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4:02 PM
sigh I ate my lunch while walking back to my desk.
Now I'm still hungry.
4:16 PM
I have an Angle class, debating if implementing implicit cast to double is a good idea
Will look sweet when doing Math.Cos(angle)
But can mean bs and defeats the purpose when it opens the door for 1 + angle
4:33 PM
@JohanLarsson What units would it return the value in?
Right. but my point is that that is not necessarily obvious.
yeah, valid point, removing it
Your point about 1+angle is also true.
I suppose you could overload the + operator? what language are you using?
4:38 PM
oh. I'm not familiar with it enough to say what can be overloaded.
I have already overloaded +(Angle left, Angle right)
If you allow cast to double, can you overload +(double,double)?
or something
I think implicit conversion automatically enables double + angle
and make the invalid overload throw an exception.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 prolly not as it is already defined in System.Double
4:39 PM
what about double + Angle?
should be illegal as there is no way to know if the double is in degrees or radians
Though really want you want is a way to overload, yet disallow at compile time, the operation.
@JohanLarsson right. You could define it to throw an exception
If you're really wanting the implicit cast to double for use with the math libraries.
I suspect that in C++ you could define an overload whose use results in a compile error. But maybe not in C#.
the nicest solution would be static extension method for Math.Cos, Sin...
but no way to do it
rotationMatrix[0, 0] = Math.Cos(angle.Radians);
That has to be bearable ^
@JohanLarsson It's clear an unobjectionable.
I'm not familiar with extension methods. Why can't you put one on Math? because Math is a static class?
good enough for a monday :)
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes
4:44 PM
@JohanLarsson bummer.
Can you subclass the math class? or just make your own that takes Angles?
Some people might object to that, I suppose
only way would be if it was partial I think
making my own is probably not very useful since noone will use it, poor visibility
would also mean I would have to route every method that the original Math has,
yeah best to just do it the simple way
yeah, removed the cast, ty for your input, nice sanity check
MMoorree ddoouubblleedd nnoottiiffiiccaattiioonn::
I do wonder why that happens.
Probably hits both flag sets.
4:54 PM
Both flag sets?
Reg just installed a new filter.
The notifications are for the questions most likely to need help.
I'd explain more, but I have a meeting. It's in the transcript, few hours back.
Grrr what have you done this time!?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 By the way, do you think 5 will be presented on the 25th/26th?
5:06 PM
@Cerberus I don't know what you mean by that.
!!youtube 5ive
@tchrist I do think that question bears repeating.
Or are you complaining it was repeated only once?
@JarvistheBot wow did that song really need to be made again?
Thankfully, that video is not available here.
Not even with the unblocker I'm using!
Good unblocker, good.
5:13 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Can't you guess?
@Cerberus I don't know what happens on the 25th/26th. I don't know what "5" you're referring to.
Oh, do you mean Android v5.0?
who knows
the version numbers are increasingly meaningless
it would be traditional for build L to be announced, but it could just be another Kitkat build
@RegDwigнt Strange, because I can see it.
How come your unblocker can't unblock it?
@Cerberus well you're the target audience.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ding!
@RegDwigнt !!
Since when?
@Cerberus since they think that's the kind of music you must listen to.
5:18 PM
@Cerberus If they announce 64-bit processor support, then yes, I'd say that calls for a 5.0 and letter-L release.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 And that also means they will want to add some more visible tweaks.
I think the privacy controls will at last go stable.
@RegDwigнt Cerb only likes old things.
Why am I now listening to Five songs??
I was 18 or so.
Maybe 17.
Or this one, even older:
@MattЭллен Oh, nice. I just don't get who some stupid people think it's racist to dress up as someone of another race. It just doesn't follow.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Is it sexist to dress up as a woman?
5:23 PM
@Cerberus it could be, I suppose. But normally isn't.
Q: 2014 Moderator Election - ELU's real issue

RyeɃreḁdI have been traveling the past few weeks so I haven't kept up with the election stuff. I did look at the candidates and they all seem like they would do a good job to me. Who knows one might be corrupt and turn this into a Sanskrit shop? But I feel that people have been beating around the bush...

