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joe, willie and me. if you want to join us, have a cup of coffee and join the conversation, go to and that does it for us this morning. chris janice picks up the coverage right now. >> thank you, mika, hello there, i am chris jansing, in for stephanie ruhle. fort night battle royale. both parties are breaking out the heavy hitters. both have something to work with. a new poll shows democrats with a nine-point advantage. even as president trump's job approval rating is at its highest level yet. trump and republicans are working to make a midterm issue out of immigration because of those thousands of migrants inching closer to the u.s. border. the administration continuing to threaten military force. but the desperate people show no signs of giving up. >> you know, we're going to fight, we're going to keep on going. we're not going to stop.
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>> killer excuse. the saudi narrative around the disappearance of "washington post" journalist jamal khashoggi continues to evolve. >> this was a rogue operation. they made a mistake when they killed jamal khashoggi in the consulate and they tried to cover up for it. these things unfortunately happen. >> while president trump seems conflicted on the findings, seems like pretty much every other lawmaker is not. >> i don't find this saudi account credible at all. >> do i think he did it, yes. >> it's insubtling to think a fist fight led to a dismemberment with a bone saw. >> you don't bring a bone saw to an accidental fist fight. >> we begin today with three of the most intriguing and influential figures in modern american politics. donald trump, barack obama and joe biden, all trying to put their party over the top in the midterms. i have a great team to help me break it all down.
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first, let me explain where things stand. this is one of those extraordinary days in american politics. first, you have president trump in the middle of his massive campaign swing, heading to texas tonight, to share a stage with his one-time political rival, ted cruz. this is just a start of a jam packed week for the president. which also includes wisconsin on wednesday. north carolina on friday, illinois on saturday. that would make at least 15 campaign stops this month alone. he says he already knows which way the midterms are going to go. >> i like where we stand in the election. you know, i think that blue wave is being rapidly shattered. you know, all the democrats want is power and they got this blue wave going. not looking like a blue wave. >> the president's hardly alone on the campaign trail. former president obama and former vice president biden both
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out there as well and they're hitting many of the very same states trump is. for example, obama is in nevada tonight. the president was there, just two days ago. there's also an obama rally in wisconsin on friday. again two days after the president holds his own rally. joe biden will be campaigning in three difference cities in florida tonight but over the weekend, he was talking to crowds in nevada. only about 400 miles from where the president was holding his own rally. thinking this could be a preview of 2020, well, the two men didn't disappoint. take a listen. >> these vows are being shredded by a president who's all by himself. it's all about donald. it's not about anything else. >> we call him one percent joe. remember what happened? and then obama came along and took him off of the trash heap and made him vice president. >> all this comes as the
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campaign calendar shrinks to just 15 days. a new poll shows both parties have some reason to be confident. democrats have more enthusiastic voters on their side. but republicans have the president. now with his highest approval rating ever among registered voters. the two biggest issues driving this campaign are health care and the economy. according to the poll, they are the most important factors in deciding how people vote. and the difference couldn't be more stark. democrats have an impressive 18-point vagadvantage on the question of which party would do a better job on health care. that matches the party's highest number on the issue in a decade. but for the economy, it's the republicans with a huge advantage. 43 to 28%. that's their best number ever on that issue. that dates back to the beginning of a poll in 1991.
