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Papakwnstantinoy\n Anestalh h 24wrh ston OSE thn Paraskeyh\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 13:13\nSta ych h politikh antiparaqesh enocei twn aytodioikhtikwn eklogwn ths 7hs Noembrioy kai me aformh to dilhmma poy eqese o prwqypoyrgos gia swthria ths xwras h xreokopia. Milwntas se stenoys synergates toy thn Tetarth, o Giwrgos Papandreoy ejapelyse drimeia epiqesh sth ND, tonizontas oti h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh zhta na stamathsei h poreia twn megalwn allagwn kai ths anorqwshs ths xwras, me kindyno thn apostaqeropoihsh. Analoges dhlwseis ekane se thleoptiko staqmo o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn Giannhs Ragkoyshs, o opoios kathgorhse thn ND kai proswpika ton Antwnh Samara oti paizei politiko paixnidi poy mporei na odhghsei se tragwdia, thn wra poy h xwra brisketai se polemo oikonomikhs epibiwshs.\nAfhse ek neoy anoixto to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn o Papandreoy\nAnebhkan ek neoy oi tonoi ths politikhs antiparaqeshs thn Tetarth, liges hmeres prin tis aytodoikhtikes ekloges.\nBaries kathgories kata ths ND diatypwse o Prwqypoyrgos synomilwntas, shmera to prwi, me synergates toy, enw epanefere parallhla kai to qema twn prowrwn eklogwn, ``an xreiastei na milhsei o laos''.\nEidikotera o GiwrgosPapandreoy kathgorhse to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs oti zhtaei, oysiastika, na stamathsei h poreia ths xwras pros ta empros, mia poreia ``swthrias'' kai ``anorqwshs'' ths xwras, thn poreia ``twn megalwn allagwn''.\nDiatypwnontas tis qeseis toy o k. Papandreoy, kathgorhse akoma th ND oti, sthn oysia, epidiwkei thn ejyphrethsh ``afanwn symferontwn poy qeloyn na anakocoyn tis allages poy fernoyme sth xwra''.\nEtsi, eipe, hqele h ND na ermhneysei to opoio apotelesma, akomh kai me kindyno na apostaqeropoihqei h poreia ths xwras.\nO k. Papandreoy ejefrase th bebaiothta oti ``ayto to katalaban kala pleon oi polites'' kai thn pepoiqhsh oti ``den qa epitrecoyn se ekeinoys poy afoy mas odhghsan sto xeilos ths xreokopias lipotakthsan, na yponomeysoyn tis qysies twn Ellhnwn, th shmerinh staqerothta alla kai to omalo mellon ths xwras''.\nThn amesh antidrash ths ND prokalesan ta osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos .\nO ekproswpos ths ND Panos Panagiwtopoylos apo tis Bryjelles, opoy synodeyei ton Antwnh Samara, kathgorhse to Giwrgo Papandreoy oti diakatexetai apo paniko en ocei twn eklogwn toy Noembrioy kai gia ayto meta toys ekbiasmoys kai tis kindynologies, katafeygei pleon kai stis ybreis.\n``Meta thn kindynologia kai toys politikoys ekbiasmoys, o prwqypoyrgos kai oi ypoyrgoi toy ektrepontai kai se potamoys ybrewn enantion ths ND. Tipote apo ayta den aggizei to komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs. To mono poy epitygxanei, etsi, o k. Papandreoy einai na deixnei, akomh pio entona, to megalo paniko poy ton diakatexei mprosta stis ekloges ths 7hs Noembrioy'',tonise xarakthristika o k. Panagiwtopoylos.\nAntiparaqesh gia tis dhlwseis Ragkoysh\nAnaloges dhlwseis ekane se thleoptiko staqmo o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn Giannhs Ragkoyshs, o opoios kathgorhse thn ND kai proswpika ton Antwnh Samara oti paizei politiko paixnidi poy mporei na odhghsei se tragwdia, thn wra poy h xwra brisketai se polemo oikonomikhs epibiwshs.\nEpishmane akomh oti h Ellada einai se synqhkes polemoy oikonomikhs epibiwshs kai oti ta 110 dis. eyrw einai ta pyromaxika mas na kerdisoyme ton polemo, kathgorwntas parallhla ton k. Samara oti ``anti na xtypa mazi mas ton exqro, xtypa piswplata ta opla kai ta pyromaxika''.\nO k. Ragkoyshs ypogrammise oti o ellhnikos laos einai apolytws eleyqeros na chfisei o,ti qelei kai h chfos kaqws kai to mhnyma toy qa ginoyn apolytws sebasta apo thn kybernhsh.\nOi dhlwseis toy k. Ragkoysh, prokalesan thn amesh antidrash ths ND. O grammateas toy kommatos, Andreas Lykoyrentzos, apantwntas kathgorhse ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn gia alazoneia.\n``Ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn h ton exoyn panikobalei oi antidraseis ths koinwnias, meta th synenteyjh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h ton exei syneparei h ejoysia, thn opoia toy edwse o k. Papandreoy. Profanws, o politikos politismos, h dhmokratikh agwgh einai aretes agnwstes stoys ypoyrgoys toy PASOK. O k. Papandreoy einai ypeyqynos gi aytes tis symperifores, oi opoies kaqierwnoyn protypa aytarxismoy kai alazoneias sth dhmosia zwh ths xwras'', tonise o k. Lykoyrentzos.\n``Briskomaste mprosta se enan diplo krisimo stoxo. Prwton, na eklegoyn anqrwpoi ikanoi na diaxeiristoyn th megalh proklhsh toy Kallikrath, ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, ths topikhs anaptyjhs. Deyteron, na bgei h xwra isxyrh, na diafylajoyme dhladh thn politikh staqerothta, thn koinwnikh synoxh kai thn eqnikh enothta. Ara, o kaqenas prepei na skeftei kai na chfisei aytoys poy stelnoyn ayto to diplo mhnyma. Ayto poy leme einai para poly aplo, einai aytonohto mesa stoys kanones ths Dhmokratias'', tonise o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs, Eyaggelos Benizelos.\n``O prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy den dhlwse oti qa ginoyn opwsdhpote prwres ekloges. To endexomeno ayto o prwqypoyrgos to ejarthse apo to apotelesma twn aytodioikhtikwn eklogwn'', tonise o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, Giwrgos Papakwnstantinoy.\nSthn antimnhmoniakh chfo epimenoyn kai ta alla kommata ths antipoliteyshs.\n``An strecw th mnhmh moy pros ta pisw, to PASOK repei pros ton ekbiasmo poly syxna'', dhlwse sxetika kai h gg toy KKE, Aleka Paparhga, enw kalese toys polites na toy ``kocoyn th fora''. ``Stis 7 toy Noembrh h chfos prepei na einai chfos anatrophs ths politikhs toy PASOK kai ths ND'', tonise.\nSklhrh glwssa kata toy Prwqypoyrgoy xrhsimopoihse kai o proedros ths KO toy SYRIZA Alejhs Tsipras, apo thn Kerkyra opoy periodeyei. O k. Tsipras kathgorhse ton k. Papandreoy oti me thn politikh toy exei ftasei ton kosmo sto aproxwrhto kai kalese toys polites stis 7 toy Noembrh na amfisbhthsoyn to mnhmonio apo ta aristera, enisxyontas tis ypochfiothtes kai syndyasmoys ths rizospastikhs aristeras kai ths synanthshs ths me ton xwro toy koinwnikoy PASOK.\nOxi sthn perifronhsh twn aytodioikhtikwn eklogwn eipe o proedros ths Dhmokratikhs Aristeras, Fwths Koybelhs.\nH Komision den sxoliazei gia to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn dhlwse o ekproswpos ths Amanteoy Altafaz.\nPhgh: NET 105,8 - NET - APE/MPE\nSxetikh eidhsh: G. Papandreoy: ``Maxh gia apeleyqerwsh apo thn epithrhsh''\nSxetikh eidhsh: Ant. Samaras: ``Prwth fora enas Prwqypoyrgos apeilei to lao''\nSxetikh eidhsh: O apohxos ths diakanalikhs\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 16:00\nSyrriknwsh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias me ryqmo apo 2,5% ews 3% gia to 2011, proeblece o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, milwntas se oikonomiko foroym sth Lemeso ths Kyproy. O Giwrgos Papakwnstantinoy eipe epishs oti symfwna me ta anaqewrhmena stoixeia to elleimma qa kymanqei panw apo to 15%. Thn idia wra entones antidraseis prokalei h endiamesh ekqesh gia th Nomismatikh politikh ths Trapezas ths Elladas. Anodika synexizoyn na kinoyntai ta spreads, twn dekaetwn omologwn.\nProblech gia epibradynsh ths yfeshs\nProblech gia epibradynsh ths yfeshs ekane o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn Giwrgos Papakwnstantinoy apo th Lemeso ths Kyproy, milwntas sto Limassol Economic Forum.\nO k. Papakwnstantioy, eipe pws h anaptyjh qa syrriknwqei kata 4% fetos, kata 2,5% me 3%, to 2011. Sto prosxedio toy proypologismoy gia to 2011, poy dhmosieythke nwritera ton Oktwbrio, ektimatai oti to 2011 to AEP ths xwras qa meiwqei kata 2,6%, apo 4% to 2010.\nSymfwna me ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn, to elleimma toy 2009 qa kymanqei se epipeda anw toy 15% toy AEP. ``Meta thn telikh anaqewrhsh apo th Eurostat h opoia qa epikyrwsei ta ellhnika stoixeia gia to 2009 mia gia panta, (to elleimma) qa einai panw apo 15%'', tonise.\nO k. Papakwnstantinoy ejefrase th bebaiothta oti h Ellada qa kataferei to 2010 th megalyterh meiwsh elleimmatos poy exei ginei apo opoiadhpote xwra ths eyrwzwnhs kai epeshmane oti oi apofaseis ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs se ayth th dyskolh periodo ``einai oi swstes kai deixnoyn na exoyn apotelesma''.\nAntidraseis gia thn ekqesh ths TtE\nThn idia wra, polles syzhthseis, alla kai antidraseis prokaloyn oi protaseis toy dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados gia th meiwsh twn dapanwn toy Dhmosioy, mesa apo thn katarghsh organismwn kai yphresiwn.\nO Giwrgos Probopoylos mesa apo thn endiamesh ekqesh gia thn nomismatikh politikh tonizei oti den yparxoyn periqwria gia nea ayjhsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn kai ektima pws h kybernhsh qa prepei na estiasei sthn patajh ths forodiafyghs gia na ayjhsei ta forologika ths esoda.\nSymfwna me ton dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados metajy twn dapanwn, poy prepei na perikopoyn, einai h anastolh orismenwn drasthriothtwn twn KAPH, to kleisimo olwn twn zhmiogonwn dhmotikwn epixeirhsewn, h katarghsh twn perissoterwn forewn toy dhmosioy kai o periorismos twn dhmosiwn thleoptikwn kanaliwn.\n``Fysika kai den einai h qesh ths kybernhshs'', anefere o kybernhtikos ekproswpos Giwrgos Petalwths, erwthqeis an aspazetai tis protaseis poy kateqese me thn ekqesh ths TtE, o dioikhths ths Trapezas Giwrgos Probopoylos.\nO k. Petalwths epeshmane oti se ayth thn ekqesh yparxei mia sygkekrimenh analysh ths oikonomikhs katastashs, diatypwnontai kapoies protaseis kai shmeiwse oti ``h kybernhsh sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn poy exei, skeftetai, diaboyleyetai, epejergazetai oles tis protaseis, poy katatiqentai kai apofasizei, omws, panw sthn poreia poy exei xarajei h idia''.\nOloi symfwnoyme pws ekeino poy prepei na katapolemhqei einai oi spatales, dhlwse sth NET 105,8 o proedros ths boylhs Filippos Petsalnikos, kanontas logo gia anakribeies ths ekqeshs, estw kai se deytereyonta qemata.\nO kos Probopoylos safws exei to dikaiwma na kataqetei tis protaseis toy, anefere o kos Petsalnikos kai tonise oti prepei na staqoyme sta shmantika ths ekqeshs, poy diapistwnei pws h xwra brisketai sto meson mias prospaqeias h opoia an synexistei, sto telos toy 2011 qa yparjei ena mikro fws sto toynel.\nDen tiqetai qema syrriknwshs ths dhmosias thleorashs, jekaqarise, milwntas sth NET, o anaplhrwths ypoyrgos Politismoy Thlemaxos Xythrhs. Prosqese, malista, pws ``den akoyse ton k. Probopoylo na mila, otan ta prohgoymena xronia ginontan spatales sthn ERT''.\n``Einai ypokritikh h antidrash ths kybernhshs, dioti ``kokkinh grammh'' den yparxei gia thn kybernhsh. Ayta ta metra poy proteinei o k. Probopoylos exoyn hdh perpathsei edw kai polla xronia sthn Eyrwph. O ellhnikos laos kai idiaitera ta ergatika laika strwmata prepei na kocoyn th fora kai toy k. Probopoyloy kai toy k. Papandreoy kai olwn twn allwn poy synhgoroyn se mia tetoia politikh'', sxoliase h gg toy KKE, Aleka Paparhga.\n``O k. Probopoylos einai pio aysthros apo oti einai h Politeia. Ean ola ayta ta xronia oi diaforoi Prwqypoyrgoi ths xwras akoygan toys diaforoys Dioikhtes twn Trapezwn, shmera den qa eixame anagkh oyte ton k. Stros Kan, oyte thn troika. Epeidh omws ola ayta ta xronia oi Kybernhseis, oi Prwqypoyrgoi, ekanan "pelateiakh" politikh me toys chfoforoys, briskomaste se ayth thn dyskolh kamph na prepei na kanoyme pragmata safws antikoinwnika kai safws exqrika pros ton polith'', sxoliase o proedros toy LAOS, Giwrgos Karatzaferhs.\n``Oses apories mas afhse o prwqypoyrgos sthn proxqesinh toy synenteyjh hrqe xqes na tis apanthsei o dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Elladas kai mas eipe oyte ligo-oyte poly oti an to mhnyma ths kalphs einai eynoiko gia thn kybernhsh ayto poy qa akoloyqhsei qa einai perikopes misqwn, neo asfalistiko, katarghsh symbasewn, ayjhseis sta eisithria'', sxoliase o proedros ths KO toy SYRIZA, Alejhs Tsipras.\n``Emeis sth Dhmokratikh Aristera apo ta stoixeia sta opoia sthrizetai h ekqesh ths Trapezas ths Elladas symperainoyme oti den yparxei kamia eggyhsh ejodoy apo th krish, dioti h meiwsh toy elleimmatos exei sthrixqei sth sympiesh twn misqwn kai se entelws elliph kai anaimikh ayjhsh twn esodwn'' tonise o Dhmhtrhs Xatzhswkraths.\n``O k. Probopoylos, epeidh o idios profanws den qa xreiastei pote na "filojenhqei" se dhmotikh Lesxh Filias (KAPH), eishgeitai gia th swthria ths oikonomias mas thn katarghsh toys. Sthn oysia, o,ti exei apomeinei apo to legomeno koinwniko kratos, (opoy mono oi OTA exoyn na epideijoyn ergo), na ejafanistei. Ayto pragmatika einai dilhmma gia tis ekloges ths 7hs Noembrioy'', sxoliase o dhmarxos Aqhnaiwn kai proedros ths KEDKE Nikhtas Kaklamanhs.