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An elephant never forgets.
Be well.

Deuce, 21 June 2018

Sunday, February 15, 2015

The US, UK, France overthrew the government of Libya as they did in Iraq and attempted to do in Syria. The result has been chaos, misery and death at the hands of religious fanatics..

The working governments of Libya and Iraq were eliminated by FUKUS. A similar attempt was made in Egypt and Syria. This is what is left in the wake of the Neocon dream of destruction.


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    1. Of course, bought and paid for by Mr Crown of General Dynamics.

      Follow the money.

    2. joos under the bed, joos in the closet...

      you are a broken antisemetic record.

    3. Not at all, "O"rdure.
      That Mr Crown paid Mr Obama millions of dollars, a known.
      That Mr Crown is extremely influential in Chi-town politics, a known.
      That Mr Crown profited greatly during the tenure of Mr Obama, a known.

      That you deny reality, a known

    4. http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/The-Obama-gut-test

      Here is part of the case for Mr Obama that Lester wrote for the JPost.

      Romney has attacked a president who has done more for Israel than any recent predecessor. Over the last three years he:

      • Authorized $3 billion of foreign aid assistance in 2011 and $3.075b. in 2012.

      • Added an additional $205 million to produce more Iron Domes missile defense systems in 2011 and an additional $70m. in 2012.

      • Oversaw hundreds of millions of dollars in funding for the joint development and production of the Arrow and David’s Sling missile defense systems.

      • Unconditionally backed the closest and most in-depth relationship between the US military and the IDF in history.

      Recently, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said, “This administration under President Obama is doing in regard to our security more than anything that I can remember in the past.”

    5. ... the financial benefits of publishing books for presidential candidates can be substantial — particularly if they get elected. including the bestseller, "The Audacity of Hope," three months before he announced his campaign for president in 2007.


    6. ... the financial benefits of publishing books for presidential candidates can be substantial — particularly if they get elected. Crown Publishing agreed to pay then-U.S. Sen. Barack Obama a $1.9 million advance for three books, including the bestseller, "The Audacity of Hope,"

      Revised and extended

    7. Doug would tell you that Mr Obama did not even write those books himself, but had them 'ghost written'

    8. Jack is obsessed with jews....

      Maybe his ex-wife left him for one?

    9. :)

      Maybe she left him for Lester Crown ?

      What I don't get is why a Jewish guy like Lester would support Barack "When the political winds change, I'll stand with the Moslems" Obama.

      Never made any sense to me.

  2. But the interests of the US, UK, France and the others in the posse were served.

    Peace and tranquility in those lands, not in the National Interest.
    The oil is of paramount National interest.

    As Mr Cheney said ...

    - Speech delivered at the Cato Institute, (June 23, 1998)

    1. He then said, a year later ...

      - Speech delivered at the London Institute of Petroleum, 1999

  3. Henry Kissinger:
    ''In 10 years Israel will cease to exist''
    8 years to go ...

    Now "O"rdure complained about the quote, but came here and asked about Mr Obama, not wanting to reenter the discussion about Mr Kissinger, not wanting to elaborate upon the words of Mr Kissinger or the referenced article ...

    Because here is what it says, at the reference sited....

    Kissinger's statement is flat and unqualified.
    He is not saying that "Israel" is in danger, but could be saved if just gave it additional trillions of dollars and smashed enough of its enemies with American military.
    He is not saying that if bomb Iran, "Israel" might survive.
    He is not offering a way out.
    He is simply stating a fact: In 2022, "Israel" will no longer exist.

    Talk about misrepresentation, "O"rdure is the master, it is why he would not provide any reference for his bombastic remarks, they were lies, misdirection and plainly not representing what Mr Kissinger said.

    1. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported on Monday that a staffer who works in Kissinger's New York office denied that her boss had made the quote.

      "It's not a misquote," Tara Butzbaugh was quoted as saying about Adams' column. "He didn't say it."


      So your 10 year quote is bogus.

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    3. Sorry, "O"rdure, but hearsay does not make it.

      New York Post gossip columnist Cindy Adams reports she was told that former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said Israel will not exist in 10 years • Kissinger staffer denies the report, according to Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

      Tara Butzbaugh is not Mr Kissinger, and cannot speak for him.

    4. Cindy Adams is a GOSSIP columnist.

      Your references need polishing

    5. The NY Post is more reliable when reporting on US politico than any source in Palestine.

    6. there is no such thing as palestine Jack...

      Just as there is no such thing as a pluralistic arab nation.

      Keep grasping at straws Jack...

      here is a tip

      Israel IS...

      Choke on it...

  4. Oh, So I control Deuce who turned off the thread's comments?

    1. Cold you repeat that in understandable English?

    2. Could you repeat that in understandable English?

    3. Go fuck yourself jack

      Is that clear enough?

