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bill clinton came in and said we are way too left and have to moderate our positions and that is where the democratic leadership council came in. there are a lot of democrats that were very upset with bill clinton during the late '80s and early '90s. they obviously won the white house back in 1992 because they nominated a moderate to center democrat that could win independents and women and people of color and so forth? >> there is an article that the tea party is over. that obviously is the right of the right fringe element of the republican party. very hard line. they certainly had a bigger voice when more of those supported members were elected to congress in 2010, but is that accurate? do you think the tea party is over for extreme conservea tichl? >> time will tell. clearly last tuesday voters didn't express happiness or support for the tea party very clearly. the question will be whether the republican party tries to move as jonathan just described, kind of moderates their message or still beholden to that kind of extreme part of the party? we're starting to see a few dfrs say we
it was under bill clinton where he taught 22 million jobs created we had a higher tax rate. i don't think this idea that higher tax rates stopped economic growth. what stopped economic growth is the parties making a difference. we have to come to an agreement and accept the fact that president obama won the election which included the tax increases for the wealthiest americans. >> tell me what you think is fair if we do compromise and taxes are raised he ran on staying howls holds have been make that go money and above will see taxes go up. is that fair? >> no. that is a level that has to move. they are bringing other revenue sources to the table including capping deductions and closing loopholes. that number the president is digging its heels on are where the margin matters and it will effect the job market. the white house will have to give on that point. >> we don't want to see taxes go up for everyone. that tax rate we may see a compromise. with deductions and closing loopholes. >> what do you think we can expect? >> both are agreeing on the same point. we are going to expect somethin
's suggestion he might not demand the top income tax rate return to what it was under bill clinton. aides with him for the second tour of damage from hurricane sandy suggested mr. obama's demand is for a sure source of re-knew, leaving negotiators to decide how much the re-knew is. >> what i will not do is to have a process that is vague, that says we're going to sort of, kind of raise revenue through dynamic scoring. or closing loopholes that have not been identified. >> on this day, house speaker john boehner claimed that gallup survey showed most people support lowering the deficit ending the tax loopholes and making needed spending cuts. but that is not specific enough for white house. boehner wasn't more detailed the day before. >> getting in to the specifics of that at this point would not be con deuce i to try to come to the white house. >> republicans and democrats continue to position themselves for friday startup talks between the president and congressional leaders. each accusing the other of refusing to compromise. >> the keys to the car are heading toward the fisca cliff are
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and tell them you're dead here, you're finished. it's almost macabre. >> we have talked about bill clinton as a super surrogate for barack obama. mike, the guy in that ad, he's a super anti-surrogate, an anti-validator of mitt romney. he looks like the voter that barack obama needed to change sides, that former reagan democrat, that white working class guy looking dead into the camera and saying, this guy destroyed us. he took away our livelihood and he made us build the stage that we had to stand on to announce the end of our jobs. it was absolutely the most devastating ad, but what was also remarkable was the romney people had no response. look, they had a six-month lead time on this line of attack because remember something called winning our future pac? they ran a 27 minute ad of this same message. romney, because he survived in florida after that, he seemed to think i can get over this because he didn't respond. >> i talked to -- >> jane mayer, you write in your piece that sarah palin of all people thought that the bain ad had a negative impact on mitt romney's candidacy. she thinks i
. >> in 1997 after bill clinton got re-elected but before lewinsky, the republicans tried to do the same thing on chinese fund-raising. remember that? they spent the better part of a year trying to turn this into a huge scandal. there is a little more to that one than there is to this. this is just exploiting a tragedy for political purposes. >> and here is the great irony. john mccain, who seems like he's the big whistle-blower, going after susan rice yesterday. compare what he said about susan rice yesterday with what he said about another foreign policy expert, in this case condoleezza rice, back in 2005. here is mccain on susan rice. take a listen. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> okay. mortal sin, deal breaker, end of her career because john mccain said she had gotten the wrong brief and delivered the wrong brief. however, mccain had a very different reaction back in 2005 when condoleezza rice was nominat
government of bill clinton being replaced. no. it's also something that domestic constituencies drive u.s. presidents to participate in. but it doesn't just come from that. i mean, it really comes from a deep u.s. involvement from the start in the creation of israel. a deep concern about wanting to help israel secure itself. but also bring about peace in the middle east. i'd like to complicate this story more by bringing in a regional context. yes, there is internal politics that drives this, there's history that drives it. israel and hamas are dealing with a different regional context as well. hamas had been tolerated by but not really liked by the mubarak government in israel which is in many ways the patron of palestinians in the middle east. the morsi government is more supportive of hamas. they used to be based in damascus, syria. they moved out pretty much just in time as the assad regime begins to crumble there and have found new friend in the region as they distance themselves from syria. israel is finding a region in which it has fewer friend and hamas is in a region in which i
