FOIA Fun– No Record of Birth in United States Found?!

This FOIA request was sent out to determine exactly where the presumption of US citizenship comes from, in regard to a man.


This response was received:

FOIA DHS response redacted

That means that the doctrine of jus sanguinis (law of blood) must be the only way he received US citizenship at birth.


Don’t Believe in God? There’s A Provision For That When Under Oath.

“§ 11-4.  Affirmation in lieu of oath.

When a person to be sworn shall have conscientious scruples against taking an oath in the manner prescribed by G.S. 11-2, 11-3, or 11-7, he shall be permitted to be affirmed. In all cases the words of the affirmation shall be the same as the words of the prescribed oath, except that the word “affirm” shall be substituted for the word “swear” and the words “so help me God” shall be deleted. (1777, c. 108, s. 4, P.R.; c. 115, s. 42, P.R.; 1819, c. 1019, P.R.; 1821, c. 1112, P.R.; R.C., c. 76, s. 3; Code, s. 3311; Rev., s. 2356; C.S., s. 3191; 1985, c. 756, s. 3.)”

“In The United States” Does Not Refer To Actual Location

From Part 7 of the US Foreign Affairs Manual:
A child born in an immigration detention center physically
located in
the United States is considered to have been born in the United States
and be subject to its jurisdiction. This is so even if the child’s parents
have not been legally admitted to the United States and, for
immigration purposes, may be viewed
as not being in the United
So you can be in the United States but arguably not IN the United States.  You know– in it, but not IN it.

Birth Certificate Vs. Certificate Of Live Birth


“Difference Between Birth Certificate And Certificate Of Live Birth


“Hospital Record of Birth: Certificate of Live Birth”




“Official Government Issued Record of Birth: Birth Certificate”


