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that would let taxes rise on the wealthiest households while protecting the vast majority of americans from tax hikes set to hit in january. welcome to the saturday edition of "and the washington journal." for the first 45 minutes of the program we are going to be talking about senate negotiating a fiscal clifts deal, what has been going on on that half of the capital. see what they are talking about and how things are going. we want to get your input and your part of the conversation. you can reach out to us on twitter. facebook, facebook.com/cspan. and you can send us an e-mail. this is more from the article, the lead story in "the washington post." they ride, the development marked a breakthrough after weeks of paralysis. joining us by phone is one of the authors of that article, and, laurie, welcome to the program. tell us, what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new in the negotiations among the senators and between the senators and the white house? caller: there does not appear to be anything new. the policies they are talking about are the senate has been on the table
with president obama and signals conservative republicans are inwilling to stomach any rise in tax rates even on those making more than $1 million which was mr. boehner's plan. so walk us through what happened on friday. how did we get there? and it seems like the speaker of the house didn't see this coming, and a lot of folks in washington want to know why not? guest: we begin the week with the speaker of the house saying negotiations between he and president obama had stalled. they were stuck on their -- i guess i would say maybe not their final offers but current offers. boehner said he would raise taxes on those making a million a year or more and get all told $1 trillion in tax increases which he wanted to be matched with $1 trillion in spending cuts and the rate increases on those making $1 million or more and remove loopholes and deductions to get the rest in revenue and then you had your spending cuts. the president, sort of depends on how you do your math and counting, but the president -- by scoreible math the president would have been at $1.3 trillion in tax increases and $900 bil
that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future progress. such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities, as long as these leaders allow to come to a vote. if they still want to vote no, that is their prerogative. but they should let everybody else vote as well. that is the way this is supposed to work. we cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing. the folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. the housing market is healing, but that could stall if folks are seeing smaller paychecks. unemployment rate is lowest it has been in 2008, but already families and businesses are starting to hold back because of the disfunction they see in washington. you meet your deadlines. you meet your responsibilities every single day. the folks you sent here to serve should do the same thing. we cannot let washington politics get in the way of america's progress. we've got to do what it takes to protect the middle class, prot
and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now what would be in that mini deal? we're talking about tax increases for people at near the top of the income scale. the question is the threshold, 400 or $500,000 are the likely places that that could end up. it would likely turn off the automatic sequester by using some of the revenue from the tax increases to account as budget cuts and turn off they is quester and it would also extend unemployment benefits and do the so-called doc fix to prevent reimbursements from declining and also have a milk fix, michelle that would prevent the doubling of milk prices which would occur without an extension of subsidies. >> why aren't people more optimistic? i haven't heard about enough spending cuts that would bring republican spending cuts. why are republicans more optimistic now? >> they're concerned spending cuts would not be a part of this deal. i talked to an aide who s
that has the pedal to the metal. what you and i have talked about before repeatedly, $4 in taxes for every dollar in phantom spending cuts. that's fiscal irritation, but the health of corporate america will be what ultimately prevails. >> sounds like david has been reading your book, rick santelli. >> it does. >> big fan of rick. >> this is such a perverse world we live in, okay. let's look as what's happening. down 158 in stocks and that pushed the ten-year yield under 170, okay. >> really. let me get this straight. they can't get a deal on controlling out-of-control debt, so rates go down. i used to trade during graham/rudman and i remember when they couldn't get deficit conversations right, treasuries went down and stocks went down. oh, would i love to get back to that type of reality. >> yeah. but you had a different guy at the federal reserve at the time. >> yeah, a different guy, you know, in hindsight he was maybe the monetizer in charge -- in chief, and we get a little historical perspective on that, but as many things that i disagree with alan greenspan on, i thought he was at lea
