With Saskatchewan on board, all of Canada now offers abortion pills for free.

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relevantlife 16371 2019-06-08 15:06:56
Link: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/08/with-saskatchewan-on-board-all-of-canada-now-offers-abortion-pills-for-free/
flummoxh 1195 8m

Ah, Canada. Why can’t everybody be like you...?

bloatedplutocrat 333 54m

Because Rupert Murdoch.

Zomunieo 383 P 3h37m

Because Quebec, the separatist French province.

Because of Quebec nationalism, preserving Canadian content and identity is a national priority. This has led to more protectionist media regulation and Canadian content regulations, which kept Murdoch out.

In countries with a strong minority group, political leaders usually come the cultural crossroads. As such Canada's leaders usually come from Montreal, fluent in English and French, and are thus exposed to more liberal French thinking and generally ideas from outside the anglosphere.

ThrowawaysAtTheGates 177 5h2m

We're not really separatist anymore, but strongly nationalist would be correct. The rest of your analysis seems pretty on point to me.

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Makarzo123 -67 4h12m

Canadian identity is native not French or English 😂😂😂😂

Zomunieo 52 4h25m

Yes, but in realpolitik the English and French have almost all the political power.

Quebec opposed Energy East and that killed it.

BC First Nations oppose TMX but it's a foregone conclusion that it will be built on their unceded territory no matter how much they object.

tessany 29 4h43m

There’s a tanker ban bill that is making its way through the Canadian senate right now. If it goes through, it will kill the pipeline through northern BC. The province I live in is having a veritable shit fit over it (Alberta) and are threatening a constitution challenge if it doesn’t get killed.

(I am from northern BC and now live in AB, I do not support this line as there has been a few spills/accidents in northern BC the last few years that the oil companies are refusing to acknowledge/clean up. Also building these lines are not going to create the jobs that everybody thinks they will. They create short term construction jobs, they do not need people to run them.)

prismaticbeans 45 5h28m

Not really. Native people were here first in this place, but they were here before "Canada" existed. Many Native people's cultural identity is with their respective nations, or would be if "Canada" had not gone to great lengths to prevent that. "Canadian" identity is pretty complex and can't be boiled down to just one of its parent cultures.

galkasmash 19 G 5h18m

It really, truly depends on where you are in Canada as well that you are willing to associate with this too. I feel like we live in a bit of denial about native inclusion in our identity depending which part you're from. We have some populations in the West that we like to talk about in our national identity quite a bit. But when you're in Southwestern Ontario, or Saskatchewan where native populations tend to be more impoverished with poor living conditions on reservations and you're met with a racism we'd rather sweep under the rug regarding groups such as the Six Nations which tend to be heavily involved with organized urban crime in low income areas.

While this is anecdotal, I want to add it because this is my experience with the racism that exists and outsiders may not get a glimpse of it as neutral as possible. I grew up with many people from the Six Nations reserves, though I was a city kid, I was simply told to stay far as possible from befriending the majority of natives. Watched many flaunt weapons, bully other kids, and in general use intimidation to secure their roles in our schools. By highschool, I was mixed in with 5 buses from reserves and while those types existed and were the loudest of the group and noticeable, the majority of those kids just kept to themselves and my friend group became 50-50 split with reserve kids and city kids. We still had a race riot break out one year due to gang violence. I was told by my newfound reserve dwelling friends to never visit a reserve even if invited because it was dangerous, especially if people were drinking. We had one friend from Oneida who regularly shot at domestic dogs for fun while home, everyone was kind of too afraid to confront this. As a Southern Ontarian, I was pretty ingratiated with full out distancing racism, the kind of 'cross the street' behavior you wish you didn't do out of fear. It took me traveling, visiting the West Coast, seeing better funded reserves. Visiting the US and places like the worlds largest reservations in Montana where they had self-financing (Casino) to change my built-in racism. I am still scared for the most part to be involved with any of native ethnicity in my hometown area, but it is a poverty driven, societal and regional thing, not an outright prejudice of skin but circumstance. But I see celebrated tribes from regions doing better at negotiating with the government all the time and feel like that is the main identity we want to show the world of our First Nations. Ignoring things like Six Nations, Thunder Bay region, Saskatchewan, and the whole violence against women perpetuated in these communities. My pointed end stance of this whole anecdote to really take away is, it sucks. I do appreciate and respect the culture, heritage, and mixing of all our cultures that Canada should bring. But we're more open to that cultural exchange with like 20 other ethnicities before native in my own neighborhood because of crime biases and the flaunted 'immunity' card that gets dropped rather than many asian, african, or south american immigrants around who make for interesting conversations and fun as well.

