IRC log for #koha, 2016-04-25

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06:36 marcelr hi #koha
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06:48 reiveune hello
06:48 wahanui hello, reiveune
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06:55 alex_a bonjour
06:55 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:28 gaetan_B hello
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07:38 PJRB Good day. I have been struggling to resolve a "MARC bibliographic framework test" issue, and hope that someone in this forum can assist me.
07:39 PJRB I used the default MAR framework structure, and preparation for importing stock from our old library system, I created some new sub-fields under Koha tag 995. All existing and new sub-fields had constraints linked to Tab 10.  Under “Koha to MARC mapping” and the “items” section, all fields used link to subfields of tag 995.  However, When I run “MARC bibliographic framework test”, the only error I get is “item fields: ALL items fields MUST be ma
07:40 PJRB Can someone please suggest a way forward?
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09:06 * cait waves
09:22 cait ok... there is snow outside
09:22 cait that's somewhat unexpected
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09:40 cait ... and now it's sunshine
09:45 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:45 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 1.4°C (11:45 AM CEST on April 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
09:57 cait noone around?
10:27 magnuse cait: i thought it was just us getting snow :-)
10:27 magnuse maybe everyone else is snowed in
10:27 magnuse @wunder boo
10:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on April 25, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
10:27 cait we got real 'april weather' here
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10:27 cait already had snow, rain and sun
10:27 magnuse :-)
10:27 cait today
10:27 cait no snow on the ground, but it looked quite impressive while it lasted
10:28 magnuse cait: do you have a need for bug 14957?
10:28 cait yeah
10:28 magnuse or do you never import, change locally and then need to sheild some fields when you do a new import?
10:30 cait we never do that now - because it doesn't work
10:30 cait but it would be good in some situations if it did work
10:30 magnuse ok, so you found no workaround?
10:30 cait nope
10:30 cait it's a strict 'NO, DON'T DO THAT' now
10:30 cait for the libraries working with the union catlaog
10:31 cait because you never know when the record gets updated... reimported and then overwrites all local changes
10:31 magnuse gotcha, i'll tell my customer someone i place complete trust in said that
10:31 magnuse yeah
10:31 magnuse my customer wants to add local subjects
10:31 cait sounds common
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10:32 cait but they also import regularly from somewhere?
10:32 magnuse so they want to say "when this record is imported again, don't overwrite e.g. 653"
10:32 magnuse yeah, from the swedish libris catalogue
10:32 magnuse it's the same scenario Viktor wanted to solve with bug 14957
10:33 magnuse they wanted to know if there was some workaround while we wait for that bug to get into master
10:33 cait i don't know of any
10:34 cait it would be really nice to see that bug move
10:35 magnuse i don't think the conflicts are that bad, but i only had a quick glance
10:35 magnuse at the first patch
11:00 cait hey khall :)
11:00 khall mornin!
11:00 cait finally it gets more alive in here :)
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11:04 drojf hi #koha
11:05 * cait waves
11:10 magnuse kia ora khall and drojf
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11:15 magnuse kia ora ashimema
11:16 ashimema hi magnuse
11:18 * cait waves
11:23 cait everyone here for some last minute qa/testing? :)
11:25 magnuse when is the deadline again?
11:25 magnuse friday?
11:25 wahanui well, friday is pizzaday
11:25 magnuse @arewethereyet
11:25 huginn magnuse: YES!
11:25 magnuse oops
11:27 cait thursday
11:27 wahanui hmmm... thursday is pizza day
11:27 cait 28th
11:28 eythian[…]ent-a6996651.html <-- Bodø eh
11:29 magnuse spaces and non-ascii chars in itemtype codes, are they ok or should they be avoided like the plague?
11:29 magnuse yup, that's us :-)
11:34 cait i wouldn't use them
11:35 magnuse eythian: i'm not usually a great fan of the military, but that is a great story
11:35 cait itype codes are used for search
11:35 cait so a space might have influence on your results
11:36 magnuse true
11:37 eythian magnuse: it is :)
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11:39 oleonard Hi #koha
11:39 * cait waves
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11:55 cait hm
11:55 cait can someone else try and add an icon to an existing authorised_value?