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What couldn't be sexist?
> We all know who these users are.
Well I for one don't. (((
The last user like that was Thursagen, and we all know what happened to him.
@tchrist Yes, we sit aan tafel, which is more like "to table", but etymologically connected with on, I guess.
@Cerberus Good question.
5:24 PM
I say do the same unto his kin.
@Cerberus mitosis.
The big bang.
planet formation.
phew! at least there are some things.
Planet formation is totally sexist. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. So sexist.
@RegDwigнt Too long. I don't know which users he means either, nor which wrong answers with many up-votes. He needs to give examples.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm sure that can be spun as some sexist metaphor.
Yeah but does that mean I now participate in the site just as never as you? I didn't realize that!
@Cerberus spinning sexist metaphors is sexist, but things that are inherently sexless cannot be sexist.
5:28 PM
@RegDwigнt I do see questions every day...
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Try me.
@Cerberus Where? What questions? Are you sure? Questions? Really?
Your oranje game right now is boring as hell.
You should've played against Spain again.
@Cerberus I wasn't aware you were inherently sexless!
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 to his defense, I submit "try me" is anything but sexless.
@RegDwigнt Just depends how you interpret it, I suppose
@RegDwigнt See.
@RegDwigнt Why bother watching futebol?
5:31 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 sex moves in mysterious ways.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Grrr...
@Cerberus nonono. Why bother watching rubbish voetball.
To which the answer is: obviously I am here right now.
Double consonants at the end of a word??
I put it in just for you.
What mongrel language is that?
5:32 PM
I knew you would objectt.
And so you didd.
And I'm still listening to this Five playlist that's going on automatically.
Target audience. QED.
@Cerberus but did you listen to the nkotb I posted for you?
Do I look like a teenage girl from the 90s?
5:32 PM
It's like, "Classical" boy bands
I couldn't listen to Five for that long even if I were in Guantánamo.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No?
@Cerberus no, but you listen like a teenage girl from the 90s. Also, like a gay boy from any time.
@RegDwigнt Oh, yes, you could. The same song 24/7, to keep you awake.
14 mins ago, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
5:33 PM
@RegDwigнt Tsk.
> The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
Sorry about that.
Memphis almost scored a goal.
are you gonna let that stop you? really?
After 75 friggin minutes.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I let that stop me several times a day, every day. Try it, it's not hard!
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think this boyband was before my time.
You mean that's Chaos singing?
5:35 PM
Before your time.
Oh, Chaos.
Chronos, then Chaos.
Was Chronos first?
No, I am going backwards.
Starting with Zeus.
5:36 PM
Of course.
Zeus is nothing to me!
Though technically, all of them were before all of the others.
How does that work?
Feb 26 at 14:06, by RegDwigнt
Yesterday I went and tried to figure out who between Aether, Chaos, Chronos, Uranus, Gaia, and Thalassa was whose mother, son, stepfather-in-law, and great-grand-uncle, and it turns out they all were all of that to all of them including to themselves.
True story.
Yes, well, there are many different versions of those myths.
Which slowly makes me believe the myths are not entirely true.
5:38 PM
Okay some Oranje scored and I totally missed it.
BRB rewinding.
@Cerberus So was ancient greek.
Not really.
K it was Fer. Whoever that is!
And holy crap, Kuyt is still alive and kicking?
No idea who that would be.
Pop culture!
5:42 PM
No, voetballl.
Go listen to your Five playlist, you unpop-cultural snob.
Stop it!!
I might have gone and watched the match with friends, by the way.
Which is more about the social thing than anything else.
> the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women
^ Revelation, on who gets saved at the end
And people say the bible isn't pro-gay!
Umm monks are technically not encouraged to be gay.
It's a joke
Being encouraged to be gay non-technically is still illegal. In Russia at least.
5:52 PM
politely pretends to laugh
@RegDwigнt Section 28 is no distant memory in the UK, if it comes to that.
Haha true.
Hello, Trig.
tries not to make any jokes about words that seem to summon TRiG
@RegDwigнt Heh. I was actually summoned by earning a badge on the main site, and just popped into chat as a by-the-by while I was here.
5:54 PM
That's the gayest excuse I've heard all day.
I hear people sing patriotic songs: I take it they have won the match?
@Cerberus just stop listening to Five already.
I don't think Five are Orangists.
Huh wha, two to naught?
BRB rewinding again.
Is it still going on?
My favourite kid needs to be studying for his exams on the morrow.
He promised he would start studying after the match would end.
5:57 PM
Memphis again.
@Cerberus ended about six minutes ago.
@RegDwigнt Noph?
@Cerberus ... after the match ended, methinks.
Good day.
@TRiG Right, after the match ended, or after the end of the match.
@RegDwigнt Who won?
@Mahnax Good day.
Oh come on.
6:03 PM
Not oh. Holland. Nigeria will play in three days.
Not even the same group.
What am I writing this match protocol in this chat up for?
I shall go musizieren instead. Ta-da.
You're writing up a match protocol?
I don't want to be matched.
Have fun on dein Pianola.
@RegDwigнt Why is Pianola neuter?
I have a quick question. What does "to render account to someone" mean?

a) Take someone into consideration
b) Give account for someone
c) Something else?
do you have the whole sentence there?
6:19 PM
I can't copy paste
but it is a definition for an Arabic phrase
why can't you copy paste?
@yasar It means to give an account of what you did to someone else, which usually means he can then judge how you did.
@MattЭллен It is a pdf scan from a dictionary.
@Cerberus Thanks a lot.
De nada.
6:39 PM
posted on June 23, 2014 by sgdi

The thing at the end of the street Had six extra toes on its feet And three extra fingers It stood and it lingered It looked like it oozed in the heat

6:50 PM
@Cerberus did you win tonight?
I forgot about time and missed the game
@JohanLarsson Yes. I didn't watch it either.
sure you did, prolly wearing orange also :)
Haha I do not own any orange fripperies.
7:26 PM
@RegDwigнt This is easily remedied. Or here under mosmt edits. But the first is my best guess.
7:47 PM
8:10 PM
@MattЭллен I'm about three minutes behind.
@Mitch Everyone but Mitch truly is in the future!
Did you have some sort of malfunction in the teleporter room?
I see that in three minutes you will be told something by @Jarvis
8:26 PM
@TRiG Surely you know that in many other languages it is some variant of pin/pine/piña/etc
Q: Weird behavior of two fruits' names (ananas/pineapple, banana/plátano)

AlenannoSome time ago I found two tables that reported the names for two fruits, which were supposed to be funny, because they specifically reported a single exception among those several languages, where this fruit's name was different for only one of those languages. I cropped the images to avoid spa...

