Submitted by EskimoPress 683d ago | article

Treyarch Begin To Usher In The Next Gen

Eskimo Press: " The franchise that has probably endured the most ridicule for the last 5 years is one of the first to take a significant step toward the next generation of gaming." (Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, Next-Gen, PS3, Treyarch, Xbox 360)

Root  +   683d ago
To be honest I couldn't care less if COD got a new engine for next gen

It's not the graphics people complain about really, it's the fact it's the same game from years ago and it will be the same game on next gen consoles with a new lick of paint.

You can't polish a turd but you can try to make it look presentable as much as you can
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zerocrossing  +   683d ago
Exactly, what are graphical improvements going to do a for a franchise that's been stagnating since 2006?

COD can be good I genuinely believe that, but why would activision bother investing more money into it when it's a guaranteed sell even with aging game mechanics?.
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Root  +   683d ago

You know whats going to happen though it's going to get this new lick of paint and people will be hailing it as a MASSIVE leap when it's not

Thus giving reviews the excuse to give it a high score...again
HammadTheBeast  +   683d ago
The gameplay itself is just bad. They took "fast-paced action" way too far to cash-in, and now it's a joke.

When 70% of your fan base can go 90-0 consistently, there's a problem.
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sdozzo  +   683d ago
Only problem is that it's not a turd. It's one of the highest grossing series ever.
zerocrossing  +   683d ago
X factor is one of the most watched shows on TV, Justin Bieber has millions of fans... popularity means nothing.
anzil  +   683d ago
@zerocrossing no but reviews do you retard call of duty is positively reviewed erry time!
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zerocrossing  +   683d ago

You think posative reviews actually count towards a game being good? and you're calling me the retard...
The_Infected  +   683d ago

CoD sucks! It's a crap game and most of the ones that play it live on it and never play any other games. Oh the reviews are far from perfect. They just found a addiction formula that some people get hooked on. It will die off soon trust me.
sobekflakmonkey  +   683d ago
it's funny, millions and millions of people play CoD, it's one of the highest grossing game series ever, constant high review scores, millions and millions of people love and play the game, they enjoy it, BUT you people say "it's not a good game" "that doesn't mean its a good game" "Popularity means nothing" "positive reviews dont actually count towards a game being good" "just because more people like this game than any other game doesn't mean its good"....

Honestly, guys? girls? It's okay if you don't like it, that's fine, I don't even like CoD, but I do think great overall review scores, the fact that more people play and enjoy CoD than any other game out there and the fact that it has the most sales of any franchise does mean that it is a great game, you guys are just upset because you don't like and you think nobody else should, be fuckn adults please...

By your logic, games with 1/10 overall game reviews and sell less than 250,000 total, and are hated by most people are the best games ever...
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Statix  +   683d ago

IGN gave Black Ops 2 a whopping 93% score--a game that really doesn't advance the franchise in substantial or meaningful ways, and in fact takes a few steps back with laggy netcode that renders the multiplayer experience nearly unplayable half of the time.

Meanwhile, the same IGN gave Far Cry 3--generally considered by the gaming community to be the best FPS of 2012--a lower score at 90%.

That should tell you something about the so-called "legitimacy" of game review scores and gaming journalism as a whole. I have been a hardcore, veteran FPS gamer all my life. When truly brilliant and well-built FPS experiences like Hard Reset and STALKER 3--some of my favorite FPS games ever--only manage to achieve decent/moderate average Metacritic scores of 73% or 80% respectively from the gaming press, just because these games don't have the hype or advertising punch behind them like a monolithic franchise like COD... it truly makes me wary about trusting any game review sites whatsoever without a pinch of salt, and a truckload of cynicism.
RyuCloudStrife  +   683d ago
CoD haters hate when people state FACTS.