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he offered this pitch over the weekend. >> we are going to be putting in and are studying deeply a major tax cut for middle income people. not for business at all. for middle income people. >> what is the time frame for that? >> i would say some time around the 1st of november, maybe before then. >> i want to bring in nbc's geoff bennett at the white house. good morning. what's the president talking about? i mean, is there going to be a tax cut ready to go in a matter of really just days? >> yeah, well, look it seems the president was dropping a new round of tax cuts as an october surprise. until you realize there's no chance of such a plan passing bfrg the midterms. since the house and senate are in recess through the election. but people close to the president tell me that's not the point. the reason why donald trump is talking about tax cuts and some gop leaders are pushing it is because they feel it's an important message that needs to be set. as you mentioned, the latest nbc
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"wall street journal" poll shows that voters give republicans the largest lead on the economy in the poll's history. there are some top republicans that feel president trump has been lackluster in selling the economic benefits of their agenda. so far, pushing this message that voting republican in the midterms means supporting him period. and this new tax cut proposal touches on what some establishment republicans see as a winning issue for the gop. one they should have been jumping on earlier in this cycle. that's the comme. i tried to get the official word from the white house about what the president meant in terms of timing. no response there. we know mnuchin said he had been working with t working with republicans to see if a tax cut will come. establishment republicans who might not be inclined to vote for donald trump the man, how he
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puts it, trump tax cuts, the idea of another round of trump tax cuts, could be what decides how these voters break come election day. >> i want to bring in my panel. yamie. mike petska, the slate's daily podcast. you've got trump, obama on the campaign trail. how unusual is this? former president, former vice president, what, less than two years into his coming into office, calling out the incumbent by name, we presume. >> well, it's of course very unusual for one president to attack another president. but what we know is of course that president trump is someone who's completely unprecedented who has changed all the rules, and as a result you have barack obama and the democrats trying their hardest to win these midterms because they understand democrats need to win these
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midterms. there's so many people i talked to on the campaign trail in the last week or so that talk about that. they talk about if you're a republican, the main motivating factor is the economy. it's president trump, there's so many people who don't even know the policy points of the republican running in their district. and then for democrats, it's all about kavanaugh still, because there's so many people upset that dr. ford and kavanaugh ended up in that sort of situation with those dueling hearings. there's this idea we want a check on president trump when you talk to democrats. i think it's still all about trump and all about people. >> what is that personality, who is that person i guess. the senator on "kacie d.c." last name talking about the future of the democratic party. >> who do you think right now is the leader of the democratic party? >> my wife kids me i might be
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perhaps the only person in the senate not running for president. we've been talking about health care. >> i'm still not hearing a name. >> pardon me? >> i'm not hearing a name. >> i'm telling you, you're going to hear lots of lots of names. >> i think he's right about that. i guess the question is does it matter. some people think it's obama. think it's biden. if they have a focused message on health care, is that what they really need? >> i don't think you need a party leader for the midterm election. we'll see what that means for the candidates. for the democrats, they want to make this election a referendum on the very unpopular health care law that the republicans tried to pass. you're seeing this weird trend in the polls, where the president's approval rating has gotten to one of its highest points during his term. but the approval rating is better than with the registered voteers than likely voters. normally in the midterm
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election, it's actually better for republicans. republicans have better turnout in the midterms. they rely historically on this base of upper income suburban voters. a lot of those voters, that's exactly who's been falling away in the trump era. you're seeing this unusual phenomenon where democrats do a little better. that's a group of people who are a little less likely. >> the key being a little, right? you do have president obatrump n he is going vote for whoever the republican is, fill in the blank, vote for me. in florida, the candidates were asked if he's a good role model. i want to play what they said. >> i don't actually read "the art of the deal" to my son mason. that's not his cup of tea. i was very passionate about moving our american embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. donald trump promised it and he followed through with it. so to me when you give your word
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and you follow through with it as an elected official, that's the model we're supposed to do. >> the question is whether or not he thinks president trump is a good role model for the children of florida. >> that's what i thought originally. i got confused. so no, he's not. donald trump is -- donald trump is weak. >> he can say donald trump is weak and people who are in his party could go on and on and on about the problems for donald trump. the point of fact is, we talked for a long time about his base being in the 30s. his approval rating is now up into -- well into the 40s. he's where president obama was at the same point. what's going on, mike? >> he won the debate. it's just pretty clear when asked is he a good role model. you can't answer that yet. >> you go out on to the campaign trail and talk to people, they will tell you republicans, independents, yes, i don't like
