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[–]DaenerysMomODragons 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I just reached 1,000,000 myself, and you're at the point where it really slows down. It took me 80 ascensions to reach 1,000,000. Of the 80, I used a quick ascension on 25-79. It's a lot of rubies. I'd suggest saving up all your rubies until you have around 2500, than just QA to the top.

On a side note, QAs cap out at zone 1,000,000 so once you reach there if you want to go further you can't QA but have to reset, and use time lapses to get back.

And no, stay active, idle is far far slower, if you think this is painful it'll be 10x more painful as an idle build. Note that you may still want to put some points into the idle ancients to time lapse to help kick start a run. https://driej.github.io/Clicker-Heroes-Timelapses/ is a good time lapse calculator that does a good job of suggesting when to time lapse, when to hold on to your rubies and when to QA.

[–]Sheduw 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So after i QA to zone 1M and transcend, will the next transcension go any faster or is that also an 80 asc grind?

I guess what im asking is do i need to QA to 1M every transcension after this?

Thanks in advance

[–]DaenerysMomODragons 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Unfortunately future transcends after 1M don't really go any faster. The reason previous runs went faster as you transcended was mostly due to transcendent power, which caps out at 25%, of which you're probably at 24.99%. You put the vast majority of new AS in Borb. A few more points in Chor/Phan/Pony could perhaps reduce it from 80 to 79/78, but it will always be a grind you want to QA through.

[–]Sheduw 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Where am i supposed to get all those rubies, that just sounds insanely costly and very difficult to maintain.

[–]DaenerysMomODragons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should be focusing mercenaries entirely on ruby missions. You can get a fair amount of rubies from clickables if you're actively watching, and on mobile you can watch adds all day long. But yes it is quite costly. And once you're past 1M you can't QA anymore but you'll want to TL each one which can get even more expensive. The end game is largely about rubies.

[–]hugglesthemerciless 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Idle is fucking worthless for progress. Don't even consider it. You will literally get nowhere. You're not hitting a wall. A wall would mean you're doing tons of ascensions without progressing at all, you should still be getting a couple thousand zones per ascension (assuming you're not doing anything wrong). Gaining 100 OoMs per ascension is perfectly fine. It fluctuates a lot. Basically the only thing keeping you progressing are the upgrades and new heroes after Madzi. You lose roughly 63% of the zones gained each ascension until hitting a new upgrade.

You're at the point of the game where transcending doesn't make you stronger anymore because you're at basically max TP, and none of the outsiders actually do anything worthwhile (other than blessed borb of course). So now the strategy is to keep ascending (using timelapses/quick ascensions to skip most of the ascension to progress faster(meaning you need to use hybrid)) until you run out of borb (ie have more than 2 monsters per zone) which is when you transcend.

[–]HAximand[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You're right that I'm still progressing, it's just massively slower than it was just 2 transcensions ago. It's less like hitting a wall and more like going from a full sprint to wading through molasses. I mean, I'm gaining ~8,000 zones every 2 days.

[–]DaenerysMomODragons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just wait until you get to Cadu and Ceus. That's the slowest part of the game. On the bright side once you get through Cadu and Ceus, and unlock The Maw, things really speed up a lot.

[–]hugglesthemerciless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea it's really unfortunate that you have a couple transcensions of super quick growth beforehand but the game is mostly balanced around the progress you're experiencing now. Ideally you use timelapses to skip through most of the ascension, there's a timelapse calc in the sidebar

[–]PlainBillOregon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's what the progression curve looks like up to almost zone 3.5M:

Almost 1 year!

At the very start, see how it slows down before getting almost vertical? That's progress prior to The Maw. That's where you're at.