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Reuters: Snowden Documents Could Be 'Worst Nightmare' For U.S.

BUENOS AIRES | Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:50am EDT



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Greenwald "For those who say

"For those who say that they wish there was more attention paid to the substance of the NSA stories than Snowden: here is the list of the NSA revelations we've published over the last month. Feel free to focus on them any time."


Thanks for that. . .

Its helpful to see it summarized.


Dangerous Information

I would like to think that the dangerous information that Edward Snowden possesses consists of compromising photos of some of our high profile political leaders of both political parties. Maybe a photo of someone wearing a tutu? That said, Snowden seems to me to be more like Paul Revere than Benedict Arnold.

Ed Rombach

Is this the article Greenwald said is distorted?

I think it is. Glenn just wrote and tweeted about this.


For those who haven't seen it: Reuters wildly distorted out of context my comments to La Nacion about Snowden's docs:


Check out http://iroots.org/

Greenwald called this article, "wildly distorted"

You're right, radiofriendly. Reuters' shills have, once again, pounded their keyboards into weapons of mass distortion.



"This "threat" fiction is


Glen Greenwald



And so it should be

To have "100% security" you have to have 0% privacy, and that means anything and everything going on in an individuals life, not just limited to the internet, but by far, that is the biggest violation, in regards to its effectiveness

You cant stop random acts of violence or "terrorism" unless the plan is to completely and utterly monitor EVERYSINGLE individual, in EVERYTHING they do.......to "kidnap", "educate", force, threat or TRAIN, people how to act......that will be the result of the "security" mentality, which people have rightly said, that is not a free society

I think you can have a certain level of security, but i dint think for one second that it cant be made to COMPLIMENT freedom........no, i believe those that dont, are just power hungery in the tools that they believe they can create, blinded by them, eager for them, sooooo much, that they'll do ANYTHING to realise these tools

In my opinion, this is not a bloody movie, its real life, and nobody should have that kind of power, especially so, if you understand its just a tool, but one so new, so expansive, so extraordinary, that depending on who has control of it, one that, yes, could be used for great good, AND great "evil"

Going by HISTORY, the people should be tearing down the systems with their own two hands, just to make SURE

The way I see it

The guy told everyone in America that their worst possible fears were confirmed when it came to surveillance. Maybe the surveillance is a result of paranoia from 9/11, maybe its a major power grab, maybe it is an attempt to stop a nuke, and maybe it is ALL of those things. But the bottom line is that if he is killed, what has been said by Greenwald, if you do your homework, is that he has precise information about physical (i.e. human) assets working covertly. His untimely death would mean that info is released to the public. I don't think there is going to be some bombshell revelation. We already got hit with it. People are just too asleep and busy with their daily lives to give a damn about the 4th amendment.

What Snowden has done is allowed the issue the chance to be adjudicated by the Supreme Court, which is what should happen when there is a Constitutional crisis. Anyone who denies this is living in a fantasy land themselves: the ACLU and EFF are bringing it to the SCOTUS.

What an honest administration would do is grant this guy immunity and let him testify before Congress so we can get this on Congressional record and amend the FISA law or abolish it altogether and use such technology on an emergency type of basis. That's my view. The technology exists, I mean DARPA posts videos of cyborg robots that they are building for god sakes. If you ask me, a lot of this is just wasteful.

America has done just fine for 200 years without some crazy program designed to monitor what everyone is doing. Any other revelations from Snowden are the threat of an insurance policy of sorts in case they try to kill him like they did Ellsberg.

As far as turning himself in, well, the guy would be slammed. Is it a crime to reveal a potentially, major larger crime? The issue of Constitutionality trumps legality and we will see that play out if the Supreme Court is brave enough to hear the cases coming down the pipe.

As far as Snowden really being stuck in the transit zone - I had my doubts that this was true - but the fact that he is - just mind boggling. Let the guy go live his life he already told us we're screwed. Its obvious he hasnt leaked any secret info to the Chinese or Russians hes too much of a patriot/nationalist to do that. Just let him go live in a log cabin somewhere and deal with the real issue at hand IMO.

We need to know.

Because if that truth gets lost, we will never be set free and we will never make it to the future.

No more blackmailing, or stalling, or holding information bit-by-bit for effect, or being simply too slow. People have died because they were too late! What we need is to know what exactly is wrong with the world, so that we may save our future—the people around us, the world around us, our children and more.


When the neo-con shills and flakes

Are hovering over a topic like ticks on a mule, you know damn well the shit could really hit the fan.

What could be exposed?
-Awkward and impossible to explain away AIPAC conversations?
-Halliburton bribes?
-Embarrassing Saudi and Bin Laden revelations?
-CIA black ops?
-911 confessions?

There are so many neo-con tricks it's hard to tell what it will be.

PLEASE. Let it be 9/11

PLEASE. Let it be 9/11 confessions!

-S.R. Hadden

How long will it be,

now that the USA is incompetent in it's handling of "sensitive" information, that the UN steps in to monitor all spying as an "impartial" over lord?

