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Ep.63: Beyond Nutrition with Teri Cochrane

Robyn Openshaw, MSW - Jan 10, 2018 - This Post May Contain Affiliate Links

My friend, Teri Cochrane talks about the mathematical mysteries of living a high vibration life.  She is a graduate of the University of Florida and Huntington College. She’s an integrative practitioner and thought leader in functional epigenetic nutrition. She integrates kinesiology, biophysics, and nutrigenomic evaluations to help develop an individualized plan for clients. She left her 20 year corporate finance career almost 15 years ago to dedicate herself to ongoing research to helping people get to the Root of the Root of their illness.


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Robyn O:                                  Hi everyone. It’s Robyn Openshaw, and I’m so glad you’re back with me today for, “Your High Vibration Life.” I have a friend I want to introduce you to today, and she’s gonna talk about some interesting mathematical, but implied applications of living high vibration. We’re gonna get into some of the mysteries of the energetic world. Teri Cochrane is a graduate of the University of Florida and Huntington College. She’s an integrative practitioner and she’s an international thought leader in functional epigenetic nutrition. She’s developed the Cochrane Method. She integrated muscle testing, which I assume we’re talking kinesiology here, biophysics, and nutrigenomic evaluations to help develop an individualized plan for clients. She works with thyroid conditions, endocrine disorders, and viral illnesses, and she connects nutrition and imbalances in the body. So welcome, Teri Cochrane.

Teri Cochrane:                      Thank you so much Robyn. So glad to be with you.

Robyn O:                                  Me too. It’s been a long time in coming because, I had this fascinating conversation with you about the Fibonacci Sequence. So, we’re going to get into that. But first, let’s begin at the beginning. How did you get into this line of work, and studying energetics?

Teri Cochrane:                      Well, you know as life is never random, and there is an order and disorder, I actually had a 20-year corporate career doing real estate finance and strategic thinking, and risk management. But when my son was born, by the age of three, we were told to prepare for brain seizures and a life of dis-ease. He was constantly in the hospital, he was not talking, he was not walking at the age of three, he had the bone density of a 19 month old. We live in the Metro DC area, so we can avail ourselves of many wonderful doctors, yet he was a mystery. So, because I’m a Cuban refugee and we live in the world of the solution rather than being a victim, I decided that I was going to find a solution for my son because, I was not accepting the fate that had been cast upon him, which therefore it creates an energetic vibration of how he was going to spend the rest of his life.

So, as I dove into how and why this was happening to his body, I literally had an epiphany on my kitchen table, with books piled higher than I could see. It was, “Oh my goodness, it’s what we’re feeding him.” This was before the age of the internet, before the age of Google, and I just went to town researching and interviewing parents, interviewing doctors, and I connected the dots. It was the fact that we were feeding him, what were poisons to him. Within five days eliminating certain foods, he started breathing, and then he started walking and talking. So, for several years, I continued to study, as I had my day job at Freddie Mac. One day as I was meditating on the beach, as I had done very well at Freddie Mac. I led a department with five functional areas, and I had broken glass ceilings there in their multifamily division, and I was told, “Go quit your job,” which didn’t make any financial sense, didn’t make any logical sense but a higher guidance was gently ushering me to move into a new direction, so I listened.

I went back, and I gave my notice. So now we fast forward, my son is 23 years old, he was a Junior Olympic gold medalist in karate, multi-faceted, he’s a musician, he’s a singer, he was a scholar at one of our public ivies, and he just graduated. All of those things that we were told he would never be, he has defied what they said he would never be.

Robyn O:                                  On my feet, standing O, so exciting. Chills down my spine. I love it. You know, you and I are new friends, and you may not know that my beginnings came from when my oldest son was, “Failure to thrive, below the 5th percentile, in and out of hospitals, life-threatening asthma, constant steroids, bronchodilators, antibiotics,” and changed his diet like you refer to with your older child, and went on to be MVP at the state playoffs, as a six foot three baseball player. The reason I want to connect those dots, is that I have done this with my listeners many times. That is, to harken back to grad school, when I was studying to be a healer. I was exposed to the Wounded Healer Theory, and we have seen this with many of our interviews, that someone’s passion that led to a career, that led to a love of helping others into high vibrations started with devastation and terrible health consequences for you, or someone that you cared for. The Wounded Healer Theory is that, the best healers are those who have been deep in sorrow, in illness, and their triumph, their overcoming has led them to a career of brilliance in helping others to high vibrations. How do you feel about that?

