Submitted by Pozzle 1180d ago | opinion piece

Why Kinect is better than the PlayStation Move

Both PlayStation and Xbox have released wireless motion devices that correlate with the game system, enabling the user to navigate through various games without the traditional controller. Each one of these gaming giants took a different approach. Xbox created the completely hands free Kinect, making the user the controller. PlayStation stuck with the tried and proven approach of a wireless wand that the user holds, something akin to the Wii-mote.

Overall both systems have had a success with their new endeavours, but which one is better? (Kinect, Playstation Move, PS3, Xbox 360)

Wintersun616  +   1180d ago
Why do they have to be made specifically for Move to count? In my eyes games like KZ3, LBP2, InF2 etc getting Move support does raise it's appeal. Of course we do need more games for Move, but ignoring 90% of games you can play with Move and saying it only has 1 or 2 notable games seems very biased to me.

"The XBox 360 Kinect is truly the winner in this comparison. Not only does it win points for originality and superior features, but the games for the Kinect are truly amazing and utilize all of the features to their fullest potential."

Originality? Do your homework before posting articles like this on the internet, please. Sure it's improved a LOT over EyeToy, but the concept is very similar so no points for originality for either of these competitors, because Sony copied and improved the concept of Wii too. And the features.. Isn't accuracy and diversity good features when talking about gaming?

I don't really care for motion controls, but if I had to pick, I'd pick Move because it's more suitable for my hardcore gamer needs.
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stonecold3  +   1180d ago
nope if fact sony has the move in development way back early 2000 micorsoft took sony route with kinect the eyetoy was already out in 2002 whcih kinect has been done like 8 years ago.
Dante112  +   1180d ago
"Why Kinect is better than the PlayStation Move"

Because more casuals buy it right? More sales equals better?


They're both stagnant as far as functionality in my eyes (One doesn't work well with shooters, one isn't that equipped with fighter games).
death2smoochie  +   1179d ago
And Sony's Eye Toy was copied from Sega's DREAM EYE...
And Kinect concept was also done before by Sega and it was called the Activator well before the Eye Toy and Kinect.
Atari started all the motion controls with the Le Stick...
Nintendo was playing with motion controls back in the day of the Nintendo Power Glove.
Moral of this story? ALL companies copy one another.
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Army_of_Darkness  +   1179d ago
when kinect can handle and play every genre well like the move, while keeping high quality graphics, then sure... I can accept kinect being better...
But until then, this guy's opinion is just stupid.
darthv72  +   1179d ago
people seem to confuse kinect with the eyetoy
the eyetoy equivalent is actually the "live vision camera". A little known and marketed unit that was the same as the eyetoy.

Kinect is different in many ways but the notion of it being a camera is what people often associate with the pseye/eyetoy.

We should look at it like this. PS eye is the evolution to the eyetoy. Kinect is the evolution to the live vision camera. If we are doing comparatives i think it best we put them into the right perspectives.

On topic, kinect and move have much more to offer than what we are seeing now. The tacked on feeling of motion controls can all be blamed on nintendo and the wii.

Both MS and sony are filling the void between games that can be played with controllers (although given an alternate control scheme to use motion) and ones that are truly only playable by their respected motion units.

The argument can be made that motion cant be made to replace traditional controls but I say if given the chance to impress us. The day when we can put the controller down and actually step into the game will happen sooner than we think.
SoapShoes  +   1180d ago
Yeah I agree... Resistance 3(with the patch), KZ3, and Socom 4 are ALL great with the Move. It does not have to be move specific to count. That's like saying Killzone 3 isn't a dualshock game because it also uses the Move.
LOGICWINS  +   1180d ago
Killzone 3 is better with Move IMO. My accuracy is through the roof with it. I can get headshots easier and clear rooms much faster with the Move as opposed to the DS3.