: the president is getting higher taxes if we go over the cliff and he can go back and change the tax rate for those making $250,000 or less. the speaker saying it has to be $1 million or above. the president much more in the driver's seat. guest: yes and no. let's say we go over the cliff and that's the markets are in a panic and people have paychecks that have less money in them. people will not necessarily blame john boehner. they will blame the president. he has political capital that could evaporate. i'm not sure if he gets what he wants -- that is not how american politics necessarily works. host: what led to this meeting? harry reid was sounding pessimistic early in the day. then john boehner calling the house back sunday evening with a vote scheduled after 6:00 p.m., setting up a late sunday session or a lot of fireworks on monday. guest: the redskins-cowboys game is on sunday night. each side staked out a public position it had to stake out. use it at the end there's a sentence saying, but we will talk or negotiate. nothing unusual here to me. i think right now they are doing what
ticks. house speaker john boehner announced his plan b to let bush-era tax cuts expire for earners making more than $1 million a year and he wants to set automatic spending cuts with unspecified cuts elsewhere. the speaker pulled his so-called plan b for lack of support from his own party because many republicans still beholden to grover nor quest and the ridiculous pledge want no compromise at all. the debate between the two sides centers around a balanced approach the budget. republicans say president obama wants too much revenue. that's taxes in normal speak and not enough cuts. >> at some point we're going to have to address the spending problem that we have. we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need economic growth. many believe the fundamental reform of our tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on the tax rolls. how we get there, god only knows. >> president obama doesn't see it that way. >> at some point there's got to be i think a recognition on the part of my republican friends, that you know, take the
aboutrd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the reap warnings and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and th
that immediately. senate democrats saying we passed a bill that raises tax rates on incomes over $250,000, we ran on this and this is what we are offering. house republicans were saying, no, we want to negotiate something, figure it out and send it to us. someone is going to have to move. who? the president met with senate majority leader harry reid before going to hawaii and his offer was to extend the tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, extend unemployment insurance benefits, and the lady across the board automatic cuts that are supposed to start january 1. that seems to be a non starter with republicans. it's hard to see where we go from here. host: have they been talking over the christmas break at all? also, one has been the role of senator mitch mcconnell? guest: the line that comes from the speakers office all the time is the line of communication remain open. i don't know how much talking they did as the president was in hawaii spending time with his family and the speaker was back home in ohio, i believe. i don't know that for sure. everyone was doing their family time and not really wo
package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> and just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face to face-closed-door meeting at the white housed to between all the key players. the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary, and all four congressional leaders. huddled together with just four days to go before we all go over the fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. now on a story where every second and every maneuver counts let's get right to chief white house correspondent increase ka yellin. the president says he's modestly optimistic but he also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no. they don't. because the white house is hopeful, first of all, that the agreement that the senators a
with newark mayor cory booker, anti-tax activist and nra board member grover norquist, peggy noonan of "the wall street journal" and katrina vanden heuvel from "the nation." >>> hello, again. the president and congress are off for christmas fleeing a capitol filled with political rancor and political dysfunction. fiscal cliff talks have completely collapsed. questions about the president's new national security team has forced him to announce the appointments piecemeal and the nra's first response to the tragedy in newtown provoked a fierce debate. we'll cover that starting with the nra's choice to lead a national effort to protect schools, former congressman, asa hutchinson. good morning, mr. hutchinson. thanks for joining us this morning. >> hi. >> you emphasized at the press conference friday you will be independent. but as you begin your effort, this national school shield, initiative, i wonder if you agree with the analysis of the problem laid out by wayne lapierre who says americans have to face this truth. take a look. >> politicians pass laws for gun-free school zones, and in doing
, the scaled-down plan which would keep taxes low for 98% of americans, raising them for folks over 250, extending unemployment benefits. would you vote for that as an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff? >> i would have voted just to extend the tax cuts for 99.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell which does raise the question, whatever procedural and constitutional issues, which are profound. are you concerned as a republican, someone who is close to