\nAnodika ta spreads\nThn idia wra thn anodikh toy poreia synexise kai thn Tetarth to spread toy ellhnikoy 10etoys omologoy enanti toy antistoixoy, jepernwntas tis 770 monades bashs.\n``H anodos twn spreds deixnei akribws to problhma poy qa eixe h ellhnikh oikonomia ean briskomastan kai pali, ws apotelesma enos ejairetika dysmenoys apotelesmatos stis ekloges, kati to opoio den pisteyoyme oti qa symbei, sthn katastash poy briskomastan prin parqoyn oi apofaseis poy parqhkan'', tonise sxetika o k. Papakwnstantinoy.\n``H antidrash twn agorwn sta spreads deixnei akribws ti shmainei an yparxei staqerothta sth xwra. Ayto poy kanoyme emeis ws kybernhsh, einai na diafylassoyme ayth th staqerothta mesa apo megaloys kopoys kai qysies, alla einai aytonohto kai eynohto oti otan den yparxei staqerothta sth xwra, qa yparxei kai anodos sta spreads'', dhlwse o kybernhtikos ekproswpos.\nSymfwna me ta dieqnh eidhseografika praktoreia, to enaysma gia thn ayjhsh twn ellhnikwn epitokiwn doqhke apo tis dhlwseis poy ekane to brady ths Deyteras sth Nea Yorkh o Dieyqynwn Symboylos ths Pimco, toy megalyteroy tameioy ependysewn se omologa, k. Moxament El Erian.\nO k. El Erian eipe oti h anadiarqrwsh toy ellhnikoy xreoys einai piqanh sthn epomenh trietia - me ena syntetagmeno tropo kai afoy periorisqei h metadosh twn epiptwsewn ths se alles xwres - enw proseqese oti einai pros to symferon ths Elladas, kaqws den yparxei enallaktikh lysh poy na yposxetai anaptyjh kai ayjhsh ths apasxolhshs.\nSth synexeia, yphrjan dhlwseis se analogo mhkos kymatos kai apo ton Antiproedro ths Manulife Financial Corp., enos kanadikoy ependytikoy tameioy poy diaxeirizetai 80 dis dolaria, k. Nton Rits.\nApo thn allh pleyra toy Atlantikoy, den symmerizontai tis ektimhseis twn Amerikanwn ependytwn. O Epitropos Oikonomikwn kai Nomismatikwn Ypoqesewn k. Oli Ren epanelabe, gia pollosth fora, oti den tiqetai qema anadiarqrwshs kamias xwras ths Eyrwzwnhs. Aisiodojo mhnyma esteile kai o k. Klaoys Regklingk, Dieyqynwn Symboylos toy Eyrwpaikoy Tameioy Xrhmatopistwtikhs Staqerothtas,. ``Ta xeirotera ths krishs einai pisw mas'', eipe o k. Regklingk se synedrio poy egine xqes stis Bryjelles.\nSxetikes eidhseis: Epibradynsh ths yfeshs problepei o G. Papakwnstantinoy, TtE: Oxi alloi foroi\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 16:14\nH oikonomikh diakybernhsh kai oi protaseis ths Germanias gia anaqewrhsh ths synqhkhs ths Lisabonas sxetika me tis kyrwseis se xwres poy exoyn ychla elleimmata, qa breqoyn sto trapezi ths Synodoy Koryfhs poy qa pragmatopoihqei stis Bryjelles 28 kai 29 Oktwbrioy. O prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy poy qa symmetasxei sth Synodo synanthqhke to meshmeri ths Tetarths, sto Megaro Majimoy me ton anaplhrwth prwqypoyrgo kai ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn toy Loyjemboyrgoy, Zan Aselmporn. En tw metajy, stis Bryjelles brisketai o Proedros ths ND, prokeimenoy na labei meros, sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos.\nO Antwnhs Samaras qa exei thn Pempth synanthsh me ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, Xerman Ban Rompai.\nNwritera, synanthqhke me ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos, Bil-frent Martens, ston opoio epeshmane oti h N.D sthrizei tis anagkaies diarqrwtikes allages sth xwra mas, ekfrazontas toy omws parallhla th diafwnia toy gia to meigma politikhs poy akoloyqei h Kybernhsh.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 15:27\nArneitai o prwhn proedros ths ``Siemens Hellas'' Mixalhs Xristoforakos oti dwrodokhse kommata kai politikoys sthn Ellada, opws epishs kai oti eixe filikes sxeseis me politika proswpa. Opws dhlwse o boyleyths K. Tsabaras, melos toy klimakioy ths ejetastikhs epitrophs ths ellhnikhs boylhs poy ejetase sto Monaxo ton k. Xristoforako, o prwhn isxyros andras ths Siemens isxyristhke oti ``den eixe filia me kanenan politiko, den exei dwsei dwra oyte eixe yposxeqei se kanenan politiko, kommata, oyte toy zhthqhkan tetoia dwra shmantikhs ajias''. O k. Xristoforakos arnhqhke na apanthsei se erwthseis oi opoies exoyn sxesh me th diwjh poy toy exei askhqei sthn Ellada, epikaloymenos thn idiothta toy kathgoroymenoy.\nSymfwna me plhrofories, ston k. Xristoforako eteqh apo ton paronta sthn ejetash eisaggelea Giannh Xristodoyloy to zhthma ths ajiopoihshs toy neoy nomikoy plaisioy gia th metaxeirish martyrwn, alla se mia prwth fash to apekroyse.\nSxetikh eidhsh: o''WSiemens: Shmera h kataqesh toy Xristoforakoy\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 17:06\nEnergopoieitai h symbash poy afora to mellon twn Nayphgeiwn Skaramagka kai ta programmata twn ypobryxiwn toy Polemikoy Naytikoy, kaqws oloklhrwqhkan shmera oles oi diadikasies gia to kleisimo ths symbashs opws anakoinwqhke apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 12:53\nYpo broxh pragmatopoihqhke h maqhtikh parelash sth Qessalonikh, gia thn 98h epeteio apeleyqerwshs ths polhs apo ton toyrkiko zygo, enwpion ekproswpwn ths politikhs, ekklhsiastikhs kai stratiwtikhs hgesias. Maqhtes kai maqhtries sxoleiwn ths B'baqmias Ekpaideyshs, parelasan to prwi sthn odo Tsimiskh -me afethria th Diagwnio kai termatismo sthn I. Dragoymh. Symmeteixan ena tmhma ths A'baqmias Ekpaideyshs, tmhmata shmaioforwn ths B'baqmias Ekpaideyshs kai maqhtes Gymnasiwn kai Lykeiwn apo 17 sxoleia. Thn Kybernhsh ekproswphse o anaplhrwths ypoyrgos Perifereiakhs Anaptyjhs, Swkraths Jynidhs, o opoios dhlwse oti o trihmeros eortasmos sth Qessalonikh enexei isxyroys symbolismoys gia thn polh kai oloklhrh thn Ellada.\nLigo prin apo tis 11.30 proklhqhke mikrh entash otan diadhlwtes toy SYRIZA epixeirhsan na anoijoyn pano diamartyrias. kata toy Dieqnoys Nomismatikoy Tameioy, enw meta thn oloklhrwsh ths parelashs, pragmatopoihsan poreia diamartyrias sthn odo Tsimiskh.\nNwritera to prwi, egine kataqesh stefanwn sto G' Swma Stratoy, apo maqhtes poy ekproswphsan ta sxoleia ths A'baqmias kai B' baqmias Ekpaideyshs. Stefania katateqhkan epishs sta mnhmeia twn hrwwn, se protomes kai andriantes sthn polh.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 19:23\nSe troxia kinhtopoihsewn prosanatolizontai oi omospondies twn daskalwn kai twn nhpiagwgwn (DOE) kai twn kaqhghtwn ths deyterobaqmias ekpaideyshs (OLME). Ayto prokyptei apo tis dhlwseis twn proedrwn twn dyo omospondiwn. O proedros ths DOE Dhmhtrhs Mpraths, dhlwse oti: ``yparxoyn problhmata sta sxoleia poy exoyn na kanoyn me ta leitoyrgika toys ejoda, alla kai me thn epimorfwsh twn ekpaideytikwn kai qewroyme oti qa prepei na baloyme kai emeis mia kokkinh grammh oson afora stis apodoxes mas''. Shmeiwse de, pws h omospondia prosanatolizetai se 24wrh apergia sto trito dekahmero toy Noembrioy, gia ta proanaferomena problhmata, alla kai to neo misqologio.\nApo thn pleyra ths h OLME, opws dhlwse o proedros ths D. Pepes, ektos apo th symmetoxh sthn apergia ths stis 15hs Dekembrioy (GSEE - ADEDY), qa eishghqei thn ejoysiodothsh toy D.S. ths OLME na prokhryjei 24wrh apergia otan doqei sxedio misqologioy h ejaggelqoyn me opoiodhpote tropo perikopes stis mhniaies apodoxes twn kaqhghtwn kai amesws meta genikes syneleyseis gia klimakwsh twn kinhtopoihsewn. To xronodiagramma twn diadikasiwn ths OLME problepei Genikes Syneleyseis twn kaqhghtwn mexri tis 19 Noembrioy kai akoloyqws th syneleysh twn proedrwn twn ELME. Se syndyasmo me tis diadikasies aytes, h OLME qa proxwrhsei se kampania enhmerwshs toy kladoy gia tis epiptwseis apo thn efarmogh twn metrwn poy aporreoyn apo to epikairopoihmeno mnhmonio kai thn efarmogh toy misqologioy.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 19:09\nMe kekthmenh taxythta mphkan sthn telikh eyqeia oi ypochfioi twn aytodioikhtikwn eklogwn, diekdikwntas apo toys polites thn yperchfish twn syndyasmwn toys, enteinontas parallhla toys ryqmoys twn periodeiwn toys.\nThn aisiodojia toy gia th symmetoxh toy sto deytero gyro twn perifereiakwn eklogwn, ejefrase o ypochfios perifereiarxhs Attikhs Basilhs Kikilias se synanthsh poy eixe me dhmosiografoys. Symfwna me ektimhseis stelexwn ths ND, an o k. Kikilias sygkentrwsei ston prwto gyro apo 22% qa perasei sto deytero gyro. Parallhla o k. Kikilias afhse aixmes gia tis dhmoskophseis poy ton emfanizoyn sthn trith qesh.\nOpws anakoinwqhke, apo th ``Laikh Syspeirwsh'', o ypochfios perifereiarxhs Attikhs Qanashs Pafilhs, thn Paraskeyh to prwi, stis 9pm, qa episkefqei th Nomarxia Aqhnwn (sth Lewforo Syggroy) kai qa milhsei se sygkentrwsh ergazomenwn gia to programma toy syndyasmoy toy kai ``ta antilaika metra poy qa parei h kybernhsh meta tis aytodioikhtikes ekloges, se periptwsh poy den katachfistoyn oi ypochfioi ths''.\nTo Sabbato to prwi, stis 11.30, qa periodeysei sta katasthmata poy briskontai sthn plateia Agias Marinas, sthn Anqoypolh, sto Peristeri kai qa milhsei se sygkentrwsh sto ``Koytoyki ths Basws'', sthn plateia Anqoypolhs.\nThn Kyriakh to apogeyma, stis 6.30, qa milhsei se sygkentrwsh gynaikwn gia tis dhmotikes kai perifereiakes ekloges, sthn Jylotexnia Peristerioy (Kwsth Palama kai Paraskeyopoyloy).\nMilwntas sto E' Diamerisma Peiraia o ypochfios Dhmarxos Giannhs Mixas, anaferqhke sthn: ``kaqysterhsh epektashs ths grammhs toy Metro apo to Xaidari pros ton Peiraia. Symfwna me th xarajh problepetai h dhmioyrgia staqmoy sthn Aitwlikoy gegonos poy qa dwsei anases, kykloforiakh aposymforhsh kai elafrynsh apo thn atmosfairikh rypansh. Sthn anagkh ayjhshs twn Paidikwn Staqmwn ws ena poly shmantiko metro sthrijhs ths ellhnikhs oikogeneias. Sto E' Diamerisma oi tesseris Paidikoi Staqmoi poy leitoyrgoyn den eparkoyn na kalycoyn tis ayjhmenes anagkes Ston kaqarismo kai thn ajiopoihsh toy xwroy twn mh xrhsimopoioymenwn pia grammwn toy OSE poy exoyn ginei shmeio aporrichs aporrimmatwn Sthn anabaqmish toy Qemistokleioy Gymnasthrioy poy apotelei enan apo toys elaxistoys xwroys aqlhshs gia toys neoys kai tis nees ths perioxhs''.\nSe kafe ths polhs toy Peiraia breqhke o ypochfios Dhmarxos Basilhs Mixaloliakos, syzhtwntas me neoys ths polhs. Qemata opws h rypansh kai to kykloforiako, enw eqijan kai to qema ths elleichs eleyqerwn xwrwn, oi ependyseis poy exoyn ginei to teleytaio diasthma sto limani toy Peiraia, breqhkan sto epikentro ths syzhthshs. O k. Mixaloliakos xarakthrise aparaithth thn synergasia metajy Dhmoy kai Idiwtikoy Tomea wste na proxwrhsoyn ta megala erga poy exei anagkh o Peiraias, enw tonise pws qa analabei sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies gia thn katapolemhsh ths anergias poy mastizei thn peiraiwtikh neolaia.\nEpishs ston Peiraia, me anakoinwsh ths h ``Aristerh antikapitalistikh kinhsh - Antarsia sto limani'', me ypochfio Dhmarxo to Qanash Diabolakh, anaferei oti: ``Th Deytera 26/10 o epikefalhs, melh kai ypochfioi ths Kinhshs episkefthkan to Dhmarxeio toy Peiraia kai milhsan me toys ypallhloys toy Dhmoy. Oi ergazomenoi edeijan megalo endiaferon gia tis qeseis ths Kinhshs. Leitoyrgei mplogk ths kinhshs sth dieyqynsh: antarsiastolimani.blogspot.com Sthqhke kai leitoyrgei to kentriko proeklogiko periptero sthn plateia Korah. Xqes, prwth mera ths leitoyrgias toy dekades Peiraiwtes to episkefthkan kai syzhthsan me ta melh ths kinhshs. Ayrio Pempth 28/10 qa ginei mazikh ejormhsh kai moirasma ylikoy kata th diarkeia ths parelashs''.\nTo programma ths paroysiase to brady ths Tetarths h dhmotikh paratajh ``Ektos Sxedioy'', sthn aiqoysa ekdhlwsewn toy KEP Neas Iwnias.\nO proedros ths K.O. toy SYRIZA, Alejhs Tsipras qa pragmatopoihsei periodeia sth N. Iwnia kai th N. Filadelfeia, thn Pempth 28/10. Analytika to programma perilambanei: 11:00_Periodeia sth N. Iwnia (Plateia Mhteras) Synanthsh me ton ypochfio Dhmarxo Hraklh Gkotsh, epikefalhs ths anejarthths kinhshs ``Enothta gia thn N. Iwnia'' (Plateia Mhteras). 13:00_Periodeia sth N. Filadelfeia. Episkech sto eklogiko kentro ths kinhshs ``Dynamh Politwn'' kai synanthsh me ton ypochfio Dhmarxo Qanash Mallio, epikefalhs ths kinhshs.\nPhgh: APE Eidhsh: 44667\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 19:21\nEreyna ga parabiash ths idiwtikhs zwhs anoije h eisaggelia ths Rwmhs sxetika me th syllogh proswpikwn dedomenwn mesw fwtografiwn apo thn yphresia Street View ths Google.\nAyth h ereyna jekinhse apo ton italiko organismo poy einai epifortismenos me thn prostasia ths idiwtikhs zwhs, symfwna me ton ekproswpo ths Google sthn Italia.\nO organismos, o opoios eixe zhthsei sto telos toy Septembrioy apo thn Google na stamathsei thn epejergasia aytwn twn stoixeiwn kai na mhn ta diagracei, wste na mporoyn na entopistoyn "endexomenes poinikes paratypies".\nApo thn pleyra ths, h amerikanikh etaireia zhthse syggnwmh me shmerinh anakoinwsh ths gia thn kata laqos syllogh twn en logw stoixeiwn kai diabebaiwse oti einai proqymh na synergastei me th dikaiosynh.