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Multihit patch damage nerfs?

After the goddess patch, i felt like my Explosion was weaker despite gaining +3 skill levels. Turns out Centerfire deals less damage than Explosion itself, while its supposed to deal 5 hits of 30% of Explosion (150% in total)
Explosion is ranked as No.3 while Centerfire is ranked here as No.8
Im using snipers serenity most of the time, so the variance should be minimal, so it has to have some weird interaction with Crouching Strike Lightning or something, i haven’t really tested it yet.

Has any other classes felt any lost damage from the change to fake multihits?
I’ll do some more testing with this weeks WBR when i feel like running :sweat_smile:

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Did some testing in DCP instead i guess (Unequipped Luciferie and Ark, goddess card on CD during test)

Explosion damage

Centerfire damage with 6th line presumably being Crouching Strike Lightning. No clue why the damage is different, but it seems to be much less than the combined factor of the full Centerfire, which can explain why Centerfire deals less damage than Explosion

Centerfire crit with mysterious 6th line damage (even lower than before)

Centerfire crit with same number as non-crit centerfire

EDIT: The 6th line is the Cannon Weapon passive. Hence the conclusion is that Centerfire doesn’t proc Crouching Strike: Lightning, which it did prior to goddess patch.


I believe a somewhat similar issue happened with Chaplain’s Binato, where it only apply once of on-hit effects despite being a 2 swings. It did apply twice before goddess patch.

Yup I notice this too, Center fire doesn’t proc Crouch Lightning because they made the multi hit after Explosion Hit instead of When Explosion is fired. Kinda bummer I hope it’s a bug and not intended, the only bread and butter now gone

EDIT: Here’s a Level 22 Explosion V.S Level 5 Triplet Lense, absolute madness!



Sent tickets – seems like an intentional change and not a bug.

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This is the response i got from my ticket, i’ve just been scouting the ktos bug fixes looking for changes, but seems unlikely it will happen. Sad moment for Canonies all over. A-At least we can still AoE right? :sad: