits me kalh prospaqeia sentrare ston Giannakopoylo alla o teleytaios apo poly eynoikh qesh den katafere na sprwjei thn mpala sta dixtya toy Arh. Enteka lepta argotera o Karempe plasare panw ston Lampakh, enw htan monos toy apenanti ston termatofylaka toy Arh. Etsi mexri to telos den allaje tipota kai to 1-0 htan to teliko apotelesma.\nO diaithths Zwgrafos "kitrinise" toys Kwstoyla, Tzortzebits, Giannakopoylo - Katsiaro, Koltsida enw stis kaqysterhseis toy agwna apoblhqhke o Skentzos me deyterh kitrinh.\nOi synqeseis: OLYMPIAKOS: Katergiannakhs, Amanatidhs, Antzas, Kwstoylas, Benetidhs, Karempe, Zetermpergk (85' Poyrsanidhs), Giannakopoylos, Oforikoye, Xoytos (63' Niniadhs), Tzortzebits.\nARHS: Lampakhs, Katsiaros, Koltsidas, Skentzos, Malloys, Selanter, Digkozhs, Epale, Koysas (68' Kyzeridhs), Simits, Kampantahs (58' Mpasir).\nStoys agwnes ths 24hs hmeras gia to podosfairiko prwtaqlhma ths A' Eqnikhs, shmeiwqhkan ta ejhs apotelesmata:\neragr2html v1.00 run on Sunday, 23 March 2003 - 21:54:05 UTC


url: = Grammateas ths KO toy SYRIZA h Af. Qeopeftatoy\n Martyria meloys twn Giatrwn Xwris Synora gia ton bombardismo nosokomeioy sthn Koyntoyz toy Afganistan\n Mera mnhmhs gia thn epeteio twn 16 xronwn apo to tragiko dystyxhma twn Tempwn\n Apolaystikoi oi Iakwbakhs, Gianniwths kai Gemelos kata thn teleytaia hmera\nOmofwna egine apodekth h protash toy prwqypoyrgoy kai proedroy toy SYRIZA, Alejh Tsipra, gia tis qeseis toy Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas kai twn triwn koinoboyleytikwn ekproswpwn toy kommatos, kata th syntomh synedriash ths KO poy oloklhrwqhke pro oligoy.\nEidikotera, nea Grammateas ths K.O. einai h Afrodith Qeopeftatoy. Oi treis koinoboyleytikoi ekproswpoi einai oi Xrhstos Mantas, Swkraths Famellos kai Fwteinh Bakh.\nSymfwna me tis teleytaies dhmoskophseis, tis ekloges anamenetai na kerdisei o aperxomenos kybernhtikos synaspismos, alla aytos endexetai na mhn ejasfalisei thn apolyth pleiochfia, kati to opoio qa mporoyse na odhghsei se mia mikroterh politikh staqerothta epeita apo xronia litothtas kai sterhsewn logw ths krishs xreoys.\nOi ekloges aytes einai oi prwtes poy diejagontai meta thn ejodo ths Portogalias apo to mnhmonio perysi. Wstoso, para tis baqeies perikopes stis dapanes kai tis ychloteres ayjhseis sth forologia poy mporei na qymhqei kaneis, oi dhmoskophseis poy doqhkan sth dhmosiothta thn Paraskeyh deixnoyn oti oi Portogaloi qa synexisoyn me thn kybernhsh poy thn ebgale apo to mnhmonio.\nEikones frikhs, apolyta parastatikes skhnes apo ton orymagdo kai thn katastrofh poy prokalese se asqeneis kai iatriko proswpiko, o apotropaios kai adianohtos mexri xqes bombardismos toy nosokomeioy twn Giatrwn Xwris Synora sthn polh Koyntoyz toy Afganistan, paratiqentai sto APE-MPE mesa apo thn olozwntanh martyria toy noshleyth Lagios Zoltan, o opoios leei: ``Den exw logia na ekfrasw ayto poy synebh. Einai aperigrapto''.\nO noshleyths twn Giatrwn Xwris Synora, Lagios Zoltan Zej briskotan sthn klinikh traymatos sthn Koyntoyz, otan xtyphqhke apo mia seira enaeriwn bombardismwn tis prwtes prwines wres toy Sabbatoy. O idios perigrafei thn empeiria toy.\n``Htan apolytws tromaktiko. Koimomoyn sto dwmatio asfaleias toy nosokomeioy. Peripoy stis dyo ta mesanyxta jypnhsa apo ton hxo mias megalhs ekrhjhs se kontinh apostash. Sthn arxh den hjera ti synebaine. Kata thn teleytaia ebdomada eixame akoysei bombistikes epiqeseis kai ekrhjeis, alla pantote pio makria. Ayth th fora htan teleiws diaforetika. Akoygotan poly konta kai dynata.\n''Sthn arxh yphrje sygxysh ki ena megalo kyma skonhs poy kalyce ta panta. Kaqws prospaqoysame na katalaboyme ti eixe symbei, akoloyqoysan perissoteroi bombardismoi. Meta apo 20-30 lepta, akoysa kapoion na me fwnazei me to onoma moy. Htan enas apo toys noshleytes sta Epeigonta. Mphke parapaiontas me ena terastio trayma sto xeri. Htan gematos aimata kai plhges se olo toy to swma. To myalo moy pagwse kai den mporoysa kan na katalabw ti synebaine. Gia ena deyterolepto stekomoyn orqios. Sokarismenos.\n''Ekliparoyse gia bohqeia. Sto dwmatio asfaleias diaqetoyme mia periorismenh posothta basikwn iatrikwn eidwn prwths anagkhs. Den yphrxe omws morfinh gia na stamathsei ton pono toy. Kaname o,ti mporoysame.\n''Den jerw akribws poso krathse, alla mallon mish wra argotera stamathsan oi bombardismoi. Bghka me ton syntonisth ths omadas gia na doyme ti eixe symbei. Ayto poy antikrisame htan to nosokomeio katestrammeno, na kaigetai. Den jerw kan ti eniwsa, briskomoyn kai pali se katastash sok.\n''Anazhtoysame epizwntes. Ligoi eixan kataferei na mpoyn se ena apo ta dwmatia asfaleias. Enas-enas, anqrwpoi arxisan na emfanizontai traymatismenoi. Metajy toys htan kai orismenoi synadelfoi kai frontistes twn asqenwn mas. Prospaqhsame na mpoyme se ena apo ta pyrpolhmena ktiria gia na doyme ti synebaine. Den mporw kan na to perigracw. Den yparxoyn logia gia to poso apaisio htan ayto poy antikrisame. Sth Monada Entatikhs Qerapeias eji asqeneis kaigontan sta krebatia toys.\n''Arxisame na caxnoyme ta melh toy proswpikoy mas sto xeiroyrgeio. Htan tromaktiko. Enas asqenhs keitontan panw sto xeiroyrgiko trapezi, nekros, sth mesh ths katastrofhs. Den mporesame na broyme to proswpiko mas. Eytyxws argotera diapistwsame oti eixan fygei apo ta xeiroyrgeia kai eixan brei ena pio asfales meros. Akribws dipla, mphkame sto tmhma noshleias. Eytyxws aqikto apo toys bombardismoys. Me mia grhgorh matia diapistwsame oti oloi htan entajei, opws kai osoi eixan katafygei se ena asfales katafygio sth diplanh porta.