'She Just Wanted to Get Her Upset': Tamra Judge Says What Gina Did to Shannon 'Wasn't Cool At All'
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After finding herself in the middle of a "she-said, she-said" war between Shannon and Gina, Tamra tells TooFab how she really feels about the situation -- and who she thinks was wrong.

The drama that goes down on any "Real Housewives" franchise is often hard to follow. It's a lot of backstabbing, shit-talking and pettiness that most of us haven't seen since high school.

What you're about to read is no different, but what service would TooFab be doing if we didn't tell you what Tamra Judge told us about that insanely petty conversation that Gina Kirschenheiter had with Shannon Beador behind her back?

If you follow "The Real Housewives of Orange County," you know what we're referring to. If you don't, here's the long and short of it: Shannon's a tough one to get to know, and Gina -- a newcomer this season -- has had a particularly hard time befriending her. Gina's done her fair share of "shit-talking Shannon" (Tamra's words, not ours), so it was rather peculiar to see her go behind Tamra's back to tell Shannon that Tamra and the other Housewives were speaking poorly about her.

From a viewer's perspective, it seemed like Gina was only spilling this "tea" to Shannon in an effort to get on her good side. And when Tamra finally got to watch the exchange for herself, she felt the same way.

"To me, as I watch it, that's what I see it like," she told TooFab. "It's like, 'Hey, now we're friends, let's team up.' It was really a weird situation because she's never been close to Shannon, ever. So for her to say, 'Oh, I'm so worried about your mental state,' but yet, prior to that, all she was doing was shit-talking Shannon? It wasn't cool at all, especially when she had [cosmetic eye] surgery a few days prior. She just wanted to get her upset."

At the time, Tamra was told two different stories by Shannon and Gina about what their conversation entailed. She confessed to Bravo cams she didn't know who to believe because she didn't "know Shannon to be a liar" and didn't "know Gina to be a shit-stirrer." As it turns out, the truth was somewhere in between what both ladies told her, but Tamra's casting most of the blame on Gina.

"My biggest thing is like, what was her point of doing that?" Tamra told us. "She [got close to] Shannon like 15 minutes ago, and all of a sudden, she wants to sit down and say, 'Hey, let me just tell you what your friends are saying.'"

"In Gina's defense, she did say 'friends,' but when I got the message [from Shannon], it was more like, 'Gina said you were saying all kinds of horrible things about my mental state,'" Tamra said. "And that's why I said to Gina, 'Let me hear your side of the story before I lose my shit.' But her side of the story wasn't great."

Regarding the ladies' upcoming reunion, which they filmed last month, Tamra said everyone walked away "on decent terms."

"Nobody's fighting -- well, except for Kelly [Dodd] and Vicki [Gunvalson]," she said with a laugh. "It's funny because neither one of them think the other should be on the show anymore, but I think they're both great for the show. They're exactly what the show needs."




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