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must be very, very special. here it is. ♪ ♪ ♪ . >> bill: joining us now from boston to explain the madness, psychiatrist dr. keith ablow. all right. so the guy, remember the pony? he's just doing the pony. >> the pony. >> bill: the pony. that's what he's doing. he's jumping up and down and 800 million views of this? what's going on? >> well, look, there will be those who dismiss this as having no meaning, just a good beat. and a lot of fun. i won't be one of those dissing it because when you approach a billion views on youtube, and surpass justin bieber, perhaps you're tapping into something. i think what this fellow is tapping into is in fact this sipsy, is tapping into the fact that people don't want meaning right now. music, the most popular music apparently is that without intelligible words to some extent, it's simply conveys it to a distant place, beat wise, doesn't try to convince you of anything. that doesn't try to raise your emotions. it just is sort of like a drug and that seems to be what most people seem to want right now. not reality, not feeling north texas meani
here. >> hike in the stephen flynn from northeastern university in boston. on the issue of new normal, i wonder picking up on david's point about the price to post-9/11, is the sort of coming to grips with the hubris we could prevent bad things from happening, this huge investment in the post-secular world arabic ere we could ideally stop risk. actually coping with that is what we really need to increase and maybe just bring it very close to home. we just had this bashing mother nature in the area, priced at around $60 billion for a risk above the basic things like when you have tunnels that are only seven feet above water. it fills up the hole and you end up with 86 million gallons of oil in the tunnel and that's not hard to predict. putting safeguards in place in recovering this may be one element of this. basically the issue is that we focus too much on trying to prevent risk instead of managing it better? >> steve tried to argue for solace, which is an interesting concept. yes, back here. >> richard downey from the center for hemispheric u.s. david, you mentioned in the election t