url: =Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-04-12\nAqhna, 12 Aprilioy 2005\nYpo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, k. Kwsta Karamanlh synedriase shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai syzhthse ena polydiastato nomosxedio toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs, to opoio qa kataqesei ayrio sth Boylh o Ypoyrgos k. Anastashs Papalhgoyras. Me to nomosxedio ayto, poy perilambanei 24 epimeroys parembaseis, h kybernhsh apoblepei kyriws sthn epitaxynsh, alla kai sthn poiotikh anabaqmish ths aponomhs dikaiosynhs.\nO Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio, Tetarth 13 Aprilioy, stis 10:00 to prwi, qa synanthqei me ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. G. Alogoskoyfh.\nANTWNOPOYLOS: Xqes eixame mia kataggelia apo to PASOK gia apopeira noqeias stis foithtikes ekloges opoy malista breqhkan kai kapoia triptyxa ta opoia eixan tis sfragides kai toy Prytanh kai ths Grammateias. Kai shmera eixame epishs kai mia katalhch ths Grammateias ths Nomikhs. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.\nANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena apolytws sxolio.\nBLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh ypociazomai oti enhmerwneste gi` ayta ta opoia grafontai kai legontai sta radiofwna kai stis thleoraseis, qa hqela na mas peite an exei ginei ereyna apo thn kybernhsh gia to pws kai apo poy dierreyse tmhma ths ekqeshs toy k. Nimits ston kyriakatiko Typo;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, den exei rolo astynomikoy epiqewrhth, gia na elegxei me poion tropo kanoyn th doyleia toys oi dhmosiografoi.\nBLAXOS: Gia to pws kanoyn th doyleia toys oi ypoyrgoi exei logo h kybernhsh;\nANTWNAROS: Katalhgete biastika, ayqaireta kai me prokatalhch se symperasmata, yponowntas oti h diarroh egine dhqen apo ypoyrgoys. Ayto den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.\nBLAXOS: Poios allos, dhladh, eixe thn epistolh Nimits;\nANTWNAROS: Eiste dhmosiografos, den exete para na kanete ereyna. Den qa sas pw egw poios allos eixe thn epistolh Nimits. Eiste empeiros dhmosiografos, exete polla xronia qhteias sth dhmosiografia.\nBLAXOS: Pantws, ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs den eixan thn epistolh Nimits. Ara, loipon, bgazoyme thn antipoliteysh.\nANTWNAROS: Den aphyqyna kamia momfh pros ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs. Sas eipa oti katalhgete se biastika symperasmata.\nSIDERHS: Par` ola osa lete, epeidh den hxoyn peistika kai epeidh ayto poy yfistaste twra, ayth thn kritikh, einai ejaitias mias diarrohs poy den einai h prwth @kai qelw na elpizw oti qa htan h teleytaia- mhpws ayth h sygxysh poy epiferate kai stis dikes sas stoxeyseis sas ebale myalo ws kybernhsh;\nANTWNAROS: To erwthma sas parakalw.\nSIDERHS: An qa stamathsete tis epilektikes diarroes se epilegmena Mesa Enhmerwshs.\nANTWNAROS: Sto plaisio twn arxwn kai twn ajiwn ths neas diakybernhshs, o Ypoyrgos Epikrateias kai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos k. Roysopoylos, alla ki egw proswpika, antimetwpisame sto parelqon kai antimetwpizoyme ola ta MME anejairetws isotima kai xwris diakriseis.\nSIDERHS: An krinoyme apo ayta poy blepoyme dhmosieymena eniote, den threitai ayto poy lete h ish apostash. Yparxoyn kapoia Mesa Enhmerwshs pio isa apo ta alla.\nANTWNAROS: Isxyei sto akeraio kai xwris kamia parekklish h dhlwsh poy molis ekana.\nKORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ekrine oti den eprepe na mpei se leptomereies @poy den einai fysika leptomereies- twn shmeiwn ths epistolhs Nimits pros toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn. Ekrine oti to idio eprepe na kanei kai me synadelfoys toy ypoyrgoys sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, oi opoioi endexomenws na enhmerwqhkan prin apo toys ypoloipoys gia to Skopiano zhthma kai tis ejelijeis poy qa eixame h den egine kamia apolytws enhmerwsh kai se kanenan, monon ston Prwqypoyrgo;\nANTWNAROS: O k. Molybiaths enhmerwse ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh ws ofeile.\nKORAH: Kai me oles tis leptomereies;\nKORAH: Den moy apanthsate.\nTSIODRAS: Otan lete enhmerwse ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh, ennoeite oti o k. Molybiaths enhmerwse ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, toys ypoyrgoys h o Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwse thn kybernhsh; Kai, deyteron, eipate oti den dierreyse apo ypoyrgoys. Dhladh, den dierreyse apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs h epistolh;\nANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka ep` aytoy. Katalhgete se biastika symperasmata. Den eimai se qesh na sas pw, ayth th stigmh, pws mia efhmerida h ena Meso apekthse ena keimeno h tmhmata enos keimenoy.\nTSIODRAS: Me sygxwreite, den dierreyse apo ypoyrgoys;\nANTWNAROS: Ayto poy sas eipa isxyei opws sas to eipa. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo ep` aytoy.\nGKOYTZANHS: Kat` arxhn, emeis den katalhgoyme se kanena ayqaireto symperasma. Rwtame, h kybernhsh mporei na mas apokleisei oti dierreyse apo ekeinh h epistolh; Ayto einai ena erwthma. Kai ena deytero, otan dhmioyrgeitai meizon politiko qema apo toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs, giati den toys doqhke to sygkekrimeno epimaxo kommati, fysika kai yparxei ena qema politikhs eyqynhs gia to pws efqase ston Typo. Politikh eyqynh den nomizw oti qa apodwsoyme stoys dhmosiografoys poy to eixan.\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa egw kati tetoio; Apedwsa kamia politikh eyqynh stoys dhmosiografoys; Ekeino to opoio sas eipa einai oti to keimeno ayto den prohlqe apo thn kybernhsh.