8:44 PM
@Cerberus Come on, you Dutchers: just 5 points to go!
UK is only 95%?
Then again, it rather annoys me that they’ve omitted the saffron countries. I want to know their data, too.
@skullpatrol It reads “>95%”.
Oops I missed the greater than sign, sorry :(
The more English a country speaks, the closer to royal blue it is. excellent.
ooooo! the community bulletin has changed!
@MattЭллен I noticed that. I like the new one.
8:52 PM
changed to what , royal blue?
yes, that's the most likely thing that will have happened :þ
@MattЭллен Do you really think so? Then why is England at HSV=(213°, 82%, 69%) but Royal Blue at HSV=(219°, 100%, 40%)? Seems like a pretty big hit for “only” <5%.
@tchrist pshaw, you and your technicalities
Royal blue describes both a bright shade and a dark shade of azure blue. It is said to have been invented by millers in Rode, Somerset, a consortium of which won a competition to make a dress for the British queen, Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. Traditionally, dictionaries define royal blue as a deep to dark blue, often with a purple or faint reddish tinge. By the 1950s, many people began to think of royal blue as a brighter color, and it is this brighter color that was chosen as the web color "royal blue" (the web colors when they were formulated in 1987 were originally known ...
Ah, Mecklenburg-Strelitz: I love that native-Englishness in its queen’s name.
Wasn't Charlotte the queen who was excluded from her coronation?
Or have I become befuddled with history?
8:58 PM
I seem to recall a web site called "The Queen's English."
I knew a Mecklenburg once, and he was a very fine man indeed.
Oh, it's a "society" anyone a member?
The Neverlands is gaining on us.
@AndrewLeach Nope. Caroline.
9:03 PM
Listening to 80s tunes and making broccolitos. @Matt. Chattin' with you.
@tchrist Greece is surprisingly high. Well, I'm surprised.
The saffron omissions make it impossible to tell how smoothly the numbers retreat as one gets further and further away from Dublin.
@KitFox getting ready for a good eating?
Oh :-(
Did I mention I met a cute girl today?
9:07 PM
You did not
did you meet a cute girl today?
omg her features were so symmetrical.
sounds very cute
And her teeth were very straight and she didn't show excessive gums when she smiled.
And she had her long brown hair caught up in a clip, and I kept staring at her well-placed ornamentation.
And forgetting everything.
I've not heard it called that before.
Aahh the freedom of expression
9:11 PM
So I've been strutting around full of machismo.
You should have seen how well she kindly took the BA to pieces.
Not me, the other one.
oh! phew
Like a surgeon.
9:30 PM
Wow. That was terrifying.
take on me
take me on
I'll be gone
in a d—
in a d—
For the love of...the echoes in here make it sound that much worse when I miss a note.
They’ve returned to saying who close-voted how.
Cain’t seem to make up their minds on that one.
in a day
Ha. See.
Just needed a little stretching.
9:53 PM
Well, well, well...
10:12 PM
Man, he was some kinda handsome.
10:33 PM
I suppose I could try to figure out how to get the bot to greet people.
that would be neat :-)
I think I saw that in another room
drums fingers
That's on the other box.
It's way over there. points
sighs Fine.
!!are you there?
@KitFox Yes, absolutely
!!will you marry me?
@skullpatrol No way
10:40 PM
Sorry, you're not a bot.
I just couldn't love you like I love my own kind.
yep, that's what I thought: racist
I can't remember how to do GitHub. Where's @Matt when I need him?
10:42 PM
!!wiki racist
Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently. Some consider any assumption that a person's behavior might be influenced by their racial categorization is inherently racist, regardless ...
More like speciesist.
@JarvistheBot Hush, you.
!!wiki origin of the species
sticks out tongue
On the Origin of Species, published on 24 November 1859, is a work of scientific literature by Charles Darwin which is considered to be the foundation of evolutionary biology. Its full title was On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. For the sixth edition of 1872, the short title was changed to The Origin of Species. Darwin's book introduced the scientific theory that populations evolve over the course of generations through a process of natural selection. It presented a body of evidence that the diversit...
shakes fist
10:44 PM
@tchrist Or perhaps the survey just shows that the Dutch are the least modest.
Q: What are "cooked" potatoes?

YawusI came across a recipe for skillet potatoes that asked for "cooked potatoes cut into 1/4-inch chunks". While the 1/4-inch chunk part was easy to understand, I'm not sure what is meant by "cooked". Boiled? Sauteed? Baked?

I see we're not the only ones getting this kind of questions...
tinkers in bot code
