Thursday, September 27, 2007

Fakers and Liars, Again


One factor is getting those nice Veterans’ Administration benefits. Another is all the glory you get from the anti-war groupies. More than fifteen minutes worth of fame, and all those sweet young liberal girls so proud of you for admitting your shame… why it's the shades of John Kerry, post-Vietnam.



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So now he’s contrite:

MacBeth said he felt bad for what he did.














Subvet said...

You won't find these scum solely amongst the anti-war crowd. Several blogs I've gone on have regular commenters who will claim extensive military service. Almost always they'll be portrayed as G.I. Joe superhero types. However when you start questioning them the BS flies fast and furious while their claims melt like snow in a furnace.

I've also seen this at rallies held for the troops. There will be individuals selling their wares and showing nicely typed up citations for their supposed valorous service. When you scratch the surface of it though, the facts never support their fairy tales.

Damned shame. I joined in '70 and got used to be a pariah, got out in '93 after that had all subsided. Now the pendulum has completely swung the other way and every Tom, Dick & Harry tries to claim to be an incarnation of Rambo. IMHO it's a more disgusting insult.

And yes, I CAN definetly prove my own time in service!

Subvet said...

Slight typo, the second sentence in the third paragraph should have read, "...and got used to being a pariah." I'm sure that was understood though.

History Snark said...

Actually, "Stolen Valor" is the name of a book by a Vietnam vet. He noticed some years ago the number of homeless "vets" in Texas, allegedly with major awards for combat bravery, and wondered why these guys were homeless and jobless when-literally- everyone he knew from the War was successful. So he started filing FOIA requests on some, and found out they were all fakers.

Among others, he "outed" Brian Dennehy for claiming to be a Vietnam vet.

As for Kerry, I think he might have addressed that matter outside the book, but I don't recall for certain. At any rate, he has done much for the reputation of the Vietnam vet, demonstrating that the men who were really there, and out in the bush, came back and did solid things with their lives- graduated from universities, became professionals and businessmen, etc.

I believe the gentleman's name is Burkett, or something along those lines.

We all owe him a debt.

As for me, perhaps I'll dig up my Good Conduct Medal and claim it's a Distinguished Service Cross earned in Gulf War I. That ought to impress the babes, right?

Zerosumgame said...

OT for thread, but not for GoV..

After the 9/11 fiasco of Herr Thielmanns, are VB and SIAD planning anymore anti-Sharia rallies?

The English VB website does not say anything.

Thank you.

James Higham said...

Why would anyone wish to do such a thing?

falcon_01 said...

I volunteered twice to go overseas, but was told they needed me at my desk where I was stateside- so there I sat. I might have been safer in Iraq because of the lung problems I got from the moldy basement I had been working in pushing papers, but at least I can say I signed the blank check of service.

No glamorous battlefield heroics on my part- I just stood up to a corrupt official and got downsized after only a few years... I'd like to think that had I been able to stay on active duty longer I would have been able to do some of those great things most only hear stories about... but I'd take what happened to me over a fake record of battlefield service any day, knowing I played a part in supporting the warfighters.

Besides, the way things are shaping up around the world it's unfortunately quite possible we will all see action.

Those who would attempt to steal credit for the sacrifices of others, those who would seek to tarnish the honor of those who were willing to give so much so that others might taste freedom, they do a great disservice to this country and those who really have served it. They are criminals of the worst sort- especially the ones falsely accusing heroes of crimes. Those doing so are treasonous, in that their accusations endanger the safety and security of this nation while we are at war. No politically correct admonishment against them could ever do their crimes justice, but thankfully they must live in shame the rest of their lives branded as cowards and traitors to those who gave their lives for them.

Profitsbeard said...

I'm sure they all served in the Army's Disinformation Corp.

(A detachment who operate out of the Pentagon basement, right next to the remains of the CIA missile that Rumsfeld ordered fired into the building on 9/11 so he could look like a hero by surviving it.)

I never met any when I was in, but we all heard about them and discussed their activities in the chow line.

(Super-secret stuff like that always gets out. Along with how avoid adding a tiny, incrimintaing superscript "th" to forged documents after unit numbers, like the 187th.)

Exile said...


These people should also be exposed and, if possible, prosecuted for publicising untruths and damaging the reputation of the armed forces, not to mention the U.S.A.

Treason is a word that comes to mind.

David M said...


livfreerdie said...

Jennifer Griffin on Fox News said that about 80% of the military supports 20% combat troops.


Don Miguel said...

"Jennifer Griffin on Fox News said that about 80% of the military supports 20% combat troops."

I think the numbers are actually closer to 90% / 10%, although recent changes involving civilians for support and logistics will have changed the ratio. Each service has a different combat ratio also; the USMC has the highest ratio and the USAF has the lowest.