\nBLAXOS: Efoson, loipon, apokleiete na dierreyse apo ypoyrgoys, shmainei oti exete kanei ereyna.\nBLAXOS: Ara, pws to apokleiete; Ayqaireta;\nANTWNAROS: Gnwrizw pws leitoyrgei h shmerinh kybernhsh.\nBLAXOS: Pws apokleiete, k. Ekproswpe;\nANTWNAROS: Den exw ep` aytoy na sas pw tipote allo.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me ta epimaxa zhthmata poy qetei to mnhmonio h h epistolh Nimits, eixe enhmerwsei armodiws o k. Molybiaths ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Karolo Papoylia; Ennow gia ta epimaxa zhthmata.\nANTWNAROS: Den perimenete asfalws apo emena na ypeiselqw sto periexomeno ths enhmerwshs poy kanei o Ypoyrgos twn Ejwterikwn ston anwtato politeiako paragonta.\nKAKALHS: H kybernhsh protiqetai na zhthsei thn apaleich twn arnhtikwn kat` aythn shmeiwn apo thn epistolh Nimits h opws o k. Balhnakhs qewrei oti einai epityxia to shmeio oti kamia xwra h perioxh den mporei na xrhsimopoihsei ton oro Matsentonia;\nANTWNAROS: Profanws den egine akomh antilhpto, par` oti exoyn perasei arketes hmeres, ayto poy exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws: Oti prokeitai gia ena keimeno to opoio den einai symfwnia, den einai prosxedio symfwnias gia to opoio mas zhteitai na poyme ena nai h ena oxi. Prokeitai gia protaseis toy dieqnoys mesolabhth, gia tis opoies kaloyntai oi dyo pleyres poy emplekontai na dieykrinisoyn an tis dexontai ws bash gia diapragmateysh. Eipame kai xqes, se ayth edw thn aiqoysa, oti orismena qemata gia thn Ellada einai mh diapragmateysima. Ayto ta leei ola. Ekeino, omws, poy metra einai na topoqethqei h allh pleyra. Efoson, den topoqeteitai h allh pleyra, den proxwra h diapragmateysh. Den proxwra h peraiterw syzhthsh se dimeres epipedo me thn paroysia, bebaiws, toy dieqnoys diamesolabhth.\nKAKALHS: Topoqethqhke h allh pleyra kai xqes me ton prwqypoyrgo kai sta Hnwmena Eqnh@\nANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, exei epiblhqei apo ton dieqnh mesolabhth apagoreysh dhmosiwn dhlwsewn, ena mplak aoyt, gia to qema. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, hdh, apo thn perasmenh Paraskeyh me tis epifylajeis poy ejefrase, me pollh safhneia, o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, eipe oti qewrei ayto to keimeno, to eggrafo, to mnhmonio @opws qelete peite to- ws bash gia diapragmateysh, me thn epifylajh oti orismena shmeia prepei, eite na dieykrinistoyn, eite na tropopoihqoyn. H allh pleyra fainetai na mhn to apodexetai. Synepws, den diapragmateyetai kaneis me ton eayton toy.\nBLAXOS: Me dedomeno oti dexeste oti den proxwra allo h diapragmateysh, qa hqela na mas peite, poia einai ta epomena stadia, poies einai oi epomenes kinhseis ths kybernhshs. Giati einai profanes oti ta Skopia epidiwkoyn na epanalambanetai ayto poy egine prosfata, paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, dhladh, jenos hgeths na anaferetai sth geitonikh ayth xwra me to onoma ``Makedonia''. Qa hqela na mas peite, apo edw kai pera, ti qa kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh.\nANTWNAROS: Epeidh den exoyme akomh epishmh, dhmosia, desmeytikh topoqethsh ths allhs pleyras kai kyriws epeidh den mas exei enhmerwsei h pleyra twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn -h opoia exei kai thn eyqynh gia tis prospaqeies pros aneyresh ths lyshs sto plaisio twn epafwn ths, me tis dyo pleyres- h ellhnikh kybernhsh den exei logo, ayth th stigmh, na topoqethqei peran twn oswn eipe dia stomatos toy k. Molybiath thn perasmenh Paraskeyh. Ayth einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai panw se ayth th qesh qa poreyqoyme. Oson afora sthn topoqethsh tritwn xwrwn: Oi trites xwres exoyn thn eykairia na diapistwsoyn gia prwth fora -meta apo polla xronia diapragmateyshs poy ginotan en kryptw kai xwris na leei kaneis ti ginotan, xwris kamias morfhs enhmerwsh- jekaqara poios einai ajiopistos synomilhths kai poios einai etoimos na proxwrhsei se oysiastikes diapragmateyseis.\nKORAH: Qa prospaqhsw na ermhneysw mia apanthsh sas. Otan prin apo ligo sas rwthsa ean enhmerwse o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn synadelfoys toy gia tis protaseis Nimits kai gia thn epimaxh diatajh, opoy apokleiontai apo to dikaiwma kai oi dyo pleyres na aytoapokaloyntai ``Makedones'', moy eipate: ``to ekane ws ofeile''. Egw ayto to ermhneyw oti toys ta eipe ola. H erwthsh moy einai: Yphrjan enstaseis sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;\nANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa, o k. Molybiaths enhmerwse to kybernhtiko sxhma ws ofeile. Kai qa prosqesw to ejhs: Prwton, to en logw edafio -to opoio dhmosieyqhke kai einai asafes, diforoymeno kai gia polloys poy katalabainoyn apo dieqnh diplwmatia, antikeimeno diaforwn ermhneiwn- den einai etsi akribws opws to apodidete. Einai, loipon, ena edafio dektiko parermhneiwn. Ekeino, omws, poy exei shmasia kai ejakoloyqei na metra einai oti o k. Nimits perielabe sto eggrafo toy shmeia - ta opoia o idios ekrine oti eprepe na ypobalei- pros diapragmateysh, pros syzhthsh, efoson to eggrafo toy ginotan dekto ws bash gia diapragmateysh, pros tis dyo pleyres. Den shmainei pws otan jekinaei mia diapragmateysh ola ta shmeia poy perilambanontai einai apodekta, eite apo th mia, eite apo thn allh pleyra. Emeis, ej arxhs, diatypwsame tis enstaseis mas, tis epifylajeis mas kai eipame jekaqara oti yparxoyn shmeia, ta opoia prepei, eite na tropopoihqoyn, eite na apaleifqoyn apo to keimeno. Ekeino to opoio ginetai synexeia antikeimeno mias paranohshs, einai oti den exoyme fqasei sto stadio enos oristikoy, sympefwnhmenoy keimenoy, to opoio kaloyntai oi dyo pleyres, na monografhsoyn, na ypogracoyn, na egkrinoyn h na epikyrwsoyn. Anakefalaiwnw: Prokeitai gia ena keimeno, sto opoio o dieqnhs mesolabhths katagrafei orismena stoixeia, ta opoia, kata th dikh toy ektimhsh, einai dynato na dhmioyrghsoyn mia bash gia peraiterw diapragmateysh twn dyo pleyrwn, wste ekeines na fqasoyn se mia sympefwnhmenh lysh.