But thats just my experience. Can't speak for other people.
Bleach  +   1180d ago
Microsoft, original? No. -

dantesparda  +   1179d ago
Look at that, that is blatantly what Kinect is. It just goes to show you that MS knows how to hype and market sh!t.
vyke3  +   1179d ago
ROFL they can't even bother putting an original name XD
Cenobia  +   1180d ago
You cannot move around in 3D space with the Kinect (beyond a ~4x4 foot space, or whatever). That is it's major limitation and why I do not personally think it is better than Move.

Your movement is extremely limited and you can't go anywhere without being on guided on rails. That is a huge limitation, imo, and why Kinect will be casual for 95% of it's games.

What Kinect needs for core games is 2 Wii-mote attachment type devices (wireless) that the player can hold in each hand. That way they can have 3D movement with analog sticks, and their hands are still free to move around. They could even add a few buttons for things you don't want to wave your arms around for, like choosing dialog, etc.
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WANNAGETHIGH  +   1179d ago
Lol @ saying kinect is original. They Eye Toy for the PS2 says hello!!!
gamingdroid  +   1179d ago
What about going one step further, the webcam!

Since we are there we could also just go back to the earliest cameras.

See where I'm heading with this....
DaTruth  +   1178d ago
But only one device has 150,000 "planted" articles claiming it's original!
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cpayne93  +   1179d ago
I like how he said that kinect has way better games but doesn't even name one.
Septic  +   1180d ago
To be honest, motion gaming has hardly taken off with hardcore gamers. It doesn't present a serious incentive to take on board and until it does, I couldn't care less which device is better.

I do believe motion-based gaming will lay the foundations for the way we interact with our games in the future, but for now, its still very much at its infancy for me to be excited about it.
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LOGICWINS  +   1180d ago
Depends on the game. For dance games and exercise, Kinect is better because it can track your entire body. Move is better for shooters.
THC CELL  +   1180d ago
Move is awesome Kinect is just over hyped i had a party of 10 people wanting to play kinect and it was just unplayable with that amount of people in the room

Move we played darts and had a blast and when they seen other games people was hooked for hours
JellyJelly   1179d ago | Immature | show
_Aarix_  +   1179d ago
You just hate the xbox. And anything involving it.
FunkMcnasty  +   1179d ago
Hey look another Troll comment from THC Cell, the biggest sony fanboy on N4G... moving on.

Anyway, I agree that the Move is better, even though I've played neither. At least the Move has peripherals.. Anyone seen the preview for the upcoming Kinect shooter "Blackwater"? I'd rather use the sharpshooter than mime like I'm holding an assault rifle.
will_c_75  +   1180d ago
To me the issue with Kinect, is the same one that I had with the Eyetoy. My blue eyes, are really sensitive to bright light. The amount of light needed to get these to work accurately, means I have to squint, or wear sunglasses. It just takes away from being able to really immerse yourself into the game.
Kurt Russell  +   1180d ago
Sorry, but no... both options added nothing to my gaming experience, and my hands grasp a button filled controller once again.
LOGICWINS  +   1180d ago
Have you tried either of them?
WooHooAlex  +   1180d ago
Seeing as how Kinect is a Dance Central machine, I'll take the one that I can at least play a proper shooter on.
Zechs34  +   1180d ago
What's wrong with Dance Central? :(

2 minutes, 2 disagrees, no reasons... this site's users are a joke. If it doesn't say CoD or BF3 or Uncharted 3, its not a real game. Gtfo.

Thanks Logic, at least you answered! :)
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LOGICWINS  +   1180d ago
VIKEME didn't say that anything was wrong with Dance Central. Clearly he/she just prefers shooters.
WooHooAlex  +   1180d ago
There is nothing wrong with Dance Central, I enjoy playing it at my buddies house when we invite more people over. But I would never want to play that game outside of parties or get-togethers. When I play games, I prefer playing alone. I own a PS Move and to be honest, it will probably never see much use outside of LittleBigPlanet 2 but its at least nice to have the option to play shooters. I may even play Bioshock Infinite with the Move.
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miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   1180d ago
Yep, just like when choosing which console to get COD or Battlefield on.. You get those shooters on 360. The better console for it. Just like VIKEME gets the Move to play a proper shooter for that type of controller....
WooHooAlex  +   1179d ago
Don't be stupid and color me as some fanboy. I got a move so I can play the definitive version of LittleBigPlanet 2. Having the option to play a shooter with the Move (if I want to) is just an added bonus.
Megaton  +   1180d ago
You're really just comparing bad with bad. Battle for the title of "least-worst".
SilentNegotiator  +   1179d ago
While I enjoy using Move for KZ3 and R3, I have to agree.