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 18:27\nTo plhrwma toy ploioy - ergostasioy epejergasias cariwn, sto opoio shmeiwqhke pyrkagia sta anoikta ths notiodytikhs akths ths Bretanias, eqese ypo elegxo tis floges kai ta 111 melh toy einai asfalh, anakoinwse shmera h bretanikh Aktofylakh.\nTo ploio - ergostasio Athena, to opoio ekmetalleyetai h etaireia Thor poy exei thn edra ths sta nhsia Feroes, kateyqynetai pros th Bretania afoy dexqhke bohqeia apo alla ploia, prosqese h Aktofylakh.\nEna emporiko ploio dieswse 98 melh toy plhrwmatos apo swsibies lemboys enw 13 emeinan panw sto Athena gia na sbhsoyn thn pyrkagia, h opoia jespase kaqws to skafos briskotan perissotera apo 480 xlm. sta anoikta ths notiodytikhs akths ths Agglias. Den yparxoyn plhrofories gia traymatismoys.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 17:43\nMeta thn oloklhrwsh ths diadikasias elegxwn apo ton OPEKEPE kai thn apostolh toy sxetikoy arxeioy plhrwmhs sthn ATE, trapeza poy synergazetai o Organismos Plhrwmwn, arxizei shmera h diadikasia pistwshs twn logariasmwn twn dikaioyxwn. Ta sxetika posa, poy synolika anerxontai se peripoy 1 dis. eyrw, qa einai diaqesima apo ayrio to prwi.\nGia dieykolynsh ths enhmerwshs twn dikaioyxwn, o OPEKEPE, symfwna me osa anakoinwse o ypoyrgos Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn, k. Kwstas Skandalidhs, qetei sth diaqesh twn dikaioyxwn apo shmera thn nea diadiktyakh yphresia enhmerwshs twn agrotwn gia tis plhrwmes, poy pragmatopoiei o Organismos. Oi agrotes mporoyn apla me thn eisagwgh toy AFM toys sth sxetikh efarmogh sthn istoselida toy OPEKEPE (www.opekepe.gr) na enhmerwnontai gia to synolo twn plhrwmwn, poy pragmatopoiei o OPEKEPE.\nEidika, gia thn prokatabolh (50%) ths Eniaias Enisxyshs 2010, h yphresia enhmerwnei toys dikaioyxoys toso gia to poso ths prokatabolhs Eniaias Enisxyshs 2010, poy toys kataballete oso kai gia toys logoys endexomenhs mh katabolhs.\nO ypoyrgos Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn dhlwse "me synepeia, throyme to programma plhrwmwn twn agrotwn, poy ejaggeilame, se mia dyskolh oikonomika periodo. Gia thn ejyphrethsh kai enhmerwsh twn agrotwn, kaname, epishs, ena prwto xeiropiasto bhma kai se ayth thn kateyqynsh qa synexisoyme".\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 15:28\nPeripoy ena sta pente spondylwta zwa kai fyta ths Ghs apeileitai me afanismo, symfwna me thn megalyterh ews twra episthmonikh ereyna, poy pragmatopoihqhke apo 174 ereynhtes ana ton kosmo kai erxetai na anadeijei, gia mia akomh fora, thn epeigoysa anagkh na lhfqoyn metra prostasias ths biopoikilothtas toy planhth mas. To zhthma einai epikairo, kaqws hdh diejagetai sth Nagkogia ths Iapwnias h synodos koryfhs 200 xwrwn, ypo thn aigida toy OHE, me thn elpida oti oi kybernhseis, ayth th fora, qa mporesoyn na qesoyn ews to 2020 neoys realistikoys kai epiteyjimoys stoxoys gia thn prostasia twn eidwn kai twn oikosysthmatwn, poy kindyneyoyn apo tis anqrwpogeneis drasthriothtes, thn molynsh kai thn klimatikh allagh.\nH nea meleth, poy dhmosieythke sto periodiko "Science", anelyse dedomena apo 25.000 eidh qhlastikwn, poyliwn, amfibiwn, erpetwn kai cariwn kai epanajiologhse thn katastash twn eidwn poy perilambanontai sthn ``kokkinh lista'' ths Dieqnoys Enwshs gia thn Prostasia ths Fyshs (IUCN). H IUCN tonise oti h Gh apeileitai me ton ekto maziko afanismo sthn istoria ths, meta ton pempto poy, prin apo 65 ekat. xronia, ejafanise toys deinosayroys.\nOi episthmones symperanan oti kata meso oro 50 eidh metakinoyntai pio konta sthn ejafanish kaqe xrono, logw epektashs twn anqrwpinwn drasthriothtwn (gewrgia, ylotomia, kynhgi-alieia k.a.), poy prokaloyn katastrofh twn fysikwn endiaithmatwn twn zwwn, alla kai ejaitias toy ejeliktikoy antagwnismoy apo alla eidh-epidromeis. Apo thn allh pantws, h meleth diapistwse oti oi mexri twra prospaqeies prostasias apodidoyn, kaqws 64 eidh exoyn beltiwsei thn katastash toys.\nSymfwna me tis nees ektimhseis, oi sobaroteres apwleies apo apoch biopoikilothtas lambanoyn xwra sth Notioanatolikh Asia. Anamesa sta eidh, ta amfibia antimetwpizoyn analogika ton megalytero kindyno (41%) kai ta poylia ton mikrotero (13%). O epifanhs biologos-oikologos toy panepisthmioy Xarbarnt Entoyarnt O.Goyilson ekroyse ton kwdwna toy kindynoy oti ``h raxokokalia ths biopoikilothtas yposkaptetai''.\nMia jexwristh meleth, poy dhmosieythke sto idio episthmoniko periodiko, symperainei oti h pagkosmia biopoikilothta qa synexisei na meiwnetai kata ton trexonta aiwna, alla, me tis katallhles politikes, o ryqmos twn apwleiwn mporei na epibradynqei. Symfwna me ton ypeyqyno ths ereynas Pol Lintlei, toy panepisthmioy Paris-Sud toy Parisioy, tyxon aprajia qa synepagetai katastrofikh apwleia ths biopoikilothtas.\nEjalloy, sto plaisio toy Dieqnoys Etoys Biopoikilothtas, opws exei khryxqei to 2010, to periodiko "Philosophical Transactions of Royal Society" ths Basilikhs Etairias episthmwn ths Bretanias, afierwse eidiko teyxos me 16 episthmonika arqra sto zhthma. Opws, metajy allwn, tonizetai, oi episthmones den exoyn akoma plhrh kai safh eikona gia tis apwleies eidwn sth fysh kai ypopteyontai oti h katastash einai akoma xeiroterh sthn pragmatikothta, jepernwntas se megeqos otidhpote analogo exei prokycei apo thn istoria twn apoliqwmatwn toy planhth mas sxetika me toys prohgoymenoys mazikoys afanismoys eidwn.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 17:22\nH ygieinh diatrofh, h apoxh apo to kapnisma kai to alkool kai h swmatikh askhsh mporoyn na prolaboyn sxedon to ena tetarto twn 1,2 ekatommyriwn kroysmatwn karkinoy toy paxeos enteroy poy diagignwskontai kaqe xrono, anakoinwsan episthmones. Ereynhtes apo th Dania diapistwsan oti meta tis systaseis gia swmatikh drasthriothta, elegxo twn diastasewn ths perifereias ths meshs, diakoph toy kapnismatos, periorismo ths katanalwshs alkool kai swsth diatrofh, meiwqhke kata 23% o kindynos emfanishs karkinoy toy paxeos enteroy.\n``H meleth mas apokalyptei to xrhsimo mhnyma gia th dhmosia ygeia oti akoma kai oi deytereyoyses allages ston tropo zwhs mporei na meiwnoyn shmantika ton kindyno gia karkino toy paxeos enteroy'', dhlwse h epikefalhs ths meleths, An Tgionelant toy Institoytoy Karkinikhs Epidhmiologias sto Antikarkiniko Institoyto ths Danias.\nO karkinos toy paxeos enteroy eyqynetai gia peripoy miso ekatommyrio qanatoys to xrono se pagkosmio epipedo.\nTa farmaka Xeloda ths Roche kai to Eloxatine ths Sanofi-Aventis sygkatalegontai sta pleon endedeigmena gia th qerapeia ths nosoy, me thn opoia diagnwsthkan 1,23 ekatommyria anqrwpoi to 2008, symfwna me thn Dieqnh Yphresia gia thn Ereyna toy Karkinoy.\nH Tgionelant kai oi synergates ths melethsan ta proswpika stoixeia 55.487 andrwn kai gynaikwn, hlikias 50 me 64 etwn, oi opoioi sto parelqon den eixan diagnwstei me karkino kai parakoloyqhsan thn poreia toys gia peripoy deka xronia.\nOi eqelontes apanthsan se erwthmatologia me qema tis synhqeies ths zwhs toys kai tis diatrofikes toys synhqeies kai oi ereynhtes dhmioyrghsan enan deikth ygioys diabiwshs xrhsimopoiwntas systaseis gia thn ygeia apo ton Pagkosmio Organismo Ygeias (POY), to Pagkosmio Tameio Ereynas gia ton Karkino kai th Skandinabikh Epitroph Diatrofikwn Systasewn.\nOi synhqeies aytes perilambanoyn thn apoxh apo to kapnisma, thn kaqhmerinh swmatikh drasthriothta gia toylaxiston 30 lepta, ton periorismo toy ariqmoy twn alkooloyxwn potwn se epta thn ebdomada gia tis gynaikes kai se 14 gia toys andres, tis diastaseis ths perifereias ths meshs mexri 88 ekatosta gia tis gynaikes kai 102 gia toys andres kai thn ygieinh diatrofh.\nTa apotelesmata toys dhmosieythkan sthn Bretanikh Iatrikh Epiqewrhsh kai edeijan oti sth diarkeia ths periodoy parakoloyqhshs 678 anqrwpoi diagnwsthkan me karkino toy paxeos enteroy.\nMeta thn ejetash toy tropoy me ton opoio oi eqelontes antepejhlqan stis pente symboyles gia tis kaqhmerines toys synhqeies, oi ereynhtes ypologisan oti, an oloi toys eixan akoloyqhsei mia systash, sxedon to 13% twn kroysmatwn aytoy toy typoy karkinoy qa eixan prolhfqei. An oloi toys eixan akoloyqhsei kai tis pente, qa eixe apofeyxqei to 23% twn peristatikwn.\nProhgoymenes ereynes entopisan 14 gonidiakes metallajeis, h kaqemia ek twn opoiwn ayjanei ton kindyno anaptyjhs karkinoy toy paxeos enteroy kata 1,5 ews 2 fores kai, symfwna me mia meleth poy dhmosieythke ton perasmeno mhna, mia mono metallajh sto genetiko kwdika enos anqrwpoy mporei na odhghsei sthn emfanish ths nosoy.\nAlla oi eidikoi yposthrizoyn oti, me th swsth diatrofh kai ton ygieino tropo zwhs, meiwnetai perissotero o kindynos prosbolhs apo th noso.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 16:28\nH Rwsia skopeyei na yioqethsei ena systhma synagermoy me xrwmatiko kwdika, sto plaisio twn metrwn antimetwpishs twn ayjhmenwn tromokratikwn apeilwn, anakoinwse shmera, Tetarth, kybernhtikos symboylos toy rwsikoy antitromokratikoy symboylioy.\nTo proteinomeno systhma qa exei tria epipeda proeidopoihshs: mple gia ayjhmeno kindyno, kitrino gia ychlo kai kokkino gia amesh apeilh, dhlwse o basikos symboylos toy antitromokratikoy symboylioy ths Rwsias Antrei Przezntomski, se synenteyjh toy poy dhmosieyetai shmera sthn efhmerida Rossiskaya Gazeta.\n"H hgesia ths kybernhshs edwse entolh gia th dhmioyrgia enos apotelesmatikoteroy systhmatos asfaleias kai zhthse thn antistoixh drash apo ta organa epibolhs toy nomoy, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn oi nees ayjanomenes apeiles", dhlwse o Antrei Przezntomski.\n"[Prokeitai gia] th dhmioyrgia enos systhmatos sto plaisio toy opoioy oi tromokrates qa lambanoyn mia apotelesmatikh apanthsh, oxi mono apo thn kybernhsh, alla kai apo organwmenoys, enwmenoys polites", symplhrwse o eidikos.\nTo systhma proeidopoihshs poy efarmozetai hdh stis Hnwmenes Politeies, meta to xtyphma stoys Didymoys Pyrgoys ton Septembrio toy 2001, kai se merikes eyrwpaikes xwres, exei xarakthristei ws asafes apo toys epikrites toy, oi opoioi exoyn epishmanei kai th dynatothta xrhsimopoihshs toy ws ergaleio politikhs xeiragwghshs.\nTo xrwmatiko systhma proeidopoihshs poy qa efarmosei h Rwsia den prokeitai na ephreasei tis eleyqeries twn politwn, dhlwse o k. Przezntomski, ejhgwntas oti qa ginontai systaseis stoys polites na apofeygoyn polysyxnasta merh h na apofeygoyn thn epafh me antikeimena poy qa mporoysan na xrhsimopoihqoyn ws kryptes ekrhktikwn.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 16:16\n``Sto kentro ths Aqhnas parabiazontai ola ta dikaiwmata. Apo to dikaiwma na kineitai kaneis sthn polh xwris xwrikoys kai xronikoys periorismoys, mexri to dikaiwma sthn ergasia, sthn idiokthsia kai sthn ajioprepeia. Xreiazetai mia dhmokratikh apanthsh sthn krish, poy qa sthrizetai sth diasfalish olwn twn dikaiwmatwn, kai gia oloys''. Ayta metajy allwn tonise shmera to apogeyma o ypochfios dhmarxos Aqhnaiwn Giwrgos Kaminhs se ekdhlwsh poy diorganwqhke apo kinhseis syllogwn kai energwn politwn gia th diaswsh toy Istorikoy Kentroy.\nO k. Kaminhs paroysiase analytika tis protaseis toy syndyasmoy ``dikaiwma sthn polh'' gia to metanasteytiko, gia thn astikh kai oikonomikh anaptyjh toy Istorikoy Kentroy kai gia thn egklhmatikothta.\nDen einai dynaton enas Dhmos na krybetai pisw apo tis armodiothtes twn diaforwn qesmwn kai na mhn jerei poioi anqrwpoi zoyn sthn epikrateia toy.\nToys anqrwpoys aytoys poy zoyn se kaqestws afaneias, qa toys bgaloyme sthn epifaneia, sto fws. Den einai aplws qema anqrwpismoy h filanqrwpias, einai qema realismoy.\nTon Martio toy 2010, dyo molis mhnes meta thn analhch twn kaqhkontwn ths neas dhmotikhs arxhs, h Eqnikh Statistikh Yphresia ths Elladas diorganwnei thn eqnikh apografh. Opws kai prin deka xronia, opoy kategrafhsan oloi osoi zoysan sthn Ellada, nomima h paranoma, etsi kai twra einai mia monadikh eykairia. Na bgaloyme toys anqrwpoys aytoys apo ta ypogeia kai na toys taktopoihsoyme proswrina mexri na epistrecoyn stis patrides toys h na pane se alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikes Enwshs, opws kai oi perissoteroi epiqymoyn.\nProkeitai gia xwres poy kalyptontai apo th symfwnia ``Doyblino 2'', poy kanei thn Ellada ena apoqethrio ths paranomhs metanasteyshs. Zhtoyme thn tropopoihsh ths.\nMe enan tetoio aplo mhxanismo katagrafhs, qa dwsoyme th dynatothta se aytoys toys anqrwpoys:\nNa steiloyn ta paidia toys sto sxoleio, anti na periferontai sta fanaria, qymata apanqrwphs ekmetalleyshs\nNa antimetwpisoyn stoixeiwdh problhmata ygeias kai ygieinhs, poy syndeontai kai me th diasfalish ths dhmosias ygeias.\nNa apolaysoyn mia stoixeiwdh asfalistikh kalych gia na mporesoyn na ergastoyn, kaqws h apolyth anexeia trofodotei thn parabatikothta. Me metra opws ayta, epitygxanoyme kati ejairetika shmantiko: ton diaxwrismo metanasteyshs kai egklhmatikothtas.