Dismiss this pinned window
top 200 commentsshow 500

[–]FBoggPixel Genji 2351 points2352 points  (133 children)

him: we're down two tanks a healer, this is my time to shine

[–]lonewolf1618[S] 1552 points1553 points  (130 children)

He kept running in solo and not healing. I have several more clips of the bullshittery

[–]Hoenirson 896 points897 points  (47 children)

My theory is that it's some 5 year old kid using his dad's account.

[–]Shadrach451Robot 903 points904 points  (10 children)

Yeah. This is just what I assume. My son plays on my account a lot. Typically just against bots, but sometimes I'll have him take over for me in the arcade when I get a phone call or need to use the bathroom. So, whenever someone plays really stupid, I just assume they are in the bathroom and their 5-year-old is playing for them.

This is what I assume when I'm driving too. Some jerk cuts me off and slows down to ten mph below the speed limit, and I think, "Oh, probably they needed to pee and let their 5-year-old drive for them."

[–]IocabusBlizzard World Bastion 197 points198 points  (1 child)

Don't you dare give the other drivers ideas. I put up with enough nonsense from other drivers on the road as is.

[–]penatbater 33 points34 points  (4 children)

I do this for driving but instead of having to pee, I imagine then having diarrhea.

[–]funkyfunk7 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You can't be mad at someone cutting you off when you imagine them shitting their pants.

[–]dr_destructo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

But if they wére actually shitting their pants, you'd think they would HURRY THE FUCK UP!

[–]Shadrach451Robot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is wise.

[–]ChristopherMcLucas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is what I say to myself and I don't flip out as much as I use to. Not about the driving tho I go 25 everywhere. Didn't you hear? It keeps kids alive.

[–]DieselVoodoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm blaming you in advance for how much I'm going to laugh the next time I get cut off and think of a 5 yo driving while the Mom looks for something in her purse or some BS.

[–]VargololFeed me your Tanks 100 points101 points  (14 children)

"They gonna force me to play healer? Nah, I'll let my son play those games"

[–]BottleOfSalt 64 points65 points  (13 children)

I don't understand why everyone refuses to tank or heal. Not every match needs a genji and a Widowmaker.

[–]DeadlyzCarrying My Team 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As a tank main.. I can’t enjoy DPS nearly as much anymore. Tanks have the same/ sometimes more playmaking potential with the ability to make plays, calls and just not die in one hit! how can you not love it

[–]SweetVsSavory 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sigma is insane!!!

[–]Facundex 26 points27 points  (13 children)

Naah thats just a guy that's playing support for the coins or the loot box, i know this cause one told me that

[–]V-CliffNot nearly as chill as i would like to think 185 points186 points  (66 children)

Then report him for gameplay sabotage lol.

[–]Evil_phdPixel Bastion 1656 points1657 points  (49 children)

You looked busy contemplating life in that corner. He didn't want to interrupt you.

[–]lonewolf1618[S] 610 points611 points  (45 children)

I was asking myself why the hell am I playing on Xbox... I sold my graphics card so no PC for awhile :'(

[–]Everblack66 297 points298 points  (21 children)

hookers and blow I suspect.

[–]lonewolf1618[S] 142 points143 points  (11 children)

No lol. I work for GM and I was on 2 week shutdown and I never got my pay and I haven't touched my PC in a long so I sold it. I was going to build a new PC anyway.

[–]FireDragon641‘Lucioball’ Wrecking Ball 94 points95 points  (5 children)

You work for the grand master rank? How does that work? /s

[–]Everblack66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hookers and blow sounds cooler. I'd go with it next time your selling off belongings for cash.

[–]lonewolf1618[S] 155 points156 points  (6 children)

I was super stoned at that moment.

[–]Ugly_PainterTrick-or-Treat Torbjörn 46 points47 points  (5 children)

Did you sell it to get more smoke?

[–]ErisGreyMei 104 points105 points  (4 children)

No, for more computer games.

[–]littlebrwnrobotWashington Justice 35 points36 points  (2 children)


[–]TILtonarwhal 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Omg I could probably get a cool $1,000 from my PC. You know how many genuine copies of Dreamworks SHREK FOREVER AFTER™ I could buy with that?!

[–]samureyejacqueI suck at Overwatch 24 points25 points  (0 children)

slaps roof of xbox

This baby can play so many Shrek DVDs

[–]Synapsen 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I sold my car to buy more gas

[–]TallMills 14 points15 points  (16 children)

I mean if you have integrated graphics, you might get 60 fps on all low settings at 720p.

[–]lonewolf1618[S] 21 points22 points  (14 children)

Don't think my i5 6600k could do it. Im used to 1080p 144hz with my 1070. Playing that low hurts my eyes.