Move hasn't been used enough, and Kinect hasn't improved things other than maybe dance/fitness games.
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Ares90  +   1180d ago
Casual gamer opinion
don't care about motion gaming
SlipperyMooseCakes  +   1180d ago
I'm sure this article will go over great on this site...
Silly gameAr  +   1179d ago
Yeah, 360 gamers will love it. But, really, does anyone care anymore? I'm sure the people who own one or both are enjoying them, but to the vast majority that visit N4G, see this article as flamebait and use it as another reason to throw jabs at each other. Doesn't matter if it's just some random guys opinion.

So, yeah, this article will go over great on this site. For the guy who wrote it.
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GoldenPheasant  +   1180d ago
Have not had one of these thigh slappers in a while now. My oh my.
ZombieAssassin  +   1180d ago
A dual shock 3 or 360 gamepad put them both to shame for you know...hardcore gaming and not stupid gesture based onrail crap. I havent played 1 move game it improved (well maybe Planet Minigolf) and kinect is just a more accurate eyetoy and I hated that thing .
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Tanir  +   1180d ago
I laughed at the title, who ever likes kinect more than move obviously enjoys kinectimals.

move can be played with real games, now yes the Move only games aren't that special either but the fact that you can play uncharted, infamous, lbp, ninja gaiden 3, kz3 res 3 and much more mean its a win
Ares90  +   1179d ago
uncharted? :S
Sithlord-Gamble  +   1179d ago
Speaking of Ninja Gaiden 3: isn't that supporting PS MOVE? Isn't it the same game that developers passed on Kinect Support? Yea I thought so, but I forgot, this tool of an author thinks Kinect is better. What a joke.
Tanir  +   1179d ago
yeah ur right, it is using ps move. and not touching the kinect lol, people r blind
Noticeably_FAT  +   1179d ago
I think the fact that Microsoft is actually coming out with Kinect only games makes it better. They are putting serious effort into it. I own both a Kinect and Move, but I have to admit I'm disappointed with Move's lack of Move only titles, the PlayStation Hero's game was a joke and should have been great.

Where is Sorcery? That is the reason I bought a Move in the first place. Slapping secondary Move support on Killzone 3, Resistance 3 or other games doesn't cut it for me.

As for Kinect, they started slow, but I enjoy a wide array of games, Dance Central, Kinect Sports, Child Of Eden, GunStringer, Rise Of Nightmares are all solid.

It's all opinion and relative I guess, to each their own. That is just how I feel about it. Sometimes it feels like Sony doesn't even support Move, or they just have people slap Move support on a game that doesn't need it, kind of like 3-D support.
ProjectSiK  +   1179d ago
So you're upset because Sony is choosing to give their consumers a choice instead of separating their fanbase? I'm sorry but having the option to use a controller is fantastic for people who own move and for those who don't.

Just because a particular game doesn't "need" Move support doesn't mean it doesn't work.

I'll use No More Heroes/Extraction as an example. These games are best experienced as Move titles, however, if someone doesn't own Move they are still able to experience them.

Hell, even various shooters. Sony would be taking a HUGE risk making a Move only FPS. Instead, they choose to accommodate both Move adopters and people who haven't purchased a Move. It's a win/win situation and that's certainly nothing to complain about.

Edit: And 3D support is hardly "slapped on." If I owned a 3D TV the extra support would be more than welcome in my eyes. Unfortunately I don't own one but just because the OPTION is there doesn't mean I should complain about it.
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Noticeably_FAT  +   1179d ago
Well you'd expect Move only titles, I don't think many people are going to use a Move to play online games, which is probably why they are having trouble selling them now.