11:55 cait i always get an error: thisauthosied value already exists
11:56 cait adding new ones works, just a problem with editing
11:56 marcelr cait: qa clash :) i was just looking at that one
11:56 cait ah, we should talk :)
11:56 cait i was just trying to see if the icons would still show up on advanced search
11:56 cait and then ran into a problem with editing auth values on  master
11:57 cait can you confirm?
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11:59 cait marcelr: are you using the feature? it appears not fully implemented
12:00 cait looking at bug 16167 now
12:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove prefs to drive authorised value images
12:07 cait marcelr ?
12:07 wahanui hmmm... marcelr is talking with tcohen about it
12:10 cait hm editing the auth_values now works perfectly fine
12:10 cait inwonder what the problemwas a few minutes ago :(
12:15 cait *sighs and moves on with testing*
12:20 oleonard cait: Ghosts.
12:20 cait something like that :)
12:20 cait i am a bit torn about the auth values patch
12:20 cait it states that right now it should work on opac detail - but not for me
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12:22 cait oleonard: did you try that out? the parts that should be working now? did it for you?
12:22 oleonard cait: I did not find that authorized values worked on opac detail before or after the patch
12:23 cait ah ok :)
12:23 cait after the other weirdness i am happy if that's not me
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12:27 cait oleonard: are you working on the css patch too? I think i need to retest that first because of the dependency
12:27 oleonard Yes
12:27 oleonard Right now.
12:27 wahanui right now is probably testing just somebody seeing if it works?
12:29 oleonard I notice that the problematic CSS path in UNIMARC_compact.xsl refers to a file in the OPAC which does not exist
12:29 tcohen bonjour!
12:29 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:29 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, CÃ³rdoba, Argentina is 8.3°C (9:29 AM ART on April 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
12:29 tcohen hi cait
12:29 cait oleonard: oh fun
12:30 cait i woder if UNIMARC_compact.xsl is in use?
12:32 oleonard catalogue/ appears to try to use it if you're using UNIMARC
12:35 cait hm but broken before and after then
12:44 oleonard kidclamp?
12:44 wahanui hmmm... kidclamp is going to talk to the sponsors and see what they think
12:44 kidclamp yessir?
12:45 kidclamp oleonard: sorry i mixed up staff/opac btw, Friday brain
12:45 oleonard Are you taking Bug 16334? I can work on it if not.
12:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16334 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot sort checkout search by name
12:45 kidclamp Go for it, and thanks!
12:45 oleonard I noticed it too and it bugged me
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12:54 kidclamp oleonard: for bug 14576 - what would be better than "Not an authorized value" or just leave it as the code?
12:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Allow arbitrary automatic update of location on checkin
12:54 kidclamp '(no description for this code)' maybe
12:59 oleonard "No description available" maybe?
13:00 kidclamp works for me
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13:09 cait could someone take another look at bug 6906 mybe?
13:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , show 'Borrower has previously issued $ITEM' alert on checkout
13:09 cait it seemed to come pretty close
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13:36 tcohen hi, again
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13:36 tcohen drojf++
13:36 drojf hm?
13:37 tcohen proposed for Packaging Manager :-D
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13:54 magnuse yeah, drojf++
13:58 cait1 drojf++
14:06 drojf either koha devs are lazy or there will be very few at the hackfests
14:06 drojf or they dont like my survey :P
14:06 oleonard Lazy. Definitely lazy.
14:10 cait1 isn't lazy seen as a dev quality?
14:10 cait1 bbiab
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15:47 tcohen ah c'mon
15:48 tcohen 14598 has gone too far. It was a sily bugfix for which I coded regression tests for preoviously un-tested functions
15:49 tcohen can we just leave all that requirements for further enhancements?
15:49 tcohen i mean c'mon!!
15:52 Joubu tcohen: you should not approach bugs with "itemtype" in the title
15:53 tcohen it is just that i'm not sure how we ended there
15:53 tcohen the logaction line was using the wrong variable
15:53 tcohen that's it
15:53 tcohen i wrote hundreds of lines of regression tests for that
15:53 tcohen how is it possible that we haven't delivered the bugfix?
15:54 tcohen I even think the bug itself should've been accepted without regression tests
15:54 tcohen or even the updatedatabase entry
15:59 tcohen bye
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16:08 pianohacker @later tell tcohen I would like to talk to you about plack if you're in later
16:08 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
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17:08 jcamins @later tell tcohen Bugs with logging items have always been problematic. There was one about the fact that items were being logged only with biblionumber that was outstanding for a very long time—years, I think—because of scope creep.