UN intervention--at some point

I don't see why your comment was down-voted. Actually, UN intervention at some future point is what I expect to happen, too--to "save the day" and "restore order", or something like that. Perhaps after financial collapse, another large scale false flag event, deliberately stirred-up racial riots--just name the "event". But I believe UN intervention might be the eventual plan, in the not-too-distant future. We have to do what we can and all that we can to prevent such a thing from happening.

Now, the handling of "sensitive" information is nothing new. It has always leaked like a sieve. What concerns me is the standard by which a document is marked as "classified" or "sensitive". Truthfully, the things that Snowden has revealed (which have been hinted at for years), should have been revealed to the citizenry long ago by an honest and transparent government. Unfortunately, "honest and transparent" are quaint terms that do not in any way describe our government.

Up-voted your comment.

Thanks vietvet.

I don't think too many people in the US realize that the UN is an extremely powerful World Power and Global Manipulator.

Information doesn't leak like a sieve

You of all people should know that, living through the Nixon years. The thousands of people involved in the Nixon conspiracy were threatened, compartmentalized and suppressed for a long time.

Government conspiracies such as Watergate or Iran/Contra take years to get out, sometimes decades.

When there are large scale leaks, it's usually a single individual going rogue. (Manning, Snowden, Ellsberg et al)

its the e-mails

Mr. Snowden left with 4 laptops full of information, likely on people in authority, especially Bush & Cheney.
Its highly likely he "captured" some nice Bush-Cheney e-mails that address advanced knowledge of 911.
This would be reason enough to "scramble" those jets.
Info on the Drug War, War on Terrorism, and WMD's in Iraq.
Showing the whole world what a "scam" job the Government and MSM has been running on the American people is not a national security threat, its a threat to the liars in charge of the Government.

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Here are my thoughts.

Here are my thoughts.

It better turn out to be somewhat or largely exaggerated, but, God forbid, in the case it's not, dear Americans, please DO NOT fall in the trap "they" will set up:

that which, WILL NO DOUBTS BE to continue, to intensify, their putting the blame and defaming Edward Snowden and others for "putting at risk" U.S. interests / national security.

Because here's the truth I believe in:

by disclosing such information, with or without Edward Snowden still around, really, that would be THE GREATEST SERVICE that he, and the few other men and women defending him on ground TODAY, HAVE EVER RENDERED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and to the restoring of the foundations of their country.

That's what my parents taught me :

One can only hope to get what THEY HAVE REALLY PAID FOR.

One WILL ALWAYS lose what THEY HAVE NEGLECTED for too long.






greenwald responds to reuter's article...

I thought it sounded off; not like Glenn.


Debbie's picture

Thank you!

Great response.


The irony in all this is

The irony in all this is quite remarkable. The NSA may have been used to blackmail anyone they want. Now, we have Snowden's secrets being used to blackmail (kind of) the most powerful government in the world, the United States. It's almost like checkmate. I hope the information isn't just held though; I'd like to know what the scumbags have been doing.

I'd like to see him

give them all just enough rope to hang themselves in the process. Time might be important for others, but I'm savoring this a bit. I'd like to see a few more people caught lying under oath before all the cards are shown.

Just remembered something.

Remember when Snowden said in that first interview with Greenwald that he, sitting at his desk, could wire tap just about anyone. He specifically said a supreme court judge or a president if he had their e-mail. I'm starting to think that maybe those were carefully chosen words. Perhaps there are some skeletons ready to fall out of some people's closets.

The operative word is "could"

some some how I don't think it will be.
More Smoke from the Guardian.
The Guardians CEO, Amelia Chilcott Fawcett, former head of Morgan Stanly European division, responsible for 6.7 billion in revenue.
Former CEO Mr Myners, was a chief Executive for Rothschild Merchant Bank.
Last time I looked Rothschild Banking was not a FRIEND of LIBERTY.
Has something changed?

Good points

but I'm not sure Greenwald's position at the Guardian is an easy ride. He's said in interviews before that his stuff hasn't exactly gone over well with everybody at the Guardian before.

Do you think that Greenwald

could be unwittingly used as a pawn? He went from Salon.com to the Guardian.
I doubt the people who are/or have been, involved in both Salon.com and the Guardian. The people behind the scenes pull some heavy weight in Google, Apple, Media and Big Banking and "government".
I have a nagging feeling that there maybe innocent, brave,and sincere people caught up in a very sophisticated, Global Maneuver.


that's the nature of the MSM in general. We're all kind of in the cross fire of global games that are going on, journalists especially, but I wouldn't say we're all unwitting pawns just because there are pressures routinely applied to us. Right now Greenwald looks like he's hitting some powerful people over the head with their dirty laundry. If that's their pawn, then they are playing to lose.

Maybe So...


The government has very

The government has very little excuse for keeping things from the American Public. This "national security" excuse is getting really overused.

The Beauty of the Insurance File;


Worst nightmare for US government, one of the better days for US people and their constitutional rights. Either way we win. Long live ES.


keep 'em comin.