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  1. We are currently searching for a clean, stock '66 Fairlane Base car or 500 for for the Eyes on Design Concours show held in Metro Detroit at the historic old Edsel & Eleanor Ford Estate on Fathers Day. This is a fantastic event at a beautiful location, especially with all the top Ford guys who attend along with the Media folks. We have a special Feature Class showcasing stock cars vs their Muscle Car counterparts this year and have a gorgeous '66 GTA,.....but can not find a decent stock version to display with it. Tried the Fairlane club and local clubs, but can not find a base car anywhere around the area (MI, OH, IN, IL, PA, CAN, etc). Does ANYONE know of any around???? Thanks, .....Bill
  2. Thanks for taking the time to post the pics Wayne, very nice event. Really like the Simplex. Looks like it was great weather too.
  3. Very nice group of cars. Cool shots of some of the Muscle Cars especially. Thanks for spending the time to post the pics.
  4. In response to CXGVD,.... you definitely have me confused with someone else in regards to seeing me at a Windsor Cruise,.....I have never attended this event nor have I ever heard of it. In regards to raining on my car show, I personally do not put on a car show (though I help with them), and as for "sitting in a lawn chair behind my '20's car", we rarely ever sit! Now that that has been addressed...... As for my original post about other car events with a strong turnout of older cars, I was inquiring about enjoyable smaller events in scenic towns or locations people may NOT be aware of. It is a topic often brought up by car enthusiasts (about new places to go), and I thought someone may know of some and let everyone know. Concerning my '28, it is currently my only pre-war car and we use this for older car events primarily. It is a joy to drive! We have other cars for Cruises, Concours Events or local Car Shows, but like many folks, once in awhile it's fun to just hang out for a day. That is why I first inquired about other events folks may not know about.
  5. In reading some of these posts, AND a lot on other threads, it is very obvious that many folks are at a loss for more one day or weekend events catering to pre-war cars. Yes, there are a few of the older events (Hershey, Greenfield Village, Ypsilanti Orphan Owners show, Gilmore Museum, etc), but most of the smaller, localized events have given way to the later cars as several folks have commented. I have several friends in the Horseless Carriage Club, and I know how much folks enjoy Touring in older cars. But driving pre-war cars today longer distances that cruise comfortably in the 30-45 mph range is not as enjoyable as it used to be,....primarily with the modern generation of poor (and distracted) drivers who believe the posted speed limit is 'a starting point', the road is theirs, and that old cars (and people) belong in Museums, not on the road. Things have changed a lot, even in just the last 12-15 years, and it is probably only going to get worse. I know a lot of folks like myself look for enjoyable events to attend for a day (or 2) that allow us to park, look at cars, and hang out with other folks with older cars like ours. Does not have to be a certified classic, I have just as much fun looking at a Graham, Essex or Falcon Knight as a Peerless or Packard! Does not have to have a 5 acre swap meet either. That just makes me miss the show!!! Just a nice location to hangout, perhaps an old town with good food and a couple Antique shops for the gals to enjoy. Perhaps limited to pre-war era cars, or at least pre 1949 timeframe. No stress of Judging, perhaps a few popular vote awards for various groupings if anything. What a cool yearly event that would be, especially in a good location (for me that would be within a day drive from MI.). Hey,....Just Thinkin!! As we get older, that's what we do.
  6. I have heard of the Kingston Tour. There are several Tours on the map where the older cars actually go on the road 'Touring', some of which are for pre late '20's cars, but we're still looking for car shows. All day shows, hanging out with other old car guys, maybe some scenic stuff to see, shopping for the gals... whatever is there. Perhaps events in small towns which get a big turnout of pre-war cars?? Any others anyone knows of?
  7. Interesting sounding event Walt. A lot of folks with older cars look for events to go to. Thats what makes Greenfield Village so great, and some of the single mark events like the Packard or Graham national meets. It would be great if a few events focused on just pre-war cars. But these events DO NOT have to be just old cars I suppose to be good, but should have a large percentage of older vehicles in attendance. Most of the events now are for Muscle Cars, Rods and other 50's-80's cars , which fine in itself because most true car enthusiasts like everything (still have my 1st car, a '70 GTO), but you never see the older ones. So, just curious if there are any others out there??? Small historic town events, larger meets, anything!
  8. Recently in these Forums we have all read about Hershey being a huge event as we all know, and Greenfield Village's Old Car Festival being the nations largest and oldest event for pre-1932 cars, but where are other cool car shows that would cater largely to the pre-war crowd. There must be some old towns, festivals, other events (not Touring events) through-out the states that there are lots of old cars?!! Anyone know of any that have a good turnout of older cars that a car enthusiast would travel a few hours to attend? Being in Metro Detroit, we have some events at the Gilmore Museum, and the Sloan Museum, but the other 'hundreds' of events each summer are more for all cars. Here are a couple shots of Greenfield Village this year (cold and damp), awesome event with over 1000 cars, events, festivities. The 'coppers' nabbed me for trying to knock off the Wright Brothers shop, then took my Pontiac for their CHIEF. Dirty Rats!!!! Bill
  9. Best event of the year anywhere if you can handle over 1000 pre-1932 cars, and lots of enjoyable driving and festivities!!! Great to see Electric cars and steamers actually cruising. Here are a couple pics from this year (1st dark and cold one I have attended). Unfortunately, the 'Coppers' nabbed me as I was trying to knock off the Wright Brothers shop and 'confisamagated' my Pontiac to give to their 'CHIEF'. Dirty rats!!!