\nKORAH: Mhpws h ellhnikh kybernhsh biasthke, giati olh ayth h diadikasia einai akomh se ena poly prwimo stadio.\nANTWNAROS: Oxi, den qa symfwnhsw mazi sas se ayto. Antiqetws, h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia prwth fora meta apo para polla xronia deixnei oti einai diateqeimenh na proxwrhsei se diapragmateysh. Emeis zhthsame epispeysh twn diadikasiwn sta Hnwmena Eqnh, oi opoies eixan baltwsei gia dyo-tria xronia. Den eixan ginei bhmata mprosta. Kai apotelesma ayths ths syzhthshs einai h en logw prwtoboylia poy anelabe o k. Nimits.\nSOYGLERHS: qa hqela na rwthsw, ean o k. Molybiaths zhthse apo toys politikoys arxhgoys, sthn prosfath synanthsh toys, na toy dwsoyn graptes kapoies protaseis h qeseis poy exoyn. Kai ean afhse anoikto to qema na janasynanthqoyn meta tis ejelijeis poy qa epakoloyqhsoyn;\nANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy kat` arxas, ean toys zhthse tetoies graptes protaseis. Den exw plhroforhqei kai den nomizw oti o k. Molybiaths aphyqyne ena tetoio aithma pros toys politikoys arxhgoys toys opoioys synanthse. Opws jerete, h kybernhsh me prwtognwrh syxnothta -h opoia jeperna otidhpote allo exei ginei sto parelqon- enhmerwnei ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs gia basika qemata poy aforoyn sthn ejwterikh politikh. Allwste, gia prwth fora sthn istoria mas, exoyn ginei ston problepomeno xrono oles anejairetws oi synedriaseis toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy Ejwterikhs Politikhs.\nSEISOBA: Ektos apo ton topoqethsh toy k. Molybiath dhmosia panw se merika stoixeia enos eggrafoy toy k. Nimits, h Aqhna sebomenh ths diadikasia, exei apanthsei dia ths kanonikhs odoy ston k. Nimits;\nANTWNAROS: O k. Molybiaths emfanisthke dhmosia kai ekane dhlwsh on camera me sygkekrimeno periexomeno. Den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti ayth h dhlwsh exei th morfh epishmhs topoqethshs ths ellhnikhs pleyras. Einai syntetagmenh dhlwsh-topoqethsh.\nSEISOBA: Dhladh, den yparxei allh dhlwsh ths Elladas pros ton Nimits, oson afora to qema;\nANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw. O k. Molybiaths thn perasmenh Paraskeyh anakoinwse dhmosia thn epishmh qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.\nKORAH: Alla, o k. Nimits den einai aparaithto na prosfeygei ston ellhniko Typo gia na enhmerwqei.\nANTWNAROS: Eikazw basimws oti h dhlwsh toy k. Molybiath exei epidoqei, dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy, ston k. Nimits.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Mexri pote einai diateqeimenh h ellhnikh kybernhsh na einai sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn me thn allh pleyra; Yparxei enas orizontas; Exei programmatistei na yparjei enas orizontas me ton OHE, ton Nimits kai thn allh pleyra;\nANTWNAROS: Afhste prwta na arxisoyn oi diapragmateyseis.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Den exoyn arxisei akoma;\nANTWNAROS: Ayto akribws ejhghsa leptomerws molis pro oligoy. Oi diapragmateyseis qa arxisoyn apo th stigmh poy oi dyo pleyres apodexqoyn tis protaseis Nimits ws bash gia diapragmateysh. Kati to opoio, mexri stigmhs, jekaqara, desmeytika kai epishma exei kanei h ellhnikh pleyra.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Ean telika aporrifqei ayto to keimeno apo thn allh pleyra;\nTSIODRAS: Diadikastika, qa mporoysate na mas peite th synexeia; Exei apanthsei h ellhnikh pleyra, exei apanthsei h pleyra twn Skopiwn, h epomenh kinhsh poia qa einai;\nANTWNAROS: H prwtoboylia ayth th stigmh anhkei ston k. Nimits.\nKORAH: Genika sth diplwmatikh faretra ths kybernhshs yparxei panta to oplo toy veto, oson afora ta Skopia, Makedonia h opws einai to onoma poy proteinei o k. Nimits;\nKORAH: San oplo antistashs kapoia dedomenh stigmh.\nANTWNAROS: Veto se poion;\nKORAH: Ean den apodexqoyn ta Skopia na mplokarei h Ellada thn eisodo toys sthn E.E.;\nANTWNAROS: H qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs einai safhs. Pisteyei oti mono me thn ejeyresh mias amoibaia apodekths lyshs sto qema ths onomasias kai oi dimereis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn qa beltiwqoyn apofasistika kai h staqerothta sthn eyryterh perioxh qa wfelhqei. Epishs, qa sthrixqoyn oi prospaqeies poy kanei h geitonikh xwra gia entajh ths, toso sthn E.E., oso kai sto NATO.\nKORAH: Ean pei oxi, qa xrhsimopoihsoyme veto;\nANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka epi toy qematos.\nGKOYTZANHS: Xqes, o k. Nimits eixe mia synanthsh me ton k. Dhmhtrof. H ellhnikh kybernhsh enhmerwqhke gia thn apanthsh twn Skopiwn, apo ton k. Nimits;\nANTWNAROS: Apo plhrofories poy exoyme -kai opws diafainotan hdh apo diafores dhlwseis ekproswpwn ths geitonikhs xwras- oi arxes ths PGDM den fainetai na apodexontai thn protash diapragmateyshs toy dieqnoys diapragmateyth k. Nimits. Opws sas eipa, o k. Nimits se opoiodhpote qema poy sxetizetai me tis epafes poy kanei, exei epiballei black out. Gi ayto sas eipa oti anamenoyme thn topoqethsh toy k. Nimits. Ekeinos einai poy kanei tis epafes metajy twn dyo pleyrwn. Ekeinos katelhje se ena keimeno, to opoio ypebale stis dyo pleyres. Ekeinos exei kai th dynatothta na topoqethqei.\nGALIATSATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe an exw katalabei kala h kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh, ean kai efoson oi proypoqeseis mas ikanopoioyn kai yparxei eyreia synainesh apo ola ta kommata sthn Ellada, na anagnwrisoyme ta Skopia me to onoma poy proteinei o k. Nimits. Kai an bebaiws to dexqoyn ta Skopia. H erwthsh moy einai h ejhs: Sthn periptwsh poy fqanoyme se mia symfwnia gia to onoma kai ola lynontai kalws, toys katoikoys aytoy toy kratoys kai th systatikh eqnothta th megalh ws ti thn anagnwrizoyme;\nANTWNAROS: Eipate oti h ellhnikh pleyra einai diateqeimenh me synainesh klp. klp. na apodexqei ayto to onoma. Ola ta qemata ta opoia perilambanontai mesa sto keimeno, ejartwntai to ena apo to allo. Einai antikeimeno synolikhs diapragmateyshs. Emeis eipame oti qewroyme to sygkekrimeno eggrafo ws bash gia thn enarjh diapragmateyshs. Yparxoyn para polla qemata, metajy twn opoiwn kai ayto poy anaferate, poy einai pros dieykrinish. H qetikh ekbash mias diapragmateyshs, synolika, ejartatai apo thn yparjh symfwnias se polla epi meroys qemata ta opoia einai - to kaqena jexwrista endexomenws @ poly megalhs shmasias gia to synoliko apotelesma ths diapragmateyshs.\nIWANNOY: Xqes kai ta tria kommata ths antipoliteyshs zhthsan apo koinoy thn epikyrwsh toy Eyrwsyntagmatos kai me dhmochfisma, afoy chfistei apo th Boylh. H kybernhsh qa skefqei ayth thn protash, meta thn kyrwsh apo th Boylh na kyrwqei kai me dhmochfisma;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei parei safh qesh. Prokeitai gia mia qesh thn opoia eixan parei oles oi ellhnikes kybernhseis apo to @74 kai meta, sxetika me thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh kai th syndesh ths Elladas me thn Eyrwph. Den qewrei oti meta apo thn anamenomenh epikyrwsh toy Eyrwsyntagmatos apo th Boylh, qa yparxei logos na diejaxqei dhmochfisma. Allwste qa hqela na sas qymisw oti, opws sas eipa, kai oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis eixan pei oti den yphrxe logos dhmochfismatos. Sas ypenqymizw oti to 1998 o tote Prwqypoyrgos k. Shmiths rhta kai kathgorhmatika elege: ``Einai pagia taktikh oti sthn Ellada den apofasizontai ta qemata twn synqhkwn ths E.E. me dhmochfisma, alla mesa apo tis diadikasies poy problepontai sto Syntagma apo th Boylh''.\nBLAXOS: Dhladh mas lete ``empros sto dromo poy xaraje o k. Shmiths'';\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti ta dyo megala kommata ths Boylhs, ypo palaioteres kai neoteres hgesies, den eixan qesei qema dhmochfismatos. Aytes oi prwtoboylies poy ejyphretoyn alloys stoxoys, den nomizw oti einai pros to symferon twn Ellhnwn politwn, na klhqoyn dhladh gia trith fora mesa se 14 @ 15 mhnes stis kalpes.\nIWANNOY: Ti apantate s` aytoys poy lene pws fobatai h kybernhsh endexomenws oti o ellhnikos laos mporei na katachfisei to Eyrwsyntagma; Yparxei tetoia anhsyxia;\nANTWNAROS: Sth Boylh an den kanw laqos yparxoyn dyo kommata ta opoia ekproswpoyn synolika peripoy to 90% toy ellhnikoy laoy kai ta opoia exoyn ekfrastei yper toy Eyrwsyntagmatos. Den ekfrazoyn ayta ta dyo kommata th boylhsh twn Ellhnwn kai twn Ellhnidwn politwn;\nKAKALHS: Kai sth Gallia to synolo, sxedon, toy politikoy kosmoy einai yper toy Eyrwsyntagmatos alla to 54% toy gallikoy laoy, symfwna me tis dhmoskophseis, einai kata toy Eyrwsyntagmatos. Ayto poy eipate den synepagetai ara kai laikh etymhgoria.\nANTWNAROS: H kaqe xwra exei th dikh ths istoria, sxetika me th diejagwgh dhmochfismatwn. Sthn Ellada olh h eyrwpaikh poreia perase mesa apo th Boylh. Kai malista gia qemata, gia synqhkes poy eixan megalyterh barythta apo ayth th sygkekrimenh. Allwste eipame oti se kaqe xwra akoloyqeitai o dromos poy h sygkekrimenh xwra exei epilejei gia thn eyrwpaikh ths diadromh.\nGKOYTZANHS: An moy epitrepete, otan h koinwnia chfizei ena komma gia na ginei kybernhsh, den shmainei oti symfwnei apolyta me ola ta shmeia toy programmatos toy. Mporei to Eyrwsyntagma na einai ena apo ekeina ta shmeia sta opoia h ellhnikh koinwnia den symfwnei. Pws to proejofleite;\nANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei. Ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs exoyn to dikaiwma, bebaiws, na kanoyn tis dikes toys topoqethseis.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Exw dyo erwthmata gia oikonomika qemata. To ena einai an h kybernhsh telika meleta to endexomeno katarghshs toy katwtatoy misqoy kai nomizw oti oi polites xreiazontai diabebaiwsh peri aytoy. Kai to deytero einai pws akribws ennoei o k. Alogoskoyfhs kai h kybernhsh th synainesh sto qema ths oikonomias kai stis diarqrwtikes allages.\nANTWNAROS: Na sas diabasw ti akribws eipe o k. Alogoskoyfhs xqes;\nPALAIOLOGOS: Gia th systash diakommatikhs epitrophs. Einai gnwsto ayto.\nANTWNAROS: Kai prosqese: ``Se kaqe periptwsh omws, h eyqynh gia thn prowqhsh twn anagkaiwn metarryqmisewn, barainei emas''. H kybernhsh den apempolei to dikaiwma ths na kanei metarryqmiseis. Einai ypoxrewsh ths na kanei metarryqmiseis. Eipe de epishs o k. Alogoskoyfhs oti ``einai kati poy to xrwstame sta paidia mas, sta opoia den mporoyme na afhsoyme xreh kai barh, alla prepei na afhsoyme mia akmazoysa kai dynath oikonomia''. Kaloyme loipon thn antipoliteysh s` ayto to dromo poy emeis exoyme xarajei kai qeloyme na akoloyqhsoyme, na erqoyn kai na symporeytoyn. Na poyn tis apoceis toys, na symprajoyn ki ekeinoi sth diamorfwsh tetoiwn allagwn oi opoies, kata thn ektimhsh mas, einai aparaithtes. Se ekeinoys enapokeitai an qa symprajoyn.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Na symfwnhsoyn dhladh akomh kai sthn katarghsh toy katwtatoy misqoy;\nPALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs; Giati yparxoyn shmera dhmosieymata poy anaferontai.\nANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den sxoliazw memonwmena dhmosieymata.\nPALAIOLOGOS: Egw rwtw omws gia thn kybernhsh: Yparxei stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs to endexomeno ths katarghshs toy katwtatoy misqoy;\nANTWNAROS: Den exw tetoies plhrofories.