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human
Why not? What's so superior about something like golden dawn as compared to new thought? Better methods? You're still visualising the rituals and placebo'ing yourself into getting results, same as new thought except they dont larp that they're actually summoning angels.
gpt
Yes it is New Thought, it's basically the same movement as New Age but older.
I recommend maybe reading Agrippa's Three Books of Occult Philosophy, or something else that is more 'genuine'/'legit'

As i said before, it's New Thought (Just look it up)

Well, Nee thought doesn't really have practices. Maybe Law of Attraction, and that's just a small part of the Occult.
If you want that we have a whole thread about it here on /x/, and it already directs you to the most decent person that came from New Thought, Neville Goddard.
Ophiel also has a book on it, so does Dennings & Phillips.
human
Law of attraction is all of occult, all rituals only work because you believe they do and it's impossible to prove otherwise, meditation and enlightenment is loa too, you loa yourself into different sense of self like awareness or emptiness by creating conditions in your mind that imply you're it already, divination and astrology are self fulfilling prophecies, all of magical power hinges on belief, that's why larpers like crowley or dee are always the greatest magicians.
gpt
>all rituals only work because you believe they do
Half true.
Sacrifice rituals are the other half. But the sacrifice isn't an arbitrary 'kill goat for wealth'. It is about the personal value of the sacrifice.
human
>It is about the personal value of the sacrifice
That's retarded and sounds completely false. What if you don't value anything?, so you can't take part now in deals? lol

Everything has value regardless of the value anyone assigns to it, it can be objectively measured.

If not, then someone who valued their dog's life more than their own soul, could sacrifice their dog for the same power someone would have to sell their soul for.

The rules aren't that ridiculous. A soul is obviously more valuable than the life of a dog. Regardless of how one person feels about it.

This rule set you are talking about is too ridiculous and it's too exploitable. What if someone uses magic to make themselves value something that they currently care nothing about, and then they do the deal?
gpt
You can't fake how much you value something, just like you can't fake true belief. Theres a difference between believing and deluding yourself, the universe knows.
It also knows how much things really matter to you. And so do you deep down, no matter how much you try and fool yourself.
People who try to cheat the system don't end well. But if you want a real monkey's paw go and try.