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A chat on 4chan
human
>ok, so you have no actual understanding of how you are anchored to your body. 

Dude, I'm starting to wonder if you are a tad jealous I am able to spontaneously AP. Just because I don't subscribe to your preconceptions about AP doesn't mean I don't AP. Most of us learn to walk before we can learn to understand the biomechanics of it. 

>only valid scientific-method can be used to verify this.

This statement is incompatible with your other statement about how we are 'anchored' to our bodies. You think there is an astral body or some such thing that can be separated. That is not a scientifically testable hypothesis, because that body can't be seen or measured. Also, it's not a concept that is even needed to explain the AP experience. There are other possible explanations. 

Personally, I'm going with the idea that nothing leaves the body because I start with nonlocality, or the quantum universe model. Every part is embedded in every other part. You don't have to 'go' somewhere to have an experience of the other place. It is more akin to psychic viewing.

But in entering the state where an experience of another place is possible (AP), we are highly prone to just tuning in our own subconscious projections. Stopping these is akin to stopping thoughts during meditation. That's not easy. Doing it during AP state is even harder. 

As far as your test, I'm interested in seeing if it is possible to have an objective view of the world beyond the first half minute or so in my bedroom or hallway. I'm sure that that's how long my objective experience lasts before details start going 'off'. After that, I call it a lucid dream. But I'm only interested in seeing for myself. I'm not on a mission to prove it to you or to the world. 

Also, my method leads to sporadic experiences. The only way I could do a test is to visit a friend--unplanned--and ask them if they were doing what I saw them doing at that time. I can't say I'm going to AP at 3:00 AM and make it happen.
gpt
>This statement is incompatible with your other statement about how we are 'anchored' to our bodies. You think there is an astral body or some such thing that can be separated.
You are anchored to your body, bro..
when you leave your body, you are 'tethered' to it via a silver cord.
human
You're thinking in terms of three dimensional space time, where one thing is in one place while another thing is in another place. My working assumption is holographic universe theory, where every point is embedded in every other point. So we don't have to go somewhere else. When we're in regular consciousness, we're stuck in duality and the holographic model is inaccessible or irrelevant. In the AP state, I believe that the holographic model is more useful. So I don't really want to think in terms of 'going' some place with my astral body while my physical body stays behind, even though that's what feels to be happening. I would rather envision myself as something like the space navigators in Dune, where they stay in place and time-space distorts around them. I'm just going with that conceptualization because I suspect it might be more succesful in seeing other places during AP, without a dream taking over. If we're NOT actually going somewhere else, then conceptualizing going someplace else would seem to invite errors into the equation. Anyway, it's just something I want to play with. I can also practice it during meditation or slightly hypnagogic state: Just picturing my myself BEING with a friend or at their house rather than thinking I need to travel there. It's something I can get better and better at during waking hours without waiting for my next AP. If it is not successful at helping the AP, I'll find out eventually. 
As far as the astral body, I do believe from my own experience that we have an energetic body. I can feel it and direct energy within it. I feel it do its own thing before Ap happens. But it's not scientifically provable. We can't prove that we feel prana several inches or feet outside of our skin or that we feel energy coalescing before we exit. So my comment to that poster was that he was both insisting on scientific rigor regarding my experience while entertaining ideas that aren't scientifically proved.
gpt
some time ago an anon argued we needed to define 'astral-travel' as in visiting 'real' places in our environment like the local shops, nearby high-school girls locker-rooms, or even observing a civilization in a different star-system somewhere in deep-space as 'out-of-body-experiences' (OBE)...
And all other 'trippy-shit' in the 'astral-realm' as 'astral-travel'...
I like this definition difference because it removes all the loaded baggage that comes with 'astral'..
>You're thinking in terms of three dimensional space time, where one thing is in one place while another thing is in another place. My working assumption is holographic universe theory, where every point is embedded in every other point. So we don't have to go somewhere else. When we're in regular consciousness, we're stuck in duality and the holographic model is inaccessible or irrelevant. 
[I'll cut it short here, as you do already know what you posted]
this is what I term 'remote-viewing'... 
even this requires you to compare your experience with an actual location to know if you're good at it or its just a lucid-dream with your subconscious making shit up.
human
I'm only interested in 'astral travel' in so much as I should be able to view details that are objectifiably true. When my first experiences devolved into what were obvious lucid dreams, I was disappointed even though lucid dreams are cool in their own right. If I can't move to even the house next door without details becoming obviously false, then any other 'dimensions' or 'akashic records' I could explore in AP I would just assume to be projections of my subconscious mind. Mastering simple physical observations seems primary. 
So, I conceive of objective AP as like remote viewing, as you stated, but with the subjective experience that you are actually there. And, there is the added ingredient of whatever is happening with the energetic body before you pop out. It's very distinct, very predictable, and it carries over into a weird energized feeling even as you float about. So it's more than remote viewing, but should have the same connection to consensus reality. I guess I'd say AP is to remote viewing as what random hypnagogic imagery is to lucid dreaming.
gpt
open 'a' chakra..
the same pulled back to your body happens if you don't have enough neural-energy flowing to keep you connected to your body remotely.