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he's on twitter too much. i don't like some of the things he says. but he's doing what he said he would do. >> the base, your base will like you. that's what makes them the base. so in terms of expanding the electorate and in the midterms, it's a little more fine grained than in the general election. but in terms of expanding the electorate, i think he has a large hill or all the republicans have a large hill to climb in front of them and that hill is named donald trump. the last poll shows he's more popular than he's been recently. they don't show he's popular. i think we've referred to these polls three or four times. people might come away with the impression, oh, he's now more popular than unpopular. >> he's still as popular as barack obama was, as bill clinton was. >> the point is, in 2014, barack obama, they kept him out of all these states. when barack obama was that popular, the conventional wisdom
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was you can't campaign for these people, you're so unpopular. >> maybe that argument is for the republicans. that they feel they have got a guy in the white house who's going to motivate people. >> the poll that shows trump at 47% approval, only 30% say they strongly approve. a very large number of voters say they approve of the president but they have reservations about that. so he has to go out to try to motivate those people. it's because he has to con vibs them whatever it was that drew them out in 2016 to come out and do that again. the problem is when he goes out and appears, he also energizes the people on the other side. hillary clinton isn't on the ballot. that was one of the main things that pushed out a lot of republicans that approve of the president but not strongly. they were going to vote for anybody else. hillary is even less on the ballot this year than trump is. >> weren't you just in west virginia? i mean, democrats thought they
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were going to have this big enthusiasm advantage. it has shrunk now. what do you make of what you see when you're out there? is it any different than what we're seeing in this poll? >> i think what's different when we go back to the idea of whether or not republicans want to see president trump as a role model, i got into several confrontationings wis with repu women. when i started asking them about president trump calling a woman "horse-face." whether or not they thought making fun of joe -- making fun of john mccain was appropriate. every single time, republicans got very angry and very confrontational. but it's because they don't want to defend those things. we know that it's wrong. but the economy's going well so we're going to keep sticking with donald trump. we knew who he was in 2016 -- >> why is he proposing this tax cut? >> i think he's proposing this
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tax cut mainly for what -- the same reason jeff said. he wants people talking about the economy. he wants people talking about what the next two years of a donald trump-led policies could be. people think if the house flips, that means he's not going to get that tax cut in. the democrats are very, very fired up. it is about health care for them. he said my children don't have health care. i don't have health care because i can't afford it so i'm just going to vote for the democrat in this race. so the health care is a huge motivating factor for people. >> we've only got about 30 seconds left. if the enthusiasm is as high as it is meant to be, i'm talking about both sides, does that lead, a, necessarily to huge turnout, and if so, who does that favor? >> i think it's unclear. normally you would say higher turnout is better for democrats. i think that convention is a little bit turned on its head.
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democrats are doing better with higher-income, suburban voters. so i think it's unclear. i think it depends where you are. in these rural districts. high turnout is good for him. i think for democrats, that might be different. in my diverse districts where they're hoping to get more hispanic turnout. >> i think donald trump proposed the tax cut because there's never any consequence to him saying something he wishes were true but necessarily isn't necessarily. so that's it. donald trump says things that are untethered to facts and then people vote on their gut. >> you guys are staying with us. yamich, thank you, good to see you. coming up, thousands of migrants continue their slow march through mexico towards the u.s. border. the administration is threatening a military response. but will anything deter these people so desperately searching for a safe place to live? we will go live to mexico next. but before we go, it could be a tense couple of days for
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yes, we are barely two weeks
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away from the midterms and republicans are hitting hard against the growing migrant caravan from central america. president trump tweeted, quote, every time you see a caravan or people illegally coming or attempting to come into our country illegally, think of and blame the democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic immigration laws. remember the midterms. so unfair to those who come in legally. the president of course continuing to blame democrats. in fact, of four tweets this morning, three of them were about the caravan. despite the majority the president holds in congress, he does hold the democrats to blame for the roughly 7,000 migrants that have crossed into mexico from guatemala. most of them fleeing violence and poverty and hoping eventually to make it to the u.s. msnbc's marianna artencio joins me from tapachula, mexico. where's the caravan now?
