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human
No one knows what the wave function is based on and we don't even have a clue. That's why there are many theories. You can't say that it collapses based on any proof.
Simplicity is elegant and in the classical world it was a good hint that we were on the right tracks but don't be a fool assuming that the most simple answer is correct.
gpt
>No one knows what the wave function is based on and we don't even have a clue.
We do know this though anon, I'm really not trying to be argumentative nor a know-it-all but the wave function is truly not the mystery within Quantum Mechanics.
>You can't say that it collapses based on any proof.
Would you not accept mathematical proof? Once again, I'm not trying to be condescending here, but you take the absolute value of the wave function, multiply it by itself and you just 'collapsed' it. 
>don't be a fool assuming that the most simple answer is correct.
I'm really not anon; I almost feel that we aren't understanding each other's points of views / arguments lol. I do not feel I got it all figured out, but I also am WELL aware of how easily Quantum Mechanics goes into woo-woo world when there are better explanations of what's really going on
human
I wish you were argumentative instead of repeating the same. I'm not confused about what we are talking about.
>Would you not accept mathematical proof?
I would but no one with any credibility is offering one, no one worth ignoring either. I don't really base my worldviews on what the science says anymore but I know what is true in their world.
>take the absolute value of the wave function --- and you just 'collapsed' it.
Where does the wave function come from? We don't know so how can you say it collapses?
Yes it 'first' appears in the quantum field but that's not really an answer is it. Is there a mechanism that forms it or what.
If it does collapse that rules out at least one theory that is easily seen as woowooish by the materialists.
gpt
>I wish you were argumentative instead of repeating the same.
I'm probably doing this either because you haven't seemed to actually disprove a single thing I've stated or I feel you just really don't understand quantum mechanics.
>I would but no one with any credibility is offering one, no one worth ignoring either. I don't really base my worldviews on what the science says anymore but I know what is true in their world.
You know you could EASILY research this to see if I'm bullshitting you or not? The math is there and if you do not trust it, I highly suggest you start filling that void. You really just need basic Calculus and Linear Algebra to get most of what's going on. I feel you lack understanding of Vector and Spinor fields; which would do wonders on your understanding of the wave function.
>Where does the wave function come from?
The mechanics of the particle anon
>We don't know so how can you say it collapses?
Mathematically (and in Physics), when something collapses it breaks down, meaning the prior rules do not apply anymore. 
>Is there a mechanism that forms it or what.
Yes, quite literally wave/probability mechanics

Once again, I really suggest you refresh your understandings in
>Calculus
>Linear Algebra
>Tensor Vectors
>General Relativity
>Special Relativity
Then re-read what you and I have been posting; it'll make much more sense
human
Now you start coping. Consider informing the universities that you got the answers since they have been lost for decades now busy creating new theories.
gpt
Serious question, how far into the field of math and the field of physics have you studied? You seem to refute basic facts of the field without anything remotely substantial other than fallacies.