Shooting and Crying – Nothing New Since 1948… Or is it?

Posted: 04/04/2009 by editormary in Counter-terrorism, No thanks!, Culture and Heritage, Nakba and Right of Return, Newswire, Palestine, Religion, Resistance, War, Zionism
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WRITTEN BY Anis Hamadeh





Deir Yassin and the Human Rights
























We may still save the rest






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  1. Yisrael Medad says:

    You write: “When the future Prime Minister Menachem Begin had the Arab village of Deir Yassin attacked on April 9 and many of its inhabitants killed”

    Actually, he had no pre-knowledge of the attack. It was all in the hands of the local Irgun commander. The village itself had been overrun with Iraqi irregulars and with the villagers, snipings began directed at Jewish targets, specifically the neighborhood of Bet haKerem and Bayit Vegan as Davar reports in its April 4th edition, page 4. So, once again, in targeting Jewish civilians, the Arabs opened themselves up to be attacked in response.

    At least you didn’t write that the inhabitants were massacred because when the attacking force of Irgun and Lehi suffered 5 dead and over forty injured, it was obvious that a battle took place. The original number of 254 casualties was later reduced by the Bir Zeit University research team that interviewed the survivors and couldn’t find more than 110 killed. Two residents, interviewed for the BBC’s “Fifty Years War” program admitted that claims of atrocities were made up by local Palestine Arab Higher Committee publicists.

  2. There is an Arabic saying that goes like this ( darabani wa baka, wa sabaqani wa shtaka). Translated ( He beats me and he cried, and he was the first to complain). Until now the Palestinians failed to deal with the issue of the Israeli/Jewish crimes. The Jews made it a point to go after ALL those who committed murder and crimes against the Jews including prison guards and they succeeded. So far the Palestinians have done nothing, ZERO.

  3. AnneBeck says:


    How can the Palestinians “go after” those (zionists) who perpetrated these vicious crimes against them? At this point, Palestinians have NO power, whatsoever. They have nobody on their side to see that this is done. Even the UN has backed down and allowed the zionists to decide whether or not to look into these war-crimes (the fox guarding the hen-house, managed by more foxes)..
    How can Palestinians— how can ANY non-Jew ensure that Israeli zionist war-mongers are tried and/or imprisoned for these crimes?? Nobody who can do anything cares enough to DO anything, after all!
    Maybe the U.S. will finally place some conditions on the thusfar unquestioning support (esp financial and military support) of Israel? And, maybe I am simply dreaming?
    It’s horrific what ziionists have done for decades. Of course, it has only gotten worse in the recent past. Or, perhaps, in this age of the internet, we simply KNOW more?
    Prior to the recent “cast-lead” genocide, I understood that the Muslims MUST be at fault for their predicament. I then began to investigate outside of the U.S. news; I subscribed to Jewish Voice for Peace and other similar sites, and I learned that it truly IS the zionists perpetrating these horrors. Amazing what a little knowledge will do.., eh?

  4. AnneBeck. I tell you how. Arafat and the PLO paid a business broker, a friend of Suha Arafat the sum of $ 28 millions in compensation for a a promised commission on a telecom deal. The man who got the $28 million was non other than the man who was in charge of the Lebanese Phalange forces as they went ahead massacring Palestinians in Sabra and Shatila. Also the PLO for an on behalf of Abu-Alabbas, paid the family of Klinghoffer, the American Jew who was overthrown overboard in his wheel chair from the Achilles Loro. The US courts are holding the sum of $140 millions of the PLO money in escrow to satisfy the claim of the estate of an American Jew killed in Jerusalem. The PLO and its leadership have the hundreds of millions to spend on its leadership, from multi-million dollar homes to expensive cars to first class travel and hotels, to Cuban cigar at a cost of $25 each, to paying some $60,000 annually on many of the children of the leaders to study in the US etc, yet this miserable and failed organization does not have the money to spend on and fund the establishment of a Palestine Documentation Center that can track and bring to trial all Israeli and Jewish criminals. Not only that but the PLO does not think it is necessary to document the rights of all those who lost their properties with the establishment of Israel. What is needed something similar to the Simon Wiesenthal Center fully staffed with legal, financial and property experts to documents crimes and property rights of Jews? I was in Vienna few months ago and I was taken by a Jewish friend to an apartment on the outskirt of Vienna where in 39 the Nazi came, evicted her grandparents and through the furniture from the window. Now through the hard work of the center, her mother will receive compensation for the value of the furniture which the Nazi through from the balcony. Now that is persistent, that is leadership, that is commitment and smart, something our leadership certainly lack. Do you know the PLO never opened a formal investigation into the murders in Sabra and Shatilla and never opened an formal investigation into the war crimes committed in Gaza. The leadership is self serving and should be put on trial.

