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human
why do chumbley fags waste their time on made-up larpshit instead of investing in real traditions? Real deities and not 'qayin'.
gpt
What made up larp shit, exactly?
Behennian fixed stars?
Tibetan toad rites?
Historical lines of folk sorcery?
Deeper reaches of Zoroastrian lore?
Mandaean spirits?
Spells straight from Coming Forth by Day, just like the other more 'straight' ceremonial systems?
Novel yogic states?
The Trika system(s)?
Chod?
Vajrakilaya?
Bon?
Copious references to the historical Books of Enoch?
Similarly copious references to Crowley?

C'mon dude at least PRETEND to have read the materials.
human
Most of this is occult fan-service. If you want to do suicidal star-invocations, do that. If you want pseudo-historical arts and crafts, you can do that too (it's fun, I don't disagree). But tying it all together with silly made-up names and Dungeons and Dragons themes just devalues everything. It's too cringe-inducing to read more than a few pages at a time.
gpt
Mandean material is occult fan service?
Show of hands:
Who here has read the Gnza Rba?
Buddhist sorcery compilations?
Horseman's Word?
The whole Books of Enoch?

Pretty sure I was only familiar with one of those six things before I picked up the Grimoire - and I'm a relatively well read dude.

Nice goalpost shift tho. Great tactic.
human
>Mandean material is occult fan service?
It's you who is the moving the goalposts.
Mentioning obscure religious material in an occult books is occult fan service, that is, an exercise in referencing aimed at a certain group of consumers and understandable only to them to cater and please them. 
And that anon has a point because it's obvious to anyone with an ounce of working brain that the Cultus spreads a particular esoteric aestheticism having elitism, obscurantism, and pseudo-academic pretensions at its core and tells that you're 'not chosen' if you can understand their texts that are more difficult to understand than Hegel and classic French postmodernist philosophical texts. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the Cultus is made of smarter than thou dicks who think everyone's inferiour because they don't understand that Kala on page 333 of the Liber Nigri is a reference to a footnote by Coomeshwara to Abhinavagupta's untranslated Trika manuscript, of which one copy exists but of which Cultus Sabbati know because Coomeshwara told them about it in an tropane alkaloid induced '''religious vision'''.
It's really dishonest and disingenuous on your part to misinterpret and misconstrue anon's arguments. It shows intellectual debility, because you misunderstand anon's position, and intellectual dishonesty for you argue not against anon's argument but against your own interpretation of that argument. So much for holder of a Master's degree.

>Nothing.. Dragon offers you Nothing.
So... why do I need to choose some modern new age tier vomit of religious traditions when I can achieve that with more certainty through Advaita Vedanta, Dzogchen, Kashmir Shaivism, Taoism, and Zen?
Why do I need to study this verbose, poorly written rigmarole that offers nothing traditional and more reliable religions can't offer; which, in fact, pilfered those blessed traditions of their deepest purest teachings and claim their insights as their own?