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Re: My favorite food for feasting:

by Smaug (Pilgrim)
on Nov 13, 2006 at 06:48 UTC ( #583653=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to My favorite food for feasting:

Seafood ??

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Re^2: My favorite food for feasting:
by chargrill (Parson) on Nov 13, 2006 at 07:35 UTC

    Oddly enough, I had a conversation about this with my wife this weekend, on the way to a wedding reception, where we were debating what we 'ordered' on the RSVP cards.

    She said something along the lines of: "I think I put you down for meat, and I think I put myself down for fish." Naturally, I responded "Isn't fish meat?". The answer: "No. Well, yes, it's a type of meat, but it's not meat, it's fish."

    So there is definitely some set of people that think that meat == beef, pork, or chicken, and vegetarian == non-meat. To some of these people, non-meat includes fish, which makes no sense to me, but oodles of sense to my wife. Possibly because she hails from the east coast of the US, where seafood is plentiful, and needs to be classified differently from normal midwestern fare such as beef, chicken, and pork. Which are all meats. But not seafood. Thus the strange non-meat distinction.

    I asked her very kindly to refer to non-seafood 'meat' as either beef, pork or chicken - but no, those are meat, while seafood is fish. And not meat. Which I do not understand, but understandably have to accept.

    Suffice it to say that some vegetarians (perhaps our own ysth included) consider fish a non-meat meat, and thus don't include it on meat v. non-meat polls.

    Update:Oh, and due to the above, I have no idea how my wife would answer the poll for Christmas, where her family observes the (italian|catholic|east-coast) tradition of the "Feast of (nearly) 7 fishes", where they feast on several (up to, but never more than, 7) types of fish, none of which I particularly care for ;-)


      The word denial comes to mind. :-)

      heh, you've done the same thing. You treated seafood and fish as synonyms. ( Uh, no you didn't ) What about crustaceans and mollusks? They're not fishes, but they're definitely seafood.

      ummmm... lobster...



        ummmm... lobster...

        ewwwwww.... water cockroach.

        I prefer my seafood to be educational (warning -- flash), rather than edible.

        (and for the feasting, I'd have preferred lamb or goat)

      One time I was traveling and getting a little bit tired of eating steak. I asked if they had something besides meat, and they replied yes, they had chicken.

      This was in southern Germany, and it wasn't a translation error since the person who asked for me speaks fluent German. (I've actually had some of the best vegetarian food at the German Perl Workshop, but I don't think that's the norm.)


      # I eat most red meat and fowl, but not fish or pork. The term for this diet is 'picky'.


        Well, I was in Dortmund, Germany in March, and I must have had a dozen straight meals where I had pig. Man, I was dying for some lovely grilled beef when I got home.

        Alex / talexb / Toronto


      Ha Ha!!



      Roger Waters (from the album Radio K.A.O.S.):
      Californian Weirdo: "I don't like fish."
      Californian Weirdo: "I don't like fish."
      Jim: "Oh no!"
        Crocodile: red or white?

        Tuna: red meat or fish?

        Whale: red meat or fish?

        Long pig: the other white meat?

        "I'd like to be home, with my monkey and my dog..."
        "I don't care, shut up, play the record."


        In my mind, if it's in the animal kingdom, it's meat. Which includes fish, chicken, snails, crickets, cows, whatever. Which makes me wonder. Would a cricket be considered white meat?




        What about sea cucumbers? :-)
        Of course, there's also fungi. As far as I know that's fair game to vegetarians.

      Clearly, fish is not meat. I shall demonstrate:

      Consider this jar of "herring in cream sauce". Note that the ingredients include herring and sour cream.

      Now note the hekhsher. It is classified as "kosher, dairy". Since kosher prohibits the mixing of meat and milk, and this is milchik, clearly the herring parts are not meat.


      yours, helpfully,

      And chickens are even worse.

      Though all of them are quite tasty.

      tbone1, YAPS (Yet Another Perl Schlub)
      And remember, if he succeeds, so what.
      - Chick McGee

      I've had similar conversations with some of my Eastern Indian coworkers and friends.

      Turns out, there are many different ways across that sub-continent; and many have their own interpretation of diet.
      Nisha is from Caerla in the south and she will eat anything, no dietary restrictions.
      Sampath is her neighbor to the east, and he won't eat any animal products, even dairy products, but he will eat fish.
      Rama is his compatriot and will eat chicken, and dairy.

      On the other hand, my wife was raised in a Spanish Catholic home; and they interpreted the "meatless" Fridays rule to be "you must eat fish." Whereas in my experience (Irish Catholic/ Episcopalian) Mac and Cheese was as valid as fish because the idea for us was just "no meat".




      —Igor Sikorsky, reported in AOPA Pilot magazine February 2003.

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