Teri Cochrane:                      Well, now I’m getting goose bumps because, when you told me about your son, that’s the preface of my upcoming book. I mean, they have literally led parallel lives, Robyn. So yes, absolutely.

Robyn O:                                  By the way, my son is 23.

Teri Cochrane:                      Oh my gosh. That is just a beautiful thing. Because again, there are no coincidences. I do believe in that. I believe that my son, and then my daughter, we my greatest teachers, and they guided me. You know the Wounded Healer, because as parents, the worst thing that you can tell us is there something wrong with our children.

Robyn O:                                  Because we will go to the mat, and we will be a mama tiger, and we will do anything to save them, right?

Teri Cochrane:                      Absolutely. That’s the thing. When I was told this, I said, “No way.” My daughter several years later, after I got my son better, botched wisdom tooth extraction, septic to the brain, almost died. 12 hours had I waited and done what the doctor said to do, which was wait until the morning for her to be seen, she would have died. It was one of those mother’s instincts, and I drove her to UVA Hospital, because we were on vacation, and they told me, “She had 12 hours, had we waited.” So-

Robyn O:                                  So, what you learned with your son, may have later saved your daughter.

Teri Cochrane:                      Absolutely. And with my daughter actually, this is when I really got into vibrational resonance, because the life-threatening sepsis, the medicine that saved her life, clindamycin, created c-diff, and then she’s a pre-professional ballerina, was poisoned at a ballet conservatory nine months later, and almost died from liver shock. After that, all of her genes were expressed, and I took her to the best practitioners. This time, all over the country. Because, she became super, super endocrine-disrupted, she was passing out, her body temperature was 95, she started losing her hair, she stopped mensing, her insulin were in double digits, close to triple digits. She was a mess, and it led me down to the world and the road of how certain trauma to the body expresses genes. We use now, applied Kinesiology, which is all vibration to discern not only what the individual’s genes polymorphisms are, but have they been expressed. So, very cool. So, I live in the world of vibration on a daily basis with my clients, using my method through applied Kinesiology to discern what’s going.

Robyn O:                                  Well, I have seen your gorgeous dancer daughter on Facebook, and been watching her. Even seen some little videos of her dancing. She is astonishingly talented. You’re doing a great job. Aren’t you a single mom?

Teri Cochrane:                      Yes, I am.

Robyn O:                                  Yeah. I mean, against great odds with great challenges, we can do amazing things, and we can empower families, and we can turn around scary things. C-diff is no joke. Right?

Teri Cochrane:                      Yes, exactly.

Robyn O:                                  So Kinesiology, that is energy medicine at its finest, that’s when we start with diagnostics. Lots of people are scornful of it. Especially standard-of-care medicine, but you know, you can get actually, an advanced degree in applied Kinesiology. Talk about Kinesiology. What is it doing? How is it useful to you as a practitioner? And, just defined it.

Teri Cochrane:                      I love it, because it gets us to the nuance of that individual, and we talk about applied kinesiology is the MRI in the wild, because we’re using the electric magnetic signature and the vibrational resonance of, let’s say, “A staff or alias,” which is contained within a water particle, that emits an electromagnetic frequency, as we emit an electromagnetic frequency. So, when I ask my clients to hold that vial in their hand, and I touch them in two different places, I am creating a circuit. If that circuit is out of alignment of vibration with that individual, the circuit breaks and they have no muscle tone. I work with professional athletes. I’m a small woman, I weigh less than 120 lbs, that they could throw me with their pinky, and it’s like their crytonite because, it literally breaks the circuit and they have no muscle strength.

I’ve developed my own methodology of Applied Kinesiology, because the standard methodologies, you look at one meridian. Well, I decided to ask the body to tell me what was going on, so I look at different organ systems, and compare them to that specific whatever. Because for example, we know that viruses like to hide, and the Epstein-Barr favors the thyroid. But sometimes, it’s down in the cervical spine, or sometimes it’s found in the pancreas, and if I just checked in one location, I may miss that for that client. So, developing my own methodology really gets to what we call, “The true of you,” is what is their truth in real-time. What is that body telling us in real time? Then, we use my other methodology to develop this bio-individual plan, which is supplemental as well as nutritional, to rebalance the imbalance.