PM-Dat_Ass -21 4h55m

There is a stupidly prominent french level of identity in Canadian law, up to and including the fact that I was taught French as a 2nd language because it is an "official" language. I don't have stats, but if you compared populations of Spanish speaking Americans to French speaking Canadians, I think the fact that Canada has a 2nd official language would seem fundamentally stupid.

Willy126 31 5h6m

30% of Canadians speak French. Does that not seem like enough to make it an official language? Especially since there are regions where French is the official provincial language. You cant really compare that to Spanish in the US which has many fewer native speakers (13%) and is not the sole official language anywhere.

What would Quebec do if English was the only federal official language? Just switch to English? That's not a solution at all. Having French as an official language (and representing that 30% of the population) just makes sense.

BlackDukeofBrunswick 15 5h6m

Not really, when you consider that for a long long time, French and English speakers were demographically equivalent. French speakers were there long before the English, and to pacify Quebec, which is mostly francophone, they chose to make a compromise as far as official language goes. The same debate goes on in Eastern Europe where there is a significant number of Russian speakers.

dw444 21 3h53m

Also, because Jeebus.

mygeorgeiscurious 138 3h47m

Don’t look into how our government treats aboriginal women lol

AAAlibi 22 2h31m

I don't think it will last if the CPCs win the election. They are basically like Canadian republicans, and they will repeal this immediately if they get into office in the next elections.

BlinkReanimated 248 3h0m

I hate this entire sentiment. Get your US politics out of my Canada. The current leader in SK is a conservative group, the current leader in like 4 out of the 10 provinces are conservative(some more fucking nutty than others), yet ALL provinces are following this policy of plan B pills.

I won't be voting for the Cons this fall for a variety of reasons, but get this fear mongering out of here, it's not healthy.

theizzeh 83 3h28m

I was like you but many conservative folks in politics are becoming more extreme. Scheer scares the crap out of me (a long with some MPs who want to ban abortion....)

dw444 84 4h14m

This is what people keep overlooking when parading the "not as bad as Republicans" line. Cons are getting more extreme by the day and Trumpism has a very real, very visible presence in Canada right now.

BlinkReanimated 17 3h34m

The issue is when you allow this dichotomy to fester it turns into a us vs them mentality.

"I don't care how bad my politician is, the other is still worse."

There are probably certain areas of the USA where a politician could be caught murdering someone and his voters would still be in favour, because of this mentality. The more we push this mentality, the more likely stupid people are to completely ignore the realities and vote for their party. Canada is slowly becoming this and statements like the one made only help to speed it along.

The original statement was also ignorantly or intentionally forgetting that the nuances of healthcare are dictated by the province. Even if Scheer wanted to overturn the idea of Plan B pills he couldn't, it's dictated by province. It's fear mongering through and through, protest Scheer on real policy, there's plenty of reasons to dislike him.

theizzeh 33 4h0m

The stuff that’s making me weary is that if the extreme right wing folks have 7 provinces and the feds, they can change the constitution.

I’m ready to fight and ensure no ones rights get fucked with but as a queer human, it’s heartbreaking to see my conservative family vote for people who believe I’m lesser and shouldn’t have rights because that same party promises to cut taxes.

I honestly miss having the right of centre or left of centre groups we had.

BlinkReanimated 4 4h6m

extreme right wing

No. I would say the extreme right has 1(2?), Alberta(Kenney with his serious anti-gay, pro corp, anti-worker problems). Ford is an idiot who will push nonsense anyways. The others are not extreme right, this is what I'm saying. Protest it when/if it comes up, but otherwise it's just fear based on US ideas, the more we intentionally divide the parties the more we have to worry.

theizzeh 14 4h12m

The parties are become more radical. There’s a few MPs that are wtf at this point.

The folks are getting more brazen at their talk of being anti-gay and pro-life, anti-immigrant.