\nAntimetwpish ths egklhmatikothtas\nMetanasteysh kai egklhmatikothta einai diaforetika fainomena, estw kai an, polles fores, synyparxoyn ws problhmata. Einai allhs tajews paranomia h xwris xartia eisodos kai paramonh sthn Ellada, kai einai allhs tajews to egklhma ths mastropeias, ths laqremporias, ths diakinhshs narkwtikwn.\nQa eimaste ameiliktoi. Oi egklhmatikes drasthriothtes prepei na ejarqrwqoyn. Einai armodiothta ths ELAS, alla o Dhmos exei rolo na paijei.\nTo epikairopoihmeno sxedio drashs sthn Aqhna poy exei ekponhsei to Ypoyrgeio Prostasias toy Polith, prepei na efarmostei ayrio to prwi, se synergasia me ton Dhmo. Kamia metaqesh, kamia dikaiologia. H nea dhmotikh arxh qa diekdikhsei ta dikaiwmata twn politwn kai qa analabei prwtoboylies ekei opoy to kratos oligwrei.\nDen mporei h kentrikh dioikhsh na ekdidei eisithria apo oles tis perioxes ths Elladas me proorismo thn Aqhna, eisithria one way, metaqetontas edw olo to metanasteytiko problhma ths xwras.\nMia diaforetikh politikh asyloy\nMhn jexname oti o ariqmos twn metanastwn xwris xartia qa mporoyse na einai poly mikroteros kai eykolotera diaxeirisimos, an eixame akoloyqhsei mia diaforetikh politikh asyloy. Polloi apo toys metanastes xwris xartia dikaioyntai asylo, alla ayto xorhgeitai se pososto katw toy 1%.\nYpo thn idiothta toy Synhgoroy toy Polith exw symbalei me ton pio dhmioyrgiko tropo prokeimenoy na ginoyn oi aparaithtes nomoqetikes kai dioikhtikes allages.\nH dhmotikh astynomia den mporei na leitoyrgei me mono endiaferon na ekdidei klhseis. Yparxei, gia na diasfalizei thn aproskopth prosbash twn politwn stoys dhmosioys xwroys ths polhs.\nKai monh h paroysia ths qa mporoyse na enisxysei to aisqhma asfaleias twn politwn. Meikta klimakia me thn Ellhnikh Astynomia.\nNa diekdikhsoyme kai na energopoihsoyme nees armodiothtes sta qemata diwjhs toy paraemporioy, ths hxorypanshs, ths thrhshs twn oriwn taxythtas sthn polh, klp.\nAs skeftoyme diaforetika kai gia to paraemporio. Alliws, tipote den qa allajei. Oi astynomikoi qa emfanizontai sth gwnia, oi planodioi pwlhtes qa trexoyn me to mpogalaki toys ston wmo, oi astynomikoi qa feygoyn, ki ekeinoi qa epanerxontai.\nNa dhmioyrghsoyme agores, opoy qa pwloyntai nomima proionta h kataskeyasmena apo toys pwlhtes toys. Agores polyxrwmes, polyeqnikes, opoy qa entaxqoyn, nomima pia ergazomenoi, kai polloi apo toys metanastes poy emplekontai shmera sto paraemporio. Kai poy, fysika, qa plhrwnoyn twra foroys.\nSe alles eyrwpaikes poleis, tetoies agores briskontai stoys toyristikoys odhgoys, apoteloyn atrajion ths polhs, sygkentrwnoyn xiliades episkeptes, symballoyn sthn topikh oikonomia. Xreiazomaste idees poy qa apantoyn, taytoxrona, se perissotera problhmata. Kai sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh, kai sthn omalh entajh twn metanastwn, kai sthn eirhnikh symbiwsh twn anqrwpwn''.\nAPE Eidhsh: 44655\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 19:07\nNea topoqethsh sto zhthma ths katallhlothtas toy neroy ths Korinqoy eixame shmera apo ton boyleyth k.A.Manwlakh.O k.Manwlakhs sthn oysia apanta sthn kinhsh toy k. Kollia na kataqesei erwthsh sthn Boylh gia to qema toy Neroy ths Korinqoy.Sygkekrimena o k.Manwlakhs se grapth toy dhlwsh anaferei: `` Se antiqesh me thn apoch toy synadelfoy, egw empisteyomai thn poiothta toy neroy ths Korinqoy kai pinw apo ayto edw kai enamisi xrono, kaqhmerina. To nero poy ftanei stis bryses twn katoikwn ths Korinqoy qewreitai katallhlo apo oles tis yphresies, oi opoies to hlegjan. Akoma kai an ypoqesoyme oti mporei na yphrxan orismena problhmata sthn perioxh twn phgwn ths Stymfalias, apo opoy proerxetai to nero, h katallhlothta toy paramenei adiamfisbhthth, kaqws prin ftasei sta spitia twn Korinqiwn ypokeitai se oles tis aparaithtes epejergasies. Qewrw oti ena toso sobaro zhthma, poy exei na kanei me thn ygeia twn katoikwn ths Korinqoy, den qa prepei na xrhsimopoieitai pros ejyphrethsh twn opoiwn proeklogikwn skopimothtwn'',katalhgei h anakoinwsh Manwlakh.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 18:46\nTo neotero melos ths Ellhnotoyrkikhs Orxhstras Newn apotelei o Qanashs Natshs apo thn Kozanh poy paizei bioli kai prosfata ekleise ta 14 toy xronia. O Qanashs Natshs einai pleon melos enos moysikoy synoloy poy proekyce apo th synenwsh ths Ellhnikhs Orxhstras Newn kai ths Orxhstras Newn toy Panepisthmioy Mpilkent ths Toyrkias.\nTon nearo moysiko anakalyce o dieyqynths ths Ellhnikhs Orxhstras Newn, Anastasios Symewnidhs, stis arxes toy 2010, otan anazhtoyse nea talenta gia na symplhrwsoyn ton ariqmo twn moysikwn, hlikias 14 ews 27 etwn. O k. Symewnidhs poy kai idios katagetai apo thn perioxh, emaqe gia ton Qanash Natsh, o opoios mexri ekeinh th stigmh eixe kerdisei to prwto brabeio biolioy se panellhnio diagwnismo sth Qessalonikh kai lambane ypotrofia apo to Dhmotiko Wdeio Kozanhs, enw diakriqhke kai se diagwnismo toy Megaroy Moysikhs Aqhnwn sto plaisio toy programmatos ``Drash ektos edras''. ERA Kozanhs: Syntajh Despoina Amarantidoy\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 18:42\nOi Asikides apo thn Ispania, oi Perax Antom(kokkino loyloydi) apo to Israhl kai o Atilio Noytsera apo thn Italia qa paroysiasoyn Club ta ellhnofwna tragoydia toys, thn Paraskeyh 29 Oktwbrh stis 9:30 to brady sto Gefyra, sto plaisio toy 1oy Ellhnofwnoy festibal poy diorganwnei o Dhmos Kozanhs me thn oloklhrwsh toy 5oy festibal newn dhmioyrgwn tragoydioy Kozanhs.\nShmera to brady qa anakoinwqei kai qa brabeyqei kai o nikhths toy 5oy Festibal Newn Dhmioyrgwn Tragoydioy Kozanhs, to epaqlo toy opoioy einai 3000. eyrw, Ta moysika sxhmata poy diagwnisthkan kai anamenetai o nikhths metajy aytwn einai, Filippos Giannakhs & Blues Trouble - Sanjuro, Alkh - Sofia & Salata band, Kalinka - Pergamonto, GRAND Profil - Klain Main\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 18:40\nH Apodoxh twn orwn gia th lhch tokoxrewlytikoy daneioy apo to Tameio Parakataqhkwn kai Daneiwn posoy 498.000 eyrw gia thn ejoflhsh lhjiproqesmwn h mh ofeilwn toy Dhmoy qa einai to monadiko qema ths ektakths synedriashs toy Dhmotikoy Symboylioy Siatistas. H synedriash qa pragmatopoihqei thn Paraskeyh 29 Oktwbrioy stis 12 to meshmeri sto Dhmotiko Katasthma Siatistas.\nSymfwna me anakoinwsh toy Dhmoy Siatistas o logos toy katepeigontos egkeitai sthn egkairh apostolh twn stoixeiwn kai dikaiologhtikwn poy zhtoyntai apo to Tameio Parakataqhkwn , gia thn ektamieysh.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 18:37\nTo shmantiko ergo ths ``Egkatastashs Epejergasias Lymatwn'' toy oikismoy Aianhs, entaxqhke sto E.P. ``Periballon kai Aeiforos Anaptyjh 2007 - 2013'' prosfata me apofash toy Genikoy Grammatea toy YPEKA. Symfwna me anakoinwsh toy Dhmoy Aianhs o biologikos kaqarismos qa ginei sthn perioxh Ah Markos , se apostash dyo xiliometrwn apo ta oria toy oikismoy th Aianhs kai notioanatolika ayths, se dhmotikh ektash poy agorasthke to 2008.\nTo ergo, poy einai proypologismoy 2.485.272,52b� kai xrhmatodoteitai kata 100% apo to tameio Synoxhs , qa ylopoihsoyn o Dhmos Aianhs kai h Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh Kozanhs kai anamenetai na oloklhrwqei ews to 2015.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 18:10\nSe kinhtopoihsh briskontai apo to meshmeri ths Tetarths omades diaswshs gia ton entopismo enos 48xronoy Italoy, ta ixnh toy opoioy xaqhkan sthn perioxh toy Pteleoy. O italos, mazi me alloys tesseris sympatriwtes toy briskontan ston Pteleo edw kai ena 15nqhmero. Opws egine gnwsto poyloysan kyriws gewrgika mhxanhmata. Ta ixnh toy italoy xaqhkan apo tis 19 Oktwbrioy, wstoso kaneis mexri xqes den anefere to peristatiko. To meshmeri ths Tetarths zhthqhke h syndromh ths EMAK gia thn anazhthsh toy italoy.\nPyrosbestes ths eidikhs omadas, mazi me astynomikoys kai katoikoys ths perioxhs, alla kai eqelontes, arxisan thn anazhthsh toy agnooymenoy. Opws egine gnwsto entopisqhke to aytokinhto toy 48xronoy, alla apo thn ereyna poy egine se ayto den breqhkan stoixeia poy na mporoyn na kateyqynoyn thn ereyna. To aytokinhto breqhke konta ston Pteleo kai se shmeio opoy oi martyries feroyn ton italo na kinoyntan prin apo 10 hmeres kai na prospaqei na poylhsei ta proionta toy. Oi omades twn diaswstwn ereynoysan thn perioxh toy Pteleoy kai se megalh ektash apo to shmeio poy breqhke to aytokinhto toy agnooymenoy. H ereyna diejagontan ews arga to brady xwris apotelesma, enw anamenetai na synexistoyn thn Pempth. Ajizei wstoso na epishmanqei to megalo xroniko diasthma poy mesolabhse apo thn teleytaia fora poy eqeaqh.\nSyntakths: Toyla Kekatoy\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 17:53\nSthn teleytaia eyqeia briskontai kommata kai paratajeis en ocei twn eklogwn ths 7hs Noembrh. Sthn Kerkyra shmera o Alejhs Tsipras, to Sabbato o Fwths Koybelhs.\nThn Kerkyra qa episkefqei to Sabbato o proedros ths Dhmokratikhs Aristeras Fwths Koybelhs o opoios to Sabbato stis 6:00 to apogeyma sto Emporiko Epimelhthrio qa pragmatopoihsei omilia gia tis aytodioikhtikes ekloges.\nAyrio stis 3 to meshmeri sthn Ionio Boylh qa ginei h epishmh paroysiash toy chfodeltioy toy Hlia Mperiatoy gia thn perifereia Ioniwn Nhswn. Shmera to brady o kos Mperiatos qa pragmatopoihsei omilia sth Leykimmh.\nShmera to apogeyma antiproswpeies ths ``LAIKHS SYPEIRWSHS'' me epikefalhs ton ypochfio Perifereiarxh Ioniwn Nhswn Qodwro Goylh kai ton ypochfio dhmarxo ths Kerkyras, Mpamph Xaralampoys qa periodeysoyn se xwria toy Dhmoy Meliteiewn.\nToys Pajoys episkefqhke xqes o ypochfios Perifereiarxhs Swthrhs Blaxos o opoios eixe synanthsh me ton Dhmarxo Pajwn Spyro Mpogdano kai toys antidhmarxoys me toys opoioys syzhthsan qemata poy apasxoloyn to nhsi.\nTo synolo twn ypochfiwn poy sygkrotoyn to chfodeltio toy Giannh Trepeklh gia to Dhmo ths Kerkyras doqhke xqes sth dhmosiothta.\nGia wmo tromokratiko ekbiasmo sto lao kathgorei ton prwqypoyrgo sthn synenteyjh poy edwse diakanalika, h Laikh Syspeirwsh se anakoinwsh ths kai kalei to lao, stis 7 Noembrh na chfisei me krithrio tis xwmateres, to katastrofiko all inclusive, ta aiolika parka, thn prostasia toy periballontos, thn katastash stis yphresies ygeias, ta sobara problhmata sto xwro ths paideias mexri tis ejelijeis poy aforoyn thn syndiaxeirish toy Aigaioy apo to NATO.\nO epikefalhs ths paratajhs ``Eptanhsiakh Anagennhsh'' Giwrgos Kaloydhs, shmera Tetarth episkeptetai toys Pajoys kai ta xwria, Loggo, Platano, Magazia, Gaio kai Lakka. Thn Pempth qa brisketai sthn Kerkyra kai qa episkefqei to apogeyma ta xwria Sphlio, Ah-Dhmhtrh, Xlwmo kai Ah-Maqia enw thn Paraskeyh to prwi qa synanthqei me ta DS twn swmateiwn Fortoekfortwtwn, Lemboyxwn, naytergatwn kai sth synexeia qa kanei periodeia stoys dromoys ths Kerkyras. To apogeyma qa episkefqei ta xwria Giannades kai Liapades To Sabbato stis 6 m.m. to apogeyma qa milhsei se eklogikh sygkentrwsh sthn Leykimmh (kafeneio Riganh) kai thn Kyriakh stis 11.00 to prwi, sto kentro "Olympic Palace" sto Sidari.\nMe ton Kallikrath, to kostos twn yphresiwn ygeias metaferetai sto ``topiko kratos'', dhl. stoys ergazomenoys, poy qa kaloyntai na plhrwsoyn oxi mono yperogka dhmotika telh, alla kai apeyqeias ``episkech'' gia thn periqalch toys. Ayto ektima o Eleyqerios Markaths, giatros, ypochfios perifereiakos symboylos me thn "Antikapitalistikh Aristera sta Ionia" se arqro poy dhmosieyei shmera.\nSynanthseis me to synolo twn ekproswpwn twn toyristikwn forewn pragmatopoihse h ypochfia Dhmarxos, Meroph Ydraioy kai parallhla synanthqhke me ton proedro ths Filarmonikhs Etaireias enw pragmatopoihse kai periodeia sthn polh ths Kerkyras.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 15:16\nSthn Kerkyra breqhke shmera o proedros toy Synaspismoy Alejhs Tsipras, o tritos politikos arxhgos se diasthma dekapente hmerwn poy episkeptetai to nhsi meta ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton Arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs.\nO k. Tsipras, synodeyomenos apo toys k.k. Q. Galiatsato kai St. Samoilh, epikefalhs twn chfodeltiwn poy sthrizei o SYN sthn Perifereia Ioniwn Nhswn kai to Dhmo Kerkyras, perpathse se kentrikoys dromoys ths polhs kai eixe thn eykairia na milhsei me katoikoys, emporoys kai epixeirhmaties toy topoy, oi opoioi toy periegracan th dyskolh oikonomikh katastash thn opoia biwnoyn meta apo mia kakh toyristikh sezon. Idiaiteros logos egine gia thn anagkh epektashs twn ypodomwn toy nhsioy kai organwmenhs toyristikhs probolhs me parallhlh ejiswsh twn oikonomikwn eyergethmatwn poy apolambanoyn ta nhsia toy Aigaioy kai sto Ionio.\nO k. Tsipras ekane jexwristh anafora sthn elleich proswpikoy poy antimetwpizoyn oi organismoi kai ta idrymata ths Kerkyras, meta apo episkech poy pragmatopoihse sto ypokatasthma toy IKA, ta grafeia toy OAED kai to Nosokomeio.