Professor Jansen noted that this is a principal who is not someone who gives up. Professor Jansen called for a reality check and asked: what does it mean to teach and learn in a system in which the best say that they cannot do this anymore? How can people talk in profound terms about a scholarship of teaching when we are struggling to do very basic things? There are between 27,000 and 28,000 schools in South Africa struggling with issues of legacy that have not yet been addressed.