Robyn O:                                  Okay. So, if you’re listening, and you’re hearing, “Applied Kinesiology,” and it doesn’t mean anything to you, you have probably seen people in the functional world, the natural holistic medicine world, use muscle testing. She’s talking about the science of … well, the lay term for it is muscle testing. Although a lot of people kind of rolled her eyes at it, it’s becoming so clear that the body signals can tell a practitioner something that doesn’t involve putting them in a tube and radiating them. So, I love that. The MRI in the wild. The first time I was exposed to it, I was at some trade show, and I was walking around, and a chiropractor had me get my cell phone out of my energy field. This is like 2008, so we’re literally talking 10 years ago. He had me hold my arm up, and he said, “Hold your arm strong, and I’m going to apply some pressure.” He pressed on my arm, and my arm did not collapse at all. Then he said, “Now, get your cell phone,” and then I held my cellphone in the other hand, held my arm strong just like before, and he applied the same amount of pressure, and my arm collapsed. It collapsed against my side and that was my, “Ah-ha” moment. I kind of gasped, and I was like, “What just happened there?”

It was a blind test, in that I didn’t know what he was doing, so it’s not like I could have created that. You could argue that he pressed harder the second time, but I have played with this so many times. In fact, Chad’s her. He does our film, and he does out podcast, and he’s listening here by me. I had his wife come. I said don’t don’t tell her anything, what we’re doing. I didn’t even tell him what we were doing. I had her do the same, and she was holding their little baby Oliver. I think he was maybe 6 months at the time. So, I took her cell phone out of the room, and I muscle test her, and then I handed cell phone to her. She was strong without it, and I brought it in the room and put it in her other hand, which she was holding Oliver in, and her arm was very weak against the same pressure. You’ve seen this be super valuable to you, to help you understand if a substance, a supplement, a food, a thought is helpful or harmful to a person. Is that the idea? Tell us more.

Teri Cochrane:                      Absolutely. What’s so incredible, is that we have a lot of our clients go out and do genetic analysis, and that 23&Me is a big part of that. We can corroborate that analysis through our own internal analysis, and what we have found to a person, the muscle testing corroborates the landmen polymorphisms. But, the muscle testing goes one step further, because we say that genes are just potential, they’re not your destiny. Just because you have the gene, doesn’t mean it’s been expressed. So what we find is, through the muscle testing, is that it tells us if that gene is currently expressed against the person’s favor. So, it really helps to get a nuance approach. For example, the reason why I love this muscle testing, and the way that I have adapted it in the practice, is that for example, let’s say, “Somebody is impaired in their ability to create digestive enzymes.” Clearly, you would think a practitioner would say, “Well, you need digestive enzymes.”

But, then we actually test the supplement against the body, and the body is not ready. For example, if the body has a significant irritation in the lower colon, even though digestive enzymes are indicated from a pancreatic perspective, that body is not ready to receive that digestive enzyme, because digestive enzymes by their nature, break things down, and their digestive lining is already too broken down. So, not yet, not now. We have to build that digestive lining up, and then use the digestive enzymes when that person is ready. So, it clearly helps us to get to that nuance, “What is best for you now?”

Robyn O:                                  Okay. This is fascinating because, we back up just a second, I want to make clear what Teri is saying here. Is that her muscle testing or applied Kinesiology, corresponded one-to-one with what she finds in a patient with 23&Me genetic testing. Now, 23&Me genetic testing is pretty hard coded. It’s highly legitimized. It’s telling you what your genetic expression is, what your mutations might be, what genetic factors you have that might put you at risk for different things. So what she’s saying here, and you can correct me if I’m wrong, is that, muscle testing and landmen are highly syncronis. You find, that they work really well together. Based on that, you could find that something we might think is good for everyone, like let’s say, “A really natural organic herb,” it’s not through muscle testing you discover that, that’s a bad herb, it’s that you find out that it’s good or bad at that time for that patient. Right?

Teri Cochrane:                      That is exactly right.

Robyn O:                                  Okay. So, that’s really interesting because, I want to go sideways here about the landmen genetic testing. It’s just blowing up right now, everybody wants to get their landmen done. They’re not the only company delivering these kinds of results, but they are probably the biggest one out there. There’s so much buzz about it. You know, there’s these genetic mutations or genetic markers, that everybody is quite preoccupied with these days. Like the MTHFR, and everybody’s building all these treatments around whether you can methylate B-Vitamins, and what this means for your ability to detoxify. What’s interesting about it, is that over 90% of people have a 25%, or 50%, or 75% MTHFR. So really, most of us have an issue with this. I just want people to put this in context, and I’m gonna ask Teri to help put it in context.

