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RE: One never ever knows.
By Treckin on 6/6/2007 12:19:16 PM , Rating: 1
I dont want to pull apart your post... but I cant resist.

AMD was, and most likely will always be the underdog. (yes, Im an AMD fan, although I type from a C2D mobile :) )
The only reason people are worried about AMD is because they fail to (or are to young to) remember before 2003, when Intel smoked every AMD out there. The only competitive advantage was their prices.
In essence, Intel fucked up, sat on their laurels, and netbursted their way into second place. Intel, at least 50% larger than AMD, has FAR more resources to dump into the game. The reason AMD is falling behind, is because of the die shrinks (and the rapidity at which they are occurring... anyone remember how long we were at .90?) cost a HUGE amount of money to develop and fab. As a corporation, Intel is far better equipped to outflow that volume of resources.

I honestly dont understand why people are worried. AMD is simply defaulting back to historically what they have been good at - price cutting for a better performance/price ratio. This lets their high end stuff go up against Intel's mid/ mid-high range parts, at half the price. They hurt em where they can.

Basically the 64bit and x2 procs woke the sleeping giant that was Intel. All we can hope for now is that AMD keeps snipping at the giants heels, driving them forward.

Ive head this many times, and it pisses me off. They have the memory controller on-die. Thats it. Not the whole N-Bridge...
And I believe Intel said they were going to an integrated MC with the Penryn, although I could be mistaken

RE: One never ever knows.
By Martimus on 6/6/2007 12:40:03 PM , Rating: 4
AMD had faster 486 chips than Intel. The K6 was also faster than the Pentium and the Pentium Pro. Not many people knew these things, because Intel had a much more marketing and clout in the industry. At that time, it was always assumed that Intel had the best quality, because other chips were known to have poor quality (like Cyrix) and Intel was a safe bet. Intel did not always have better chips than AMD. I would even go so far as to say that AMD had the better processor throughout most of the 90's.

As for the memory contoller; Intel plans on incorporating that with the next architecture change, not the next die shrink. It will likely be available at the end of 2008. Nehalem is the Intel chip that should have the memory controller on the die.

RE: One never ever knows.
By Justin Case on 6/6/2007 12:45:29 PM , Rating: 3
Not to mention the Athlon MP which was, IMO, the real "turning point" for AMD in terms of going after the server / workstation market.

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RE: One never ever knows.
By nah on 6/7/2007 3:38:48 AM , Rating: 2
Intel did not smoke AMD before 2003--remember the Athlon ?

RE: One never ever knows.
By Slaimus on 6/7/2007 6:08:37 PM , Rating: 2
AMD quad cores do have the northbridge on-chip as well. If you look at the die shots from the past posts, it clearly labels the northbridge. In addition to the memory controller, the northbridge probably handles a lot of the inter-core communication.


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