but achieves our common goal of balancing a budget. something bill clinton and newt gingrich did in the mid-90s. shannon: are you against closing loop holes? >> i'm in favor of new revenues through economic growth. if you grow the economy at 4% a year, that 4% a year over 2% a year over a decade raises $5 trillion in more revenue. not a tax increase. but revenue through growth. why would you raise taxes when you could debt $5 trillion by cutting marginal tax rates and getting rid of some of the overregulation that obama is threatening the economy with and having more economic growth and more people pat work? that's the better way to raise revenue. it's disingenuous to say both parties have failed. the republicans in the house passed the ryan plan which fundamentally reformed entitlements. it needs the senate and the president to go along with it. but the republicans passed a real budget in writing in legislative form not some essay about what they think might be done which is all the president has done. shannon: paul ryan did win his house seat so he will be back there with the budget committee
. that is pretty evil. >> i don't think that happened under reagan or under bill clinton. marginal tax rate increase that democrats are looking for will do nothing more than help support the majority of middle class americans that not only support increases on, increase in tax rates on people who are earning over $250,000 but also support not cutting things like social security and medicare and medicaid. and so i think the democrats come in not feeling very, very, rather feeling very strong around this idea that they can create the right compromise and right balance to move this country forward. rick: terry, bill kristol, the prominent conservative, spent last couple days on this network talking about how republicans may want to go along with the president's plan to raise tax rates on those earners above 250,000. take a listen. i'll get your response. this is last night an "special report". >> the first takes rates expire on december 31st. rates are going up for everyone if nothing happens. if you think republicans can win a showdown preserving all the current tax rates against a president
cliff. martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehner got together. that republicans are going to refuse to go along with any tax increases until, really because they want to see it done slightly different way which we can get into. the president says, that he won't budge either, monica. >> yes. what goes around and comes around and here we are exactly the same spot, martha, as you just said. there are two sacred principle at play for the republicans not raising taxes and cutting spending. focus seems to be because president and democrats do have control over this narrative only thing that seems to be at the conversation here, what we're talking about is, the tax issue, revenue versus rates. but i also think that the republicans really need to focus on cutting spending. that is the other part of this equation that is, just as important if not more important, martha becaus
, hillary clinton has confirmed she's going to leave. as bill plante reports, republicans already are objecting to her potential replacement. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah. that's exactly right. cbs news has learned that the president is likely to nominate susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. white house sources say the president feels that he should be able to choose the cabinet members he wants, and they say that rice has done a good job on iran and north korea. but rice was the public face of the administration's initial response to the attacks in benghazi, libya, saying that they were prompted by spontaneous protests, not terrorism, and she's come under fire from republicans. when asked about the possibility of rice as secretary of state, senator lindsey graham had this to say on "face the nation." >> i'm not entertaining promoting anybody that i think was involved with the benghazi debacle. we need to get to the bottom of it. the president has a lot of leeway with me and others when it
together a new cabinet for his second term, including a new cia director. so far only hillary clinton has confirmed she is going to leave. already republicans are objecting to her potential replacement. bill plante, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning in the west. cbs news has learned that the president will likely insist on nominating susan rice to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. white house sources say the president feels that he should be able to choose the cabinet members he wants and they say that rice has done a good job on iran and north korea. but rice was the public face of the administration's initial response to the attacks in benghazi, libya, saying that they were prompted by spontaneous protest, not terrorism, and she has come under fire from republicans. when asked about the possibility of rice as secretary of state, senator linds graham had this to say on "face the nation." >> i'm not entertaining promoting anybody that i think was involved with the benghazi d debacle. we need to get to the bottom of t the president
with prudent spending cuts that show fiscal responsibility. you know, don't forget bill crystal said last week on fox that when taxes were raised in the reagan administration, he didn't say when taxes were raised in the clinton administration. the economy took off. so i think leaders -- >> it's possible. it's definitely possible. >> talk about the spirit of compromise that he had mentioned. what does the president get here out of this in if he gets business leaders on board to get republicans to deal? if he gets them on board, will it force republicans to deal? >> we've seen repeatedly the republicans are seen on their own planetary orbit. if you get wealthy americans to say to them that you have to cut a deal, i think what is really important here is you need to show fiscal responsibility. there's 1 trillion to $2 trillion of gas sitting on the sidelines. and they want to be invested in this country, in growing businesses, in building new equipment. >> does this show us therefore we might be seeing what you just described? release some of the 1.2 trillion dlarz? >> if we can show fiscal respo