As an option I don't really care, I'm just not personally going to buy Killzone 3 for Move support or play it with Move.

I think options are good, but that isn't why I bought one.

As for 3-D, of course it's slapped on, Hollywood and the game industry are slapping 3-D on games and movies alike.
candystop  +   1179d ago
I agree with Noticeably_FAT and see exactly where he's coming from. To this day I have not seen any reason to get excited for Move other than footage of Sorcery! People are disagreeing with him because they somehow think Move is a game changer. At least Kinect has exclusives made for it with hybrids on the way. The only thing that sucks about Kinect is the fact you have to buy one to experience certain games. With Move you don't need one for anything and surely that's not good either lol.
ProjectSiK  +   1179d ago

People are disagreeing with him because he's wrong. You enjoy your on-rail shooters and dance games because that's all Kinect is ever going to have.


And those kid games.
ProjectSiK  +   1179d ago
See, you're generalizing an extremely large base of consumers. Just because you wouldn't play an online game with Move doesn't mean others won't. I happen to know many people, offline and online, who have a lot of fun playing Killzone 3, Socom 4, Resistance 3, Resident Evil 5 etc online with their Move.

There's a simple remedy to your problem with Move. Abandon your mentality that if it isn't only for Move then is isn't good for Move.

No matter what, Sony made the right choice by making sure everyone is capable of playing a game no matter what controller they prefer (Sure, there are and will be more exceptions down the line).

You enjoyed Kinect Sports but you didn't enjoy The Fight, Sport's Champion, The Shoot, Time Crisis, No More Heroes, Dead Space Extraction, Resident Evil 5?

C'mon man, give some games a chance before you completely disregard them solely because there's another way to play them.
Noticeably_FAT  +   1179d ago
I didn't really like Sports Champions, I played RE5 years before it had Move support, I played No More Hero's on Wii and have no interest to play the other titles you mentioned.

I hardly think you speak for Sony, so making the right choice is again relative. I played Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 and didn't play them with Move.

You are acting like I'm so bad or wrong because I want some Move only titles like Sorcery?

This place is such a joke, so hypocritical it's past the point of funny. If everyone who claimed they had a Move actually had one then they wouldn't constantly be in the bargain bin, where as Kinect is still selling fine at $149.

Clearly this is my last bubble, but it's been nice arguing with a deluded, insecure Sony fanboy all the same.
ProjectSiK  +   1179d ago
@Noticeably_FAT No need to be an ass just because you're wrong.

P.S. Sales aren't everything, buddy.
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ZombieAssassin  +   1179d ago

You do realize MS has to make them kinect only games because they pretty much have to be or they'd be completely lame...I mean are you gonna play kinectimals with a controller. Move works for every type of game so why not put it in.
dionnysus  +   1179d ago
it's funny that the title was more compelling than the article itself
TheGamingArt  +   1179d ago
Why I %100 disagree with this article.... no games...
M1chl  +   1179d ago
Having both and both could do much better in my opinion. I like kinect and i like move. Enjoying The Gunstringer game as well as shooting with move to chimeras. Both are completly different experience and in my eyes, it cannot be compared, which is better...
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   1179d ago
How can anyone think kinect has good games?
maybe some decent dance games but thats it.
That rise of nightmares game is crap i saw someone
playing it at eurogamer and it wasnt even responding to
the guys arm movements it was embarrassing.
Shadonic  +   1179d ago
I think that your all forgeting the point he's saying that he belives which one is better not which one was copied first. I mean i learned in simulation and game design that the real first motion game was done way before even the sega genisis so once you put that in there sony has copied a copy and so has microsft even though it does its thing in a much more precise and effetiant way that gives it a unlimited amount of possiblites for how its games could be played. Either way i agree with this guys post not because im a fanboy but because i already had a wii.
bredstick65  +   1179d ago
The best way to think about it is this.. .If you were going to be locked away in a room from the outside world. They gave you a choice between the Move and the Kinect including all games to bring with you. What would you pick?
tickticktick  +   1179d ago
There are like 10 people in all the world that own Move.
Ddouble  +   1179d ago
More like 9 Million.
Grodd  +   1179d ago
I'm a huge lightgun game fan, so for me its the move. The Kinect has zero interesting games for me. Some great examples of the move.

