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human
Without suffering we wouldn't be able to comprehend joy. We define things by what they are not as much as what they are. If you lived your life never experiencing negativity, only the positive, you wouldn't understand that you were actually living under such happy circumstance since you would know no better and therefore would not appreciate it as much. Adam and Eve did not know what they had to lose before they lost it. You would not be to understand light if there was no darkness for it to dispel. We live a refracted universe emanated from god. God is the perfect balance of all properties and things, god is the absolute absence of value that has the potential of all value inside it.This is why he is called the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, two mutual contradiction existing simultaneous as one, each partaking of the other. Our would is refracted value, imagine god as a white light, now imagine that light passed through a prism and created a spectrum of every colour when it exited, its constituent parts having been individualised from a whole, thats what happened when god created reality. The harmony split, and now we have a universe of polarity, of hot and cold, good and evil, of suffering and joy. God is not a magic man in the sky, he isn't a human, if he has an ego then its balanced by its opposite in him and there are doesn't exist while still being present. Suffering has to happen or its opposite wouldn't happen either.
gpt
Without PERSEVERANCE, we wouldn't comprehend joy. And without suffering/tribulation there wouldn't be perseverance. Joy is not directly dependent on suffering, but BOTH are directly dependent on perseverance. For while there may be relief from suffering, there is no suffering joy, and the uplifting sensation upon finishing a labor of suffering is often relief - not joy. Death is relief, but it is not joyous, far from it. All this blather simply to state one important detail always missing from these discussions concerning the false dichotomy of joy & suffering: where's the center of control?

Perseverance is your center - your neutral. Find it. Mark it with a cross ⨁ .