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are those all the folks with you? and are most of them trying to come to the u.s.? what's the plan now? >> chris, good morning to you. thousands of migrants from that caravan spent the night in this public park. it is the biggest city in the southern tip of mexico. yesterday, they walked 20 miles just to get here from the border between guatemala and mexico, all the way to this city. and we walked with them. since the very early morning. it was a difficult road. blazing hot sun. you saw thousands of men, women and children. little kids trying to keep up. mothers holding their newborns in their arms. and you also saw these small rural communities in mexico cheering them on. handing them water. it was small displays of solidarity in the midst of the despair that is bringing these people here. when you ask most of them where they ultimately want to go, many will tell you the united states. but others tell you they're not
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opposed to staying in mexico. they're just looking to get away from the extreme violence and the lack of economic opportunity that is plaguing them in central america. now, today, in this park, caravan organizers will hold a presser this morning. from there, they tell us they will march north. for little kids like this child who is 12, this journey toward a better life is only really just beginning. chris. >> mariana atencio who is with that caravan this morning, thank you so much. up next, saudi arabia's foreign minister now claiming that the killing of jamal khashoggi was a tremendous mistake by rogue operators. but u.s. lawmakers aren't buying that excuse except maybe the president is. his latest reaction might surprise you. but first, who thought this was a good idea? blue star line spending $500 million to make an exact replica
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this morning, turkish president erdogan is briefing his cabinet about the investigation into the death of jamal khashoggi and promises to reveal every detail of his killing in his speech to parliament tomorrow. over the weekend once again president trump shifted his tone on saudi arabia's role in khashoggi's death. telling "the washington post" obviously there's been deception and there's been lies. their stories are all over the place. but asked if he thought the crown prince ordered the killing, the president responded, nobody has told me he's responsible. we haven't reached that point. i haven't heard either way. and saudi officials continue to claim that the royal family played no role in the journalist's death. >> they have denied this. this was an operation that was a
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rogue operation. where individuals ended up exceeding the authorities and responsibilities they had. they made a mistake when they killed khashoggi in the consulate and they tried to cover up for it. >> lawmakers aren't buying it. >> what saudi arabia did was savage. it was evil. has to be condemned. >> what we don't want is a ruler that's going to be around for 40 years going around the world continuing to conduct operations like this. >> ultimately, the president is going to accept the crown prince's denials. but it's hard for me to imagine that these orders would have been carried out without the knowledge of the crown prince. >> there's no way 15 people were sent from saudi arabia to turkey to kill a dissident without the approval of the crown prince. >> nbc's chief global correspondent bill neely is in istanbul with the latest for us. the crown prince did call khashoggi's son over the weekend, we're told, as did the
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king, at least that is what i understand has been reported in saudi media. what can you tell us? >> yes, good morning. this is part of saudi arabia's pr effort. the prince called on his elder son to express their deep condolences. what they didn't tell us is sala is actually barred from leaving the country. he is banned from any international travel because of the writings his of father. once again, the saudis not coming up with the full story. and insincerity in their account. and that was true also of their story of what happened to jamal khashoggi himself. because first nothing happened. he just walked out the back door. then it was a fist fight and he died accidentally. now for the first time saudi arabia's foreign minister has used the word murder. premeditated killing. he said in that interview with
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fox news as khashoggi arrived at the koconsulate, what he's suggesting is there were men inside with the intention to kill him. of course, essayi ihe's saying rogue operation. and most of all, the crown prince didn't know anything about it. they're trying to create and keep a fire wall that protects the all powerful crown prince from any damage. but of course inside congress as you heard many people not buying it. they're not buying it internationally. as you said, an interesting shift in tone from president trump. who first of all said the saudi account was credible. and now he's saying there has been deception. there's been lies. but of course still saying saudi arabia is an important ally. chris. >> so we're going to have this presentation, i don't know if that's the right word from the turkish president tomorrow. he says he's going to disclose everything his country has uncovered about the killing. what are we expecting?
