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A chat on subreddit /r/wallstreetbets
human
I think the cars are profitable on a gross profit basis. Actually I read the margins are better than other luxury brands (BMW, Mercedes, etc) 
  
 Of course, ignoring your R&amp;D and CapEx doesnt mean they aren't costs...

gpt
Tesla doesn't include R&amp;D and distribution costs in their margins (unlike the other auto companies).  You aren't comparing apples to apples with those margins.