[–]TallMills 3 points4 points  (12 children)

Lmao, I feel you. The resolution and refresh rate are mostly what will hurt, the low settings are actually fine (source: run a 6600k and a 1060 6gb with all low settings on 1080p to get constant 144hz). But to me, the mouse and keyboard interface would be worth it. Up to you though.

[–]jesterkrisTrick or Treat McCree 3283 points3284 points  (188 children)

At least you have a healer to run past you like a braindead drone, before role queue that would have been a Genji.

[–]PaintItPurpleIf that is not enough, feel free to die 127 points128 points  (6 children)

If somebody's going to go Leeroy Jenkins, I think I'd rather it be a Genji than a Baptiste.

[–]Box-o-bees 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Hey, I'll have you know that I Leeroy Jenkins just fine while my Immortality Field is active thank you very much. After it's gone though; all bets are off.

[–]greendiamond16I dont actually own this game 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Never corner a Baptists and pray that Baptists doesnt corner you.

[–]imBlazebakedWinston 329 points330 points  (154 children)

But now they’re taking a healer slot from people who could actually heal.

[–]mcjunker 714 points715 points  (112 children)

But now there is actually a healer slot

[–]MrFaultyPigeon 9 points10 points  (4 children)

But what if I want to play DPS zenyatta?

[–]I_give_karma_to_menKira | Unapologetic Brig Main 48 points49 points  (3 children)

You're in luck: Zen can dps and heal at the same time!

[–]wipeout4whWinston 134 points135 points  (104 children)

There used to be 6 potential healer slots, now there are only 2. Before, you could switch roles if the other healers weren't doing their job. Now you're just fucked.

[–]mcjunker 463 points464 points  (31 children)

Ah yes, the 6 healer meta

[–]cougar572Bed time 367 points368 points  (4 children)

aka Heal Team 6

[–]Al_Gor1thm 118 points119 points  (1 child)

Now it's Heal Fortress 2.

[–]Zepp87 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Big Healer Six?

[–]DkS_FIJI 56 points57 points  (15 children)

Got a team to try that in quick play once. It actually worked! But against a competent team, no way.

[–]sampletext224 40 points41 points  (8 children)

I’ve done it before in quick play too it was so fun

[–]RueNothingI meant to do that. 26 points27 points  (2 children)

I've done it before in 6 v 6 elim. The whole team was like, this will be funny and then we'll play for real! Well... we won that round, so then we had to play the next rounds with no healer (this was pre-Baptiste). Wasn't all that funny anymore when we inevitably lost.

[–]minepose98Drunk Irish scientist pisses on team, heals. Authorities baffled 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Enemy team with the 3000 IQ play of letting you win that round to prevent you healing later.

[–]dilqncho 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is some Gwent level planning

[–]ThisTakenIsUsernameChibi Widowmaker 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No limits, 6 Moiras. Fucking OP as shit.

[–]LagkillerMei 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Not going to lie, I've done that many times before and it does surprisingly well. About the only thing that stopped us was having 5 tanks or widows that could click heads (but we usually just sent the lucio after them)

[–]I_give_karma_to_menKira | Unapologetic Brig Main 27 points28 points  (0 children)

There used to be 6 potential healer slots

As a support main since launch, this is the best joke I've heard all week.

[–]Rockyrox 32 points33 points  (2 children)

If you are having to be a third healer because one of the others isn’t healing, you are probably already fucked.

[–]Reaper2rRoadhog 81 points82 points  (10 children)

Way more often, you wouldnt have enough healers. The game is better this way.


we just gotta wait for everyone's off role srs get down to where they're supposed to be. The the enemies healers will do this too.

[–]AgelessWonder67Mercy 29 points30 points  (0 children)

6 potential healer spots lol. Unless someone was running goats you weren't even getting 2 healers most times you'd get one if you were lucky. The game needs to have characters rebalancing since 2-2-2 the biggest I've noticed so far are reaper and sym. They can balance better now that 2-2-2 is here.

I was often the one healer on a 4 dps team so yeah I'll take 2-2-2 everyday that ends in y.

[–]CoolAtlas 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You failed to mention that each roles have seperate SRs

I rather have a support playing support at his SR then have to play a game where someone who sucks at support is forced to play it because everyone went dps

[–]mayg0dhaveMercy 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Let's be honest especially in the lower tiers how often are there 2 healers?

How often will someone flex to heals?

As a healer/tank main I am finally having fun in comp because I am not having to choose between either being the only healer or only tank with 5 damage characters.

[–]HoboAJ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also the almost instant que is pretty mint.

[–]Noctis117 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even when someone leaves the game that role isn't open for someone to switch.

[–]DeadMage 36 points37 points  (23 children)

I agree with this sentiment. Role queue eliminates the advantages of flexibility.

This also applies to counters and other strategies. If I'm queued as a tank against a team with a Pharah that's dominating, and none of my DPS can play a hitscan character, but I can play a pretty good McCree, we can't swap to turn the game around. It's incredibly limiting and frustrating.