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will it include that audiotape? >> well, that's the big question. so yes, tomorrow morning, he will address parliament in ankara and he says he will give more details and, indeed, he's used the word "the naked" truth. does that mean allegedly the audio of the details of what happened to khashoggi? you know, what cards does he have? the investigation by his authorities is continuing. just today, they're interviewing another 28 people from the consulate about what they heard and what they saw. that's the thing, you know, president erdogan wants to squeeze the saudis. put as much pressure on them as possible. obviously his ultimate aim would be to weaken mohammed bin salman's power. but how does he want to play those cards? he's been talking to president trump.
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everyone's talking to everyone else. what is the deal that will be stitched up between everybody right now? so far, the turks are continuing this drip-drip of leaks, of videos, of details. and we will wait with interest to see what president erdogan says tomorrow. >> let's see what the turkish president has to say tomorrow. our president, president trump, continues to say this is an incredible ally. and he allows for the possibility that mbs did not order this death. can he hang in there with that story? >> well, i don't think it really matters to trump that much because he looks at our domestic policies and doesn't think it will affect it. he's cast his lot to such an extent with the saudis. we're almost treating saudi arabia like it's 2008 or 2004 and they have this huge sway
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over world oil supplies. there are two pillars of middle east policy and it's it's really and saudi arabia and he emboldened mbs. when mbs has this murder done in his name and, by the way, a fist fight that went wrong, the turks are saying -- >> just happened to bring a saw -- >> yes, a bone saw. we know that. also if there is a fist fight, that's still in the united states, felony murder. they don't have a written penal code in saudi arabia. saudi arabia is a really tough ally in terms of human rights. i don't think trump thinks the electorate will care about it. he thinks perhaps he can give his tap dance and skate on by with the only consequences being republicans and democrats in congress, do this and say bad boy. >> there does seem to be a bit of incredulity about this.
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they cited this from the story. he was really shocked there was such a big reaction to it. referring to mbs. that a person close to the royal court. he feels betrayed by the west. he said he will look elsewhere and will never forget how people turned against him before evidence was produced. josh, anything credible in that reaction or in the interview by the foreign minister of saudi arabia? >> the saudis need us more than we need the saudis -- >> that doesn't seem to be the message, though, we're getting from the president. >> it is not. this is the very stupid thing the president is doing here. the story from the saudis is ridiculous. i'm sure the president knows it's ridiculous. he just doesn't care because the president realizes. it's implausible deniability. but the problem is, our alliance with the saudis is an alliance of convenience. it's supposed to be transactional. the turks, what they realize
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here is the saudis have done something that creates a big problem for them. the turks i'm sure are trying to come up with the best transs transaction they can. the saudis could stop funding extremist mosques in europe -- >> well, jared kushner has made it a center piece of his middle east peace he was going to broker so easily. one of the most telling sentences, speaking of credibility, out of "the washington post" interview with the president, was him saying, of jared kushner and mbs, they're two young guys. jared doesn't know him well or anything. they're just two young people. they are the same age. they like each other, i believe. >> when we see the white house here not apparently trying to use this incident in order to get anything out of saudi arabia, maybe they are getting something out of saudi arabia, it's just something private, something financial, rather than something for the u.s. national interests. >> trump has said i have no business interest in saudi arabia but the saudis have
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business interest in him buying tens of millions of dollars worth of apartments. i want to highlight one thing about how mbs was hurt he didn't get due process. in saudi arabia -- >> there is no due process. >> you can be detained for years and they don't tell you what your crime is. >> they call and offer condolences to khashoggi's oldest son who, by the way, is under a travel ban and can't get out of the country. >> his feelings might be hurt by that too. >> thank you. coming up, last week was hectic on wall street but things could be getting worse before they get better after reports president trump wants china to suffer more from the tariffs. money, power, politics is next. what would it look like... ...if we listened more? could the right voice, the right set of words, bring us all just a little closer, get us to open up, even push us further? it could. if we took the time to listen.
