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, wouldn't tell anyone who instructed susan rice to go with the video story. the way it went down, she was told to go out there to talk to five talk shows and there were talking points. who prepared the talking points and told them to go with the talking point? neither one of them would come clean on. >> dana: they have plausible deniability. they said we don't know who did it. that feels convenient. >> bob: president said the white house asked her to do it. >> dana: who prepared the information, that is the question. >> bob: the question is who gave her the talking points? and we know talking points she was given to her mind, given the same intelligence committees of the hill, >> dana: they could not talk about the role of ansar al-sharia when there is strong evidence of the involvement. if the chairwoman was getting advice about the question to ask, the question you have been asking since september 11. >> greg: incredible. do you think hillary got herself far enough away from this thing? she is in australia. feed her wine and we might get more facts from her slightly tipsy than anybo








. we are going to go. and then come back with new information on who changed susan rice's talking points before she went to five sunday shows to talk about the terrorist attack in benghazi? greg has that. later, don't miss greg's cooking segment. that is ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> announcer: 'tis the season of more-- more shopping, more dining out... and along with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen. you can't be on the lookout 24/7, but lifelock can. they're relentless about protecting your identity every minute of every day. when someone tries to take over your bank accounts, drain the equity in your home, or even tries to buy a car in your name, lifelock is on guard. and with lifelock's 24/7 alerts, they contact you by text, phone or email as soon as they detect suspicious activity in their network.


. >> that leads us now to susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations who went on national television and said this attack in benghazi, libya, was probably because of this anti-muslim film. >> reporter: exactly. >> she had talking points, right? where did those talking points come from? did they come from petraeus and the cia, were they edited later by the white house, do we know? >> reporter: we don't know. you heard peter king was asked that specific question. according to him and some others, we still don't know exactly where the disconnect was, if you will, between what the intelligence community now says that they believed at the time and the talking points that ended up with susan rice that ended up on television that sunday afterwards. it still doesn't seem to be very clear. the reason why he is now the former cia director is because of the affair that david petraeus had. he resigned one week ago. the question is whether or not that would come up at all. he said it was addressed at the beginning and he regretted what happened and that they didn't really address it at all after

the whole white house. take a listen. >> so when the president says that susan rice was giving out -- talking about the most updated and -- fully documented intelligence that the intelligence community had, that's not true. >> last night the message was that susan rice was disseminating incorrect intelligence and the president is wrong for defending her. now here is mr. king today after an intelligence briefing. >> did he seem concerned that things had been changed? was that surprising to you? >> he seemed to say at the time they didn't realize the full significance of that and that or an unclassified statement it was acceptable. again, it's still very vague. >> petraeus told king today that, quote, for an unclassified statement this was acceptable. again, it's still very vague. dana, to paraphrase the president, republicans got out in front of their own skis on this one, didn't they? >> yes. well, in congress they have a tradition of revising and extending their remarks and i think peter king -- what peter king just said was "never mind." >> what he said earlier, what do we do wit

and ambassador susan rice. both of these have been escalating, and on the fiscal cliff especially the clock is definitely ticking. let me give you a rundown of what's happening in the next couple hours. first, ambassador rice is meeting with two republican senators today. right now she's in with susan collins of maine. later she'll meet with bob corker. yesterday, too, she was on the hill defending herself over her comments following the benghazi attack, but the gop leaders only seemed more entrenched in their opposition. in addition, anytime now house democrats and house republicans will hold separate news conferences to talk about their closed-door meet ings on the fiscal cliff. at 11:30, president obama will make remarks at the white house surrounded by middle class americans who he says would see their taxes go up if congress can't make a deal. later he's hosting big business leaders to talk about ways to cut the deficit. joining me to talk about this, "washington post" political columnist day ma milbank and terence page. >> good morning. >> clarence, big development with tom cole break

attacking u.n. ambassador susan rice, someone who had nothing to do with the libya tragedy, mccain was out looking for another tv camera again. hey, america. this is what bitterness looks like. >> four americans died that didn't have to die. and for someone to go out and convey something that is absolutely false to all america in my view bears responsibility. >> i don't know how you logically assume that she had nothing to do with benghazi. the american people were told false information by her at the direction of the white house. >> now, we all know ambassador rice was stating the intelligence that had been provided to her. but mccain wasn't done. >> by the way, i'm not taking anybody on. the american people have lost four brave americans. we owe it to their families. we owe it to other americans who served. we'll find out what happened. for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that that was the case is either a cover-up or it is incompetence. either one of the two. i think the president of the united states has a lot to answer for. >> it's obama versus mcca

of susan rice's role, the confusing fact, we'll talk to senator mccain in a second so president obama took the opportunity to fire back directly at the senator. >> if senator mccain and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> well, senator mccain heard that remark. 73 minutes later took to the floor of the u.s. senate to respond. >> mr. president, four brave americans died. it has now been eight weeks and the american people have received nothing but contradictory statements from all levels of our government. this president and this administration has either been guilty of colossal incompetence, or engaged in a cover-up, neither of which are acceptable to the american people. >> keeping then honest, more than two months after the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, there are still some serious question

negligence or a cover up. today sep tor mccain took it a step further saying that because of susan rice's narrative role following the attacks, he and senator mccain would block any effort to promote ms. rice to secretary of state, should hillary clinton leave that post. president obama took the opportunity to fire back directly at the senator. >> if senators mccain and graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation, is outrageous. >> senator mccain heard that remark and 73 minutes later took to the floor of the u.s. senate to respond. watch. >> mr. president, four brave americans died. it has now been eight weeks, and the american people have received nothing but contradictory statements from all levels of our government. this president and this administration has either been guilty of colossal incompetence or engage ed d i



on the talking points, megan, which came from the cia, the famous talking points that supposedly susan rice relied on, they said talk came from cia, specifically mentioned al-qaeda and that al-qaeda was involved in the attack. and they left the cia, went to a whole process which i believe included the white house, and when the talking points were finalized all the the references to al-qaeda were taken out. >> and a lot to get through. let's start with greg. first of all, and petraeus testified under oath he knew within 24 hours it was al-qaeda or terrorism and this one, the talking points. >> i know, general petraeus is a wrecking crew right now. no one has done this much damage behind closed doors since ron jeremy and the question whether president obama was incompetent or hiding something and now we know, he's incompetent on hiding something. and we know that susan rice on talk shows was a big serving of baloney risotto. >> they protected the president by department the justice saying we didn't think it was important enough or a risk. >> they're covering it up because of the fact there wa

and particularly if susan rice is nominated to be secretary of state. you saw a lot of the senators talk talking about that as well this weekend. so i don't think that benghazi or some of the controversies surrounding susan rice is going to go a wway any time soon. >> it won't go away any time soon, but dana, what could cause stop the train when it gets going, because petraeus testified friday and didn't seem to stop anything, and so how do you put it to rest? >> well, sbitsing to see where the scandal goes, because it isless about what occurred there in benghazi than what was said on a television talk show on a sunday, and ultimately that sort of a scandal doesn't have legs. the actual policy issue, itself, is how well the compounds were protected and did things go quickly enough to protect the people there. that is largely a cia question, and largely something that will be resolved in the secure conference rooms where we won't hear what is going on there, and it is a political matter and the scandal won't go anywhere and it is quickly crowd out by much more significant things such as what is g

don't. >> dana: we will explain it in the break. we have to go. major power grab in egypt. susan rice blames the intel community. the anti-muslim video that we talk, he will speak for the first time. the foreign policy roundup is next. in [ male announcer ] are you considering a new medicare plan? then you may be looking for help in choosing the right plan for your needs. so don't wait. call now. whatever your health coverage needs, unitedhealthcare can help you find the right plan. open enrollment to choose your medicare coverage begins october 15th and ends december 7th. so now is the best time to review your options and enroll in a plan. medicare has two main parts, parts a and b, to help cover a lot of your expenses, like hospital care... and doctor visits. but they still won't cover all of your costs. now's the time to learn about unitedhealthcare plans that may be right for you. are you looking for something nice and easy? like a single plan that combines medicare parts a & b with prescription drug coverage? a medicare advantage plan can give you doctor, hospital and prescriptio

