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4:04 PM
@SmokeDetector deleted
@SmokeDetector deleted
:26703146 ah, now I wish I saw the post
(the first one)
@Tunaki wrong deleted.
It was pretty epic
(fun fact, I can't reply to a deleted message)
4:05 PM
> I see your problem, massive lack of JOHHHHN CEEEEEEENA
(even though I can read it)
ah, ok. thanks
RO's can read deleted chat messages
nope I can't either. The script points to it but it just becomes a plan @
ah didn't know
I wonder if it is the same user from a couple months ago. It is a new account but I think the last account was destroyed for the same antics.
@NathanOliver This guy posted a similar post earlier today
4:09 PM
@NathanOliver what, this?
This post (edited mistake)
@gunr2171 No not that once. It was funny though.
4:21 PM
@DavidG I've had many of those days, too. But... \o/ This is my best rep day ever! (by +6) Still haven't maxed out, but there's a bounty due in a few hours.
@Mogsdad Feels good when you hit the 200 mark! I think my max was 355 in 1 day.
@DavidG I'm definitely in the wrong tag for that, but maybe someday...
@Mogsdad It will happen by accident one day, one of your posts will hit the hot network questions list and suddenly that answer you thought was average at best will suddenly hit 50 votes.
@Mogsdad what are you at so far today?
@TylerH 130, last I looked
4:32 PM
time to start down voting answers
@Mogsdad nice, is that your best including bounties?
@TylerH Seems strange, but yes. I've answered a few bounties that the OP just let rot.
A bit worried about today's, since I answered it days ago.
My best single-day gain is 510; funnily enough only 10 of that is from answer rep, the other 500 came from a bounty awarded to that answer that got the upvote
that answer has gotten me a total of like 1100 - 1200 rep so far
4:35 PM
@TylerH Now that's a bounty. 50 is kinda pedestrian.
Wow nice. Best I have had in one day was 260. that was without any bounties.
@Mogsdad Had one of those recently. "I need a fix for this ASAP TODAY URGENT!" me: "Fix these two things." (two days pass) "I fixed one of the things, it still doesn't work!" "What if you fix both?" (crickets forever, half-bounty eventually awarded by default)
@Mogsdad yeah 50 does kinda feel small a lot of the time for the effort you have to put in
@PaulRoub lol "fix two things" "I fixed one, still broken"
Today of all days, not complaining about rep, though. Today is "What would I even do with site analytics data?" day.
Ooh, analytics, talk dirty to me baby.
4:38 PM
@PaulRoub Congrats on the 25K
Yeah, I got that a few days ago, looked at the analytics once and not since. I feel like there should be a 50k target to aim for now.
@NathanOliver Gracias.
And congrats too
@DavidG moderator :-P
lol. there would be a lot of moderators
4:40 PM
I don't think I could handle that, I'd be deleting and banning all over the place.
@NathanOliver maybe the site would be clean then...
TBH I think the site could use about 3 - 4 more moderators
Meanwhile, an answer from July 2014 was just accepted. Maybe Mr. Bounty Man will write back one day.
especially 1 or 2 in certain tags/timezones
I wouldn't complain if there were a couple more mods running around.
I do sometimes think the mods are overworked, especially when I see flags ageing away.
4:54 PM
A: For loop error on Codecademy

Aleksei KovalchukI was struggling that also and finally I've understood, what codecademy are saying: ".. its current point in the string + myName.length" Just need to add myName.length. var text = "Aoday I woke up beside the loveliest girl on planet Earth"; var myName = "Aleksei"; var hits = []; for(i=0; i < tex...

"I hope I'm right" strikes me as not a good thing to say in an answer
5:18 PM
Thanks, do you guys never downvote these posts? Or are you out?
@SotiriosDelimanolis I prefer commenting and close-voting, but do downvote when I find the post is of poor quality/wrong
@SotiriosDelimanolis In addition to closing it? What would be the point? This one's off-topic, but it's well-written and coherent.
As a deterrent. Maybe I'm too harsh.
or if you see that it got a +1 somehow and the thing is utter crap that ought to be deleted automagically
@Braiam You're supposed to say "Kindly nominate for Roombaing" =p
5:25 PM
thanks again!
^ Old, but got active recently
5:45 PM
@Kyll You realize it's quite possible for a post to be NAA, VLQ, Spam and Offensive, right?
@Shog9 Plop!
It's been great knowing you'all guys
@Kyll Are you leaving?
He's about to be given a concrete overcoat by Shog9 :)
@NathanOliver I don't know T.T
As a technical matter, NAA and VLQ mostly do the same thing behind the scenes (although they're evaluated slightly differently in edge cases) and the same applies to Spam and Rude/Offensive
5:46 PM
Oh, Ah, Went right over my head
So, pick the flag that seems most right to you. A consensus will emerge and the matter will be handled appropriately.