[–]styles605 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personally, I'd rather have comp limitations like 2-2-2 than shitty team comps like 5 DPS and a healer, or stupid ones like GOATS. It makes all 3 classes feel valuable and needed.

[–]dilqncho 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While you're theoretically correct, let's be real here. How often did you get teams with too many healers? It was pretty much always the other way around. Sure this way you can't switch but I believe having 2 fixed healer slots is worth it.

[–]SoundDesperadoDo you feel a bit SAW? 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are people fucking stupid? Your comment makes perfect sense. If someone is playing healer and isnt healer that means you can only have up to 1 healer since nobody on DPS or Tank can switch.

[–]bigheyzeusTombstone Victory Pose For New Heroes Please! 54 points55 points  (0 children)

No, they took a healer slot from people who could Genji!

[–]magicwithakick 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Ok but they’ll be at the rank their bot healer is at.

[–]dkyguy1995Give yourself to the rhythm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Except if they are actually that bad they would just drop below your rank unless you're already bronze

[–]pnight141 24 points25 points  (22 children)

Hate to say it, but they offer loot boxes and currency because nobody heals.

[–]WoozleWuzzlePixel D.Va 26 points27 points  (11 children)

I've received a loot box from the DPS slot.

[–]pnight141 10 points11 points  (10 children)

Interesting. It's never been an option for me. Only tanks and healers are the slots that provide bonuses.

[–]_BreakingGood_ 9 points10 points  (9 children)

It can happen but it's very rare and depends entirely on rank.

[–]TheQueqTrick-or-Treat Mercy 9 points10 points  (7 children)

It also depends on day/time of day. Obviously it's a bit early to call out any certain patterns, but I definitely saw longer wait times for DPS on the weekend than weekday evenings. On a probably related note, I've always had better teammates on weekday evenings than on weekends.

[–]_BreakingGood_ 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I always get dumpstered on weekends. No idea why.

[–]kitsunenotora 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Pretty sure it's because more people play while incapacitated (high, drunk, etc) on weekends, not even to mention that more casual players likely play more on weekends than weekdays.

My most consistently winnable and well fought games tend to be weekday afternoons.

[–]lonewolf1618[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I play high on PC and was diamond. Some people play better that way. I have a friend that plays alot better when he is drunk.

[–]kitsunenotora 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Maybe but that is definitely a deviation from the norm/probably due to other factors. I know I play a lot worse (reaction time much slower) while drunk.

[–]Jacksaur 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's based on who you play. As a support main I constantly have rewards on Tank/DPS.

[–]philosoraptocopterDon't hassle the hoff 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Who looks right at you says...

“... I need healing.”

[–]James2779 1049 points1050 points  (21 children)

People in these elos can only see movement so since you stood still they couldnt see you

[–]lonewolf1618[S] 370 points371 points  (9 children)

That explains it. Don't want to be playing with T-rexs

[–]Stormchaserelite13 62 points63 points  (1 child)

No joke this is true. Stood on the point for a good 30 seconds as baby dva before they figured out I was there. Like the middle of the point.

[–]imveryfontofyouWidowmaker 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I did this once. My entire team died to a hanzo dragon on the capture point on Eichenwalde and I grappled in past Hanzo as widow and then crouched down on point next to a pillar to try to not lose our progress on our last tick.

Hanzo came on point, looked around, and then walked off, while I got the last tick.

[–]BombkirbySymmetra 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sheen, that theory's been discredited.

[–]zeonon 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Drax wants to know your location for revealing about his secret trick.

[–]Olddriverjc 13 points14 points  (3 children)

New passive for reaper, when hp less then 10 become invisible when stand still lol

[–]jordan922mom99Reaper 3 points4 points  (1 child)

As a reaper main I can say that it would be awesome if they added that

[–]bigheyzeusTombstone Victory Pose For New Heroes Please! 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is why you see folks emptying a whole clip into 3 different targets, killing nothing and feeding.

[–]Yarrow83Pixel Ana 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Can confirm. I once slept a Tracer outside of my spawn and my Phara just walked right past her.

[–]jordan922mom99Reaper 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Bruh something’s wrong with your pharah, you need a new one

[–]Yarrow83Pixel Ana 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Through the whole daughter away.

[–]ItsLyndsieee 356 points357 points  (17 children)

I was on fire from an Ashe bomb spamming that I need healing while being right in front of a Baptiste. Instead of healing me, he moved away from me as if I was blocking his view from shooting. I died. Right in front of him. I've never been so tilted.

[–]mbanson 216 points217 points  (2 children)

That worst part is it's super damn obvious when a teammate is low health as you get big glaringly obvious "critical health" messages above that character.

