Objective vs. Subjective Reality


First a couple definitions…


Subjective Reality – what we perceive.







What does “almost” mean?


How does “almost” work?




22 Responses to Objective vs. Subjective Reality

  1. Alex Jones says:

    Heraclitus has probably beaten you to the conclusions, he says that all we can go by is what are common patterns in nature, for instance it is common that all things are changing. Heraclitus offers the opportunity in “common” that sometimes a result that is common may under certain circumstances do something else. It is common for instance that energy follows the second law of thermodynamics but at the quantum level this law gets broken as revealed in a recent scientific experiment.

    Heraclitus says a lot about the subjectivity of individual experience in nature, even in our reactions to it, for instance a fish lives in drinking seawater, but seawater is death to humans that drink it.

  2. RogerV says:

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  3. Ramesh says:

    Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change form one form to another. Does this not mean that energy never had a birth (beginning) and cannot have a death (ending) or be in a time line (as we know it in our reality). It simply “Is.”

    “I am John” could be read as “I am..” which confirms the knowledge that “I exist” and “John” as the persona (or form or version) of existence.

    No matter how you answer the question “Do you exist?” it will always confirm that you exists !! Since you cannot (by definition) experience non-existence, you cannot ‘not exist’, if you exist now you have and will always exist. Hence the “I am” (which seems to shares the same attribute of energy), has existed outside time and space and will always exist.

    The ever changing forms of existence (similar to the various forms that energy takes) come and go and are constructed within time and space.

    Energy and existence cannot be fragmented by time or space. Otherwise there would be a beginning and ending for the fragmented part. They are outside time and space (unlike our reality experience. Therefore consciousness ( which I equate with existence or self knowing energy) is the un-fragment-able whole and all there is.
    The fragmented appearance of the one whole un-fragmentable consciousness, happens only in the time-space frame work or the illusionary frame work created for purposes of experiencing in a field of inter-related opposites.

    The experience is real, but the rest of the stage on which the game is played is a simulation by consciousness itself changing (and appearing and disappearing as various forms) for experiencing itself in rich diversity. If it were not for this duality (fabricated) stage, experience would not be possible (only the knowing will be there or one will stop at “I am….” and not be able to go further to say John.

    The ‘Knowing existence’ is the first split from existence. That is from existence to “knowing existence”. At this point the duality has already been created between itself and the knowing self. The physical brain/mind contains the personality construct to segregate and separate (beliefs and definitions) so that a diverse set of experience can be had, by augmenting all experiences through the individuated personality construct. The individualization is achieved as an output of the persona or personality construct (thoughts, beliefs, definitions, feelings, emotions, actions and perceptions etc.)

    Can you critique and comment on this??

  4. Ramesh says:

    Continuing what I wrote on 10th September I have the following to add:

    Since one can only experience what exists (and conversely one cannot experience what does not exist) everything everybody experiences (be it physical experience, imaginative thoughts, ideas) must all already exist prior to the experience.

    If we assume this to be the case, it could support the idea that while everything ( let us call them frames of reality) exists in the now moment, the design of experience in a narrow area called “physical reality experience” is to experiencing them sequentially one after the other (as opposed to the confusion that could result if multiple things were experienced in the one moment).

    Consensus reality is generated by having all humans sample the frames consistently (almost fixed rate of frames per second) while psychological time is generated as an individuated sample rate that can be varied to some degree. The feeling of time arises out of the the sampling rate.

  5. Jackie says:

    The question was I thought,,,”Can We create the world just by looking at it??” I believe Yes We can..for example, now this may seem too very easy for everyone to accept. When you make a future board where you place all the pictures of what you want in your life.and everyday you look at it,,.then eventually you are supposed to get what you put on the board..that does work…
    I know I put a white Mercedes Benz on my board, now every time I go out I see a white new Mercedes….isn’t that creating the world by looking at it?.xo Jackie I see I am the first female to even join this conversation,,,

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  9. GREG HANSON says:

    Doesn’t the conclusion that “objective reality doesn’t exist” state an objective reality that proves itself false?

    • jim says:

      Very nice, Greg. I would have to correct myself and say that the underlying reality level may or may not be objective, but at some point, at the most fundamental layer of reality, it must be. However, our apparent physical reality is not at all objective. Make more sense?

  10. Charles says:

    Reality is subjective, we create our own reality by our thoughts. What you thought existed doesn’t exist, it’s all in your head. Nothing really exists, and it’s our consciousness that makes the realities of life, not matter. Objectivity isn’t proof in itself, if you can’t perceive it you have no reason to believe it. Science has proven things intersubjectively, it’s not objective. That’s proof. But we can’t perceive God, he therefore doesn’t exist. I rest my case.

    • Lance says:

      Just because we can’t perceive God does not mean he does not. We don’t “perceive” a radio wave, yet they do exist. There are lots of things we don’t perceive directly, but they do exist. Also, people have been having mystical, spiritual experiences for thousands of years. Some encounter a “presence” they can only describe as God. In Near Death Experiences people often encounter a “being of light” that they feel is God. These are perceptions, so would not therefore God exist? In addition, there are sound, logical, coherent philosophical arguments for the existence of God, especially Kalaam’s Cosmological Argument.

      • jim says:

        Excellent argument, Lance. It is so unfortunate that people disregard mystical experiences as bona fide evidence for something real, when all we really have is subjective experiences.

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  14. Mark says:

    Objective reality exists apart from any subjective experience of it. As Einstein said, the existence of the moon does not depend on a mouse on earth viewing it.

    • jim says:

      That is only an assumption. All evidence points to it not being true.

    • Ramesh says:

      Reality: That which exists independently and does not depend on anything else for its existence. This automatically implies that it is outside time and space and therefore is unborn, unlimited and not fragment-able by time or space. It is also unchanging. Example: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed is a scientific observation. Hence it is unborn, exists and cannot not-exist.

      The forms of energy is a phenomena appearing in space-time framework and is unreal. All forms are subject to birth and death are in space and time and not outside of it. Everything in time-space is an appearance.

      Unreal is that which changes and is therefore in time and space and fragmented by both. Appearances do not have an independent existence of their own. They have a conditional existence and once the conditions change they no longer exist. Example: Mirage

      Since any movements can only be known if there is something that does not move (or change can only be known if there is something unchanging), existence of “reality” is thus proved.

      Both real and unreal can be experienced. Hence the statement “the world that is seen in sensory perception is unreal (or an illusion) but it’s experience is real.”

      Once this is clearly understood there is no further debating required.

      The observer and the object observed are always entangled. See “Quantum Conspiracy” on u-tube for a detailed presentation. There is no such thing as a subjective reality or objective reality. There is consciousness without a subject or object and subject-object consciousness.


  15. saad ahmed says:

    Our reality is just a figment of our imagination, which is powered by our senses and how they are processed. But i am glad that i am not a platypus…

  16. Ruth says:

    Thank you for helping me to understand.

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