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RE: Microsofts disregard for customers
By daniyarm on 4/16/2008 11:53:44 AM , Rating: 5
If I paid for a previous version of Windows I have EVERY RIGHT to install an upgrade version weather I have the disc or not. What if my XP disc got damaged?! And what about their licensing regarding single computer use. As long as I use only 1 computer in the house, I have every right to use 1 copy of OS.

RE: Microsofts disregard for customers
By imperator3733 on 4/16/2008 11:58:00 AM , Rating: 2
If you have an XP license, then you can get the upgrade version and install Vista using the "loophole" method. After that, you couldn't use the XP license anymore since it has been upgraded. In this case, the "loophole" method is legal since you already have a eligible license to upgrade from. The problem is when people don't have a previous license.

RE: Microsofts disregard for customers
By MrBlastman on 4/16/08, Rating: -1
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By crimson117 on 4/16/2008 12:49:20 PM , Rating: 3
No, a more accurate analogy is if you got a discount on the new Subaru by trading in your old Subaru. You wouldn't expect to still be allowed to drive the old Subaru after making the trade-in.

If you wanted to drive both, you could keep the old one and just pay full price for the new Subaru.

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By zombiexl on 4/16/2008 2:31:27 PM , Rating: 3
The level of stupidity in your post gave me a migraine.

You got a customer appreciation discount. An upgrade is more analogous to a trade-in like it or not. They (MS) just don’t resell old software like they (car dealers) do with old cars.

When you install the upgrade you are agreeing to stop using the old version. So while you may have the physical media, you do not have a license to use it. Read the damn license and then and only then open your mouth about a subject on which you seem to be blissfully ignorant.

By hcahwk19 on 4/16/2008 3:50:28 PM , Rating: 2
The problem with all software licenses today, are that they are not accessible until after you open the package and begin the installation. Only then does the EULA pop up. Read it just once. You have to be a lawyer to understand many of the provisions and clauses in the EULA. Since most people are not lawyers, and would not understand some or much of the EULA, they simply click that they agree with the terms, whether they actually do or not. The terms are never negotiated, and the only reason they exist are because we as consumers have not rejected them en masse enough to make a statement. Therefore, these software companies lead us around by the short hairs repeatedly and proceed to stomp all over our private parts because they know that we won't tell them NO. So what happens if you don't agree with the EULA. Many stores do not allow returns on opened software, and therefore you are screwed if you do not like the terms of the EULA.

RE: Microsofts disregard for customers
By bighairycamel on 4/16/2008 4:16:19 PM , Rating: 2

Wow, you just pretty much summed up his entire point, while insulting him at the same time. Maybe it's time to take a reality check on the ignorance-alert.

RE: Microsofts disregard for customers
By zombiexl on 4/16/2008 4:49:53 PM , Rating: 2
Can you point out where I'm wrong in my assessment of the license? I stated fact, with a little humorous insult that really wasn’t that funny in hindsight.

You may not like it, but that’s what you get when you buy an upgrade. Check the dictionary if you think I’m wrong.

RE: Microsofts disregard for customers
By bighairycamel on 4/16/2008 5:26:48 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't say you were wrong, i said you summed up his point... which being that if you get the "upgrade" you are no longer allowed to use the older product that you bought and paid for.

So what if it's in the license; his point and argument was that's its stupid. 99.9% of consumers would like to be able to use a product for life if they paid for it. Are you really that much of a corporate puppet that you would side with the rediculous license agreement?

By zombiexl on 4/16/2008 5:30:16 PM , Rating: 2
I wasn’t aware that being intelligent enough to know the definition of upgrade made someone a puppet.

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1. XP is a standalone operating system
2. Vista is a standalone operating system










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You are correct as they bascially all are the same thing.