  10. In regards to the largest 'Antique' car show, I am not aware of any event getting over 1000 pre 1932 vehicles (truly 'Antique') like Greenfield Village's Old Car Festival. They have cut back on registrations a bit, but this is the Best of the Best for most participants AND spectators. Hershey is awesome, but these are not all 'Antique' cars either, unless you consider anything from the early eighties down as 'Antique'. As for the biggest Hot Rod event, yes the Street Rod Nationals is KING. Louisville and Columbus are both FANTASTIC events. IF by chance you want the biggest Car Event though.....the biggest Car Event in the world is also the biggest 'event' in the world. Bigger than the super bowl, bigger than the World Soccer Championship, even bigger than a Beatles Reunion Concert (with all original members mind you),....coming in at Number One is the world famous Woodward Dream Cruise!! 1.4 million people on average from all over the US, Canada and the World. Estimated 35-50,000 Classic, Muscle, modern Performance, Sports, Concept, Movie and Experimental cars every year (probably more). Yeah Yeah, I know, probably another 200,000 mini-vans, trucks and suv's. Lot's of traffic. But it IS considered by most to be one gigantic 20 mile (both ways) car show!! You have to enjoy the week before and the actual event day the right way....CRUISIN!! And have a car for it. Who loves sitting in a chair all day looking at tires rolling by when your car can be attached to the tires and you can see everything. I love Classic Cars, but I also love Hot Rods, Finned cars and Muscle Cars. Tell me it's not cool to be sitting at a traffic light and have the Monkee Mobile pull up next to you! Or the Munsters Koach race past pacing a blown Willy's Gasser! What true car nut would have NO interest in seeing a pre-production prototype Viper with probably 1400 HP. Maybe you would look twice at a GMC passenger van rolling by you,....UPSIDE DOWN (built a chassis in the roof). How about Linda Vaughn in an Olds pace car with the shifter platform, or Jay Leno in a GM Concept Vette, or Tim Allan in one of his cool cars. I don't know, but for me, thats pretty darn cool. But even if it's not your bag, can't argue the size! All car events are what you make them, so I try to enjoy them all. Bill
  11. Thanks Mike, sounds like that may help. These carbs are not to intricate, so I suppose they would not gunk up with a small amount as you describe. Are you talking about something like the Lucas Oil upper cylinder lubricant like they sell for fuel injector cars? Bill
  12. Hey Jon, thank you for your information. I am ok with not having an original carb, and I do know the problems with older materials as they all deteriorate over time. Interesting history on the carb companies though, thanks. I am still hopeful (though I understand your knowledge of these carbs) that there are parts available,.....someone rebuilt this unit back in the 90's. I believe there must be interchangeable parts that work in these for them to have done this, it is only logical. Nothing appears to have been custom made, not even the gaskets. We lost the only 2 'old' type carb companies locally who may have had an inventory of these older carb parts, like needle valves that I could compare mine to. I will figure this one out, may take time though. But thank you anyway for your time and insight. Bill
  13. Hi Guys, thanks for the input. The original carb was listed in the Pontiac books as a Carter. This carb does have a fuel pump circuit in it as the original did, and has always worked GREAT!! At some time, the past owner rebuilt this unit as it is still in great visual condition, so whomever did it for him was able to get parts somewhere for it. I gently vertically sanded the needle rubber with 6000 grit model car paper to smooth the slight indentation in the rubber caused from a lot of sitting, which caused it to stick shut to begin with. After putting it back in, the car starts and runs fine, but with events like The Old Car Festival at Greenfield Village still upcoming, I was hoping to find new parts to put in mainly for peace of mind. This peace of mind includes not getting hollered at by my significant other in the event of a break down! Not that THAT would ever happen on a 90 year old car I'm sure! Also, as mentioned, this is not the original carb. There are no stampings on the outside at all, probably had a decal as Jon stated, but there are the 2 numbers cast inside as stated above. Thanks for the info on the Borg Warner carbs. Jon, might there be some sort of kit or interchangeable parts for this unit? If I take it back off again, is there pictures, dimensions, detailed drawings,...anything I could send you or anyone you may recommend that would be of assistance in tracking down parts, mainly a needle valve? Thank you for your time and input. Bill
  14. OK, so the Tucker is not quite as old.....IT WAS GORGEOUS THOUGH!!! Bill
  15. Ron, your car looked beautiful at this years Eyes on Design. Though we had a really hot day, it was an outstanding event. The unique design of the Kissel body and the way the rear area of the top rolls was perfect for this type of an event, one which focuses on design. Here are a couple other pics of some of the other outstanding early cars. Bill