17:08 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
17:16 cait Joubu: is there a good way to test bug16254?
17:22 pianohacker bug 16254
17:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16254 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, Koha/Catmandu dependency clash
17:27 Joubu cait: is it the right bug#?
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17:34 Joubu bug 16154 I guess
17:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16154 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace CGI->param with CGI->multi_param in list context
17:34 Joubu cait: no there is no easy way to test it...
17:42 cait ah yeah sorry
17:42 cait you guessed the right one
17:42 cait i think i will follow oleoanard's steps and take a look at the files
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18:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12267 - Update DB Schema files <[…]9e4fe606e457511a2>
18:58 oleonard Bye #koha
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19:45 rangi morning
19:45 cait morning
19:49 rangi bag: ill rebase on master, and add that other patch too
19:49 bag sweet
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20:09 pianohacker rangi: I'm QAing the ES patches, and the tools are grumbling
20:10 pianohacker some of them I've fixed myself, minor style things, but two questions
20:10 rangi yup?
20:12 pianohacker you okay with a standard license header, (c) chris cormack 2016 on the test files? And in Koha/SE/ES/, can I replace return undef and @_[0] with return and $_[0]?
20:13 rangi Hmm I thought I had fixed the headers in later patches
20:13 pianohacker rangi: this is the .t's specifically
20:13 rangi yep if you want
20:13 rangi yeah, specifically those ones ;)
20:13 rangi https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12478
20:13 huginn Bug 12478: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Elasticsearch support for Koha
20:14 rangi the 2 patches on here
20:14 rangi https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=50291
20:14 rangi etc
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20:14 rangi now they have been signed off by nick, ill add them to the branch
20:15 pianohacker oh jeez, losing track of this branch/bug thing...
20:15 pianohacker rangi: will they be in sync after that?
20:15 rangi yup
20:15 rangi gimme 10 mins
20:15 pianohacker thanks much man
20:15 rangi bascially i put new patches on the bug, to get signed off, then put them on the branch when they are
20:16 bag yeah pianohacker everything should be on the branch that rangi is managing
20:17 rangi pianohacker: right, its got those 2 patches on it now
20:18 pianohacker @rangi++
20:18 huginn pianohacker: downloading the Perl source
20:18 pianohacker rangi++
20:21 cait pianohacker++ rangi++
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20:35 pianohacker rangi: any reason not to do the other (non-copyright changes) I mentioned above?
20:35 rangi nope
20:37 pianohacker cool thanks
20:47 pianohacker rangi/bag: I'm about to pass QA (with a followup) on all ~90 patches on the ES bug... I don't want to annihilate inboxes, should I just signoff-amend then force-push to the branch?
20:49 rangi hmm, the branch has probably moved since you grabbed it last
20:49 rangi its been rebased on master, and has 16248 on it
20:49 rangi force push will kill that, unless you want to grab it first, sign off and force push
20:50 pianohacker rangi: I just grabbed it after you posted those two patches
20:50 pianohacker I could push it as a new branch
20:50 rangi yep, i then did some more
20:50 pianohacker curse you and your productivity
20:50 pianohacker it's inconvenient
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21:10 drojf evening
21:11 rangi hi drojf
21:11 drojf hola rangi
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21:20 pianohacker rangi: looks like opac/ is lying around but unused?
21:21 rangi hmm you
21:21 rangi might be right
21:21 pianohacker quick grep didn't find any references to it, but wanted to confirm
21:21 rangi lets remove it or it will just get confusing, I think that was my first go, before eythian took over
21:24 rangi sorry drojf
21:24 rangi just answering now
21:24 rangi done, i love where it takes you when you submit :)
21:25 drojf ;)
21:27 Karl_H so I'm running unit tests and Cache.t says it expects 40 tests but only runs 37. Anyone have any idea why that might be?
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21:27 Karl_H thats the only test that fails, not sure if I'm missing a dependency somewhere or what
21:28 drojf ithere is probably some more info in that test?