that tax rates shouldn't go up or the other 98% of americans so there is absolutely no reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. >> senator isakson, he said every republican, every democrat in washington said everyone earning under $250,000 shouldn't get a tax hike. puts that on the floor and some relief from this that's going to hit january 1st. any chance you could support that. >> i feel the house should have passed speaker boehner's bill and the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. if we get down to the end and the only choice is to save taxes going up on the middle class, i would support that but i wish we would have a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending, entitlements and taxes altogether. >> is that still realistic with time running short? >> it's not real list tick but it was realistic december 1st. it's time for us to get down to work and do the people's business. >>
and tax increases that goy into effect tuesday morning are totally manmade, totally avoidable, and all sides know it. it's a kind of legislative dooms day machine written by the men and women who work here and signed by president obama. the idea being to make it so painful not to cut a deal on taxes and spending that they would be forced to cut a deal on taxes and spending. except keeping them honest, they haven't done it. even though they knew the stakes, they knew the deadline, and both sides promised that this time things would be different. >> we need to return to fiscal responsibility. >> how is it that we're going to be able to do that? getting our fiscal house in order. >> the american people have spoken loudly. they want us to get our fiscal house in order. >> fiscal handcuffs on this congress that are sorely needed. >> washington is beginning to get its fiscal house in order. >> so they approve legislation that gave everyone nearly a year and a half to reach a long-term agreement on spending and taxes or face truly punishing consequences if they didn't. you'll remember at the
house and senate leaders from both parties to try and hammer out a deal avoiding the tax hikes and crippling spending cuts. remember analysts say falling off the fiscal cliff could drive the u.s. into another recession. more than a month has passed since the last time they got together. the obama administration called that mid another meeting constructive but there has been little to no progress. today lawmakers on both sides of the aisle tried to strike an optimistic tone. >> millions of americans are out there struggling and certainly they deserve a congress that will avoid going over the fiscal cliff, which is why the president has been working hard to bring leaders together. >> we can't continue to kick the can down the road with half measures. i think the market will respond in a permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> the chairman of the senate finance committee says it comes down to this meeting adding i wish them luck. it would be a great new year's present for the country. ed henry, how pivot the is the meeting? >> we're on the verge of the biggest tax increase
- higher taxes? that's one of many things that will be chaning. gail marks jarvis is a personal finance columnist. she's also the author of "saving for retirement without living like a pauper or winning the lottery." and you expect kind of across-the-board tax increases at some point for everyone. > > right. it might not happen early in the year, we will have to see. i expect congress and the president are still going to be fighting about what our taxes are going to be early in the year. but eventually, maybe late traders head back to a post- holiday trading session. what's in store for the shortened week. in today's cover story, minimum wage is on the rise. the effect on the labor market. plus, scammers have been naughty this holiday season. why checking your credit card statement is a nice idea. the financial pitfalls that could put a snag in your savings in 2013. and, bad business blunders. how corporations this year are attempting to recover reputations. first business starts now. you're watching first business: financial news, analysis, and today's investment ideas. good morning. i
because a half trillion dollars plus tax hit is about to kick in as a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is no where are in sight and time is running out. we hit the streets to show people this. this graphic shows how big a tax hit you could expect depending on your income no matter where in the country you live. for folks who could soon be forced to pay higher taxes, reality setting in. >> january 1st, that's what your taxes would go up. >> wow. >> wow. >> wow is not wow. >> well, it's going to be somewhere between 8,000 to $12,000, which i don't have. so i'm not looking forward to that. >> we're living paycheck by paycheck. i have five kids and that's going to put us way down in the hole. >> i'm a single income, you've got to be kidding. >> that's a lot of money. >> we need to keep our money in our pockets to help our country first. >> that sucks. i have a lot more better things to do with that money than give it someplace else. >> taxpayers are clearly worried. it deny next guest reaction from florida republican congressman, good friend, allen west. start with the -- some news we hear
