Comments on: How to tell parents you're not ever coming home? Comments on Ask MetaFilter post How to tell parents you're not ever coming home? Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:22:03 -0800 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:29:51 -0800 en-us 60 Question: How to tell parents you're not ever coming home? How does one tell dysfunctional parents that you're not planning on ever coming home after being away for a work contract (i.e. a supposedly temporary absence is going to turn permanent)? <br /><br /> The situation is this. One parent is truly toxic. I've worked out damned if I do and damned if I don't with this one, so whatever. The other is co-dependent on the toxic one (and me and my brother to a lesser degree) so in that sense is dysfunctional.<br> <br> How can I tell the co-dependent parent that no, I'm travelling permanently when not other working, and then how I can tell both of them diplomatically so that the toxic one doesn't chuck all the stuff in my room out? (there's really only one bag of souvenirs from my various contracts that I want to keep, but I suspect it'll be the first one to be targeted if I don't tell them right).<br> <br> Should I be honest and state I'm travelling and not coming home, or should I just lie that I'm finding work continuously, or be vague about whether I'm exactly travelling or working at a particular point in time, or even something else?,2012:site.227390 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:22:03 -0800 glache parents moving travel By: qxntpqbbbqxl Get your brother, or someone else with on-site access, to rescue your possessions from your room before you drop the bomb. You can't burn a bridge and still use it as a storage locker.,2012:site.227390-3290294 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:29:51 -0800 qxntpqbbbqxl By: leahwrenn So...presumably, you need to find yourself a storage unit for your stuff, and go home at least once more to get it. You can't say you're never coming home but keep all my stuff, thanks.,2012:site.227390-3290295 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:30:14 -0800 leahwrenn By: scody This reads as if you intend to never come home again, but that there are things that belong to you that you want to keep in your old room indefinitely. Can you clarify? Because I think if you really do want to be able to move to a situation with no in-person contact (or perhaps no-contact entirely), you first need to make some sort of clear plan as to how you're going to take responsibility for your own possessions.,2012:site.227390-3290296 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:30:27 -0800 scody By: tilde Tell them after you've moved your stuff into storage away from their ability to be near it.<br> <br> Come back for one visit to do this, then start travelling after that.,2012:site.227390-3290297 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:30:39 -0800 tilde By: ambrosia Can you ask your brother to get your stuff and keep it for you in a safe place? <br> <br> You are asking both how to do this and whether you should. Until and unless you determine that yes, you want to tell them, I think you can leave it a bit vague. <br> <br> It's too bad English doesn't have a word for "not yet" or "not now.",2012:site.227390-3290299 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:31:06 -0800 ambrosia By: futureisunwritten You are in control now. Disclose only as much information to them as you see fit. You're an adult who doesn't need to justify anything to anyone, not even your own parents. <br> <br> On preview, qxntpqbbbqxl's explanation sounds like the best hope for getting your stuff back.,2012:site.227390-3290301 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:31:47 -0800 futureisunwritten By: emjaybee Don't put it as "not ever." Say "I found a great situation that's good for me, and I'm going to do that. I'll keep in touch with you guys."<br> <br> If they ask when you are going to come home, just say you don't know; you're going to pursue these great opportunities and see how they go.<br> <br> If you are an adult (?) then moving out was going to happen sooner or later. <br> <br> And if a sibling or trusted friend can go over and get your stuff for you, have them do so. <br> <br> But if a bag of souvenirs is the price of your freedom, it could be worse. <br> <br> Be prepared for them to be unreasonable no matter what you do, and just get it over with.,2012:site.227390-3290303 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:32:01 -0800 emjaybee By: small_ruminant What emjaybee said. Don't tell them. Just keep coming up with reasons why it won't be now, or next month, or the next 3 months.,2012:site.227390-3290305 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:33:47 -0800 small_ruminant By: Rock Steady "Hey, Mom. My friend X is going to come by this weekend to pick up a box of stuff from my room. Yeah, I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but she needs it for reasons."<br> <br> Then you can tell them everything or nothing at all about your future plans.,2012:site.227390-3290308 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:34:51 -0800 Rock Steady By: Sara C. I'm confused about what the actual situation here is. <br> <br> So you're currently working away from home, and you've made the decision the decision not to return home at the end of the gig? Or maybe you've been offered a permanent contract?<br> <br> Bottom line, regardless of what your parents are like, is that unless you're sixteen years old, this is a normal thing. It shouldn't need to be something you have to brace yourself for. Most people eventually grow up and move away from their parents' house.