\n''Sth synexeia kateyqynqhkame kai pali pisw sto grafeio. Htan gemato asqeneis kai traymaties poy oyrliazan. Epikratoyse apolyth trela. Eprepe omws na organwsoyme ena sxedio ektakths anagkhs gia toys traymaties. To prwto poy eprepe na diapistwsoyme htan na doyme poioi giatroi htan zwntanoi kai se qesh na bohqhsoyn. Pragmatopoihsame mia epeigoysa xeiroyrgikh epembash gia enan apo toys giatroys mas. Dystyxws omws den ta katafere kai peqane ekei panw sto grafeio. Kaname to kalytero dynaton, alla den htan arketo. H olh katastash htan ejairetika dyskolh. Blepame toys synadelfoys mas na peqainoyn. O farmakopoios mas, me ton opoio miloysame to prohgoymeno brady gia ta apoqemata toy nosokomeioy, jecyxoyse sto grafeio mas.\n''Oi prwtes stigmes htan xaotikes. Arketo omws apo to proswpiko eixe epizhsei, ki etsi mporoysame na bohqhsoyme oloys ekeinoys me qerapeysima traymata. Wstoso yphrxan para polloi poy den mporoysame na bohqhsoyme. Kata kapoio tropo, ola htan poly jekaqara gia emas. Frontizame ta atoma poy xreiazontan qerapeia, kaqws den hmaste se qesh na laboyme apofaseis. Pws allwste qa mporoysame na paroyme apofaseis se tetoio kaqestws foboy kai xaoys;\n''Orismenoi apo toys synadelfoys briskontan se tetoia katastash sok poy eklaigan diarkws. Prospaqhsa na enqarrynw kapoioys, na toys dwsw kati allo gia na epikentrwqoyn, na toys apospasw gia ligo apo th frikh. Alla merikoi htan toso sygklonismenoi gia na kanoyn otidhpote. To na blepeis enhlikes andres, toys filoys soy, na klaine anejelegkta einai kati poy den mporeis na diaxeiristeis eykola.\n''Ergazomai edw apo ton Maio kai exw biwsei poly baries iatrikes katastaseis. Alla einai entelws diaforetiko otan prokeitai gia toys synadelfoys, toys filoys soy. Einai oi anqrwpoi poy ergazontan sklhra gia mhnes kai kyriolektika astamathta thn teleytaia ebdomada. Den eixan kataferei na pane sto spiti toys gia na doyn tis oikogeneies toys. Ergazontan sto nosokomeio gia na bohqhsoyn alloys anqrwpoys... Kai twra einai nekroi. Aytoi oi anqrwpoi einai filoi, stenoi filoi. Den exw logia na ekfrasw ta synaisqhmata moy. Einai aperigrapto.\nO ypo thn hgesia twn HPA synaspismos sto Afganistan dhlwse pws anamenei oti se merikes meres qa oloklhrwqei mia prokatarktikh polyeqnikh ereyna h opoia qa apofanqei kata poson aeroporikh epidromh poy ejapelyse eplhje ena nosokomeio twn Giatrwn Xwris Synora sthn polh Koyntoyz, skotwnontas toylaxiston 19 anqrwpoys.\nTa apotelesmata ths ereynas ayths qa prepei na ginoyn gnwsta "se merikes meres", anefere se anakoinwsh toy to NATO.\nSysswmh h oikogeneia toy PAOK edwse to ``parwn'' sta Temph, opoy telesthke h epimnhmosynh dehsh gia ta 16 xronia apo to tragiko troxaio dystyxhma poy shmeiwqhke stis 4 Oktwbrioy 1999 kai stoixise thn zwh se eji filaqloys toy PAOK, poy epestrefan apo thn Aqhna meta apo agwna ths omadas toys poy phgan kai parakoloyqhsan.\nParwn htan kai o megalometoxos ths PAE Iban Sabbidhs, gia prwth fora apo thn hmera poy anelabe thn omada ths Qessalonikhs. ``Einai mia tragikh mera. Bebaiws eimaste mia oikogeneia kai prepei na eimaste mazi kai stis dyskoles meres kai stis xares'', tonise emfanws fortismenos synaisqhmatika.\nEnas epoikodomhtikos dialogos gia ta qemata poy apasxoloyn ton aqlhtismo me toys prwtaqlhtes Spyro Gianniwth, Periklh Iakwbakh, alla kai ton omospondiako proponhth kolymbhshs, Niko Gemelo, htan to kerdos ths teleytaias hmeras toy 2oy Qerinoy Sxoleioy Aqlhtikwn Syntaktwn sthn Arxaia Olympia, gia toys symmetexontes. ``Oloi oi dhmosiografoi eiste diefqarmenoi; Giati na eimaste oloi oi aqlhtes ?ntope? parathrhse o katoxos toy Panellhnioy rekor sta 400m. empodia, Periklhs Iakwbakhs kataqetontas tis apoceis toy gia th farmakodiegersh, enw zhthse apo toys aqlhtikoys syntaktes: ``Hqela na hsastan kalyteroi se oloys toys tomeis. Apo to syntaktiko kommati, th xrhsh ths ellhnikhs glwssas dhladh, th xrhsh ths texnikhs orologias kai kyriws na lete kalyteres istories. Hqela ka perissoterh antikeimenikothta, alla kai pio dikaih kritikh.''\nO Olympionikhs kai Pagkosmios Prwtaqlhths Maraqwnias Kolymbhshs, Spyros Gianniwths eipe gia toys logoys poy ton wqhsan na agwnistei kai stoys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy Rio, diagontas to 35o etos ths hlikias toy: ``Einai polles stigmes mazi poy se kanoyn kai synexizeis. To 2008 eixa pei oti qa kolymphsw alla 4 xronia, gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2012. To 2012, sto Londino, eftasa poly konta se ena metallio. Den to katekthsa. Qewrhsa tote oti qa dokimasw allo enan xrono. Eida oti xrono me to xrono mporw na eimai sto ychlotero epipedo. Kai cyxologikh kai swmatikh fortish yparxei, bebaia se tetoio epipedo, alla katafera na ftasw mexri to Rio to 2016''.\nYphrje allh skech -mh aqlhtikh- gia na synexisei; Paradeigmatos xarh ena prim h kapoio allo mponoys; ``Kolympaw epeidh m? aresei, to agapw kai me ekfrazei. Apo th stigmh poy eniwsa to swma moy n? antapokrinetai... synexisa. Oytws h allws, jekinwntas mia poreia apo mikros den fantazomoyn pote oti qa eixa toses diakriseis. Diakrish einai kai h diarkeia mesa sto xrono? den pisteya pws qa katafernw na kolympaw mexri ta 35''.\nExei apofasisei ti qelei na kanei meta to Rio; ``Den exw skeftei ti qa kanw meta to Rio. Exw afosiwqei sto Rio. Qelw na kanw kalh proetoimasia kai ta ypoloipa einai mono skeceis. Qa hqela na metaferw tis gnwseis moy gia ton aqlhtismo, na tis metaferw stoys neoteroys (proponhtika h ws symboylos). Qelw na epistrecw o,ti exw parei tosa xronia''.