

Consumers choose fuel efficient normal vehicles over EVs and hybrids


Chevrolet Volt sales are up.


Sources: Detroit News, Detroit News

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RE: I'm only saving 1 gallon of gas
By Spuke on 5/2/2012 7:00:48 PM , Rating: 1
The Volt would be flying off the shelves if it saved that much. For most people it'll be ~$60/mo. That's still worth it, though.
People that can afford to buy a Volt spend more than $60/month on coffee. You guys need to look at this from a person that can actually AFFORD that car not from a teenager living off their parents. I can easily afford a Volt but it doesn't make any sense economically if I ONLY look at from a cost savings point of view (or any car like it). Even if I looked at it from an oil reduction viewpoint, it STILL doesn't make any sense. A USED, fuel efficient car is FAR less oil dependent than ANY new one period.

Here's a new one. If you REALLY cared about your environment, you'd start by turning some of your goddamned lights off for one. With all this so-called "green movement" BS, the typical energy usage is STILL at 1000kWh per month per household in the US! Hasn't gone down not ONE 1 watt but everyone cares so much about our environment. BULLSHIT!!!

RE: I'm only saving 1 gallon of gas
By Ringold on 5/2/2012 9:58:11 PM , Rating: 1

Nailed it, because there are so many hippies out there that if they were really doing what they preach it'd manage to make a dent in the overall numbers.

Shakespeare comes to mind ... struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.

RE: I'm only saving 1 gallon of gas
By Mint on 5/3/2012 9:51:19 AM , Rating: 2
Do you two enjoy just making facts up?

First of all, what does electricity conservation have to do with the topic at hand?

Not a dent in energy use, huh?

Too much lighting? (fine, it's Canada, but so what).

Flat electricity consumption per household is a stark contrast to decades past, so that's a pretty big fail in trying to prove the ineffectiveness of the green movement.

RE: I'm only saving 1 gallon of gas
By Mint on 5/3/2012 10:35:43 AM , Rating: 2
Really? If you spend $33k on a car then you automatically spend $700/yr on coffee? You think that about Civic buyers as well? Equally equipped and leased, they have roughly the same monthly running cost.

Used cars offer more value than new ones? Wow, hand this man a Nobel Prize in economics for that brilliant insight. Why don't we all buy used cars. Then we don't have to make any more...

You must have been dropped on your head as a kid...

RE: I'm only saving 1 gallon of gas
By Spuke on 5/3/2012 12:25:34 PM , Rating: 1
You must STILL be getting dropped on your head. I said NOTHING about value and NOTHING about automatic. Go back and read my post. I'll give you some clues, the Volt does NOT cost $33,000. It starts at $39,145. A tax CREDIT is NOT tax refund. In order for you to collect a tax credit, you MUST have tax liability. If you get a refund (yes there are still people that get refunds in the Volts target market...$170,000 per year), you do NOT get the credit. Simple as that. And you STILL never get cash, you get to apply that credit towards your tax liability. So guess what? The car still costs $39,145 plus.

By Jaybus on 5/3/2012 2:19:26 PM , Rating: 2
The bottom line is that there are three choices. Revert back to doing without modern conveniences in order to use less energy, accept that nuclear power is currently the only way to eliminate fossil fuel usage, or whine loudly while hoping for science to come up with a viable non-nuclear alternative. Most in the "green movement" dismiss nuclear power out of hand, so I guess that puts them in the whine and hope category.

