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  1. The biggest dilemma of the average layman Sunni is that he/she has a very difficult time understanding why history is relevant. They argue that determining the right path to follow (Shia or Sunni) has little or nothing to do with historical facts. This is a very dangerous and foolish way of dealing with things. Every Qu'ranic ayah as well as hadith of the Prophet's Sunnah was given in a proper historical context. There is a background behind every ayah and verse, and without that background, there is no proper understanding of the ayah/verse possible. To say history is irrelevant is to say that understanding the ayah and verse according to the time they were given is irrelevant as well. It makes no sense. Also, why should we follow certain individuals with the assumption that they were morally and ethically grounded simply because they had the company of the Prophet (saw)? Why ignore important historical events that point to facts otherwise? It's extremely difficult sometimes to relay this to certain Sunnis, because their mindsets are so fixed on the idea that the Sahabah (each and every single one) were pristine and immaculate. They rule out a companion's wrong action as a "misunderstanding" or "exaggeration" and that's that. End of story. No more discussing it. With that kind of attitude, nothing will be learned or accomplished and we'll remain set in our ways, scared of changing and learning an alternative, more logical perspective. A Salafi friend of mine converted to Shi'ism very recently. She said that as she was researching and read about different incidents in history where the Prophet's (saw) family was abused and persecuted, she cried because all throughout her childhood and teenage/adult life, these historical facts were concealed by Salafi teachers. She cried for the years that she was ignorant and had no clue that so much was hidden from her. There was a hush, hush policy in which the mistakes of the Sahabah were never discussed or brought up out of the fear that people would question them and turn to other ideologies that were more rational and objective.
  2. Jazak'Allahu khairan, brother. Do you know of any of the students of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq who believed in his Shia ideoogy? Also, the reason why I suggested that the Imam taught under taqiyyah was because a couple of the posters above said that he taught general fiqh classes to thousands of students. They were general because of the persecution the Imam and his family would face otherwise. That's why I was asking who his true Shia followers were if he taught under taqiyyah. The Sunnis who I'm discussing this with often times bring up that question.
  3. An argument posted to me was the following: If Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (as) was secretly a Shia, then who were his followers when he preached Shia ideology in private? These large fiqh classes were based on the state religion, so how was Jafar's ideology spread and to who?
  4. Jazak'Allahu khairan for the thoughtful and comprehensive responses. Insha'Allah, I look forward to hearing more. Keep them coming! :)
  5. I have been engaging in Shia/Sunni dialogue with a couple of individuals from my university. One of them brought up a point that I addressed, but I was wondering what could be an even more adequate way to answer it. I know this question has been brought up many a time on this forum, but none of the arguments I pose seem to work on these people. Therefore, I ask for a new perspective. Question: Why is it that Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Malik, the two students of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (a.s.), turned out to be two of the *greatest* Sunni imams of the Sunni sect rather than embracing the creed of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (a.s.)? This only leads them to infer that Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (a.s.) was a Sunni, rather than a Shia as we claim.
  6. Brother Hasan Sajjad has some copies... send him a private message!
  7. Someone reply to the poor brother! He asked a question!
  8. Hasan Sajjad and Mrs. Hasan Sajjad deserve another "mubarak" post from each of you :) Their nikkah was last night, alhamdulillah. Now everyone congratulate them! May Allah (swt) bless them.
  9. First thing I did was say salaam. And FYI, I did not blast in! Someone answered the door. You wouldn't even know since you were sitting in the living room. Don't distort the facts! And I had told Bismillah from the beginning that that was how I would introduce her to you guys. And if I had used her actual name, no one would have known who I was talking about!
  10. So I finally had the pleasure of meeting one of my best friends in the whole wide world for the first time ever. Finally! Well, yeah...as you can see, I was pretty excited when I saw her in NYC. I ran out of my car and went straight towards her in the middle of the street to hug her...I think we would have probably gotten run over if it weren't for someone pointing out that there were cars coming, lol. Bismillah was VERY much like how I had envisioned her...she's masha'Allah, an AWESOME person that I'm so glad to have had the privilege of meeting, and insha'Allah I hope there are many more visits to come (from both ends!) The moments while I was driving and there was absolute silence were hilarious. "Soooo!" Haha, Bismillah... you crack me up. She really was a fun person to hang with. I miss her so much, although it did not quite sink in yet that I met Bismillah from Shiachat, haha. We were standing in a supermarket and all the sudden, I'm like, "WOW, who would have known I would be standing next to Bismillah from SC in some supermarket someday!" Life is quite strange. Anyways, I don't want to make this too long. I think Bismillah pretty much said it all in her extremely thorough first post, haha. Again, it was REALLY nice meeting you and there will be many more times to come, insha'Allah. We'll stick in a lot more the next time you're over... and then you'll actually have a lot of things to talk about in this thread!
  11. Hmm, I think it's a little disrespectful to be taking Qu'ranic ayats out of context like you are, brother. They have little or nothing to do with anything that was said? The Qu'ran shouldn't be quoted in that manner.
  12. LOL! That lady was hilariousssss! I found it hard to stop myself from smiling.
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