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By Argon18 on 4/14/2011 11:08:27 AM , Rating: 2
huh? this has nothing to do with politicians or who you voted for. don't like TSA policy? fine! don't use them. vote with your dollars. Take the train or rent a car. Don't use air travel. It's called voting with your dollars - the most effective way to force a company or organization to change course, is to cut their revenue.

By Motoman on 4/14/2011 11:13:26 AM , Rating: 2 do realize that the TSA isn't affected by, or funded by, air travel tickets, right?

Your argument is retarded.

The TSA is one of our very greatest national shames, and is totally under control by elected officials...buying or not buying air travel has no effect on the existence of the TSA.

By AntiM on 4/14/2011 11:35:15 AM , Rating: 5
Actually, if people refuse to fly because of TSA tactics, you can bet that the airlines will use their lobby to force changes.

By kattanna on 4/14/2011 11:53:12 AM , Rating: 2
while i want to agree with you, i do, its also telling how not to long ago the loophole of airports having the ability to opt out of TSA screening and use their own has been removed.

TSA screening is now 100% mandatory.

heck they are even expanding it to be including train stations and other forms of public transport.

ARLINGTON, Va. — Protecting riders on mass-transit systems from terrorist attacks will be as high a priority as ensuring safe air travel, the new head of the Transportation Security Administration promises.

By Sazabi19 on 4/14/11, Rating: -1
By Motoman on 4/14/2011 12:20:42 PM , Rating: 3
...and a warrantless search and/or invasion of privacy and/or sexual assault is still illegal. You're the idiot.

By MrBlastman on 4/14/2011 1:09:46 PM , Rating: 4
You're the only fool here. You're the fool who is helping to spread this sort of "fear based society."

Yes, we should all be scared. We should all submit to our Government's will. The Government knows best. They are our keepers. They will keep us physically safe and keep us from hurting ourselves by taking our guns, taking our knives and taking our stones. They will keep us mentally safe by providing us with the medication we need to enhance our minds. They will also keep us intellectually safe by removing from us all books and information that could potentially hurt our thoughts and providing for us only what we need to know.

Yes, the Government is all knowing, wise and looks out for our best interests. Hail the Government. Hail our sworn guardians and protectors!

Somehow, I can actually see you buying into this along with millions of other people.

The Terrorists have won.

By Sazabi19 on 4/14/2011 3:02:28 PM , Rating: 1
Lol I'm all for less govt, I'm just saying people need to quit moaning about this. This is the way it is right now, take another form of travel if you don't like it. I myself own more firearms than most people have in their house collectively, and no, I did not vote for this president. I am all for the TSA going away, but right now people need to quit being stupid about it, trying to make something out of this that is is not (saying its some form of molestation or sexual assault) is only going to hurt our cause.

By MrBlastman on 4/14/2011 3:15:23 PM , Rating: 2
Well, okay, you're right about one thing--saying it is a form of molestation is definitely the wrong approach. It isn't and I even consider it ridiculous if people call it that. I think it is wrong to search a child but that's about as far as I go.

As for firearms, I'm right there with you. I don't need no expect the Government to protect me, at all. In fact, a friend of mine is a Police Officer and even he says, "The Police are not here to protect you, they are here to show up after a crime occurs and to pick up the pieces."

I refuse, however, to stay quiet about the absurdity of the TSA. The only way things are fixed is by making them known first and then secondly, taking action.

By robinthakur on 4/15/2011 7:15:04 AM , Rating: 3
I would say firstly that as somebody from the UK with an external view it is deeply ironic that the US, a country so ill at ease with nudity, sex and so particularly phobic about child-molestation is now allowing this to happen to their own citizens.

It is plainly LUDICROUS that such an invasive procedure is used against the innocent majority. It's not like this type of event was difficult to foresee either when the policy started: I recall reading on here "What happens when one of the TSA pat down my kid" etc.

It's a classic case of a lack of empathy towards other people by the people that come up with these rules. I wonder how many of them get frisked in such a fashion? If we saw Hillary Clinton on TV with a TSA member putting their hands "palm side down...inside her waistband" it might reassure people that this is a universal measure, but we don't because it would never happen.

