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Testicual cancer here we come!!!

In essence, the success of the 9/11 hijackers can be summarized as their ability to exploit 2 key vulnerabilities.

# 1.
the prevailing belief was that hijackers were not suicidal, but wanted to make a political statement and/or gain a ransom and make their escape/be granted asylum. This had been our experience over decades of hijacking attempts.
Any passenger who found themselves aboard a hijacked flight knew that although the experience would be frightening and excruciating, the proper approach was to remain calm and non-confrontational.

the airlines had avoided the expense of installing reinforced cockpit doors on all of their aircraft.

That is it. That is about all you need to know about preventing a 9/11 type hijacking.

Vulnerability #1 ceased to exist after news of the planes hitting the Twin Towers was made public. United Flight 93 is the example that shows vulnerability #1 used on 9/11 also went out of existence later that same day.

Vulnerability #2 is the reinforced cockpit doors.
After watching billions of dollars spent on airline security over the last 9 years, a passenger would assume that some of that money went towards all planes having the reinforcements for the cockpit door.

The airlines or the FAA would be the place to inquire for an accurate answer to that question.

I was asked by a TSA idiot if someone has put something in my luggage without my knowledge? I said do you know what you just asked me? If someone did then how would I know? Then she asked me to hand her my wallet. I said this is not going to happen and to get a supervisor. She then said she was kidding and I said I was not and to get a supervisor. When the supervisor showed up I told him what happened and 2 other passengers behind me told the supervisor the same thing. He said it was all a misundrstanding. I think not and she saw me check my money before I got in line and I had $2200 cash. She was going to rip me off. The TSA is all a bunch of BS to make all of you sheep feel good about flying and think your safe. Well guess what, it is all a big dog and pony show. Wake up Americans. I would complain to your congressman/women everyday until they dumped the TSA crap.

The terrorists have finally won. Our rights and liberties have been trampled on. It's time to finally stop the intrusion on our rights.

Until a machine can detect an explosive hidden inside a body cavity, the use of these types of machines is pointless. Instead of hiding explosives in underwear, terrorists will simply put them inside their bodies. It doesn't take a lot of C4 to blow a hole in a plane. These types of security precautions seemed designed at making travelers feel safe while providing no actual security.

I recall reading somewhere that ex-Homeland Security Department Secretary Michael Chertoff is involved with the company we now pay billions of dollars to provide body-scanning machines for our airports.

Is this true?

If so, where can more details be found?

The airport screening procedures are the implementation of "martial law" in the US. After November 14 the average person in the US will not be able to freely fly on commercial airlines. If she goes through the X-ray machines, his life will be shortened by up to a year for each trip through. These machines are the equivalent of the "showers" that the Jews are given upon arrival at some of the concentration camps for their safety; instead of cyanide gas, the machines will give doses of X-rays that will prove to be lethal for frequent flyers. In other words, population reduction, just like spraying Corexit on the population of the Gulf Coast. If she refuses, she will be brutally groped by agents who have been trained to inflict pain and humiliation.

This idiot blogger is just looking for his "12 minutes" of fame, and he is dangerous and hostile. His language and approach could be used, quite simply, by folks that want to bring a plane down to help destroy it: anyone on that flight will regret sympathizing with this moron!He asked for, he got it, he is part of the problem w/the airlines, and flying IS NOT A RIGHT!!!

OK ... have a challenge for those who dont like screening. Perhaps we should have duplicate flights, one for those who are willing to be screened and one for those who refuse it. Which flight are you going to want to be on?

I have to laugh at the idiots who complain about government because it has not foreseen every unpleasant incident that may have happened in our history. You folks need to get a grip. If you think you are perfect, then run for office and give us all the benefit of your perfection. Otherwise you can all shut up.

There is much in need of improvement in this country, from airport screening to anything else you might care to add to the list. The solution is not to dump the process, it is to improve it. We all hate the police ... until we need a policeman.

Why wasn't this man sent through the metal detector like everyone else?

This went viral why? It's 11:15 minutes too long.