Killzone 3
Little Big Planet 2
The Shoot
Time Crisis (3 games pack)
Dangerous Hunts
Big Game Hunter 2012
Toy Story 3
Sports Champions
Dead Space Extraction
Heavy Rain
Resistance 3
Shadonic  +   1174d ago
heavy rain could of been done with kinect big game hunter is on kinect i think didn't know resistance 3 had move or toy story.
spektical  +   1179d ago
i have 2 moves, and i have to say, the Fight sucks.. the 1 to 1 ratio, isnt great.. im waiting for sorcery, hopefully that is AAA move only title.
Ddouble  +   1179d ago
Kinect is MS's own product and even they haven't made a hardcore game for it. It's only going to be good for casual games and tacked on features.
Shadonic  +   1174d ago
it can do hardcore it just needs to find the right way it would kick moves ass because of the immersion it gets but thats only if they add something for like movement like a joystiq or some joystiq with a trigger and an infrared light for aiming or they could just track the hand. only problem is movement.
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edonus  +   1179d ago
Kinect is better than MOVE, thats not to say MOVE isnt good or could do some great things, even things Kinect couldnt do but Kinect is a much better product. Kinect has more points of data, MOVE tracks the glowing ball the buttons and the tilt of the MOVE wand. Kinect tracks your entire body and all the degrees of movements through your joints.
Its more versatile Ubisoft said they made there own software that tracks silhouette as uposed to MS standard tech of skeletal tracking. This is a big deal because it shows Kinect is not locked into a box. Also the fact that it tracks full body opens up lots of potential for different game mechanics.
Kinect is also integrated into the 360 system and product better and is only getting better. Currently with Kinect I can control movies with a hand gesture or a quick voice command, the system recognizes me or my wife when we use it, when you start adding all those small things up it makes kinect feel like its suppose to be there. They are about to lauch an even more integrated system. MOVE is still basically a remote.
A big one is games....this one is tricky. If you just look at what games you can play with the device no matter what MOVE is a clear winner. It has integrated a controls scheme that can be used with MOVE in some of its biggest and well proven titles KZ3, RE3 and Resistence 3 to name a few.
But if you are talking about unique device based experiences then Kinect wins hands down. There are games that are designed specifically for Kinect that are experiences unlike anything you could get anywere else. Even its launch title Kinect Adventure is a totally unique experience, you are basically running a digital obstacle course theres nothing like that around.
Fitness and dance games are clearly better since as I stated earlier it tracks your entire body. As of recent they have began a push with more story driven core titles. Gunstringer is a great designed game that received great reviews. It is very unique and entertaining. Rise of Nightmares received lots of terrible scores, but is still pound for pound the most advanced motion control game you could ever play currently. A lot of people try to dismiss RoN based on it reception but the fact is (take it from someone that has played and beat the game) it works and is a stepping stone that shows how much can really be done with Kinect. Kinect also has way more support coming, they are integrating it into big title like ME3, and Forza4, making hybrid games like Steel Batalion, and still cranking out Kinect specific games like Power up Heores, Project Draco, Fable the Jounrey, Star Wars, Diabolical Pitch. As for MOVE I only know of two MOVE specific games and have no info on them, Sorcery, and the one they showed at E3.
There are a lot of false information that people spread about Kinect which MOVE doesnt seem to have that problem.
One is that Kinect doesnt work in the dark, this 100% false, it reads infrared so light doesnt matter. Two is it is not accurate, this is wrong kinect is extremely accurate. I have played with MOVE and Kinect, since I am not a liar I'll say I have played with Kinect a lot more but what I have found is that Kinect is as accurate fast and smooth as MOVE tracking. If MOVE is more accurate its not by enough to make a difference.

