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RE: China is smart
By Schrag4 on 7/21/2010 1:52:59 PM , Rating: 4
Politics is poison, pure poison, & it's part of the reason many of the issues we face as a country as Americans, will never be solved, ...

Actually, the reason we'll never solve our issues is precisely because people think the government can actually solve any problems. Most issues you're probably speaking about wouldn't exist (or would correct themselves) if the government had simply stayed out of it in the first place. But, no, it's their job to make us think we need them so we'll put up with increased spending. Or if you're really insane you'll actually want the bigger spenders voted in.

quote: get what you can get is my motto cause no one else will be looking out for you when you need help, & especially the rich guys, as all they are going to tell you is you are lazy, ...

Unemployment benefits have their place, but expanding them (like they just did, out to something like 2.5 years instead of the 13 weeks or whatever) just removes any motivation to get a job. Notice I'm not calling anyone lazy. I'm just saying there's reverse incentive when it comes to getting a job (or succeeding in general).

...cut em off, but please continue our tax breaks, please.

I don't consider unemployment benefits or welfare to be the same as tax breaks. I say lower EVERYONE's taxes, rich AND poor. Oh, I forgot, the poor don't pay taxes...

RE: China is smart
By Hiawa23 on 7/21/10, Rating: 0
RE: China is smart
By Schrag4 on 7/21/2010 3:28:53 PM , Rating: 3
As far lowering taxes, I seriously doubt that is possible given the financial crisis going on.

I agree with you that things are worse now than they've been in years, with people unable to find jobs where they might have been able to 3+ years ago. BUT, raising taxes does the exact opposite of creating jobs. It destroys jobs. Look, unless you work for yourself, if you have a job, ultimately you're working for someone richer than yourself. Do you think raising taxes for rich guys will allow them to continue employing as many people? Not unless they cut salaries.

If you can find $ to fund wars, or help foreign countries then you can find $ to help Americans struggling, many at no fault of their own.

Totally agree. And that's why many of us think the govt shouldn't be funding ANY of this stuff. It's not just the domestic spending that we're necessarily opposed to. Stop spending on all that other stuff and you can lower taxes and "evil rich people" will be able to hire more employees. Conversely, put your figurative boot on the throats of said rich guys and it'll be his employees (like you and me) that suffer, not the rich guy.

BUT, again, politicians have done a darned good job of making it look like those rich guys, who have worked hard to provide jobs for you and I, are somehow the bad guy because they have more than us. I, for one, and eternally grateful that someone lucky, smart, and most important, HARD WORKING has built a company that I can have an opportunity to work for. Nobody should take that for granted, but pretty much everyone does, unfortunately.

RE: China is smart
By Spuke on 7/21/2010 3:41:21 PM , Rating: 1
I find it amusing that working people don't seem to realize that they work for a wealthy person (or more likely wealthy people...publicly traded companies). That job you have didn't just materialize out of thin air. Someone or some group of people created that job and since those people cannot do (nor want to in most cases) everything themselves, they hire specialists (you and I) to do it for them. How is this so hard to understand?

And then some of you actually want to raise their taxes exponentially (like 28% is not enough already) causing these people to lay YOU off to maintain their profit margin (cause they have try to by law if they're publicly traded). Then you bitch about not being able to find a job. LOL!


RE: China is smart


RE: China is smart
What the government should be doing is lowering its spending.
It should lower its involvement in the market place.
It should cut taxes.

We can live without the government.
The government can't live without us.

RE: China is smart
We can live without the government.

See a lot of people moving to Bosnia, do you?

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RE: China is smart
By Spuke on 7/21/2010 3:48:39 PM , Rating: 2
There are alot working poor in this country that do pay taxes.
If all of the taxes you "paid" during the year are refunded back to you at the end of the year, you are NOT paying taxes. In the US (can't speak for other countries), the more money you make, the more you are taxed. And the wealthiest people pay the most taxes, period. This is not debatable, this is fact. The US government has statistics on all of this stuff. Look it up.

RE: China is smart
By AlexWade on 7/21/2010 8:04:09 PM , Rating: 2

Have you be reading the story in the Washington Post called Top Secret America? It is a real eye-opener into how much money our US government spends on terrorism and intelligence. It also shows how grossly inefficient the intelligence system is. Yesterday's story was about how many private contractors the US government uses in intelligence, and these companies are making mad cash. They are stories of the good and bad of our tax dollars.

RE: China is smart
By Hiawa23 on 7/21/2010 3:17:30 PM , Rating: 1

If we looked to things correcting themselves, slavery would probably still be here, or we would still be sitting at the back of the bus in 2010. I think we all agree, the government needs to get the spending under control, they have needed this before we knew of Obama. In order to do this they are definitely going to have to cut entitlements, & draw down the 2 wars going on, as we can't afford them & we can't fix those countries. Honestly, I don't think we can afford to police the world which seems to be some of our mindset. Not sure how they would do it.