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to that say president trump wants chinese leaders to feel more pain from his tariffs. what can you tell us? >> donald trump has this zero sum view of trade, that for 70-some odd years trade negotiations have been based on trade narrative. you negotiate and you both win. trump has this idea if he makes the chinese suffer more, if he increases tariffs, if he holds tariffs at a high level, that's bad for them and whatever's bad for them is good for us. so this trade war looks like it's going to just get worse before it gets worse. >> this message going out to xi ahead of that meeting, what sort of the white house and financial guy's head space at right now? >> by all accounts, this meeting is not a trade meeting, it's just a kinds of head of state having a cup of tea together. if trade is mentioned at all,
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it's going to be at a very superficial level. trade negotiators are really -- >> that's not stopped him in the past. he considers himself to be the expert on all things economy, right? >> true. when it comes to trade negotiations, if you look at what he did with nafta, he's quite good at delegating that to bob lighthouser, who's his chief trade negotiator and steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary. if there is to be any actual negotiation with the chinese, it's going to be those guys doing it and there's simply no time for them to make any progress between now and the g-20. >> let's talk about what you call the beginning of the trade war. how do you see this ultimately impacting american consumers? >> so tariffs which is trump's main weapon are taxes which are paid by american importers whenever they import chinese goods. when those american imports pay those taxes, that increases their costs for goods and they
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have to pass on those costs to consumers. so it's going to mean higher prices on the -- probably not a huge effect. we don't have to worry about runaway inflation. but it's bad for inports. it's bad for american companies, importers. >> just last week there were 169 lawmakers and some republicans in there as well, asking the president to allow some exclusions from this latest round. you have the midterms 15 days away. is there any sense this is going to play there? >> there are so many enormous issues surrounding the midterms which you've been talking about. like the idea that chinese trade negotiations are going to cause them to vote one way or the other. >> in a congressional district where jobs are depending on these companies, it could be a concern. >> it's conceivable. >> thank you very much for coming in. i like your jacket. >> thank you very much. up next, massive amounts of money being spent on the
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we've got some really stunning new numbers on midterm fund-raising. here's the headline. this is expected to become the first midterm election ever to surpass $5 billion in total spending. while democrats have slightly outraised republicans, the most recent campaign finance disclosure showed they had more money on hand, $337 million, compared to the democrats $285 million. so, with 15 days to go, could it come down to who has more money to spend? here to weigh in, founder and president of next gen america, tom stier, also a major donor to the democratic party. do those numbers make you nervous? >> no, i think that -- >> that the republicans have more -- >> chris, the republicans always have more money. i think there's a different question here. does the message get out? do people across the country hear the extremely stark difference between what this
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administration and its allies are proposing and what democrats stand for. because i strongly believe if americans hear that, they will understand there is a stark difference and it's really important and we'll get many more people to we'll get many more people to show up which i believe is the key question in november of 2018. >> and what does your gut tell you? you spendiare spending a lot of out there. every single election i ever covered was the year that the young people were going to come out. they were going to come out every single presidential election, midterms all all these voter mobilization. will they get out of bed and go to the polls? >> here's what we know. we know that in the primaries this year, they turn upped out where we were organizing between two and ten times what they turned out four years ago. we can see in terms of anecdotal evidence from the campuses we're on what students are doing and
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what nonstudents are doing. so yes, we believe that people between 18 and 35, which is the largest age cohort in the united states, most diverse age cohort in american history which has voted in the past at half the rate of other american citizens will in fact turn out at substantially greater numbers than ever before. >> if you are in one of those places where there is a competitive race and i've been out there, even more so than before when you look at $5 billion, you can't turn on the radio, you can't go on to facebook, you can't turn on the tv without getting inundated with ads. and american first policies which is this nonprofit has a million and a half bucks it is putting into a digital ad blitz that is going on in states where there are close competitive senate races and also house races as well. i want to play a little clip of the ad they have out there. >> he is a dangerous man! [ screaming ]
