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human
Holy water is not what is actually stopping the 'demon', its the conviction of the person that is throwing it. Regular ass water would work just as well if not better because it isn't associated with an institution that molests children.
gpt
>Holy water is not what is actually stopping the 'demon', its the conviction of the person that is throwing it. Regular ass water would work just as well if not better because it isn't associated with an institution that molests children.
Ok, by that logic can't someone have that same level of conviction in their 'stare' (just looking at the demon) and laser beam the demon into submission lol

Like come on dude, it can't be that simple. These groups wouldn't have spent years creating exorcism rituals if expelling a demon was as simple as 'have conviction'.

I can tell you've never encountered a demon, I know I haven't, but you definitely sound like someone underestimating it's power.


>I’m looking for upgrades. Post your suggestions
Watch the Constantine movie (the old one with Keanu Reeves). It's my 2nd fav movie, always get chills watching it, always wanted to be 'that guy', but the world isn't such a magical place.

It will fill you with confidence, zeal and a sense of purpose.
human
>I can tell you've never encountered a demon, I know I haven't, but you definitely sound like someone underestimating it's power.

Shut the fuck up bitch /x/ is full of retards that just love telling me what I have experienced and what I haven't. I'll tell you why they spent years creating exorcism rituals. It's because you need to build up the conviction and lack of fear. It is theater that constructs the fearlessness and resolve necessary to counteract these things. They are immaterial, the primary weapons to use are immaterial also.

> and laser beam the demon into submission lol
Yes bitch. People are retarded now, people were retarded 500 years ago, and 1k years ago, that doesnt change.
gpt
>It's because you need to build up the conviction and lack of fear

>Yes bitch. People are retarded now, people were retarded 500 years ago, and 1k years ago, that doesnt change.
That contradicts their belief in God, sorry it doesn't make sense, you either believe or you don't. Also there's efficiency to consider, if I can just say 'begone' with conviction, or ramble on with some long incantation in Latin giving the demon time to harm or kill the possessed, then it's obvious what anyone would make 'the norm' for exorcisms.

Sorry, in my view humans are intelligent, very intelligent and we always advance things forward and improve them over time.

So if exorcisms are like they are now, I have to believe that it's because this is actually the most efficient and effective way.

You just sound arrogant asserting that these men were all cowards that had to 'build up conviction' (as if they didn't believe completely) and they're also stupid, and that's what exorcism don't involve simply looking at the possessed.

>It's literally kept in a vat that is blessed daily by priests for batisms at all catholic churches
Nobody should have to 'go through an organization' (which is just as bad as a 'pay wall') to get holy water.

The incantation or whatever should be freely available and publicly known. They should be spreading it around, now hoarding holy water and dangling it to get people to come to them lol.

>The blessing is done by a vessel (priest or pastor)
Once again, big contradiction in the religion. Gods blessing and power cannot be some elitist 'power source' hoarded by groups and 'doled out' to the 'select few'
>They teach this in school when priests and pastors become devoted so they can bless your water.
This should be public knowledge available to everyone, not restricted to priests.
human
>So if exorcisms are like they are now, I have to believe that it's because this is actually the most efficient and effective way.
Beg the question, won't you? It's not just Christians that are performing exorcisms or 'banishments,' there are and always have been many techniques; it's just that the technique that anon was proposing cuts to the bone of Christianity, so it cannot be adopted by clergy members if they want to be true to their system. It diverts the power from the incantations and culture and transfers it to the individual believer and his powers (perhaps vested in him by God, but nevertheless outside of the jurisdiction and rituals of the church).
gpt
This one gets it