

Which is right side of NFL labor dispute? Our side







Money. Lots of it.



And that is ridiculous.










Other players? They're not hurting, folks.














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And you is stuuuupid.

Had to weigh in on this because in all the commentary I've read, one important point keeps getting overlooked: the owners really don't have to care what the players think. Think of the owners as 32 of the richest people in the country. The value of owning a sports team has nothing to do with profits and losses, any more than the value of an owner's Ferrari collection or yachts or horse farms. Owners collect these things as toys. Anyone who thinks that football (or soccer or any other pro athlete) players are anything more to an owner than another thoroughbred racehorse doesn't understand the mindset of the wealthy at that level. Only in Green Bay does the profitability of the franchise make a difference to the economy of the community. I remember the replacement games of 1987 (whatever happened to Kyle Mackey?) and people still paid to see those players. As fans, we have no influence on the process. As long as we get our football fix, what difference does it make?

dr. Roberts,

You should be a little more careful when you try to explain Socialism. You are rather ignorant on the subject of government and its many forms. You should get your facts straight.

Socialism is a form of government not a business structure. A government is the only entity that has the right to use force (waive a gun in your face). A socialist government enacts laws and rules that private business must follow. A socialist government steals property (money) from its producers and gives to its non-producers. A “true” capitalist government leaves business owners and citizenry free to pursue their own interests and keep the fruits of their labor. I say “true” because most people think America is a capitalist form of government. We were capitalist for approximately 100 years but that ended when the progressives took power in the early 1900’s.

The business owners decided (there was no use of force by the government) to structure the NFL in a way that encouraged consistency and stability by sharing revenue. It is not socialistic. People who work for the NFL chose to work for the NFL; there was no force. Everyone who bought an NFL team did so on their own free will, again no force.

Stop trying to fool the ignorant into thinking Socialism is a good thing for humanity by relating it to the NFL. When you don’t know something you shouldn’t pretend to know. If you do think you know what you are talking about it time to seriously open a book (non-socialist) and learn. You are certainly not a doctor and you demean the title for those that actually worked for it, unlike you.

Remember Hitler (a socialist) killed 12 million of his own, Stalin (a socialist) killed 20-30 million of his own and Mao (a socialist) killed 40 – 60 million of his own. Pol Pot (a socialist) killed 2 million of his own.

I think this is a total of 2 (maybe 3) posts EVER, that I liked by you, Mando! Good job. 2 (or 3) out of hundreds ain't too shabby.

But more importantly, you should use whatever pull in the industry you have to get this particular angle out in the open more, because you're right. Screw these money hungry jerk offs who are all trying to relate to the "every-man". None of them will ever know what it's like to be an "every-man", and yet they have the nerve to act like they do.

I side with the players on this one. And, in an attempt to be "fair" Armando shows his ignorance of basic economics and what happened. Even if the economy did tank in 2008, that means nothing if the NFL continued to prosper. It is their bottom line that matters. As for the cost of business going up - that is BS. Companies had to cut back because of less demand, which is not a problem with the NFL as it's product is actually more in demand. This means the NFL's cost of doing business has actually gone down.

If the owners suffered any during this downturn it is because they made bad investments with the money it earned and if that is so, then the cost should be shouldered by the owners, not the players.

Awesome! Could not say it any better. See you in August for training camp morons; cause if it goes longer than that they are dumber than I think. And I think they are pretty freakn stupid now!


Unfortunately you showed you do not have a clue about economics. It’s called inflation. It hit every American; rich or poor. Armando didn’t attempt to be fair. He tried to paint an accurate portrayal of the facts. Yes the NFL continued to prosper but the dollars they brought in were worth less. Almost all Americans (with any net worth) try and use debt to offset their income. When inflation rears its ugly head it affects those investments. I would go into a further analysis but I know it will be a futile effort because you will have no clue what I am talking about. I probably lost you at inflation.

“Even if the economy did tank in 2008, that means nothing if the NFL continued to prosper. It is their bottom line that matters. As for the cost of business going up - that is BS.” This is a moronic statement. The dollars are worth less you twit. Yes they are collecting dollars with little value. Did you ever hear your grandmother say she could by a candy bar for a nickel? Our money was worth more, now it is worth less. Over the past 10 years the dollar has lost 30% of its value. We are on course to lose another 30% in the next 1 to 2 years.


Yes there is more demand but the dollars are worth less.

“This means the NFL's cost of doing business has actually gone down.”

Wrong, wrong, wrong… and STUPID! The cost goes up every year idiot. Did electricity go down? Did insurance go down? Do the players wanna be paid less? Did all the other employees get pay cuts in the NFL? Every expense increased making the cost of business more expensive.

Do us a favor Paul, stick you head back in the sand and let the big boys talk money. Don’t worry Paul they made something to help people like you… it’s called a BOOK! They even make one on economics so you don’t have to embarrass yourself on the blog next time.


I forgot to mention the major increases in taxes that the owners pay. Since we are in a recession all governments want more tax revenue. To review for you little guy… taxes are an expense… when all your expenses go up the overall expense of doing business goes up. This is a compete contradiction to your statement about expenses decreasing. Get a clue and stop pretending to know what you are talking about.

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