21:33 Karl_H It just says "Bad Plan. You planned 40 tests but ran 37." If I change the number of expected tests to 37 it works
21:33 drojf how does one get editing access to the koha website? i come across minor errors from time to time, but it needs more energy to bug somebody about it than just fixing it. (not promising to fix all the stuff though. disclaim disclaim)
21:37 drojf Karl_H: if it does not say anything along the way (i guess you scrolled up to see?) i am out of ideas unfortunately. most funny option would be some tests were removed and the number not changed
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21:40 Karl_H Above the errors it also says there's a non-zero exit status of 255 as well
21:40 Karl_H that's everything :/
21:50 Karl_H well, I'll have to keep looking into it tomorrow. Thanks for responding though!
21:57 drojf quiet here. i spent the whole day in an ancient database, i'd like to be entertained now :)
22:02 pianohacker drojf: that's a wizzyrea question, I think
22:03 drojf about entertainment?
22:03 wizzyrea drojf:  just file a bug under the koha infrastructure
22:05 drojf wizzyrea: it often takes longer to do that than fix it. thats why i'm asking. but i will try to do
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22:24 pianohacker rangi: Okay, here's something odd..., which the QA tools use, can't load the mappings.yaml file, but YAML::Syck, which the elasticsearch.perl DB update script uses, can
22:25 rangi interesting
22:25 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
22:27 pianohacker I'm just going ahead and fixing the indentation, which is all it seems to need, but still odd
22:30 rangi yeah, weird
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22:45 drojf wizzyrea: i added a few things, most of which are probably enhancements. i tried to categorize, feel free to change if it's not appropriate
22:45 wizzyrea cool ty
22:47 rangi hm this is interesting
22:48 rangi
22:48 rangi the 11.30 presentation on day 3 ... I dont remember noticing that one before
22:48 wizzyrea oo
22:49 rangi im guessing remote presentation
22:50 drojf weren't you on the board to decide about it?
22:51 drojf also they allcapsed koha :P
22:53 drojf kohacon on the fiji islands would be nice. just thinking.
22:53 pianohacker rangi: okay, all the QA errors have been fixed and all the new tests finally pass
22:54 rangi yeah, i dont remember that being there, I may have just missed seeing it tho, it also might be a late replacement for someone who pulled out
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22:54 drojf the internet archive does not have the page
22:55 drojf maybe they changed title and added contributors
22:55 rangi thanks pianohacker
22:56 drojf it's awesome they got 5 people in for a 30 minutes talk though :)
22:56 rangi nope, not in the original one ... cool though
22:56 drojf what was the other?
22:57 rangi i think saudi one
22:57 drojf (and i mean that regarding 5 people, getting your institution to pay for travel is always hard)
22:58 drojf ah yes i vaguely remember that
22:58 rangi often this happens people do a talk submission, then can't get funding to travel
22:58 pianohacker rangi: force pushing now with signoffs and followups unless you have any objections
22:58 rangi all good
22:59 drojf yeah it's complicated. can't apply unless you are accepted,
22:59 rangi yup
22:59 drojf …still they can reject it
23:01 rangi drojf:[…]fiji/usp/DSC04690  <-- i've done some koha training in fiji
23:01 pianohacker bag: bug 12478
23:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , Elasticsearch support for Koha
23:02 drojf rangi: lacks the cool outside pics ;) did you train the people that are coming to greece?
23:03 rangi i doubt they will be coming
23:03 rangi most likely remote presenation
23:03 rangi but yep Doreen at least
23:04 rangi[…]kohafiji/dsc02213  <-- outside
23:04 drojf they so have to do a kohacon
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23:12 dcook Looks like the manual for 16.05/3.24 is up?
23:12 dcook
23:13 rangi http://translate.koha-communit[…]/en/html-desktop/ <-- i like this version better
23:14 dcook Ooooh. That looks much better
23:14 dcook Also doesn't reference 3.24 when it's 16.05...
23:14 rangi
23:14 rangi does there, so we will want to change that
23:15 dcook That's much nicer, rangi :)
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23:17 wizzyrea updated.
23:17 wizzyrea I can't do anything (except submit patches of course) about the url's of the version or what it says in the manual
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23:18 drab hi all
23:18 dcook wizzyrea: "the version formerly known as 3.24"? Too soon? :p
23:18 dcook hi drab
23:18 wizzyrea *shrug*
23:18 dcook I'm teasing a bit. I like it.
