Bloomberg on the proposed Muslim community center

Discussion in 'Kiddie Korner' started by spike, Aug 7, 2010.

  1. Cerise

    Cerise Well-Known Member

    The issue is whether or not the Ground Zero imam is a moderate.

    I have posted several links pointing to the fact that by the behavior he demonstrates he is not. :shrug:
  2. 2minkey

    2minkey bootlicker

    i think you're the only one that you've convinced. but, then, if you saw a story about a muslim couple enjoying a nice dinner together, you would conclude that they were discussing plans to blow up innocent christian babies. what you've been posting in this thread could be readily shredded by any 7th grade debate team. at this point you're like greenpeace activists - so unrealistically out there that you undermine any credibility you might have had.
  3. spike

    spike New Member

    Everything you've posted so far has made him look very reasonable and moderate.

    You however, come off as a radical extremist with your thoughts of executing people based on religion.

    Tell me Cerise, are you cheering on all the new terrorism against Muslims or denouncing it?
  4. Cerise

    Cerise Well-Known Member

    Why do you and your 7th grade debate team choose to ignore these facts?

    Out of his own mouth in 2005. Such a moderate.

  5. Gonz

    Gonz molṑn labé Staff Member

    Is Eason Jordon in charge of lying there too?
  6. 2minkey

    2minkey bootlicker

    LOL you're still undermining yourself.

    the US DOES have more muslim blood on it's hands. at least 100,000 people have died in iraq. that is fact. he is a terrorist for simply understanding facts?

    and, BTW, the US has a long history of supporting oppressive regimes. batista, somosa, the saudi royal family, mubarek, the shah of iran, the list goes on and on. we've had a long history of supporting whomever so long as they were not commies. i must be a terrorist too because i am aware of these facts.

    he is a terrorist because he explains why he thinks people become suicide bombers? shit, most of the psychologists in the US must be terrorists because they've also speculated on that one. even the ones that work for the CIA! all terrorists!!!!!

    because he favors one state rather than a two-state solution for the israeli-palestinian issue?

    fuck, you've mentioned terrorism so many times here... YOU MUST BE A TERRORIST!!!!
    sorry, honey, but you just can't pull anything coherent together here.
  7. Cerise

    Cerise Well-Known Member

    Sooooo, that must mean you are a "moderate" moosie loving American?
  8. 2minkey

    2minkey bootlicker

    it doesn't mean anything other than that i have decent reading comprehension, some knowledge of history, and can evaluate things without ideological blinders.
  9. valkyrie

    valkyrie Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to dismiss your posts, cat. I never saw an answer to what I had asked. I apologize if you answered my question and I didn't see it. There's been a lot of trolling in this and other threads so it's been hard to keep up with the debate.

    I suppose my position on this is as so...
    If we can prevent these Muslims from opening their mosque and community center then the same can be done to other religions.

    This country has a firm foot in "freedom of religion." The 1st Amendment:

    The Muslims have every right, by law, to open their Mosque and religious based community center. Same as the Christians. :shrug:
  10. 2minkey

    2minkey bootlicker

    no val he just gave up because there wasn't anything to support his suspicions. but, cerise has done a fine job at deflating that boat, anyway, so no need to worry.
  11. ResearchMonkey

    ResearchMonkey Well-Known Member









    8- A Muslim who leaves Islam must be killed immediately.







    15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.




    19- Homosexuality is punishable by death.





    24- A woman inherits half what a man inherits.





    29- A woman loses custody if she remarries.







    Sharia for Dummies


  12. 2minkey

    2minkey bootlicker

    let's see a link/quote to him discussing the constitutional compliance of sharia.

    why do you care anyway? i saw a bunch things on that list that you're already in favor of. or maybe you're upset because they're more conservative than you?
  13. spike

    spike New Member

    I see the problem. Your going by a fear mongering radical extremist site for you understanding of Sharia.

    It be like if someone picked out all the most fucked up rules in christianity and portrayed that as everyday christian values. That's easy enough to do.

