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User avatar #2 - dxninjaxo (11/02/2013) [-]
ive learned that canada won, is that not what other people learned?
User avatar #56 to #2 - guywithafork (11/03/2013) [-]
America also thinks they won the Vietnam war.
User avatar #21 to #2 - nervaaurelius (11/03/2013) [-]
Doesn't count. You guys were still apart of the British Empire.
User avatar #11 to #2 - DmOnZ (11/02/2013) [-]
#6 to #2 - dodosareextinct (11/02/2013) [-]
I learned that no one won, is that not what other people learned?
User avatar #7 to #6 - ishallsmiteyou (11/02/2013) [-]
Technically speaking, Canada won. The primary US objective was to capture the Canadas (Canada, in 1812, was divided into East and West Canada) and the americans failed to complete said objective. The Canadian's objective was to stand our ground, and they did.
User avatar #353 to #7 - InflictorOfPain (12/01/2013) [-]
How can canada win if it didn't exist as an independent country? That's BS, since you were part of the British empire. And the Brits invaded the US and they also failed. The whole war started because the Brits kept supplying native insurgents with weapons and they attacked US citizens.
User avatar #279 to #7 - damping (11/04/2013) [-]
No, the US's primary objective was to stop England from harassing our trade routes with France and to stop them limiting our expansion west. The main reason we attacked Canada was so we had some negotiating power. Plus Canada didn't win, they were not a country. Either the US won or England won.
#215 to #7 - anonymous (11/03/2013) [-]
How could a nation with a birthdate of 1867 win a war in 1812?

Didn't Canada try to take New Orleans during the war and failed?
User avatar #252 to #215 - ishallsmiteyou (11/03/2013) [-]
it was a colony, smartass. Just like America or the Falkland Islands.
User avatar #132 to #7 - ugottanked (11/03/2013) [-]
didnt the canadians burn down the white house? i have forgotten that one fact if they did or not
User avatar #354 to #132 - InflictorOfPain (12/01/2013) [-]
Burning down one building is still kind of irrelevant. The whole canadian city of toronto was torched by the US.
User avatar #182 to #132 - ishallsmiteyou (11/03/2013) [-]
the whitehouse was torched by actual british soldiers during the counter invasion.
User avatar #276 to #182 - ugottanked (11/03/2013) [-]
ah, my mistake. now i feel like a dumbass
User avatar #78 to #7 - srskate (11/03/2013) [-]
I was pretty sure the war of 1812 arose because the brtis were being douchebags by sinking our ships and impressing our soldiers.
#64 to #7 - anonymous (11/03/2013) [-]
upper and lower canada
#27 to #7 - anonymous (11/03/2013) [-]
If that's the case, than Poland attacked Russia, and not Germany.
User avatar #23 to #7 - dxninjaxo (11/03/2013) [-]
yeah i guess. if i think of it like in risk where if you get attacked and u survive, you've won the fight. Also from the comments i've sorta learned that by "inconclusive" it just means America doesn't want to admit they lost lol.
#20 to #7 - anonymous (11/03/2013) [-]
>make objective - to lose
>always win
>instant war victor
User avatar #60 to #20 - zonryu (11/03/2013) [-]
but thats a paradox

>become winner my your lose
>fail objective by completing objective that made you win
>failing the objective makes you lose
>comleted objective again and wins
>fail again for same reason
User avatar #19 to #7 - gilliam (11/03/2013) [-]
The invader is losing as long as the war is not won, the defender is winning as long as it is not lost.
#8 to #7 - datbear (11/02/2013) [-]
well the british had a war goal to take the Michigan area and make it a huge reserve for native americans
User avatar #9 to #8 - ishallsmiteyou (11/02/2013) [-]
That was just one objective of many. Technically Canada still one, although the British counter invasion failed.
#16 to #9 - datbear (11/02/2013) [-]
well, I guess america with its 12000 army and its 17 ships were kinda destine to fail.
User avatar #4 to #2 - sequel (11/02/2013) [-]
I think people are still debating on who benefited more from the war, but we know for certain the US didn't win.

The main thing the internet is debating on is..
Who fought the US? Canada or the British Empire?
User avatar #17 to #4 - DmOnZ (11/02/2013) [-]
I believe that if you Moved to Canada, regardless of whether it was a British colony, you were Canadian (unless you were a part of the British army). While the british did fight, most of those engaging the US forces were Canadian militia. While Canada wasn't an established independent country until 1867, it was still identified as Upper and Lower Canada, and those who moved there or were born there were identified by the British empire as Canadian Citizens living under British Rule. Think of it as any other British Colony. Those who were moved to or lived in Australia were Australians recognized as British Citizens.
#3 to #2 - itsmedumbass (11/02/2013) [-]
Canadian here, and I have no idea why the history is changed south of the border.
User avatar #5 to #3 - emrakul (11/02/2013) [-]
You see, I was taught that we won (side effect of living near New Orleans) and then, in higher grades, that the war was basically inconclusive.
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