\nO Omospondiakos texnikos kolymbhshs, Nikos Gemelos (proponhths toso toy Gianniwth, oso kai ths Kellys Araoyzoy rwthqhke gia to poso dyskolo h eykolo einai na diaxeirizesai toys prwtaqlhtes ``Einai lepth h isorropia. Arxizei apo ena sebasmo pros to proswpo soy, otan o aqlhths einai mikros se hlikia poy synexizetai mexri to telos. Apo to pws se koitaei o aqlhths soy otan einai paidi mexri kai ta 35 toy twra sto paradeigma me ton Spyro (s.s. Gianniwth). Einai mia poreia poy ftanei mexri kai th stigmh poy exei ginei mia sxesh oikogeneiakh kai ftanei na einai o koymparos soy h to... 5o paidi soy. Ayth einai h sxesh poy dhmioyrgei o proponhths me enan aqlhth''.\nWs pros toys logoys poy wqoyn enan aqlhth na mh synexisei thn enasxolhsh apo kapoio allo posto ston aqlhtismo, otan teleiwsei h kariera toy ws aqlhths o Nikos Gemelos tonise: ``Einai qema epilogwn. Pws blepei to spor poy kanei; Mono mesa sto nero h sthn palaistra; Gia kapoioys einai dyskolo na to doyn ap? ejw. Pisteyw pws enas aqlhths mporei na dwsei para polla (ws proponhths h ws paragontas). Den prepei na xanetai apo to xwro. O kalos aqlhths exei para polla na dwsei? einai mia synexeia''.\nSton antipoda, o katoxos toy Panellhnioy rekor twn 400m. empodia, Periklhs Iakwbakhs, meta apo arketes diakriseis apofasise na balei teleia sthn aqlhtikh kariera toy fetos. Ti ton odhghse se ayth thn apofash; ``Se ayto to opoio ekana kai poy einai poly antagwnistiko, o paragwn hlikia paizei shmantiko rolo. Soy periorizei to xrono zwhs. Aplws kapoia stigmh den paei allo. Polloi aqlhtes to exoyn niwsei, ?kleinoyn to biblio?, ena yperoxo... biblio, to afhnoyn sthn akrh kai koitoyn na kanoyn kati allo sth zwh toys''.\nEixe sxediasei to epomeno bhma meta ton aqlhtismo; ``Ayto poy egine sthn poreia ths ejodoy einai kat? arxhn na teleiwsw to panepisthmio (Oikonomiko Panepisthmio, marketingk). Thn eixa afhsei th sxolh kai to 2013 meta apo traymatismo sthn pelmatiaia aponeyrwsh apofasisa na ginw pio paragwgikos. Janajekinhsa to panepisthmio, ekana frontisthria (logistikh, maqhmatika) kai diabaza apo tis 22:00 mexri th 1:00 kaqe nyxta). Teleiwsa th sxolh. Twra eimai melos ths epitrophs aqlhtwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Omospondias stiboy kai allhs mias epitrophs. Prokeitai gia dyo organa poy bohqoyn th beltiwsh ths eikonas toy eyrwpaikoy stiboy. Exw eyreia eikona gia ton eyrwpaiko stibo. Exoyn ayjhmenh shmasia kai barythta oi apofaseis poy lambanontai. Exontas arxisei na exw mia epafh, me th diaxeirish, thn oikonomikh katastash, pws doyleyei h dioikhsh, siga siga blepw ton eayto moy ws dioikhtiko stelexos. Qelw na proxwrhsw se metaptyxiako sth dioikhsh aqlhtikwn organismwn metaptyxiako. Proponoymai gia to mellon, wste h enasxolhsh moy me ton aqlhtismo na synexistei apo allo posto''.\nO Iakwbakhs sxoliase ws pros th stigmh poy enas aqlhths bazei telos sthn kariera toy: ``Yparxoyn aqlhtes poy den mporoyn n? apodextoyn oti teleiwse. Parathreitai se polles periptwseis anaptyjh kataqlichs. Gia kapoios einai enas... prowros qanatos ths zwhs toys. To biwnoyn entelws diaforetika, to biwnoyn me pikra, deixnoyn arnhtikh diaqesh ws pros to na to xwnecoyn kai apotrabioyntai apo to xwro. Alloi aqlhtes nomizoyn oti qa eprepe kateyqeian na ginoyn to idio epityxhmenoi amesa, na analaboyn mia antistoixa ychlh qesh kapoy alloy. Prin o kriths htan to xronometro, ola htan jekaqara. Kai einai entelws metrhsimh h ajiologhsh soy otan eisai aqlhths. Einai diaforetiko to pneyma meta, omws kai polloi nomizoyn pws den mporoyn na ta kataferoyn stis nees synqhkes. Jekinoyn apo laqos afethria h odeyoyn pros laqos kateyqynsh. To na diaxeiristei kaneis ta dedomena ayths ths gnwshs poy elabe ws aqlhths kai na ta perasei pros ta ejw einai kati teleiws diaforetiko apo ton prwtaqlhtismo''.\nO Iakwbakhs estiase sto pws antimetwpise o idios to telos ths aqlhtikhs karieras toy: ``Proswpika biwsa thn apoxwrhsh perysi, otan den phga sth Zyrixh logw traymatismoy ki enw eixa apofasisei na balw telos amesws meta. Arxisa na trexw xalara se kaqhmerinh bash ki otan emaqa pws to Eyrwpaiko Kypello Eqnikwn Omadwn qa diejaxqei sthn Krhth, eipa... mhpws na to deis jana; Na dw ti qa ginei me thn poreia moy? jekinhsan oi prwtes synanthseis me thn epitroph kai arxisa na eimai melos ths oikogeneias toy stiboy apo mesa. Ola ayta me ekanan na anaqewrw pragmata. To pio shmantiko ap? ola einai h apodoxh oti teleiwse. Oso pio grhgora to apodexteis, toso pio grhgora qa mpeis sto epomeno kefalaio''.\nTi allazei ragdaia ston aqlhtismo ws pros sth diaxeirish ths eikonas; O Iakwbakhs apanthse: ``Sto stibo yparxei tromeros problhmatismos. Yparxei tash gia ton tropo poy fainetai to proion pros ta ejw. Oi ereynes deixnoyn pws oi neoi qeates poy erxontai den kaqontai me thn idia qermh, gnwsh kai ypomonh gia na parakoloyqhsoyn to proion. Otan o megalyteros xorhgos soy einai h thleorash kai soy leei den mporw na deixnw 5 wres agwnes stiboy, otan soy leei den eisai elkystikos, tote prepei na kaneis allages. Ektos toy oti prepei na mikrynei to programma, prepei oi nees texnologies na mpoyn kai sthn thleorash. Proswpika gia na dw enan agwna stiboy xreiazomai eikona, na dialegw ti qelw na blepw, qa hqela na exw kai ta ?live results?. Den mporeis na exeis kalh antilhch toy ti symbainei mono apo thn thleorash. Qa prepei kai aytos poy metadidei na einai ?tsakali?, na exei alloys dyo dhmosiografoys poy na parakoloyqoyn ta apotelesmata kai na enhmerwnoyn ton sxoliasth. Paradeigmatos xarh qa moy arese na ginetai sth metadosh agwnwn stiboy, opws symbainei sth Formoyla Ena: Na bgainei mpara sthn oqonh kai na soy dinei ti ginetai se ayto poy den blepeis. Briskomaste sthn epoxh ths taxythtas. Sthn thleorash, o thleqeaths an exei dyo lepta keno allazei kanali''.