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01-23-2006 05:51 PM
M&M CUSTOM Thanks for your opinion here Dave. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

The modifications the shows I enter into call for examples including non-stock wheels, custom paint, obviously non stock engines like something that never had anything more than a V-6 now sporting a V-8. Obvious things that everyone accepts as never being offered in the particular make/model.

Common sense would tell anyone that a chopped top, a blown anything, and tubbed rear, is nothing but a major modification, NONE of which came from the factory on ANY manufacturers' vehicle, I am talking here about stuff that actually came from the factory, that could have possibly been an offering on a car that it didn't originally come as an option on.

When I had the car appraised two years ago the only things the appraiser stated as non stock were paint and wheels, everything else is exactly the same as back then only I have switched to a different set of wheels and added the stripes.

Same thing as a COPO, or anything that rolled out of the service entrance at theYenko, Berger, Nickey, Baldwin-Motion, or any other dealer that offered a modified vehicle from the dealer with a warranty using stock and modified stock parts.

Now I am not really even close to having a problem with anyone's point of view of my car, it's an opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs, I don't expect anyone to like my car for what it is or what I've done to it. I do.
Yes I realize it's not even a desireable model, and that a sedan is less desireable than a coupe, but I show it because it is realistically unique, hardly anyone shows ANY four door from 1960 on. Be different.

And as far as opinions go, here's mine, I would like to see someone actually put a Ford engine in a three window coupe, or a T-bucket.
01-23-2006 04:13 PM
stock or modified ?


01-22-2006 04:09 PM
01-22-2006 10:38 AM
M&M CUSTOM According to the shows rules of 3 mods and still stock, it technically is still that way with paint, wheels, and possibly interior if they get picky. I am even running the original 267 with 165,000 miles on it, the only changes to it are currently the camshaft, and fuel pump.

Like all the cookie cutter magazines say:

"Run what you brung", and "dare to be different".

I know I don't have as desireable a car as a 2-door, or an antique, or even a classic muscle car.

The air-dam and spoiler are factory originals found on a Malibu M80 as there was never a 6th generation SS.

I cannot fully expect to be excited about the newer generation SS designation on the cars rolling off the line in the past 7 years.

A four door econobox with nothing that will set me back in the seat and bring a smile to my face doesn't deserve the SS badges like the first run of the newest generation of Monte Carlo (they finally wised up and added a supercharger with a measly 40 horsepower addition to the base model), same thing with the latest generation Impala (40 HP over LS model, but they added over 150 pounds with the modifications to the drivetrain and exhaust.

There aren't very many ricers in this area that waste their time showing their cars with the muscle car crowd because they cannot compete against a majority.
Your car doesn't mean a thing, it's who you know.
My car is not a coupe, a muscle car, or from the late 60's/ early 70's era, and I don't pretend it to be. I go to have a good time and have actually gained some respect for showing something different.

Mainly because I'm running a different car, the judges aren't sure at all about the specifics for the particular year. The color was actually an option for the entire Chevrolet lineup for 1981, with an RPO code stating [NON-RECOMMENDED PAINT COLOR].

Only one member here on Hotrodders was able to help me determine what the wheels were from before I bought them.
01-22-2006 09:23 AM

Why did you start this poll? You admit the car is not stock and you have many SS parts on a four door. To my knowledge the only SS four doors were the late 90's Impalas. Why don't you just forget the whole show car scene and enjoy your car. The judged car shows are all crap anyway. Your car doesn't mean a thing, it's who you know. The participant voting shows in my area are won by the same people because they all get together and vote for each other. If a bunch of ricers come in with stock cars except for big tires and a wing, they take all the trophies by pooling their votes. They can do this because there are no separate classes. I don't waste my time going to these things. I attend non judged, events for charity and have a good time. Besides, no matter what, some guy can enter a Boyd or Chip mobile that is way beyond my financial and skill resources any day.

drive it like you stole it, Dave
01-22-2006 08:09 AM




01-21-2006 12:25 PM
poncho62 First thing I would do is....weld up 2 of those doors......... .........Kidding..

Even though, as Red Forman would say..."They are genuine GM parts", it does not keep it stock. How stock it is depends on what the various judges say......and what they know. Most of the car shows I go to, the judges are just any old "Joe Blow" off the street, who know as little or less than I do.
01-21-2006 11:54 AM











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