  5. David says:


    I’m an American and growing up my father was what you would call a Christian Zionist. It wasn’t something he talked about a lot so I was never brainwashed into it. In fact, it always seemed just strange and wrong to me. Once when I was in my twenties a friend sent me a series of pictures depicting a Palestinian kid who appeared to be subdued and possibly hand-cuffed on the ground by several policemen. He was then shot and was clearly dead in the last picture laying in the same spot. My friend claimed it was evidence of Israeli abuses. I was skeptical, thinking that since I wasn’t there I couldn’t judge for sure. But I asked my dad what his thoughts were on the killings of Palestinian civilians in Israel’s wars, which even then I knew about. He replied that since God had given the land to Israel they had the right to kill anyone who tried to keep them from it. I think that was the beginning of my awakening to the plight of Palestine. But in the end it took many more years before I learned how much is really left out of American news coverage. In any case, I’m sure you are still justified in being skeptical about whether the world will pay any more attention now than it used too. But the one thing I want to point out is that in ’48 and ’67 the media of the world were much more centrally controlled and most of the public in most Western countries were dependent on what those media chose to tell them. I’m sure a certain number of people knew what was really happening even then. But those in power could always slant it or spin it in the media and had an interest in doing so. In addition many of the older generation, powerful or not, were still thinking in terms of the WWII and were either still under the spell of the Holocaust and therefore unlikely to speak out against a Jewish nation or they were, like my grandfather, simply isolationist and possibly racist against Jews and Arabs anyway. But nowadays three things have changed. One, there is, of course, the internet so information is not centrally controlled like it used to be. (Though I’ve heard that due to international treaties currently under discussion, such as ACTA new controls might be enacted. Probably very mildly at first, but it’s always a gradual movement so as not to alarm anyone.) And this brings me to my second point. While the internet has been around for a while, and so you might argue it hasn’t had that much impact, it’s becoming more and more important. More newspapers in the US are failing, and more kids are growing up in the internet age. Less people are watching even cable news, and are getting their news online. This is the chance for blogs like this to break the hold that the Zionist influence has over American media. (Which in my mind is incredibly powerful and pervasive.) And the third point is that people in the US, grow up much more liberal and politically correct these days. So they are less likely to be racist and more likely to be against anything that even looks like apartheid. Thus I think there is real reason to hope that this last Gaza massacre is the tipping point when kids in America will begin to wonder why their counter-parts in Europe are protesting for the Palestinians. The American media can’t keep Americans from being informed like it used to. That said, the lack of real education and prevalence of willful ignorance in America is still a factors that have to dealt with, as is general apathy about government which no longer represents the people. But that’s another story.

  6. AnneBeck says:

    Yes, Samil. Arafat may not have been the best for Palestine. But, Arafat is dead. The PLO seems to be dead these days, too.
    Yes, perhaps the Palestinians could learn a lesson about persistance from your friend’s mother, but I think they are more concerned with living at this point.
    And, at this point, there is truly nobody to speak up for them; there is, at least, no Zionist Jew who cares to listen to ANY Palestinian. It is why I believe America and other nations with power DO need to come to aide of the Palestinian people. Until there is a TRUE cease-fire *from the side of the Israelis, I don’t see any negotiations or anything positive for Palestinians.

    Sadly, in America, we have far too many blinded by the “news” we get out of israel/Palestine… Thankfully, I was sent to other news programs, out of other countries where the people care and their news is not run by the Israeli lobby. The ONE positive thing I see these days is that the newspapers in the US seem to be dropping like flies, opening up other online (from other countries, especially) sources for truth-filled news. I found this site with ONE search term, after all.

  7. Mary Rizzo says:

    Glad you found us Anne, and thanks for sharing your thoughts. You are right, there is something that forbids all Zionists (Jewish or otherwise) from listening to Palestinians, although they do listen to a few Arabs that they know are easy to manipulate like Chalabi, Zogby, Mahmoud Abbas, Dahlan, who are willing to play the game and sell out Arab people.

    The mass media in the US, but not only there, does not necessarily need to be run by the Israeli Lobby, it is good enough to know what is expected and to come up with the goods.
    I regularly translate Giulietto Chiesa, please read what he says about all of this.

  8. AnneBeck says:

    @Mary Rizzo

    Thank you for the welcome AND, especially, for the links. I have started with the first and expect I will need far much more time to read and digest it. One that particularly looks interesting to me is “My kharma ran over your Dogma..”. I’m sure much of this will be worth the time and query, and passing on to others who will possibly pass on even further.
    It’s so wonderful to find this online community of people who truly do care about Palestine and Arab/Muslim people, especially when confronted on a daily basis by those who feel the exact opposite. Living in the U.S., I find myself disheartened, regularly.
    Thanks again. I am looking forward to “meeting up”, much more often, here and there!

  9. amos zukerman says:

    @Yisrael Medad – You are an arrogant, racist, Naqba denier.

  10. AnneBeck says:

    @amos zukerman
    Yes, I just read this comment you refer to.. wow.. Even IF what this commenter said were true, “ONLY 110 dead”, it’s more than enough. Surely, it is far more than “5”.

    RIdiculous what some consider okay.

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