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    • I think it was Oppenheiser that once wrote "I have become heft, destroyer of roads".

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      • Ok, maybe some didn't get the reference. Robert Oppenheimer, father of the original Atom bomb in 1945 quoted a Hindu text after the first successful test, "I have become death, destroyer of worlds". Get it? Oppenheiser/Oppenheimer?

      • Never explain your joke. It kills it.

        Yes, I got it, and immediately made the connection between the names as soon as I read the article.

    • I like the Camaro more than the Mustang. I am a Benz guy and a GM guy. I had the chance to drive a '13 Camaro LT.

    • One reason to post on a car website is because this place still has climate-change deniers. More enlightened places do not. It's like getting into a time machine and setting the dial for 1950. Do you american climate change deniers still have have sepatate water fountains for your races?

      But hero post goes to this person:

      "You take a brave but correct stand, considering this is a car site. Its only a matter of time before this generation dies out and takes their love of cars with them to the grave."

      Thank you person. It's good to know there are a few more like me! And I down vote the rest of you.

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      • So the climate is changing.....wow, imagine that.

        Wasn't the earth not covered with ice once upon a time ?

      • You're kind of a spaz, if I'm honest. 

        I don't think we have a lot of control over the climate, but I would like to see cleaner air in major metropolitan areas though. Regardless, it's not limited production cars like this that are the center of the problem, it's soccer moms in SUV's and lipstick lumberjacks commuting in heavy duty pickups.

        In short, your incessant whining is misplaced with the Camaro Z28.

      • There is every kind of car nut in this forum since C/D content is very mixed. You can see lots of debates about cars MPG figures, about plug, diesel, and hybrid technologies. Go deeper though and you see news about new battery technology, carbon fiber that acts as a capacity, developments on retaining energy from suspension movement, empiral data showing that fuel saving electronic power steering is getting better etc. Many folks on this site have to pay bills, so finding economical cars that are fun to drive is important and C/D (and to be fair their competitors) are "go to" places for this kind of information.

        You picked on the Z28 story because it fits into your self enforced belief pattern as opposed to commenting on the new tech which is improving efficiencies? Did you comment on the Volvo carbon fiber as a capacitor story? Did you comment on the Mazda i-ELOOP development? I doubt it because it does not fit your one track agenda - you just scout for what works. Hats off though, you get so many responses, so many votes you are getting C/D bolts without having to try very hard.

    • so when will GM pay back their debt to nation I guess they are like our federal government borrow all you can don't worry about paying it back

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      • Hats off to Ford for getting through without using taxpayer money, but please I think GM paid back ahead of schedule, http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/21/autos/gm_loan_repayment/

        Chrysler taking a different route with a lot of their stock being brought by Fiat.

      • Ford may not have been apart of the "bailout", but they have received monies many times from the taxpayers as well as GM. Ford received billions from George Bush twice, and there were no requirements to pay anything back. I'm in the car business, I can guarantee you, if it were free as usual, they would have taken it. To prove it furthermore, Ford was first in line to get more money, they claim the company was in trouble, but when Obama to his credit, said no more free money, a company that was in trouble supposedly, but when they found out it will be a loan, they were out. My point is if you need money from tax payers it should be last, and I mean last resort, and not abused. But it has always been this way with the American car companies, dating back to 60's and 70's.

    • I'm no GM fan, but this car looks like a beast. Glad it's manual only; about time we got a drivers-only car from GM.

      Can't wait to see what Ford counters with. How about another new Boss?

    • Not bad, not bad

    • Given the inherent drawbacks of this chassis, weight and sightlines as an example, this car and the 1LE's performance is nothing short of staggering.

      Bring on the lightning lap!


      I hate to tell you this Rhygin but 2 of my kids both 23 year old (twins) are already furthering the family tradition, one with a Corvette and the other with a Mustang. Live Long and Prosper. lol

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    • wow, only took two years and 40% more motor to catch a two year old mustang that's nearly $20k cheaper. Pretty cool as the ultimate Marrow, though with the puffed out rollers it's more mallow with shades of "amino" in the stretch marks; regardless Ti rods are always cool.

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      • Catch in what sense, a drag race? If that's the only number you are looking at you are missing the entire point of the car by miles.

      • Not really, I admire Ford for hearkening back to the Falcon inspired Mustang just as Pre-Disco Camaro's had a certain purity; This is much more Chevelle Malibu albiet quite adept to wrangle with Vipers though no Mangusta English.

    • SO, GM has proven once more they can build a vehicle for track use. Don`t try it in the street, you`ll get a concussion and a divorce notice from your wife. Otherwise, nice!

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