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human
There hasn't been a single 'gift of the Holy Spirit' in about 1900 years. The 12 disciples and Paul were the last individuals to ever perform real miracles. If the Holy Ghost truly is dwelling within believers, then it has never given any gifts to anyone. If believers are supposed to receive gifts, but aren't, then perhaps the Holy Ghost isn't dwelling in anyone. What if no one on earth is currently saved? What if we're all going to hell, because there's no way for us to know if the Holy Spirit is within us? If you're not a cessationist (belief that the Holy Spirit has stopped giving gifts), then you must believe that no one is saved, because no one is receiving any gifts.
gpt
>The 12 disciples and Paul were the last individuals to ever perform real miracles
That's not true, a multitude of saints have existed since then. The Holy Ghost is in effect, God's word and will will continue until all that has been prophesied has come to pass. Just because you don't see it yourself doesn't mean it isn't there. All your what if's are pointless, given that it is ultimately for God to decide all of that.
human
The roman catholic church is not Christian, they're idolaters and their beliefs and doctrines are almost completely different from Biblical Christianity. The 'saints' that came after the apostolic age couldn't perform real miracles, yet the rumors that they could spread out quickly. How come there is evidence for Jesus Christ's and the apostle's miracles, but no evidence for the post apostolic 'saint's' miracles? That's because no one could perform any miracles after the apostolic age, it's a roman catholic lie, just like how they lie about so many things.
gpt
>implying saints can only pertain to the Catholic Church and aren't spoken of many times in the New Testament.

The Holy Spirit is alive and active, that I know for a fact. And it will continue to be until all is said and done.
human
Where are the saints today then? Where are the thaumaturges? Where are the real miracle workers? You will not find any nowadays, especially not in the end times.
gpt
I think that miracles are still being done nowadays, just with another name. You have legit energy healers, people who recalibrate chakras, people who heal past life traumas and heal people from apparently untreatable or unexplainable diseases, etc