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What else about F15 Beta, that isn't GNOME related?








[User Picture]From: spevack
2011-04-20 04:46 pm (UTC)

Re: item 2 is really bad

People (especially open source people) expect more fine-grained control over their computers than they do their TVs.
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From: adamwill.id.fedoraproject.org
2011-04-20 07:28 pm (UTC)

Re: item 2 is really bad

but is that 'correct', or inevitable? is it really nice to make a choice from five options every time you're done with the computer? I have f15 on my desktop and f14 on my laptop; when I first updated to f15 I was annoyed that hitting the magic-done-with-the-computer button on the desktop just suspended it rather than giving me five choices of what I wanted to do, now I'm annoyed when that ugly annoying five-choices box pops up on the laptop and makes me click something, instead of it just suspending quietly. The magic done-with-the-computer button makes it be quiet and dark, and then when I want to use it again, the magic button makes it bright and brings all my toys back. Quickly. It does what I actually wanted, without making me click an extra button all the time. The extra choices don't do me much good, but they're there if I need them...slightly de-emphasized.
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From: (Anonymous)
2011-04-21 01:51 pm (UTC)

Re: item 2 is really bad

wouldn't be the best solution to let users decide? If you didn't want to be bothered by five options you would just set one option up in the settings. Not having a choice every time I'm done with my computer is as annoying for me as having the choice for you.
BTW forcing people to suspend their computers instead of turning them off is extremely "green". I read a study which calculated how much power suspended computers consume and it was a huge number nation-wide. I can't even imagine every person on Earth using GNOME 3 and being forced to suspend :-)
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From: adamwill.id.fedoraproject.org
2011-04-21 04:38 pm (UTC)

Re: item 2 is really bad

AFAIK on most current hardware, suspend power draw is about 2W. It should be possible to improve that with better hardware, though...
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From: bochecha.id.fedoraproject.org
2011-04-21 08:51 am (UTC)

Re: item 2 is really bad

I actually expect to be able to cut the electrical power on my TV.

No matter how few power it's draining when on standby, even if its just to light the tiny little red LED, it's still more than 0.

What I did is I set the "power off button pressed" action to "ask" in the Gnome system settings, and now I can completely turn off my computer easily.
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