Let me give you another example Teri, is that one of our colleagues no longer with us, went through a lot of cancer treatment, and went through multiple rounds of chemotherapy and radiation, because she had the BRCA1 Gene, and she believed that there was nothing that holistic medicine could offer her, because she has a BRCA1. That’s the Angelina Jolie mutation, about 60% of women who have it and up eventually at some point, they could be 80 or 110, over 60% of them eventually get breast cancer or ovarian cancer. Her conclusion was, “There’s nothing I can do in the world of holistic or functional medicine, because I have this gene.” Will you speak to that?

Teri Cochrane:                      Oh, absolutely. Well, back to our mantra of, “Genes are just potential. They do not have to be our destiny.” Genes, much like a light switch, can be turned on and off. So, the cornerstone and the foundation of the way that I practice functional nutrition and integrative health is that, we figure out one, if the gene has been expressed, and two, what expressed it, and three, how to de-express it. Say for example, I have a wonderful story. The root of my whole discovery around and amyloids, which are mis-folded proteins, was that I was dealing with a gentleman who had amyloidosis. Amyloids are truncated proteins, and in his case, the amyloid had turned to cancer, and these truncated proteins were around his heart. Two rounds of chemo had put him into congestive heart and kidney failure. He came to me with an oxygen tank in a wheelchair, and they had given him his last rites. As I research what amyloids were, because this is a rare thing, I started making the connection of, “Oh my goodness. There are certain foods in our food supply, that actually feel the production of amyloids.”

There are certain pathogens, such as strep, and candida, and staph, and even parasites that feed the production of pathogens. And then we muscle tested him, and found out that this individual had a down regulation of the cytochrome p450 family of genes, meaning he was not a good detoxifier. He had impaired methylation, meaning that he did not have the methyl donors necessary to break down protein, or make hydrochloric acid, which is necessary to kill the pathogens. And, he had impaired sulfur processing mechanism, which is another huge detoxification pathway, and with that impaired sulfur processing, you calcify. So what we did is, we created a bio-individualized plan that stopped feeding the amyloid formation, therefore the Wildatarian needs, because we know that they tend to have less amyloids. We stopped feeding him the p-protein that he was being given every day, because P is a mycotoxin, which we now know.

I called him a fire starter, that can elicit mycotoxins, which then feed the strep and candida, and so forth, and we stopped feeding him very healthy foods like sulfur, which is the kale and the broccoli. In doing that, we were able to turn off the genes that had been turned on, and within three months, his light chains, which is a cancer marker, were almost down to normal. He then, was able to restart the chemo in a much stronger place, and he now almost 4 years later is cancer-free.

Robyn O:                                  Wow. So, this is an important point. Because, with all this genetic testing, and food sensitivity testing, I think that people who are young in their journey think that when they find that out, “Oh, broccoli is bad for you,” and they kind of tell people that, and it gets spread around on the internet, can he digest those really powerful healing foods now? Can you move past those issues?

Teri Cochrane:                      Absolutely. What we say is, “You have a respectful relationship with those foods, because that’s the whole part of nutrition called nutrigenomix, which is how certain foods express genes.” One of my hashtags is, #HEALANDSEAL, and you can eat rocks. So, if you have enough integrity in your gut biomes, then those food that are less than great for us, can still be part of the bounty of our nutritional repertoire. We’re just not gonna eat them every day, and we’re not gonna eat them in a juice, which is straight to the system. We’re gonna dance respectfully with them, but it doesn’t mean we have to always and forever say, “Goodbye.” It’s just, in his case, it was not then for him, because it was expressing a gene that was stopping a detoxification pathway, and supporting the calcification, which then created the buildup of the amyloids, which have a protein structure, and then a bio-film. So yes, I have a sulfur processing mechanism issue, and I eat sulfur foods.

Now, do I eat them every day all day, and in my green juice? No. But, do I enjoy them? Absolutely.

