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[–]Rickys_HD_SPJs -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Which one was the tic tac?

[–]Max_Fenig 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, they had visual as well as radar and flir.

[–]Taco_Dave 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes. Fravor, his back seat weapons officer, and his wingman have all gone on the record saying that they actually observed the object with their own eyes.

[–]absolutelymedia 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What kind of question is this?

[–]B4tsh1ts4n3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is an even bigger mystery here though .. who is Master Bates ?

[–]Fat_Old-Sun 21 points22 points  (9 children)


Joe Rogan speaking with commander David Fravor. The guy was there. He was flying the jet. He watched this thing with his own eyes. This can't be disputed.

[–]WaitformeBumblebee 0 points1 point  (5 children)

And more important he didn't record it. The video is from a separate event.

[–]sakurashinken 0 points1 point  (4 children)

No, he did record it. There are 3 videos, the first is from 2004 Nimitz. The second and third are from 2014/15.

[–]PharaohhOG 0 points1 point  (3 children)

he actually didn't record it. He saw it with his eyes and tried to get closer when it flew away. Another squad of pilots picked up where it went and they went after it and that is the video we have from the 2004 encounter.

[–]sakurashinken 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No, there were 2 planes that saw it, and the radar operator on the princeton did as well. fravor's gunner was able to record the video you see from 2004, its the video on TTSA known as flir1. gimbal and gofast are from 2014/15 and are two separate incidents.

[–]PharaohhOG 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m aware of all the separate incidents. Go back and listen to the podcast, the flir1 recording was captured by another plane. Commander Fravers wizzo(his weapons operator)was a female he mentions multiple times the person who recorded the flir1 was by a man.

[–]sakurashinken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

then it was the other plane that saw it.

[–]RedBonePaganWingResearcher Believer Skeptic -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I'm Jesus can that be disputed?

[–]HitleryCunton666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes because I'm Jebus!

[–]AngryAlpaca_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That was a good interview. Fravor doesn't over embelish the story or try to sell people on some alien hype. It just sounds like he's speaking up because other pilots have seen these things and they want answers or inquiries into it.

[–]satago 24 points25 points  (7 children)

Yes. Multiples.

[–]TopCamp[S] 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Thank you. Just curious because skeptics keep referring back to radar glitches etc.

[–]Iloveturbocars_22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Those are not skeptics they are debunkers. A debunker starts with a conclusion and actively searches for data that only backs up that conclusion. They are similar to "believers".

[–]TapRackBangUSMC 13 points14 points  (2 children)

CMDR Fravor saw it with his naked eyes aside from radar. His Wingman did as well.

These UFOs were seen via radar through the span of two weeks straight before they were investigated.

[–]Anon2World 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Counting that the jets they are flying in are 2 seaters, with his winglady and other jets that went up into the air you can up the count to 6-8 pilots for the f-18 super hornets, eyes in the sky (seahawk) has 6+ people who visually saw it and probably 20+ deck crew looking through the "big eyes" binoculars. Not sure on how many other people saw it, but obviously the various ships involved had multiple witnesses.

[–]darkestsoul 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Have you seen the Joe Rogan interview with David Fravor? Fravor was the squadron commander for that group of fighters. I recommend you watch that whole thing.

[–]TopCamp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did yeah, I just couldn't remember if it was based on radar only.