It's become a nightmare to fly - stressful and hectic - too many rules and about every other security officer either swaggers or is nasty. Now the airlines want to charge for baggage - the seats are too close together. Too much time waiting at the airport - too much of a hassle separating out liquids before you go - you can spend half a day just preparing to get on the plane. NOW TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY - WHOLE BODY SCANS!! I wouldn't mind so much if they could also be medically diagnostic, but just to see my thong?? TIME TO CHECK OUT THE TRAIN AND BUS SCHEDULES - WOULDN'T HURT ANY OF US TO SLOW DOWN!!!

Tell him to walk!

tsa harrassment of passengers is a joke as all the unscreened unsuspected bombs are hauled into the under belly of planes by airport baggage handlers. how many terrorists has tsa stopped with their security measures? none.

he says govt hasnt stopped a terrorist yet but when they enact meaures that may stop them, he refuses them. what an idiot.

Why is everyone cheering this guy on for what he did?

How about the liberty of those who choose to follow the rules, and not be delayed by somebody who disagrees???

Would all of you be so supportive if you were waiting in that line?

How many times have our lives and liberty been trampled on by self-proclaimed, righteous people who insist they are right and being oppressed?

While the government does a lot of things I hate, the thing I hate more is people who don't follow the rules when everyone else does.

So all of you people encouraging this guy, do you really want people acting like this and potentially mucking up your life and plans?

Flying is a privilege, not a right, so stop quoting the Constitution. You right is a choice - submit to the search or leave. It's up to you. If you must fly, you can also rent a private plane and pilot to get you to your destination.

I'm not making any determination as to whether or not the current search procedures are correct, only that you don't have the right to refuse the search. Your right is, and always has been, to turn around and walk out the front door of the terminal.

I don't agree with what this guy did, or how he went about it.

Did you think about how many people you delayed boarding, both at TSA and the American Airlines counter?

We live in a Democracy, where if we don't like the rules, there is a process to change them. What if we all chose which laws/rules we followed or didn't follow? There would be no law and order. That's when all of our liberties are in jeopardy.

Nobody likes to "roll over and take it" from the government. But this guy's "standing up" for what he believed in negatively impacted everyone in line at TSA and American Airlines. Even if some agreed with what he did, he certainly didn't determine whether a majority wanted to be delayed, and he wasn't elected to speak for them--and isn't that what we do in a Democracy?

I don't think we want an America where everyone just does what they believe is right, in total disregard of everyone else following the rules. What someone else believes is right, you may not...even when they have supporters cheering them on, and supporting their actions, like he does in this situation.

You certainly wouldn't want other private citizens imposing on you what they think is right outside of the Democratic process to change laws, would you?

Our great country is a Democracy, with rules/laws and a process to change them. We may not agree with all the rules, but it's better than any other country's system.

And I don't want a country where anybody can choose which laws they obey or disobey, and act in the way this guy did to express his disagreement with the rules. I hope he is severely punished, and we should not be enrouraging this type of behavior!

While I understand that flying is a privilege not a right, insisting that a person submit to doses of radiation in order to get on a plane or be subject to having every part of your body touched it over the line. What about those people that must travel for their jobs? If you're on a plane multiple times every week, it is incredibly dangerous to be subjected to repeated and frequent zaps of radiation. Not to mention the humiliation of being seen naked by whomever is anywhere near the screen for the machine. This entire process has gotten completely out of control. In my opinion, we are very few steps from being divided up into lines by gender, forced to strip down, and have every inch of us inspected before being allowed to fly. Where does it end? If our options now are having (what basically amount to) naked pictures taken of us or being touched in all of our personal places by a complete stranger (with god knows what qualifications) just where exactly does it end? Are we really so brainwashed that we're buying this is our only option to be "safe"? 10 years ago we would have been screaming in protest at this kind of action. Now, we just accept it. Well, its still wrong. Privilege or not.

Seems to me like someone needs to explain to him the difference between your "rights" and following the rules.

The REAL issue here is whether or not TSA is going above and beyond the ACCEPTABLE. Apparently, there are many "Americans" who have an extremely high tolerance for someone intruding on their privacy and civil liberties in the name of 'SAFETY'. I for one travel a lot, because i have to (and i live in a place where flying is the only way to get anywhere). I am tired of ignorant, uneducated Americans saying they are ok with these idiotic safety measures. It is all a dog and pony show folks. The illusion of safety does not equal safety.

I know several TSA agents and they are not "trained professionals" as some of you have stated. They are generally people with nothing much in their lives and are put in a position of authority and abuse it as such, similar to some police officers, managers, etc.

Some food for thought: To all those who keep saying it is a privelage not a right, you should leave this country ASAP. Our Founding Fathers fought and died for their beliefs and they believed they had the RIGHT to certain liberties. They went against the grain and fought for what all of you take for granted so readily. Because you think someone is "whining" does not make them unAmerican, only someone who does not understand what america is would say that. Remember, Super patriotism is the way to fascism and nazism. Everyone wants to be patriotic, but giving in to everythiong the government dictates is not patriotic...it is idiotic. We are a government created by the people for the people. Not to harrass and alienate the people.

And also to all the people calling this guy an idiot and saying you don't want him on your plane, remember he chose NOT TO FLY. And i wouldn't want to sit next to all of cattle, because the truth is you cannot even stand up for what is right, so what makes you think you would risk your life to subdue a terrorist in the air??

Another thing, all of you who submit to anything TSA (gov't) rolls out as a "safety" or "security" measure have all allowed "terror-ists" to scare you into submission.

I will never fly,THEY WILL NEVER TOUCH ME, The 9/11 was a goverment inside job to begain with and I truly belive it , I dont unstand why the Muslims dont get to get the full-body scan they are the ones that was acused of the crashing our plans into the twin towers to begain with,
Obama needs to get out of the white house the Repub, need to do a FULL investigation check him out 100% and if he's illegal send him to jail along with his wife for knowing about it and let DSS have his kids, and the puppit masters need to go to jail, This is not Ameican way, This is how I feel and so many others in OUR country,

Since when is flying a right? Come on people, there is nothing in the constitution that grants you any right to fly freely. The best thing you can do is not to fly. This circus act stuff, and these comments clearly show how stupid Americans have become. You wonder why Other countries think we are a joke. Grow up please...

1. You can choose your doctor and your tailor. You can't choose your TSA agent. If you feel your doctor is acting in an unprofessional manner you are well within your rights to suit up and walk out with no negative ramifications. You can refuse the cup-and-cough if you want. You can refuse a mammogram and say no to X-rays. You can ask your tailor to eyeball it. However, when you say no to a TSA agent touching your junk they will harass you and threaten to fine you. There's something wrong here.

2. Have you read every contract you've ever "signed" start-to-finish and then looked up all the legal ramifications before signing it? Have you read every US law, every other countries laws (since they interact with our laws in interesting ways) and gone through lifetimes of study to begin to understand it all? (Top lawyers specialize in a single miniscule portion of our law code.) Or did you just assume common sense was good enough most of the time? Common sense says that if someone wants to touch my junk I can say no without ill effect until they arrest me or get a court order stating otherwise.

I believe that some security personnel abuse their power of position and torture people, because they enjoy doing that. My recent experience with security staff at the Munich airport, which claims to be the best European airport, was typical example of violation of the passenger rights. Namely, after harassment they confiscated mini bottles of perfumes I bought on the plane as a gift for my 12 years old daughter and evidently enjoyed doing that in front of her standing beside me. The arrogant “security” man said that 5 x 5 ml mini bottles (i.e. 25 ml in total) exceed the capacity of 1000 ml security bag and that Air Canada is not selling items on the plane in accordance to the security regulations! My assumption is that they did this because I had a typical Niagara Falls tourist T-shirt, which was, for some reasons, too provocative for these guys. Complains to several instances, even to the Bavarian authorities, were without success. So how could we resist the terror of such malfunctioning security when you cannot even complain?

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