\nBLAXOS: Dhladh rwthsate kai den sas edwsan apanthsh;\nANTWNAROS: Na sas ikanopoihsw kyrie Blaxo: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw ayrio.\nBLAXOS: Ayto malista. Ayto einai allo pragma.\nKORAH: Tis prohgoymenes hmeres eixame mia sygkroysh anamesa ston Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias kai ton armodio Ypoyrgo ton k. Paylopoylo, se oti afora to wrario twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. O k. Meimarakhs eqese ena poly eylogo erwthma. Apo th stigmh poy ayth h kybernhsh exei san stoxo ths, opws diamhnyei synexws, thn ejyphrethsh twn politwn, giati den ejetazei to endexomeno se kapoies yphresies kai se periodoys aixmhs na syzhthqei h epektash toy wrarioy; Dhladh giati prepei na einai ayto to klassiko 08:00 @ 15:00 h 08:00 @ 14:00, poso einai sto dhmosio, den to jerw akribws.\nANTWNAROS: Kaqe protash, kaqe idea einai asfalws gonimh.\nKORAH: Giati o k. Paylopoylos to apekleise oristika.\nANTWNAROS: H shmerinh kybernhsh exei dwsei thn plhrh yposthrijh ths sta Kentra Ejyphrethshs Politwn. Synolika se olh thn Ellada leitoyrgoyn kati ligotero apo 1.000 KEP. H kybernhsh ta enisxyse me pantos eidoys ejoplismo, alla kai me to proswpiko poy xreiazotan. Toys dinei th dynatothta na ejyphretoyn toys polites kai to apogeyma. Qa ryqmistei kai h leitoyrgia @ orismenwn ryqmizetai hdh @ gia to Sabbato. An den kanw laqos einai kapoy 140 ayta poy leitoyrgoyn me aytes tis synqhkes. Ayto ti shmainei; Olo kai perissotero dhmosies yphresies syndeontai me ta KEP. Me ton tropo ayto ayjanoyn diarkws oi dynatothtes poy exoyn oi polites na apoktoyn, mesw twn KEP, ta eggrafa, ta pistopoihtika, tis bebaiwseis poy xreiazontai xwris na ypoxrewnontai na prosfeygoyn oi idioi stis dhmosies yphresies. Me th leitoyrgia kai ta apogeymata ejyphretoyntai oi polites oi opoioi to prwi doyleyoyn kai den mporoyn kata tekmhrio na apeyqynqoyn se dhmosies yphresies. Ektos toytoy, kata peristash, leitoyrgoyn orismenes dhmosies yphresies se wres oi opoies einai ektos toy synhqoys wrarioy. Gia tis efories h gia ta Taxydromeia, gnwrizete oti leitoyrgoyn, ektos wrarioy, kata thn periodo ths ypobolhs twn forologikwn dhlwsewn. Yparxoyn eidikes ryqmiseis gia toys arxaiologikoys xwroys kai ta moyseia, oi opoies kai qa beltiwqoyn. As mhn jexname oti edw, sto palio Ypoyrgeio Typoy, stis dyo Grammateies poy systegazontai twra, einai mia kat` ejoxhn dhmosia yphresia opoy ergazontai ypallhloi kai apogeymatines kai bradines wres kai polles fores kai Sabbatokyriako. Qelw na pw oti ayto deixnei pws stis dhmosies yphresies yparxei eyelijia ekei opoy xreiazetai. Synepws den yparxei logos na ginetai syzhthsh gia genikeysh ths allaghs toy wrarioy stis dhmosies yphresies, alla na ginontai oi anagkaies prosarmoges opote xreiazetai kai opote krinetai oti einai anagkaio ap` ton xarakthra ths perioxhs, fer` eipein, an einai toyristikh perioxh.\nkyber2html v1.05c run on Tuesday, 12 April 2005 - 15:05:13 UTC


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url: =Antenna: Sports News in Greek (PM), 98-05-05\nLast Updated: Tuesday, 05-May-98 15:39:56\nO tritos hmitelikos twn plei of toy mpasket metajy Olympiakoy kai PAOK poy qa ginei ayrio sto stadio eirhnhs kai filias, qa krinei thn omada poy qa parei to eishthrio toy telikoy.\nXqes to apogeyma, sto katamesto Alejandreio o dikefalos toy borra, epikrathse twn eryqroleykwn me 56-50 kai isofarise se ena-ena tis nikes.\nO Prentragk Stogiakobits apo pleyras nikhtwn petyxe 18 pontoys kai o Rooyan 13. Apo ton Olympiako o Fasoylas shmeiwse 11 pontoys.\nSto allo zeygari. Stis 20.45 apoce sto kleisto twn Olympiakwn Egkatastasewn, h AEK ypodexetai ton Panaqhnaiko, sto deytero metajy toys agwna.\nO Olympiakos nikhse me 3-0 set thn Orestiada, sto tetarto teliko toy prwtaqlhmatos bolley ths A1 Kathgorias.\nTa set 15-8, 15-6, 15-5.\nOi dyo omades einai dyo-dyo stis nikes kai ola qa kriqoyn ston ayriano agwna poy qa ginei sthn Orestiada, opoy o nikhths qa katakthsei ton titlo.\nH dioikhsh ths omadas mpasket toy Panaqhnaikoy me xqesinh ths anakoinwsh anaferei pws ta synqhmata poy akoysthkan ston agwna me thn AEK, den exoyn kammia sxesh me thn dioikhsh ths omadas.\nApo thn pleyra toy o proedros ths Podosfairikhs omadas Giwrgos Bardinogiannhs yposthrije pws apo thn stigmh poy akoysthkan ayta ta synqhmata sto kleisto twn olympiakwn egkatastasewn h eyqynh barainei thn dioikhsh ths omadas mpasket.\nAyrio qa metabei sto Beligradi o Ntoysan Mpagiebits gia na parakoloyqhsei ton teliko toy Kypelloy Gioygkoslabias anamesa sthn Partizan kai thn Ompilits kai na dei metegrafikoys stoxoys poy endiaferoyn ton Olympiako.\nAyth thn ebdomada, sto metajy, qa yparxoyn ejelijeis gia tis piqanes metagrafes toy Antza, toy Lakh kai toy Poyrsaitidh.\nMesa sto epomeno dekahmero qa erqei sthn Ellada o Omospondiakos texnikos Anxel Iorntaneskoy. O Roymanos texnikos qa exei kyklo epafwn me toys anqrwpoys ths EPO, me basiko qema thn epilogh toy bohqoy toy sto antiproswpeytiko mas sygkrothma.\nMe thn symmetoxh 102 aqlhtwn apo 11 xwres ths Eyrwphs qa diejaxqei apo thn Pempth o dieqnhs podhlatikos gyros ths kathgorias efhbwn ''14a Aqhnaia''.\nTelos, gia thn proteleytaia agwnistikh toy Agglikoy Prwtaqlhmatos, h Mantsester Gioynaitent nikhse me 3-0 thn Lhnts. Sth baqmologia, h Arsenal- poy ejasfalise ton titlo-exei 78 baqmoys enanti 74 ths Mantsester.\nant1spgr2html v1.00 run on Tuesday, 5 May 1998 - 16:09:26 UTC