\nOpws tonise o Iakwbakhs logw ths diaforas wras me thn Eyrwph ``sto Rio qa ginoyn 13 telikoi stiboy to prwi (triployn, diskos, 400 empodia andrwn anamesa se alloys), dhladh agwnismata oi telikoi twn opoiwn diejagontai paradosiaka to brady''. Sto kolympi, o Gianniwths qa prepei na ``pesei'' stis 22:00 me 23:00 to brady. ``Einai poly dyskolh h prosarmogh twn aqlhtwn stis allages ths wras. Synhqws sta perissotera aqlhmata oi proponhseis diejagonta 17:00-19:00. Prokyptoyn symptwmata jet-lang gia toys aqlhtes, alla kai o kosmos den mporei na dei toys agwnes polles fores logw ths wras,'' tonise o Nikos Gemelos. O Iakwbakhs parenebh gia na qymisei pws ``Exw paradeigmata aqlhtwn poy exoyn kanei rekor se alles wres. An exei kayswna stis 12:00 kai me balei o proponhths moy na kanw proponhsh den qa ftasw kan stoys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Egw, loipon qa ekana proponhsh me bash thn kaqhmerinothta moy ki oxi me tis wres toy agwna. Einai fores poy prepei na ginoyn prosarmoges sto xrono proponhshs logw pollwn synqhkwn''.\nH xamhlh proseleysh twn filaqlwn se aqlhmata, opws o stibos kai h kolymbhsh htan to epomeno qema syzhthshs, me ton Iakwbakh na shmeiwnei: ``To diko mas to aqlhma adikeitai giati to Panellhnio Prwtaqlhma ginetai sto OAKA (xwrhtikothtas 65 xiliadwn qeatwn). Kai treis xiliades kosmos na erqei fainetai adeio''.\nEnocei toy Pagkosmioy sto Oregkon, o Periklhs Iakwbakhs dhlwse diaqesimos pros thn kratikh thleorash na sxoliazei toy agwnes: ``Egw eyxaristws prosferomai na eimai sto stoyntio sto Pagkosmio toy Oregkon. Kai meta na doyme an ta phgame kala; An prosferame kati kainoyrio. O no 1 xrhmatodoths gia ton stibo einai h thleorash. H prosbash poy exei o kosmos sto proion soy einai mesw ths thleorashs. Qa exei 40 xiliades qeates. H thleorash exei barynoysa qesh''.\nGia thn probolh twn aqlhtwn kai twn aqlhmatwn, o 8os stoys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy Pekinoy, Periklhs Iakwbakhs, ejhghse: ``Ayto einai kati poy apasxolei kyriws tis Omospondies. Exw yparjei aqlhths kai ths katw kai ths panw baqmidas. O rolos twn MME se sxesh me ton aqlhtismo den einai mono na lene ta apotelesmata. Prepei na peite kales istories. Prepei na breite ton X hrwa Gianniwth. Prepei na yparxei mia istoria na peis. Einai qema omospondiwn. Ta MME kaloyntai na bohqhsoyn ton aqlhth. An kai sta metrhsima agwnismata (oxi ayta me pontoys), den yparxei periptwsh an eisai ikanos na se stamathsei opoiosdhpote. O,ti deijei to xronometro''.\nO Spyros Gianniwths tonise epi toy idioy qematos: ``H kolymbhsh einai ena erasitexniko aqlhma. Oso o aqlhths diakrinetai, h anagnwrish erxetai. H epityxia soy erxetai apo ena xronometro. An kaneis ayto poy qes na kaneis qa to kaneis gia sena''.\nO Iakwbakhs aphyqyne erwthsh ston Gianniwth en synexeia: ``Spyro, h zwh soy den einai o aqlhtismos; 30 xronia den exeis programma, gyrw apo thn proponhsh soy; Gia mena aytos einai epaggelmatismos. Exei programmatisei th zwh soy basei ths proponhshs soy''. Ki o Gianniwths apanthse: ``Eimaste epaggelmaties aqlhtes se erasitexniko aqlhma''.\nO Nikos Gemelos epenebh gia na ypenqymisei: ``Sta dika mas aqlhmata ?paizoyme? dyo fores to xrono! Den paizoyme Tetarth kai Sabbato. Den to exoyme to aqlhma mas synexeia mesa sto spiti toy filaqloy. Protash moy einai na gracoyn biblio oi aqlhtes opws oi Iakwbakhs h Gianniwths''.\nTi skeftetai o Spyros Gianniwths oso diarkei o agwnas twn 10 xiliometrwn anoixths qalasshs; ``Mono thn koyrsa. Xeria xeria skeftomai pws qa pane ta epomena metra, thn taktikh moy, an qa paw dejia h aristera. Sta prwta 5 xiliometra exeis ena agxos egrhgorshs. Menw ligo pio pisw ws pros thn prospaqeia poy kataballw kai perimenw na anebw meta ta 5 xiliometra. Na mh sprwjw ton eayto moy prin ta 2 teleytaia xiliometra. To apasxolw to myalo moy kai sto teleytaio xiliari poy mpainei o ponos, tote prepei na krathseis to myalo sto stoxo. Ta teleytaia 500 metra... o ponos sta xeria einai toso entonos poy to myalo soy leei asto. Ki esy toy les oti exeis akomh... enw sthn pragmatikothta den exeis... apo thn proponhsh to qema einai na kaneis pio dynato to myalo soy''.\nAgxos den exei mono o aqlhths, alla kai o proponhths, opws fainetai apo thn apanthsh toy Nikoy Gemeloy: ``Einai poly megalo to agxos. Apo thn arxh mexri na termatisei o aqlhths. H koyrsa mporei na einai teleiws diaforetikh apo ayth poy eixes fantastei kai ?zwgrafisei?. Fobasai thn idia wra mhn ton xtyphsei kapoios allos aqlhths, giati sto agwnisma ayto brisketai o enas me ton allon. Exei poly agxos akomh kai gia mena poy ws anqrwpos den agxwnomai. Ta teleytaia metra ths koyrsas ginomai... opados. Kai meta prepei na diaxeiristeis eite thn apogohteysh toy aqlhth, opws sto Londino, eite toy qriamboy opws sth Sagkah''.\nAgwnisma me diaforetikh fysh ta 400m. empodia, me ton Iakwbakh na kataqetei: ``Sta 47'' den prolabaineis na skefteis. Prospaqeis na ekteleseis teleia o,ti eixes kanei sthn proponhsh. Exeis to noy soy kyriws sto empodio. Ola ginontai aytomatopoihmena. Oso pio kala eisai... toso kalytera qa apodoseis''.\nTo flegon qema ths farmakodiegershs ston aqlhtismo sxoliasthke arxika apo ton Periklh Iakwbakh: ``Ta pragmata einai apla kai synqeta taytoxrona. O stibos apofasise na kanei kati dynato gia na stamathsei th mastiga twn apagoreymenwn oysiwn. Yphrxe diaxyth h antilhch oti oloi einai ?ntope?. Opote h Pagkosmia omospondia eipe ?prepei na to xtyphsw?. H IAAF htan h prwth poy piese na ginei elegxos ektos agwnwn. To megalytero laqos htan oti apodexthkame pws eimaste ?ntope?. ?Ntope? einai aytos poy apodedeigmena exei kanei xrhsh apagoreymenwn oysiwn. Den odhgei poyqena o oloklhrwtismos aytoy toy eidoys. Einai oloi oi dhmosiografoi diefqarmenoi; Giati na einai oloi oi aqlhtes ?ntope?; Gia mena, h IAAF prepei na dhmosiopoiei me onomata kai noymera toys elegxoys poy bghkan arnhtikoi. Ekana ayto to mhna 50 elegxoys se aytoys toys aqlhtes kai bghkan ?kaqaroi?. Sto stibo ginontai 2000 elegxoi, se alla aqlhmata mono 200 elegxoi. Den ta pairnoyn oloi oi aqlhtes. Anarwtietai kaneis... den exei kinhtro kapoios allos aqlhths se alla spor poy paizontai ekatommyria; Den exei kinhtro aytos kai exei kinhtro na parei oysies to paidaki apo ta Lexaina gia na kerdisei to Panellhnio Prwtaqlhma; Mas exei kanei poly kako to qema ntopingk sto stibo. Eixa bareqei na me antimetwpizoyn ws en dynamei ntoparismeno. Exw enan fakelo me 300 elegxoys poy exw perasei sthn kariera moy kai ayth einai h apodeijh''.