And being loud about not tolerating it now will prevent it from spreading. Especially if you’re conservative, calling your parties and saying that if they start going down that track they will lose your vote.

BlinkReanimated 3 4h16m

This is what I'm saying, they're becoming more radical because of otherwise intelligent people festering ideas of fear. They're becoming more radical because we're deciding who to vote for based on US politics rather than Canadian policy. Stop festering that crap and the parties and followers will stop heading in that direction.

When you legitimately spread misinformation about the nuances of healthcare in Canada all it does is make people on the centre realize how stupid a statement it is and gives a win to the more radical conservatives.

Largely unrelated, but think of that Jussie Smollett thing, him (most likely) faking his hate crime gave a solid win to the right-wing. More people are going to question or even protest all hate-crimes going forward. This is what I'm getting at, if you're going to do something, do it honestly otherwise you'll fail.

dw444 1 4h20m

All you can do is vote for the least asshole-y option (NDP?). That's really the only way to fight the right, to vote for people who'd be as disgusted by them as you and I are, and would make their lives as difficult as possible if they wish to dedicate those lives to moving Canada further to the right. I can't vote this year in either Ontario or federal elections, but I will be able to in 2023 so until then people like you have to vote for people like me too.

theizzeh 3 4h34m

The other thing you can do, is make sure the other parties know that to get your vote they can’t be anti-women or anti-lgbtq

dw444 2 4h35m

And that point will be made by voting for parties that are openly and notoriously pro equality.

theizzeh 3 4h39m

Except the people who want anti-lgbtq and anti-abortion legislation are calling the politicians and saying they want this. You have to be just a vocal as them to try and shut down this race to radicalism

schwam_91 -3 4h33m

Scheer literally just said he would never open up the abortion issue in Canada. Do you even pay attention to anything? Literally just was in the news.

theizzeh 12 4h35m

He also stated he wouldn’t prevent his MPs from bringing up private member bills to bring up the issue. Do you even pay attention?

SentryTheFianna 74 5h16m

Side note, Plan B is different than the medical abortion pill, a common misconception. Plan B is over the counter in most places in Canada, say you have unprotected sex and the person with a penis doesn’t pull out fast enough, or the condom breaks or you b/c was compromised, you can take Plan B, it prevents the person with the uterus from releasing an egg so any sperm that might be kicking around can’t fertilize you. The abortion pill is a pill prescribed by a doctor to an already fertilized person to induce an abortion.

BlinkReanimated 17 5h18m

Thank you for informing me.

blond-max 42 3h15m

Yep, if anything, our conservatives line up closer to the Dems for most issues.

Left and right are very fluid concepts; the branding is misleading when used accorss regions. In Quebec politics for example, economic righter would be considered left ist or centrist in most of the ROC (and not forgetting the economic left being usually socially conservative)...

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Vell2401 21 4h43m

That, I’d assume, has a lot to do with the United States moving towards the right end of spectrum since Reagan. Our Democrats now are other countries’ Conservatives.

BlinkReanimated 10 3h20m

Exactly, and that even ignores provincial politics. The primary issue in Quebec is centred around Nationalism(Right)/Federalism(Left). It seeps into every discussion even this last election where the main talking point was over immigration the primary way to advertise that is to discuss the impact it has on "Franco-Canadian" culture(Nationalism/Right wing). This has extremely little to do with Abortion or Gay rights(two commonly contentious topics in the USA).

jarbraj 5 3h24m

I don’t think they are that fluid, it’s just that in America we’ve spent decades pushing the boundaries and changing terms so that the public thinks American dems and Republicans represent the left and right

Edit when I originally responded, the parent comment mentioned America

blond-max 8 3h55m

I don’t think they are that fluid

Well to keep with the example, Quebec's current leading party is (by Quebec standards) economically centrist, socially left and nationalist (which is usually considered right-minded) so...

Edit: and by most nations standards USA Dems and Reps are center-right and far-right respectively

dw444 4 4h12m


That is correct. Both the Conservative Party in the UK, and CDU in Germany would be the closest to the Democrats in their respective countries in terms of policies, yet both constitute the right wing half of their respective countries' political system.

jarbraj -1 4h13m

You can’t really be “socially left” and “nationalist.” Just because you agree with progressives on certain issues (gay marriage, weed, whatever) but also anti immigration and anti free trade you aren’t on the left.