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>> they are picking up on the president's sort of liberal mob message. can that work? especially when you have a president who does bring out the base going everywhere it seems that there is a competitive race and repeating that over and over and over again. >> listen, this is a line that people have been using to put down broad based protests since the civil rights movement. this mob statement is something that segregationists used to justify strong police actions against completely legal nonviolent protests. so i look at this as an absolutely -- another republican move to try to in-flame people, to try to scare people, and that
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there is a discussion about their failed policies, there is a discussion about where they have gone where and why they have discriminated. and it is very clear that they can't stand actual conversation, what they have to do is try to scare people, inflame them and get them excited so that they can't focus on the fact that the republicans have failed. >> and yet as you put out your message time and time and time again the way a lot of people know is impeach trump, impeach trump. how much of it is about that and how much of it is gotv? because in the end as you say i haven't heard anybody who feels unequivocally that they can state okay it will be the democrats or the republican who gets out the vote. enthusiasm is there on both sides. but who is actually going to get their people out to vote. >> we obviously believe really strongly that that is the key question and that we will be the people. but let me explain why. if you listen to people in washington, d.c., they believe that 45% of americans vote in a
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midterm because historically that has been true. which means that over half of americans choose not to vote in a midterm election like the one coming up in two week. and our whole point is to get out and organize at a grass roots basis to talk to people about the issues they care the most about. and to make it -- to give them all the information, not just on the issues, but also where to vote, what they have to do to be registered -- to register, to engage them as much as possible and make it possible for them to participate in a completely different level. and that's what we expect to happen on november 6, 2018, is the american people making a choice between two very, very different visions of america and two very, very different visions about who is an american and who has the rights and dignity of american citizens. >> and really quickly, give me a scale of one to ten how confident are you about what is going to happen for the
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democrats 15 days from now. >> on a scale of one to ten, everybody has been wrong for years on this. what we believe the things that we are close on is that young people will turn out, that the people on our over 6 million list who normally don't turn out, two-thirds normally don't vote, will turn out and that in fact the american people will make a judgment about this administration which that it is corrupt, it is lawless and it is failed. >> tom steyer, thanks for coming in. and coming up, state and local election officials in georgia facing a lawsuit over the rat a which one county has been rejecting mail-in ballots. what is going on in the peach state? tee tee is now in session. and... adjourned. business loans for eligible card members up to fifty thousand dollars, decided in as little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it.
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you know he how we like to end this show. no matter what, this there is always good news somewhere.he h end this show. no matter what, this there is always good news somewhere. this morning we're celebrating a teen, 17, who made history on a recent flight out of south carolina they has special needs and a terminal illness, so she flies back and forth to cincinnati children's hospital. that sparked a dream to work as a flight attendant. and last week her wish was granted. her mom described it as a dream
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come true. that wraps up this hour. coming up right now, more news with my friend hallie jackson. >> i love that one. starting the monday off right. i am hallie jackson in washington where we're looking at head to head unliners unleashed on the campaign trail with just 15 days until the make or break midterms. president trump gets tough to help a guy he once nicknamed lying ted. but the democrats are hoping to steal the show. barack obama and vice president biden are out in nevada and florida today, what they need to do to make the blue wave materialize. and why new poll numbers show that might be harder. plus right now, that caravan of migrants pushing deeper into mexico with the number growing to more than 7,000 people. and now a new unfounded claim from pre


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