Also the fact that you ran to safety is like a god damn blessing for a support main so they can heal you without being molested instantly by the other team (assuming they are competent).

[–]Ba_Sing_Saint 83 points84 points  (0 children)

As a mercy main when I play support, the fact that you came back towards spawn alone is a god send. HELP ME HELP YOU, YOU MOUTH BREATHING ASSHOLES!!!! I KNOW YOU NEED FUCKING HEALING. LETS SEE TOU SPRINT TO THE POINT IN HEELS!!!! Especially on volskya. Cause the line of sight from spawn to the point is pretty clear just let me fly to you. Please 🥺

[–]canadarepubliclives 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Some people play with health bars off.

I don't know who these people are, but I can bet their rank.

[–]Swordlord22Hanzo main 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ehh I’ve had it happen similar to me but I don’t really blame my healers as they were trying to heal someone else lol

But it does suck because I still think we could’ve won the team fight had I lived

[–]JDredd80Chibi Pharah 383 points384 points  (20 children)

Well thanks to role que you can count on a second healer to run past you.

[–]bilky_tPixel Junkrat 81 points82 points  (17 children)

It's gonna take a couple of weeks for these one-role ponies to get their other roles filtered out of whatever rank they were in last season. I love the changes, but holy shit I do not love the fact that a bronze-level support player is starting their support career in Diamond, where they're playing DPS Moira and screeching at their "useless team" over comms.

[–]iProcrastinate-AirYour ults taste delicious! 28 points29 points  (5 children)

Hopefully the metrics for each role to define how you performed in a game are going to respect the fact that they're different roles.

I'm a bit worried that said DPS moira will be able to float in their current rank for that role because they're able to pad their stats enough (despite not healing).

[–]bilky_tPixel Junkrat 12 points13 points  (3 children)

From what I understand, they won't be penalised for getting gold DPS, but they will be penalised for getting less heals than other people playing the same role and will probably be losing more games regardless than someone who actually supports their team. I feel pretty comfortable in saying that these high-ranked non-supports will fall pretty quickly. But for the time being, I'll definitely be avoiding competitive.

I did my placements with all roles, and by god it was fucking horrible. Main-tanking Sigmas that never used their shields screaming about useless DPS and their gold damage. DPS Moiras sucking off Reapers who proceed to murder our DPS 1v1 and then shift away. It's a nightmare at the moment. Before we had flex players filling gaps and 4 DPS who at least somewhat knew what they were doing. Now, we've got dirt-rank supports who are even more useless than a solo-heal Soldier.

[–]andre821 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who do I have to ult to get some succ by Moira?

[–]TurinTuramber 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This has been my experience as well. On an unlucky streak right now, 6 games in a row that we not only lost, but got stomped so hard that it looked like one of those bronze vs gm videos. Sure it'll eventually swap and I'll be on the stomping side too, but god damn the matchmaking is screwed right now.

[–]SpazzyBabyI swear guys, I'll switch if it's not working... 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Moira is the best example of why medals should be removed from the game. They tell you literally nothing about how well she’s doing. I played her during my support placements and looked at the medals halfway through and though “I’ve done fucking nothing and have 3 golds”

[–]theblackcanaryyyAna 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I used to be in plat in my support role. I’ve done nothing but have my sr tank while I watch my teammates run zarya/rein against a widow who stands uncontested with a dps duo who can’t get to high ground to get the widow

[–]nozohime_ 263 points264 points  (59 children)

had a moira on my team yesterday say “LOL i always have more damage than healing XD” big oof

[–]DarthEmetMoira 128 points129 points  (46 children)

This always cracks me up. I had exactly the same kind of Moira yesterday who proceeded shit all over our DPS players on the post-match screen: "gold damage bro"... That's a bad thing as Moira D:

[–]eating_pickles 28 points29 points  (0 children)

as a moira main, let me tell you that having golden damage isn't inherently bad, assuming you're focusing on pulling your weight as a healer. My pee sprinkler drains out somewhat fast during hard pushes/defenses, and orbs don't heal forever, so I have to balance it out by intentionally damaging enemies (not just throwing offensive orbs at random like a lot of people do).

I've had tons of gold damage while topping every mercy's healing by a 1.5k margin at least.

[–]ParrityChibi Reinhardt 147 points148 points  (27 children)

That's a bad thing as Moira D:

Counterpoint: If I have gold damage AND gold healing (and it's not like 2 heals, I'm talking 8k+ for QP / 15k+ for comp) someone definitely wasn't doing their job as DPS.

[–]YareYareDaze- 75 points76 points  (11 children)

Today I had a match on Dorado. I played Moira, other heal was Mercy. I ended up with 18k heal and 5 gold (which I had since the very beginning of the Match). We still lost and nobody even endorsed me even after seeing my 18k heal end card. :(

Still a little bit salty that I didn't just get a 5 gold card instead.

