IsilZha 171 points172 points 1 month ago

Yep, that's some disingenuous framing.

Subs banned because mods didn't act on reports for, or remove a lot of site content breaking content.

"Why didn't you ban X sub for not having a department of pre-crime to ban people before they made the comments that mods removed for violating site rules?"

E: what's even more telling about how much straw grasping they have to engage in to find anything that looks like it: that first London one has been floating around since 2017. It's been gone for over 3 years... if it existed at all. The comment doesn't exist in the pushshift archives. The first reference in Politics is a user comment on someone stating it was said in the post title. The first comment that can be found anywhere else is from a user in the_donald, and then as a copypasta in the copypasta sub, to which users there remarked that there is no evidence of the original existing.

SanFranRules 73 points74 points 1 month ago

I've reported hate speech and calls for violence on r/politics and it won't be removed for 24+ hours despite there being multiple active mods taking action on other posts.

Let's not kid ourselves and pretend that moderation in some of reddit's top subs isn't politically biased.

IsilZha -17 points-16 points 1 month ago

Soooo, on a massive sub, that likely has a massive report backlog to go through, you admit that they... removed content that should be removed. All in an unsubstantiated and nebulous anecdote.

Whew. You got me. They're definitely the same.

sicknss 14 points15 points 1 month ago


Whew. You got me. They're definitely the same.

I'm sure you haven't ventured far outside of your safe spaces but those that have see people literally calling for violence and never get banned. I saw several that had repeated calls for violence in the same subreddit. Every post was removed, you could only see them by looking at their post history, but it went on for over a month. Multiple calls for violence every single day. Every post removed, not even banned from the sub.

How the fuck does a post get removed after calling for violence and the person continues the exact fucking behavior for over a month? Why are they not permanently banned after the first post? We have subs being removed from reddit while other subs willfully allow the activity to continue until someone uses the "other" option to free form ask a mod what the fuck they're actually doing.

IsilZha -6 points-5 points 1 month ago

Your unsubstantiated anecdotes have truly proven that Politics is just as bad, beyond all doubt.

quantum-mechanic 12 points13 points 1 month ago

24hrs delay might as well be never. At that point it runs itself off the front page, the hate community has had their fill, and they all move on to the next posts. r/politics is a hate trash sub and the moderators could choose to actively change it, but they don't. Wonder why?

IsilZha -2 points-1 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry, they "don't choose to actively change it" after you yourself (apparently none of you can actually continue your own arguments) SanFranRules indicated they remove hateful comments that he reported? But you also think they have unlimited man power and can immediately react to any one of the tens of thousands of daily comments in a few minutes? They have ~60 mods. They're unpaid volunteers. Yesterday, Politics generated 59,000 comments.

Get some perspective.

SanFranRules -12 points-11 points 1 month ago

Sorry, what part of my comment made you think I give a shit about your opinion or need your validation of my lived experiences?

evn0 14 points15 points 1 month ago

I mean the fact that you shared it on social media so by the nature of it you’re welcoming different opinions. If you don’t want to be challenged don’t post on a public forum you dense cabbage.

IsilZha 1 point2 points 1 month ago

E: haha, I mixed up my conversations on my phone when replying to messages and thought this was a different comment tree. OH well, I'll leave it up for posterity and because I own my mistakes.

You've long abandoned the actual argument, yet you keep returning until you feel like you've beaten me. I keep coming back because I know I can keep pushing to argue the actual topic and you never will - you'll constantly make an absolute fool of yourself and pretend you actually won. I asked you the most basic thing to prove you're not a mouth breathing, abject moron by just defining the argument you think you've won. But you can't even do that. I guess you really are too dumb to have a conversation with. I thought about copy pasting all the arguments I made that you just glazed over, but it's clear you'll just ignore it again.

See, I can make an argument and throw in a few banal insults mixed in and you'll uncontrollably flail and whine and never argue a point, ever. No group is a bigger group of snowflakes than you are. It's amazing how predictably easy it is to make you fools just make nonsense after nonsense reply. I can just collect dozens of comments of you demonstrating why you couldn't win an argument against a paper bag filled with dog shit.

Keep dancing, jester, it amuses me.

frolie0 34 points35 points 1 month ago

Not to mention that comments are a much smaller point. While, yes, they should be policed and adhere to the content guidelines, most of the banned subs were upvoting posts that clearly violated the rules. Some random person making a post versus the community intentionally adding/upvoting posts that violate the policy are very different things.

IsilZha 10 points11 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they deserved to be removed. They were rulebreaking (the ones that existed.) That's the difference - when they were reported and/or mods saw them, they removed it.

Ver_Void 14 points15 points 1 month ago

Yeah there's a huge difference between "this is what we want our sub to be" and "being on the front page means idiots can be stupid faster than we can moderate"

kingofthe2hole 25 points26 points 1 month ago

One of the comments was fucking 7 minutes old that they screen captured lol.

IsilZha 14 points15 points 1 month ago

See my other comment. The first one is a total fabrication that they've been carrying around and reposting since May 2017.

-AnD -20 points-19 points 1 month ago

The ChiComs work is done with this site, and many of you are embracing the some sort of internet Stockholm Syndrome. The liberals I grew up with in the 80s and 90s, were the strongest advocates of free speech in America and would shit themselves to see what has become of the “progressive” movement. Sad.

IsilZha 8 points9 points 1 month ago

So you can't argue facts, you have to try to change the subject and lack the spine to admit you were swallowing someone's total fabrication. Got it.

pjmpjm84 0 points1 point 1 month ago

Comment overwritten - reddit is kinda lame, funded by Chinese censorship companies and political groups, the site has become super toxic and full of propaganda - I've left for friendlier, non-gamed communities, in particular, ruqqus. Come join me.