Another thing....stop looking at videos of people playing Kinect (and MOVE games for that matter) to guage there precision. Games are designed to conpensate input lag even controllers have it, if you looked at a video of someone playing a game with a controller and the screen you would see the samething, but its not about what you see it about what you feel.
InTheLab  +   1179d ago
@ Edonus

Here's why you're full of it...


and especially..

You only know of two Move specific games but you list hybrid games for Kinect? Motion optional games are just that. You can't throw away Killzone, Resistance, Socom4, inFAMOUS 2, Heavy Rain, LBP2...just because they're optional. All of these titles have full Move support.

It's funny how Mass Effect 3 and FM4 (GT5 also does head tracking) count as Kinect games despite Bioware and Turn 10 only using the most basic functions of Kinect, but Irrational Games gives Bioshock Infinite FULL Move support...but that doesn't count?

They showed off Dedmund's Quest and did not show off Sorcery. That was E3 2010. That just shows how much research you did before writing this love letter to Kinect.
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edonus  +   1179d ago
First, RoN does things that no other motion control has ever done because they dont even have the tech to. I know you ahvent played it and have no intetions too so I'll explain. This game requires full body movement and combine your movements seemlessly. An example of the new level of thinking you have to use to play agame like RoN, one section I heard lots of the reviewers that dogged RoN talked about was the first time you encoutered a screamer. The character is prompted to cover there ears to avoid damage, and at the same time a load of zombies attack you, if you remove your hands to fight them you take damage from the screamer. The problem is the players arent thinking of the freedom they have, you can kick. But kicking does very little damage so you cant fend of the zombies that way. Most of them end up running and just barely making it out alive after 4-8 tries. The proper solution is cover your ears walk to the screamer and kick her to stop screaming freeing your hands and letting you kill the screamer and other zombies with your effective attacks. This sound easy whe written but the pressure the game puts on most of people reviewing it caused them to break. That is the beuty of RoN its a test of a person true focus and consentration. Another great thing was the puzzle to get your magic fireball weapon. They give you a riddle and you have to strike a specific pose to pass....or die. This was basically a recreation of Indiana Jones and The last crusade. No other game could ever create a moment like that. I saw many people die because they couldnt think outside their regualr box, it was a flip the switch or color coded, or time event, it was something totally unique but that enough with RoN. Play it or leave it alone.

Second my description of the support was not throwing away the support that MOVE has but illustrating that Kinect support is really direct support for Kinect. MOVE is for the most part being supported as an add on, this means all the unique things MOVE could do or bring to the table arent being created, it has to fit into the mold of what a regular controller can do. And I never said Bioshock support doesnt count but its still not MOVE specific.

And the last thing you must have just not thought it out. I know of 2 games that are MOVE specific Sorcery and one they showed at E3.....I never said they showed Sorcery at E3. Dedmunds Quest is the one they showed at E3....I just forgot the name. But The point still stand 1=Sorcery 2=Dedmunds Quest.
cstyle  +   1179d ago
No doubt kinect is the superior technology. Just look at the way it is used. You use it with xbox live, games, video chat, voice enabled and so much more to come. Move is great at what it does which is basically a pointing device. Kinect is a true 3d sensing camera. Its very cool tech because you don'y have to buy extra hardware like the move. You can't even use move to navigate around psn like kinect does on live. Kinect is indeed the superior technology.
InTheLab  +   1179d ago
You actually can use Move to navigate the XMB. Both the nav controller and Move work. It even works while attached to the Sharp shooter.

Beyond that, it's hard to justify the price for Kinect when all it does is what you've outlined...and it only does a few of those well...
jneul  +   1178d ago
what a load of **********
Hicken  +   1178d ago
I sincerely hope this article doesn't get approved. It was honestly a waste of time reading.

Kinect DOES do some things better than the Move. But is it a better GAMING peripheral? You'd be hard-pressed convincing people the answer to that is "yes."

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