[–]SgtMittensLartay 96 points97 points  (6 children)

It boils my shit when I have 5 golds and the game has the audacity to give me a card for something else.

[–]YareYareDaze- 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Gets 5 gold.

Card: Gold Objective time 😰

[–]elr0y7Trick-or-Treat Torbjörn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Every. Fucking. Time. I feel like I get 4/5 golds so often with Moira though that it’s offsetting it or something.

[–]RoyBradStevedave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've gotten 5 gold with Brig before (I was stuck in a deep bronze hell) and it gave me a card for armor. No one respects armor.

[–]CaptainBouch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then teammates go “yea but that doesn’t count, it’s easy to do that with Moira”. Like bitch, if it’s so easy why don’t you actually do something and maybe you can take my gold AND we would actually win

[–]Twikstar 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I honestly dont think people understand what are good numbers. It could be 50k and people would just think its average.

[–]constantvariablesTracer 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Nah that doesn’t mean shit. I’ve had Moira’s spam the tanks and the only way I’d get heals is by walking in the way. Virtually no healing for DPS then they act surprised that I’m not getting kills.

[–]Duer321Cute Moira 41 points42 points  (13 children)

As a moria main, it pains me so fucking much that people think that gold damage or elimination are important.

Had a player my last match that choose moria, didn't have a mic. All he/she/it did was throw damage orb, attacked tanks/reapers, and never healed.

The point and keeping your teammates alive IS YOUR GOAL!

I know, its easier said than done, also you have to rely on your teammates to do your job. It.. just hurts that people use moria like this.

Edit: spelling

[–]thewiredknightSymmetra 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Only after Role Que is this true and why I still object to Role Que. Before if a Moira wanted to go damage (which she could do reasonably well) your team would have a backup healer or two to cover for this since her role was more flexible. It's part of why she excelled as a character. However, now with role que if someone does this all of a sudden it's depriving the team of a healer that no other player can fill. And the 2-2-2- lock now tells them "your way of playing is no longer allowed" and it just fucks up the game for everyone.

[–]KingKaliYuga 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Only brag about doing gold damage as Moira if you have gold healing too

[–]enthotsiasticPixel Lúcio 13 points14 points  (5 children)

ye, had a Moria yesterday that said “why do I have gold dmg...” in the chat. Probably because I had gold healing as Zen. People need to learn to prioritize.

[–]dngrsshang9 145 points146 points  (19 children)

that bot gonna drop rank quick

[–]Captain_BlackjackI simply recognize greatness when I see it. 39 points40 points  (4 children)

How do we tell when it's a bot vs a shitty player? The straight beeline to the objective?

[–]academician1Chibi Wrecking Ball 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Usually a good clue, that plus a high percentage of strafe movement while aiming at objective.

[–]Reverie_SmasherCanary in a Coalmine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"bot" is often used to mean a mindless player, not taken literately.

[–]academician1Chibi Wrecking Ball 32 points33 points  (7 children)

Glad somebody pointed it out. This is obviously a bot.

[–]mayg0dhaveMercy 29 points30 points  (6 children)

Sorry there are bots playing comp now? I had no idea.

[–]ElegantHopeElegantƐxlbr#1835, Level 1800+ and counting (PC) 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Way back when OW was in its first year, I ran into a sym player who would run into walls, stop, run into walls again, and follow very specific paths. At first I thought they were either lagging or throwing, but every time I spectated them they were doing things that were really odd even for a player. And then we lost a few points and they just got stuck in spawn and couldn't navigate out.

And at that point I concluded they were a bot. I believe this was pre-comp. So if that happened back then, I wouldn't be surprised if people would do that in comp.

[–]SturmgeshootzChibi Moira 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Why? What's the point of running a bot?

[–]itheraeld 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Farm accounts / loot boxes / shitty stats for those "bronze to GM" youtubers

[–]way2manycatsCute Moira 2 points3 points  (0 children)

try and rank up the account easily? i have no doubt there are people who buy accounts that meet certain criteria.

[–]atheistnumberonePixel Roadhog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would guess it would be for throwing/deranking with out having to actually be there. They just move around and do random things to keep from getting kicked.

[–]warrior101kdnFuck bastion. 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That was probably some dude letting his little kid play

[–]Retro-MikeTrick-or-Treat Zenyatta 102 points103 points  (2 children)

What the actual fuck? As a healer main this hurts me inside.

[–]MeechtChibi Ana 53 points54 points  (2 children)

He was conserving ammo /s

[–]LorenzoJm2004 6 points7 points  (1 child)

He’s the same type pf player that likes to save their ult for the next round.

[–]lordofallpoos 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That same player later in the match: "Our dps definitely lost this one. They weren't dying so thats the only possible option."

[–]Cuzndwyne 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I cant. I love it.

