View Full Version : fake quote about mlk and bin laden pops up overnight

May 3rd, 2011, 03:47 PM
the internet is a great place for fake quotes. i have heard this quote for the first time yesternday. and i have asked EVERY time i heard for information about it. because i can think of ZERO point in MLKs lifetime where he would have been compelled to say anything anywhere near that. the closest i can come to it is in reaction to be malcolm x's reaction to the death of JFK but thats not right for obvious reasons. so then when and where is this quote from?

a google search for this quote that excludes bin laden 9/11 or anything to do with the that yields only a few sites... all of which talk about bin laden. this then leads me to believe this is a fake quote for people who want to shut down the (i think valid) debate about whether it is proper to feel joy at the death of a monster. this then reminds me that on 9/11 a fake qoute about Nostradamus was born where he 100% predicted 9/11, except that the quote was written after and not before. so long story short. you heard it here first. the quote is likely a fake.






Osama Bin Laden



May 3rd, 2011, 03:51 PM
from wikipedia

World Trade Center prophecy hoax

Shortly after the September 11 attacks on New York's World Trade Center, the following spoof text was circulated on the Internet, along with many more elaborate variants (one of them signed 'Nostradamus 1654' – when he would have been 150 years old):

In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,
while the fortress endures,
the great leader will succumb,
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning

As it turns out, the first four lines were indeed written before the attacks, but by a Canadian graduate student named Neil Marshall as part of a research paper in 1997. The research paper included this poem as an illustrative example of how the validity of prophecies is often exaggerated. For example, the phrases "City of God" (New York has never held the title of "City of Angels"), "great thunder" (this could apply to many disasters), "Two brothers" (many things come in pairs), and "the great leader will succumb" are so ambiguous as to be meaningless. The fifth line was added by an anonymous Internet user, completely ignoring the fact that Nostradamus wrote his Propheties in rhymed four-line decasyllables called quatrains. Nostradamus also never referred to a "third big war".[13]

May 4th, 2011, 03:09 AM
Not fake, per se, but mashed up/altered. See explanation here: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/05/03/quotes.twain.mlk/?hpt=T2

My friend, a former archivist of the MLK papers, provides the following as MLK's actual passage:
Through violence you may murder a murderer, but you can't murder murder. Through violence you may murder a liar, but you can't establish truth. Through violence you may murder a hater, but you can't murder hate through violence. Darkness cannot put out darkness; only light can do that.

May 4th, 2011, 04:57 AM
Not fake, per se, but mashed up/altered.

Mlk never said those word in that order. Ergo, it's fake.

The passage you quote is radically different than the fact quote. I think it's really a problem because you are basically making up history. You can't just make stuff up and say mlk said this. When he didn't. Particularly when the quote is made up to silence debate.