    4. It is clear that you are falling short.
      Clear that you still are bitter, not even sweet.

      But, rest assured, "O"rdure, the System is not screwed.

      It is funny that in 2008 you were celebrating that credit was not available, in 2014 you no longer were so giddy.

      Celebrate, Celebrate, Dance to the Music

      The learning curve was a tad steeper than you thought it was going to be, aye.

    5. Actually Jack the system is screwed.

      But don't worry about me...

      Because the system is the way the system is?

      I get all sorts of tax breaks for investing in machinery and not people...


      Means of production ya know...

      what the heck my house? aint even close to being my largest investment...

      but parve chocolate?


  5. Kissinger DID say "A moderate Moslem is one that's out of ammo."

    About the topic of the thread, Obama backed the MB in Egypt. Now THAT would have been a true catastrophe.

    Morsi was inching to re-militarize the Sinai but then he ended up in the very jail cell recently occupied by Mubarak.

    In a beautiful culbate generale I hope to never forget.

    Obama also failed to give even verbal support to those trying to overthrown the mullahs in Iran.

    Remember Neda !


    Then of course Obama took the troops out too soon turning Iraq into chaos and is going to do the same in Afghanistan which will again become a haven for terrorists of the type that took the World Trade Center down.

    1. We also tend to forget that Saddam was a real arsehole. He invaded Kuwait, fought a long futile war with Iran, gassed the Kurds, mercilessly repressed Iraq's Shia and would have, if he could have gotten away with it, invaded eastern Saudi Arabia.

      He also consistently violated the No Fly Zone and the other sanctions that had been place upon him. Not to mention lobbing some missiles into Israel.

      Like Whit once said: "He deserved killin'."

    2. As for Israeli involvement in all this, I can do no better than repeat the words of the IDF General, whose name I can't recall, who said at the time "You might look back and long for the days of Saddam."

      Another little event I hope to never forget.

      So we know that Israeli, at least, opinion was quite divided, as it generally is on most things.

    3. Israel is NOT part of the p5+1 talks with Iran.

      Now it's reported that Obama has cut Israel out of the loop.

      It would not surprise me to see israel nip the iranians and hezbollah in southern syria in the next few days.

  6. About 2 million people killed and wounded in 47 months, and it is still not enough …
    February 7, 2015 Comments Off

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has documented death of 210060 persons since 18/03/2011, which witnessed the fall of the first martyr in Daraa, until 05/02/2015.

    The casualties are as follows:
    Civilians: 100973 civilians, including 10664 children and 6783 women.

    Rebel and Islamic fighters: 35827

    Defected soldiers and officers: 2498


    Regular regime soldiers and officers: 45385



    Fighters from Hezbollah: 640

    Unidentified dead people (documented by photos and footages): 3130

    It is worth noting that the numbers do not include more than 20000 detainees in regime prisons and thousands of those who disappeared during regime raids and massacres. It does not include more than 7000 regular soldiers and pro-regime militants and hundreds of “regime supporters” captured by IS, Islamic fighters, Al-Nusra front, rebel and Islamic battalions on charge of “dealing with the regime”.


    We in the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights estimates the real number of non-Syrian casualties from the IS, al-Nusra Front, Islamic factions, Jund Al-Aqsa battalion, Junoud al-Sham, al-Katiba al-Khadra’, Jund al-Sham, rebel battalions, regular forces and pro-regime militants to be approximately 85,000 more than the documented number due to the extreme discretion by all sides on the human losses caused by the conflict, the difficulty of communication in Syria, and the difficulties to know identify the fate of 40,000 detainees .

    Over 1.5 million Syrian civilians were seriously wounded or suffered from permanent disabilities, More than half of the Syrian people have been displaced, in addition to destroying the infrastructure of the country and the public and private properties during the past 47 months

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    Rat, every time you start off on one of these crazy memes you just end up making yourself look more foolish.

    First, you have been putting up the same supposed quote for months. Hell, even it the quote was genuine it was from Henry Kissenger for god's sake. Henry Kissenger.

    Then when a Kissenger staffer denies Henry ever made the statement you state her statement is disqualified because it was just hearsay ignoring the fact that the initial story you reported was also based on hearsay.

    Then, you denigrate the source that reported the denial because it was Palestinian (?) while at the same time putting up links to the Kavkaz Center, according to Wikipedia, the mouthpiece of the Caucasian Emirate.

    Conspiracy theory sites are one thing, rat, but you are now really starting to drift.


    1. Starting to drift ?

      The guy's hot air gas balloon has drifted past the moon.

      He's out in space. Has been for years.

      An important aspect of our humanitarian endeavors here should be to make certain he draws no one along behind him.

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    Jack HawkinsSun Feb 15, 09:04:00 PM EST

    Cold you repeat that in understandable English?

    Jack HawkinsSun Feb 15, 09:05:00 PM EST

    Could you repeat that in understandable English?