[–]King_Malaka 103 points104 points  (54 children)

Ive been trying to figure out why all the lower ranks thought that role queue was gonna make their ranks climb.

[–]tekman526 71 points72 points  (31 children)

My main role (tank) climbed from low gold to almost plat but support feels impossible to rank up from silver in solo queue because you can only do so much as a support and silver tanks and dps tend to not be the best at their job. I hit my sleep darts and nades and shots on allies and enemies as ana but it feels like nobody knows how to capitalize on anything

[–]TannenFalconwingPharah’s Wingman 58 points59 points  (11 children)

For over a dozen seasons I flexed as a high gold low plat player, never put much into trying to climb. Now I'm looking at my 1830 support rank and wondering what the hell I am doing wrong.


[–]ChrisBrownsKnuckles 32 points33 points  (6 children)

Just play Moira and win all the time. Too many people play Ana at low tiers (I'm not saying you are) and don't realize how many shots they are missing and how much more they could be doing at Moira.

[–]TannenFalconwingPharah’s Wingman 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I wish i was a better Ana. I think she's the most interesting character in the series in terms of kit and story.

But yeah, Moira isn't working for me either. Teams down here don't play very aggressive so it can be difficult to build up healing when my team is standing in the open getting shot.

[–]PristineReputation 13 points14 points  (1 child)

True, with Moira you can confirm so much more kills for winning teamfights. Your teammates aren't going to make use of Ana's utility anyway.

[–]Skrafcio 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I also got placed in 1800+ silver as healer, while my dps was low plat and tank was high gold, but I've won couple matches as Moira, so I'm now gold. It was really hard to heal silvers tanks, who push when they have low hp or don't hide between shield.

[–]blitzx666Genji 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'll tell you as a dps main, I've had the same issue with no initiative taken to capitalize. The whole team not pushing on a pick or multiple picks. It's a waste.

[–]ivrajWhat's a me-me? 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Same. I'm up 500 sr. What I didn't expect is that support would be my lowest sr so I'm a dps main now I guess. Healing the shit out of dumb was (at least part of) what was holding me back.

[–]mbanson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly this was the struggle for me before. I flex but almost always ended up being support and no matter how good of a support I was, I can only do so much to help a bad team/teammate.

I actually ended up ranking highest with DPS despite maybe having a combined 10 hours on DPS ever and I'm enjoying it a lot more as I have enough game sense (from playing so much support and tank) to actually switch to counters mid-match, something a lot of Silver DPS will never do.

[–]NasicournusChibi Pharah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It feels like a lot of the time, the big thing that's missing in lower ranks is call outs in comms. May make it easier to rank up if you take the reins, but I know a lot of people (myself included) don't want the extra pressure that entails.

[–]el_muskratD.Va 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I may not be climbing but games are much more enjoyable with out 4 DPS and all of them screaming about healing

[–]SwissQuesoBeen Here All Along 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pretty much this.

[–]whtge8New York Excelsior 33 points34 points  (5 children)

Gold players are especially worse because while they aren’t the worst mechanically, they have absolutely no game sense. They will lose a main tank and main healer early, then jump in with Blade and maybe get 2 or 3 kills but still have a good chance to lose the fight because it’s hard to advance without your main tank and support. But they just see it as “I killed 3 people and we lose the fight. Therefore I am good and you are bad.”

Gold players always think they are being held back by their team.

[–]BA2929 25 points26 points  (1 child)


I think that's an issue at literally every rank in the game.

[–]chachki 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I think that's an issue at literally every rank in the every game.

[–]KaellianChibi Pharah 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I don't know if its because of the pre-season/beta, but my plat games felt like bronze match all week. DPS were never switching to counter, healer losing silver medal to dps/tank, tanks refusing to pick one shield tank, and people were as toxic as ever, if not more than usual.

Before the change, we could actually shuffle the setup around by making everyone switch roles, but now, everyone is sticking to the same 2 heroes they are used to play, even when its not working. I wasn't thrilled about role queue, but playing this week made me hate it. I do enjoy having 3 differents MMR, but it made those matches far less enjoyable in overall.

[–]lookatthosefruit 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Im still being placed with people who arent ranked even though I am and its ruining my matches cause they cant play the role they signed up for.

[–]Karmaslapp 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I tried first time placement matches and had to fight in high gold with some platinum players, it was brutal for me

Placement matches should be reset, throw you in high silver, and then move you up or down based on accuracy, dpm, hpm, k/d, and then add a multiplier for win/loss rather than being win/loss dependent

[–]Fectah 29 points30 points  (6 children)

people are still gonna play their mains cause the rewards for playing tank and healer are useless. that guy is just throwing

[–]YareYareDaze- 11 points12 points  (3 children)

What you're telling me getting 25 whole credits doesn't make you wanna flex? After only 40 quick matches you could buy an off season Legendary skin with that!