Also why did you quote that part of what I said and then say something that has nothing to do with that?

BlinkReanimated 8 4h28m

Based on your post history I assume you're American. When he says nationalism in Quebec he means specifically franco-canadian nationalism, not the broader sense of nationalism. It's a relatively constant threat of Quebec(though it's died down in the past 10 years) is to push for separation. A significant portion of Quebec wants to push as much french culture through the province(and country) while at the same time downplaying English through the province(other cultures as well, but more tangentially). Free trade has little to do with it. Immigration is only effected as far as Quebec is concerned and as long as they're non-french immigrants.

jarbraj -4 4h29m

It doesn’t matter what country or area or state the nationalism represents, it still has a specific meaning. You haven’t argued against that in your post.

BlinkReanimated 9 4h32m

I'm not arguing anything, I'm explaining the nuances of Canadian Provincial politics. You obviously don't like that, you're american, Americans have a stupid political system with 0 space for nuance. Thank you for helping me push my core point. Let's not let Canada become the USA.

Though Quebec nationalists certainly have issues with racism, it's absolutely dwarfed by racism present through Red States, to the point that I'd probably feel safe referring to it as something else entirely.

Jreal10 0 3h46m

*The public thinks any party really gives a shit about them...

spicytacoo 11 4h28m

FYI: It's not plan B, it's abortion pills. They're not the same thing.

Complicated_Peanuts 5 3h59m

Even when our conservatives are at their most crazy, they usually can be convinced to listen to reason. Yes, they may implement some crazy policies, but they don't just go blanket crazy against everything, and actually have good ideas sometimes. (Note this sentence can be swapped with liberal and be equally accurate)

Each party has their shtick, but they don't go full crazy. People on both sides can agree the point is to move more steps forward than back, and each party has their method to get there. We have had UNANIMOUS bills pass our house still in 2019. That seems unheard of in America.

BlinkReanimated 7 4h8m

Exactly this. Keep the conversation open, don't close it off. The end product of the good/evil idea is the USA, it's a country where literally nothing happens unless it's some major dictatorial mess where ~40% are just outright opposed on any given day.

AAAlibi 5 4h31m

Dude. I'm Canadian. And very glad you're not going to be conned by the Cons.

OriginalMitchez 10 3h55m

But it's the individual provinces who decide whether or not to fund it. The provides manage their own health care as per the Constitution. So a new national government won't do much. The quest they could do is not allow the pill at all which is too big of a shit storm for them to attempt

AAAlibi 1 4h35m

I can see Ford and Scheer teaming up to cut that "fat" very quickly. Edit: and jaysus, didn't Kenney just get in in AB?

OriginalMitchez 3 5h11m

Possible, but the Sask government just did it yesterday, so I don't think it's that in danger (at least here)


Bullshit! I'm probably the most Conservative person here, the Conservative Party, which I am a member of (and have trouble with the current leader of it) WILL NOT repeal this. My province has a Conservative government. Guess what? It has free birth control! The Conservative Party will not, I repeat will not, repeal this. Know why? This is a provincial government responsibility. The federal Conservatives would not repeal it even if it was a federal responsibility.

AAAlibi 8 4h24m

Two words : Doug Ford.

You sound like a Trump voter before he got elected.


No, Ontario is part of Canada, and this post is all about Canada-Wide free birth control.

AAAlibi -1 4h34m

Sure. Thanks. I didn't notice what the conversation was about. I am unable to read. Me read real bad. Goofs.


Doug Ford has nothing to do with this. You obviously have no idea about what you are talking about

AAAlibi 1 4h39m

Sure. And now I'm going to go have a motorcycle ride, it's a beautiful day! Cheers hosers


Have fun

schwam_91 -3 4h35m

Doug Ford won because of two words. Kathleen Wynn

AAAlibi 10 4h38m

Oh, you're one of those, are you? Kathleen Wynne was a great premier. The facts speak for themselves, and I got better stuff to do today, gotta clean my motorcycle chain and get it in the road, it's a beautiful day! Cheers hosers.

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schwam_91 0 4h40m

She was literally loathed by the majority of Ontario by the end. Politics aside I dont think I've ever seen people get sick of someone that strongly other than ironically Doug ford

schwam_91 -1 4h30m

Says who? Canadian Republicans? What a lazy and ignorant statement.