to go. major power grab in egypt. susan rice blames the intel community. the anti-muslim video that we talk, he will speak for the first time. the foreign policy roundup is next. ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: bold move thursday, egypt newly elected president mohammed morsi granted himself sweeping powellers to give him oversight of any kind and says it's necessary to push through much-needed reforms but they responded with violent protests. this is something that is controversial. people say we have opineed the arab spring but the democracy is thrown aside. >> eric: mohammed morsi before the peace treaty or the cease-fire they came to agree on, before it seemed like he was going to side with hamas, with the palestinians. somehow he came through and came through, first of all, the most important thing he did is declared that the egypt israeli peace treaty or treaty in effect and strong. that really told the world that egypt is going to continue to be a good ally. he is getting pushback from his people because he declared himself the czar or pharaoh or whatever once in power. but for me, egypt is

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tour. he didn't want two it. came out great. meeting that white house hoped would smooth susan rice's nomination, but the republican lawmakers set a stage for showdown over the ambassador comments following the benghazi attack. senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte of new hampshire met privately with her today. it did not go well. listen. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. information given the american people was wrong. ambassador rice said it was wrong and to be clear, if you are an ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond the unclassified talking points in the daily preparation for that job. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers that many got. some we didn't get. >> she had no intention to mislead the american people. >> the white house blames the critics. listen. >> the focus on some might say the obsession on comments made on sunday shows seems to me and to many to be misplaced. >> the national shows get too much attention. are you surprised that ambassador rice didn't have a better explanation for her interview? >> dana:



-- written about this. there are many legitimate reasons to object to susan rice being the next secretary of state. remember response to the benghazi situation is not one of them. she was doing what was expected of her as a spokesman for the administration. one suspects that senators graham and mccain and ayotte have other reasons for opposing her and are using this as an excuse but it's fairly flimsy because while there are legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in benghazi -- >> but dana, hang on a second. if you have a problem with susan rice, let her be nominated, challenge her, and go through due process. why do this on the basis of intelligence that she had received that's consistent with the information that she was given by the cia? >> not only is it illogical, it is counterproductive because they're putting the president in a position of saying he's going to nominate her if he wasn't before because now he's not going to look like he's caving in or backing down. so they're going to achieve the exact opposite of what they're purporting to want. >> absolutely astonishi



buddy of mine. susan rice, top candidate to succeed hillary clinton, is there a defamation suit against her in the deaf matory statement that identifies -- defa mashtory statement to identify filmmaker of the cup prit, publication of the statement and damages. went to jail. could he sue? i don't know, i'm not a lawyer. >> andrea: i think he should sue. i don't think the obama administration will let him out. the problem is he did violate his parol. other parol officers are going i'll make a video. let me out of jail, too. but look, i don't think the policy of the administration is one of doing the right thing. i will point out that one, the documents won't be available. administration documents. oh, wait, it's when they are back in their district. i point out that the muslim brotherhood came out and made chastising statement. they embrace and welcome the muslim brotherhood. now they school us. policy is working, bob, to appease the radical arab world. >> eric: let's go, a big segment coming up. >> bob: all right. >> important one. >> greg: voters in two states chose to make it legal for




reporting says he's going to say and we've seen the cia talking points for susan rice,s as well, if he says listen immediately thought radical islamist group, same time there was intelligence that seemed to indicate that the video might have a role would that, would that explain to you what we now know about susan rice's testimony, which has become a big center of all of this, you know, talking certainly about, whether she's going to have a chance to be secretary of state, do does that make her position on "meept the press" five days later make some kind of sense? >> not to me. and everybody will have to judge that on their own. to me it still falls way short. we know, we know the events that happened. those are public, it's in the public domain. and to blame a video, i think, is offensive, not only to our own, you know, constitutional belief in freedom of speech, but just the idea that the administration would go out and blame a video, instead of what really happened, that this was a terrorist attack that killed four americans. so no i don't think it gets anybody off the hook for statement

