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RE: money money money
By someguy123 on 1/29/2007 7:30:04 PM , Rating: 2
That is true, but he also added "-which they will-" to the line....basicly saying people are willing to/have the kind of money to throw at such a system.

Don't get me wrong, the ps3 is quite the system....however annoying to developers and costly it maybe. It's just that Rein's attitude and comments seem to show that he believes gamers SHOULD be throwing money at devs/consoles as though money flows the streets.

RE: money money money
By greyfade on 1/29/2007 8:07:40 PM , Rating: 2
The base model of the PS3 is $499. The 4GB iPhone will be $499.

People are expected to buy the iPhone in droves.

Explain that.

RE: money money money
By Frosen on 1/29/2007 8:28:20 PM , Rating: 3
That's different. Owning an iPhone is a status symbol for people, just like owning a luxury car. A PS3 does not hit the same market of people, nor does it have the same sort of status influence. One would buy a PS3 to play games or watch movies, but one buys an iPhone to look cool and impress people, many could careless about its increased functionality or ability to play music. I get your point, but the two just don't relate.

RE: money money money
By TomZ on 1/29/2007 8:31:08 PM , Rating: 1
Owning an iPhone will be an easy way for the rest of us to identify an fool from a distance. As in, "a fool and his (her) money are soon separated."

iPhone's impact to the cell phone market will be small. Even if they achieve their 10M unit goal, that is still a small fraction of the overall market.

RE: money money money
By dagamer34 on 1/29/2007 9:58:37 PM , Rating: 2
You cannot easily parade around a PS3 as you can an iPhone, iPod or car, thus, it can't as EASILY fall into pop icon status. I say "as easily", since the Wii is definitely on it's way to being "it" for 2007.

RE: money money money
By jtesoro on 1/30/07, Rating: 0
RE: money money money
By ViperROhb34 on 1/30/2007 10:30:07 AM , Rating: 2
You're missing the point. People who drive luxury cars are outnumbered by Ford, Chevrolet and Honda drivers.

The put this into perspective Luxury car drivers make alot of money of their cars. iphone most likely doesnt cost 800 dollars to make like a PS3. So they'll make money and money off downloads.

Sony loses money on each PS3. The only way for them to come back is to sell so many PS3's they make it all back on software sales ( and yes BLu-ray movie sales )- which wouldnt happen for several years.

If they were fortunate to somehow come in even second place Im not sure if they'd make a profit with 200-300 dollars on each console ?

RE: money money money
By ViperROhb34 on 1/30/2007 10:35:20 AM , Rating: 1
On the last sentence.. I mean 200-300 dollar loses on each console. Sell 5-6 million consoles the 1st year and you're number three and not selling enough software. Come in second place.. sell 13 million multiply that by 250 dollars and that comes to 3 BILLION dollars in losses that have to be made up in Software by Sony.

The only way for them to make it happen is for Bluray to become a sure success.. This is either the the worse or best bet in the world. And one thing is clear.. They had the arrogance to bet it all because they didnt beleive they were betting.

RE: money money money
By jtesoro on 1/30/2007 11:44:31 AM , Rating: 2
Here's what I'm saying. Some people consider cars simply as a tool for them to get from point A to point B, and that's OK. For others that is part of it, but they also see their car as a way to express themselves or show something about who they are. So they buy a Lexus, and that's fine too.

I could also say the same thing about clothes. Some will get nice no-name sweater and others will get some pricey thingie with a big branded logo on the front.

The person who wants an iPhone probably wants to look cool and in his world maybe an iPhone will make it happen. Come on, after all we know that too many people buy an iPod just because of that.

There's nothing wrong with these people. They've got different needs, different views on their things.

iPhone people are different. Not a problem. Not fools too.

RE: money money money
By retrospooty on 1/29/2007 11:06:24 PM , Rating: 3
"People are expected to buy the iPhone in droves."

I highly doubt it. That is expensive as hell for a phone, regardless of what it does. Treo's and Blackberries got away with that price because it is a business tool where you can get your secure corporate email on the go... Therefore most people expense it to their companies. The iphone does not do that and won't have that option. I wonder who exactly is expecting "droves"... Apple? Isn't Apple the same company that had a superior Personal computer platform at one time and charged 2-3x what the competition was paying and eventually lost their marketshare which now hovers around 3% globally? Apple makes me laugh.

RE: money money money
By jtesoro on 1/30/2007 6:07:46 AM , Rating: 2
I have some doubts as well. However, I wouldn't laugh off so easily a company that is able to dominate a technology market using fashion as a major pillar. Who would have thought MP3 player = "cool"?

Will the iPhone fail? It might. Underestimate it's chances? I'd be very careful.

RE: money money money
By gramboh on 1/30/2007 6:51:13 PM , Rating: 2
No it won't. I know tons of idiots who will line up for presales who also own $5,000+ of Apple hardware/software they can't afford. I make fun of them constantly for overpaying for this stuff.

I'll consider one at a lower pricepoint if data plan costs come down 50%.

RE: money money money
By yak8998 on 2/1/2007 4:16:17 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, I laugh too at how they totally dominate the portable music field as well...

They'll be able to get away with the iphone same way they got away with the ipods. It isn't just the rich that are running out and buying ipods. Your blackberry argument is pretty awful too in relationship to an apple product.


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