

Bankers affected say it's no big deal


I. Adobe Flaw Likely Exploited by Hackers.





Adobe Cold Fusion

In the press release for the patch, Adobe stated:





II. Hackers Still Flaming Mad About Swartz's Death




Aaron Swartz


III. Sabu to be Sentenced


Sabu 1



Source: Reuters

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RE: These sentences are ridiculous
By ritualm on 2/8/2013 6:27:02 PM , Rating: 1
You personally said we should punish black hat hackers with prison terms because they are an affront to the so-called law and order in "a nation of laws".

Meanwhile, because we're sending these folks to prison and Death Row, we find ourselves unable to defend against black hat hackers from the Chinese PLA wreaking havoc on our information systems.

Ammohunt, how does it feel to repeatedly shoot yourself in the foot while your neighbor has your jugular vein squarely in their AR-15 crosshairs?

RE: These sentences are ridiculous
By Armageddonite on 2/8/2013 7:23:35 PM , Rating: 2
1. Which hackers have been sent to "Death Row"?? Provide names.

2. The Chinese hackers usually attack the same targets as Anonymous. These so-called hacktivists are not heroes, they're as bad as a hostile foreign organization.

3. Ammohunt's alleged psychotic neighbor has nothing to do with this discussion.

RE: These sentences are ridiculous
By ritualm on 2/9/2013 1:40:09 PM , Rating: 3



1. Exactly how many white-collar financial executives were sent to prison with hefty jail terms or Death Row over their misdeeds, which affected thousands of innocent people and cost taxpayers upwards of billions?

Now compare to how many computer-literate and savvy folks who received jail terms for their comparatively-harmless behavior?

You don't need quack scientists to see why this is full of bull.

2. The problem with your rationale is we're actively sending our best and brightest in computer security into prisons and/or exporting them to China. Why bother to improve information security this side of the globe when doing just that lands you lengthy jail terms and a guaranteed conviction that bars you from ever constructively contributing to society?

When merely unlocking your phone results in a $1-million fine plus many weeks behind bars, why bother?

The political leaders in Washington currently do not care about cybersecurity of this nation, which is already worrisome enough. But to create more disincentives through repressive law regimes towards decreasing the likelihood of standing on the loser side of cyberwar?

What the hell is wrong with you?

3. You haven't read his latest posts:
So China employs criminals and we put them in jail. As a nation of laws i am not seeing the issue here. If these blackhats had any concern for western civilization they would put on a white hat and contribute to society in a positive way.

This is not the movies! black hats with any skill are in it for personal gain, creating chaos and perhaps the thrill of being bad. Asking them to fight for a concept foreign to them such as the greater good as defined by someone else is laughable at best.

Number one - and I'm sure you'll agree - there is no such thing as a "nation of laws" in this country. What laws? The DMCA, Patriot Act, Department of Homeland Security... these aren't enough proof that the upper echelons of power is ridden with criminals? We even have a president willing to bend us all over with obscure Executive Orders, completely bypassing what little judicial protections and measures that still exist.

Number two - those hacktivists are not the problem. The root cause is none of the retards at Washington DC takes cybersecurity seriously. All half-assed appearances at beginner security theater, nothing of real substantial value is done, forcing the rest of us to take matters into our own hands. Oh but we cannot do that because that act alone is a criminal felony!

Number three - is this really the message you want to advertise to China? To encourage them to continue hacking us, because we're leaving the door wide open for their e-thieving fingers, while believing there is absolutely no downside in cutting the hands that feed us?

Both you and Ammohunt are delusional.

By hero_of_zero on 2/9/2013 5:18:09 PM , Rating: 2
Executive Orders bit you mad because that the only real power your prez even has?Take that power away then what power would the elected prez have?It would turn him and or her into the queen of england.Be there for show but can't do jack.
Then you could just removed the position of prez and let your fine fine senate and your excellent highly loved congress with it super duper high approval rating fun free ...

By Simple_Man on 2/10/2013 6:28:00 PM , Rating: 2
1. Names? What names?

"because a truly skeptical position would be a very uncertain one"

RE: These sentences are ridiculous
By Ammohunt on 2/11/2013 11:07:55 AM , Rating: 2

That would be a sight to see! My neighbours are ex-Mennonite pacifist hippies good people just wrong.

RE: These sentences are ridiculous