\nO Spyros Gianniwths kateqese th dikh toy apoch: ``Den akoygetai oti 15 xiliades aqlhtes proodeyoyn kai den kanoyn xrhsh. Akoygetai mono to kako. Egw poreyomai estiazontas sto pws qa beltiwqw kai panta skeftomai pws dikaia me kerdise o antipalos h dikaia ton kerdisa. Den qa pw pote oti aytos exei kanei xrhsh apagoreymenwn oysiwn. Etsi exw maqei apo mikros. H diarkeia toswn xronwn apodeiknyei an to kanw swsta''.\nO proponhths toy Gianniwth, Nikos Gemelos topoqethqhke: ``H diarkeia apodeiknyei thn kaqarothta toy aqlhth. Exei atrofhsei o ESKAN kai den kanei pote elegxoys. Estiazontas ston proponhth qa pw pws h farmakodiegersh sxetizetai kai me thn aneparkeia enos proponhth na doylecei me enan aqlhth. Jereis giati xaneis apo ton tade; Giati einai ntoparismenos. Na toy pw oti prepei na mpei sto trypaki ths farmakodiegershs gia na nikhsei; Gia mena, to ntopingk einai opws ta narkwtika''. Ligo argotera, o Nikos Gemelos dieykrinise pws ``eipa oti to ntopingk einai opws ta narkwtika ws pros ton eqismo apo tis oysies. Den milhsa gia to poiniko meros''.\nSthn erwthsh pws antimetwpizete toys aqlhtes poy timwroyntai gia xrhsh apagoreymenwn oysiwn kai epanerxontai o Periklhs Iakwbakhs apanthse: ``Dystyxws eixa filoys poy breqhkan qetikoi. Prin, h timwria proeblepe apagoreysh 2 etwn. H logikh ths timwrias einai h logikh ths symmorfwshs. Twra, h timwria problepei apokleismo 4 xronia. Oysiastika ta 4 xronia adraneias soy stamatoyn ton aqlhtismo. Kapoies xwres qeloyn na entajoyn ston poiniko kwdika th xrhsh apagoreymenwn oysiwn ston aqlhtismo kai oi xrhstes na antimetwpizoyn kai poinikh timwria. Sthn Italia ypagetai hdh sth nomoqesia gia thn katapolemhsh twn narkwtikwn. Sth Germania qeloyn na kanei fylakh o aqlhths poy brisketai qetikos. Apo ton WADA eipan oti h timwria poy exoyme balei einai arketh. Exw stenoxwrhqei exw neyriasei poly me ta asxhma nea sxetika me aqlhtes poy exoyn kanei xrhsh, alla qewrw pws h timwria einai pros symmorfwsh. Gia emena synexisan, loipon na einai oso filoi htan kai prin. Otan prokeitai gia antipaloys? les giati phges na me kerdiseis etsi; Einai epishs diaforetiko na pianetai sthn proetoimasia kai allo ston agwna. Einai diaforetiko na exei kanei xrhsh ceydefedrinh h kafeinh apo ta na exei kanei xrhsh steroeidwn''.\nO Gianniwths symfwnhse: ``Den prepei na ton teleiwsoyme ton aqlhth. Symmorfwnetai, maqainei apo ta laqh. An to janakanei einai allh kathgoria kai qelei isobio apokleismo. Se proswpiko epipedo den allazei kati, oi filoi einai filoi. Egw eimai anqrwpos poy sygxwrw''.\nTi qa qymoyntai apo thn kariera toys; O Spyros Gianniwths apanthse: ``Den kratw diakrish, alla to aisqhma na qelw na beltiwqw. Ayto qa me krata meta ton aqlhtismo, etsi qelw na poreyomai sth zwh moy. Einai 20 xronia prospaqeias, sympyknwmenh se mia stigmh''. O Iakwbakhs eipe: ``Ayto poy krataw einai to poihma ?An? toy Kiplingk. Exw maqei na antimetwpizw to qriambo kai thn katastrofh me ton idio akribws tropo. Einai to megalytero kerdos poy mporei na exei enas aqlhths''.\nTi qa diorqwne o Gianniwths; ``Na mhn hmoyn toso parormhtikos kapoies fores stoys agwnes. Den hmoyn toso wrimos oso twra. Sto Pekino einai h mia tetoia stigmh. Apo tote prospaqw na mh blepw ta pragmata yperoptika''. O Iakwbakhs ejhghse: ``Ston teliko toy Elsinki to 2012 sto 10o empodio exasa to ryqmo moy, th sygkentrwsh moy, parathsa thn koyrsa meta to 10o empodio. Den hmoyn 20 etwn. Htan anepitrepto''.\nSto telos, o Iakwbakhs kateqese th gnwmh toy gia toys aqlhtikoys syntaktes: ``Hqela na hsastan kalyteroi se oloys toys tomeis. Apo to syntaktiko kommati, th xrhsh ths ellhnikhs glwssas dhladh, th xrhsh ths texnikhs orologias kai na lete kalyteres istories. Hqela ka perissoterh antikeimenikothta, alla kai pio dikaih kritikh.''\nO Nikos Gemelos tonise sxetika: ``Oloi emeis yparxoyme epeidh yparxoyn aqlhtes. Oyte ws proponhtes, oyte ws aqlhtikografoi. To mono qa hqela na pw se esas einai pws prepei na agkaliasoyme toys aqlhtes''.\nSto telos, o proedros toy PSAT, Swthrhs Triantafylloy khryje th lhjh toy 2oy Qerinoy Sxoleioy Aqlhtikwn Syntaktwn kai ananewse to ranteboy sthn Arxaia Olympia gia ton epomeno xrono.\nana2html v2.01 run on Sunday, 4 October 2015 - 16:32:45 UTC


