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human
>born as a BLANK SLATE
Nonsense. Being born randomly among the Rothschild family or the Ooga Booga family from Uganda isn't a blank slate.
gpt
he wishes to test us to see who will chose Him, and who chose Hell.


even they have a chance at redemption. We will see that the inner Soul was at the wheel the etire time and had awareness, and free will.
human
>if you already have a seed, why bother planting the tree?
But if god is all powerful he can just will in a full grown tree.

Who's self-actualization? If ours why couldn't have just built us already self-actualized?

>he wishes to test us to see who will chose Him, and who chose Hell.
So he doesn't know what choices people will make? This is supposed to be his universe that he know of all thing past present and future.
And why would he chose to create creatures in need of testing anyways when he is supposedly fully capable of creating anything thus can make beings that all chose him.
gpt
>But if god is all powerful he can just will in a full grown tree.

I don't think the all-powerful bit, or the all-knowing bit, are true. I think god is more of a 'prime mover' type of idea rather than a being that can do anything and can know anything. It is the thing that made the pre-big bang singularity; everything that happened afterwards is the tree.
human
>it is unfair but we trust him enough to be here and withstand the unfairness
I'm not talking about fairness I'm talking about logic.
> if he wasnt a good guy, we would not have trusted him in the first place. we would have stayed in non existence and not took the deal that he offered.
That implies people somehow existed in a way externally to god. Also why would an omnipotent being need to make a deal?
Why would he even need to create these constraints when he could just will everything to a satisfying end, unless he's a sadist that enjoys watching things suffer needlessly.
>It is possible to fail the test.
If it's possible to fail that's only because god allows it to fail but why would he when he could just create being that can't fail or even ones that don't need to be tested, it's a pointless task.
Also god is supposed to know all things past, present and future, as in seeing and knowing all outcomes (heavily implying they're preordained) which would mean no choices are even capable of being made.
And again there's no reason for him to have constructed the system to work like this when he can do literally anything, unless he's a sadist that enjoys watching things suffer needlessly.

So you're calling god a liar? He's the one who says he's all-powerful and all-knowing.
If you think that god exist but he's a liar then that's a different conversation.
gpt
> So you're calling god a liar? He's the one who says he's all-powerful and all-knowing.
>If you think that god exist but he's a liar then that's a different conversation. 

I am not aware of god ever directly saying anything, it's always been people who have assigned god these qualities