<br> <br> Yes, it sounds like your parents might freak. It might be hard for you to hear. You need to stay strong and stick to your guns. Not physically being there will probably make it easier. <br> <br> The only thing you can really control is saving your stuff. You mention a brother - can you have him grab that one important bag before you fill your parents in? <br> <br> In terms of your last paragraph, I'm a strong proponent of not filling parents in overmuch about the day to day when you first strike out on your own. Because, yes, people have highs and lows and good days and setbacks, and if you tell your parents every little thing, they will find excuses to shut you down or "come to the rescue". I don't think you should explicitly lie, but there's nothing wrong with letting them have an understanding of the situation that is a little bit more optimistic or that would make life easier for everyone concerned.,2012:site.227390-3290311 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:36:00 -0800 Sara C. By: Citrus Consider also the possibility that the things you've left at the house aren't necessarily so important.,2012:site.227390-3290314 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:39:37 -0800 Citrus By: easily confused Yeah, just to second everyone else: you can't have it both ways. Either you <strong><em>do</em></strong> live there, in which case your stuff is in your room, or you do <strong><em>not</em></strong> live there, in which case you're using someone else's house as a storage unit.<br> <br> It doesn't matter if it's your parents, or the codependancy or whatever: it's an either/or situation.... you live <strong><em>there</em></strong>, or you (and your stuff) live <strong><em>somewhere else.</em></strong>,2012:site.227390-3290318 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:44:01 -0800 easily confused By: Flood Never burn a bridge unless it is unavoidable.<br> Do what you have to do, and try to preserve the relationship as best as you can.,2012:site.227390-3290362 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:11:32 -0800 Flood By: smalls Completely agree with emjaybee's option. You want the lowest-drama option here, and this seems to be it.,2012:site.227390-3290531 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:28:10 -0800 smalls By: EvaDestruction Be vague. It sounds like the only purpose of being specific would be to hurt your parents. Which maybe they have earned, I don't know, but it doesn't help you out right now. <br> <br> If you can manage it, coming home long enough to get your stuff out of their house would support the illusion that you have some kind of long-term employment that will keep you overseas for an unknown period of time.,2012:site.227390-3290541 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:43:27 -0800 EvaDestruction By: thermonuclear.jive.turkey Aside from getting your things out, why not just ultimately tell them that you've moved out from the home and are now an independent adult? If you are an adult, is there any need to be passive-aggressive about it? If they freak out, tell them you'll talk again when they're calmer and hang up the phone.,2012:site.227390-3290622 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:12:35 -0800 thermonuclear.jive.turkey By: Cracky What emjaybee said. Exactly.<br> <br> This is what I did for two years with my toxic parent, until I could get all the legal/financial stuff in order to fully cut contact. It works pretty well, especially if (when you do have phone/email contact) you emphasize how busy you are pursuing all these <em>amazing</em> opportunities.<br> <br> I'm sorry- this situation sounds pretty shitty. Memail me if you'd like to talk more.,2012:site.227390-3290795 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:03:45 -0800 Cracky By: fraula Nthing emjaybee too; it's essentially what I did with my parents, whose summary would be basically identical to yours.<br> <br> Please, please get someone to rescue any souvenirs you feel attached to. As far as I know, I have lost all of my childhood diaries, family photos, childhood photos (save about a dozen I rescued before leaving), and yearbooks, notes and cards signed by dear friends. I had asked for them over the years, before cutting off the relationship with my parents, but never got a thing. It is something I'll regret for a very long time, especially photos of loved ones who have since died and whom I'll never see again.,2012:site.227390-3290993 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:58:19 -0800 fraula By: glache Thanks everyone for the amazing responses. My brother would not be able to rescue my stuff because the parent concerned has no sense of privacy--they raid all his stuff and I can't make him be responsible for mine. It's literally just one backpack of stuff--everything else that is valuable (e.g. textbooks) I have online access to or can just buy hard copies. All of the above plans of action are good so that is what I would do. I'll remain vague, but if it gets nasty and they press for more definite plans I will simply go back and retrieve that bag of stuff and put it into storage. I only wish I could remove my brother and put him into storage with friends because yeah the toxicity is just unbelievable (he's 17 and has one more year of school to go). Thanks everyone!,2012:site.227390-3292123 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:59:05 -0800 glache By: Sara C. Can your brother rent a storage unit on your behalf? Or, hell, on both of your behalves? (Not sure that is a word, ha.) It might be possible for him to do at 17, or he could enlist the help of an 18 year old friend. That's something that sounds like it would be a net benefit for both of you.<br> <br> Also, re it getting nasty and them pressing for more definite plans, never underestimate the power of just not returning their calls. The great thing about being away from the presence of toxic parents is that you're away from their presence. They have no power over you. You have the freedom to speak to them or not, comply with their wishes or not, and tell them whatever works for the circumstances.<br> <br> I was lucky that my "toxic family" situation manifested itself in my parents not giving much of a shit rather than giving too much of a shit, but if you need advice or moral support, feel free to MeMail me.,2012:site.227390-3292184 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:27:17 -0800 Sara C.