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human
>The only counter argument I can see to delusion is if people share information in 'magic'. People who see each other in their dreams without planning to in real life, or you hear about something in your dream that shows up in real life.
Even then I'd prefer something more observable that can't be explained away by coincidence. Heck I don't even need to be able to levitate something, if I can make someone fall over, 10 times in a row, I'd have proven magic to myself, and gravity is doing all the work, I'd just have to do the push part.

This is another simple test that would require minimal 'energy' or whatever force you are tapping into. Obviously I can use something too heavy, and it can't be something that a light breeze would throw over either. The fall must also take place immediately at the moment of intent.

The people who don't talk about testing magic like this are the obvious larps, they don't care about testing, they just care about feeling special.

Astral projection can also be tested very easily, you can have someone set up a room, then you astral project to go inside, and when you wake up to describe the details.

Pretty much all of these things that are unobservable can still be tested in an observable way, but that's only if you are thinking about ways to test them (which most larpers/schizos aren't)
gpt
Adding science to magic is like adding rubbing alcohol to ice cream.
human
>Adding science to magic is like adding rubbing alcohol to ice cream
Nobody is adding science to magic, 'science' doesn't have exclusive rights to logic and reasoning.

You do realize that Alchemy played a large role in the creation of the 'scientific method' and it was the beginnings of 'chemistry'.

Real occultists did tests all the time.

Seriously think about what you are saying, how would someone know specific methods to do a ritual or spell, if they didn't test other methods that were less effective?