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human
What's the difference between left hand magic and right hand magic. chaos and uhh.. order magic?
Does left hand bring some karmic consequences? Is this like good and evil?
gpt
Most folks who are into it believe that it's real because they had experiences that proved it to them. You shouldn't really base your beliefs on what others tell you, just start practicing yourself and see if you get results.
This is talking about low magick though, for high magick there's nothing to prove really.
'Does meditation exist?'
'Yes'
'Does it have effects on you'
'Yes'
'Then magic is real'


Don't think that dream is occult or anything.
You should read a bit on Carl Jung and dream interpretation.


That's more of a thing you get through experience.
Usually you can only see them through a black mirror or a scrying orb, during astral projection you can also see them.
I have seen them sometimes without those techniques, they were very 'shadow'-ey for me.


Left Hand Path and Right Hand Path are Hindu terms, RHP is socially acceptable whereas LHP isn't, in LHP they use the social unacceptability to achieve the same goal as the RHP.
That later got adopted in the west and LHP and RHP divide is between Satanism and groups that believe in a God.
Chaos Magick doesn't have an Order Magick equivalent, it was a system originating with Austin Osman Spare and in the 60s/70s developed into a simple, agnostic magick system that revolves around making sigils.
human
I'm . I definitely get that I shouldn't base my beliefs on the subjective experiences of others, and that's not my intent. I'm trying to go into this without any expectations, but I'm really curious nonetheless about what others have gained.
gpt
i think the main thing to gain is dissovling the ego complex and reforming it many times until you're no longer so attached to what happens to you after experiencing so many forms of death