[–]Hwilkes32 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm actually not a fan of them giving lootboxes and credits for playing support. Like if I were a DPS or Tank main I wouldn't want someone who has no idea how to play Support taking up a slot.

[–]DoorToDecember 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Honestly, I’ve been seeing this constantly with healers in my group. They run directly past everyone and just die repeatedly. It’s like 222 turned healers into lemmings. I don’t get it.

[–]littlebrwnrobotWashington Justice 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Honestly the not healing frustrates me a lot less than the trickling

[–]WhyHelloYo 53 points54 points  (18 children)

#1 role q problem: When someone leaves (dc or quitting) or when someone on your team is deranking and refusing to engage, you have zero ability to re-balance the team to make up for the slack. If a healer leaves, a tank needs to be able to switch to heals, period. Can't do that now.

#2 role q problem: When you need to counter the other team with [could be any hero but let's pretend it's a Mei] you might be in a position where the person who is able to play that hero is locked into [pick a different role, let's say tank] and there isn't any way for people to swap roles to rebalance and counter.

Basically, but locking people into hard set roles once the game starts, you make the rock/paper/scissors game a million times worse because now a team can not make a coordinated roster swap. You have to cross your fingers and pray that your DPS are well rounded enough that between the two of them they can answer anything. (They probably can't. But between six people, usually someone can.)

[–]thewiredknightSymmetra 19 points20 points  (2 children)



This is precisely why I objected to role lock - it was really implemented because of the league which is how Overwatch is balanced but it would lead to this problem incredibly fast. People were saying "oh just get good with everything in a class" but that's unrealistic when every class plays so fundamentally differently from one another.

If the opposing team has a Phara but your team has no hitscan to deal with her but the two DPS you are with are not good with hitscan characters nobody can resolve this situation and you are just stuck.

[–]7isagoodletterChibi Lúcio 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Casual players (usually plat and below) don't have as much of a voice in the community because, well, they're casual. They just wanna play. They might not really get involved in the community, despite them making up the majority of it. However, the high tier players (masters and above) usually have a much louder voice. That's because they're the streamers, the pros. They're a lot more active in the community and therefore are more likely to be heard. Role lock definitely benefits them because they don't have the problems of casual players, such as being unable to play certain heroes. When your mei can shoot a pharmercy out of the sky you don't have that kind of problem.

[–]FravasTheBard 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Um, according to Blizzard well over half the player base is plat or below. That is the fucking community.

[–]WhyHelloYo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

...or your healers or tanks are well rounded enough. Though they are more likely to be due to a smaller hero pool. Basically you go from 6 possible swaps to 2. That's bad.

[–]xstangxChibi Reinhardt 5 points6 points  (0 children)


[–]UnbluedJunkrat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Role queue is ok, but it hasn't truly fixed anything. Instead of people bitching about a lack of healers and tanks, they bitch that the healers and tanks they have ned to change to rein, mercy, etc. It's a mild improvement to game quality, but I'm not that impressed.

[–]ShyShannon732 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I feel you man, I feel you

[–]PanhuWoW 28 points29 points  (23 children)

I love Role Queue, BUUUUUUUUUUUUT...

Let's be real, 99% of people pick either damage dealing healers or damage dealing tanks and just play them as DPS

Roadhog, Moira, shit like that, heroes that CAN tank/heal but people play them and refuse to do their original roles...

[–]Lakeshow15 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Roadhog and Moira also happen to be extremely meta...

[–]alejpazPress Y for POTG 15 points16 points  (0 children)

A good Moira will ruin your day haha

[–]iStorm_exeTank 35 points36 points  (10 children)

..healing isnt the only job as a support.

roadhog is supposed to pressure with damage. actually. what the fuck else are you supposed to do with roadhog? throw hooks at the rein shield?

these people also had the option of just.. queueing as dps, but they didnt.

i'm not sure what you're getting at.

[–]wipeout4whWinston 19 points20 points  (7 children)

A lot of people seem to think Roadhog is a flanker. He's not just about pressuring with damage. Positioning is important too. He creates space by using the threat of his hook to force enemies away. His big hitbox and ability to heal himself also allow him to act as a human shield.

healing isnt the only job as a support.

But it is their main job. Obviously there's nothing wrong with a healer doing damage when they have the opportunity. The problem is when they focus solely on doing damage and ignore their team.

[–]LagkillerMei 13 points14 points  (0 children)


Hooooo boy. Roadhog is a versatile guy and let me tell you, there's so much to do. While you are poking some damage up front, your big role is to keep an eye on the flanks. Some little shit gets it in their mind that your healers are easy pickings, your hook is there to nope the shit out of them.

So then they start to be a little mindful of your presence and maybe switch from a Tracer to a Hanzo to try and get a pick off. Well, in their attempt to get around your main tank they pop off storm bow. You walk in front of your support, take a breather right in his face and make him contemplate his life choices.