url: = Kommatikes diergasies gia to apotelesma\n Episkech Xrysoxoidh sto Leyko Oiko\n Nees apologies melwn ths 17N\n Periodeia Shmith sthn Eyrwph gia dieyrynsh EE\n Byqisthke ploio ston Atlantiko\n Diaboyleyseis gia entajh newn xwrwn sto NATO\n Adiallakth h B. Korea gia ta pyrhnika\n Enwpion toy dikasthrioy melh ths Al Kainta\n Apeilh gia bomba sto Xrhmatisthrio toy Koybeit\n ''Basilissa'' enantion ''Basilissas''\n Anebhke h dhmotikothta toy Peroybianoy proedroy\n22/10/2002 11:25:00 pm\nTa symperasmata apo thn prwth anagnwsh twn eklogikwn apotelesmatwn syzhtoyn ta kommatika organa. Proswpa, epiloges, symmaxies kai anatropes briskontai sthn prwth grammh twn syzhthsewn. O prwqypoyrgos exei aythn thn wra synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh. Qa akoloyqhsoyn epafes, thlefwnikes epikoinwnies kai syzhthseis toy Kwsta Shmith me synergates toy prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn ta problhmata poy odhghsan se apwleies Dhmwn kai Nomarxiwn se agrotikes, hmiastikes, alla kai laikes synoikies, opws h B' Aqhnwn.\nThn epomenh ebdomada, qa synedriasei to ektelestiko grafeio toy PASOK enw sta mesa Noembrioy qa pragmatopoihqei synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy kommatos.\nAjizei na anaferqei oti to PASOK, an kai exei kerdisei 23 Nomarxies, entoytois apwlese orismena kastra toy, gegonos poy apodidetai apo thn Xarilaoy Trikoyph stoys diagkwnismoys stelexwn, kyriws stis topikes koinwnies.\nMilwntas nwritera sth NET 105.8 o boyleyths toy PASOK Mixalhs Neonakhs dhlwse pws ta eklogika apotelesmata de qa htan idia, ean eixame shmera boyleytikes ekloges.\nSto antipalo stratopedo, o Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei stis 12 me toys nomarxes poy ejeleghsan me th shmaia ths ND.\nEpishma to komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, yposthrizei oti symfwna me ta apotelesmata twn Dhmotikwn kai Nomarxiakwn eklogwn, sygkentrwnei se eqnikh klimaka pososto 46% enanti 40% toy PASOK.\n" H kybernhsh ofeilei na ajiopoihsei to mhnyma, na skeftei ti ftaiei kai na to diorqwsei " ypogrammise sto radiofwno ths NET o Arhs Sphliwtopoylos.\nApo thn pleyra toy, o Giwrgos Boylgarakhs, milwntas sth NET 105,8 tonise oti to komma toy qa prepei na problhmatistei gia ta aitia poy thn odhghsan sthn htta ths ypernomarxias Aqhnwn Peiraia.\nSymperasmata kai gia thn Aristera\nTa yper kai ta kata ths anametrhshs metroyn kai ta kommata ths aristeras.\nSe ejelijh brisketai synedriash toy politikoy grafeioy toy KKE kai synedriash ths Politikhs Grammateias toy SYN.\nStis 13.30 qa paraxwrhsei synenteyjh Typoy o Nikos Kwnstantopoylos.\n" Prepei na synexistei h prospaqeia diamorfwshs enos neoy polyxrwmoy proodeytikoy reymatos" dhlwse sthn NET 105,8 o epikefalhs ths AEKA Nikos Mpisths.\n22/10/2002 10:26:00 pm\nTa apotelesmata sth maxh kata ths tromokratias sthn Ellada alla kai toys stoxoys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia to mellon, paroysiase o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalhs Xrysoxoidhs ston bohqo symboylo Eqnikhs Asfaleias toy proedroy Mpoys, armodio gia qemata Tromokratias, strathgo Tzon Gkornton kata th synanthsh toys sto Leyko Oiko.\nSto epikentro oi Olympiakoi Agwnes\nEjetasqhkan epishs h synergasia gia thn antimetwpish ths Dieqnoys Tromokratias, h proetoimasia gia thn asfalh diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn ths Aqhnas, alla kai o rolos ths Elladas sthn apotroph Tromokratikhs drashs sta Balkania.\n" Nomizw pws htan mia para poly epoikodomhtikh syzhthsh kai anadeijame pragmatika to rolo ths xwras sthn prospaqeia poy ginetai ton teleytaio kairo gia thn eirhnh kai staqerothta sthn perioxh " dhlwse o k. Xrysoxoidhs kai tonise oti ena apo ta basika qemata syzhthshs htan oi Olympiakoi Agwnes.\n" Ejhghsame oti exoyme megales prosdokies na organwsoyme epityxhmenoys Olympiakoys Agwnes, ena aiwna meta thn prwth analhch twn Agwnwn apo th xwra mas ", shmeiwse o ypoyrgos epishmainontas th dimerh prospaqeia poy ginetai me tis HPA ston tomea asfaleias.\nEmfanisqhke de aisiodojos oti h organwsh ths asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, qa stefqei me epityxia.\nSth synanthsh symmeteixan epishs oi presbeis twn dyo xwrwn, Giwrgos Sabbaidhs kai Tomas Miler, o dieyqynths ths antitromokratikhs yphresias ypostrathgos Stelios Syrros, o ypeyqynos asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn ypostrathgos Kwnstantinidhs kai stelexh toy Symboylioy Eqnikhs Asfaleias toy Leykoy Oikoy.\n22/10/2002 10:23:00 pm\nShmera anamenetai na apologhqoyn oi Hraklhs Kwstarhs, Kwstas Karatswlhs kai Dhmhtrhs Koyfontinas gia tis symplhrwmatikes kathgories poy apaggelqhkan se baros toys. Xqes, symplhrwmatikh apologia ston eidiko efeth Anakrith Lewnida Zerbompeako, edwse stis fylakes Korydalloy, o Patroklos Tselenths, kata thn opoia apodexqhke mono symmetoxh sth lhsteia toy Taxydromikoy Tamieythrioy sthn Pathsiwn. Arnhqhke wstoso, opoiadhpote anameijh toy sthn apopeira dolofonias toy amerikanoy loxia, Rompert Tsant to 1984. O Basilhs Jhros zhthse kai phre prosqesmia gia na apologhqei ayrio, sxetika me thn symplhrwmatikh diwjh poy exei askhqei enantion toy kai afora thn ektojeysh royketas sthn amerikanikh presbeia to 1996, apo thn opoia eixan traymatistei 3 astynomikoi.\n22/10/2002 9:37:00 pm\nEyrwpaikh periodeia jekina thn Pempth o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths prokeimenoy na proetoimasei to edafos gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sth Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Meqayrio qa metabei stis Bryjelles gia na symmetasxei sthn ektakth Synodo Koryfhs twn "15", enw th Deytera qa synanthqei me ton Bretano prwqypoyrgo Toni Mpler. Parallhla, synomilies gia th dieyrynsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs qa exoyn kai shmera sto Loyjemboyrgo oi 15 ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn twn xwrwn -melwn ths Koinothtas. Epafes me thn ellhnikh kybernhsh gia to Kypriako qa exei o Albaro nte Soto, eidikos apestalmenos toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE, poy anamenetai shmera apo th Leykwsia sthn Aqhna.