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So you're saying that because it happened ages ago, genocide is alright?

Because it's not.

The reason that those men are romanticized is:

a) There was no good way of recording history.

b) "History is determined by the victor" very much rang true back then, as any means of storytelling that painted the 'hero' in a bad light could easily by stamped out and erased.

c) It's been such a long period of time that humans aren't psychologically capable of feeling empathy for the victims of those past wars.

Do you think that in a couple of hundred years that Hitler will be romanticized? He essentially did what your 'explorers' did by conquering his neighbours, except more recently; so by your logic he's a hero, just not yet because our psyches reject that concept due to his genocide being fresh on our minds.

EDIT: That was a genuine question. Do you think he will be? I think it's possible, but the fact that we have so much media spread out via the internet (a very recent accomplishment, the internet) that portrays him in the bad light that he deserves, I don't think he'll be seen as a hero by future generations.

[–]kirkisartist 0 points1 point  (0 children)


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Hitler will likely go down as a cruel, self destructive loser that burned down Europe in a senseless act of hatred. Nobody is allowed to openly discuss why he was so pissed. So I think his chapter has already been written. He might be compared to Vlad the Impaler at best.

[–]kirkisartist 0 points1 point  (1 child)


I think you get the point but are emotionally tied to it. None of the conqueror's I mentioned are my heroes. Neither is Christopher Columbus for that matter. But when you look at history don't even try to justify morality, just look at what it is. The US was no less ruthless than Hitler at one point. Genocide, slavery, biological warfare, you name it. All under the slogan of manifest destiny. Now we act like we're some great liberator from some "shining city on a hill". Don't be mistaken we are as predatory as any other empire. That's why NASA wants to find life on other planets so we can kick it's ass.

Hitler wasn't an explorer BTW. He was conquering familiar ground out of a sense of entitlement, rage and paranoia.



That is MY point though.

The fact that we, as a race, make movies and create other media that glorifies these men and their supposed achievements just continues the cycle.

I don't just look at history for what it is, and that's why I took issue with your first point.

I admit that I may have blown it out of proportion a little.