for compromise. he has an urgent plea to extend the tax cuts in the next ten days. he's basically calling for a stopgap bill that will avoid tax hikes on 98% of americans. he's willing to waiten o the rest. >>> meanwhile, stocks had a fiscal cliff selloff. but even a deal in january for the cliff is going to be all right if you ask me. and today's economic numbers pretty darn good. and the gun control debate heats up again today after a controversial nra news conference in washington. the "kudlow report" begins right now. >>> all right. let's first look at the market reaction to this fiscal cliff stuff. jackie joins us with the details. good evening, jackie. >> good evening to you, larry. while markets finished lower on the day, they were higher on the week. the dow up about .5%, the nasdaq higher by 1.7%, and the s&p 500 up by roughly 1.2% over the last five days. meantime in terms of sector performance, the financials, they had a rough day. the plan "b" proposal for the fiscal cliff. up more than 3% for the week. also technology and materials they finished lower on the day, as well, but
. at a news conference with the speaker in a call to extend the tax rates. some have urged congressman tom price of georgia to challenge john deere for the job. much more on what is next for the fiscal cliff. one week before we reach that point. the deadline is december 31, january 1. the president is in hawaii. the house and senate are also in set -- in session this week. elliot engel, weighing in on a number of topics, including rumors that former republican senator chuck a bill could be nominated as defense secretary. you heard from the president on friday as he nominated senator john kerry as secretary of state and the new speculation about chuckle over at the pentagon. here are the comments of congressman dingell, the incoming democratic member of the house foreign affairs committee. but there is a huge opposition to the potential nomination of chuckled to become the next secretary of defense, even the president obama has not made his decision. the former senator has come under fire for statements he has made, including one where he referred to the pro-israel lobby as the "jewish lobb
sides are pushing for today. >> i think we can all agree that tax rates are the biggest sticking point. so what specific issues are your sources saying that they might actually address in this meeting today besides tax rates? could they talk about unemployment benefits, spending cuts, what's expected to come up today? >> this is the -- the specific details of the proposal could include in addition to tax rates, as you point out, an extension of unemployment benefits. the amt fix, the alternative minimum tax would be patched for another year. and medicare doctor payments, preventing pay cut s s to medic providers. and the question that republicans are asking is would the president and democrats be willing to include some way to avert an estate tax hike and would democrats be willing to find a way to pay r for extending unemployment benefits. those are unknowns and we expect that will be something they will bring up at that meeting. again, not too much optimism that even if those issues get resolved, all of this gets through the house and senate before new year's but we can always hope.
of the impact it will have on almost every american. taxes up, programs cut probably sending us back into a recession. >> so the ball now is clearly with the senate. senator reid and senator mcconnell have the ability to put this together again and pass something. it won't be a big, grand bargain to take care of the total debt, but they can do some things that will avoid the worst consequences going over the fiscal cliff. i can tell you that i've talked to a lot of republican colleagues in the senate who are favorably inclined toward the idea, let's protect the middle class from the tax cuts, raise taxes on people over $250,000 and stop those terrible cuts in defense, homeland security, education, et cetera. >> not much time left. senator, after 24 years in the u.s. senate you are retiring, but you still have work to do. so i'm not going to say good-bye to you now, because i imagine we might speak to you again. >> we might. you see all of this, i told my colleagues they're just doing it to make sure those of us retiring this year work every last day of the term. we're going to spend
families the payroll tax cut that started two years ago is worth around 1000 as year. those families tend to spend that cash because they need it now. republicans say this is one tax cut they hate and the last time it was going to expire, the white house launched a whole campaign about $40 a paycheck. they asked families to send in their stories about what $40 meant to them. well, you know something? $40 a still a lot of cash for the families hit hardest by the great recession. for the wealthy people sitting around the negotiating table in d.c., $40 is just another steak dinner for one. but for many people who voted them into office, it's the cost of groceries for a week of family dinners. let's not forget, they are the ones who still need an economic stimulus, not the families earning more than $250,000 a year. joining me today on a newsy day, "the huffington post" sam stein and the national reviews robert costa. sam, i want to start with you. you have been reporting this out all day, and we know that congressional leaders are with the president this afternoon. they haven't made comments
