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[–]Ghost-Quartet 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Cool read, I had no idea that she had been performing the song before it officially debuted so it's really interesting to see the genesis of it.

[–]sapphire1921 46 points47 points  (15 children)

Tomorrow we'll truly find out if the GP are here for 'Camila' or just 'Havana'...

To be continued ... 👀

edit: In the end, I bought 1 5H song and it was only because I liked Camila's verses that much. They were intriguing. Her voice had flavour and texture. (IILWAM)

[–]Pyrozooka0 19 points20 points  (7 children)

We already have an answer. It’s called Bad Things and it peaked at #3.

[–]sapphire1921 4 points5 points  (6 children)

She was a feature, and that song faded out quick!

[–]Pyrozooka0 29 points30 points  (4 children)

I’d say she gets the credit given that MGK’s follow up flopped super fucking hard.

[–]rupull_[S] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

And also let’s be real people only tuned in for that song because of Camila’s part

[–]Spikekuji 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The video was hot.


camilas wrath

[–]StarlordPunk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And because MGK sucks


MGK put it on his album, but they were credited equally. It's MGK and Camila, not ft. Camila.

[–]rupull_[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I have a kind of dumb question really dumb question uhh what does GP stand for ?

[–]sapphire1921 7 points8 points  (1 child)

general public 🎨

[–]rupull_[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks I though it was like the greater people or something lol


I HATED Camila in 5H, her voice was so shrill and sharp it ruined many of their songs.

However, I like what she’s been able to do with her voice while going solo. She’s able to flex what range she has without it going shrill, for the most part at least.

What I truly love about her is that she really wants to make it in the industry. Her work ethic is very admirable in a time where people rely only on viral hits and little promo. I might not like her personality but damn do I respect her hustle.

She’ll end up bigger than I ever expected her to be. Havana deserved to be a hit.

[–]irthesteve 9 points10 points  (7 children)

I still think it can get #1

[–]rupull_[S] 15 points16 points  (6 children)

I highly doubt it because of Perfect and Havana and Rockstar starting to lose steam. Not to mention Him & I being over Havana in the iTunes charts and Halsey all around being on the come up. Also End Game is going to be the next #1 after Perfect MMW. AND with Christmas coming up it would be super weird to have it peak at #1. But she has proved everyone wrong at the start of her career and I can only hope she proves me wrong. but yeah I highly doubt it :/

[–]Jackthommy99 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm quite surprised with Halsey's performance this year. Following Closer, I was expecting a bit of a disconnect. But it's worked quite nicely for her.

[–]YxxngCarter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Actually I think if Havana manages not to fall off quickly it will have another one chance when her album drops.

[–]irthesteve 1 point2 points  (2 children)

[–]rupull_[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

BITCH I AM CLUTCHING MY PEARLS, I would be so gagged if it does omg. Should I repost this if it does idek what to do?!?!

[–]irthesteve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She did it!

[–]Jackthommy99 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]angusaditus 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This was a great read! It's interesting how the pre-chorus of Never Be The Same has also changed a bunch, I'm excited to see which one she decided on for the studio version. I'm thinking maybe there'll be an explicit one with "heroine", it really is my fave version but I get why she would scap it

[–]231xo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean as long as it's not "just like nicotine nicotine WOOWEEE" ... i'm fine

[–]justiceisrad 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ok cool, but that isn’t techno during the chorus. You should look up what techno is. The chorus here has more trap influence.

[–]rupull_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re totally right! I will fix that thanks

[–]J_U_A_N 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hey there, this is the kind of great stuff we're looking for over at /r/popproduction

Feel free to cross post it over there too!

[–]rupull_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I will do that really soon

[–]pastaandpizza 1 point2 points  (0 children)


I had no idea she was preforming this so long ago!