url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-09\nAqhna, 9 Ioynioy 2006\nSTAQOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na mas peite, an qewreite ypokinoymenes tis kinhtopoihseis poy ginontai sto xwro ths Paideias kai deyteron, pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn epiqesh poy dexqhke xqes apo astynomiko o synadelfos, o dhmosiografos toy radiofwnoy toy ANT1 Qeodoshs Panoy.\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh me aisqhma eyqynhs, xwris aifnidiasmoys, me dialogo, me pneyma synennohshs, alla kai me apofasistikothta, proxwrei mazi me toys polites, sto dromo poy prwtoi ekeinoi anoijan. Sto dromo twn allagwn kai twn metarryqmisewn. Sto deytero de qema poy qijate, ekfrazw bebaiws, efoson ta peristatika einai etsi opws moy ta perigrafete, th lyph moy.\nSIDERHS: Oi anqoi kai ta asteria toy k. Polydwra -o idios toys exei apokalesei etsi- gia deyterh fora xtyphsan se kyrio ogko ths poreias, anejarthta apo th drash koykoyloforwn. Einai kentrikh epilogh ths kybernhshs kai pws mporeite na to arnhqeite; An moy epitrepete@\nANTWNAROS: Anamenw thn erwthsh sas. Tis parathrhseis sas mporeite na tis kanete ekei opoy ergazeste.\nSIDERHS: Apla, hqela na pw oti otan ginetai kai deyterh fora kati, den einai tyxaio. Apotelei epilogh kai entolh.\nANTWNAROS: H astynomia einai epifortismenh me mia dyskolh apostolh: Na diathrei thn koinwnikh eirhnh, na ejasfalizei thn tajh kai thn eyryqmh leitoyrgia toy periballontos sto opoio oloi zoyme kai na prostateyei thn perioysia twn politwn. O rolos ths astynomias einai amyntikos. H astynomia den sygkroyetai me kanenan.\nMPOTSARAKOS: Qelw na rwthsw, kyrie Ekproswpe, ean exete na mas peite, posoi apo aytoys poy ekanan epeisodia xqes, poy foroysan koykoyles, poy toys eidame oloi stis kameres, poy kratoysan jyla, molotof, posoi apo aytoys synellhfqhsan kai posoi qa diwxqoyn;\nANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn sxetikes anakoinwseis ths Genikhs Astynomikhs Dieyqynshs Attikhs ep` aytoy.\nBLAXOS: Gia ta xqesina epeisodia, kata thn kybernhsh, poios exei thn eyqynh;\nANTWNAROS: Entypwsh prokalei h sfodrothta twn epiqesewn poy dexqhkan oi akinhtoi andres twn omadwn katastolhs.\nGKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes eidame ena poly megalo syllalhthrio, lene gia perissoteroys apo 10.000 symmetexontes se ayto, apo olo ton ekpaideytiko kosmo. Kai epishs, peripoy 300 sxoles briskontai se katalhch. Me ayta ta dedomena, ejakoloyqei h kybernhsh na milaei gia mikres meiochfies oi opoies antidroyn dixws logo;\nANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa sas exw pei.\nKAKALHS: Dhladh, h kybernhsh kanei dialogo oson afora tis allages sta Panepisthmia me epideijh adiallajias apenanti sta aithmata twn foithtwn kai me anoigma twn kefaliwn kai wmh astynomikh bia;\nANTWNAROS: Eipa kai prohgoymenws oti mporeite bebaiws, kai kaneis den sas amfisbhtei ayto to dikaiwma, na kanete toys dikoys sas sxoliasmoys, tis dikes sas kriseis ekei opoy ergazeste. Ekeino poy eipa xqes, kai isxyei kai shmera, einai oti h shmerinh kybernhsh exei kanei gia ta qemata ths Paideias ena dialogo me megalo eyros, me megalh diarkeia kai me th megalyterh symmetoxh apo opoiondhpote allo dialogo poy exei ginei ews shmera gi` ayta ta qemata. Exei ginei eyreia syzhthsh kai synepws den mporw na katanohsw, giati opws eipa xqes, oxi megales omades, probainoyn se aytes tis kinhtopoihseis.\nKAKALHS: Pote kai me poioys ekane dialogo, an ejairesei kaneis toys Prytaneis oi opoioi einai ta dioikhtika organa kai th diorismenh epitroph twn sofwn, me poioys alloys ekane dialogo kai pote h kybernhsh;\nANTWNAROS: Qa sas parakalesw na symboyleyteite toys synadelfoys sas oi opoioi kalyptoyn ta qemata Paideias kai oi opoioi asfalws exoyn parakoloyqhsei kalytera apo sas thn ejelijh toy dialogoy.\nKAKALHS: Eseis den jerete;\nANTWNAROS: Fysika kai jerw. Alla den prokeitai na anatrejw egw gia logariasmo sas sta dhmosiografika arxeia. Sas parakalw, loipon, na erqete se epafh me toys synadelfoys sas, prokeimenoy na sas enhmerwsoyn, efoson den exete eikona.\nKYRITSHS: Qelete na moy peite, afoy egine olos aytos o eyrys dialogos, an breqhke kapoios na symfwnhsei me thn kybernhsh, dioti diafwnoyn oi pantes; Giati ``en genei'' den moy leei kati. Mporei kai egw na sas pw oti@\nANTWNAROS: Sth Dhmokratia einai oi pleiochfies ekeines poy eklegoyn tis kybernhseis kai tis ejoysiodotoyn na nomoqethsoyn.\nKYRITSHS: Tote giati mas lete gia dialogo;\nANTWNAROS: Exei ginei dialogos, kai malista se megalh ektash.\nSIDERHS: Anejarthta ti qesh exei kaneis epi toy nomosxedioy, to problhma einai oti dhmioyrgeitai ena koinwniko metwpo poy teinei na ekragei kai na orioqethqei, na exoyme stratopeda diaxronika. Polloi xanoyn tis ejetaseis. Giati h kybernhsh se deigma kalhs qelhshs kai me sofia, den kanei ena bhma pisw, na pei ``den to kataqetw to kalokairi, to janasyzhtame, estw kai gia ligo'';\nANTWNAROS: Oso kai na prospaqhsete -kai apo xqes to kanete epaneilhmmenws- qa meinw se ayto poy sas eipa, oson afora thn proetoimasia toy nomosxedioy. Den qa balw xronika periqwria. Ejedwse ejalloy molis pro oligoy anakoinwsh h Ypoyrgos k. Giannakoy, sthn opoia kai sas parapempw.\nSTAQOPOYLOS: Den moy apanthsate sto prwto erwthma, ean qewreite ypokinoymenes tis kinhtopoihseis sto xwro ths Paideias. H k. Giannakoy exei afhsei na ennohqei oti einai ypokinoymenes.\nANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gia to sygkekrimeno qema, to exw pei.\nBLAXOS: O k. Papandreoy prin apo ligo kalese thn kybernhsh na mhn kataqesei to nomo plaisio mesa sto kalokairi kai zhthse na yparjei eqnikh strathgikh sto xwro ths Paideias. Ti apantate;\nANTWNAROS: Exei apanthsei hdh se antistoixes topoqethseis toy PASOK, apo xqes, o k. Roysopoylos.\nBLAXOS: Prin apo ligo egine h dhlwsh toy k. Papandreoy.\nANTWNAROS: Einai paremferes to periexomeno twn dhlwsewn.\nBLAXOS: Me sygxwreite, bgazei h kybernhsh apanthsh prin ginei h dhlwsh apo ton k. Papandreoy;\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti apanthse sth dhlwsh toy k. Aqanasakh. To periexomeno twn dyo dhlwsewn einai paremferes.\nBLAXOS: Twra to logo ton exei o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Den qa prepei na apanthsete sto neo aithma toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, poy exei thn eyqynh na nomoqetei, exei kanei dialogo se baqos. Opws sas eipa kai xqes, meta apo ayto to dialogo kai otan oloklhrwqei h dhmosia diaboyleysh, h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei sthn kataqesh toy nomosxedioy.