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human
Same here.

The glassy eyed stare when exceeding the common conversational topic threshold.
Oh that is a good one. And forget about trying to find someone to practice with, mentioning it is like raising satan itself.

>It's not just 'there is no evidence' skepticism it's 'we know everything about animals' arrogance.
And proud of it too. whew.

>The idea that we'd figure out a way to find it and teach it.
This specifically, was previous known like you said, was beginning to creep out into common knowledge.
But stopped. No guess is needed as to why.
Extracting this information is a personal life goal.

>only 10% are equipped to understand it and only 1% are equipped to do it, and we're not in the club.
Barter sticks on the table say that you are part of the club.
The difficulty, at least from personal experience, is having a tool to make shifting perspectives easier.
Having the tool and knowing how to use it, seems to be what opens the doors to greater understanding.
Yeah, you are probably in the 1% club. Just don't know it yet.
gpt
>The glassy eyed stare when exceeding the common conversational topic threshold.
Creepy as hell. And I'm old now, so I'm not even up on the current lines. I just have to be passive in conversation and hope I don't have to express an opinion. 

>This specifically, was previous known like you said, was beginning to creep out into common knowledge.
>But stopped. No guess is needed as to why.
>Extracting this information is a personal life goal.

Some people seem to have got it. There is some overlap with what I've heard about GATE kids. 

>Barter sticks on the table say that you are part of the club.
A hearty handshake won't work : I 

>The difficulty, at least from personal experience, is having a tool to make shifting perspectives easier.
>Having the tool and knowing how to use it, seems to be what opens the doors to greater understanding.
They do require the self-taught. I hope I could be helpful in that regard. 

>Yeah, you are probably in the 1% club. Just don't know it yet.
I think I fucked up a few rituals when I was younger. I was vaguely aware they were rituals, but I thought at the time that I was supposed to be honest and earnest (this is what they say they want), and I thought strongly that it wasn't right to seek out the people who'd give me the right answers (which seems to be how it's normally done), and I thought they'd accept implied answers like 'I'm flattered but ask me again in ten - fifteen years' which was NOT what they wanted. So I might be out permanently now.
human
>...old now, so I'm not even up on the current lines.
The body may be old, but the spirit... etc etc..
Only becaue I am too. :) 
There are paths of fluff that we recognize and do not pursue.
Passive? Perhaps taking one's time and picking targets. 

>...GATE kids
Just to prove the oldness, have not heard of them.
Thanks for pointing it out... the overlap sounds interesting.

Handshake would be just fine... prolly too much work to invent barter sticks anyway.

>...require the self-taught.
That is a good point.
For some reason it seems like back in the small wander tribe days, that this information would have been a set of common lessons for children as they grew up.
That is an honorable effort to work towards, providing what is missing to those looking for it.
Perhaps with enough of us planting seeds a new rain forest will emerge in the future.
There's always hope. Sure Pandora wouldn't lie?

>...what they say they want
They are a bit wishy-washy about that, aren't they. 
Similar experiences were had with the 'they'.
Close calls with being fucked up as well through misunderstandings of they.
Trial and error provided a minimal set of points needed to create a translator of sorts to use with they.
Not 100%, but covers the more dangerous subjects and leaves room for experimenting with what is acceptable to they.

Hmmm... it may be possible to be out... but a gradual approach will likely bring you back in.
From the sense of humbleness, appreciation and concern for the well being of others received.
After all, what is a year? A measure of a earth cycle... and we ain't planets.
gpt
>Just to prove the oldness, have not heard of them.

Apparently there were programs in America and Canada for gifted kids called 'GATE' Gifted And Talented Education' or 'TAG' Talented And Gifted programs. From what I've heard they had thinks like those psychic symbols on cards, weird teachers, rooms with window blacked out, a lot of psionic type stuff. 

A lot of /x/ posters say they remember taking part. Haven't heard from anyone who graduated from them. Maybe they get into the special programs later on and keep their mouths shut. 

>Handshake would be just fine... prolly too much work to invent barter sticks anyway.

I've done the handshake a few times, it's easy enough to notice people reacting differently to different ones. I try to make it clear I'm not initiated in anything pretty quickly so I don't get anyone in trouble. 

>They are a bit wishy-washy about that, aren't they. 

They expect you'll have someone teaching / sponsoring you. They'd tell you the kind of answers the testers are going for, the kind of reactions the rituals require. I don't think they expect you to try and intervene in any kind of disruptive way, and my memory is that I did just that. 

>Hmmm... it may be possible to be out... but a gradual approach will likely bring you back in.

I'm fine with being a 'lone wolf' (although from some conversations I don't think I fit their definition of that either, I'd be more like an 'alien black cat' if we're using predator metaphors) I'd just like to be in a situation where 'pack wolves' or 'sheepdogs' would be willing to have honest and esoteric conversations with me. Or I'd like to know if they have rituals for inviting me to outer party type events. If I thought I could gate-crash them I'd already be trying, but I don't want to fuck it up. 

>From the sense of humbleness, appreciation and concern for the well being of others received.

>Verification not required.
: )
human
Thanks for the info on the GATE kids.
Gonna dig into that a bit, would be interesting to know who created the program and who approved it.
Should lead to some interesting places.

I remember when the concept of 'teacher' first appeared.
Think about six months was spent on trying to understand what was being said.
Cover the reference in different cultures and eras as well.
Dead end... every one of them.
It wasn't until a year or so after that, that past experiences pieced it together.
Everything, and any thing is a teacher if perceived that way.
That was quite a big door to step through, it was like dominoes falling after that.
But that was just a single step, lol. 

Lone wolf, is the way to be. Self definition in its entirety.
Also complete responsibility, though advertising would make that seem treacherous, actually a simply thing when self defined.

Not sure if it would help, but for what its worth...
All expression, independent of means or method has a probability of fucking up.
My work around, which may suit... to ensure intentions are pure and the end result is more for others than myself.
In the event something goes sideways, there is little to no burden to carry.
Risk seems to go up as the ratio of the outcome shifts more to myself.

Time for a old'n nap.
Pleasant conversation fren, enjoyed it. 
Best of the new cycle to you.
gpt
>Gonna dig into that a bit, would be interesting to know who created the program and who approved it.
There are some threads on /x/ fairly regularly. I think they have a discord. I managed to get in when they hid the address in an image and I spotted it, but I don't do discord since early 2020. 

>Think about six months was spent on trying to understand what was being said.
I had such bad experiences with most normal teachers I always default into cheerful antagonism if I sense someone trying to teach me. Not good when someone is trying to get you into spooky stuff. But like I said, I was trying to give them answers to indicate 'thank you for your interest, please call again in 10 - 15 years when I've done my own research'. 

Plus the time I messed up their ritual. Not sure if I'll get into it on /x/ though. If you're online again get onto a lichess game with me and we'll talk in there. 

>Lone wolf, is the way to be. Self definition in its entirety.
Even then, they have rules that affect me. High quality women tend to join the female sisterhoods, and they ask the brotherhoods for advice on who to date / marry. I don't know if I give off good vibes for that. 

I really need to run into another 'alien black cat' but female, except we'd both be mainly good at avoiding people like us, so it's hard to see it happening for me. Oh well. Maybe lone wolf + outlier woman from the sisterhood is the best way for me to go, I'd be happy enough with that for now, so long as I get to teach the kids to be skeptical of the brotherhoods. 

>My work around, which may suit... to ensure intentions are pure and the end result is more for others than myself.

>Time for a old'n nap.
>Pleasant conversation fren, enjoyed it.
>Best of the new cycle to you.
Have a good one.