[–]joshually 8 points9 points  (30 children)

i don't like her, and i think Havana is the most basic of songs expertly and finely cultivated to pander and be as universal as possible and ride it out for success, but even I have to admit she's going to be "the beyonce of the group" as much as it pains me to type these words.

she's not the most talented, the most appealing, or the one with the most star-power, but for some reason, she became The Chosen One, and because of that backing, she will be successful come hell or highwater

[–]rupull_[S] 19 points20 points  (7 children)

It’s weird how she really was even way back when they were on The X Factor and when they used to go by 1432 (how cringy was that?) Demi made it known to them that Camila was the star of the group, no if’s and’s or but’s and even went as far as to ask Camila herself if she thought she was the star of the group. So yeah you are totally right she quite literally is “The Chosen One”

[–]LittlestCandle 43 points44 points  (1 child)

omg and now camila's outcharting Demi, I need a moment

[–]joshually 24 points25 points  (0 children)

anything could happen anything could happen!

[–]joshually 10 points11 points  (4 children)

when they used to go by 1432

I preferred LYLAS tbh lol

[–]rupull_[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

OH GOD... Thank Jesus for Simon seeing their potential and managing them after the X factor, imagine how cringe some of their songs or song names would have been.

[–]joshually 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Didn’t Little Mix go through a similar naming travesty jorney??

[–]rupull_[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I think they were named Rythmix and almost got sued by a band with that name already so yeah but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as 1432 or LYLAS

[–]breannamation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it was actually a charity (of all things) that sued them

[–]sapphire1921 11 points12 points  (11 children)

What makes 'Havana' basic?

[–]joshually 14 points15 points  (0 children)

it's a pintura-por-numeros latin-lite 100 bpm Zumba class cool down song

[–]Unicorntamales 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m sure it’s revolutionary for gringos but....

The oh na na’s in the chorus, having a similar piano beat to Same Old Love, and featuring an American rapper that has nothing to do with the song.

[–]Lex_Cavill 7 points8 points  (2 children)

She was "chosen" by fans. I think that speaks enough as to her being talented, appealing, and having star-power.

[–]joshually 12 points13 points  (0 children)

She was "chosen" by fans

mostrarme los recibos por favor

[–]LittlestCandle 4 points5 points  (0 children)


not that I don't think that Camila is talented, but fans don't decide this.

[–]LittlestCandle 3 points4 points  (2 children)

lmao do you remember when the 5H girls covered Anytime You Need a Friend and Camila absolutely BUTCHERED it

to be fair, Dinah and Normani didn't do too hot either. But Camila was just SO SO BAD in that performance.

[–]Pyrozooka0 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She’s came a long way, I’ll admit that.

[–]LittlestCandle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

don't take it the wrong way, I love Camila

[–]Number3rdInTheVoting 2 points3 points  (1 child)

NORMANI DESERVES ALL THIS SUCCESS if only she had better vocals


Listen to her covers on YouTube sis. Your mind will be blown. When she goes solo I'm gunning for her to release a critically acclaimed record so that she can be the next Sza/Solange


I agree, the song is a smasher but I feel like Camila could've done a lot more with the lyrics/vocals given the masterful instrumental

[–]231xo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Havana is everything but basic. Don't confuse it with other latin hits. All the other latin songs that are successful right now are fully reggaeton while Havana uses a classic cuban piano beat which is totally different and it was a risk to chose to make it a single because it's not like the other songs on the radio right now. Also, she will (hopefully) be successful not because of the "backing" but because she's the most hard working artist in the industry right now (not my words) and she's truly passionate about this and deserves everything that she's been achieving lately.

[–]orcinovein 0 points1 point  (1 child)

OP, how did you leave out the MTV EMA performance? Her best performance by far. I don't know if you can call yourself a stan.


[–]rupull_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was going to ! But I wanted to keep the links within YouTube just to be mobile friendly and all the YouTube videos of it weren’t the best quality :/ (at least the ones that I found) I really wanted to have the “perfection” version of her performances to be great quality but I can definitely say that the MTV EMA performance is by far one of her best !

[–]ma-c -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting read, I just wish they wouldn't allow Young Thug near the track, the solo version is so much better. I guess mumbling second verse it is.