for the economy. and the transaction tax is being taken very seriously in europe and probably will happen there, even though the u.k. is kicking and screaming because they specialize in being the home of trading, whether trading in stocks or derivatives or anything else. they simply do not want that to be taxed. there are people in congress. i think wall street is now the number-one contributor to political campaigns. at least, it is in the running for number-one. i have been to washington many times and i'm involved with several groups that are trying to reform the business sector so that it can work, so that it can survive. it is very difficult because of the sheer amount of money that the finance sector in particular is pouring into lobbying and campaign contributions. it is very difficult. >> let's give a round of applause for lin. -- lynn. [applause] there is an opportunity for you to purchase and have the but signed. if you have court-further questions, she will be here signing books. thank you all and have a safe trip home. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [caption
, there are well down the light. they won the taxes now. by the time the cuts come in, this ought to be turned around and it was said, we do not need the cuts now that if it has turned around. host: lots of comments coming in of this but so far. one caller rights -- sarasota, florida on the line now. good morning, jill. caller: did morning. i have only one very short thing to say. listen, everyone out there. no matter what party believe in, they're used to be a wonderful country in africa called rhodesia. we are talking about african problems, but it was a bread basket country. produce things. now it is called zimbabwe. inflation is over 1000%. that is all i am going to say to the people watching and listening to this program because we are heading in the same direction. thank you and have a wonderful new year. host: a tear from bob now in the democrat light. caller: thank you for letting me have a chance to speak. i am more optimistic -- i a more pessimistic than optimistic. i just do not think they will ever get together like they should. my one comment is when they start speaking about the
plans that democrats used to support but now they won't. i don't want taxes to go up. republicans don't want taxes to go up. but we only run the house, democrats continue to run washington. >> gregg: national correspondent steve centanni joins us live from washington. >> reporter: d.c. may be some shutting down for christmas but the clock hasn't stopped and fiscal cliff is closer than ever. no deal was reached this week to keep taxes from going up. joan boehner pulled plug on the plan "b" and he says it is now up to the president and g.o.p. is continuing to hammer away at president obama. >> this is the year size of our debt surpassed the our economy. a grim milestone if we don't come to grips to w it. the president's plan to raise tax rates ko could still be as far as eye could see. >> reporter: president obama will return after christmas and work on fiscal issues. he believes a comprehensive deal could be reached but he seems to be acknowledging for scaled back plan for cutting taxes on the middle-class. >> even though democrats and republicans are arguing about whether those rates
thought a $250,000 and above extension of the tax -- bush tax cuts could, in fact, pass and he was extremely, extremely angry in ways that you really hear on the senate floor with the speaker of the house. take a listen. >> it's beings operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass. >> so harry reid there calling house speaker john boehner a dictator for not bringing a bill to the floor that would extend the bush tax cuts for all those who make less than $250,000 a year. now that bill if it was brought to the house floor would have to pass with democratic votes. speaker boehner has said that he wants to pass something ultimately that can be con by t done by the majority of the majority. >> i don't understand how you can call him a dictator when he can't get his own bill passed. that doesn't make any sense to me. if he was a dictator, he could have done it. >> what we're watching here is a lot of finger pointing. the house side wants the senate to do s
don't know if the president plans to return at the to hawaii if the tax hikes are avoided well in advance of the of the new year. he's there to talk to himself. john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two. something else that remains to be seen is everybody will return to the table with a cooler head which the president shawas hopi for before he went on his family vacation. hoe over do you. >> the fiscal cliff we have been telling you so much about could be devastating for thousands of american businesses and their workers. their new concerns this morning about profits for those companies. lauren simonetti from the fox business network j
