Re: noobie needs advice

From: just a noob (
Date: 05/17/02

From: just a noob <>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 21:44:44 GMT

On Fri, 17 May 2002 21:11:14 GMT, (Larry W4CSC)

>You got it right. You plug the WAN port of the router into the cable
>modem. Then plug each NIC of each computer into one of the LAN ports
>on the router. Detailed instructions come with them.
>Set the computers for automatic IP, disable DNS, WINS to DHCP, same as
>you do for a dynamic cable setup. You're computer's probably already
>setup for dynamic IP on the box.
>Unplug the cable modem, temporarily.
>Then, after plugging it all in, turn on the router first and wait for
>the lights to stop blinking. Then, turn on the main computer you had
>plugged into the cable modem. It will be configured on Netgear as
> automatically.
>Open Internet Explorer and enter
>The webpage in the router is for the basic setup and maintenance. It
>will ask for a username and password. The defaults are listed in the
>instruction manual. Once you get the webpage opened up, the Netgear
>Wizard will run. Open up the Network of the main computer to get its
>groupname, domain name (usually your isp) and note the IP it assigned
>to the computer ( Type in the computer name, domain name
>and on the last page of the Wizard you'll see a prompt about SPOOFING
>where you enter the IP of the computer to get the NIC's MAC address
>from ( Turn the spoofing on and the cable company can't
>tell you're running a router...(c;....unless they break into your

What is spoofing? RR only gives me one public IP, does this give me
more public IP's?
BTW what is wrong with running a router that RR would not like?

>Click the button to complete the Wizard's easy.
>Plug the modem back in and wait for it to logon to the CMTS and the
>router will call DHCP for a lease, masquerading as the computer you
>started out with.....
>To run other computers on other ports, simply set them up for
>automatic IP from the DHCP built into the router and when you plug
>them in the router will configure them for you....fully automatic. A
>friend wanted some files on his notebook the other night. I pointed
>him to the router port and we plugged his notebook in. By the time it
>booted, he had full high speed internet service and was ready to
>Netgear Rocks! I got 3 computers running 24/7 on it. Because NONE of
>your computers is actually ON the internet, none of the script kiddies
>little scanners can get to your box UNLESS you have a trojan listening
>for a call. You don't need a firewall. It will never alarm. You
>need a virus scanner with current definitions like Norton Anti-Virus
>and you're ready to run without sucking up all your CPU clocks with
>software firewall overhead. The only way to get to the computers on
>the LAN is to FORCE open a port with the PORTS list on the router
>webpage or have a trojan running to force open a port. All other
>scans never make it past the router and go nowhere....(c;
>"Nothing's funnier than an Outlook Express user with a firewall."
>On Fri, 17 May 2002 04:13:10 GMT, just a noob <> wrote:
>>Sorry this got a bit complicated for me.
>>I have one IP available from my ISP I know public IPs is different
>>than private IPs.
>>So I would plug in my 3 com sharkfin to this router then the computers
>>into it?
>>I know I can not plug my modem into my hub because it has only 3
>>copper pins on the ethernet clip and the ethernet clips I use on the
>>home network have 8.
>>I know a hub is different from a router but I don't know why.
>>I might sound as confusing to you as you did to me.
>>On Fri, 17 May 2002 03:49:20 GMT, (Larry W4CSC)
>>>Why not just buy a $69 cable router/switch like the Netgear RP114 I'm
>>>using here. None of your computers are sucked up with running server
>>>softwares. The NAT of the router protects your machines from outside
>>>calls and DoS attacks because none of your computers is hooked to the
>>>internet....unless you expose a specific port or range of ports for
>>>some reason. Not having to run firewall software frees the computers
>>>up for actual use, they all run faster without the loads. Each
>>>computer will have its own LAN address. Mine is at this
>>>moment. The router has its own DHCP server and spoofs the MAC address
>>>of any of the computers so cable can't even tell you have a router.
>>>Computer to computer access is fast and very reliable from IP to IP
>>>right through your router, if you desire. Before you get your fingers
>>>off the Ethernet plug, the Netgear's DHCP has leased an IP to your
>>>notebook the instant you plug it in (auto IP) and it's ready to go on
>>>the net without the firewall FUDware.....just like the big boys.
>>>It's nice having more of your CPU time back. Run anti-virus software
>>>to keep the bad guys from running their wormservers on all your
>>>machines. Uninstall Outlook Express and its address book, Windows
>>>scripting host, javascript and ActiveX and you're quite safe across
>>>the net......
>>>You'll soon forget those popup windows trying to scare you into buying
>>>more FUDwares......
>>>"Nothing is funnier than an Outlook Express user with a firewall."
>>>On Fri, 17 May 2002 02:16:06 GMT, just a noob <> wrote:
>>>>I am running ICS on my home network and use a cable modem so I would
>>>>like protection from the outside only. If a purchase is needed I would
>>>>rather just buy one copy for the server machine and relay on freeware
>>>>for the others.
>>>>Recommendations for a setup?