Robyn O:                                  Well, you’ve said a lot there. I think if I centralized this here, would you say that genetics are important and being able to discover more about our own issues in our genetics, or I should say our genome actually, are a great clue that leads to great individualized treatment if you’re working with a really good functional practitioner with you, but they’re not the whole story?

Teri Cochrane:                      Exactly. It’s just one other piece of information, and how that piece of information is playing relative to their current state of health.

Robyn O:                                  Okay. You talked about amyloids and how they are folded proteins, or truncated proteins. Can you talk to us, a minute about that, and what does that have to do with the regular person listening, and how’d you get to the bottom of that, and does this affect most of us?

Teri Cochrane:                      Well, this is really fascinating, and I’m really excited to be sharing this, what I believe is groundbreaking information. My client zero, with this amyloidosis really started me down this path of really understanding what amyloids are. And I have on my staff, she’s a genetics researcher that used to work at the National Institutes of Health. She’s my in-house scientist, and I’m always sicking her out on, “Go find the medical literature that’s out there, based on the clinical bridges that I’ve sort of put in my mind together through just are my own client understanding.” So, she goes out and finds the literature that supports my thesis. What we’re finding is that, amyloids are now contributing to over 50 of our major health conditions in our country, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, kidney disease, type 1 diabetes, autoimmune conditions, and the list goes on and on.

So, the reason why this is so critical, is that we have become what I believe, a protein malabsorbed society. So, proteins are one of our macronutrients. They are the essential building blocks for are tendons, our ligaments, are hormones, and so when we take in a protein, let’s say a protein of a really happy cow, ideally what our body would do is, we would use our digestive enzymes and our hydrochloric acid to unpack those proteins into amino acids, which are the building blocks. Then, those amino acids go through our intestinal barrier, and then the body repacks those amino acids, forming new proteins, to do what our bodies need to make those hormones, and tendons, and ligaments, and so forth. Unfortunately, what’s happening is, the way that we have raised our animals, and there’re studies out of Cambridge and Japan that show that in particular, chicken and beef, because of the crowding conditions, are now creating amyloids, which of these truncated protein structures, which can’t be unpacked to make other proteins for use by our body, and they’re starting to build stuff in our body. So, when these animals have these Amyloids, we eat them and then guess what? We now are eating amyloids in digestible proteins.

What do we do with protein that can’t be digested? We wear them. That’s why amyloids are plaques. We see amyloid plaques in the pancreas, as type 1 diabetes, amyloid plaques in the brain, and so it can either be systemic or it can be tissue-specific. The work of Stephanie Seneff, who was an MIT … I believe she’s a biochemist, she is really blowing the whistle on why this has become such an epidemic. She has linked it and I agree with her, and I’ve had the pleasure of having deep dialogue with her, to the Round-Up. It’s one of the elements in the Round-Up, that creates a deleterious effect on our body that stops our ability to process proteins, because the body thinks it’s getting an amino acid. I’m getting really nerdy here, but it thinks it’s making amino acids that help digest proteins when it’s not, and actually turns off the signaling mechanism to create the digestive enzymes we need, to break down the protein. And, it stops the ability to process sulfur, which calcifies and also then leaks the gut.

We are protein malabsorbed, and we gotta wake up to this because, it’s creating a real problem as it [inaudible 00:26:36] to vaccines. When we vaccinate our kids and we’re putting live viruses, which are proteins in the body, and we’re protein malabsorbed, we’re gonna be in trouble.

Robyn O:                                  Okay. You talked about vaccines being proteins we can’t use. The body reacts to them, causes all kinds of problems. There’s many problems with vaccines, the way we’re currently administering them. But, I want to ask you this question. You said that we have become a protein malabsorbed society. Wow. So, what do you think this means, that so many people, especially in several most recent fad diets, are over eating meat products, combined with this epidemic of gut issues?

Teri Cochrane:                      It’s a real problem. It’s a real problem, and that’s why I developed my whole Wildatarian protocol, because I discovered that if we lived like nature intended, eating the wild game, which were much lower in amyloid formation, much higher in the omega-3 fatty acids, much more easily digestible proteins, those things can be unpacked into the amino acids that we need, which will then be repacked to make the proteins that our bodies need to create all those things that I previously mentioned. Also, if we ate the low mycotoxin Foods, they’re metabolites of fungi found in corn, and in soy, and peanuts of course, which then leak the gut further, we’re not stressing a body already stressed, and then sulfur of course, being a real big deal right now. Again, that’s another reason I think we’re become sulfur malabsorbed, is because of the life estate that’s stopping our body’s ability to convert sulfur to sulfate, needed for hormones, and endocrine system, and mental health, and so many more things. Ligaments, and tendons, and our collagen matrix.