AAAlibi 5 4h33m

Sure. Have you listened to Sheer lately?

_Sildenafil -2 3h57m

I see a Conservative victory in my province

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_Sildenafil 1 5h0m

What's CPC stand for here, because where I'm from Conservatives have already started the crusade against Trudeau, and it's working. More and more people are openly talking about going Conservative this election cycle. The only hope Trudeau's got at this point is Quebec. This is eastern shore though, Where are you talking from?

blond-max -9 3h16m

Yes, the Harper government completely ruined our international image /s

AAAlibi 1 4h29m

Yeah. It did. Oil sands. A lot of people laugh at Canada for being so stupid as to base its economy on an extremely polluting, finite resource.

I lived out of Canada for almost the entire Harper gov't, and he did not have a good reputation in the EU. A lot of his policies had foreign govts comparing Harper to Bush. We really lost a lot of international cachet with Harper. (TRIGGER WARNING) Thank god for Trudeau, he really upped our game and restored our reputation.

But you've probably never been outside of Canada, and likely don't listen to anything that goes on outside of your echo chamber, so be as sarcastic as you like. You look like an idiot.

SZEfdf21 -3 3h17m

because HAIL JESUS

codecx81 -5 3h40m

Thanks. I have no problems with people who want to walk across the largest undefended border in the world, could you convince everyone to leave your style of capitalism over there?

Because that is what is actually ruining the country.

CourageousWren 1012 3h46m

Of note: per article, the number of abortions did not go up when free abortion pills were offered. It simply changed the abortions that were already happening from more dangerous surgical procedures to less dangerous chemical interventions.

profanejusticecats 507 5h34m

The United States' minority "conservatives" still seem to believe that they can stop abortions. Sorry, folks. You only stop safe abortions. Abortions will continue, but now the mothers will die, too.

ProgrammingFlaw118 247 48m

Never been to Canada but all the things I read and hear about it kind of makes me want to live there. Idec if it's cold.

GreatCDNSeagull 137 1h37m

It can be cold, depending on where you live. The prairies get really cold in the winter, but get less snow than other provinces because it is so cold. The east coast can be cold and wet in winter, but we usually get more mild temperatures (still cold) and more snow and rain. Vancouver is rarely cold and they panic of they get significant snow. Ontario and Quebec are coldish and snowy in winter, and sometimes brutally hot in summer. If you ask me, the east coast is the best part, but I'm biased because I've lived here my whole life.

bleuscreenofdeath 126 2h39m


Them's fighting words. West coast is the best coast.

DwightFrank 28 3h48m

if you like music, kitchen parties, temperate climate, seafood, and people in general.... you could do a lot worse than Canada's east coast (from Toronto and would move in an instant if it weren't for family ties)

Chromatium1 22 3h21m

North coast 4 lyfe

linkhat 12 3h47m

South coast is where it's at

GenericFakeName1 26 5h5m

The prairie sucks don’t come here

themcjizzler 5 4h4m

Isnt the North coast mostly frozen?

Bestziggseuw 13 4h15m

Yup but I guess global warming is gonna have something to say about that

themcjizzler 4 4h24m

And global warming will kill us all, so the end result is the same no matter what we do.

GreatCDNSeagull 35 1h38m

But if you're going to visit, do it soon. Climate change has been a monster up here. Half the country is flooded, and the other half's on fire, with little hope of it stopping.

designerette 26 3h4m

The west is on fire and the east is flooding. The middle (Manitoba) somehow is doing alright so far.

distributedpoisson 16 3h21m

When your environment already faces such drastic change through the seasons, what's a little more

Source: live in Minnesota, which isn't that far south

mygeorgeiscurious 14 3h48m

We’re getting legit tornadoes and shit in Ottawa it’s ridiculous

OculusArcana 17 3h12m

I mean, central Alberta gets really cold for like, 2 weeks a year. By which I mean -40° with windchill. The rest of winter is usually somewhere around -20°C to -25°C which is... relatively fine, I guess?

thecake902 15 3h27m

Hello from NS fellow Atlantic Canadian!

sherryleebee 3 2h42m

You’re not biased. You’re correct.

dw444 42 4h23m

Idec if it's cold

I was like that. "Oh hey, how bad can it be, I survived a bunch of British winters after all and they're notoriously harsh". Turns out the British winter is like May in most Canadian cities.

