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John de Rosier

47 Responses

  1. edgar says:

    So, steveyo, BO has not returned the political contributions of the people employed by the evil corporation, BP.

    Do people tend to make political contributions to candidates, because the contributors either agree with the positions of, or wish to influence the positions of, candidates? Why would so many people, who benefit from BP’s involvement in “big oil,” contribute to BO, unless they agreed with BO, or wished to influence him? Does the fact that the checks came from BP employees, rather than BP itself, obscure the intent of the contributions? Why would the people of big oil find BO’s positions to be worthy of support, unless BO were a stooge of big oil?

    I don’t think that BO hates Gulf people, anymore than Bush hates black people, either.

  2. iknowtruthismine says:

    edgar – Even though I do not share some of steveyo’s suspected charitable appeals to your supposed character, I do think he has tried to explain to you in a thoughtful manner, that which I would not do due to the fact that, to you, it would have no meaning. I therefore repeat his last post in the hope that by rereading it, you might gain a bit of understanding of why most don’t consider what you say as worthy of the time it would take to compose a response to what is basically just the flinging of Right-wing pap. Again steveyo’s considered post.

    “30.#25 – Edgar: When you write in these blogs, you doggedly insist on receiving an answer to a question or questions onto which you have latched. Fair enough. However, you almost never even respond to the questions or thoughts in others’ posts, except to repeat your query. Do you not even read the other posts? Are you going to read this? I know you’re a smart, thoughtful person, so please try to address the points raised by other here.

    In my post #24, I carefully addressed your assertion that BP itself gave Obama money, yet you slid past my correction with nary an acknowledgment of your having spouted misleading information. You simply rephrased your question as if that is what you’d originally asked.

    Even so, I will answer your questions. Yes, Obama took campaign $ from BP employees, (not from BP itself). No, Obama did not return individuals’ contributions, even those from people who work for BP. Presumably, the donations in question were given because those people believed Obama would be a better president than alternative candidates, which may or may not actually be the case. And no, I don’t think he hates people who dwell near the gulf.”

    Now edgar, try to gain something from what he has said, because I don’t think he will remain patient, or charitable, enough to do do it again, if you continue your present form of narrow and ill-considered dialogue

  3. edgar says:

    That you recognize the reality that BO has not returned the political campaign contributions, made to him by people who profit from “big oil,” is a tremendous step for you ik!

    Now, tell me again how evil “big oil” is, and rationalize away BO’s acceptance of big oil contributions and refusal to return big oil’s contributions to his campaign.

  4. iknowtruthismine says:

    edgar – Considering that there are thousands of people employed by the oil industry, and that of those thousands, many will be individuals who are, because of their unique position, able to grasp that the policies they observe as part of their jobs, are not in the best interests of the country, it is not outside the probability that many would. They are allowed to personally contribute to whomever they wish, and I would hope that of all these thousands of people that many will possess a social conscience that you clearly could use a bit of exposure to. It is not like the Right-wing Moonie Cult, whose members were used in-order to hide the fact that that organization was funneling money to Rightist candidates, through their programmed recruits (many of whom “donate” much of the wages paid to them in Moonie owned businesses, back to the cult anyway), to technically stay within the letter of the law, by having these contributions count as if being made by individuals. Your contentions are, as it seems, always short on credibility.

  5. JimJJr says:

    It is clear, the Republican Party has only one agenda, and that is try to do whatever it takes to make President obama look bad. When Congress fights the whole world fights. Congress needs to work for people and stop playing politics and only thinking of the next election. The Republican is more trouble than it thinks, as they have lost the majority vote from the African Americans, the gay vote, and what will end their party is when they lose the Hispanic Vote. Obama, will be easily win another term. The Tea Party has divided the Republican Party and has turn off the independent vote as well for the most part. JimJJr

  6. iknowtruthismine says:

    JimJJr – And that is why the corporate owners of the Republican Party (and a significant portion of the Democratic Party) have desided that the best course of action is to completely stir the pot with distortions and lies, no longer being able to control it, let the government collapse under the weight of their assault, and let the people still sitting on wealth ( them), pick up the pieces from the resulting rubble and begin a new order, not hindered by those pesky former (We The People, of constitutional fame) citizens and their petty concerns.

  7. edgar says:

    “the best course of action is to completely stir the pot with distortions and lies…” Projection, by the left, of the left’s strategy (“distortions and lies”), on the left’s enemy. Very amusing schtick, ik!

  8. Albert J says:

    How is it possible, JimJJr, for anyone to make the Obama Administration look worse than it is doing all by it’s arrogant, ineffective, incompetent self?

  9. iknowtruthismine says:

    AlbertJ has given up all pretense of viewing the unfolding mess in the Gulf in its true dimensions and jumped on the partisan Limbaugh meat wagon. Like I have stated elsewhere, there is for the Right , not oil in the water, but blood, blood that is there because they put it there by letting the oil industry be in charge of the rules and regulations they were required to follow. The Right, in their frenzy to take the government off the back of big oil, opened the bank and said help yourself, which they did, leaving an empty bank to be handed over to the new administration, already trying to cope with the other Right-wing disasters they were handed. The Right-wing and their patsy Cheney/Bush regime made our current mess, made sure the oil industry didn’t have to have the tools to take care of a disaster they knew would have to happen sometime, and now they are playing the inability of the oil companies (which the Right insured would be unable) to fix the problem, as the fault of the current leadership. You all make me sick and if you think we are going to hand the reins of power back to you without an all out fight, you are nuts.

  10. edgar says:

    ik “has given up all pretense of viewing the unfolding mess in the Gulf in its true dimensions and jumped on the partisan” Obama “meat wagon.”

  11. mark says:


    Comment by iknowtruthismine — June 2nd, 2010 @ 3:40 pm”

    Who is this “we” you write of? Considering that the current “we”, those in power have made all the current messes 10 times as bad as they were, your reins of power are being speedily handed back without the involvement of those pesky patsies. And if you call what you are doing, which is trolling mutiple liberal blogs in multiple liberal newpapers and web-sites, under multiple names “an all out fight” I laugh at your fighting ability and your superior intellect.

  12. edgar says:

    “We are going to force your hand, either in the ballot box, or by pushing the situation to the point where you drop all pretense of operating within the corrupted system, by overtly hunting us down to shut us up. We will not surrender the country to the corporate oligarchy willingly, you will have to use force eventually.” ik


  13. Who Watches the Watchers says:

    “without an all out fight”???

    That seems to me that you would advocate violence if democratic elections did not produce the result you wanted.

  14. Albert J says:

    You need to remember, when people like INTIM speak of an “all out fight”, he’s referring to forming a committee to draft a really strong statement of opposition, or looking for a lawyer.

  15. iknowtruthismine says:

    Posts #40 – #44, If that is the best you can offer in rebuttal, you will have to forgive my not wanting to waste my time responding.

  16. mark says:

    atta boys to #40 and #44. you got #45 to, once again, not respond by responding. I think longinthetoothismine needs a better cross reference system for his responseless responses, his commentless commentary, his talking pointless talking points and his “everywhere I look I see myself” brand of truth.

  17. iknowtruthismine says:

    mark, if you cannot refute the truth of my remarks, then a personal attempt to denigrate my character is to be expected, especially when, like the above referenced posters, you have nothing else.