CoD franchise is the best this gen. FACT.
Tacklebait  +   683d ago
The article is about its video streaming feature.. did anyone read it?
aceitman  +   683d ago
well hopefully they can have destruction , bring vehicles back like cod wow , and have more players in the matches.and they can change the graphics.
RioKing  +   683d ago
^So you want COD to be exactly like Battlefield, correct? Hmmm I wonder what people on here will complain about if that happens...
007Bond  +   683d ago
So with this you're basically saying games like Uncharted, God of war, Bioshock, are all trash? They sell alot less than COD yet their sequels seem very similar as well HATERS GONNA HATE
Root  +   683d ago
They difference between those games and COD is that those developers actually spend time crafting games which will progress and evolve the games as each game goes by

Look at Uncharted to Uncharted 2 for example

Even Uncharted 2 to Uncharted 3 there was a big difference, not as much in graphics this time like the jump from Uncharted to Uncharted 2 but also in the gameplay. Drake moving more realisticly and interacting with the environment more...putting his hand on the railing of stairs, putting his hands on objects as he's running, putting his hands on the wall facing up when he's hit a dead end etc. Small improvments but they made sure to craft the best games they could

That my friend is what COD doesn't do.

So your argument fails....good try though
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RioKing  +   683d ago
^LMFAO!!! "The difference between Uncharted 2 & 3 was big"

Your example: He put his hands on more things.

Nice dude, nice. "Small improvements, BIG DIFFERENCE"
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DOMination-  +   683d ago
A new engine means more than just better graphics.
coffinxnails  +   682d ago
that's funny root. Every single time COD is mentioned on here the old engine and bad graphics are brought up every single time. BO2 implemented quite a few new features for multiplayer as well as the single player campaign that allowed for more options and re playability.

@hammadtheone you have obviously never played the game or played a couple hours and never learned how to properly play if you believe 70% of cod players consistently go 90-0.

You dont make a new formula for a franchise that sells more than any other game each year, you constantly tweak and perfect the formula that works.
The multiplayer is here to stay, Even when the cod kiddies give up for the next cool FPS console game there will still be people who enjoyed the series since the beginning and will continue to play it.

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KillrateOmega  +   682d ago
"You dont make a new formula for a franchise that sells more than any other game each year"

Yeah. You just keeping pumping them out on a yearly basis, so you can milk the franchise for all it's worth while simultaneously oversaturating it.
RioKing  +   682d ago
Coffin...you just made too much sense. You better hide for cover..
NastyLeftHook0  +   683d ago
same engine, same gameplay, better graphics, same insane advertisingto kids who eat cheetos and drink mountain dew and have snot in there noses coming out with zits on there face.
Qrphe  +   683d ago
They'll be eating Doritos not Cheetos

The_Infected  +   683d ago
You could be nice and send me one of those cupcakes:)
RTheRebel  +   683d ago
As much as I dislike COD,
Good strategy by Activision make next cod game unreal engine 4 people will flock to it and say omg huge leap
shivvy24  +   683d ago
that would be a stupid move, 25% of royalties go to Epic and cod makes shitloads of cash! from what i know activision makes about 1 billion in profit from each cod title, unreal takes 25% royalties so ur looking at $250mil , so really it would be smarter if they built their own engine
porkChop  +   683d ago
Wtf are you talking about? Epic doesn't take 25% royalties from UE-licensed games. People purchase a UE license (which is expensive compared to other engines) from Epic and that's it. If Epic was taking 25% royalties then NO ONE would license their engine. Geez, what are you fucking high?
OneAboveAll  +   683d ago
This series still uses canned death animations. That's how far behind they are.
creatchee  +   683d ago
Honestly, when I'm trying to take down as many people as possible while attacking and/or defending an objective, I could care less what it looks like when an enemy dies.
N0S3LFESTEEM  +   683d ago
Throw a knife at someones foot and watch them do the twirl of death.
HammadTheBeast  +   683d ago
lol objectives. You're doing it wrong.
CanadianTurtle  +   683d ago
I'm one of those people that didn't buy Black Ops 2. I couldn't be any happier! I used up my money for a few alternative games that will give me more fun than Black Ops ever will.
shivvy24  +   683d ago
i stopped after mw2 , i tried my friends BO2 and i got bored in my second level so i just gave it back to him, same with MW3
momthemeatloaf  +   683d ago
Who the hell would watch someone play Call of Duty? The game has no tactics, just idiots running and gunning, it's boring as hell to watch because it constant repetitiveness.
shivvy24  +   683d ago
i watched my 10 yr old bro come second in a game just by using an attatched grenade launcher , LOL the game has no tactics !
Skate-AK  +   683d ago
I thought they were gonna talk about a next gen engine. We have known about the streaming for more than 4 months.
Hicken  +   683d ago
Their "next-gen" news is using Unreal 4? Not even bothering to make their own? And I bet every Call of Duty will run UE4 next gen, too.