@Shog9 Well, contrary to close votes consensus is pretty much invisible to us
True, but you can tell if the flag is approved or declined, and whether the post is deleted or left.
Wouldn't a more uniformly applied rule ease the handling process of such posts?
Not really
5:48 PM
Okay, does that mean I can pick a random flag (except custom) each time I flag gibberish? Because if it means that I am going to be very happy.
I guess we just wanted to know how best to handle a gibberish post without giving the overworked mods even more stuff to do unless that's the best way to do it.
Handling them boils down to
 |    Yes -> Delete with penalty -> Yes
 |                     |
 v                    v
No                 No
so much for ascii flowcharts
you got one critical choice regardless of flag
Random voting it is \o/
Okay. I know I ws just looking for what is most appropriate for answers with ;dlfnad;gna;eohaag;lg
@DavidG doesn't really matter. If it looks spammy, spam-flag it. If it looks rude/abusive/offensive, use that flag. Otherwise use whichever VLQ/NAA you can hit first.
5:51 PM
^ Speaking of NAA
@NathanOliver if it's a new user, that's probably abuse. If it's not, their cat probably sat on the keyboard.
Damn cats
So that means we should go for spam/offensive to destroy the content with spam accumulation?
@Kyll if that's plausible, sure. If it looks like the cat thing, then no - NAA would suffice.
A good criteria would then be a no-badge 1 rep user then
5:53 PM
if it's a new user, it doesn't matter (and spam is plausible). If it's someone who has reasonable posts elsewhere, then that spam flag will be declined because it'd mess them up for what was probably an innocent mistake.
Trivia: at one point, spam/offensive were the only flags in the system, so we used them for everything (also, there was no concept of a declined flag). The other flag types were added mostly for the benefit of the flaggers.
I get it now. Thanks a lot for the info!
Yeah, that's really helpful, ty
Thanks for the explanation.
I like the differentiation between new and existing user, though I think these have all been new.
6:20 PM
@cimmanon, on this post, by saying up front "When using the BEM naming convention", wouldn't that make it less POB?
or are those sets of rules still broad enough where the actual decision is left up to the user?
So err... now that Shog's been present and spoken - does the become redundant? :p
The whole "do we continue with burnination" is still up in the air
I really want that meta post sytem to turn out
same here
@Shog9 if you're still here, can you mark my meta question as a cross-site dupe of the one you answered on MSE?
Is there anything about just giving someone working code that is having problems with a homework assignment?
6:28 PM
@TylerH cross-site duplicates aren't a thing
await for meeting, back in a few hours
oh, I thought I had seen that once or twice before
in the case of a meta question being answered already on MSE
@NathanOliver some people frown upon that but technically it's fine as long as the question follows the help center guidelines
@TylerH Okay. I just wasn't sure how this site handles it.
they frowned upon because they're often seen as "gimme teh codez" questions (and sometimes they are just that), but if the question follows the rules and could be useful for others then I would answer it, if it's something I know and doesn't have an answer yet
I guess it kind of reveals a schism between people who see SO as a site where you learn how to be a programmer vs a site where you strictly learn how to be a better programmer
I would say you can't argue the latter anymore because we have questions like "what is scope" or "how can I nest elements"
Note to self: never provoke a mod to begin a Meta answer with "Alright, if you want to do this in public..."
6:44 PM
@PaulRoub did you see that somewhere?
@PaulRoub Probably best :p
A: What to do with a moderator abusing his privileges?

Brad LarsonAlright, if you want to do this in public, I can explain myself in greater detail. First, I warned you about an obvious sock puppet account of yours that I deleted today. I'm also pretty sure that your third account is serving a year-long suspension for being abusive to users, Stack Exchange emp...

@gunr2171 unless the language explictly enforces it, naming conventions are pretty opinionated by their very nature
7:25 PM
^ Attracted answer
Couldn't help myself, hand-drawn red circle added to my meta post :)
"To use BEM you literally do not need nothing besides BEM naming." yikes
That sentence alone is enough for me to never use BEM
7:52 PM
@SmokeDetector why?
@NathanOliver Body - Position 483-488: fucks
@NathanOliver "(... CSS fucks up)"
@SmokeDetector edited
In this question, OP tried to define a global but failed. As the syntax is correct, I asked for more data. An answer took a guess and basically told OP to add the files he defines the global in to his package. Answer is accepted, but the question still has no MCVE. What do I do? Edit an imaginary one in?
