

Schiller says Android OS updates are too slow








But Schiller has an answer for that, too.



Apple's Phil Schiller posing with an iPad mini




Sources: Reuters,

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By TakinYourPoints on 3/14/2013 8:18:05 PM , Rating: 1
And FUD like this is where I jump in.

In what way is Gingerbread more feature-rich when ICS is still not completely caught up? Security, user interface, performance, battery life, applications, 2.3 is second rate garbage in every single way. Every single move Google has made has been to shore up its deficiencies (project butter, improving security, etc).

Android has been rapidly improving simply because it was released in a much poorer state than iOS, Windows Phone, or WebOS.

Even retrospooty calls Android trash until ICS dropped. JB is the only Android version I can call remotely close to iOS, but unfortunately fragmentation (that big bad word) is getting in the way of developers being able to fully take advantage of the platform. Its hard when the majority of your userbase is on an old and broken OS, could you imagine if Windows developers still had to support Win98?

The best thing that can happen for Android is one of two things, either 2.x devices getting replaced over time, or companies finally supporting upgrades on hardware. The first will hold back the platform for years while we wait for JB+ devices to finally take over, especially since brand new phones are still being sold with 2.3. The second is unfortunately unlikely unless you install your own ROMs or get a Nexus device.

Again, I really wish Google had more control over Android. Their improvements with the OS mean less and less when companies have things like TouchWiz/Sense or when they're still releasing outdated operating systems on brand new hardware.

I understand that you're on a Gingerbread device, and that's fine, but don't defend your possessions by pretending that you weren't stuck years behind the curve even when it was brand new.


By rountad on 3/15/2013 11:04:12 AM , Rating: 2
How about simply connecting your phone to a computer to upload or download a file?

Lots of businesses don't allow users to install software, like iTunes.

There are numerous things that the iPhone just doesn't do or do as easily as even Android 2.3. There is a good series of videos on YouTube covering some of these points.

By retrospooty on 3/15/2013 12:17:48 PM , Rating: 3
"Even retrospooty calls Android trash until ICS dropped. "

Dont involve me with your FUD. 2.x was laggy, and just plain ugly and had other limitations, but what Reclaimer said was it was more "feature rich" and he was correct. There are just too many things IOS doesnt do for a high end phone.

Now Android has added even more features so my list you love so much has grown. Here it is again... Enjoy ;)

Android advantages
- Larger Screens
- Higher resolution screens with better DPI
- Better Edge to Edge display (no giant iBezel)
- Micro SD card
- Removable batteries
- 802.11ac
- Mini HDMI port
- Better Notifications
- Faster Voice search
- Better Mapping software
- Widgets
- Live wallpaper
- Plays HD content without downscaling
- Greater than 5x4 icons
- Multi user support
- Multi Window support
- pop up browser(in a window)
- Wireless charging
- Eye scrolling
- Waterproof models
- Better OS
- Better UI
- Prettier OS
- Photo Spere
- Plug and play as a flash drive to copy files
- Flexibility in OS (Tons of Custom ROM's, etc)
- Flexibility in hardware (qwerty models, waterproof models, removable batteries, larger models, smaller models, high end models, mid range models, cheap models)
- Micro USB (Like every other phone made by every other manufacturer on planet Earth for the past four years, except of course, Apple)

By retrospooty on 3/15/2013 12:24:48 PM , Rating: 2
oh.. and

- Air gestures
- Active stylus support

I am sure I am missing some more. DAMN that is a long list. A few can be called opinion, but the most of it is real features with real benefits and you know it.

By CeriseCogburn on 3/17/2013 12:29:32 AM , Rating: 2

Yes you are missing a lot, but then the appl fanboys will lie, and lie a lot more, so let them have their hard rectangle hand cutting arthritic producing piece of tiny junk.

Why help them to the light, they can't handle a real OS anyway.

By Reclaimer77 on 3/15/2013 3:08:34 PM , Rating: 2
Retro I'm not even responding to him at this point. I don't know about you, but I'm really tired of making the same huge list of features iOS is missing that Android has had since day one, only to have him repeat the same FUD and out of date talking points.

Also he seems really confused about the difference between hardware and the OS. Listing things like "battery life" as an iOS advantage, when battery life is almost entirely decided by screen size, not OS "efficiency".

By retrospooty on 3/15/2013 3:19:31 PM , Rating: 2
"repeat the same FUD and out of date talking points"

Amen to that. His talking points do seem to be stuck on 2011ville.

I dont mind. I'll post my list for no other reason than to piss him off at this point LOL. It's a hell of a long and undeniable list with alot of recent additions. I just love to see that list and hear ridiculous responses like "none of those things matter" or "So what if its missing a dozen different things that all modern smartphones should have, IOS users browse the web more" LOL... Hilarious.

By half_duplex on 3/18/2013 11:54:56 AM , Rating: 2
I'm glad you like your Android, but I think many items are your list should be classified as features, not advantages. Also, in my personal experience, many are also double edged swords.

For example, the larger screen on my Galaxy SII made it difficult to use with one hand, and also a sub standard battery life.

The Micro SD could be seen as an advantage, or a disadvantage if compared to the out of the box storage that comes with each iPhone. I've never needed more than 16GB of memory on my phone though.

I've owned both, and I am not sure I can agree that the UI is more pretty, slick or responsive. iOS apps are closely scrutinized line by line by high level developers while Android Market is so wide open key loggers have made their way onto it.

By TakinYourPoints on 3/16/2013 3:50:45 AM , Rating: 2

It has everything to do with efficiency and superior engineering.

A smaller chassis and screen means a MUCH smaller battery. The number of LEDs has an insignificant effect on power drain compared to the SoC, antennas, and having the OS optimized for specific hardware.

You're telling me that a much smaller battery yielding double the LTE and wifi time, something that has everything to do with better antennas and more power efficient LTE chips, is because of a smaller screen?

You don't know very much about hardware engineering, do you?

By CeriseCogburn on 3/17/2013 12:31:21 AM , Rating: 2
Well, at least have a look and give your mental state a fair shot to update itself to reality

50 reasons you need to leave your lovely ip5

By Reclaimer77 on 3/17/2013 1:16:50 AM , Rating: 2
Takin's response: "Those are all gimmicks"

By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 9:51:29 AM , Rating: 2
Just add the other 40 or so to your list for next time, so his response looks really really stupid instead of just extremely dumb.

You notice, the guy couldn't make an appl 50 even though he promised - there just aren't but maybe 2 functions on an iphone that android doesn't have I guess. Maybe the number is zero.




- Inferior quality and selection of applications and poor developer support
- Inferior UI
- Poor security
- Malware






Forgot this one:

Better Mapping software