\nAnaferomenos stis dhlwseis Probopoyloy, o proedros toy SYN dhlwse: ``oses apories mas afhse o Prwqypoyrgos me thn proxqesinh toy synenteyjh, tis apanthse o Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Elladas. Mas eipe oyte ligo oyte poly oti na to mhnyma ths kalphs einai eynoiko gia thn kybernhsh, ayto poy qa akoloyqhsei einai perikopes misqwn, neo asfalistiko, katarghsh koinwnikwn yphresiwn, ayjhseis sta eisithria. Ayth h politikh exei ftasei ton kosmo sto aproxwrhto. O Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Elladas kai o Prwqypoyrgos symperifernontai o enas ws arxitektonas kai o allos ws ergolabos toy sygxronoy Kaiada, ths sygxronhs Spinalogkas. Qeloyn na bgoyme apo thn krish me ekatommyria sympolites mas sto periqwrio. Den qa toys kanoyme th xarh, to mhnyma ths kalphs qa einai hxhro kai den qa afhnei kanena periqwrio parermhneias. Stis 7 Noembrh qa amfisbhthsoyme to mnhmonio apo ta Aristera, enisxyontas tis ypochfiothtes kai toys syndyasmoys ths Rizospastikhs Aristeras kai ths synanthshs ths me to xwro toy koinwnikoy PASOK''.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 14:22\nSe idiwtikh etaireia plhroforikhs strefetai h Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh Magnhsias sthn prospaqeia ths na ekdwsei ta apotelesmata apo tis ekloges ths 7hs kai 14hs Noembrioy. Ki ayto giati to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn enekrine mono 49 ypallhloys enanti 78 toy 2009 hmeromhnia diejagwghs twn boyleytikwn eklogwn. Hdh h ypeyqynh gia th dienergeia twn eklogwn grammateas ths NAM Giola Balatsoy exei zhthsei prosfores apo etaireies plhroforikhs poy qa mporoysan n' analaboyn to sygkekrimeno ergo kaqws apaiteitai kai eidiko logismiko alla kai ejeidikeymeno proswpiko. Opws anefere an to kostos anaqeshs anerxetai sto ycos twn 50.000 eyrw-oso kostize h apozhmiwsh twn ypallhlwn poy kophkan apo to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn-h NAM qa proxwrhsei sthn anaqesh.\nEidikotera h idia anefere oti diaqetei megalh empeiria se qemata eklogikhs diadikasias, logw ths qhteias ths sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai mporei na bohqhsei sthn ekpaideysh toy proswpikoy ths etaireias plhroforikhs poy q' analabei to ergo. Parallhla qa zhthsei kai th syndromh ypallhlwn toy tmhmatos plhroforikhs poy ferontai diateqeimenoi na syndramoyn xwris apozhmiwsh.\nEpishmainetai oti sthn prosexh eklogikh anametrhsh to ypoyrgeio den dinei th dynatothta sto Nomarxh na diaqesei epipleon 20 ergazomenoys sthn eklogikh diadikasia, me apotelesma na mhn mporei na entajei sta synergeia ypallhloys toy Tmhmatos Plhroforikhs, kaqws oi eidikothtes poy twn ypallhlwn kai proistamenwn poy exoyn to dikaiwma symmetoxhs sta synergeia, symfwna me thn apofash toy ypoyrgeioy, den perilambanoyn plhroforikarioys.\nLaqh sta biblia twn eforeytikwn epitropwn\nLaqh sth selidometrhsh entopisthkan sta biblia poy qa xrhsimopoihsoyn stis ekloges oi eforeytikes epitropes kai hdh ypallhloi ths Dieyqynsh Politikwn Dikaiwmatwn ths NAM proxwroyn se diorqwseis, prokeimenoy na mhn yparjoyn problhmata. Pantws to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn exei aposteilei sth Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh Magnhsias to synolo toy eklogikoy ylikoy, opws egkyklioys, nomoqesia klp enw h NAM parelabe to symplhrwmatiko yliko gia th dienergeia twn eklogwn. Akomh, symfwna me ton dieyqynth ths Dieyqynshs Qanash Gerogiannh, h NAM parelabe 200 kalpes kai 200 paraban ta opoia dianemhqhkan stoys dhmoys pros apokatastash elleicewn. H NAM qa paralabei kai qa dianeimei sta eklogika kentra mono ta chfodeltia gia tis Perifereiakes Ekloges ki ektimatai oti mesa sto Sabbatokyriako qa exoyn paralhfqei sto synolo toys. To eklogiko yliko ypologizetai oti qa einai etoimo gia na syskeyastei mexri thn erxomenh Tetarth kai sth synexeia na stalei sta eklogika kentra.\nSyntakths: Elenh Manwlh\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 12:48\nKataigides isws plhjoyn gia mikra diasthmata kai ta Dwdekanhsa tis epomenes wres symfwna me tis probleceis ths EMY. Eidikotera sta nhsia toy anatolikoy Aigaioy kai ta Dwdekanhsa o kairos problepetai me nefwseis , broxes kai kataigides oi opoies apo to apogeyma qa einai kata topoys isxyres sta nhsia toy anatolikoy Aigaioy kai apo to brady kai sta Dwdekanhsa. Oi anemoi qa pneoyn apo noties dieyqynseis 4 me 6 kai apo to brady topika 7 mpofor.\nGia ayrio problepetai oi anemoi na pneoyn anatolikoi boreioanatolikoi 5 me 7 kai sto boreio Aigaio boreioanatolikoi 8 me 9 mpofor me ejasqenhsh to brady. Stis ypoloipes perioxes dytikoi 4 me 6 poy stadiaka qa strafoyn se boreioys kai qa enisxyqoyn sto Aigaio sta 7 kai topika sta 8 mpofor. H qermokrasia qa shmeiwsei ptwsh.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 15:00\nO Proedros ths Dhmokratias Karolos Papoylias aphyqyne ekklhsh pros ton Proedro toy Irak Tzalal Talampani na parembei ``dia thn mh ektelesh ths qanatikhs poinhs poy epeblhqh eis ton prwhn Ypoyrgo twn Ejwterikwn toy Irak k. Tarek Aziz'', anaferei anakoinwsh ths Proedrias ths Dhmokratias. Sthn anakoinwsh prostiqetai oti ``eis to mhnyma toy o k.Proedros ypogrammizei oti mia tetoia xeironomia qa ektimhqei deontws apo toys filoys toy Irak sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai dieqnws kai qa katadeijei thn diafora metajy toy dhmokratikoy parontos kai toy parelqontos ths xwras''.\nSxetikh eidhsh: Se qanato katadikasthke o Tarek Aziz\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 19:33\nO Germanos skhnoqeths Bim Benters anakoinwse shmera oti sxediazei na gyrisei mia tainia gia ta skandala paiderastias sthn Kaqolikh Ekklhsia, opoy qa kataggellei thn siwph toy klhroy, arxizontas apo ton Papa.\n"Nomizw oti einai ena qema gia mia tainia", dhlwse o skhnoqeths apo tis Bryjelles, opoy brisketai gia na symmetasxei se diadhlwsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia thn prowqhsh twn spoydwn toy kinhmatografoy.\nO skhnoqeths twn tainiwn "Paris, Texas (1984)", "Ta Ftera toy Erwta", "Buena Vista Social Club", kathgorei ton Papa Benedikto XVI epeidh den stamathse ton "faylo kyklo" ths siwphs sxetika me tis kakopoihseis twn paiderastwn stoys kolpoys ths Kaqolikhs Ekklhsias.\n"H Ekklhsia sto synolo ths, arxizontas apo ton Papa, teinei panta na kalyptei ta pragmata kai gia para poly kairo epemene oti htan kalytera na mhn pei tipota. Alla oi biastes prepei na timwrhqoyn" prosqese o 65xronos skhnoqeths.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 14:45\nSygkroyseis jespasan thn Tetarth sthn arabikh polh Oym el-Faxem toy Israhl kata th diarkeia diadhlwshs dekadwn akrodejiwn ebraiwn ejtremistwn sthn polh ayth, h opoia qewrhqhke ws proklhsh. H hremia epanhlqe mia wra meta tis symplokes anamesa se sxedon 200 Arabes anti-diadhlwtes kai thn astynomia poy ekane logo gia deka syllhceis. Th stigmh opoy oi 70 ebraioi diadhlwtes efqanan sthn polh toy boreioy Israhl, h astynomia erije dakrygona kai bombides krotoy kai xrhsimopoihse manikes neroy gia na dialysei th sygkentrwsh twn anti-diadhlwtwn, symfwna me dhmosiografoys toy Gallikoy Praktoreioy. Orismenoi anti-diadhlwtes me kalymmena ta proswpa kai anebasmenoi panw stis steges, petajan petres stoys astynomikoys kai stoys ebraioys diadhlwtes. Alloi anacan fwties panw se lastixa kai kladia.\n``Qanato stoys tromokrates''\n``Apeleyqerwste thn Palaistinh. Me to aima kai thn cyxh mas qa qysiastoyme gia sena Palaistinh'', fwnazan ycwnontas palaistiniakes shmaies.\n``'Erxontai na amfisbhthsoyn th nomimothta ths arabikhs paroysias sth xwra, se syntonismo me toys ejtremistes ths dejias poy edreyoyn sthn kybernhsh'', eipe o Afoy Agmparigia, enas Arabas boyleyths poy katagetai apo thn polh Oym el-Faxem.\nO ekproswpos ths astynomias eipe oti stadiaka epanhlqe h hremia sthn perioxh, meta thn apoxwrhsh twn ebraiwn diadhlwtwn kai th syllhch deka atomwn poy petoysan petres. Oi syllhceis pragmatopoihqhkan apo israhlinoys astynomikoys metamfiesmenoys se anti-diadhlwtes.\nAkrodejioi ebraioi ejtremistes efqasan apo thn Ieroysalhm sthn arabikh polh Oym el-Faxem sto boreio Israhl gia na pragmatopoihsoyn diadhlwsh sth mnhmh ths 20hs epeteioy symfwna me to ebraiko hmerologio ths dolofonias sth Nea Yorkh toy rabinoy Meir Kaxane, toy epikefalhs toy ektos nomoy ratsistikoy anti-arabikoy kinhmatos Kax to 1994.\nOi ebraioi ejtremistes fwnazan apo thn pleyra toys ``Qanato stoys tromokrates'' zhtwntas thn apagoreysh toy islamikoy kinhmatos sth xwra kai isobia kaqeirjh gia seixh Raent Salax, ton epikefalhs ths rizospastikhs pterygas toy islamikoy kinhmatos sto Israhl.\n``To islamiko kinhma anhkei sto dieqnh islamiko iero polemo'', dhlwse o israhlinos boyleyths Mikael Mpen-Ari, toy akrodejioy kommatos Eqnikh Enwsh.\n``Sthn Aigypto einai paranomo. Sthn Iordania den epitrepetai na exei opoiadhpote epirroh. Den yparxei logos na eimaste mia hliqia dhmokratia kai na afhsoyme ton kosmo poy qelei na katastrecei na exoyme fwnh''.\n``Gyrnw ston prwqypoyrgo kai lew: Den yparxei logos sto islamiko kinhma na epitrepetai na yparxei sto Israhl'', dhlwse o Mpen-Ari sthn efhmerida Tzeroysalem Post.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 12:17\nSe ejelijh brisketai epixeirhsh gia th swthria 111 atomwn apo ploio-ergostasio poy exei tylixtei stis floges konta stis notiodytikes aktes ths Bretanias, anakoinwse h aktofylakh. H aktofylakh toy Folmaoyq syntonizei thn qalassia kai enaeria epixeirhsh diaswshs twn epibainontwn toy ploioy, poy brisketai 230 milia notiodytika twn Nhswn Sili. To ``Athena'' -me shmaia twn Nhswn Faroes- einai ploio epejergasias cariwn, mhkoys 115 metrwn kai dynatothtas 123meloys plhrwmatos. ``H pyrkagia mainetai'', dhlwse ekproswpos ths aktofylakhs, dieykrinizontas pws 81 anqrwpoi exoyn epibibastei stis swsibies lemboys kai alloi trianta briskontai akoma panw sto ploio. Opws metedwse to BBC, to ploio poy epese se sfodrh kataigida nayphghqhke to 1992 kai epidiorqwqhke sthn Kina fetos, meta apo allh pyrkagia.\nDiabaste epishs: BBC:Rescue bid for crew on The Athena off Isles of Scilly\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 12:29\nProblech gia epibradynsh ths yfeshs ekane o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn Giwrgos Papakwnstantinoy apo th Lemeso ths Kyproy, milwntas sto Limassol Economic Forum. O k. Papakwnstantioy, eipe pws h anaptyjh qa syrriknwqei kata 4% fetos, kata 2,5% me 3%, to 2011. Sto prosxedio toy proypologismoy gia to 2011, poy dhmosieythke nwritera ton Oktwbrio, ektimatai oti to 2011 to AEP ths xwras qa meiwqei kata 2,6%, apo 4% to 2010. Sto periqwrio ths diorganwshs o k. Papakwnstantinoy qa exei kat' idian synomilia me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn ths Kyproy Xarilao Stayrakh, o opoios metexei sto foroym.\nTetarth, 27 10 2010 12:06\nThn anastolh ths 24wrhs apergias poy eixan programmatisei gia thn Paraskeyh 29 Oktwbrioy apofasisan oi ergazomenoi ston OSE, kaqws to nomosxedio gia ton eksygxronismo toy organismoy, sto opoio antidroyn, apotelei pleon apo xqes nomos toy kratoys. Epishmainoyn pantws oti qa prosfygoyn se ellhnika kai dieqnh dikasthria kata toy nomoy. Shmera pantws paramenoyn akinhtopoihmena trena kai proastiakos.\nSto Parisi o D. Reppas\nEn tw metajy, shmera o ypoyrgos Ypodomwn, Metaforwn & Diktywn, Dhmhtrhs Reppas qa synanthqei sto Parisi me to Gallo omologo toy prokeimenoy na diereynhqei endexomenh synergasia metajy twn dyo xwrwn sto sidhrodromo.\nO Gallos ypoyrgos kata thn prohgoymenh episkech toy sthn Ellada eixe metaferei to endiaferon twn Gallikwn sidhrodromwn gia drasthriopoihsh sthn TRAINOSE.\nSxetikh eidhsh: OSE: Allages kai antidraseis\neragr2html v1.00 run on Friday, 29 October 2010 - 11:14:01 UTC