Hi all
7:59 PM
@Kyll You'd be justified in leaving it alone or voting to close it
I dunno about editing one in
Plop JAL
^ it is asking where to report bugs
it had a bounty earlier so i couldn't close it
@JAL I added a more descriptive close reason
^ Anyway my two best answers already cover this very topic
8:16 PM
@clo alive
@rene I feel fine.
lucky you
aw man
it should be happy, not fine
!!feature request: "@closey how are you?" should also trigger the "alive" response
@TylerH Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
Thank you
8:30 PM
You're welcome
Also I miss the "I think I'll go for a walk" response :-(
@Closey next 5 tags
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Closey starting
@TylerH May the Vote be with you!
8:51 PM
@TylerH Done.
oh good
@Closey starting
@rene Good luck!
@TylerH Only applies to v2 though.
also will the bot really only tell you your average review time per minute or will it give per seconds if you're fast enough
8:59 PM
@TylerH That'll be @gunr's decision.
@TylerH "Your average review time is 0.75ms. rene, is that you?"
back, what's going on @TylerH?
He wants closey to become a real boy ;)
@TylerH whatever time units apply (if I understand you correctly). If you are only in the seconds it will be seconds, if you are in the minutes it will be "1 minute and 34 seconds", etc
9:22 PM
so many pings
so little time
@TylerH - What do you mean? (Sorry couldn't help it)
@TylerH Hey! Hey apple!
we could make it worse for you?
9:24 PM
@TylerH You don't like pings?
You guys are literally the worst
@TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH @TylerH
and I'm done
Luckily I just muted the channel
do each of those turn green for you?
It would be awesome if we could space them and actually get the pings to play a tune.
user script feature request: different ping sounds per person
Would be too evil if the chat went p-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ing on that :P
Did you guys ever see where they made rumble strips on pavement play a song?
9:28 PM
thats pretty old :p
later guys
oh and at some point I need your email @NathanOliver for slack
though we can't do anything until durron gets back
no prob
brb signing up nathan for all the free deals and nigerian princes
please don't. It was gunr with the super ping
9:31 PM
Nathan now has the power to kick you into the ground
good thing I'm already in the ground
at least, my toes are
does sand count as ground?
are you on the beach?
If your toes are in sand what are you doing in a chat room?
9:33 PM
no, I brought a water tub thing to work to massage my feet and decided to dump some sand in to make it seem like I'm at the beach
I was gonna make some mai tais but the manager frowned upon that
gtg later
^ I think that is the appropriate response
I'm out as well, cya
9:34 PM
Passed C++ audit
Passed VBA audit
What happened to @rene I wonder...
I'm distracted...
@gunr2171 Just butchered the third boss of Forced with my friend, did all 3 crystals on it
10:02 PM
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 1 hour to continue reviewing.
@Closey last session stats
@rene Your last completed review session ended 24 seconds ago and lasted 1 hour, 7 minutes and 26 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 1 minute and 41 seconds.
darn, he just beat me
10:05 PM
@Closey audit stats
@TylerH Stats of all tracked audits by tag:
 | Tag Name             | %     | Count |
 | C++                  | 17.56 | 23    |
 | C#                   | 13.74 | 18    |
 | Java                 | 12.98 | 17    |
 | PHP                  | 9.92  | 13    |
 | JavaScript           | 6.11  | 8     |
 | Python               | 5.34  | 7     |
 | iOS                  | 3.05  | 4     |
 | Delphi               | 3.05  | 4     |
 | algorithm            | 2.29  | 3     |
 | Android              | 2.29  | 3     |
@TylerH 8 JavaScript, 1 Javascript =p
So there were three "algorithm" audits... those must've been good ones for sure
I'll be back later to run the queues... Cheers!
@TylerH hammered by cim
Are we allowed to say "hammered"?
10:18 PM
there are even t shirts for restaurants that say that
There are also t-shirts that say "boom", yet "boom" has been banned from this room as response to cv-pls'es.
since when
@TylerH Last meeting
Due to the negativity carried by "boom"s
@Kyll The meeting.
It has become a boring room after all those silly rules...
10:25 PM
I don't see that in his big post
only Lynn's response to it
I'll look earlier before the beginning of the meeting
@TylerH Look later
about 20 min in or so
But from the start to Lynn's message saying "as gunr said earlier" it doesn't appear
so it must be before, no?
What we basically want to prevent is to much celebration of questions being closed
Ah, you're right
2 days ago, by Lynn Crumbling
As @gunr2171 mentioned earlier, it seems appropriate to stop reporting a closure with "boom" or even "success", but a simple, unemotional "closed" would be enough.
that was that
10:48 PM
Ok, I'm out for the night ...
11:32 PM
<snicker>GAS passing</snicker> — j08691 Mar 13 '13 at 17:23
@SmokeDetector why?\
@Mogsdad Body - Position 1862-1876: oconverter.com
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