So, it’s very, very important that we revisit what our protein is doing to us, because of the amyloids. Again, with the studies that we’ve uncovered, beef and chicken in particular. So, what I do know Robyn, is when we put my clients, and I see very complex cases from multiple sclerosis, to end stage cancer, to type 1 diabetes, to infertility, to ankylo spondylosis, you-name-it. Some conditions I can barely pronounce, they get better, and they stay better.

Robyn O:                                  Well it seems so over simplified when people say, “The answer to anything is the answer to everything,” but don’t you feel like there’s like 80 spokes out from that hub of that wheel, that these root causes of, you’ve mentioned several, are causing so many … It’s like there’s an explosion of different names for diagnoses, and people hang on these diagnoses as if their symptom is the problem, when really you’ve touched on a lot of the issues. You mentioned glyphosate, and in case anybody doesn’t know what glyphosate is my friends, that is Round-Up. That is Round-Up, that we now sprayed half a billion tons of it on the world’s plants, in our ground water, it’s in our air. So, let’s really geek out now. This is what I’m just giddy to hear about from you, is that you’ve developed this Wildatarian lifestyle, and this has everything to do with vibrational resonance or increasing your frequency. You are on to it when it comes to what this has to do with the vibration of the organism. So, talk about your Wildatarian lifestyle.

Teri Cochrane:                      The Wildatarian lifestyle, is living as nature intended and we are Phi. We are that vibrational mathematical sequencing of the golden mean. Our brain is that mathematical sequencing, which is Fibonacci. You look at our geometric pattern from our wrist to our arm, our face is all vibration. So, we are literally sacred geometry in a pattern. When that pattern is interrupted by glyphosate, or by a staph infection, or by an emotional trauma, which carries a vibrational frequency, or a physical trauma that interrupts the pattern, our pattern is broken and we get out of balance.

Robyn O:                                  So, we are organized in a brilliant pattern of energies, that you describe as the Fibonacci sequence, which goes all the way back to who?

Teri Cochrane:                      Fibonacci, I believe he was a 15th century mathematician that discovered, that there is in nature, there is a pattern that goes on into infinity. It’s the two previous numbers create the next number. So, 1, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21 and so forth. There’s a study out of Germany, that shows that the microtubules in our brain, which are considered like mini quantum computers, are the Fibonacci sequencing. My scientist just discovered, that inside the mitochondria within the water, it’s Fibonacci. Our neurotransmitters are Fibonacci. That pattern I believe, and I’ve seen, becomes interrupted through those previous interrupter, as if you will, of trauma to that pattern. When the pattern breaks, what I believe Robin, I haven’t been able to prove this scientifically, but one day I hope I can.

The body is naturally brilliantly intelligent, and it’s looking to find a solution to the next sequence in the pattern. When it can’t, it starts looping because, it doesn’t have that feedback mechanism to say, “Oh, okay. I know that the next number will be whatever.” So, it becomes an equation that is unsolvable. That’s when the body starts becoming what I believe, autoimmune. It becomes hyper-vigilant, trying to seek an answer that is no longer answerable, because the pattern has been interrupted.

Robyn O:                                  You know, if I’ve ever heard anything that suggests that we are divine, that we are a miracle, that we are both complex and simple, majestic, phenomenal, you just described it. Do you have that same sense of the human body and spirit, and the way it all works together?

Teri Cochrane:                      I do. I mean, we are a divine brilliant machine, that happens to vibrate a molecular rate of speed that creates mass, and therefore we are in human form. But, when we are at our original divine pattern, our blueprint, it’s Phi, it’s Fibonacci. When we are in Fibonacci, guess what our DNA Helix is. Fibonacci. When our DNA Helix is working appropriately, we cannot be ill.

Robyn O:                                  Ooh, exciting. So the Fibonacci sequence is everywhere in nature. It is everywhere in the human body. So, how’s that going to help us in our lives?