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url: =* Shmera to prwi o Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy, ton k. Romples. Syzhthsan qemata gia th leitoyrgia toy Eyrw-koinoboylioy kai tis diadikasies enopoihshs ths Eyrwphs. O k. Shmiths enhmerwse ton jeno epishmo paragonta, gia ta eqnika mas qemata, gia tis ejelijeis sthn perioxh. Einai gnwsto oti pantote h Ellada, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn poy ginontai sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, parexei yposthrijh sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio kai panta pairnei qesh yper ths dieyrynshs twn ejoysiwn toy.\n* Synedriase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Sth synedriash ayth egine mia episkophsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, enas elegxos ths proodoy, oson afora thn efarmogh twn diaforwn apofasewn poy exoyme labei kata kairoys. Kai epishs, proxwrhsame se enan politiko sxediasmo, me bash ta xronika shmeia ta opoia apoteloyn sygkekrimenes kai shmantikes politikes orioqethseis, opws einai oi Nomarxiakes kai oi Dhmotikes Ekloges.\n-Yparxoyn ypoxrewseis gia thn Kybernhsh, sto eswteriko kai to ejwteriko, gia tis opoies prepei na proetoimastoyme, wste na antapokriqoyme me ton kalytero tropo.\n-Yparxei h Diaskech ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs poy qa ginei stis 12 Martioy.\n-To Maio qa exoyme th Synodo Koryfhs poy qa asxolhqei me ta qemata ths Oikonomikhs kai Nomismatikhs Enwshs.\n-Exoyme mprosta mas thn Proedria ths Dytikoeyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai toy Symboylioy ths Eyrwphs.\n-Sto eswteriko ths xwras, qa prepei to kybernhtiko ergo, mexri to kalokairi, na exei oloklhrwqei -se sxesh me toys sxediasmoys poy exoyme kanei- prokeimenoy stis Nomarxiakes kai Dhmotikes Ekloges o ellhnikos laos na exei mia eikona gia to ergo ayto.\nH syzhthsh sthn K.E. aforoyse diaforoys tomeis ths kybernhtikhs drashs.\n-Oson afora tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis parathrhqhke oti yparxei ayth h politikh reystothta sthn Toyrkia. Emeis epiqymoyme oi ejelijeis sthn Toyrkia na odhghsoyn sth dhmioyrgia enos topioy poy qa diakrinetai gia th staqerothta kai qa parexei th dynatothta gia ypeyqynh antimetwpish twn qematwn. H qesh mas gia th synexish ths diadikasias ths epikoinwnias-dialogoy, mesw empeirognwmonwn, paramenei h idia. Kai h E.E. symfwnei oti pragmati prepei na ejelixqei aytos o dialogos mesw twn empeirognwmonwn. H Toyrkia, opws gnwrizete, arneitai na symmetasxei, epeidh akribws exei labei th qesh na mhn symmetexei se opoiesdhpote diadikasies, oi opoies anaptyssontai me prwtoboylia ths E.E. Kai gia to qema ths Diaskechs ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, epiqymoyme th symmetoxh ths Toyrkias s' ayth. H Toyrkia exei dhlwsei -mexri twra toylaxiston, ayth einai h qesh ths- oti endiaferetai na einai ypochfia pros entajh xwra kai gi' ayto den qa parei meros sth Diaskech. Elpizoyme na allajei qesh.\n-Oson afora to Kypriako, epikeintai oi ekloges sthn Kypro. Meta thn anadeijh ths neas kybernhshs, anamenontai oi ejaggelqeises prwtoboylies, gia thn antimetwpish toy Kypriakoy problhmatos.\n-Oson afora thn amyna ths xwras, apofasisame oti to ejoplistiko programma prepei na proxwrhsei me bash ton arxiko sxediasmo. Gia ta qemata ayta qa sygklhqei, isws, thn epomenh periodo Kybernhtiko Organo. Peran twn eqnikwn anagkwn poy kalyptontai me thn proodo toy ejoplistikoy programmatos, eipame oti prepei na ajiopoihsoyme ayth th diadikasia, prokeimenoy na ejasfalisoyme, mesw oikonomikwn symmaxiwn h diplwmatikwn prwtoboyliwn poy qa analaboyme, kai ofelh se alloys tomeis.\n-Sto eswteriko ths xwras -mia kai milhsame gia tis Nomarxiakes kai Dhmotikes Ekloges- einai hdh se ejelijh o sxediasmos poy exoyme kanei gia th synenwsh Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn, o gnwstos sas "Kapodistrias". Diakosioi ebdomhnta episthmones, epilegentes apo ta Kentra Katartishs, meletoyn ta problhmata twn newn organismwn gia na proteinoyn egkairws lyseis. Syntomotata ena episthmoniko, stelexiako dynamiko 2.500 anqrwpwn, qa analabei na asxolhqei me ta problhmata toy kaqe Dhmoy xwrista, katanemhmeno se omades, prokeimenoy na proteinei tekmhriwmenes kai efiktes lyseis gia thn antimetwpish toys.\n-Epishs, syzhthsame gia ta qemata ths oikonomias. H entajh mas sthn ONE paramenei stoxos koryfaias shmasias gia th xwra mas. Pisteyoyme oti, opws mexri twra me epityxia, etsi, an paroysiastei analogh piesh kai sto mellon, qa thn antimetwpisoyme. Kai milw gia pieseis sto eqniko nomisma. Den fainontai ston orizonta, toylaxiston apo ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyme ypoch mas, ws piqanes ayth thn wra tetoies pieseis. Eimaste omws etoimoi -ki ayto to mhnyma qeloyme na steiloyme- na antimetwpisoyme ola ta endexomena.\n-Yparxei h kinhtopoihsh omadwn, se diafores perioxes ths xwras. Ta problhmata ta opoia antimetwpizoyn, mas einai gnwsta. H Kybernhsh eyaisqhtopoieitai. Epiqymei mesw toy dialogoy twn omadwn poy diekdikoyn th lysh aithmatwn toys, me thn politikh hgesia toy armodioy Ypoyrgeioy, na antimetwpizontai kai na lynontai ta problhmata ayta. Pisteyoyme pws h antiparaqesh den mporei na prosferei lyseis. Antiqeta apobainei se baros olwn.\n-Telos, egine logos gia thn anadeijh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Gia mia akomh fora milhsame gia th diastash poy yparxei anamesa sto ploysio kybernhtiko "einai" kai to ligotero -se sxesh me to "einai"- elkystiko kybernhtiko "fainesqai". Pisteyoyme oti to mhnyma ths koinhs prospaqeias, ths allhleggyas stashs, ths apo koinoy symporeyshs gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn -giati ayto apotelei thn apostolh poy aneqese o ellhnikos laos sthn Kybernhsh kai to komma mas- einai ena mhnyma to opoio qa exei apodektes oloys ekeinoys poy prepei na to laboyn, na to ensternistoyn kai na to metoysiwsoyn se kanona symperiforas, se kanona kaqhmerinhs politikhs praktikhs.\nKIAOS: Pote arxise h synedriash kai ti wra teleiwse;\nREPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti egw symmeteixa apo ena shmeio kai meta, dioti eprepe na apanthsw sth Boylh, se erwthseis synadelfwn boyleytwn. Nomizw oti jekinhse ligo meta tis 10.30 kai teleiwse peripoy sth 1.30.\nKIAOS: Treis wres dhladh.\nREPPAS: Nai, peripoy treis wres.\nKIAOS: Apontes eixe h htan oloi parontes;\nREPPAS: Htan ola ta melh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.\nKIAOS: Ektos twn melwn proshlqan ki alloi Ypoyrgoi;\nREPPAS: Ektos twn melwn ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, hmoyn parwn egw, htan parontes o k. Pasxalidhs, o k. Gianitshs, oikonomikos symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy, o k. Qemelhs kai o k. Kosmidhs bebaia, opws panta, ws grammateas toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.\nKIAOS: H diadikasia poy akoloyqhqhke, dhladh, sthn hmerhsia diatajh htan grammeno qema geniko, opws eipate sthn arxh ...\nREPPAS: H prosklhsh h opoia apeyqynotan onomastika sta melh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai stoys alloys stoys opoioys anaferqhka, mas kaloyse na laboyme meros se mia synedriash, ths opoias to qema htan "h poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy". Aytos htan o titlos. Mporw na th qesw sth diaqesh sas thn prosklhsh an qelete.\nKIAOS: Aneptyxqhsan apoceis kai kritikh gia thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy kai gia to an prepei na einai etsi h alliws h kybernhtikh politikh;\nREPPAS: Asfalws, stis synedriaseis den syzhtoyme gia na aponemoyme epaino ston eayto mas. Syzhtoyme gia na epishmainoyme tis kaqysterhseis kai tis adynamies prokeimenoy na beltiwnoyme to ergo mas. Qa elega oti egine mia anafora sta shmantikotera qemata ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. Akroqigws anaferqhkan kapoia qemata, me perissoteres leptomereies kapoia alla. Opws ta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs fer' eipein, gia ta opoia sas eipa kapoia kentrika stoixeia ayths ths syzhthshs. Ayto htan to pneyma to opoio epikrathse.\nKIAOS: An mporeite na prosdiorisete tomeis ths kybernhtikhs politikhs kai ths poreias toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, oi opoioi synanthsan perissotero, qa elega, thn kritikh symfwna me ayto poy eipate kai apo poioys sygkekrimena Ypoyrgoys;\nREPPAS: Antilambaneste pws den einai dynaton na katasthsoyme dhmosies tis synedriaseis aytes. H enhmerwsh poy sas edwsa, anaferetai se ola ta qemata poy eqighsan kai anaferqhka me enan tetoio tropo o opoios epanalambanw oti kalyptei thn anagkh ths enhmerwshs. An qelete gia kapoio qema na qesete kapoia erwthsh, eyxaristws. Eimai sth diaqesh sas. Mporw omws na pw -mia kai me qetete apenanti s' ayton ton peirasmo- oti oloi epekrinan thn epikoinwniakh politikh, h opoia akoloyqeitai. Oloi mhdenos ejairoymenoy. Kai oloi dexqhkame oti pragmati yparxei megalh diastash metajy toy "einai" kai toy "fainesqai" toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.\nKIAOS: Ayto einai eykolo kai se sas na to peite, dioti fortwneste, qelete den qelete ...\nREPPAS: To lew gia na mh qewrhqei oti prospaqoyme na apokrycoyme ena meros ths syzhthshs ayths. Asfalws, ayto einai mia pragmatikothta.\nKIAOS: Oxi, egw den to dexomai ayto.\nELENOPOYLOS: Kai ektimame oti bazete to sthqos sas mprosta.\nKIAOS: Ayto na legetai. Alla, epi paradeigmati, epishmanqhke, as poyme, h poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy ston tomea ths oikonomias kai me toys xeirismoys poy akoloyqoyntai h oxi kai epishmanqhkan trwta h epishmanqhkan shmeia poy mporoyn na beltiwqoyn h oxi s' ayton ton tomea;\nREPPAS: Egine anafora stis epityxies poy eixame kai anafora stoys gnwstoys deiktes oi opoioi martyroyn thn proodo poy exoyme epitelesei. Egine sygkekrimenh anafora, enocei ths syzhthshs gia th sygkekrimenh diatajh poy afora thn allagh toy genikoy kanonismoy proswpikoy se sygkekrimenes epixeirhseis toy Dhmosioy. Eipwqhke oti h katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei stis epixeirhseis aytes, xrhzei ameshs antimetwpishs. Den einai dynaton na menoyme apaqeis. Qa prepei na epidiwjoyme, bebaiws, mesa apo diadikasies synaineshs na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata twn epixeirhsewn toy Dhmosioy, erxomenoi se synennohsh me toys ergazomenoys, me ta syndikata poy toys ekproswpoyn. Den qa prepei, omws, na mas diafeygei oti o apodekths twn yphresiwn aytwn twn epixeirhsewn, poy einai o poliths, prepei na apotelei ton kyrio skopo, prokeimenoy aytos na yphreteitai me thn politikh mas. M' ayth thn ennoia, pisteyoyme oti h politikh thn opoia akoloyqoyme stoys tomeis aytoys, einai h endedeigmenh politikh. Den eipwqhke kati diaforetiko. Einai h koinh antilhch, oti prepei na proxwrhsoyme se tomes kai allages.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Poia problhmata sth dietia -oikonomika, ejwterika, eqnika- epelyse h Kybernhsh, ston apologismo poy kanate;\nREPPAS: Moy dinete th xara na kanw mia apariqmhsh olwn twn epityxiwn ths Kybernhshs.\nMIXAHL: Den qeloyme, "eleos"!\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Poia epelyse; Allo apariqmhsh kai allo poia epelyse.\nREPPAS: Exoyme hdh proseggisei para poly, toys stoxoys poy eixame qesei me to programma sygklishs. Ayth einai mia megalh epityxia. Qa elega oti petyxame sxedon to akatorqwto. Ayto to paradexontai kai oikonomikoi kykloi kai dieqneis organismoi. Nomizw, loipon, oti den prepei na parablepete ayth thn proodo poy epiteleitai s' aytoys toys tomeis. Sta eqnika qemata: Exoyme mia enisxysh ths paroysias ths Elladas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Einai enas xwros o opoios mas endiaferei idiaitera, afoy eimaste melos ayths ths megalhs Enwshs. Qa epityxoyme na eimaste ayrio sthn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh. Ayto isodynamei, qa elega, me mia nea entajh pleon, se ena dieqnh organismo toy opoioy ta krithria kai oi prodiagrafes einai poly pio aysthra apo ayta poy eixe h EOK tote, otan entaxqhkame gia prwth fora. Ayto kanei th nea entajh poly pio dyskolo egxeirhma. Pisteyoyme oti qa to epityxoyme. Eimaste, loipon, sth swsth kateyqynsh. Exoyme tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei se Synodoys twn organwn ths E.E. gia tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis, oi opoies ws politiko plaisio aphxoyn tis arxes ths ejwterikhs politikhs mas, oson afora tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Exoyme thn antimetwpish, oson afora eswterika qemata, problhmatwn poy apasxoloyn megales omades toy ellhnikoy plhqysmoy, dinontas idiaiterh emfash -mesw twn eidikwn programmatwn- sthn antimetwpish ths anergias, th dhmioyrgia enos istoy koinwnikhs prostasias, gia na bohqhsoyme toys pio adynamoys, toys asqenesteroys oikonomika kai koinwnika.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Egw den rwthsa gia ta "qa". Poia, rwthsa. Ti ekane;\nREPPAS: Ola ayta einai pragmatikothta.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Qa mpoyme sthn ONE, "qa".Qa lysoyme thn apergia, "qa".\nREPPAS: Ma, giati qa mpoyme; Giati exoyme petyxei ayto to bhma...\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Den exete petyxei. "Qa" petyxete.\nREPPAS: Ayth einai h dikh sas apoch. Me eixate rwthsei kapote an to teliko keimeno ths Diakybernhtikhs problepei ayth th diatajh, thn opoia eixame eishghqei prwtoi emeis. Otan dhmosieyqhke to keimeno kai eidate oti symperilambanetai ayth h diatajh den me janarwthsate. Giati mexri tote, peripoy deixnate oti den pisteyate, oti einai dynaton na symperilhfqei sto keimeno ths Diakybernhtikhs ayth h diatajh, ayth h prosqhkh. Kai omws, symperielhfqh. Kai jerete oti ayto to qema apotelese antikeimeno syzhthsewn gia para poly kairo sto eswteriko ths xwras, meta thn prwth Synodo Koryfhs ths Diakybernhtikhs, sto Torino ths Italias. Ara, loipon, an qeloyme na eimaste antikeimenikoi, prepei na gnwrizoyme oti dipla sta problhmata, ta opoia yparxoyn kai qa yparxoyn kai einai polla kai kapoia exoyn kai ojytath morfh kai mas apasxoloyn, yparxoyn kai epityxies. Exoyme na paroysiasoyme ena ergo.