GamePolitics - Comments for "ESA Part of Group Seeking to Blacklist Canada" Comments for "ESA Part of Group Seeking to Blacklist Canada" en I just find this laughable... the US industries slag the WTO whenever it rules against them but love them when it has a teeny prayer to impose its will on someone else... bloody hypocrites Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:36:35 +0000 Xveers comment 16306 at [...] A similar report from the ESA was released in February, 2007 (see: ESA Part of Group Seeking to Blacklist Canada). [...] Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:58:36 +0000 ESA Wants Govt Help Against Canada, Others by Game Piracy | comment 16305 at Worse than the idea of "Blaming Canada"...<br /> <br /> Why do people do these things is beyond me! Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:25:49 +0000 Radical Edward comment 16304 at You know, I have no issue with a company wanting to protect it's product. I do have issues with a company wanting to make me PAY for the same product 4 times. <br /> <br /> That being said, I have always held the idea that, one of the ways the ESA could cut down on Piracy was to have game consoles be compatable with games from ALL regions. Many of the so called "Pirates" are not pirates at all but people forced to mod there system to play games from Other markets. I am a great example. I modded my PS1 to play games from japan, same for my PS2, and my PC Is setup for the same thing. Why? Not cause I pirate games, but cause I wanted to play certain games from overseas that my American system couldn't play. So ,I don't thinks it's fair that i'd have to buy 2 versions of the same system just to play games.<br /> <br /> If they would drop region encoding in place of some actual form of copy protection, among other things, a lot of piracy they claim is happening would just stop. Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:33:58 +0000 Yuki comment 16259 at the name of the RIAA equivalent up here is CRIA, Canadian Recording Industry Association, and they're just as annoying as the RIAA, only they get shut down in the courts alot (thankfully). If this happens I could see Bioware, Relic, Ubisoft and a few other studios delaying game titles to the US, seems fair really. I have nothing against the US people, most of my friends are americans, but US government is really screwed up. I still say that the RIAA missed the whole thing about innocent until proven guilty. with them it's guilty until you prove your innocence. I hope the ESA doesn't go this way, the RIAA has caused more trouble for artists than it has helped them. As for making copies of movies up here, my friend has a 2 and 4 year old, he buys a DVD and makes a copy simply because the kids usually destroy DVDs with finger prints and scratching the discs. Doesn't make him a pirate, just makes him someone who doesn't want to pay 30 bucks for another copy of a DVD he's already bought once. Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:02:22 +0000 BinaryGeek comment 16260 at Hmmm... Well, the ESA might want to be having a long talk with the RIAA...<br /> <br /> <a href="" title=""></a> Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:08:30 +0000 GoodRobotUs comment 16261 at I forgot to add this, but I'd like to share a story that I think is an argument that can be used in terms of whats good about video games and how families can use video games to bring them together instead of alienating their children and making them out to be violent murderers.<br /> <br /> I was flying Battlefield 2 one day and I was running to get to a plan (Kubra Dam US side in case you're wondering) and there were two guys there with a similar name with the same clan tag. The only difference in their names was Sr and Jr..but because the names were weird to begin with I didn't figure out what it meant. But to make things easier lets call them JohnnyJR and JohnnySR<br /> <br /> Anyways I go to grab the plan [I'm in the same squad as them so we have voice contact], but the JohnnySR gets in and I stop to allow JohnnyJR to get in because they are clan mates and whatnot. <br /> <br /> He tells me on voice chat its ok I can get and asks do I want to pilot or co-pilot and I say how come hes called me to get in the plan and he says "My son is afk, hes eating dinner."<br /> <br /> I finally figure out what the JR and SR meant and I'm just flabbergasted....and I astonishingly ask "You play games with your son" and he answers "Yea my daughter plays with us too shes just not on" ...I'm still in shock of course because since I discovered gaming as a kid I wanted nothing more then my dad to play with me. <br /> <br /> Of course he developed a disdain or even hate for all things gaming and computer because he saw me spending so much time on it instead of "socializing" or playing some sport and him playing games would be impossible.<br /> <br /> Then of course I tell the guy in the plane that I'm really jeleous and that his kids are very lucky. He tells me that he's divorced and games allow him to bond with his children. So even though he's not the primary caregiver the bonds with his children and him are stronger then them with their mother. They even started a family clan.<br /> <br /> I ask how old he is because I'm thinking hes like a young father, 25 and he says 40.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The point of the story is that games can do a lot more good then you'd expect, and if some parents were wiling to put their own prejudices aside and taking interest in what their kids are interested in, and take interest in their kids lives they could be a lot closer to their children then you could ever expect. Kids/Teens would communicate with their parents easily and would confide in them if they shared and experienced some common interests on a regular basis.<br /> <br /> But in todays world parents often look for the easy answer, a scapegoat, something convenient to explain why their children are so distant from them and why they can't relate with their children and politicians abuse that and only end up drawing lines in the sand that further separate parents from their children, instead of bringing them together. Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:26:42 +0000 Vincent comment 16301 at The funny thing is our musicians and other artists have stood up and are fighting the group (I forget whats its called I think its the Canadian version of the RIAA or MPAA), that group is trying to change copyright laws in terms of downloading and p2p and artists are fighting that group. <br /> <br /> Because downloading has brought many unknown artists with true talent into the limelight and artists are seeing that publishers and big studios are useless because they can produce and sell their music by themselves with the use of p2p, and the internet in general.<br /> <br /> So yea our artists rock cuz they are fighting to keep p2p sharing and all that.<br /> <br /> <br /> Truly in a couple of years even the CD will become obselete and all the big studios and recording companies will crash and burn into the ground because they cannot compete. It's cheaper for an artist to distribute their music by themselves. In the past before internet you needed someone to distribute your music and market it and advertise it, that is quickly becoming useless.<br /> <br /> <br /> So the music industry is just fighting a losing battle. The television industry is going through a similar downfall. People especially those of the younger demographic are turning away from TV in mass numbers and getting their media and entertainment content from the web. <br /> <br /> <br /> Why do you think there is so many American Idol-like reality shows, they serve the aging baby boomers. These shows put the old age groups in positions of authority [judges] and the younger people below them. A characteristic that appeals to baby boomers. A great example of a show for that is that new one about Grease.<br /> <br /> Nobody from the younger generation was old enough to have seen Grease when it came out, although I suspect many of us have seen it at one time or another. But it's just a movie to us and doesn't mean the same thing it meant to people who were teens when they saw it.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I read an interesting article (or part of it) about all that I mentioned above and about the three generations the Baby Boomers, Generation X, and Generation Y [current 18-29] generation.<br /> <br /> The Baby Boomers which are constitute the majority of politicians grew up without video games and there fore video games are uncomfortable with them. It is a rarity to find a baby boomer that actively plays games.<br /> <br /> Then theres the Gen X ers, they were in their 20s when gaming started picking up, so even though theres more of them playing video games now its still a small amount because they didn't grow up with them.<br /> <br /> Then there is us the Gen Y's, we grew up around games, born in the the 80's and 90s, we saw the evolution of games and have included them as part of our lives. We are comfortable with them.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The point of stating the obvious above, is to predict when games will not be seen as contraband or something evil but as art and entertainment.<br /> <br /> First all the pro-gaming organization's such as the ECA will have the toughest fights in the war with the current baby-boomer generation of politicians although this generation is decreasing in political presence. Then they will have to fight the Gen X'ers for quite a long time, until the current generation starts to get a sizable force of representatives in politics and final when the Gen X'ers are also gone.<br /> <br /> Then we can finally start to enjoy a golden age in new media, and gaming. But by then the Generation Z [which are currently children and preteens] will probably have some new and radical form of entertainment which we will look down upon and call it immoral and a bad influence on children....and basically perpetuate the cycle.<br /> <br /> Oh well. Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:08:43 +0000 Vincent comment 16300 at The ESA is already the new RIAA they see no use for moding or backing up hat you buy,and they certainly see no need for you to return a poorly made game.<br /> <br /> Region coding,hacked in a day multi million dollar copy protection,degrading personal use/user rights and ownership into a vague rental plan no wonder they are not called the media mafia,sadly videos games have become a part of Hollywood,I will do as I have always done check out a game first if I like it I will by it but at the rate games devolving theres less a need to buy games...<br /> <br /> perhaps instead of forcing the government to let corporations abuse its citsens they should put more effort into the product they sale and cut back on propaganda and copy protection in order adjust the REAL loss of money and put that money into develop better games and media... Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:12:34 +0000 ZippyDSMlee comment 16303 at *snorts* BS.<br /> <br /> As Jabr said, Mod-Chips in themselves are not illegal, fact is, if I had the money, I'd do it to my PS2 at least. Why? The games I own would load up faster and the visuals would be sharper. And that means a plus when dealing with some of the older games or massive RPG's on one disc.<br /> <br /> You see it on every movie that has that FBI warning, take away the copy part and you basically have the Canadian edition. Back-ups aren't illegal if you own the original. Distributing past that part without permission on the other-hand is.<br /> <br /> Then again, I also believe Region Encoding is bullshit as well.<br /> <br /> In the end though, even if they did make it illegal, they're going to catch not even 1% of the people that do pirate.<br /> <br /> I'll admit, I download music and anime and such. But where else am I going to find it outside of paying between 10-50 bucks for a CD/DVD and upwards to 300 for a full season of something? It's the same thing as console gaming. If you can't find it anywhere, what else are you gonna do? Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:42:30 +0000 Kadamon comment 16302 at