Teri Cochrane:                      So, what I have found, again doing some more of my non-double blind studies, but through just empirical evidence. I was at a transformational leadership class earlier this year, and they gave us to watch, a very interesting little film clip. In the film clip, they showed electrons moving through a filter. As these electrons move through the filter, they were moving in lockstep. Then. They had somebody observe the electrons, and as those electrons were observed, the pattern of the electrons shifted. They started moving in a dancing pattern. So what I did is, I bridged the theory that well my goodness, we have Fibonacci in nature, as in the nautilus shell, or the sunflower seed, or rose petal, or a tree leaf, and so forth and so on. If we can shift patterning by observation outwardly, why can’t we shift patterning by observation inwardly?

So, by then having my clients observe the nautilus shell, which I have in my office, we are finding that, it’s recalibrating them energetically, and that staff, which they failed, they passed after being what I now called … I’m now coining it a verb, Fibonaccid. After being Fibonaccid, they now pass that, because they’re back into their original divine patterning. This has potentially huge ramifications. Now the trick is, staying in that divine patterning. What happens is, when we go back into our old life, we’re going to go back into old patterns, and those old patterns may not be serving our highest purpose. So, the goal is to establish new and beautiful divine patterns in everything that we do. When we do that, we will, I believe, re-encrypt cellular memory. I believe Robin, that this is what happened to my son. That by eliminating the foods as he was growing, and really helping him with the foods that were healing, his body would have a new cellular memory. I thought about this many, many years ago, but now I’m really seeing it as a result of, he’s re-patterned into his original pattern, and does [inaudible 00:36:44] whatever he wants, and he’s doing great. So, I really believe that this is possible.

I know this is a very broad statement, but I do believe it’s possible because, we are all energy and vibration. It’s so interesting. One of my clients, who happens to be a really good friend of mine, came in as my last client last Friday. He’s a wonderful engineer, Duke graduate, and we started talking about vibration. He said, “Teri, they are now in Germany, discovering that every virus, every pathogen, has its own specific vibration, just like everything on the planet.” That vibration is out of alignment with us, and when we are out of alignment with us, because our thoughts create a wave pattern, which create an outcome in our body, when we’re being in the less than, and they’ve done studies I believe that of University of Pennsylvania, say that when we are entertaining negative thought patterns, we were lower our immunity by up to 50% to up to five hours. So, when we are out of our divine element, out of our vibe, you know this beautiful Einsteinium Theory with your book, which I am so thrilled that you have written, that’s when we get sick.

So, if we can be in alignment with our highest and best self, which is our divine original patterning, I don’t believe we can intersect with the vibration of that which is less than, which are the pathogens or the glyphosates, or the mutant gluten as I call it in America.

Robyn O:                                  Or, the cutting ourselves for cosmetic surgeries, the scarring, the replay Loops that we’re on with our negative emotions that we don’t resolve so many things. Right?

Teri Cochrane:                      Yes, absolutely.

Robyn O:                                  Well, I’m completely inspired about how finding ways to connect again to our natural patterns, and our energies that we were really born with, is just so important. Let’s take this from the scientific and philosophical, down to really practical. Tell us about some of the details of what you help people get back to their natural biorhythms, with the Wildatarian lifestyle. What does that look like in daily life?

Teri Cochrane:                      In daily life, it’s very, very doable. We say, “You can be wild any place, any space, and at any age.” So, it’s really in living into a mindset of abundance, because when people are asked to eat a different way, most often than not, they immediately start thinking about a deprivation approach. What we say is, “This is not deprivation, this is substitution, and you’re going to have foods that are so yummy to your palate, and are going to be more broad on your kitchen table, than you’ve ever known before.” The average American I think, consumes the same 10 meals over, and over, and over again. We teach them how to eat differently, how to eat wild game, such as Venison, and wild boar, and New Zealand lamb, and wild caught fish.

If you want to be a plant-based Wildatarian, then we teach them to eat with the legumes that are low mycotoxin, that they’re not going to elicit that fire starter of the strep and candida, and the nuts and seeds similar. Then, the Wildatarian grains, that are not only gluten free, but are low mycotoxin, because we now know corn is replaced wheat as a grain of choice for those that are gluten free. But, guess what? More than 80% of corn is genetically modified, and corn has mycotoxins, meaning that it has a metabolites of fungi, which are again, a fire starter.

