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I would like to open a discussion on Left Hand Gnosticism.

The idea of gnosticism is good, but the goal in my opinion is really stupid.
Suffering is necessary. When you denounce and completely reject the material world because its the source of suffering and its bad, I think thats quite immature because suffering is necessary experience. Video games are fun because they present challenges. And constant goodness is not desireable in my opinion: when this is recreated on earth, its like the movie wall E, where everyone has been removed of inconvenience by technological advancement but they become obese and retarded (the energies will always balance out naturally in some way as you can see. So the key is to recreate this condition of the balancing of the scales in the most agreeable way).
In pleroma the conditions would be different of course, but still the *absence* of badness is not desirable, because an overconcentration of one type of energy throws off the balance.
And everything is cyclical, as we can see in Saturn/YHWH, he rules time and he is *always* present. There is the cycle of birth (jesus christ) and decay (yhwh), both are necessary for harmonious existence. 
So my goal as a “left hand gnostic”, is not to reject the material world, but to enjoy her fruits while not neglecting the psychical. And to enjoy the demiurge’s fruit you must also embrace her challenges with as much enthusiasm as you do her fruits, which I try to do as a virtuous left hand gnostic.
Lucifer, Jesus, and Saturn in my opinion are three sides of the same entity. Lucifer is the light bringer, and Saturn is the bringer of darkness, and both I call the “demiurge” because they are Gods of the Kenoma. 
Jesus Christ is Lucifer’s pleroman counterpart, and who came to earth to spread his Light to the Saturn worshipping Jews. Im running out of characters, so thats all i have to say for now.
gpt
I think suffering is directly related to consciousness. In the Bible suffering entered the world after fruit from the tree of knowledge was eaten. 

Biologically organisms evolve to overcome challenges. Sharks and crocodiles have never needed to evolve because they are already perfectly suited to their environments. 

By facing challenges in our lives we force ourselves to change and grow.