LeSnipper 29 4h31m

For real, i lived in malaysia for 90% of my life (temperature hovers around 30°c all year long) and i was like how cold could canadas weather really be? A few layers of clothes can be enough right?

Answer: it wasnt and its really really really really really cold

We tend to downplay things if we havent experienced anything like it for ourselves

StrangeNubbs 32 1h34m

I'm from Saskatchewan. Although I'm living in Montreal. The biggest city in the province of Saskatchewan is Saskatoon at about 300,000 people. It gets to -40°c (-40°f) on occasion. However normal winter temperatures are around -20°C (-4°f). As for immigration I can only imagine it getting harder overtime. So get it while you can.

Proud that my home province made that decision. I'm not surprised that it was the last province though. It's a pretty conservative place. Lots of small towns and old people. I'm sorry for all the shit the US is going through right now.

SuperVancouverBC 15 5h16m

Vancouver isn't cold, just expensive

Mirewen15 14 2h28m

Meh, not too cold. I live in BC though, I've been wearing tank tops and shorts since April.

confused_assboy 15 4h53m

Dude, I live in Quebec and wore a jacket on Monday.

Mirewen15 6 5h10m

Oh hey! I just came back from a conference in Montreal on Thursday lol. Was a bit windy on Tuesday and Wednesday but Thursday was beautiful.

transmogrified 4 3h3m

Climate change should fix that right up.

jarbraj 1 3h25m

I wonder how hard it is to get a visa or whatever...

blond-max 0 3h18m

Actually, most Canadians live in hotter places than the States that share out border

Note: still gets colder in world comparison i guess :P

[deleted] 208 3h12m

Just as it's supposed to be - free contraception, free abortions, free plan b. Unwanted pregnancy is first and foremost a problem for poor women.

hatmatattack 53 5h18m

Plan B is not free and is actually quite expensive.

Ohfuckyeahdaddy 35 5h21m

I'm in Ontario, it's free. Where are you?

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hatmatattack 18 5h22m

Nova Scotia

thecake902 155 3h24m

I love my country and its rights and freedoms. One of our major political parties is trying to threaten that in the up coming election. Our current PM has made some mistakes during his term, and it has almost all Canadians upset in some way or another, jeopardizing their chances in this year's election. I'm so frustrated by our political climate right now.

Alyscupcakes 72 3h45m

If anyone brings up the mistakes the PM made, remind them that the Tories would have done the same.

thecake902 36 3h49m

And worse!


Trudeau making SOME mistakes? Good lord, try ALOT! And before you dismiss me as a Conservative sexist or whatever, screw Scheer too, just not as badly screwed as Trudeau

thecake902 19 4h2m

Oh I know. I'm unhappy with quite a lot of their choices. The only thing they actually did that they set out to do was the weed legalization, and that's only because the Supreme Court Ordered it. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the legal pot, but there were a lot more promises made that they did not deliever on. The pipeline garbage. Ugh.


Yep. I have a feeling that this election will get very polarizing, and the Conservatives will form a Minority Government

ladyoffate13 135 3h1m

Okay, now you guys are just showing off...

not_a_russian_troll9 115 1h32m

Glares at Alabama. Fucking inbred mouth breathers run that state.

BlinkReanimated 29 3h2m

And Sask is generally considered one of the more redneck areas of Canada, let that sink in.

_areyouwithme 10 3h30m

Hey, wasn't Tommy Douglas from Saskatchewan?

BlinkReanimated 6 4h2m

Sort of? He was Scottish and raised in Manitoba. He pushed ideas of unions, workers rights and social programs. For a province primarily made up of post-war farmers the ideas resonated strongly. Still considered redneck regardless of which individuals have led there.

hotterthanahandjob 8 4h40m

Sask boy here. You're absolutely right. Alberta too.

codecx81 18 3h42m

"In August 2018, after the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling that blocked the Alabama Unborn Child Protection from Dismemberment Act, Kay Ivey, Governor of Alabama said that

"we should not let this discourage our steadfast commitment to protect the lives of the unborn, even if that means taking this case to the U.S. Supreme Court."