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. ♪ >> chris: with nine days to go is it possible to make a deal to head off big tax increases, and spending cuts? we'll ask two senate leaders, republican john barrasso, and, democrat, kent conrad. then, as the nation mourns the victims of the newtown school shooting, we turn to a man of faith. for some answers. in these trying times he sees the need for a spiritual awakening. we'll discuss the sandy hook massacre and the meaning of christmas. with pastor rick warren. >>> plus, a change at the state department. as the benghazi report is finally released. we'll ask our sunday panel about the nomination of john kerry to replace hillary clinton. and, where the investigation of a terror attack that killed four americans goes now. and, our power player of the week, continues in holiday tradition, to show respect for veterans. all, right now, on fox news sunday. ♪ >> chris: and hello, again from fox news in washington. at christmas, people who arnauty get coal in their stock and if the white house and congress don't make a deal in the next nine days to avoid the fiscal cliff we ring in the new
it would include. focusing on three key area. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less. extending unemployment benefits and it would delay dramatic spending cuts until later next year. the top senate republican recognizes this is a critical time. >> we are engaged in discussions the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to o his conference and so we will be working hard to try to see he if we can get there in the next 24 hours. >> among the questions to be answered, what level do you set extending the bush tax cuts? $250,000 income? $500,000 or $750,000. that will all get hammered out this sundby, by this sunday when house lawmakers are set to return. failure or a bad deal could have major economic impact if the markets react poorly. greta? >> greta: mike, thank you. and check your watches because we are only about 73 hours and 55 minutes away from the big event. that is how much time we have before the president,
brings one that is a real doozy, billions in tax increases and across-the-board spending cuts take effect. it forces members of congress and president obama to spend the last few days of 2012 on the job. we want to bring in cnn chief white house correspondent, jessica yelen, we all know they would rather celebrate new year's eve elsewhere. how did they get here? >> reporter: it is such a good question, you know, candy, this grid lock in washington creates the eye-rolling. but the fundamental question goes to the essential differences between the two parties about the role of government, should it be bigger or smaller? about whether we want lower taxes or more of a social safety net. so while we have seen the principles, the president, speaker boehner, and now senator mcconnell and reid trying to get involved in stages in the last few weeks, it has always broken down because they fundamentally disagree about the big ideas over the core of this debate. they're fighting between the two parties. and this could get resolved in a matter of days or weeks. but the big difference, the issues could
discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> it comes after speaker boehner left the white house. he didn't say anything to reporters and neither did anyone else who was seen leaving the meeting. here's what we do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you,
was reconciliation. august 1st was our tax extenders. the third was on our sequester. and then you finished in september with a path for tax reform. they are all on harry reid's desk. he can pick up whatever he wants. now for the president to think that just taking a break from the discussions will solve the issue, i don't understand what he thinks is going to come from that. we have had our bills over there. we even passed a budget. and we are going on four years with the senate not even passing a budget. inaction has been the choice of the senate leadership. choices have consequences. and their consequences that the american people are facing this fiscal cliff it is going to happen on january 1st and 2nd, and it is happening because they have not done their job. the president should be speaking to harry reid in the senate saying come on now, get busy on this. take up one of those budgets. take up the tax extenders. this is what i am looking for, this is what we are going to work with you on. you know what, that's not what he did. >> in the negotiations leading up to the super committee ba
to the negotiating table. we are now just a few days away from the end of the year and push to solve tax and spending issues is critical. the edge of the so-called fiscal cliff is really in view now. the home county of house speaker john boehner butler county, ohio, currently under a blizzard warning. house republican leaders holding a conference call earlier today on the fiscal cliff, but so far they have not yet called on lawmakers to return to capitol hill. but they have said they will give a 48 hour warning if they plan to do that the white house saying the president is cutting his holiday vacation in hawaii short to return to d.c. to work on a deal to try to stop those automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts from kicking in on january 1st. and if they don't reach a deal before then, many economists say we will dip back into a recession. i had henly house republican leaders didn't have a lot of new information for their lawmakers. they would have 48 hour notice if they are needed to pray back to washington from various districts around the country. that tells us they are being noncommittal at