Robyn O:                                  Yeah. That corn too, the vast majority of it is genetically modified, and we don’t fully know yet, what the effect is on the human organism. But, we see lots of signs that is it is unnatural and the body reacts to it, and a lot of the other replacement grain of choice is rice. If it’s not organic, it is generally grown downwind of Fukushima out of China, and then we’re dealing with heavy metals. So, just because it’s gluten-free doesn’t mean it’s healthy, right?

Teri Cochrane:                      Exactly. So, these Wildatarian grains are those grains that don’t, again strike a match to our DNA, to our Fibonae patterning, and we are all bio-individual. So, the way that the Wildatarian approach is geared, is that you will take a quiz, and it’ll tell you which type of Wildatarian you are. I’ve developed four major archetypes. We have the basic low amyloid Wildatarian, we have a low sulfur Wildatarian, we have a low fat Wildatarian, and we have a low sulfur, low fat Wildatarian. The reason why fat has become an issue of late as well, is because of our stress response, we now know that epinephrine, which is a neural hormone, which is a fat, when we over secrete epinephrine, it leaks our gut, and we become fat malabsorbed. Not only does epinephrine leak our gut and we become fat malabsorbed, but again, we have found the scientific literature that shows, that this little sucker, our stress hormone literally turns on the pathogenicity of any other bacteria or virus that we may have otherwise hanging out happily in our system, which I called the UN. ‘Cuz, we’re gonna be living commencely with these viruses and bacteria. Our gut is made up of trillions of these little suckers, and as long as everybody’s playing nice, and it’s the UN, nobody’s going to start a war. But when we are over stressed, it’s our fire starter. Therefore, we become fat malabsorbed, therefore we can’t process fats anymore, and our stress has literally turned on the lights to all these pathogens. The literature shows, that the most common denominator of a reactivation of a virus, is stress.

Robyn O:                                  So, where can we learn more about your four types?

Teri Cochrane:                      Well, I’m launching a new website, and as you take the quiz on my website, based on the way you answer the quiz, you’re going to figure out which Wildatarian you are. Then, the book that is coming out in the first quarter of 2018, really speaks to this whole philosophy. Then, we’re going to have a corollary program, that takes you through a rebalancing phase, and then a maintenance phase of becoming your best wild self.

Robyn O:                                  Okay. So, you’re getting ready to launch it. So, if we air this episode before your quiz to identify, which of the four Wildatarian types you are, in case we air this before then, they better follow you. So, where can we find Teri Cochrane?

Teri Cochrane:                      Well, you can find me on the web at I also have Teri Cochrane Beyond Nutrition in my professional Facebook page. I’m also on Twitter and Instagram. We’re getting ready to go on Tumblr. So, I’m pretty much anywhere on social media, and we love sharing our nerddom with you all. Because, we feel that information is empowering, and it is freeing.

Robyn O:                                  All right. So, it’s Teri Cochrane. So, any quick words of wisdom, actionables to live a higher vibration life? It’s one of my favorite questions, is a few quick actionables for anybody at home, doesn’t have time to get any expensive equipment, what can we do to live in the higher vibes?

Teri Cochrane:                      I think that the best thing you can do is, know that the thought creates the thing. If we’re living out thoughts of gratitude, and joy, and compassion, we will live a higher vibrational resonance, which makes the thing go away. So, we’re only as good as our limiting beliefs. I urge all of my clients. They tell me, “I give them hope.” What I just share with them, is “I’m just giving you a remembering of what your body’s innate divine patterning has always been. I just pinged you in a way, that made you remember so, be grateful for that, because we all have the possibility to live that out.” One of my hashtags is, “Nothing is impossible.” I really state this because, we’ve taken people that were told you will never be, “X,” my son included, and they defied that. So, the thought creates the thing, so think great thoughts and your thing will be beautiful.

Robyn O:                                  And the thing goes away. She’s referring to the symptom, the thing that’s frustrating you, the thing that has you stuck. But also as you resolve these things, you’re also literally resonating at a higher frequency, and you’re attracting more opportunity, you’re attracting better people, you’re attracting health and better outcomes. I think that Terry Cochrane is a total inspiration. Thank you my dear for being with us.

Teri Cochrane:    Such a great pleasure. Thank you.



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  1. I eat only organic GMO free corn chips. Is that alright?

    1. Helen Blair says:

      Hi Rika, Certainly organic (which automatically makes it GMO free) is better than not, but it is still processed foods – organic junk food. So keep it minimal and consider making fresh corn chips from scratch using whole grain flour.

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