You are the guardian of the supports and the best protection they have. You are the bouncer of the team.

[–]TannenFalconwingPharah’s Wingman 2 points3 points  (1 child)

99% of all statistics are made up

[–]projectmarsPlaying Junkrat like Junkrat would play Junkrat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have found that if you state a number with enough certainty, 72% of the time people will automatically assume you know what you are talking about.

[–]bites_stringcheese 11 points12 points  (6 children)

If you aren't one of those people, then the other team is more likely to have those awful team mates, and you'll win more often than not.

[–]Nj_all_dayG U D S U C C 5 points6 points  (0 children)


[–]VoluptuousBearChibi Ashe 6 points7 points  (6 children)

This happened to me earlier. I’m 30 hp asking for heals for my Ana. She not in voice, I’m spamming heal me literally behind her lmao

This was in mid diamond btw.

[–]xmknzxPixel Lúcio 33 points34 points  (3 children)

I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I hate when people spam for heals behind me. I'm supposed to be the backline for a reason, and if I have to turn around I'm losing my sight on the whole battle including tanks; just hang out in front of me or move to the side to be in cover. That being said, I know how it feels to play with bot/DPS healers so I usually just stand directly in front of them to force heals, lol.

[–]justanotherbookladyAna 9 points10 points  (1 child)

It's even worse in voice imo. At least if you spam the button I'll get an onscreen indicator to look at. Screaming in voice "I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU FFS" will drop your priority all the way to the bottom. I don't have eyes in the back of my head.

[–]VoluptuousBearChibi Ashe 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I understand completely. I don’t usually spam for heals, but my issue was this Ana wasn’t in voice, and legit was being a dps Ana in main door on point B on horizon.

I just avoided and moved on. But I swear these 2 weeks of beta are going to be terrible. Since most people just want to see where they place in each role.

[–]skol_babyChibi Ana 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Let me take this moment to call to attention my biggest gripe as an Ana player. The best way to get heals from Ana is being in front of her. The level of effort it takes to move the mouse slightly to left or right versus 180 behind then 180 to front is not worth it. Especially in the middle of an engagement where keeping up the tanks is a high priority. Shes old and slow so FYI don't wait behind an Ana for heals any where in her LOS is gonna get better results.

Edit: Shoot rein Shoot rein, oh genji is on fire shoot genji, back to rein. Etc.

[–]skandaris"Thank you Baptiste!" "Oh! You're welcome!" 15 points16 points  (4 children)

To all DPS healers, instead of Moira or Baptiste, pick Zennyata. Stick you orb in a tank and play the rest of the game as DPS. Ult in case of risk of a team wipe and not for yourself. Happy ending.

[–]DarthEmetMoira 19 points20 points  (2 children)

You're getting downvoted... but having a zen throwing discords and healing a tank is a better option than a Baptiste who only left clicks, so I agree with you.

Edit: parent comment is positive now, it was at ~ -3 when I responded.

[–]skandaris"Thank you Baptiste!" "Oh! You're welcome!" 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yeah, probably by the Moiras DPS, there are too many of them.

[–]Gonnatapdatass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do exactly this with Zenyatta. I must have over 30 hours with this hero so far and yet I can't rank up in Silver for the life of me. If only I could actually survive long enough to do damage and heal my tanks but unfortunately I get blasted by flankers. Zen's biggest weakness is his mobility so once a doomfist or genji closes in on me I'm minced meat unless I land enough on them. Moira is a more popular option, she can heal, do damage and avoid enemies with her fadeaway, she handles Zen very easily as well. The thing is I actually like aiming, and getting kills with Zenyatta is a very rewarding experience, I don't get this same experience with Moira so I don't know what to do with the Support role. No other support hero is nearly as fun as Zen, but he seems to have too many weaknesses without protection.

[–]monk3yondamkPixel Hanzo 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Role queue is awesome. Not resetting the MMR counteracts the effectiveness of role queue unfortunately.

[–]phenomenMei 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I've played like 3 Baptiste games before figuring out he has secondary attack (heal grenade). Before that I've only relied on regeneration aura. At least it was not ranked.


I love the addition but damn this week I've had so many teammates that do pretty much this. A lot of people in support roles that obviously haven't really played it before and don't actually heal

[–]future_potato 9 points10 points  (1 child)

All the people talking about how bad 2-2-2 is. Unreal. It's almost like they've forgotten the utter shit show that came before it. Now suddenly not being able to switch to a 3rd DPS or something similar is the world's biggest problem. Do these people remember that their uncooperative teammates probably wasn't going to coordinate with them and switch anyway? Or what it's like to run a match with no tanks, or just a Hammond with 4 dps and a zen? It's almost like people expect Blizzard to be able to fix stupid.