

Men in a Minefield

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 4:51 pm Tue 16th January 2007





Men live in a minefield.

9 Responses to “Men in a Minefield”

  1. andy says:

    Alright some of what you say is true BUT the mens movement is about righting the wrongs done against men not sympathising with men who are convicted child sex offenders!!! I am a divorced farther of two i have since remarried and am to become a father of three in march. I have been through hell in the family court trying to remain a influential figure in my childrens lives. the issue i have with sex offending is in NO WAY SUPPORTING THE MEN WHO ACTUALLY DO OFFEND!!!! but stop all men being typecasted for the actions of a few. my daughter is 16 and YES she is a “GIRL”! She may be of the age of consent in the laws eyes but it is completely INDECENT for grown men to try to get sexual with teenagers. my daughter is a lovely girl bright doing great in school and netball but she not emoitionally mature she likes running around with her younger brother and is still growing up . The age of consent is not intended so older men can take advantage of the lack of emotional maturity teenagers have. A 52yr old peadiphile sending sexual texts to a 16yr old and your trying to rationalize this WHY???? or a forty four year old in a CARPARK with a 16yr old. these are not very favourable examples of men going thruogh minefeilds!!! my story ofr the many other mens about divorce settlements and custody rights are true strugglee, these illustrated are not! i understand your point prehaps the girls edged the on BUT they are the adults and they need to exercise selfd control.It is not right for grown to have sex with teens its not, and this is not what this whole mens movement is about its about stoping the prejudges and generalisations that all men are like these ones outlined!i am here because i want to not get taken for a ride and have my kids taken off me obviously some are here to endorse their barely legal fantasy! men with teenage daughters will understand my desire to to not protect men who want to have sex with them.

  2. Stephen says:

    Great posting.
    Thanks for this Hans.
    Yes indeed modern nz man does exist in a sexual minefield full of many no-win contradictions.
    I like how you highlight that going with younger/lower status women can be so ‘hazardous for men. Stupid thing is it’s hordes of women who are make themselves attracted to men with higher status than themselves and tend to want to marry up. You never see a plumber being voted ‘Man of the year’ or truck driver being crowned ‘Most eligible bachelor’.
    Methinks we need to stop treating women like kids and hold them to the same levels of responsibility and punishments for criminal behavior, or else I fear too many will keep acting like spoilt brats.

  3. Hans Laven says:

    Yes Andy, I accept your points. I hope I did not imply that I approved of older men trying to seduce teenagers. I would strongly discourage it, and I applaud your supervision and advice to your daughter. I might even express my opinion directly against an older man who I saw trying to seduce a teenager. But in these cases men are being treated as sexual offenders though it is not clear they have broken sexual laws. If our society wants something to be treated as illegal, then we should pass laws to that effect. If we allow one group (in this case men) to be treated as criminals when they in fact have remained within the law, then we are according fewer rights to that group than to the rest of society.

  4. keith says:

    Andy;I have a 10 year old girl.I am a non custodial loser.As far as 16 year old girls with greatly older men goes; makes me squirm also.BUT Perhaps the loving mothers of these girls could talk to their daughter’s about these dangers.I will definitely be talking to mine about it prior to 16.What’s the bet that these girls come from a split family and their father has little to zero input;because of the system;and so these girls get into trouble a lot more than other girls with good dad input.Statistics show that “dadless” girls get into more trouble and become pregnant much earlier.

  5. dad4justice says:

    Yeah I am a non-custodial daddy with absolutely no access because I was shafted up the date by the corrupt femnazi lying scumbags in the de — family court. We should start a club of fathers who have been done over; maybe we could hang a sign at the door that states welcome to the kiwi sub class.

    I wonder whether my 14-year-old daughter or 12 year old daughter will get pregnant first? Whatever you can guarantee I won’t get told and the judge and the girl’s mother will say it was my entire friggin fault

    What else would you expect from a Western society that has the highest child abuse rate in the world. The radical feminazi’s started laying their sneaky and insidious gender minefield in the 1970’s.I used to watch M.A.S.H and TV and sing suicide is painless for a laugh .Oh my my hows things have changed !!!

    Now kiwiland boasts a large group of angry men estranged and tortured by an unbalanced – hateful — p/c corrupt government that endorses fatherlessness, so they can create countless vulnerable children. The mistakes from the loony left still go unchecked, as they condone child abuse because it titillates their selfish human lusts

  6. andy says:

    i think one point i was really trying to make in my earlier comment that i missed was i think its very wrong if not illegal for grown men to seduce a teen(or infact allow themselves to be seuduced by a teen) and i agree society should condemn such behaviour. but i also agree society should condemn the reverse situation as strongly(a grown woman with a teenage boy) and it does not infact sometimes the boy is blamed for harrasing the woman!!! this is wrong i would be equally horrified of a woman taking advantage of my sons immatiurity as i would a man of my daughter, but society doesnot seem condemn the first instance unless the woman is a teacher of the boy(then it is mainly for reasons of professianal misconduct). im sure if the situation hans mentioned about the man in the carpark was a woman with a 16yr old boy, the article would not have described saving him from a trumatic sex attack!

  7. Anonymous says:

    Violet mahari.. Self defence or not. There was always another option for her, than to inflict harm causing death upon the person who apparently had abused her. Not saying that all women do, but she did. The people she is staying with now, family. If the abuse was going on for so long then why have they only taken her in now rather than when he was alive. What kind of family is that. I do sympathise for her if her allegations are true, no one should have to suffer like that, but nor should someone die for it. Sure he should pay, but not with his life. My heart is with his kids who will never see him again, to the family who were unable to attend the funeral being xmas, as I bet that xmas was not a happy one for any!

  8. anonomous says:

    RE:Violet Mahari case, I think we, as people, cant possibly know how its like to live in a volatile relationship, unless we have been there. I say, who are we to judge!. Yes, we can say to ourselves, why and how could anyone take someones life, but, we will never comprehend the depth of mental and physical abuse that one is put through, whether you are woman or man. Opinions are learning blocks, however, we must remember that there are two parties here, families of victim and instigator. The question is when does it end?. My family and I grieve for someone who was exposed to something similar. We will continue to grieve until we find it in our hearts to forgive, until then, we will always stay unworthy to ourselves and the people we love the most.

  9. anonymous says:

    I will never forgive her…

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