Lib Dems - the truth about these people

(57 Posts)
growell Tue 20-Apr-10 23:07:24

Voted on unanimously within their party a couple of years ago (was NIck Clegg an MP then?):-

"Youngsters aged 16 and 17 should have the right to watch and appear in explicit pornography, the Liberal Democrats decided yesterday" -porn-say-lib- dems-567128.html

Sorry but scum of the earth.

animula Mon 26-Apr-10 13:53:53

Surely bringing in regulations into the sex industry is about protecting potentially vulnerable people after the age of 16, 18, whatever? And that, surely, makes sense?

It's not all just about tax/raising a profit. It's about recognition that age of consent legislation isn't that effective as a means of protection, and that it is sometimes counter-productive because it suddenly cuts off people from protection the second they reach a certain age.

animula Mon 26-Apr-10 13:54:24

And, yes, it smells of blatant propaganda to me, too.

Killer3James Mon 26-Apr-10 17:59:54

I'm sorry, but, i think having Porn and Sex Shops open to 16 year old's + is perfectly acceptable.
People only use them if they feel that they want to...we have a's not as if we're being forced to watch them!
Also i think that "mumsnet" is sexist, and should be changed to "parentsnet"
I'm not trolling, so don't comment back saying that i am...
+ this is my view on the situation as a 17 year old boy.

choosyfloosy Tue 27-Apr-10 12:31:30

Killer3James i think you'll notice that every single poster agrees with you on access to porn.

I'd agree also that 'mumsnet' is sexist, it's a brand that has got stuck that way (I have a feeling that parentsnet was in use at the time it was founded, but can't remember).

Clairewilliams1973 Wed 28-Apr-10 08:07:08

I think you miss the point Killer3James....

Most have no issue at all with porn and sex shops being open to 16 year olds !! The difference is allowing 16 year olds to star in porn which leaves most people anxious.

EVERY UK childrens charity is agsinst the policy but the Lib Dems seem to think they know best...

Since this issue was posted on mumsnet I have been quoted in The Mirror, The Sun, Telegraph, Express all of which are asking questions about the Lib Dems.

WebDude Wed 28-Apr-10 09:37:55

Good grief - this is news from years ago.

Anyway, if you don't have an issue with someone watching, why is there such a big issue with the possibility of taking part?

If the original quoted line had once been a headline, it is certainly not the one on the web page now, which says "Let 16-year-olds visit sex shops and see explicit porn, say Lib Dems"

It's not a position that I see anyone encouraging and the newspaper piece quoted the spokesman as saying "it was inconsistent to allow 16-year-olds to have children, and be treated as adults in other respects, but to bar them from watching or taking part in explicit material - which they could access, anyway, from the internet."

I read that as a clear statement of fact, the way it would be interpreted by a judge, and not a suggestion that it would be encouraged, and re-reading the original statement "should have the right to watch and appear in explicit pornography", I don't see it as encouragement but, again, just giving the effect of implementation, were such a change to take place.

With the widespread availability of web cams, mobile phones, and digital cameras, I bet a big portion of under 18s (and perhaps some, under 16s too) are already "starring" in their own small way!

More than 10 years ago, while visiting friends in California, I was sharing a PC with a teenager, whose boyfriend (on the East Coast) had just sent her 8 porn clips in an e-mail. She was so embarrassed, poor thing, because I was introduced to her shortly before the download finished and she was either genuinely surprised or had to act it, because she didn't manage to stop the automatic playback of the first XXX clip...

Seems like every teenager in the USA went online straight after school (mostly on AOL). If you didn't get on then, the phone lines were engaged so they always kept the connection "busy" in case they were logged out for inactivity!

NetworkGuy Tue 04-May-10 09:46:56

I see this thread made it into The Sun !

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