\nBLAXOS: Na rwthsw kati akomh: Mhpws qelete na mas sxoliasete thn ikanothta twn astynomikwn arxwn sto qema ths Beroias kai ths ejafanishs toy Alej; Sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti meta apo tosoys mhnes h astynomia shmera deixnei na kineitai kai afoy prohgoymenws yphrjan dhmosieymata kai thleoptikes ekpompes;\nANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio gia kamia ptyxh mias astynomikhs kai mias dikastikhs ereynas se ejelijh. Exoyme topoqethqei genika gia to sygkekrimeno qema.\nBLAXOS: Den apasxolei thn kybernhsh omws h anikanothta twn astynomikwn organwn;\nKAKALHS: H plhrhs kalych poy prosferei h kybernhsh sthn astynomikh bia poy epideixthke xqes apenanti stoys foithtes, einai prokrima kai mhnyma sthn koinwnia synolikotera gia opoiondhpote antidrasei stis epiloges ths kybernhshs;\nANTWNAROS: H koinwnia den antidra stis epiloges ths kybernhshs. H koinwnia epikrotei kai xairetizei tis epiloges kai tis metarryqmiseis poy kanei h shmerinh kybernhsh. Kai ayto fainetai synexws.\nSIDERHS: Egw qa epimeinw sto qema ths eylygisias ths kybernhshs. Eseis den kathgoroysate thn tote kybernhsh toy PASOK oti nomoqetei monh ths kai den afoygkrazetai kanenan epeidh kateqete ta nomosxedia katakalokairo; Tis pio asxhmes stigmes toy PASOK exete yioqethsei.\nANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw. Aytes oi stigmes einai anyperblhtes! Qa hqela na epanalabw gia mia akomh fora oti sas eipa pro oligoy. H kybernhsh kanei dialogo se ola ta epipeda kai o dialogos aytos fernei apotelesmata. Kai blepete oti meta thn chfish twn eisagomenwn nomosxediwn ta opoia sth synexeia ginontai nomoi, h koinwnia ta apodexetai plhrws. Apodexetai plhrws aytes tis ryqmiseis.\nSIDERHS: Me spasmena kefalia bebaia.\nANTWNAROS: Aytes einai dikes sas ektimhseis. Mpeite ston kopo na diabaste kai tis epishmes anakoinwseis.\nKYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, asxeta apo tis epishmes anakoinwseis, yparxoyn orismena pragmata ta opoia edeije h thleorash. Edeije anqrwpoys na einai katw kai na toys klwtsane sto kefali. Edeije tetoia peristatika. Gi` ayta den aisqanesqe thn anagkh na kanete kapoio sxolio;\nANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka pro oligoy. Kai sas eipa oti ekplhssei pragmatika, h sfodrothta me thn opoia eginan oi epiqeseis apo orismenes omades stoys akinhtoys astynomikoys. Epiqeseis stis opoies xrhsimopoihqhke oxi mono oti ebriskan orismenoi diadhlwtes mprosta toys alla kai oti eixan proetoimasei kai eixan ferei mazi toys.\nKYRITSHS: Egw sas rwthsa gi` allo. Kapoios einai katw kai ton klwtsane sto kefali. Ti kanei; Rixnei kefalies sta gonata;\nPAPAHLIOPOYLOS: Blepoyme oti sxedon se kaqe poreia poy ginetai teleytaia, yparxoyn tetoies omades kai dhmioyrgoyntai tetoia epeisodia. Telika, to erwthma einai, pws qa prostateyqoyn oi perioysies twn politwn kai pws apozhmiwnontai aytoi oi polites.\nANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to oikonomiko qema gia na sas apanthsw. Pantws, eimai bebaios, oti to koinwniko synolo brisketai se synexh egrhgorsh kai oti h megalh pleiochfia twn politwn kaqws kai oi armodioi foreis, prosferoyn thn energo symparastash kai arwgh toys.\nGKOYTZANHS: Dhladh, h kybernhsh, apokleiei to endexomeno kapoioi astynomikoi na exoyn deijei yperballonta zhlo, opws kathggeile h k. Basw Papandreoy kai malista anefere kai th dimoiria sthn opoia parathrhse h idia kapoia pragmata kai twn epikefalhs ayths ths dimoirias;\nANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw panw se ayto to qema, to eipa.\nMPOTSARAKOS: Mas ekplhssei kai mas h sfodrothta twn epiqesewn alla mas ekplhssei kai kati allo. Eidame eikones astynomikwn na xtypoyn diadhlwtes poy den symmeteixan sta epeisodia kai den eidame kamia syllhch aytwn poy symmeteixan sta epeisodia. Mporeite na mas to ejhghsete pws ginetai ayto gia allh mia fora;\nANTWNAROS: Qa sas parapemcw stis anakoinwseis ths astynomias.\nMPOTSARAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai qema ths kybernhshs omws.\nANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw, loipon, stis anakoinwseis ths astynomias, tis opoies profanws den exete diabasei.\nBLAXOS: Synhqws meta apo tetoies sygkentrwseis kai tetoia epeisodia, parathreitai to fainomeno, kapoioi na mpainoyn mesa sto Polytexneio kai na kleinontai. H astynomia oysiastika den pairnei kanena metro gia na apotrecei thn eisodo, antiqetws moy dinei thn entypwsh oti toys odhgei pros ta ekei.\nANTWNAROS: Entypwseis mporei na exete polles. Kaneis den sas afairei ayto to dikaiwma.\nBLAXOS: Esas den sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti mpainoyn me toso megalh eykolia mesa sto Polytexneio kai den yparxoyn metra gia na toys empodisoyn;\nANTWNAROS: Sas aphnthsa oti profanws proballete tis proswpikes sas entypwseis.\nBLAXOS: Ma, einai gegonos oti mphkan. Den einai entypwsh dikh moy.\nANTWNAROS: Kataqetete ena gegonos. Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.\nBLAXOS: Ara giati moy lete oti einai entypwsh. Einai pragmatikothta.\nANTWNAROS: Egw sas eipa oti proballete entypwseis sas. ``Exete'' moy lete ``thn entypwsh''. Meta metatrepete thn ``entypwsh'' se ``gegonos''. Kai sas lew loipon: Kataqetete ena gegonos, den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.\nSIDERHS: Epeidh to Panepisthmiako asylo alles istorikes anagkes to dhmioyrghsan kai to gennhsan, skeftetai h kybernhsh me thn kataxrhsh poy ginetai na yparjei kapoia nomoqetikh epanaproseggish h kapoia syzhthsh me toys armodioys foreis prokeimenoy na parqoyn kapoia metra;\nANTWNAROS: Ej oswn gnwrizw kai ayto to qema einai antikeimeno toy dialogoy, o opoios exei ginei.\nKAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite epi ths oysias giati h kybernhsh afhnei ta dhmosia Panepisthmia na boyliazoyn kai na apajiwnontai xwris na dinei ta kondylia poy apaitoyntai; Mhpws gia na primodotoyntai ta idiwtika poy erxontai;\nANTWNAROS: Ejakoloyqeite kai xrhsimopoieite stoixeia ta opoia den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta. An qymamai kala, kai exw sxedon th bebaiothta oti qymamai kala, sas eixa pei prosfata oti gia thn tritobaqmia ekpaideysh ta kondylia ayjhqhkan panw apo 10%, kai an qymamai kala to akribes pososto, einai 13%. Synepws proballete edw kai xtizete enan isxyrismo me epixeirhmata ta opoia den exoyn bash. Den mporw, loipon, na dextw ayto ton isxyrismo sas. Otan ta epixeirhmata einai saqra, den ta dexomai kai bebaiws den mporw na ta sxoliasw. Sas epishmainw pantws oti stoxos ths kybernhshs einai to kalo dhmosio Panepisthmio, to exei pei epaneilhmmenws h Ypoyrgos k. Giannakoy. Ena Panepisthmio to opoio qa mporei na sygkriqei me ta kalytera Panepisthmia poy yparxoyn dieqnws. Aytos einai o stoxos ths kybernhshs.\nKAKALHS: Profanws ta lefta poy dinete den ta pairnoyn ta Panepisthmia, den ftanoyn sta Panepisthmia. Oi armodioi foreis zhtane thn ayjhsh toys.\nANTWNAROS: Oi armodioi foreis, qa moy epitrecete na sas pw, exoyn anafaireto dikaiwma na zhtoyn o,ti krinoyn. Egw omws, sas paroysiasa sygkekrimena stoixeia ta opoia den exei breqei kaneis, ej oswn gnwrizw mexri twra, na amfisbhthsei.\nPAPADHMHTRIOY: Mporeite na dieykrinisete ti ennoeite otan lete mikres omades, oxi megales omades; Xqes eidame mia apo tis megalyteres poreies poy exei ginei ta teleytaia xronia.\nBLAXOS: Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia tis epiqeseis poy dexetai to teleytaio diasthma o Anastasios Albanias, me aformh kai th xqesinh synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo;\nANTWNAROS: Se ti epiqeseis anafereste;\nBLAXOS: Epiqeseis apo ton Typo. Oysiastika zhtoyn na fygei apo thn Arxiepiskoph Albanias. Olos o albanikos Typos einai enantion toy.\nANTWNAROS: Den mporw na jerw an ayta poy moy metaferete einai ontws etsi. Molonoti gnwrizw oti exete kalh gnwsh toy albanikoy Typoy, kai to lew me plhrh sobarothta. Einai gnwsto omws oti o Arxiepiskopos Albanias kyrios Anastasios einai enas ierarxhs, enas pneymatikos andras me dieqnh anagnwrish, me dieqnes belhnekes, o opoios xairei megalhs ektimhshs, oxi mono sto poimnio toy sthn Albania alla kai se olo ton Xristianiko kosmo.\nKAKALHS: Exei apofasisei h kybernhsh an sthn ayrianh synanthsh ths k. Mpakogiannh me ton Toyrko omologo ths qa qesei qema anaqermanshs twn diereynhtikwn synomiliwn oson afora thn parapomph twn diaforwn sth Xagh;\nANTWNAROS: Profanws den exoyn ginei antilhpta osa exw pei ton teleytaio kairo. Oi diereynhtikes synomilies, oi gyroi twn synomiliwn poy ginontai metajy twn dyo pleyrwn, synexizontai. Eixan pragmatopoihqei, opws gnwrizete, 22 tetoioi gyroi apo tis kybernhseis toy PASOK, oso htan kybernhsh to PASOK, kai exoyn ginei nomizw dwdeka apo ton Martio toy 2004 kai meta. Ayth einai mia synexhs diadikasia. Stoxos ayths ths diadikasias einai h plhrhs ejomalynsh twn sxesewn metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Opws exw pei, kat` epanalhch tis teleytaies hmeres, to qema ths parapomphs ths mias diaforas, ths diaforas poy exei h Ellada me thn Toyrkia gia thn yfalokrhpida sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs, apotelei ena tmhma, ena ergaleio ths synolikhs staqerhs, dedomenhs eqnikhs strathgikhs poy exoyme se o,ti afora th sxesh mas me thn Toyrkia. Mia strathgikh poy thn sthrizoyn ta dyo megala kommata kai oxi mono. Mia strathgikh poy apoblepei sthn eyrwpaikh prosarmogh ths Toyrkias. Synepws den yparxei tipota kainoyrio.\nKAKALHS: Ara, qa to syzhthsoyn to qema ths Xaghs. Ayto mas lete.\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti to qema ths Xaghs den einai ena qema mono toy, aytonomo, jexwristo.\nGKOYTZANHS: Paroti exete pei epaneilhmmenws edw oti yparxei synainesh twn dyo kommatwn, to PASOK epimenei kai yparxoyn shmera dhmosieymata kai zhta na topoqethqei h kybernhsh sthn protash poy ekane o k. Papandreoy kai afhnei na ennohqei oti den exei apanthsei.\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, jerete, exei topoqethqei me krystallinh diaygeia. Ekeino to opoio blepw, qa moy epitrecete na pw, einai mia megalh amhxania apo thn pleyra toy PASOK. Prospaqoyn mesa se diasthma ligwn hmerwn na diorqwsoyn, na ermhneysoyn, dhqen na dieykrinisoyn ti qelei na pei, ti exei pei o k. Papandreoy. As katalhjoyn epiteloys kapoy gia na katalaboyn oi Ellhnes polites ti den ekane o k. Papandreoy ola ayta ta xronia poy htan Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn.\nBLAXOS: An mas peite omws ti apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos ston k. Papandreoy sth synanthsh toys otan toy eqese to qema ths epektashs, qa lyqei to qema.\nANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei oti den metaferw pote dialogoys poy exei o Prwqypoyrgos me synergates toy h me episkeptes sto Megaro Majimoy.\nBLAXOS: Arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs einai. Qesmiko proswpo, den einai episkepths.\nANTWNAROS: Synomilhtes an protimate.\nBLAXOS: Ektos kai an ton qewreite synergath sas. Opote einai allo qema.\nANTWNAROS: Eipa synergates h episkeptes. Opoiosdhpote episkeptetai to Megaro Majimoy einai episkepths, synomilhths.\nSas eyxaristw. Kalo trihmero.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Friday, 9 June 2006 - 13:05:15 UTC