They'll never learn, it seems.
mochachino  +   683d ago
I stopped buying COD games a while ago, but it can't be disputed that millions of people really enjoy it, more so than any other game currently. Based on that fact alone I couldn't honestly say that COD should generally be regarded as a bad game, despite my dislike of it.

That being said no one stays on top forever and eventually COD will fall as developers out-COD COD by building on it's valuable gameplay contributions (control scheme) an create something new and innovative.

If I played COD for the first time today, I'd probably like it but I played it since COD2 and am totally sick of it.
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   683d ago
i think only one other person here read the article besides me. nowhere does this article talk about graphics. it about streaming. geez u people are a bunch of haters. go find new hobbies
Evil_Ryu  +   683d ago
Title is so misleading...
solid_warlord  +   683d ago
Every year there's a COD and every year people say this year is the last straw and the franchise will die out next year. 8 years on since COD2, COD till strong if not bigger than ever. If i got a quid for every time i hear COD is gonna die next year then i would be a millionair. The fact is that every single year COD breaks some kind of record. Every COD since COD4 has hit 20million or more when an average hit game reaches 5 million max.

Every year COD DOMINATES. It gets good reviews across the media spectrum. Allot of gamers come out and hate it and yet they still go buy it every year which i am guilty of.

I don't think i have hated another game more than COD, but its still the only game i really ever play. The fast paced 60FPS gamplay, killstreak rewards, killcams, perks is just awesome. I mean, when u play games like BF3 u appreciate COD even more. The 60fps and ultra fast gameplay with TDM specifically oriented game in mind, no other game does it better. I've come to realize, we all hate COD but can't get enough of it. That's why every single year we buy it, even with all the bullcraps such as the retardation of Lag comp that fucks u up, big time. Its abit like democracy, its an ugly evil vile form of political entity but yet the other alternatives are worse. COD does have the best formula game play for all.

We can all complain all we want..."its for kids", "its not a thinking mans game", "its the justing bieber of games" lol. No, comparing Justin bieber is not a good analogy, no MAN listen to justin bieber. COD is more like "Porn". Everyone either loves it or hates it but can't get enough of it. From Kids to Adults, porn is just too good just like COD is. U don't sell 20 million every year and call it a fluke, in this case 8 years of perfect formula that is COD.

People in general would always prefer a shooter with fast paced TDM oriented game such as COD than a Territory based shooter like Battlefield.

CoD probably not a popular as porn but hell, its the porn of the games industry. Its disgusting, vile, demeaning but fucking awesome and addictive at the same time. There is gonna be allot of haters here who are gonna press the disagree button. It will only prove that they too love to hate on COD but yet, after reading my comment and pressing the disagree button...they would go and play a game of COD because they know i am right.
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artdafoo  +   682d ago
COD and " Next Gen " dont belong in the same breath. I hope all the fanboys are looking forward to another 5+ years of the same shit come next fall.
FunkMacNasty  +   682d ago
So if ANY of you read the article you would know that they are claiming that Treyarch's step towards "next-gen"was adding the feature to live-stream matches using the PS eye camera or the Xbox Kinect camera... NOT A NEW ENGINE

But of course nobody read the article, and know all the instant troll comments are just hilarious, because they have nothing to do with the article.

On-Topic, I don' think the ability to stream matches is a big deal..not a "significant leap" as the lead-in paragraph suggests.

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