against susan rice. newspapers that perpetuated the baloney especially those that continued to. now that we know the video didn't cause the attack. rice would have some defense bus the truth ain't one of them. you got to say, mr. obama, being the first president to jail a citizen for art is the opposite of cool. your b.f.f., hugo chavez should be the model for your second term. i know you probably want to help eric holder one at least one case. no one was investigating the guy's parole violation until you made him your fall guy in the election. congratulations, you won. now free the poor sap. what do you say, dana? dai >> dana: i think that's brilliant. i think it is the right thing to do. for many reasons. they wrongly accused him. he has been in jail for probation. nobody in california sits in jail for probation for a year. they don't have the room. president obama is the only one who has the power to do so. it would one, admit, that okay, they got it wrong. it would also maybe at that point, then the media might pay attention to it. >> greg: bob, could it be now that we are past



of no return was the day susan rice, the ambassador went on the tv and said something demonstrably false. you haven't seen or heard from her sense. >> greg: how many story from the filmmaker over the champion of expression? >> bob: how many rumors is newt gingrich going to have? >> andrea: when we come back -- we'll see if it's a rumor. >> bob: we'll see. >> andrea: rich, white liberals is so anxious that romney could win they have trouble sleeping and can't exercise. greg has the ailments ailing the left as we approach election day. coming up next. ♪ ♪ [ cheeping ] [ male announcer ] you hear that? that's the sound of car insurance compani these days. here a cheap, there a cheap, everywhere a cheap... you get it. so, what if instead of just a cheap choice, you could make a smart choice? like, esurance for example. they were born online and built to save people money from the beginning. it's what they've always done. not just something they cheap about. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. de and ♪ esurance. now backed by allstate. ♪

throw days after the september 11 attacks. two days after he blamed the video, susan rice went out there. subsequent to this we found out of day one, the obama administration, the intel community, even knew it wasn't video, it was the terror attack. why would petraeus do it? was there something held over his head where he said go out there and say video? otherwise we'll blow it wide open. that is a theory. >> greg: obama should arrest the director of "fatal attraction" and say it caused her to go after paula broadwell. maybe petraeus didn't want to say certain things in the testimony. >> dana: he finally said, if broadwell had the final interview the week before the election. can you manual wha imagine the t the f.b.i. who had to con front david petraeus. what it's like to say by the way, sir, we know you've been having an apair with the biographer, because there is another woman upset about it. i wonder if he knew all along. i don't believe he was given a polygraph test when he went to afghanistan, running afghanistan to being the c.i.a. director. i'm not sure if it's out of line, but i

? >> dana: they did way back ththen on september 13. the pnt of no retur wasas the dayy susan rice, thembassador went onhe tv and said someththing demonstrably false. you haven't sn or heard fm hesense. >> greg: h many story frorom the filmmaker overhe chamon of expressssion? >> bob: how manyny rors is newt gingrich g going to have? >> andrea: whewe come baback -- we' see if it't's a rumor.r. >> bob: we'll see.e. >> a andrea: rich, whihite lirals iso anxious t that romney could win theyave troubl sleeping and can't exercise. greg has the ailments ailingg the left as we approach election day. coming up next. ♪ ♪ [ cheepi ] [ male annnnouncer ] yohear that? that's the sound ofar insurance comompani these days. hhere a cheap, there a cap, everywhere a cheap.... you get it so, what if instead of just a cheap cice, y could make a smart choioice? like, esurance f example. they were bororn online and built to savpeople money frfrom the beginning. it's whathey've always done. not just something they cheap abt. that's insurance for the modern rld. esurance. now backed by allstate.e. cli

