

Critics fear that citizens sleepwalk into the arms of Big Brother


















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RE: Rediculous invasion of privacy
By Aloonatic on 5/22/2008 4:24:36 AM , Rating: 4
The only saving grace for UK citizens is the gross incompetence of our government and civil service.

There argument for these measures is because of this Al Quida bloke?

In 5 years (in the UK) Al has managed 1 successful attack on 7/7. Apart from that some muppets setting fire to them selves in Scotland and got the kicking they deserved from the natives and other tried to copy the 7/7 bombers in the underground and only ended up making bread.

I know I'm going to sound like one of the "tin-foil hat brigade" but does anyone take this Al-Quida thing seriously?

I know that you will if you lost someone in their few and far between attacks, and I feel for you, but they really haven't been that great a terror group.

The IRA managed to do things much better and more frequently.

If you were a terrorist and wanted to bring a country to a halt wouldn't you go about sabotaging the railways and motorways with the strategic use of concrete blocks and explosions on bridges and signalling gear?

And even if you want to go the old school blowing up buildings route, 15 year old girls are out doing you Al-Quida, over here in the UK.

Boy must Osama's face be red when he looks at the score board of terror as we near the half way point of 2008:

Teenage girls 1
The uber international terror group Al-Quida 0

And then my final point (this has turned into a longer rant than I expected, sorry)

What happens when all electronic coms are monitored completely?

"Terrorists" are going to stop using them, and the lack of information being found using this surveillance stream will be seen this way, not that they were never there, but that they have stopped using e-mail.

So they will have to assume that terrorists are meeting in public places, bars, cafes and such, so these places will have to be monitored, every public place wired for video and sound.

Then when this doesn't show up anything they must be meeting up in private and therefore every home will have to have video cameras and microphones installed.

I'm not going to hang around too much longer to find out what the next civil liberty that is going to be taken away from me in the name of the fight against terror but this is by no means the only reason to leave this once great now rather sad and pathetic cowering little country.

RE: Rediculous invasion of privacy
By jabber on 5/22/2008 7:52:41 AM , Rating: 4
I agree. I dont beleive in this Al-Q crap either. Its the big excuse the UK Govt has been looking for for taking away our rights.

Did we worry when the IRA was bombing us every other week? NO. We just ignored it and carried on as if nothing happened as best we could. A couple of days outrage in the papers and then back to normal. I dont give a stuff what Al-Q are up to. I dont care. Someone always has an axe to grind. If it wasnt them it would be someone else.

Has Al-Q taken away any of my rights? NO. Only the Govt has. We had the 7/7 attack and for a day or two the Govt was all about "they will never change our way of life and they will never take our freedom. About two weeks later a whole raft of restrictive and invasive legislation is drafted in. Would it stop terrorism? No. Would any of it stop a bomb? No. Would it give them far more powers and ability to delve into our private lives? Yes.

I personally dont know anyone in the UK that wakes up worried every morning about Al-Q. I worry more about getting stabbed by a ill-educated teenager in the street but nothing gets done about stopping that.

Its all a sham. Trouble is I dont think any of the political parties in the UK would want to dissolve all those powers if they managed to take over govt in the next election. Its too intoxicating.

It will start to happen elsewhere eventually. Guns wont stop it this time either.

