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Iran Nuclear Deal Details - Will NOT Stop Iranian Nuclear Weapons Programme

Politics / Nuclear Weapons Nov 24, 2013 - 05:20 AM GMT

By: Nadeem_Walayat



Unfortunately as my recent video analysis illustrated, I very much doubt that the announced deal will actually pan out in its goals given that -

a. Israel has 120 nuclear weapons

b. Sunni Pakistan has 120 nuclear weapons



So whilst I am skeptical of the nuclear deal as detailed below, however it is better than nothing, perhaps a baby step in the right direction because at least it buys the western powers time to deal with the Iran nuclear issue more decisively, though without a solution to the bigger issue that encourages countries such as Iran and Saudi Arabia to go nuclear which is Israel's extensive nuclear weapons programme.

Interim Iran Nuclear Deal Facts

As released by the White House

Halting the Progress of Iran’s Program and Rolling Back Key Elements

Iran has committed to halt enrichment above 5%:

Iran has committed to halt progress on its enrichment capacity:
• Not install additional centrifuges of any type.
• Not construct additional enrichment facilities.


• Not commission the Arak reactor.
• Not fuel the Arak reactor.
• Halt the production of fuel for the Arak reactor.
• No additional testing of fuel for the Arak reactor.
• Not install any additional reactor components at Arak.
• Not transfer fuel and heavy water to the reactor site.

Unprecedented transparency and intrusive monitoring of Iran’s nuclear program

Iran has committed to:

• Provide IAEA access to centrifuge assembly facilities.
• Provide IAEA access to uranium mines and mills.
• Provide more frequent inspector access to the Arak reactor.

Verification Mechanism


Limited, Temporary, Reversible Relief



Humanitarian Transactions


Putting Limited Relief in Perspective



Maintaining Economic Pressure on Iran and Preserving Our Sanctions Architecture


o Restricted access to the U.S. financial system.
• Sanctions on Iran’s military program remain in effect.
• All UN Security Council sanctions remain in effect.

A Comprehensive Solution







Source and Comments: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article43260.html

Nadeem Walayat







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25 Nov 13, 18:30
Iran has no nuclear weapons

So you disagree with the 16 US intelligence agencies who all insist there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program. Where are you getting your data, the Mossad?

What part of "There is no nuclear weapons program in Iran," has you so confused?

Starting WW III based on a lie would be a really stupid idea.


25 Nov 13, 19:31
Nuclear Weapons

Hi Bob

If you paid attention to the video then you would understand why, that Israel has 120, Sunni Pakistan has 120, and Sunni Saudi has 6 on order from Pakistan.

Calling the agencies intelligent is an oxymoron.

And I want the exact opposite of WW3, My opinion is that all states should be disarmed of nukes including Israel because it won't matter who starts a nuclear war, the result would be the same.



25 Nov 13, 20:32
Iran No Nukes


I agree with your comments but the article assumes something that doesn't exist, namely a weapons program on Iran's behalf.


There is no Iranian nuclear weapons program. There isn’t a $.10 cent nuclear weapons program much less a $100+ billion program. You are writing about something that is total disinformation on the behalf of the Mossad.

If you pointed that out, the thrust of the article would be totally different. Why don’t you do an article about Israel’s nuclear weapons program that does exist? You have fallen for a stalking goat on behalf of Israel. If you want to know what is really going on, go read a 17 year-old policy paper written by the same assholes who lied us into the Iraq war.



25 Nov 13, 21:17
Nuclear Article

Hi Bob

The article was in response to the Nuclear deal, it was a short piece acting as an addendum to the video, whereas the video is in-depth and comprehensive including detail on Israel's nuclear arsenal.



25 Nov 13, 22:08
Israel is the threat

Iran is no threat to anyone. Israel is.

So you believe the Mossad and reject what 16 US intelligence agencies all agree on.

The motto of the Mossad is "By way of deception." You don't have to believe what someone tells you when they admit in advance that they are liars.

Israel wants war with Iran. They have been going in that direction for 31 years. They put it in writing. They have 7.5 million people. Iran has 75 million. The only way Israel can attack Iran is with nuclear weapons.

I was a pilot with 824 missions in combat. Israel is the threat, not some fantasy nuclear weapons program in Iran.

Israel will lose. So will the US. It will last less than a week.

If you hate Israel, support their insanity.


25 Nov 13, 22:42
Nuclear Deterrance

Hi Bob

I agree with many of your points but your conclusion defies logic in that Israel wants to destroy Iran so why would Iran not want to deter Israel from destroying Iran which can only be achieved through nuclear weapons deterrence.

Especially when Iran sees that Israel's nuclear weapons has pretty much having allowed them to do anything they want without impunity.

Probability and logic dictates my analysis NOT propaganda from so called intelligence agencies.



26 Nov 13, 00:43
Israel is the threat

Remember, I was in a war. It's not a theory to me, it's something that I know well. Israel has between 100-400 nuclear weapons. If you attacked Israel you would be a sheet of glass two hours later. It would be the act of someone insane to attack Israel. Unless you are Russia or China and are prepared to lose a lot of people.

Israel intelligence says there has been no decision to make nuclear weapons by Iran, US intelligence says there is no decision to make nuclear weapons by Iran, so why is everyone talking about a nuclear weapons program that doesn't exist?

Iran is no threat to anyone. Israel is.


26 Nov 13, 01:15
Nuclear Threat

> Iran is no threat to anyone. Israel is.

There I disagree, it is not Israel or Iran it is NUCLEAR WEAPONS that are the threat because a nuclear war cannot be won, so it does not matter who starts it.

If you watch my video it will be explain that having a handful of bombs is very unstable because it invites first strike because during a crisis it is feared that the arsenal would not survive a limited first strike by Israel, which as you say had between 100 to 400 nukes (my estimate is 120 to 250).

The threat is nuclear weapons not Israel or Iran or Pakistan or India or China or Saudi Arabia, once a nuclear exchange begins then most of these arsenals would be unleashed - THAT is the threat.



26 Nov 13, 02:50
Samson Option

Google "Samson Option"

Guns don't kill, people do. Israel has threatened Iran, Iran has not threatened Israel. Now if you did a piece saying we need the countries in the Middle East that we agree have nuclear weapons and do threaten their neighbors, I'd post it in an instant. There is only one.


28 Nov 13, 19:55
israel the peacekeeper

imagine a middle east without Israel ? The only thing which keeps the peace (more or less) between Israels neighbours is their hatred of Israel, take Israel away and the middle east might erupt.

Irans president has made clear his hatred of Israel and his desire for the destruction of Israel, surely he speaks for a substantial constituency ?

Why does this constituency hate Israel so fervently ? For once, this really is a religeous war.

Most Israelis are secularists and moslems are generally quite religeous. Moslems believe the bible when it says that the borders of Israel are promised to extend from the euphrates to the nile. They dont like that.

Also they claim (correctly) that abraham is also their father. Problem is they (the moslems) are not the children of the promise (Isaac) they are the children of the handmaids son ishmael. They dont like that either.

Sounds obscure and irrelevant ? Not if you believe the prophet mohammed. Even more infuriating ( i should think ) is that most people in the west dont know or care and the ones in Israel dont believe anyway !

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