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human
I totally agree with you. Drugs induce delusional states where you feel a certain way. It's not some spiritual awakening or whatever. Your body is drugged. When I got food poisoning I also felt high after puking. What now. Should I do it because it can help me feel more spiritual? I doubt that. Most spiritual people with at least some evidence ( such as having dreams what comes true, predicting money, relationship problems, healing headaches with hands), all are against drugs and some never even used them. I obviously speak of people I actually know not YouTube proclaimed spiritual people who hit bong and just spews bs.
gpt
You're so ignorant it's depressing 
. You're telling me there's not a single person who's spiritual that recommends drugs????

Hilarious


I'm not defensive about it, I'm actually in a tolerance break right now. The guys jsut retarded
human
>You're so ignorant it's depressing
>You're telling me there's not a single person who's spiritual that recommends drugs????
1. What the hell does 'spiritual' mean?

Just sounds like a convenient label anyone can slap on themselves to feel special.

What 'feats' makes someone 'spiritual'?

If you can't list any observable, testable and repeatable 'feats' that being 'spiritual' has allowed you to do, then any random insect you find on the ground is just as spiritual as you, as there's just as much evidence for it's case as you have for yours.

2. Drugfags always miss the point, nobody is saying don't use drugs at all, use it recreationally, for your own enjoyment. But don't take a hallucinogenic drug, have hallucinations, and then pat yourself on the back for being 'spiritual' or 'enlightened', that's just you being delusional and dishonest with yourself. You know full well it's the drug causing those effects.

You would never take migraine medication when you have a headache, then immediately pray for the pain to subside, and when the migraine medication kicks in you start telling people you were healed by God and are specially chosen.

That's how retarded you drugfags look, it's like you literally pretend that you didn't take a drug that induces specific effects because you want to feel special.

Stop being delusional.
gpt
Man I don't know what your issue is 

I smoke weed and do psycheldics every now and then and maintain a very healthy spiritual practice which I develop more every day (used to do only tenryy minutes mediation now im up to an hour a day)

You can get lost with drugs true but they can help... Honetsly most normies don't even get anything out of them because they're so souless.
human
>You literally just used to word 'spiritual' retard
>Unless that wasn't you
Wasn't me

I will not even consider myself 'spiritual' or an 'occultist' until I've accomplished a 'feat' that I can observe, test and repeat at least 3 times.

Too men people lower the bar of those titles by setting the standards as low as ingesting a drug and sitting quietly and doing breathing exercises with their eyes closed. I'm sorry that's not enough.

Most people will never attain true spirituality because they aren't pursuing it to begin with, they are pursuing ego stroking, they are pursuing the FEELING of being enlightened and special.

Maybe I will never attain it either even though I take it more seriously, but I sure as hell won't play mind games with myself and try to convince myself I'm doing something special when I'm not.

If you don't keep your drug use and your 'practice' separate you'll never know 100% without a doubt if you are making any progress (assuming you are honest with yourself not just chasing an 'ego high')



>maintain a very healthy spiritual practice which I develop more every day (used to do only tenryy minutes mediation now im up to an hour a day)
What has this amounted to?

You see you don't do any actual testing, you've made the 'practice' the test in and of itself. You are saying you're developing more but what is your criteria for 'development', I'd bet my life it's 'well I FEEL like I'm developing' .

That doesn't mean anything. Increasing how long you can meditate is not a 'feat', the 'feat' is what your meditation allows you do to in terms of affecting physical reality.

>Honetsly most normies don't even get anything out of them because they're so souless.
Lol as expected, the 'I'm special' rhetoric comes out like clock work.
gpt
I've had tangible benefits 

Manifestions come true, I have premonitions in dreams and huge developments in my art have happend

This is all in sort due to my mindfulness practice and psycheldic drug use as they are amazing tools for increasing your self awerenss.