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A D&D 4e thief with "Surprising Charge" (+1[W] damage on a charge against someone with CA) and "Cunning Stalker" (grants CA on any isolated enemy) does astonishing amounts of damage on a charge.

There are a significant number of druid feats which enhance charge attacks. How can a thief with druid multiclass take advantage of these feats? Furthermore, how can a thief make the most use of wildshape restrictions on "weapon attacks" when the MBA itself is a weapon attack?

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They can.

A half-elf Thief multiclassed Druid (Initiate of the Old Faith feat, grants Wild Shape) with Dilettante + Versatile Master feat for an at-will MBA Beast Form power (Grasping Claws, Savage Rend) can do it easily. Pounce is an option for purely charging, but usually, the other two are better.

If you want to dump Wisdom, you can take the Vampire's Vampire Slam at-will power through Dilettante, and give it the Beast Form keyword with the Wild Dilettante feat. Alternatively, you can take the Druid at-will with the Adept Dilettante feat to change the ability score it uses (Wisdom) to Constitution or Charisma.

Revenants with Half-Elf Soul can do it as well, and their stats match up better for a Thief. However, it takes up another feat slot and you lose Human and Elf feat support. Paragon Multiclassing is an alternative for other races, but it restricts you to the Druid multiclass.

I would suggest taking the Sneaky Staff feat to make use of Sneak Attack and Weapon Finesse bonuses. Clarification, as pointed out: Sneaky Staff wouldn't work in beast form.

Claw Gloves will add more damage.

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Good answer, lurker. (Don't you mean wild Dilettante to grant beast form keyword) Glad to have another charoper on the site. –  Brian Ballsun-Stanton Feb 24 '12 at 3:40
I'd love to see your take on the Party of Warlocks question –  Brian Ballsun-Stanton Feb 24 '12 at 3:43
Point of order, how do you get a weapon attack in there to work with sneaky staff or how do you get a druid MC to use a dagger impelement? –  Brian Ballsun-Stanton Feb 24 '12 at 4:11
Arcane Trickster is a paragon path that gives a rogue proficiency with a dagger implement. Sneaky Staff wouldn't work in beast form. I haven't heard about this party of warlocks, however. –  Charop Lurker Feb 24 '12 at 6:04
Oooh, arcane trickster. Cool. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/12496/… –  Brian Ballsun-Stanton Feb 24 '12 at 14:45
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They cannot.

PHB2 page 184 -

A feat that has a class as a prerequisite is available only to members of that class, including characters who have joined the class through a class specific multiclass feat. As long as your character is multiclass in Druid and meets all the requirements of a given feat you can take it.

As for the wild shape, once you shift into a wild shape it clearly states (PHB2 page 84) that you cannot use weapons only implement powers and properties. Remember that you drop anything you where holding when you shift. There is a limit on attack, utility and feats also. Only those with beast as a key word.

Book Quote:


The druid enhancements would still affect the MBA of the wildshape but not the weapons previously held, because these would have been dropped during the shift to the wild shape and so would not apply.

Additionally the examples of Surprising Charge and Cunning Stalker and others like them would be invalid a part of the attack because they don't have beast in their key word list.

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However, that doesn't resolve the problem of wildshape's interaction with a melee basic attack. –  Brian Ballsun-Stanton Jan 11 '11 at 14:45
oops. somehow I missed that part of the question. Will edit. –  Acedrummer_CLB Jan 11 '11 at 14:51
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