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is two different things. >> where do you get a crazy religion like that? i've never heard of that religion. >> it's how you answer the question. >> that makes a lot of sense. i don't get shot. the other guy does but that's my religion. let's go back to you. what do you think is going to be the biggest fight? >> the biggest fight? boy, good question. i dobt know that there's going to be a fight. >> what are you going to actually do with all of these taxes? >> well, here's the thing about tonight. michael and i were talking about this tonight. we don't know -- either of these guys could screw up tonight. and so we don't know that they are going to be -- there is going to be this correct debate and everybody is going to do what they ought to do. >> do you think they will stay careful? >> i think they are conscious and weary at first but either mitt romney or barack obama, just because of the people they are, either one is capable of giving that wrong body language, that wrong -- >> okay. i'd be nervous if i were romney if we're 15 minutes in and it seems boring, i'd begin to
. it would translate religion and christianity in particular in progressive politics around helping the poor or preserving the environment. the entire movement emerging that is challenging the irs, that is defying the ban on political endorsement is a conservative movement. >> those behind the campaign are already daring the irs on to sue them. here's what the laws ths, a tax-exempt religious organization is a legal entity that did not participate in or sbemp in any political campaign on behalf of any candidate for public office. so has any church or any one faced a penalty as a result? >> there are very occasional penalties. really it seems like a handful every year, but there's not a wide number by any stretch. what you say is exactly right. this is an attempt by a conservative networks of pastors and lawyers to really challenge this law. the law dates back to 1954. it's been on the books now for over 60 years, and what they want to do is to get a church penalized so they can challenge the law and take this to court and attempt to get this ban overturned. we'll see if it works. >> so i gue
to jump in because the reality beano, the parties tend to throw religion when is an upwardly seemed to move certain voters. my frustration is when you have an honest conversation with the hispanic community about religion, you can see them going down the line between the republican and democratic parties. the examples are i am a democrat and a latino because i believe in taking care of my fellow man and woman. the democratic party looks at this issues -- how do we support those families who need? you have this catholic christian latinos who say it makes sense, i need to be a democrat, because we do that kind of social outreach. on the republican side, is a black and white issue about abortion. the reality for latinos is that your walking down the middle of the road with them when it comes to religion, because of that talk of war. my mother in law knows what i do in terms of the democratic message and being out there supporting the president, but she is a strong woman of faith and she cannot be dissuade or moved when it comes to the issue of around abortion. she has told me i will no
values in regard to the family, to religion. >> abortion. >> abortion. issues on that. >> gay marriage. they're very conservative. that's basically what changed everything. i remember reading an article where president bush was asked what was one of his biggest regrets. he said, not passing immigration reform. as a republican and having a republican congress he could not convince his own party to support immigration reform. we focus only on the undocumented immigrants. i think that that's -- that that's what's happening, that when people perceive latinos, first thing that pops into their mind is immigrants and undocumented immigrants or like they say illegal aliens which is a term we don't like to use. they don't realize that 74% are americans, are citizens either by birth or naturalized. so the majority of latinos are americans and we have a buying power of over a trillion dollars. if latinos in the u.s. were a country, we would be the 14th largest economy in the world. they're 2.5 billion businesses that are latino owned. we are a very important part of this country. we contribute ve
the military people, they have a type of card you can imagine. did i ever say that religion matter? what color of the skin? are they male or female? are they muslims, christians -- nothing? imagine having that in your heart. that is what military people have. that is what your counterterrorism units have. because they are doing it every day, throwing themselves. [inaudible] i have so many patients now that i can hardly see them all. people can tell when you love them. when i was kicking out the door and swimming in the room, i left him with love. in closing, i want to leave you with an example of how i know love is missing. after i got divorced, i told myself i would never get married again. i would rather get shot three more times. i was a bachelor for a long time. god finally sent me the right one who convinced me that i could do something else with my life. i don't live in a bottle anymore. i don't have to take a ton of prescription medications anymore for pain. i have learned how to express myself besides just being on a team or having to do something illegal time. there's it is a lesson t
for my family. i pray for my little girls. prayer and religion sustain me. i receive calmness in the storms of the presidency. >> calmness in the storms of the presidency from george w. bush. he went on then from that debate to keep his lead and to win that election. >> and joining me now is cnn contributor and democratic strategist hillary rosen. hillary, good morning. both critics and support efforts of president obama say he was off in the debate. we've got numbers that simultaneously give the president a boost on the economy and take away key republican line of attack that we all have learned well that, nation's unemployment rate remains above 8%. 31 days from now, hillary, what is going to resonate more with voters? will it be style or substance? >> that's a great question, randi, because i think that, you know, there was a lot of theater, not just on the stage the other night, but, you know, in the mediate next day and people talking about performances, but i think when we look at kind of dial groups from undecided voters and even the cnn groups and other independent gro