23:19 drab I'm running koha 3.22 and I think I found a bug, but wanted to check in before reporting, maybe there's something I'm missing
23:19 dcook drab: You can search at
23:19 dcook That should have all the bugs that are currently reported
23:20 dcook You can also ask here, which can be faster sometimes
23:20 drab yeah, already did, don't see it
23:20 dcook Cool. What's the bug?
23:21 drab the librarian was trying to prep some labels and "add an item" using
23:21 drab after doing a search with
23:21 drab in the result page generated by each item has a "add" button
23:21 drab s/button/link/
23:22 drab that link is generated in htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/e​n/modules/labels/
23:22 drab in all cases the link is cgi-bin/labels/label-xxxxx
23:22 drab but in the results it's /cgi-bin/barcodes/label-edit...
23:22 drab it's the only place where I could find /barcodes/
23:22 drab and that's a 404
23:22 drab I s/barcodes/labels/ and it worked fine for him
23:24 wizzyrea it works for me on master
23:24 wizzyrea what version of 3.22 are you on
23:24 drab with /barcodes/ ?
23:24 drab that dir just isn't there, koha was installed following the guidelines from repo package
23:25 drab sec
23:25 drab ii  koha-common                           3.22.04                             all          integrated (physical) library management system
23:26 wizzyrea cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-edit-batc​ < this is what 3.22.04 gives me on that screen for the add link.
23:26 drab[…]els/
23:26 drab that's the line I had to change
23:26 drab before it worked again
23:27 drab right, that doesn't work for me, I have to replace /barcodes/labels/
23:27 drab if I click that link I get a 404
23:27 drab which makes sense since there's no barcodes/ dir inside cgi-bin/koha/ in my install
23:27 drab could it be they unintalled some plugin or something that nuked that dir?
23:28 drab they didn't say anything about that, I asked, but you never know
23:28 drab they certainly do not have shell access
23:29 drab dpkg -L koha-common | grep barcodes -> empty result
23:29 wizzyrea clicking the link sends the itemnumber to the form on the previous pave
23:29 wizzyrea page
23:29 wizzyrea that's all it does.
23:29 drab right, it does that after I replace /barcodes/labels/
23:29 wizzyrea dunno, it works for me without that change.
23:30 drab ok
23:30 drab [25/Apr/2016:10:38:47 -0700] "GET /cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-edit-batch​.pl?op=add&batch_id=0&item_number=4153 HTTP/1.1" 404 12802 "-" "Mo
23:30 drab zilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/48.0.2564.116 Safari/537.36"
23:30 drab wizzyrea: do you have that directory in your cgi-bin/koha/ ?
23:30 rangi it shouldnt ever go there
23:30 rangi that could be anything
23:31 rangi the js is set to return false
23:31 rangi you shouldnt leave the page
23:31 wizzyrea ^
23:31 rangi onclick="add_item('[% text_field.field_value %]',[% batch_id %], '[% text_field.type %]'); return false"
23:31 rangi why that is not working is the question
23:31 dcook drab: What browser are you using?
23:31 rangi do you have js turned off?
23:32 rangi (or maybe check the console see if it is erroring)
23:32 dcook Older versions of IE don't always play nice with "return false"...
23:32 wizzyrea define older, that's important :P
23:32 wizzyrea there's a lot of "older" now
23:33 dcook wizzyrea: I can't recall, hehe. Probably 7 and maybe 8. I've looked at that 'return false' thing before..
23:33 wizzyrea I don't think the modern web would work on 7/8
23:33 dcook I suppose it depends on what part of it
23:34 dcook I was reading a thing about how Google tries to degrade gracefully wherever possible. I wouldn't be surprised if other major sites did as well.
23:35 wizzyrea moreover, if you're using 7 or 8, you're still probably running windows Vista.
23:35 dcook I think 7 works on XP
23:35 wizzyrea maybe you got lucky and got a windows 7 with IE 8
23:36 dcook I do have a VM for Windows 7 with IE 8. That must be more common than I think...
23:36 wizzyrea but MS is pretty much forcing people to win10
23:36 wizzyrea it's practically harassment
23:37 dcook I'd probably rather have people on a more up-to-date OS than the ancient ones. I haven't looked into all those win10 security/privacy issues though
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23:38 dcook I wonder if there is an IE tag... I should start one. No idea where this thing is
23:38 dcook drab: How're you going?
