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human
Hi anon. I'm  this chart right here, if you don't mind I've just got a few questions. Namely, I understand Mercury in Pisces in the 10th would put my vocation/occupation as a 'magical teacher' (as another anon interestingly put it, his analysis was pretty good), but, I'm struggling to figure out how my Taurus would be beneficial to that. I know it rules over Venus, as well as some other things I'm not fully understanding. Would Taurus in my chart be more or less the grounding/fortitude/virtue/patience (whatever term really) I have in my personality? I am stubborn, but open minded and love to talk about anything. I struggle to understand what teaching magic, or rather, being a 'magical teacher' would entail. I would say that intuition being high in my case doesn't count. What is interesting though, is my last name is a German word for 'Messenger', which kind of freaked me out when some anons gave me their insight. What say you? I know you can't give me all the answers of course, but your perspective is appreciated.
gpt
>Venus in domicile in Taurus in the twelfth, exactly conjunct Saturn
>Moon in the sign of her exaltation in Taurus in the twelfth, oppose Mars
>Mars in Scorpio in the sixth, oppose Moon
>Mercury in the sign of his depression in Pisces in the tenth, conjunct Sun
>Ruler of the tenth is Jupiter in the eleventh in Ares

I'm not fond of interpreting every Mercury in Pisces as a spiritual healer, nor am I fond of saying that the twelfth always represents spirituality and highly spiritual individuals, however in this specific case there is a degree of merit to it. In my experience as an astrologer, the twelfth house has consistently been the most negative and evil of the houses such that individuals with prominent twelfth house placements often describe feelings of being cursed. However, this is the most dignified and benefic twelfth house I have ever had the pleasure of interpreting personally, and this Mercury is ruling the first, and conjunct the Sun so that he is more emphasized in his spiritual capacities than usual. Therefore, in his specific case the twelfth house will be especially emphasized in its spiritual capacity, and such a man will utilize his intuition and magical aptitude for his work. 

However the twelfth is still the most troublesome house, and the tenth has more going on than just 'magical teacher' or whatever the last anon said, and so it requires a more delicate interpretation. Not to mention the influence of Mars on both of these matters, since he is in a position to commentate on the whole chart, and since he is in domicile in the house of his joy, he does have some good things to say.

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human


Now first the implications of the twelfth house.

The twelfth house represents experiences of isolation, confinement, restriction, and spiritual tumult. For these very reasons, although it often represents sharply negative experiences of depression, loss, addiction, exile, imprisonment, etc; it also can represent benefits from these conditions such that it can represent being away from the world and from others as an experience which enriches the native in a spiritual, material, or intellectual capacity. Thus the connection with spirituality as a topic since we often have to be away from others to reflect on ourselves and to grow, and to experience the invisible sides of ourselves and the world. Thus it represents both prisons and monasteries, both isolation and meditation, both the tragic and the magic. But as a general rule it tends towards the worse, as opposed to the ninth which as a general rule, tends towards the better.

As for his Mercury, this placement alone is not suggestive of a spiritual teacher, but rather is suggestive of one whose work concerns speechcraft and words. However since it is conjunct his Sun - which rules the third in this chart - and the degree of the midheaven falls in the ninth in Aquarius, ninth house themes and houseruler of Aquarius(Saturn) become relevant to career interpretation. Considering the placements of Saturn, Mercury, and the Sun, he very well might be a 'magical' or spiritual teacher of some kind. It is certainly possible, and certainly that is not an interpretation which I am totally averse to. However in a more broad sense, I would say that this person will have a career for which he is uniquely qualified for by his eloquence and great intellect, and it will have a certain philosophical and/or spiritual orientation to it. It does not necessarily have to mean he will be a spiritual teacher, and there are certainly likelier vocations fitting this description which he has already considered
gpt
So, in my circumstance, the 12th house is in Saturn which is its
>worst spot
and it's also stronger than usual on my chart. Fuck me. At least it emphasizes both the good and the bad of the 12th house, whatever the hell that'll entail in the near future.
>Mars influence on my chart
Yeah, the Scorpio placement I'm still trying to make heads or tails of, but you're putting some pieces together that are really interesting.

I'm a person who can be heavily indulgent in things that are easy to get addicted/overdo, like coffee, weed, TV, junk food etc. I've been phasing harmful habits and things like that out of my life, or moderating them. A big issue I describe is always never feeling like I truly connect with someone/anyone, despite 'relating' on things, unless they're weirdly specific or I sort of reciprocate that energy to them.
>this placement alone is not suggestive of a spiritual teacher, but rather is suggestive of one whose work concerns speechcraft and words
I actually take great pride in my poetry, my English, and my language skills in general. My writing style has been called 'weird' or 'annoyingly specific' before. I also am heavily invested in writing/composing/recording music, specifically vocals and vocal harmonies. I was in choir in High School and Church and was always fascinated by the human voice. Words mean a lot to me, and language equally so. I'd say a lot of my daily routine/studies/interests involve language and words. When coming to magic I was/still am chiefly interested in Sigil magic, which, given your analysis, I find ironic but hilarious.
human
>I actually take great pride in my poetry, my English, and my language skills in general. My writing style has been called 'weird' or 'annoyingly specific' before. I also am heavily invested in writing/composing/recording music, specifically vocals and vocal harmonies. I was in choir in High School and Church and was always fascinated by the human voice. Words mean a lot to me, and language equally so. I'd say a lot of my daily routine/studies/interests involve language and words.

That's a very literal delineation of having a preponderance of highly dignified Taurus placements. Taurus has been historically associated with the throat, and people who have Taurus Venus placements often become singers or vocalists when it's in conjunction with vocational indicators, which this one certainly is. Beyond that, it also has associations with art and speaking - literally speaking, as opposed to writing - and since it's exactly conjunct Saturn, which rules the MC, these things are likely to have a relationship to your career such that you could actually be known as a vocalist and do that as your vocation. 

Mercury in Pisces is the archetypal sign of the poet, and though it does not always mean that the person is inclined toward poetry, since it is in the twelfth and conjunct the Sun, it certainly does in this case and it brings these associations to the career. 

Considering the feedback you just gave me, I reckon these interests of yours are going to end up feeding into whatever particular vocation you end up finding in this life such that whatever you end up making your living off of could very well be poetry, songwriting, singing, lyricism, speaking and especially public speaking, and you could make a fair deal of money off it because Saturn is conjunct Venus and Jupiter is in the eleventh, both of which are signs that one's vocation will be highly profitable. Especially due to the financial indicators all being in good condition by their essential dignities.
gpt
I find it interesting I can channel my creativity of all things into something that could potentially be a thing that sets my livelihood up. I just think its weird because I feel like my understanding is in such a small area right now. The only thing I feel more equipped than the average person to discuss I'd say would be pretty much any humanity not involving magic, emphasis on philosophy and social science (econ, anthropology, semiotics, etc). Language is very very important to me and has a large relationship with how I developed my identity, I'd like to believe. People are very interesting in general. I also recently learned that my dad used to teach Bible Studies when he was religious, and that on his side of my family we have a fuckton of either veterans, settlers or otherwise people who helped found communities, especially communities of faith. On my moms side it seems to go back to when the Catholics/Protestants/Early Church started doing certain names, if I'm remembering right. It's just nothing but religious as fuck on both sides/veterans of wars, settlers in America (like founders of no name communities but still communities). It's weird. The ONLY time we seem to have been secular on either side of my family is the last 25-30ish years and I honestly don't know what spurred it.