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Here's an idea
By Holytrinity on 12/13/2007 10:48:25 PM , Rating: 0
America should just kill everyone.

RE: Here's an idea
By Misty Dingos on 12/14/2007 8:15:24 AM , Rating: 4
That is just silly. America just needs to kill all the bad people.

Determining who is bad is the hard part.
Here is a guide line I have worked up. If you compare the people that you think are bad against the list you may find they really aren’t bad at all.

Osama = Bad (kind of the gold standard for bad)
People that think having sex with a child is cool = bad just freaking bad
People that think that if you don’t believe like they do means they should kill you = bad
People that kill own children because they didn’t wear a scarf = bad
People that kill people because they didn’t like who they married = bad
People that kill people because they don’t want to be with them anymore = bad
People that cut you off on the freeway = no not bad really I mean it they aren’t bad
People that drink and drive = oh I want them to be bad but they probably aren’t
People that run into buildings with bombs strapped to their chests = bad
Illeagal aliens = not bad but if they want to stay here they need to do lots of paperwork and learn to speak the language
People that think killing a bunch of people in a shopping mall or school or church or synagogue or mosque or restaurant or well anywhere before killing themselves = bad very bad (mostly for getting the murder before the suicide part, a personal note to those considering the above act of violence, please just skip the murder part and do us all a favor and go right to the suicide part)
Idiot Liberals = unfortunately not bad just stupid
Wacky overzealous conservatives = again not bad just stupid
People that think people are the worst thing ever to happen to the planet = not bad but in need of real education
People that believe blindly in global warming = not bad just dumb
People that blindly deny global warming = not bad just dumb
Looney paranoid conspiracy nut lesbian talk show hosts = tragically not bad just really disturbed and in need of mental help
Drugged out conservative radio talk show hosts = no not bad but can be funny when stoned on the air
Canadian newscasters masquerading as American newscasters = not bad but should probably be deported
US presidents that think oral sex isn’t “actually” sex and think that dealing with terrorism means throwing a couple of billion dollars of Tomahawk missiles at empty terrorist training camps = nope not bad , just sad
US presidents that declare wars over before they even really get started = nope not bad just really foolish
People that think the new Bionic Woman was good = BAD just joking the show is bad though really bad
People that don’t agree with some or all of this list = Nope they are not bad they might even be able to think for themselves which is good

RE: Here's an idea
By Etsp on 12/14/2007 9:10:48 AM , Rating: 2
You forgot one:
People who kill those who disagree with them because they disagree with them = bad

RE: Here's an idea
By Misty Dingos on 12/14/2007 9:25:30 AM , Rating: 2
You are most correct. I did.
And I will have to add one myself.
People that kill people that try to help them = Bad

A friend of mine was stabbed in the back by his sister's boyfriend when he tried to resolve a family argument over $20.

My friend died and his sister still supports the boyfriend. Sometimes I just don't understand people.

RE: Here's an idea
By 3kliksphilip on 12/14/2007 8:19:30 AM , Rating: 2
...Closing the gap between video games and KILLING people.

Only now it'll actually look like people getting shot, not just stick people.

I don't think that video games inspire violence, but when the army becomes involved and interested in using modified versions of Operation Flashpoint to train soldiers up, I can't help but think tthat this could be used AGAINST game players.

I doubt I'd drive a boat off a mountain in real life, though.

RE: Here's an idea
By Misty Dingos on 12/14/2007 9:19:48 AM , Rating: 2
Keep in mind the Army is trying to train soldiers to communicate under fire. To take commands when stressed. To make reasoned and critical decisions that may affect the outcome of an important mission. Realism of the targets involved is not the issue. The army has been using more realistic human style targets for decades now.

Command and control is the goal here.

While some may say that the games/simulations forward the theory that violent video games make violent kids the way that the Army is going to use this software will not support that. If anything the Army’s use of this software will show that using young men trained to kill and exposing them to this software will not lead to an increase of violent behavior from them as a group. Thus acting as a counter argument to the violent game violent children theory.

RE: Here's an idea
By MightyAA on 12/14/2007 10:54:43 AM , Rating: 2
Not exactly. You personally approach things differently when you are expecting to use it for training versus just doing it for fun. So army boy Joe will learn something completely different than gamer Bill even though they playing the same game. Bill learns that bunny hopping increases his chances for survival.. Joe disgards that notion since it won't help him in real life and will learn that positioning and communication will help him.

Unfortunately, if they run a study, they might relate violence to gaming. 20 year old kid deployed in Iraq has to be more violent than the kid in college.. Whether or not they filter the outside influences (or even acknowledge their presence) will come into question. A lot of studies have ignored these sorts of things and just focused on the gaming/tv alone; example is a violent household.

RE: Here's an idea
By 3kliksphilip on 12/14/2007 11:41:50 AM , Rating: 2
I don't agree with video games = violent people. The people who tend to play games a lot don't seem to be the people causing punch ups in the streets. At least, that's the case in the town where I come from.

If two different people play the same computer game, they'll eventually end up playing to survive the game. Stupid and extreme example : Unreal Tournament will make players bunny hop about the place. Operation Flashpoint on the other hand is realistic and leads to players hiding and sneaking about. It's really fun with a load of friends, all on voice communication. I believe this is how he army people would play the game. If that's so, surely gamers are learning actics used in the army, therefore training them to kill / stay alive? It might not be in a bad sense (and most tactics are just common sense), but it does close the gap between army warfare and what little Billy's playing in his spare time. Wasn't America's Army a game made to get people to join the army?

I remember a soldier thanking the makers of OPFP, claiming that 'he learnt useful tactics which helped him to stay alive' on their simulations. Perhaps the arguement can be turned to say that 'Computer games save the lives we care about'. It's all about how you look at it. But it's still ammo in the tabloid's (metaphorical) guns.