    Here's just a little Leviticus ( I don't think it's compatible with the Constitution):

  14. ResearchMonkey

    ResearchMonkey Well-Known Member

    Are making shit up you or just trolling again? ©spike

    Spike we all know, for a Catholic, you don't know shit about Christianity. You're irrelevant in that respect. BUT, while we are a nation built upon JudeoChristian values, we are not governed by Biblical law whereas Islam demand the government to be ruled under sharia.

    I know you can't help it, your hatred of Christian morality just kills you. Your point is invalid. Please try harder.

  15. spike

    spike New Member

    Actually I know more about Christianity then you likely ever will.

    In reality we're not built on JudeoChristian values. We're built on enlightenment values.

    No we are not governed by biblical law or sharia law and it looks lik most christians and muslims are fine with that. Some christians and muslims would like us to be governed by religious law though.

    I don't hate Christian morality, you however have displayed tremendous irrational bigotry against Muslims.

  16. catocom

    catocom Well-Known Member

  17. ResearchMonkey

    ResearchMonkey Well-Known Member

    No you don't. You constantly quote old testament, something happened to change ALL of that. Can you guess what that was?

    I'm impressed you actually hung onto something Minx said, GOOD JOB!. I just don't think you or minx grasp the entire concepts being promoted here.

    Correct, we have no state sponsored religion however the United States was founded on the JudeoChristian values.

    Let me help you word-clear the difference.

    We do not value the oppressive and violent Sharia law in the United States but we do value the JudeoChristian Value system in the United States.

    Oh Lord, you couldn't tell a bigger lie. You have a seething hatred of anything Christan, just the word offends you. You don't ever miss an opportunity to bash it.

    You are supporting Islam, you support a blood-thirsty 7th century religion that is at the heart of every war being waged on the planet.

    I think you only value Islam in an attempt to devalue the Christian morality that has for so long has condemned your personal values, or lack thereof.

  18. spike

    spike New Member

    Nothing changed all that. Some Christian sects choose not to emphasize it probably because it's so ridiculous but Jesus was certainly into it. Many other sects still teach from the Old Testament. Like the Muslim religion it kinda depends on the sect, country, culture, etc.

    "Jesus believed that the Old Testament was divinely inspired, the veritable Word of God. He said, "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35). He referred to Scripture as "the commandment of God" (Matthew 15:3) and as the "Word of God" (Matthew 15:6). He also indicated that it was indestructible: "Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" (Matthew 5:18). Notice that he mentions even the words and letters!

    When dealing with the people of His day, whether it was with the disciples or religious rulers, Jesus constantly referred to the Old Testament: "Have you not read that which was spoken to you by God?" (Matthew 22:31); "Yea; and have you never read, 'Out of the mouth of infants and nursing babes thou hast prepared praise for thyself'?" (Matthew 21:16, citing Psalm 8:2); and "Have you not read what David did?" (Matthew 12:3). Examples could be multiplied to demonstrate that Jesus was conversant with the Old Testament and its content. He quoted from it often and He trusted it totally."

    I'd be glad to quote ridiculous stuff from the New Testament too though. There's no shortage or anything.

    The concept being that you are ignoring all facts.

    No, enlightenment values.

    In reality Sharia Law and Biblical Law in general are not violent or oppressive. Both Sharia and Biblical law can be interpreted in a violent and oppressive way depending on your sect, country, culture, etc.

    In the United States we don't favor one religion over another. It's a core AMerican value.

    Ah, making up more crap. I'm not a fan of religion in general but I don't hate either of them. Both can be peaceful and both can be bloodthirsty. It's the bigots that think their religion is superior to others that cause most of the problems.

    My personal values are pretty in line with most of Jesus' teachings. You however don't seem to have much use for them and instead align yourself towards hatred and cheer for things like 100s of thousands of dead civilians that someone following Jesus' teachings would certainly condemn.
  19. ResearchMonkey

    ResearchMonkey Well-Known Member

    I wish you had the complex metacognitive skills of a 3rd grader. Keep smoking that dope.
  20. MrBishop

    MrBishop Well-Known Member

    What specifically is wrong with the YW/YMCA?

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