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human
>That suddenly doesn't sound as bad and taking this long to learn WILD is not unheard o
idk i've heard a lot of people give up and try lucid dreaming for years and then only get it down later

personally everyone i see who solved it is like 20 or around there, so this is just another aspect of my life where i'm humiliatingly old
gpt
Also, you need to stop with the self-loathing. I'm not passing any judgements, but at this point it might be one of the things that's holding you back. I'm not a psychologist, neither do I know you well enough to provide any constructive advice on that, but I do believe it needs to be done.
human
>college-related stress,
i had a lot of that. a lot of my insecurity over my age was caused by the fact that i started college later in life and graduated later and i had to compete with younger kids. now it's being replaced with work related stress now as well, where i am older than many of my coworkers as well. i just can't go anywhere without feeling like an old man

>I really don't think I'm THAT far ahead of you.
i think you are. 
>you could probably surpass most people here through sheer determination. 
i don't know about that. ultimately when i reach my goals i'll be surrounded by people who have done it better than me. this is the curse of being older.


>Also, you need to stop with the self-loathing.
having mental breakdowns like this is a regular occurrence lol and honestly it reflects my inner mental state
gpt
>i don't know about that. ultimately when i reach my goals i'll be surrounded by people who have done it better than me. this is the curse of being older.
At least you can rest assured that in lucid dreaming it doesn't matter at all, I can hardly imagine a less competitive activity. You will get it, eventually, and when it does happen, I assure you that nobody is going to care how old you are.
human
it doesn't, but i still feel like a loser anyways. just knowing that i'm a shitter compared to everyone else fucks with me. every single person can look at me and think to themselves 'at least i'm better off than him'
it also means that i just have that many less years to experience it, my body and mind will be worse at that age. at the end of the day a 40 year old man accomplishing things that people do on average at 20, it's hardly an accomplishment