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File sharing sites will be filtered out.
By reader1 on 4/24/2009 9:52:55 AM , Rating: 0
File sharing sites will eventually be filtered out of search results just as child pornography sites are filtered now. There's no way search providers can simultaneously support piracy and legitimate sales. They will have to choose one, and it's obvious which one it will be. So far, the internet is driven by technology, but soon it will be driven by money. If it doesn't, it will collapse as it did before.

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By Bateluer on 4/24/2009 9:57:44 AM , Rating: 4
Disagree, adult sites are often filtered from search results too, but you can still get to them. Banner ads, word of mouth, etc will lead people there.

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By reader1 on 4/24/09, Rating: 0


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By JasonMick (blog) on 4/24/2009 10:12:25 AM , Rating: 1
How exactly do you propose such a scheme? Should fan pages about movies/tvs/music not be allowed? What about news columns? Or fan videos? How can you distinguish Podcasts about a copyrighted item (a review of a cd, for example) from the item itself? There's no way a search engine company (like Google) could be expected to do that -- its way to computationally intensive, and would require a ton of investment in custom software algorithms. In short -- its just not going to happen.

Sure, there will be industry technologies like DRM and watermarking, but ultimately such technologies interfere with customers making legal backups and come off as anticustomer. Ultimately, the industry will be forced to adopt a more customer friendly mentality and drop such efforts, I believe. The entertainment industry just doesn't have the money or legal resources to convince/bribe/sue everyone in the electronics and internet industries, the government, and the general public into their way of thinking.

They may have their victories, but its a war of attrition they will ultimately lose. Whatever your opinions on the topic are, its hard to argue that. The entertainment industry just doesn't have the funds to sue 22 million people, even if they'd love to.

Like I've said again and again, they should focus on making better content. The independent movie and music industry is flourishing, and is much less antipiracy-geared.

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By derwin on 4/24/2009 10:58:53 AM , Rating: 1
I think you missed the point. As search giants become more and more tied into the profits of online sales of music, movies, etc. it becomes a bottom line sort of issue as to whether or not torrents are searchable. It is not hard to do, and it is probably legally viable. How do you do it? The same way (as the original poster said) they filter child porongraphy. "But those are all just pictures, how do you know they won't filter a picture of my mother?" Well, they don't filter pictures of your mother, do they?

The argument that the quality of music and movies warrants stealing them is baloney. Granted, and I agree with you here, music now sucks, and so does the movies that are put out. And do you know what that does warrant? Not seeing them. Not listening to them. Not putting a penny in the pockets of those who produced these attrocious affronts to what used to be known as human artistic expression. However, it does not warrant stealing them.

This asside, the poster made a great point that when money is involved, profits win, and if it ever becomes profitable to not have torrents serachable, you can bet your behind that torrents will not be searchable.

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By DM0407 on 4/24/2009 11:37:26 AM , Rating: 3
There will always be underground sites, not everyone is out for money. An ISP pressuring search engines to filter results sounds a lot like Tiered internet service. Granted it starts off with good intentions, then suddenly you can't access Google without a $100 'Gold Package'.

Secondly, I don't want to open a can of worms, but I think we need to drop the word 'stealing'. Its copying, if you steal you are physically removing property from someone else. If I stole a movie, then I have the only copy and it can not be distributed. If I copy a movie, then I am only effecting the people who see my copy....

Its like the Credit Crisis Bubble: You can not speculate how much money a product would have made had every pirated copy been paid for. The figures are severely inflated, stop acting like its lost money.

At most, maybe %10 of the pirated copies would have been bought, but who knows how many people went out and bought the product because they enjoyed what they copied (guilty of this).

To all those that are against piracy, make sure when you watch TV that you sit through all the commercials, those commercials paid for you to be able to view this copy protected show, so you best not be cheating the system!

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By ClownPuncher on 4/24/09, Rating: -1
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By Pudro on 4/24/2009 1:52:17 PM , Rating: 3
I don't think you understand what that word means.

Oh, and by the way, the Supreme Court of the United States disagrees with you.

By Motoman on 4/24/2009 3:52:08 PM , Rating: 3
This is the same industry who had an officer of one company or another (forgive me, I don't remember which one) who said in court that if a user makes a .mp3 from a CD they legally purchased themselves, for their own use, that they just "stole" that song.

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"Taking without paying"


You should have to pay royalties on those memories.





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Agreed... but Jason didn't make that argument.



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By rcc on 4/24/2009 2:26:04 PM , Rating: 3

And what exactly is the incentive here? If you are of the opinion that people will suddenly start paying for things they've been stealing just because the quality is better you are in for a grave disappointment.

IMNSHO, of course.

RE: File sharing sites will be filtered out.
By LumbergTech on 4/24/2009 4:31:39 PM , Rating: 2
I think a better way to put it would be if the price reflects the quality of the content.

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Then we can talk about jhonny and susies punishment.

Skipped the meds again did you?


Two wrongs don't make a right. : )

Yeah just like Radiohead proved right??



