Journal News pulls down pistol permit maps



Hasson’s explanation for the disappearance:




The coda:



His statement:


  1. Keith says:

    They came for the 2nd amendment and i did nothing because I didn’t own a gun.

    They came for the 1st amendment……

  2. OLooper says:

    We must close this public information loophole by making records available for all who have firepower, including handguns, semiautomatics, rifles and soon to be registered assault rifles. We also need to closing the hunting license loophole. We want to know where all the guns and gun owners are. I want to know what my kneighbors own and I want law enforcement and firefighters to know before they go the door.

    In a February 2005 FOIL appeal decision regarding a WHEC TV10 FOIL, available by searching online, DEC denied access to the database list of all Hunting Licensees in NY. The listing is now all electronic data in the DECALS program, including the reported kills. It was denied and the State indicated that Hunting licenses are not the same as pistol licenses and no statutory provision states that hunting license applications are public records. We need close this loophole so we can know who has pistol permits (they may not actually hae a pistol) and who has hunting licenses(Those who hunt will likely have powerful weapons) Current annual license sales are over 700,000 and your average hunter has 2.4 weapons.

  3. steven says:

    I would like to see the Journal News post the exact same type of map with the names and addresses of anyone who has been found guilty of a crime or spent time in prison…of course that would never happen.

  4. Mike says:

    The damage has already been done.

  5. Saturday's Article says:

    by Rick Carlin
    “Foes of gun limits reload
    Lawsuits, protest marches planned by opponents of assault-weapon ban

    ALBANY — The gun owners who are upset by Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s successful push for a ban on assault weapons aren’t giving up any time soon.”

    Shame on Rick for writing that. As if the only thing in Cuomo’s midnight rushed law is assault weapons. But that is the way the biased media writes, to make those that think all parts of the law are just objecting to assault weapons. Nothing about magazine size being a backdoor ban on the vast majority of pistols, te registration of guns violating the 1986 Federal Firearms Owners Protection Act, etc.

  6. concerned says:

    You are SO RIGHT. Germany did the same thing – but who remembers that.

    “It doesn’t affect me, so I won’t say anything.” When they finally get to something that DOES affect you there will be no one to help YOU. These are CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS that our country is founded on – ALL OF THEM. Many have DIED protecting ALL OF THESE RIGHTS, regardless of their personal views. They are already ATTACKING the 1st amendment. Bible studies in homes (out west), prohibiting the RIGHT of petition/assemble in DC.

    “All for evil to win is for GOOD PEOPLE to do NOTHING!”

  7. Tony says:

    Olooper…For what purpose do you want to “make records available” for all those who own firearms? Do you feel threatened by the aproximately 4.5 million firearms owners in New York State? Do you want to make it easier for criminals to identify potential targets of opportunity..and I am refering to identifying both those who are unarmed and defenseless against home invasion and assault and those who are armed and a potential target for a burglar who wishes to obtain a firearm illegally. Do you have a similar curiosity about the location of convicted fellons? How about food stamp recipients?

  8. Tim says:

    OLooper, who do you think you are? Who are the “we” that you speak about? Don’t worry about law enforcement, they are trained to assume the worst. Using your logic, they would have information that a residence isn’t armed, let their guard down and be in trouble. Criminals don’t follow laws. What you want to do is put information out there for the sake of the criminals. Would you sleep better knowing where you think the weapons are? Would you be so naive to think that’s all there is? I don’t own any weapons. Never have. But I don’t need to know what my neighbors have and I don’t want the criminals to know either. I prefer to wish the criminals think I may have a gun. You are nosy and wish to punish law abiding citizens. They followed the laws by registering their guns. Some bought guns due to being victimized in some way. Hell, many of those screaming the loudest already have armed people around them. If you are so concerned about the law, try your hand as a police officer. I think your mind may be changed pretty quickly.

  9. Jim says:

    There are too many guns out there and I yet have to hear any compelling reason for owning a gun aside from hunting (you do not do that with assault rifles) or sports (you do not do that with assault rifles either). So why are the 2nd Amendment buffs so upset about an assault weapons ban? Do they want to keep the non existing right to be a menace to society and shoot dozens of people at will? Or for what else are assault rifles made and bought other than to kill people?
    There are still plenty of guns that can legally bought. Way too many for my taste, but sufficient to cover the need for self-defense. That is by the way not covered by the 2nd Amendment, only the freedom of the state is through well-regulated militias. Courts and lawmakers already ignore the ‘militia’ part, but at least take the ‘well-regulated’ a bit more serious these days. So what is all the hubbub about?

  10. OCULUS says:

    Who knew? When the Draft was eliminated, who foresaw that the bulk of the American population would never be exposed to the rigors of weapon knowledge, safety and respect?

    No, I’m not suggesting that everyone who went through the military wants to own a firearm, but at least they each have an appreciation for them and probably a dim recollection of what they meant when DIs gave the seemingly oxymoronic command of muzzles “Up and down range.”

    Seems like a liberal arts “broad exposure” issue to me.

  11. Lets be clear:

    TWO homes on the list were recently broken into.

    In the most recent burglary the other day two safes were broken into and two pistols and permits were stolen.

    The owners of the Journal News know they are about to get sued since they obviously provided a roadmap for the burglars. And if one of those guns is used to kill someone, look out. The victim will own the newspaper.

    Their lawyers told them to take the site down to limit their liability. Period.

  12. ProDave says:

    Well I guess now the gun burglars are just going to have to target houses with pickup trucks “insured by Smith & Wesson” parked out front.

  13. ITTI:

    I fail to see where that liability would come from. Firstly, the Journal News posted public records accessible to anyone. Secondly, at this time there is no link between the list and the robberies.

    While sure, someone can find an attorney willing to take just about any case, on a case this thin – “that dog don’t hunt.”

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