the president. this is personal. this has nothing to do with raising taxes. this is a personal attack and i think it's a shame. we look like a third world country. we don't look like the united states. host: let's get a republican voice. our next caller is calling from west bloomfield, michigan, on the republican line. good morning. caller: i would like to get your thoughts on a balanced approach and have unbiased taxation by using a flat tax. that way you can calculate the amount of taxes we need for the deficit over 10 years. another point is to control the spending on entitlements by not giving millionaires social security benefits, thereby satisfying president obama's approach. instead of doing it through taxation, he can do it through the entitlements. guest: those are both ideas that have been raised, especially the social security and medicare benefits for the wealthy and potentially might not need them to live off of. one tricky part of that is wealthier americans have been paying these taxes for decades into social security and medicare if and a lot of folks have a problem with the
the fiscal cliff. what will lawmaker do to save you from more taxes and fewer benefits? >>> the littlest pawns in a political fight. we'll talk to one woman whose hopes for adopting a russian son may have just been shattered. >>> and they're back. kathy griffin and anderson cooper ringing in new year's eve. but why was kathy's make itted on "a.c.'s" -- naked on "a.c.'s" couch? we'll explain. >>> good morning, it's 10:00 on the east coast, 7:00 on the west coast. i'm alison kosik. randi kaye is off today. we're just three days away from possibly crossing over the fiscal cliff. for the first time in weeks, there's some hope coming from washington. senate leaders are negotiating a deal they hope can go to a vote, go to a vote soon. cnn radio capitol hill correspondent lisa desjardins is in washington. you were on thrill yesterday for the political action between president obama, between congressional leaders. they sound more optimistic, at least president obama does. do you think we're any closer to a deal at this point? >> i think there's no doubt that we are closer to a deal, but how much
brought before the house, keeping the middle-class tax cuts, but not those for the upper income, and making sure the alternative minimum tax did not go into effect -- i think it would pass with a coalition. and i think the same could be true of unemployment insurance. 2 million people will lose their federal benefits tomorrow, if we don't have. 2 million people. >> when we snowe the fiscal cliff was imposed as a stopgap on you and all of your colleagues on the hill, are you disappointed that you've had to see it come down to the wire like this? this is basically a self-designed fiscal nightmare that you and all of your colleagues have created. are you disappointed that we haven't been ability to get it together more? >> absolutely. it shouldn't happen this way, but the republican conference showed last week how divided they are. >> there are republicans who don't want to vote for any tax increase. that's timied actions here. in the senate, i heard senator mcconnell that the november election -- that isn't true. the president was out there clearly saying there should be a continu
to do anything related to taxes. we both know each side wants a piece of the other to do those exact things and both sides still refuse. is there anything that means those two factors have changed. >> we saw it on the stock market today and we saw the wild swings as news developments happened throughout the course of the day. it impacted the market throughout date and if that continues that kind of pressure from the outside could really put some force on these members of congress to come together for a deal. the closer we get the more pressure from the outside they're going feel and i think it makes it easier, not harder to get a deal in the last 48 to 24 hour space lot of folks have said that's the sweet spot for a deal anyway and there's another group that says we're going over this cliff, if even just temporarily, michelle. >> thank you, eamon. >> just days from heading back to washington, congressman aaron shaw, republican from illinois. thanks for joining us, representative. you got the call and have to go back to washington sunday, 6:30, what, if anything, are you going to vote
is -- but shouldn't crease -- shouldn't greece all its own tax collection? >> let me start with the last question before i start giving out financial advisor. [laughter] greece certainly should focus on dealing -- not so much with tax collection, but what i call tax immunity. they have a very cozy system of tax immunity. the tragedy is when you have an economy like greece's going to a tailspin and you have a massive immunization of national income, and the central bank is effectively kaput, you can really improve your tax collection methods because there is no income tax. people just do not make money any more. even the rich do not make money. other than the money they have already accumulated through geneva or frankfurt. they are not making money. how can you improve your tax mechanism when there's no income to tax? that is the second question. the first question -- i am not worried about inflation at all. in this country, there is this fixation with quantitative easing. bernanke's attempt to stabilize the american economy. it is a policy that i have encountered ever since i came to this countr
