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RE: Opera 10 - gets better by the release
By omnicronx on 8/14/2009 11:48:06 AM , Rating: 2
I like the speed of Opera, but there is a learning curve. The basics are easy, but many other things are not. Once you learn how to use it, it is definately a nice browser, but I still can't figure out (don't even know if you can) how to pin RSS feeds to the personal bar.

Without that I won't even think about switching browsers regardless of how fast it is. Importing my FF bookmarks was a complete pain too. FF and IE do it automatically upon start (there is absolutely no excuse for this not being the first step when you first launch the browser), I had to export my FF favorites to html and import them manually to get it to work, even then it put them in a stupid folder format which I had to fix right after. Even worse is it did not import my Opera 9 favorites, and while I know this is still beta, CMON, this is basic stuff here!

And they wonder why new users don't migrate to Opera! Its definitely not a nice experience, and for most people, if they find something they cannot do in the first few minutes they will immediately switch back. So regardless of the bunch of extra features Opera has, unless they can match current features in other browsers they will never gain considerable share.

RE: Opera 10 - gets better by the release
By William Gaatjes on 8/14/2009 11:53:12 AM , Rating: 2
As you mentioned, it is still a beta.

RE: Opera 10 - gets better by the release
By omnicronx on 8/14/2009 12:06:10 PM , Rating: 2
The problems the poster above is experiencing is probably a direct result of this project still being in beta (refined JS engine will always have kinks to work out), but if the features I named are not in Beta 3, they probably won't make it into the final revision either.

(not to mention I don't think you can do these things in 9.* either)

RE: Opera 10 - gets better by the release
By Belard on 8/14/2009 6:27:25 PM , Rating: 3
I think its not all that difficult...

FF saves book marks IN HTML.

And in a multi-user environment, it gives the user which bookmarks the user wants to import.

Oh well..

By omnicronx on 8/14/2009 7:39:52 PM , Rating: 3
Hey i had no problem exporting my bookmarks to html and manually importing them in Opera, but that really was not my point.its not a very user friendly way for someone to migrate from browser to browser.

I'm just sitting here trying to contemplate how a browser with 2% marketshare, in which their market really does not consist of new users but users migrating from other browsers does not have an import tool on first boot! IE8 does it for Firefox, and Firefox does it for IE, why on earth isnt Opera doing exactly the same thing?

I really hope this changes in the final version, but for some reason I doubt it will..

RE: Opera 10 - gets better by the release
By erple2 on 8/17/2009 3:14:03 PM , Rating: 2
Firefox since 3.x no longer saves your bookmarks as html (though they are manually exportable into an html file). They're now stored as a sqlite mini-database. It apparently solves a problem that I don't (but other people might) have. I think it has to do with if you have a significant number (I have about 50-100 and didn't notice any problems) of bookmarks/history items to scan through and display.

I believe that it has to do with the "awesome bar" integration.

By Crank the Planet on 8/17/2009 6:56:48 PM , Rating: 2
FF has been nothing but an Opera copy cat for years. Only in the last year or so have they started to innovate for themselves. I used IE back in the day- left it for Netscape because of security and I liked the interface. I stayed with them for a couple of years then heard about Opera. It was everything I wanted in a browser and more. I've been using Opera for 9 years now. It's been the best and still is. Everything is all included and it just works. It used to have the speed crown and still runs with the best of them. It is usually the most secure of all of them. Bugs are fixed most of the time before you know there is any- which I can't say for any other. I like how you can customize the whole interface from what buttons you want to see and which ones you don't to skins to everything. It's had that capability for what 5-6 years now? Most people don't like change but this one was definitely for the better.

As far as popularity- Why did Nintendo choose it above all the others? Because the rest (suck!) can't do what Opera can in such a small footprint. Do you see Chrome on Cell Phones? No. Do you see Safari on Cell Phones? Only on Apple (they have their own issues). IE? Netscape?

Get real people. Get a real browser.

