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arsenal57#524248 writes:

in response to SLCINO:

You don't make much sense here. Lots of quotes out of context, but still no proof of God. I do agree with Hawking (assuming he really said that), who refutes what I think you believe.

"it is perfectly REASONABLE to believe that we came from nothing,by nothing and for nothing"

I can't source that quote, though. If you're not afraid your benevolent, loving Sky Fairy will strike you down or cause your computer to burst into flames, see this:

By the way, my point -- you never get the point -- was that you accept science only when it suits you. There's no reason the universe has to have a reason. Your primitive ego demands you invent a reason, to validate your existence. End of story.

You mean your religion of humanism? Prove your religion is true. I accept science,when it is done correctly. What I just quoted is NOT science,but CONJECTURE with no answers.What does your RELIGION believe? You claim it's the absence of religion,however you did not address ONE point of my quote that it is RELIGION. We all BELIEVE in something. Do yourself a favor and research ALL of my quotes. They are factual,period. I am quite familiar of humanism(I used to be one), and the humanist religion teaches certain values and has a belief system. Everyone from Huxley to Kurtz calls it a religion. It's inescapable. Prove your religion is true(again I ask). Science,done correctly can't prove that God doesn't exist. Any reputable philosopher or scientist could never say that God doesn't exist. That would be intellectual your case, your dead in the water(so to speak). Your assertion that I only believe science when it suits me is laughable,because there is absolutely nothing in my christian belief that contradicts science. As the great cosmologist Allan Rex Sandage once famously said," science can bring us to the first event,but never to the first cause. Ask yourself why many of the world's greatest SCIENTIST'S believe in a Creator? Is it because of their science? Hardly. End of story.