\n22/10/2002 7:55:00 pm\nSwa einai kai ta 18 melh toy plhrwmatos toy forthgoy ploioy "Gewrgios S", sto opoio shmeiwqhke eisroh ydatwn, enw eplee 120 milia apo tis gallikes aktes toy Atlantikoy wkeanoy. Oi kairikes synqhkes, poy epikratoysan sthn perioxh htan idiaitera asxhmes, kaqws sth perioxh epnean anemoi entasews 9 mpofor, me apotelesma na kriqei skopimh epixeirhsh diaswshs me elikoptera kai parapleonta ploia. To plhrwma parelhfqh apo elikoptera kai metaferqhke sth gallikh bash Lanboek, ta opoia metaferqhkan sto nosokomeio toy Mprest gia prolhptikoys logoys. Se anakoinwsh toy ellhnikoy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias tonizetai oti einai kala sthn ygeia toys, oi dyo Ellhnes naytikoi, o ploiarxos Nikolaos Ponhros 57 etwn kai o texnikos Basileios Tselemphs.\nTo mhkoys 120 metrwn emporiko skafos poy metaferei 5.800 tonoys argiloy, exei misobyqistei kaqws exei ypostei rhgma me apotelesma na kataklystei apo nera to mhxanostasio toy ploioy.\n22/10/2002 10:36:00 pm\nO Amerikanos proedros Tzortz Mpoys anakoinwse xqes brady ston gg toy NATO, Tzortz Rompertson, pws "mesa se liges ebdomades" qa toy gnwstopoihsei enan katalogo me tis xwres poy qa epiqymoyse na entaxqoyn sth Boreioatlantikh Symmaxia.\nParallhla, amerikanikes phges poy den katonomazontai, dhlwsan pws o Mpoys protiqetai na metabei sth Liqoyania gia na synanthqei me toys hgetes twn xwrwn ths Baltikhs meta th synodo toy NATO ton Noembrio sthn Praga, gegonos poy mexri shmera apotelei to pleon safes shma pws oi treis prwhn sobietikes dhmokraties (Liqoyania, Esqonia, Lettonia) qa klhqoyn na entaxqoyn sth Symmaxia.\nIdiaitera shmantikh h synodos to Noembrio\nH idia phgh arnhqhke na dwsei alles leptomereies gia thn prwth episkech toy Mpoys sth Liqoyania, h opoia epipleon den exei epibebaiwqei apo ton Leyko Oiko.\nPantws, oyte o Mpoys, oyte o Rompertson exoyn apokalycei poies apo tis ennea ypochfies xwres qa klhqoyn na entaxqoyn sto NATO kata th synodo ths 21hs-22as Noembrioy, omws ginetai syzhthsh gia synolika epta xwres.\nO Rompertson exei xarakthrisei thn prosexh synodo ws "piqanws th shmantikoterh sthn istoria toy NATO", kyriws dioti qa dromologhsei th metallajh ths Symmaxias, h opoia pleon egkataleipei to dogma ths apotrophs mias sobietikhs epiqeshs kata ths Dytikhs Eyrwphs.\n"Pisteyw pws qa exoyme enan megalo ariqmo apo nea melh, mia shmantikh dieyrynsh, me nees dynatothtes gia na antistaqei kata ths tromokratias kai na antimetwpisei tis alles proklhseis kai toys efialtes poy qa mas paroysiasqoyn sto mellon, kaqws kai tis nees sxeseis me th Rwsia kai thn Oykrania", tonise o Rompertson se synenteyjh Typoy. Oi ennea ypochfies xwres gia entajh sto NATO einai h Albania, h Boylgaria, h Lettonia, h Esqonia, h Liqoyania,\n22/10/2002 9:52:00 pm\nH Boreia Korea proeidopoihse shmera tis HPA, para tis pieseis na apempolhsei to programma kataskeyhs pyrhnikwn oplwn ths, oti qa probei se aprosdiorisths fysews "sklhroteres antenergeies" ean h Oyasigkton den symfwnhsei na proselqei se synomilies gyrw apo ayto to qema. "Ean oi HPA epimeinoyn stis kinhseis toys gia piesh kai katanagkasmoy ths Boreioy Koreas dia ths bias, tote h teleytaia den exei allh enallaktikh lysh para na analabei sklhroteres antenergeies", tonizei se arqro ths h Rontongk Sinmoyn, to epishmo organo toy kybernwntos Kommatos twn Ergatwn.\nEirhneytikh epilysh epizhta h Amerikh\n"H monh diejodos gia tis HPA einai na prosfygoyn ston symbibasmo kai sthn eirhnh kai oxi sthn politikh ths pygmhs", tonizetai sto idio eggrafo, poy anaparagei kai to epishmo praktoreio eidhsewn KCNA.\nO Amerikanos apestalmenos sth Seoyl, se shmerines toy dhlwseis afhse na diafanei pws oi elpides gia dialogo me thn Piongkgiangk einai isxnes, tonizontas pws h Boreios Korea exei apwlesei kaqe ajiopistia. Molatayta, o presbeyths Tomas Xamparnt dhlwse pws h Oyasigkton prosdoka mia eirhnikh epilysh toy problhmatos, kai qa basisqei stis diplwmatikes pieseis gia na piesei ton kommoynistiko Borra na egkataleicei to pyrhniko toy programma.\n22/10/2002 8:06:00 pm\nKathgories gia yposthrijh ths tromokratikhs organwshs "Al Kainta" aphggelqhsan xqes se eji Yemeno-amerikanoys. O eisaggeleas Maikl Mpatl dhlwse pws oi enorkoi paredwsan to diptyxo toy kathgorhthrioy gia toys eji ypoptoys, poy anaferetai sth bohqeia pros thn tromokratikh organwsh "Al Kainta" kai sthn paroxh ylikhs bohqeias sthn organwsh poy oi HPA kathgoroyn gia tis epiqeseis ths 11hs Septembrioy. Oi kathgoroymenoi einai programmatismeno na paroysiasqoyn shmera se omospondiako dikasthrio toy Mpafalo.\nSthn periptwsh poy katadikasqoyn antimetwpizoyn poines kaqeirjhs 15 etwn gia tis kathgories ths synwmosias kai 10 etwn gia tis ypoloipes kathgories.\nOi amerikanikes arxes petyxan thn apaggelia kathgoriwn pente ebdomades meta th syllhch toys sthn Lakaoyana, ths Neas Yorkhs, konta sto Mpafalo, meta tis kataqeseis dyo ej aytwn, poy tonisan oti eixan parakoloyqhsei ekpaideysh se ena stratopedo ths "Al Kainta" sto Afganistan, thn Anoijh toy 2001.\nOi synhgoroi twn eji, toy 29xronoy Saxim Aloyan, toy 22xronoy Moyxtar al Mpakri, toy 24xronoy Giasein Taxer, toy 26xronoy Faizal Gkalamp, toy 25xronoy Giaxia Gkompa, kai toy 24xronoy Safal Mosent, anteteinan pws oi pelates toys eixan metabei sto geitoniko Pakistan gia na epekteinoyn tis qrhskeytikes spoydes toys kai pws den htan melh enos "lanqanontos pyrhnos", ths "Al Kainta" poy sxediaze epiqeseis stis HPA.