She added that the ruling "clearly demonstrates why we need conservative justices on the Supreme Court"

and expressed her support for the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.(citation)

On May 15, 2019, Ivey signed House Bill 314 criminalizing abortion as of November 2019 except in cases where the mother's life is threatened or the fetus may not survive, with prison sentences of up to 99 years mandated for physicians performing such surgery.(citation) The bill intentionally contradicts the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Roe v. Wade that laws banning abortion before fetal viability are unconstitutional, and is expected to be challenged in court.

Only a true moron picks a fight against a civil liberty dictated from the federal level.

WinnebagoPeople 17 4h40m

That's because they're going after Roe v. Wade. They made bill incredibly harsh so that it would be challenged.

perusingpergatory 115 5h2m

Meanwhile in America we're going back to arguing about whether or not women are actually people.

professorBonghitz613 57 3h18m

On behalf of all Canadians, Alabama refugees are more than welcome.

Simple215 26 4h45m

I'm from Georgia, can I come?

K-Dog13 20 4h36m

You clearly haven't dealt with many people from Alabama lol.

Shocktocaulk 0 5h8m

You don't speak for all canadians

discourius 28 3h34m

I am not on any side of the abortion issue that has been tossed in the blender of horse shit that is American politics. However, you are going to find that many nations that have a universal healthcare initiative are going to be pro abortion to keep down the costs of long term care for unwanted children and generally less healthy children due to lifestyle and socioeconomic situations.

KVirello 27 5h28m

Meanwhile in the "land of the free"...

TrumpPrisonPrison 27 6h36m

As an American, I would honestly vote to allow Canada to take over at this point.

BigBro2Lilsis 21 3h29m

Plan B is not an abortion pill.

XediDC 34 4h13m

I was about to post agreeing about not calling Plan B and "abortion"...but reading in the article, this appears to be talking about the drug Mifegymiso, which is a combination of mifepristone and misoprostol.

That is not Plan B (levonorgestrel/progesterone) but an actual early pregnancy medical abortion drug. (Partner had to use similar for an ectopic. It....sucks.)

Patient info brochure I found, while researching: https://www.shorecentre.ca/wp-content/uploads/NEW-Mifegymiso-Information-Brochure-min.pdf

That this would (not) be possible in the US, I didn't even thing it could not be something like Plan B. (Yes, I do support the Canadian approach, just wanted to point out the difference.)

Alyscupcakes 16 3h48m


For those wanting to know more information about the drug being provided for free.

dramakween101 10 3h33m

I don't think it mentions that, tbh?

BigBro2Lilsis 4 3h35m

I keep seeing people here bring up plan b.

Alexandria_Scott 19 3h16m

This is amazing news

mellysbellys 17 5h16m

How about free birth control pills?

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HellsMalice 5 4h1m

Yeah that sounds like us

taylor-reddit 4 4h44m

If I were planning on having a family I would want to move there.

NFRNL13 3 3h27m

It's a pill? Where's the spongebob future meme when you need it?

FreeBeans 51 4h18m

Yes, early abortion has been done with a pill for years and years now. It's republican propaganda that makes people think it's some sort of crazy surgery.

NFRNL13 14 4h19m

I don't keep up on the tech since I'm dumb, so thank you!

foul_dwimmerlaik 22 4h55m

If you're earlier than (I think) 9 weeks yeah, you take a pill, sometimes two, and go home and have the mother of all periods.

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greenviolet 23 4h1m

It sounds like you are talking about Plan B - which is considered a contraceptive.

squashpotato 9 3h59m

They are covered (free if you have a provincial medical card) in British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Yukon according to this http://www.mifegymiso.com/take-action-cost-coverage. Otherwise you have to pay all or part of the cost out of pocket.

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_Snow-dog_ -32 3h59m

k now lest stop destroying our planet so i don't have to tell my 3 years old that we are all going to be dead pretty soon :D

Drouzen -45 3h19m

Next they will give free free marijuana for every abortion

squashpotato 23 3h52m

Yes, please!

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SpeculatesWildly 34 4h54m

Great, keep having children so we can sacrifice them in foreign wars.

millervt 8 5h11m

which won't happen of course. duh

dedwards024 -66 1h58m

Alabama’s second string players could take on that whole country