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh eggyatai ta synora ths xwras;\nREPPAS: Qelete na syzhthsoyme twra ti akribws symbainei;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Rwtaw, an eggyatai oti ta synora ths xwras einai kai synora ths E.E.;\nREPPAS: Ta synora ths xwras ta yperaspizetai o ellhnikos laos, idiaiterws oi Enoples Dynameis, poy briskontai se ychlo epipedo apotreptikhs ikanothtas. Epiprosqetws, oles aytes oi qeseis poy se dieqneis organismoys symperilambanontai sta ntokoymenta toys h ekfrazontai me diaforoys tropoys, bohqoyn se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Giati, an den eixan thn ajia, poy lew egw oti exoyn, tote den dikaiologeitai to diko sas endiaferon, na qetete kai na janaqetete ayta ta qemata, ws shmantika. Eseis ta qetete kai zhtate apanthseis, apaitwntas apo thn Kybernhsh na kanei ta analoga bhmata. Otan exete aytes tis apanthseis, qewreite oti den einai shmantika ta qemata. Ti apo ta dyo symbainei;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Den eida na syzhthsete kaqoloy gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Den sas apasxolei;\nREPPAS: Den syzhthsame gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Den htan antikeimeno ths syzhthshs. H diadikasia ayth, gnwrizete oti analhfqhke pleon apo thn Organwtikh Epitroph. Pisteyoyme oti me poly qetiko tropo qa prowqhqoyn kai s' ayto ton tomea ta qemata.\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh den sas apasxolei..\nREPPAS: Bgazete to symperasma oti den mas apasxolei; Asfalws, mas apasxolei. Gi' ayto orisame ayth thn Organwtikh Epitroph. Giati sas akoyw na ciqyrizete, "ara, den sas apasxolei h Olympiada". Ayto to symperasma bgalate apo thn apanthsh poy edwsa;\nSTAMATOPOYLOS: Edw exei ginei xamos me toys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai eseis den to syzhtate san ena qema kybernhtiko;\nREPPAS: Asfalws to syzhtame, alla, me ton tropo kai sto xrono poy prepei na ginetai ayth h syzhthsh.\nKACAMPELHS: Eipate sthn eisagwgh sas gia apodektes toy mhnymatos. Poioys ennoeite; Toys Ypoyrgoys;\nREPPAS: Oxi bebaia toys Ypoyrgoys. Oi Ypoyrgoi, gnwrizete poly kala, oti einai melh toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos kai symbaloyn s' ayth thn prospaqeia gia thn anadeijh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.\nKACAMPELHS: Eipate gia to ejoplistiko programma, oti qa yparjei synedriash kybernhtikoy organoy kai qa kaqorisei ti; Kai to rwtaw ayto giati symfwna me plhrofories poy dhmosieyqhkan kai den eida kamia diaceysh, antidrash, yparxei mia emplokh. Fainetai oti o Prwqypoyrgos, h Kybernhsh emplekei to ejoplistiko kai toys xeirismoys sto ejoplistiko me tis eswkommatikes isorropies kai mia allagh taktikhs apenanti ston k. Tsoxatzopoylo, poy apo symmaxos ginetai exqros, k.l.p. Peite mas, loipon, ti qa syzhthsete epiteloys;\nREPPAS: Den katalabainw se poio qema anafereste h se poia dhmosieymata. An qelete na rwthsete pio sygkekrimena, eyxaristws na kanw ena sxolio. Ayto to opoio mporw na pw einai oti, to ejoplistiko programma, pisteyoyme oti prepei na ejelixqei stoys xronoys poy exoyme apofasisei. Eipame oti einai piqano na synedriasei kai pali ena kybernhtiko organo, to KYSEA isws, prokeimenoy na parakoloyqhsei ayth th diadikasia, na ektimhsei thn proodo poy exoyme kanei kai na labei kapoies apofaseis, wste an kati prepei na beltiwsoyme, na to kanoyme ki ayto. Sta dhmosieymata gia ta opoia anafereste, den exw ypoch moy kati sygkekrimeno, alla, mporw na kanw ena geniko sxolio, an qelete. Qelete na moy peite kati sygkekrimeno;\nKACAMPELHS: Yphrje xqesino prwtoselido dhmosieyma, symfwna me to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos allazontas ta stoixeia poy edwse ston Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs, gia eswkommatikoys logoys, allazei kai toys xeirismoys gia ta ejoplistika.\nREPPAS: Malista. Anafereste sto dhmosieyma ths "Kaqhmerinhs", opws antilambanomai, etsi opws to ejeidikeysate. Den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. O Prwqypoyrgos kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos den einai symmaxoi. Einai synergates edw kai para polla xronia. Exoyn mia koinh, parallhlh poreia. Kai h qhteia toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, nomizw oti den afhnei periqwria na proklhqoyn tetoioy eidoys kritikes. O Prwqypoyrgos prosblepei se ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanei o k. Tsoxatzopoylos ws Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, gia th qwrakish ths xwras mas kai th dhmioyrgia newn synqhkwn, prokeimenoy kai s' ayto tonn tomea h Ellada, ta epomena xronia, na einai mia isxyrh Ellada.\nMIXAHL: Egw qelw na sas rwthsw dyo pragmata. To prwto einai, synexeia aytoy akribws poy eipate. To gegonos oti o k. Tsoxatzopoylos exei ekfrasei dhmosiws antirrhseis gia tis ejelijeis sth Neolaia PASOK, sas apasxolei kai ti sxolio exete na kanete gi' ayto;\nREPPAS: Ayto einai ena qema me to opoio asxoloyntai ta kommatika organa. Einai ena eswkommatiko zhthma kai gnwrizete poly kala oti oi ypeyqynoi to xeirizontai me tetoio tropo, wste na yparjei h kalyterh dynath lysh.\nMIXAHL: To deytero poy hqela na rwthsw einai: milhsate sth Kybernhtikh Epitroph gia episkophsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, alla kai gia enan politiko sxediasmo sygkekrimeno. Kapoies prwtoboylies, kapoies kainoyrgies politikes poy skepteste na ejaggeilete h poy apofasisate, yparxoyn kai poies einai;\nREPPAS: Yparxei to programma mas kai s' ayto symperilambanontai ola. Apla, qa synexisoyme ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanoyme, me bash tis ierarxhseis kai tis proteraiothtes poy hdh exoyme kaqorisei, edw kai para poly kairo.\nMIXAHL: Giati to syndyasate kai me tis nomarxiakes ekloges...\nREPPAS: Giati kata kairoys ta kybernhtika organa asxoloyntai m' ayth th genikh qewrhsh ths ejelijhs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Einai kati to opoio egine kai shmera. Den einai ena politiko xroniko shmeio h diejagwgh twn topikwn eklogwn, to opoio se megalo baqmo prepei na laboyme ypoch mas; Bebaiws, prepei na to laboyme ypoch mas.\nMIXAHL: Poies proteraiothtes toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, anadeiknyete eseis gia toys epomenoys mhnes kai se poioys tomeis;\nREPPAS: Se oloys toys tomeis yparxoyn ena-dyo-tria qemata ta opoia einai ta koryfaia. Kai ston tomea ths ejwterikhs politikhs kai ston tomea ths oikonomias kai ston tomea ths koinwnikhs politikhs. Qelete na sas pw se kaqe tomea ti einai ayto to opoio apotelei thn proteraiothta;\nMIXAHL: Se poioys tomeis;\nREPPAS: Se oloys toys tomeis. Einai dynaton mia Kybernhsh na pei oti asxoloymai mono me ta qemata koinwnikhs politikhs kai den asxoloymai me thn ejwterikh politikh;\nMIXAHL: Allh barythta exoyn oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, allh barythta exei h sygklish ths oikonomias kai allh barythta exei h ryqmish.....\nREPPAS: Ola exoyn thn idia barythta, analogws twn synqhkwn poy kaqe fora epikratoyn. Ena qema poy kapoia stigmh, logw twn synqhkwn poy epikratoyn, den fainetai na apotelei antikeimeno proteraiothtas ws pros thn apasxolhsh h th sygkentrwsh endiaferontos ths Kybernhshs kai ths Koinhs Gnwmhs, kapoia allh stigmh, ek twn pragmatwn, kaqistatai kyriarxo zhthma. H Kybernhsh asxoleitai me ola ta qemata.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Sto plaisio ths epikoinwniakhs politikhs ths Kybernhshs, synarmodia Ypoyrgeia, xqes kai proxqes, dieneiman katalogoys, me ayto poy onomazoyn pronomia twn ergazomenwn stis DEKO. Qelw ena sxolio sas, gia to sxolio ths GSEE, ep' ayths ths praktikhs, poy th xarakthrise gkempelismo kai epishs qa hqela na rwthsw an h Kybernhsh protiqetai na ekdwsei katalogo me to poso kostizoyn ston ellhniko lao ta dieyqynonta stelexh, oi grammateis kai oi diaforoi alloi stis dhmosies epixeirhseis, kaqws kai to poso kostizoyn ston ellhniko lao oi Ypoyrgoi, k.l.p.\nREPPAS: Ayta einai gnwsta. Einai eykolo, kapoios, o opoios qelei na ta ereynhsei na exei ta stoixeia poy ton endiaferoyn. Den einai kryfa ta stoixeia ayta, oson afora tis apodoxes.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: An sas parakaloysa na mas ta dianeimete to apogeyma, qa to kanate;\nREPPAS: Den ta exw sth diaqesh moy. Alla kai den einai kai diko moy ergo. Apeyqynqeite se kaqe Ypoyrgeio, se kaqe dhmosio Organismo kai qa exete ta stoixeia ayta. Den gnwrizw na yparxei kapoia diadikasia, h opoia problepei th sygkentrwsh aytwn twn stoixeiwn, prokeimenoy sygkentrwmena na einai kapoy, wste na melethqoyn. Einai kati to opoio den problepetai. Alla, epeidh akribws gnwrizete oti h diadikasia einai apolyta diafanhs oson afora th misqodosia twn stelexwn toy Dhmosioy kai twn politikwn paragontwn, eykolotata o kaqenas apo sas mporei na exei prosbash s' ayta ta stoixeia. Den einai mystika. Oson afora twra to plhroforiako yliko, to opoio exoyn sth diaqesh toys oi dhmosiografoi, prokeimenoy na ypobohqoyn sto ergo toys, den qelw na kanw kanena sxolio. Pisteyw oti ayth einai mia praktikh, h opoia akoloyqeitai edw kai para polla xronia. Mia praktikh poy kai eseis dexeste oti bohqaei. Ginetai gia texnikoys h praktikoys logoys, den einai kati to asynhqisto. Den einai logiko, otan yparxei mia diafwnia epi ths oysias gia sygkekrimeno zhthma, na prospaqoyme me alloys tropoys na strecoyme pros alles kateyqynseis to endiaferon kai na mh syzhthsoyme epi ths oysias to sygkekrimeno zhthma. Exoyme ena qema poy afora th leitoyrgia twn dhmosiwn epixeirhsewn, poy einai zhmiogones h poly elleimmatikes. Yparxei protash, boylhsh, prwtoboylia ths Kybernhshs na antimetwpisei to qema ths allaghs twn kanonismwn Proswpikoy s' aytes tis epixeirhseis. Oi ergazomenoi me ta syndikata toys exoyn ekfrasei th diafwnia toys. Eimaste s' ayto to shmeio. H Boylh pleon exei to logo.\nKIAOS: Epeidh anaferqhkate se mia meqodo poy akoloyqeitai. Hqela na rwthsw giati den epeleje h Kybernhsh th meqodo na anakoinwqoyn epishmws ws qeseis ths ayta ta peri pronomiwn kai dioxeteyqhkan se orismena mono Mesa. Den aspazetai h Kybernhsh epishmws ayth th qesh poy dienemhqh apo ta armodia Ypoyrgeia, opws eipe o synadelfos;\nREPPAS: Prepei na pw oti h dhmosiografia prokeimenoy na ypobohqhqei o kaqenas apo sas, prepei kai dia aytoy toy tropoy na yposthrizetai. Prepei na yposthrizetai h dhmosiografia, prokeimenoy na yparxei plhrhs enhmerwsh. Dieykolyneste kai eseis sto reportaz to opoio kanete. Den nomizw oti ayto einai mempto. Gia na exete ypoch sas stoixeia, ta opoia einai shmantika, prokeimenoy na ta ajiopoihsete.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Poios dhmosiografos zhthse tetoia stoixeia;\nREPPAS: Kyrie Mpogiopoyle, edw qetete ena megalo qema. Dioti oysiastikws, emmesws estw, alla oysiastikws, epixeireite na periorisoyme thn kykloforia twn apocewn poy yparxoyn gia diafora qemata. Parakalw para poly, jerete pote qa yphrxe problhma; An se kapoio Meso Enhmerwshs basei kapoias diatajhs h me tropo poy synista ayqairesia, h Kybernhsh epebale th dhmosieysh aytoy toy plhroforiakoy ylikoy h thn probolh toy. Tote qa mporoysame na milame gia ena problhma. Alla, parakalw para poly, ayto einai kati teleiws diaforetiko. Mhn epimenete, sas parakalw para poly.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Ws melos toy dhmosiografikoy kosmoy, egw den mporw na dextw oti xrhsimopoieite ws "aspida" toys dhmosiografoys gia na kanete ayto poy leei h GSEE, epanalambanw, "gkempelismo". Sas parakalw, tetoioy eidoys momfh pros to dhmosiografiko kosmo na mhn thn apeyqynete.\nREPPAS: Den aphyqyna kamia momfh sto dhmosiografiko kosmo. Eseis apeyqynete, omws, qa moy epitrecete na pw...\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Egw metaferw ektimhsh tritobaqmias syndikalistikhs organwshs.\nREPPAS: Kai fainetai oti symfwneite. Emeis diafwnoyme me ayto to sxolio.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: To ti kanw egw, einai allo qema.\nREPPAS: Lew, fainetai. Kai fainetai oti symfwneite gia na qetete etsi to qema. Emeis, loipon, diafwnoyme. Qewroyme oti einai apokleistiko sas dikaiwma na anadeijete ta qemata ta opoia qewreite krisima gia ton topo kai ton Ellhniko Lao, me ton tropo poy eseis qa epilejete. Emeis, qewroyme aparaithto, prokeimenoy eseis na exete eparkh enhmerwsh, na exete ypoch sas olo ekeino to plhroforiako yliko poy qa sas bohqhsei na morfwsete gnwmh kai ayth th gnwmh na th metaferete kai ston Ellhniko Lao, stoys anagnwstes, toys thleqeates kai akroates.\nKIAOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas rwthsa giati den qewrhse skopimo h Kybernhsh, dia toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy, na ta anakoinwsei epishma kai ta dioxeteyse;\nREPPAS: Qa mporoysa na pw ki egw, kat' ayton ton tropo, giati den qewroyn skopimo kai oi dhmosiografoi, ean qeloyn na kanoyn ena plhres reportaz, na anazhthsoyn ayta ta stoixeia, opws o k. Mpogiopoylos endiaferetai na zhthsei ta stoixeia, ta opoia aforoyn kratika stelexh se diaforoys Organismoys h politikoys paragontes. Mhn mpoyme se ayto to dialogo.\nKIAOS: Yparxei mia diafora...\nREPPAS: Ayto to opoio exei ajia, einai na gnwrizete th qesh ths Kybernhshs. Th qesh ths Kybernhshs th gnwrizete.\nKIAOS: Poia einai;\nREPPAS: H politikh ths Kybernhshs sto sygkekrimeno qema exei diatypwqei kai symperilambanetai se ayth thn poly pyknh diatajh, h opoia qa syzhthqei sth Boylh.\nKIAOS: H erwthsh kai to qema poy eteqh einai gia ta pronomia me h xwris eisagwgika, opws qelete parte to. Kai to janalew: einai epishmh qesh ths Kybernhshs ayto to xarti poy dioxeteythke h oxi;\nREPPAS: Einai h praktikh poy pagiws akoloyqeitai.\nKIAOS: Sas erwtw sygkekrimena, allo oi praktikes. Einai qesh ths Kybernhshs ayth poy dioxeteythke h oxi; Kai den moy apantate.\nREPPAS: Kyrie Kiao, diylizete ton kwnwpa...\nKIAOS: Afhste ton kwnwpa...\nREPPAS: Kanete to sxolio sas. Egw qa kanw to diko moy.\nKIAOS: Den sxoliazw, erwtw, k. Ypoyrge.\nREPPAS: H apanthsh einai h ejhs: diylizete ton kwnwpa. Ayth h praktikh akoloyqeitai polla xronia. Einai kati to opoio ki eseis epiqymeite kai epidiwkete. Einai kati to opoio xrhsimopoieite ws yliko, prokeimenoy na kanete ena plhres reportaz kai na paroysiasete ta qemata sthn koinh gnwmh. An den qelete na yparxei pleon ayth h diadikasia, na peite epishma, oti thn katadikazoyme emeis, ws dhmosiografoi. Kai mhn kratate tis apostaseis apo to sxolio ths GSEE. Peite oti symfwnoyme, oti qewroyme oti ayto den prepei na ginetai apo kanenan, enw gnwrizete poly kala oti einai ena meso to opoio sas ejyphretei, gia na exete me enan hmiepishmo tropo kapoia stoixeia ta opoia einai xrhsima gia th doyleia sas.\nKIAOS: Eipate arketa pragmata, an moy epitrepete, xwris na rwthsw, na sas pw prwton, oti o dhmosiografos exei dikaiwma na cajei kai na brei kai na anaskalisei o,tidhpote. Den yparxei fragmos. Poyqena, se tipota den yparxei fragmos...\nREPPAS: Mh biazeste, den einai akribws etsi.\nKIAOS: Me sygxwreite, den yparxei fragmos. O fragmos mpainei monaxa me th logokrisia kai monaxa me to "apagoreyetai". Deyteron, h erwthsh htan, an eseis, ws Kybernhsh, epishmws, ta yioqeteite kai apoteloyn qesh sas. Allo h doyleia poy kanei o dhmosiografos, poy ereyna, poy kanei reportaz kai allo h epishmh qesh ths Kybernhshs. Oyte "kwnwpes", oyte tipota allo. Einai sygkekrimena ta pragmata.\nREPPAS: Epeidh ta xeirizomaste ayta ta qemata ki exoyme oligon katatopistei, para to oti den eimaste oi pleon eidikoi, prepei na sas pw, k. Kiao, oti asfalws yparxoyn oria entos twn opoiwn kinoyntai oloi. Kai yparxoyn fragmoi. Den mporei h eyxereia poy exete na syllegete plhrofories gia na enhmerwsete antikeimenika ton Ellhniko Lao, na odhgoyn se parabiash atomikwn dikaiwmatwn sympolitwn mas. To orio sto opoio qa stamathsete, einai ekeino to opoio orizetai apo thn anagkh na perifroyreitai kai na prostateyetai h ajioprepeia kai h proswpikothta twn sympolitwn mas. Thn eyxereia ayth na syllegete plhrofories, den thn exete ws atomiko dikaiwma sas, thn exete ej antanaklasews, ws ypoxrewsh na prosferete antikeimenikh enhmerwsh. Kai mono gi' ayto. Peran toytoy, oydeis ypoxrewse --gia na eimaste eilikrineis- opoiondhpote apo esas h toys synadelfoys sas, na dhmosieysei keimena h na probalei mhnyma. Alla, lypoymai giati qetete to qema ayto san na einai megisto. Gia mas prepei na yparxei plhroforiako yliko, to opoio den exei kanenan allo skopo, para na yposthrijei to ergo to opoio kanete eseis. Mporeite na to petajete ston kalaqo twn axrhstwn an den to ajiologeite ws shmantiko gia th doyleia sas. Kante to. Mh fqanete sto shmeio, omws, mia praktikh thn opoia gnwrizete, giati ergazeste sto xwro ths enhmerwshs poly pio palia ap' o,ti breqhka egw, na thn proseggizete m' ayton ton tropo.\nKIAOS: An qelete na orisete mia hmera gia na milhsoyme gi' ayto to qema.\nREPPAS: Milhsa, xqes, gi' ayta ta qemata, se sxetikh ekdhlwsh sto Dikhgoriko Syllogo.\nMOSXOBAS: Qa apeyqynw mia erwthsh, h opoia exei teqei polles fores edw sto Press Room. Qa qesei o Prwqypoyrgos qema kommatikhs peiqarxias th Deytera; Kai to erwtw ayto, giati se allepallhles erwthseis mas eixate pei edw oti oi boyleytes exoyn aisqhsh ths eyqynhs k.t.l. Shmera, omws, akoysa boyleytes na dhlwnoyn oti qa katachfisoyn thn epimaxh diatajh.\nREPPAS: Epanerxomai, akribws, sta osa exw pei tis prohgoymenes hmeres, apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis.\nMOSXOBAS: Ki ena deytero erwthma, ean o Prwqypoyrgos exei kata noy na kanei dekto to aithma twn agrotwn, na synanthqei mazi toys. Malista, kai o k. Ebert anakoinwse oti ayto qa prajei, qa synanthqei mazi toys.\nREPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai gnwsths twn agrotikwn qematwn. Kaloyme toys agrotes na exoyn mia epikoinwnia kai synergasia me to Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias. Oi portes toy Ypoyrgeioy einai anoiktes, h politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy einai sth diaqesh toys. Kanei ta panta, edw kai para poly kairo, gia na antimetwpisei ta problhmata twn agrotwn. Prepei na yparxei aytos o dialogos. Milhsa allwste sthn arxh, gia thn anagkh ths synennohshs kai ths synergasias, gia thn apofygh ths antiparaqeshs, h opoia den odhgei poyqena kai blaptei th xwra.\nMOSXOBAS: Me ton Prwqypoyrgo den qa synanthqoyn;\nREPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema twra.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: H Kybernhsh -pairnw ena proxeiro paradeigma apo ayta poy dioxeteyse pros ta ejw- qewrei oti p.x. to gala poy pinoyn oi ergazomenoi, logw toy anqygieinoy ths ergasias toys, einai pronomio;\nREPPAS: Exw apanthsei gia ola ayta ta qemata, ta opoia mas apasxoloyn, se sxesh me to sygkekrimeno zhthma.\nMPOGIOPOYLOS: Epeidh, anaferqhkate sth xqesinh paroysia sas, sthn ekdhlwsh toy Dikhgorikoy Syllogoy, ekei h synadelfos ka Kanellh eipe -fantazomai enwpion sas- "mhpws den gnwrizete poios pairnei sta kanalia toys ekei ypeyqynoys kai toys leei ti na proballoyn;. O Tsoykatos pairnei". Mporeite na kanete ena sxolio ep' aytoy poy eipe h synadelfos;\nREPPAS: Akoysa thn prwth omilia ths kas Kanellh kai mporw na sas pw oti thn prosypografw apolyta. Milhse me wmo tropo gia ton kynismo twn MME, diektragwdhse mia katastash, h opoia yparxei, idiws stoys thleoptikoys staqmoys. Milhse me tetoio tropo poy se teleytaia analysh nomizw oti apodidei isws thn pragmatikothta. Den fantazomoyn omws oti einai toso zoferh. Edwse eikona dhmosiografwn poy en ocei toy agxoys ths ychlhs thleqeashs einai diateqeimenoi na kanoyn ta panta. Ayto moy htan adianohto. To akoysa xqes.\nKACAMPELHS: Afoy ypobalw protash na kanoyme mia hmerida se ena apo ta prosexh Sabbatokyriaka...\nREPPAS: Egw apantw se erwthseis. Ayto poy lete apeyqynetai se synadelfoys sas, oxi se mena.\nKACAMPELHS: Qa hqela, loipon, na rwthsw an yparxei endexomeno sthn periptwsh poy kapoioi boyleytes toy PASOK den chfisoyn to nomosxedio na ypostoyn kati analogo me toys treis synadelfoys toys.\nREPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Einai yperboliko na miloyme gia kommatikh peiqarxia. Yparxei peiqarxia apenanti sthn eyqynh kai apostolh poy o Ellhnikos Laos mas aneqese kai anamenei na antapokriqoyme se aythn.\nELENOPOYLOS: Erwthqhkate prin an h parainesh gia koinh prospaqeia kai allhleggya stash, poy einai ena mhnyma me apodektes oloys kai prepei na einai kanonas symperiforas kai eipate oti den apeyqynetai stoys Ypoyrgoys. Rwtw se poioys apeyqynetai ean den apeyqynetai stoys Ypoyrgoys.\nREPPAS: Oi ypoyrgoi oi opoioi syzhthsan gia ta qemata ayta epanelaban ki ekeinoi thn anagkh na yparxei ayth h koinh stash kai synergasia, ws politikh proteraiothta, h opoia se megalo baqmo qa ephreasei kai thn epityxia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Einai kati to aytonohto. Polles fores aytes oi politikes epishmanseis exoyn mia genikh ajia. To exw pei kai to epanalambanw. mhn prospaqeite na tis parermhneysete. Apeyqynontai se oloys kai kaloyntai oloi na tis ensternisqoyn.\nELENOPOYLOS: Ean qewrhsoyme oti exoyn dedomeno ayto ton kanona symperiforas, dhladh einai metajy toys allhleggyoi kai paroysiazoyn pros ta ejw mia koinh prospaqeia, erwtw poioi einai aytoi poy den to prattoyn kai ypoxreoyntai na to prajoyn;\nREPPAS: An yparxei estw kai enas poy den to prattei, to mhnyma apeyqynetai se enan, ean yparxoyn dyo, apeyqynetai se dyo, an yparxoyn perissoteroi, apeyqynetai se perissoteroys. Apeyqynetai se oloys ekeinoys oi opoioi exoyn ypoxrewsh na ferontai m' enan tetoio tropo, wste na einai symfwnoi me toys kanones leitoyrgias ths Kybernhshs kai, an milame kai gia to PASOK, kai toy kommatos mas.\nT. MPERMPERAKHS: Gia ta ellhnotoyrkika yphrxe eishghsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn; An yphrxe s' ayth thn eishghsh kapoios xarakthrismos oson afora th sygkyria twn ellhnotoyrkikwn kai an egine opoiadhpote syzhthsh h parathrhsh sxetika me tis teleytaies dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy;\nREPPAS: O k. Pagkalos ekane mia eishghsh, enw alloi elaban to logo kai milhsan gia ta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs kai twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. Milhsa sthn arxh kai eipa oti krinoyme pws yparxei mia reystothta sto politiko skhniko ths Toyrkias ayth thn periodo. Epiqymoyme na yparxei staqerothta, na yparxoyn omales ejelijeis sth geitonikh xwra. Na anaptyssoyme mia ajiopisth sxesh, sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, me thn Toyrkia. Apo kei kai pera, anamenomenes einai oi entaseis. Pisteyoyme oti h symperifora ths Toyrkias den odhgei sthn epiteyjh twn stoxwn poy leei oti exei qesei. Emeis epimenoyme ayto to qema, ths symperiforas ths Toyrkias, na to anadeiknyoyme, kalwntas thn na entaxqei stis eyrwpaikes domes, wste na symperiferetai kai analoga.\nDHMAKAS: Aytes oi epishmanseis poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos gia allhleggyh kai koinh stash, htan sygkekrimenes kai ean nai mporeite na mas peite merikes, se merikoys tomeis;\nREPPAS: Den egine sygkekrimenh anafora. Htan mia epishmansh h opoia exei mia genikh politikh ajia, thn opoia kai eseis anagnwrizete.\nDHMAKAS: Apo ton Prwqypoyrgo;\nREPPAS: Apo oloys.\nDHMAKAS: Apo Ypoyrgoys pros ton Prwqypoyrgo;\nREPPAS: Oxi pros ton Prwqypoyrgo. Einai kati to opoio proekyce kata th syzhthsh, ws qema to opoio mas apasxolei oloys. Einai ena qema to opoio exei shmasia kai prepei na to antimetwpisoyme.\nELENOPOYLOS: Eipate "syzhtoyme gia na epishmainoyme adynamies kai kaqysterhseis". Einai dynaton na mas peite ean epishmanqhkan sygkekrimenoi tomeis stoys opoioys yparxoyn kaqysterhseis;\nREPPAS: Qa anaferw ena paradeigma -kai qa apanthsw etsi, xwris na eklabete ws ypekfygh thn apanthsh moy- poy deixnei tis nootropies oi opoies yparxoyn kai toys ryqmoys me toys opoioys kineitai h ellhnikh koinwnia. Shmera h ayrio lhgei h proqesmia entos ths opoias qa eprepe ta Kentra Epaggelmatikhs Katartishs na kataqesoyn ta stoixeia toys, prokeimenoy na pistopoihqei h katallhlothta twn egkatastasewn toys h h eparkeia twn spoydwn poy parexoyn. Shmera leitoyrgoyn sthn Ellada peripoy 600 tetoia Kentra. Prepei na sas pw oti mexri xqes, kai enw h proqesmia lhgei shmera h ayrio, den eixe proselqei oyte enas. Oloi qa proselqoyn shmera h ayrio. Ayta einai problhmata pragmatika. Exoyn sxesh me nootropies, me ryqmoys, poy dhmioyrgoyn kai terastia problhmata sth genikh prospaqeia mas na antimetwpisoyme ta zhthmata poy apasxoloyn ton ellhniko lao. Ta problhmata ths dioikhshs, ta problhmata poy prokyptoyn, me tropo aifnidiastiko polles fores, mas anagkazoyn na bgoyme ejw apo ton programmatismo mas. Opws einai oi kinhtopoihseis gia paradeigma, oi opoies ekdhlwnontai gia qemata gia ta opoia einai para poly dyskolo na prokycei symfwnia, giati den yparxei dynatothta na ikanopoihqoyn sto oikonomiko meros toys ta aithmata ayta. Ayta dhmioyrgoyn empodia sto ergo mas.\nKIAOS: Sth synedriash ths K.E. akoysthkan perissotero ektimhseis h kai apofaseis;\nREPPAS: Egine ektimhsh, episkophsh, sxediasmos. Den elhfqhsan apofaseis. Oi apofaseis poy elhfqhsan einai -qa elega- politikoy kai oxi nomikoy periexomenoy. Einai politikoy periexomenoy apofaseis kai lyseis.\nKIAOS: Oi apofaseis aytes, oi politikoy periexomenoy, exoyn sxesh kai me kainoyrgia politikh se kapoioys tomeis h oxi;\nREPPAS: Aforoyn thn efarmogh toy programmatos mas, opws to exoyme ejaggeilei kai perilambanei ta panta.\nKIAOS: Kai oi ektimhseis htan omofwnes;\nREPPAS: Nai kai leme oti qa pame poly kala.\nkyber2html v1.05a run on Friday, 30 January 1998 - 18:54:16 UTC