\nEn tw metajy sto Milano, o anaplhrwths genikos eisaggeleas Ntamproyozo, anefere oti 2.000 anqrwpoi ekpaideymenoi se afganika stratopeda briskontai pleon sthn Italia. Malista oi gallikes arxes synelaban enan ypopto gia sxeseis me thn "Al Kainta", melos tynhsiakhs organwshs me edra thn Italia.\nSth ''mayrh lista'' h islamistikh organwsh Tzamaa Isloamigia\nEn tw metajy, h Oyasingkton prokeitai na eggracei sth mayrh lista me tis tromokratikes organwseis thn islamistikh organwsh Tzamaa Isloamigia, thn opoia kaqypodeiknyei ws ypeyqynh gia thn epiqesh sto Mpali ths Indonhsias, kata thn opoia exasan th zwh toys 190 atoma stis 12 Oktwbrioy, opws tonise xqes Amerikanos ajiwmatoyxos.\nH Tzamaa, poy pisteyetai oti diathrei desmoys me to tromokratiko diktyo ths Al Kainta, filodojei na egkaqidrysei ena qeokratiko islamiko kratos, poy qa kalyptei th Malaisia, thn Indonhsia, th Sigkapoyrh, to Mproynei kai th nhso Mintanao, stis noties Filippines, opws exei yposthrijei h kybernhsh ths Sigkapoyrhs, h opoia prosfata synelabe panw apo 30 melh ths organwshs ayths.\nApo tis epiqeseis ths 11hs Septembrioy 2001 kata twn HPA, to amerikaniko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn exei eggracei ston katalogo me tis apagoreymenes organwseis peripoy 50 onomata tromokratikwn omadwn kai fysikwn proswpwn.\n22/10/2002 10:15:00 pm\nEkkenwqhke shmera to xrhmatisthrio toy Koybeit meta apo thlefwnhma agnwstoy gia topoqethsh bombas, aneferan aytoptes martyres. Ajiwmatoyxoi twn yphresiwn asfaleias sto ktirio dhlwsan sto Roiter oti elaban thlefwnhma agnwstoy poy proeidopoioyse oti eixe topoqethqei bomba sto Xrhmatisthrio. Pyrotexnoyrgoi ths astynomias me th bohqeia eidika ekpaideymenwn skyliwn ereynoyn to ktirio. Prin apo eji mhnes to xrhmatisthrio toy Koybeit eixe ekkenwqei kai pali meta apo analogo thlefwnhma poy apodeixthke omws oti htan farsa. Oi arxes toy Emiratoy eixan anakoinwsei pantws prin liges hmeres oti anakalycan pyrhna Islamistwn poy eixan diasyndeseis me thn "Al Kainta", meta thn epiqesh dyo Koybeitianwn enantion Amerikanwn pezonaytwn poy meteixan se ekpaideytikh askhsh.\n22/10/2002 11:18:00 mm\nMe stoxo to qayma, h AEK antimetwpizei shmera sto fhmismeno ''Santiagko Mpernampeoy'' thn Real Madriths kai qa prospaqhsei gia mia kalh emfanish, kai ean einai dynaton, ena qetiko apotelesma kontra sth ''Basilissa''. O Ntoysan Mpagebits poy emfanisthke eydiaqetos sthn kaqierwmenh synenteyjh Typoy, paradexqhke oti einai poly dyskolo gia thn omada toy na kerdisei mesa sto 'Mpernampeoy", epeshmane omws oti perimenei apo toys paiktes toy na exoyn kalh apodosh kai na prospaqhsoyn gia to kalytero kontra sthn prwtaqlhtria Eyrwphs.\nXwris Figko kai Raoyl h Real\n"Einai yperboliko na leme oti qa kerdisoyme th Real, omws sto podosfairo ola ginontai. Exoyme kalh cyxologia kai den prepei oi paiktes na ephreazontai apo tyxon oikonomika problhmata. Exoyme piasei kalh apodosh sta prohgoymena paixnidia kai qeloyme na synexisoyme etsi", tonise o Ntoysan Mpagebits, enw anaferomenos sthn makra diakoph toy ellhnikoy prwtaqlhmatos dhlwse oti to gegonos ayto den mporei na apotelesei dikaiologia.\nO Serboellhnas texnikos ejefrase thn apoch oti oi apoysies twn Figko kai Raoyl den prokeitai na ephreasoyn toys "merengkes" kai epeshmane oti yparxoyn paiktes, opws o Stib MakManaman, poy einai etoimoi na toys antikatasthsoyn kai na apodeijoyn thn ajia toys.\nOso gia th Sabbatiatikh htta ths "Basilissas" apo th Santanter, o Mpagebits eipe: "Eida to mats sto binteo. Prepei na htan to xeirotero paixnidi ths Real ta teleytaia xronia. Makari na to epanalabei kai ayrio, alla to blepw poly dyskolo".\nO proponhths ths "Enwshs" rwthqhke kai gia thn cyxologia ths omadas toy, se mia apo tis dyskoloteres edres ths Eyrwphs. "Exoyme paiktes poy exoyn antimetwpisei megaloys antipaloys", tonise o Ntoysan Mpagebits kai synexise: "Xreiazetai diaforetikh nootropia sta paixnidia toy Tsampions Ligk. Se kaqe agwna yparxoyn stoixeia poy se bohqoyn na apokthseis empeiries, alla ola ejartwntai apo ton eayto soy".\nDiaithths toy agwna qa einai o Germanos Xermpert Fantel, o opoios ''sfyrizei'' gia prwth fora mats Ellhnikhs omadas sta Kypella Eyrwphs. (To 1998, sto Eyrwpaiko Prwtaqlhma Paidwn, eixe dieyqynei ton agwna Ellada-Soyhdia 2-0).\nSto allo paixnidi toy 3oy omiloy, h Roma ypodexetai sto ''Olimpiko'' th Gkenk kai logika den qa antimetwpisei problhma gia na fqasei sth nikh kai stoys treis baqmoys.\n22/10/2002 10:02:00 pm\nH dhmotikothta toy Peroybianoy proedroy Alexandro Toledo ayjhqhke epeita apo thn paradoxh pws einai o pateras enos ejwgamoy 14xronoy koritsioy, symfwna me dhmoskophsh poy dhmosieyqhke xqes. H ypoqesh poy afora thn Qarai, thn korh ths oikonomologoy Loykresia Oroqko, h opoia eixe desmo me ton Toledo otan ekeinos eixe xwrisei thn syzygo toy Eliane Karp, eixe rijei thn dhmotikothta toy proedroy molis sto 14% thn perasmenh Paraskeyh. Entoytois, mia nea sfygmometrhsh poy dhmosieyqhke xqes edeije pws h dhmotikothta toy Toledo, o opoios anelabe kaqhkonta molis pro enos etoys, exei ayjhqei kata 6 monades, sto 20%, afotoy paradexqhke pws h Qarai einai korh toy.\nThn Paraskeyh to brady o Toledo eixe emfanisqei sthn thleorash gia na anakoinwsei sto eqnos oti anagnwrizei thn Qarai ws korh toy.\nO proedros exei allh mia korh, thn 20xronh Santal, apo to gamo toy me thn Karp, thn belgikhs katagwghs syzygo toy, thn opoia jananymfeyqhke pro dyo etwn en mesw ths proeklogikhs ekstrateias.\nH ypoqesh ths ejwgamhs korhs toy Toledo katesth ''kratikh ypoqesh'', otan o dikasths toy Anwtatoy Dikasthrioy Xose Silba paradexqhke pws eixe synanthqei kryfa me ton proedro, th stigmh poy to anwtato dikastiko organo eixe aporricei allh mia dikastikh apofash, h opoia dietaze ton Toledo na pragmatopoihsei ejetaseis DNA.\neragr2html v1.00 run on Tuesday, 22 October 2002 - 9:15:59 UTC