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Mike McQueary is testifying in a perjury hearing for two top PSU officials right now.

And once again, his account of what he saw Jerry Sandusky doing to a young boy in a shower in 2002 is departing a bit from what was described in the grand jury presentment.

Here are the highlights of the two-hour, 10-minute questioning, the most important stuff is in bold (via Sara Ganim of the Patriots-News, Nate Bauer of Rivals.com, and Nate Mink of StateCollege.com who were tweeting his testimony from the courtroom):

"I cannot sit here and be 100 percent sure there was intercourse," he said. "But I believe Jerry was sexually molesting him and having some type of intercourse with him."

"I did not see insertion, nor was there any verbiage, screaming or yelling."

"It appeared that Jerry was directly behind the boy and the boy had his hands up against the wall."

"I know they saw me, they looked directly in my eyes."

McQueary said that he met with Joe Paterno the next day, but did not explain exactly what he saw.

"The rough positioning I would have described, but not in very much detail," McQueary testified.

Asked if he ever used the word "sodomy," McQueary said, "No. Out of respect."

Paterno told him, "I'm sorry you had to see that."

Another big revelation: PSU AD Curley didn't call McQueary to meet with him until 9 or 10 days after the incident.

He said he described the incident to Curley and Gary Schultz as "extremely sexual."

"To be frank, I thought I was talking to the head of the police." One of the administrators he met with, Gary Schultz, was technically the administrative overseer of the campus police.

The two called him back 4 or 5 days later and said they alerted The Second Mile and asked Sandusky to stay away.

"There was never a period of time after that incident where i saw Jerry with any kids at all around our facility."

He says Paterno asked him a few months later if he was "okay."

We're now going to a cross examination.

"I'm relatively sure it was 2002, it was a Friday night before spring break." Relatively sure???

He says security cameras were installed in the building after the incident, interesting.

He says Paterno was a "role model" and a "mentor" even after 2002.

It sounds like this defense attorney is going to ask about every little insignificant detail to try and poke holes in McQ's story. He just asked how many shower heads were in the shower.

He says he never did anything to let Sandusky and the boy know he was there. But he did slam a locker shut extra loud to get their attention.

Sandusky's expression was "somewhat blank" when the two met eyes.

He never confronted Sandusky about the incident in the nine years since. Wow.

He says he got home at 10:30 p.m. that night, and his father called over a family friend named Jonathan Dranov. Dranov is the guy who allegedly testified that McQueary never told him about the specific details of the incident.

They considered calling the police, but didn't.

The meeting with Paterno the next morning lasted a whole 10 minutes. Again he says he never used the words "anal sodomy." Says he's never used the words "anal" or "rape" since day one. The grand jury presentment uses the word "anal sex" though, that's a HUGE issue.

He says he use the words "fondling" and didn't tell Paterno the details of what he saw because, "You don't go to Coach Paterno with great details of sexual acts."

He can't remember if he told anyone about the incident between when it happened and when he had a meeting with Curley. But he has definitely told people since then, he says.

"Sitting next to Curley in the meeting, that was the police in my mind."

McQueary says he left the boy in the shower with Sandusky, "I was sure the act was over."

He says he tried to avoid Sandusky "without a doubt" after the incident.