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Old 11-22-2012, 11:24 AM   #26
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Re: Bleach 517

Originally Posted by Dagoro View Post
If the secret service was full of overpowered super soldiers that could dish out more pain than all of the cops in DC combined and the president was in a location that required special means to gain entrance into I would.
It's not as if the Gotei 13 aren't elite soldiers themselves though, that should even need these super-soldiers to come help them. I agree with the Kuwabara guy that SS is a bunch of weaklings that should be ashamed for being so pathetic as to need help. They should train harder IMO. If all the captains were on Yama's level then these Quincy's wouldn't have stood a chance, and 0 squad wouldn't even be needed, yes?

It doesn't make sense that the 0 squad didn't help which is what Soifon was pointing out. If they are more powerful than the 13 squads, which includes Yamamoto the guy that incinerated several of the invaders on his own, had they sent 2-3 people down to SS this crap would be over. Yes, their job is to protect the king, but damn it weren't they watching the fight ?

Also the reason there are so many secret service people guarding the president isn't just because of the potential strength of an attacker, but because you never know where it's gonna come from, and what kind of numbers they might use. Remember way back during the Rescue Rukia arc when Ichigo and company ran around SS for days without being discovered, despite thousands of shinigami looking for them, LMAO!!!! And 5 guys to suppose to patrol the kings palace alone.
Well we really don't know how much stronger 0 squad really is at the moment, just that they>Gotei 13. So let's assume that they are each the equivalent in power to 3 captains. That means there combined strength is the same as 15 captains. Now if 2 of them did actually come to help out in the fight, it wouldn't have really helped out that much in the end. They might have taken out a few more quincy, but certainly not Juha Bach. On the other hand the remaining 3 of the 0 squad that stayed at the kings palace would now be the less than the strength of the Gotei 13 meaning there's nothing they could do is Bach and his goons showed up there next.

Also Juha Bach had given the order to retreat and wait for 0 squad to show up, meaning they were getting ready to fight them next, so they must have not been all that impressed by those guys anyway.

Several captains survived their battles even with their Bankai being locked due to the circumstances, meaning the enemy wasn't that freaking powerful. From where I'm standing the opportunity for a surprise attack in order to end things was there. As for the king, it has been established that you need a key or some other shit to make it to his realm/palace so he/she/it would not be in immediate danger.
Only the captains that were ridiculously strong the begin with, and have NEVER used bankai anyway. Shusui, Ukitake, Shinji, etc....

Not only was their inaction a stupid move but it all seems to stem from arrogance.

"You do your job I do mine. Even though had I helped you things would be over by now and there would have been a lot less casualties."
The only thing arrogant was Yama not getting his arm healed out of stupid prided when Orihime could have probably done ie in a few minutes. Bach called him out on that shit too.

That is just shitty writing in my opinion.
These last few chapters have actually been the only thing on the last 200+ chapters that weren't shitty writing.

While these are reasonable, possible scenarios I don't think the events of the manga back it up. Let's be real here, the only worth while person among the Quincy was Juha.
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion seeing as we've only seen about half of the Quincy actually fight. I'm pretty sure with Bach giving each of them a letter designation that there are 26 elite fighters in total, and we've seen no more then 15 of them!!! I'm assuming they are ranked A-Z depending on their strength as well, meaning the highest ranked Sternritter we've seen was E. So where are D, C, B, and A, and just how much stronger are they? If it's anything like the Espada, the difference in power shouldn't even be funny.

So to say Juha Bach was the only threat there isn't a valid argument at all. Also in case you've forgetten, it was Bach's little sidekick that broke Ichigo's Bankai in 1 hit. That dude is a definite threat as well.

Originally Posted by Dagoro View Post
Kingoflighting pointed something out that completely eluded me.

How come Unohana's skills are inadequate when it comes to healing these guys when she was able to heal that little chick that was cut clean in half ?
I dunno. That chick did get cut clean in half though. Maybe that makes it easier to fix then byakuya was basically cut by thousands of times by mini blades, and left a bloody mess that was stomped into a wall. Just Sayin'.

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