Instead, people are expected to endure this behaviour which most are taught to regard as molestation, plain and simple. There is also the uncomfortable truth that this kind of search is only really valid against people having materials strapped to the outside of their bodies and that suspicious people should be identified long before they buy a ticket and set foot in the airport.

They need to profile intelligently regardless of PC notions, when a passenger could be endangering the lives of hundreds of people on an aircraft, this can and should take precedence over civil liberties. They need to have body language experts, lie detectors, ask pertinant questions, deploy bomb-sniffing dogs (which would be FAR more effective and be a big deterrant to potential bombers), body scanners, but at the end of the day if somebody has a bomb inside them, there is very little you can do if they have gotten to that point in the security check or actually boarded the flight without actively driving people away from flight en masse with body cavity searches.

The point I disagee with is the person saying that no child under 6 has ever been involved in a terrorist incident, therefore they are no risk. They are low risk, but they are a weak point which is likely to get exploited in the future if our enemies consider it to be a chink in the armour just like the cargo weakness was focussed on. The enemy's objective is to create terror and a state of constant fear, and they certainly appear to be able to do this with very little investment on their part, while the US and its allies spend billions...

By kerpwnt on 4/14/2011 2:10:25 PM , Rating: 1
They would be lucky if they were allowed to walk out. I've seen videos of people being threatened with jail for trying to leave the airport after being selected for "enhanced" search.

By FaaR on 4/14/11, Rating: 0
By MrBlastman on 4/14/2011 1:05:16 PM , Rating: 2
How do you rationalize this has nothing to do with the politicians we voted for? Please, amuse me. I really want to know!

It has everything to do with who we voted for because these imbeciles that are up in Washington are the very people who both voted and ratified into law and policy the creation of the TSA and their disgusting agenda. These same fools are the same people that continue to allow these atrocities to continue.

But, like I said, I'd love for you to eloquently prove to me that this has nothing to do with the politicians we voted for.

By Reclaimer77 on 4/14/2011 3:20:01 PM , Rating: 2

Look, let's get real here for a minute. People were scared, demanding politicians do something. Please remember that, at the time, we could NOT know that 9-11 wasn't a prelude to more domestic attacks using airliners.

Now 11 years later, yes, we can all plainly see the TSA isn't needed anymore. And their policies sure as hell could use some work.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. But you act like there are people who need to be crucified when all they were doing was their job; protecting the citizens of the United States. Politicians were simply responding to overwhelming public outcry amid genuine fears of safety. The people in those planes lost their lives, remember? People who boarded those planes, secure in their belief that everything had been done to guarantee their safety. And the system failed. We failed them. They and thousands more are dead.

If the TSA had not been formed and there WERE more 9-11 style attacks, I think we all would be singing a different tune today.

By MrBlastman on 4/14/2011 3:38:03 PM , Rating: 2
Sure we were scared. However, some of us like to rely on ourselves to keep us safe. If you pack heat and someone messes with you, do you call the police or a TSA agent? No, you take care of the problem right there.

This is the whole problem. Americans are being taught to rely on someone else to save them. Years ago, we were taught to stand up for ourselves. If more of us did that now, the world would be a better and safer place.

The whole purpose behind the Terrorists is to make us scared.

By Reclaimer77 on 4/14/2011 3:43:55 PM , Rating: 2
Yes I "pack heat" here at home and in my car, but I can't do it on an aircraft.

As a Conservative, I agree that we should be more self reliant. But let's be real here, if ANY politician stood up and said at the time "Airports are fine, we don't need added security." he would have been committing career suicide. He would have been voted out faster than you could spit.

The whole purpose behind the Terrorists is to make us scared.

Umm no, sorry but they had MUCH bigger goals in mind. Our financial, military, and political base was targeted. Remember if not for some very brave people, the White House would have also been hit. Their goal was to weaken or cripple the whole country, not simply make us scared.