the looming tax increases and spending cuts. old man winter wiping out the holidays for many people in the country. his work is not done yet. people worried about washington keeping their spending type. time for stocks now. nicole petallides is at the new york stock exchange. nicole: the dow is down about ten points. the s&p pulling back one quarter of 1%. a lot of the retailers loved like the biggest losers. 500 stocks are comprised and represent oriole to autos to airlines. the sector that was really lagging where the retailers. oil has been moving to the upside. there is a lot going on with that. and oil spike of two dollars. now, let's take a look at technology. we do see some of the tech stocks doing pretty well. hewlett-packard and intel have been among the real losers for the year 2012 on the dow. today, you continue to see this trend which is a little better. back to you. dagen: thank you. the senate returning to washington tomorrow. the president, as well. five days left to revert the fiscal cliff. now that plan b is that, will there be a plan c or f for failing? peter: pre
over how to avoid that inevitable cliff, tax hikes, spending cuts associated with it, some of them are taking to the sunday talk shows to make their respective cases with just nine days until every american taxpayer feels the pinch. steve centanni, steve is there still any chance some sort of a comprehensive agreement can be reached? >> reporter: it's looking less and less likely. two sides in the did the debate had their say on sunday talk shows. there is a lot of talk and not much action. john boehner called off his public for a plan b, there has been no movement toward any kind of deal and some are saying the president wasn't to avoid that fiscal cliff. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he sees a political victory. he gets additional tax revenues and gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for years. he gets to blame republicans for it. >> reporter: if nothing has done by the end of the year, taxes go up for everybody. >> gregg: will be the president be working on these issues during
the cliff. i'm. patti ann: i'm patti ann browne. they will try to avoid the across the board tax hikes for 90% of the american households and deep spending cuts. so far little to no progguess has been reported. gregg: chief white house correspondent ed henry is in the white us. ed, what do we expect out the meeting if any at all? our expectations are a little bit low. >> reporter: you're exactly right, gregg, expectations have to be low. lawmakers of both parties in conjunction with the president have missed one deadline after another. we have been saying for a couple weeks they had to get moving get this completed before christmas in order to give the house and senate time to debate and end up voting on whatever package they come up with. now that we're days away from actually going off the fiscal cliff where these automatic massive spending cuts as well as large tax increases got into effect you have to have low expectations. it appears the white house is very confident in waiting for the republicans to make the next move. they keep saying inside the white house this is up to the rep
1. >> i think we're dealing now with whether or not we can put off the -- the increase in tax rates. that's really all we can deal with now. >> the next session of the senate is now set for tomorrow. the house has nothing on its schedule for this week. members have been told they could be called back within 48 hours' notice. meantime, and this i guess is also the big news, the white house saying the president's going to be flying back from vacation in hawaii today. a lot of people making something of that. i don't know what it means ultimately. >> well, one thing it means -- >> a show of something. >> if i had to get back from hawaii at a minute's notice, you know what it would be. the president will have an easier time of it, i think. right? >> i noticed a couple of news reports saying the cost of the last-minute flight is about $250 -- >> he's the president, he's allowed. he's not going to be like in -- you know, transferring in san francisco or l.a. or something. and hoping that flight isn't -- i think he can just sort of -- >> the good news. >> he can probably work on the way ba
is expected to return to dc any time he with drew the republican plan b deal that extends tax cuts to everyone under millionaire. he was confident that the cliff could be avoided last time we heard from him. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll work on a plan to protect families and small businesses. >> and so there is time for a in person meeting. >> we are getting some twitter for rick. what is new york city looking like with a nor'easter on thursday. i want to know the answer on that. deadly storm system that pounded the midwest with storm and thousands of tornados heading northeast this morning. oh, my god. that is a tornado. oh, wow. oh, jesus, look at that tornado. >> gretchen: that funnel cocloud was spot indeed mobile, alabama and 10s of thens of people now without power. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could . praying for my safety and i knew and prayed that the truck stayed put and god would protect me. the brutal winds tossed the cars on top of each other and left the neighborhood a complete disaster. >> i never s