23:40 drab hi, was checking in again, I think I figured out what's going on, pebkac
23:40 wizzyrea woo for problem solving!
23:41 drab I don't quite understand why/how, but what I think is happening is that they closed the other window/opened link in new tab
23:42 drab if I just do the "normal" thing it works, yuo're right, it doesn't matter that it says /barcodes/
23:42 drab but if you open in a new window and close the original screen (maybe they were trying to maximize, not sure), then there's no parent and it follows the link
23:43 drab so I think they tried once, had that problem, reported it, I found the 404 in the apache log and thought that was the problem
23:43 drab instead of asking for an exact repro
23:43 drab I will ask tomorrow and see exactly what their workflow is
23:45 drab on a different note if you don't mind, they also reported/shown me a bunch of broken labels, which I can repro myself
23:45 drab I found this bug: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=10821
23:45 huginn Bug 10821: major, P1 - high, ---, cnighswonger, CLOSED WONTFIX, label pdf adding in strange breaking
23:46 drab but it's old and I'm not sure about the resolution. still my labels are broken the same exact way, line is split into two new lines with a leading . as described in the bug, or over 3 lines, one line per character
23:46 drab csv and xml are correct
23:46 drab exports*
23:49 dcook drab: Well done, drab :)
23:49 dcook Hmm, that is an interesting resolution..
23:50 rangi why?
23:50 rangi it was a problem in an upstream module, which has been fixed upstream?
23:50 wizzyrea problem was upstream from us, not our thing to fix
23:50 wizzyrea heh
23:50 dcook But has it been added in to Debian?
23:50 dcook Or do we need to make a bug report for Debian too to get that fix downstream?
23:50 rangi how is that possibly a koha bug? :)
23:50 wizzyrea ^
23:51 dcook Well, it affects Koha if it doesn't get into the OS distribution
23:51 rangi so does mysql
23:51 rangi you gotta draw a line somewhere
23:51 dcook I suppose so
23:51 wizzyrea Sometimes people see wontfix and think "OH HOW MEAN"
23:51 dcook I keep wondering what's going to happen when people using ICU start using Debian Jessie
23:52 dcook Because Zebra 2.0.59 doesn't work correctly for ICU
23:52 wizzyrea hard to fit "not our problem, and we draw the line" into a succinct status.
23:52 dcook It doesn't affect me, since we don't use Debian
23:52 dcook But I wonder about everyone else
23:52 drab it's cool, I get the drawing the line, I'm just not sure how to apply the fix myself. will dig into it, thanks
23:52 dcook Are we silently just going to pretend there isn't a problem with third-party software interacting with Koha?
23:53 rangi no, but we arent going to leave open bug reports we can't possibly ever fix either
23:53 dcook Agreed
23:53 dcook I'm not saying that we shouldn't close the bug report in Bugzilla.
23:53 dcook I'm just curious if the upstream fix is making it downstream
23:54 dcook I mean... it looks like Koha folk sent in the patch for CPAN
23:54 dcook I get the drawing the line in the sand...
23:54 rangi[…]allnumber-lc-perl
23:54 drab https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=10821
23:55 rangi its in stretch
23:55 dcook Especially as the idzebra maintainer hasn't replied to Robin's report from ages ago
23:55 drab whups, my bad, meant to paste in a browser
23:55 dcook rangi: I suppose I could've just looked instead of monologuing :p
23:55 dcook Too used to talking to the baby, I guess
23:56 dcook Hmm
23:56 dcook Don't really see it in the changelog but maybe it
23:56 dcook http://metadata.ftp-master.deb[…]_0.23-1_changelog
23:57 dcook No reports?[…]erl;dist=unstable
23:57 rangi[…]allnumber-lc-perl  you can always track it here
23:58 dcook Sweet. Was trying to find the right links..
23:58 dcook I'm always a fan of this one too:[…]umber-lc-perl.git
23:59 rangi idzebra are pretty insular
23:59 rangi it's their main fault
23:59 dcook Well, I'm guessing gregor hermann must've gotten an email from Dan or Galen and just did it that way?
23:59 dcook rangi: idzebra in Debian you mean?
23:59 rangi no in general
23:59 dcook Yeah?
