note DrHyde Believe it or not, the last time I used a modem I really did use an acoustic coupler! It was in a holiday cottage in deepest darkest rural Cornwall, where the only phone was an old rotary job wired into the wall, so I couldn't just unplug it and plug in my laptop. <p>update: that was in 2001 IIRC <p>PPP setup and ssh key exchange takes a loooooooooooooooooong time at 300bps. <p>Since then I've done dialup on a mobile phone (9600bps) and using a 3G data card (300+ Kbps) but seeing that those are entirely digital there's no modem involved. 566662 566662