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A chat on 4chan
human
kabbalah is being shilled here by jews from israel and they have openly admitted this in various threads

nice strawman though
gpt
This seems like the best place to ask. 

Is there a good alternative to the LBRP? I asked before a long time ago and the general response was 
>if it aint broke don't fix it
>get over your antisemitism
which was weird but this cleared it up some for me. 
human
Stephen 'Edred Thorsson' Flowers basically repurposed several Golden Dawn rituals when he was attempting to revitalize rune magic. Compare his Yew Working with the middle pillar or the Hail Working with the rose cross ritual. The one you're looking for is the Hammer Rite which is based on the LBRP.
gpt
the hammer rite feels like its based on a galdrsbrok spell where one invokes the 6 directions for protection, although its a christianized prayer where one invokes christ for protection
human
The Galdrbok no doubt had plenty of influence on his reconstructed Heathen magic. But beginning and ending with the qabalistic cross, oops, I mean hammer signing, pretty much gives away his main inspiration. I don't mean that as a criticism. I'm not trying to say he 'copied' the rituals. But he was obviously inspired by modern ritual technology that has worked for others and sought to bring that into his Heathen initiatory work.
gpt
i understand it but i disagree with the process. tbf if we are going to borrow elements from foreign religions we might as well borrow from religions related to ours like buddhism or hinduism or zoroastrianism. they have lots of similar concepts and ideas like a conflict between order and chaos, wrathful deities, and conquering all fear of death. copying things from mainstream western christianity makes at least some sense since alot of those rituals came from ancestral pagan cults anyways but when it comes to kabbalah im a bit wary