.n. ambassador susan rice met on a charm offensive to explain comments after the libya terror attack, where she blamed the non-existent demonstration sparked by anti-islam video. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and my kriegs with "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> brian: i'm going with eric to pick my own music. [ laughter ] power ball hysteria is in full force today with hours to go before tonight's historic drawing. tonight could be your night. $4,550,000,000 up for -- $500 million up for grabs. second in lotto history. some times thing turn bad for winners, most of the time. there is a so-called lottery murder in tampa, florida. that's one you turned bad. the story has abraham shakespeare. $30 million lottery in 2006. killed in 2009, ad by his girlfriend dorse. he accused of swindling out of what wa was left of his winning. who side are you on, dore ris who says she did not kill him, just took his money and invested it wild lil or for shakespeare for winning to begin with? facebook >> dana: i blame him because in the story it says she befriended him.

does not get done in time? we'll look at what sequestration really means. it appears susan rice had access to the president's daily brief before she made her misleading statement about the cause of the september 11 attacks. now back to my colleagues at "the five." ♪ ♪ >> brian: this is a senior and has autism and other development issues and a t place kicker, which is extraordinary. having a rough season. but anthony led the team to upset victory. here is how it sounded. [ cheering ] >> brian: this game-winning field goal is a hit on youtube ever since. what is amazing, this kid loves rutgers. he used to sit in the stands. developmentally around 12 years old. going to high school and beloved by everybody. sitting in the stands watching rutgers play and watched rutgers win a game with a field goal in 2006. he said dad, that's what i'm doing. he said are you sure? he said i'm going to be a field goal kicker. three steps back, two steps to the side and right through the ball. he was focused and he is a fantastic kicker and has this moment. you know all about autism and the challeng

to the job. susan rice is another person who has been mentioned who has less kind of gravitas on capitol hill, compared to john kerry. my guess is president obama will try to find someone relatively comparable who can shine in the media, who can do well with members of capitol hill as they deal with the challenges abroad. >> the democrats kept control of the senate, wolf. it is slightly easier when he's talking about confirmees. but the benghazi dustup put a tarnish on susan rice. does that have a bomb ofpotenti more bruising confirmation fight? >> the television appearance, five sunday talk shows in which she said what she said and given how angry the republicans are on this whole benghazi thing, the accusations they're making and they're going after her directly, i don't know if the president wants to start off a second term with a bruising confirmation battle for susan rice. so from her perspective, i think it has hurt her. john kerry, he did a pretty good job helping in the debates. i think he's got a good shot at it. we'll see if anybody else emerges as a candidate. >> republican senator

susan rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. >> reporter: republicans have gone after rice for her statements made after the attack on the u.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi. five days after the violence that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans, she attributed it to outrage in the arab world over an anti-muslim video and not an act of terrorism. >> but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmirch her reputation... is outrageous! >> reporter: senator mccain has vowed to block rice's nomination should the president choose her to replace secretary of state hillary clinton. mccain and graham are also calling for a special watergate- style investigation into the benghazi attack. >> we want to probe everybody involved all the way up to and including the president of the united states. >> this is about the role she played around four




to be secretary of state. and susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. i have no doubt she would like to be secretary of state. what do you think? >> i think both of those, wolf, would be absolutely spectacular. i think john kerry did a fabulous job this election and in terms of really focusing on what the president's agenda has been and will continue to be. i think susan rice is also a very valuable member of the president's cabinet. i would love to see her be secretary of state, as i think a lot of americans out there would. so i think that he's got some terrific people to choose from. but i also would posit this. maybe not for secretary of state but in terms of as you see all these cabinet positions being reshuffled, i might get some hate mail from my democratic friends about this, but maybe he should think about appointing another republican. and so that way -- >> anyone in mind? >> i don't. >> he did, you know -- >> but that would be something that goes to this bringing people together. >> you did have -- we'll bring alex and david into this. he did have -- ray lahood is his

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