WEBVTT NOTE recognizability 0.920 NOTE language en-us 00:00:01.470 --> 00:00:06.270 It has been an emotional week for team usa gymnastics late yesterday the group 00:00:06.270 --> 00:00:08.980 announced that simone miles will not compete into 00:00:08.980 --> 00:00:13.730 ...for individual competitions...and the uneven bars 00:00:13.730 --> 00:00:17.260 ...twenty four-year-old jim this was a heavy favorite for the vault going into 00:00:17.260 --> 00:00:21.630 the games the final going into the games but she struggled during her time in tokyo 00:00:21.630 --> 00:00:26.310 ...explained on...but she has been dealing with something called the... 00:00:26.310 --> 00:00:28.510 It's a kind of mental block or 00:00:28.510 --> 00:00:33.970 gymnasts lose track of their positioning mid-air so mobile since decision to withdraw has put 00:00:33.970 --> 00:00:38.930 the long taboo issue of mental health front-and-center at this year's olympics 00:00:38.930 --> 00:00:43.820 are panels back with this...to start with you on this one I can't blame 00:00:43.820 --> 00:00:46.020 someone files for pulling out the way I think of 00:00:46.020 --> 00:00:50.730 it is imagine just going on a really rough roller coaster lots of flips and dives and upside 00:00:50.730 --> 00:00:54.110 ...twists and turns and the minute you get off the roller coaster someone says 00:00:54.110 --> 00:00:59.700 no do back flip if that scares you imagine doing like three-and-a-half triple back 00:00:59.700 --> 00:01:04.630 flips through the air standing still over and over that inability to know where 00:01:04.630 --> 00:01:06.700 your body's in space. 00:01:06.700 --> 00:01:10.570 I can't even fathom that I can't even...my brain around something like that which is why 00:01:10.570 --> 00:01:14.960 ...I am struggling around my brain around some of the criticism of small 00:01:14.960 --> 00:01:21.190 miles for dropping out I don't get it either she's actually known for that ability to see herself 00:01:21.190 --> 00:01:25.300 in the air to really know where she is that's why she can pull of those tricks that some of 00:01:25.300 --> 00:01:27.620 ...that some people say are too dangerous to 00:01:27.620 --> 00:01:31.690 do in competition because she has an enormous sense of self. 00:01:31.690 --> 00:01:34.410 I would say she still has an enormous sense itself and we 00:01:34.410 --> 00:01:38.780 use a roller coaster I thought you're going to talk about the emotional roller coaster she's been on that say 00:01:38.780 --> 00:01:43.270 we only known survivor of the disaster scandal the 00:01:43.270 --> 00:01:48.180 still competing and she also is a black woman in america...black woman in a really 00:01:48.180 --> 00:01:52.590 white olympics so she's got a lot on her so 00:01:52.590 --> 00:01:56.810 I think that we need to remember that also she's really special, 00:01:56.810 --> 00:02:01.280 special genesis and she's actually change the sport...gymnastics you change the culture of 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.370 ...not just...level of difficulty she performs that and this 00:02:05.370 --> 00:02:09.980 spirit she brings to this work that she has coaches that down or 00:02:09.980 --> 00:02:13.230 ...her if he makes a mistake she eats I 00:02:13.230 --> 00:02:17.630 understand what she actually talks about how and she enjoys food 00:02:17.630 --> 00:02:22.480 from her training regimen is much less intense that has been for genesis 00:02:22.480 --> 00:02:26.360 ...generations past so something I like to point out is that 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:28.940 he's actually been training to have the strength 00:02:28.940 --> 00:02:33.360 to step away from the olympics as much she she's been training...to get into 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:38.720 the olympics and she's really learn to value herself and I think that's a really great lesson for all 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:43.460 ...round with regards to the emotional roller coaster and a mention in terms of being a black woman 00:02:43.460 --> 00:02:47.620 ...in the washington post wrote this quote a different kind of pressure 00:02:47.620 --> 00:02:52.590 follows black women who achieving traditionally white spaces if they've had a realist for a 00:02:52.590 --> 00:02:56.470 mother since childhood they've heard the refrain they gotta work twice as hard to get half 00:02:56.470 --> 00:03:01.470 as much and if they spent two seconds in america and then they know that momma was 00:03:01.470 --> 00:03:07.130 right unquote I gotta say this factored in for me as well when I was just looking at what she was dealing 00:03:07.130 --> 00:03:11.910 with but not just the difficulty poise with which you dealt with it 00:03:11.910 --> 00:03:16.890 and the pressure I presume she feels to remain poised as she does it 00:03:16.890 --> 00:03:21.090 ...she knows little black girls are looking to her and 00:03:21.090 --> 00:03:27.320 seeing themselves reflected back absolutely and I'm glad that she made the decision that you did 00:03:27.320 --> 00:03:32.260 ...keep hopefully competing and keep doing gymnastics at the level she's doing 00:03:32.260 --> 00:03:35.160 had not risky. 00:03:35.160 --> 00:03:37.990 ...her literal neck try to collapse of the...does but, you know, 00:03:37.990 --> 00:03:43.650 she doesn't have it...just not going to be there I'm really proud of her for 00:03:43.650 --> 00:03:48.650 being able to take a step back and say look I know this is not going to be okay if I try this 00:03:48.650 --> 00:03:52.440 right now and I need you to believe me and thankfully like she's 00:03:52.440 --> 00:03:57.330 pointed out people around her believed her and that also important to see that 00:03:57.330 --> 00:04:01.380 she that people will see that no if you come and you say I'm not 00:04:01.380 --> 00:04:06.250 okay right now that people will say okay I understand let's 00:04:06.250 --> 00:04:10.940 ...back and make sure that you are all right and those kind of got to have around 00:04:10.940 --> 00:04:14.850 you the fact that she's pulled out from an even bars of gold makes total sense to me 00:04:14.850 --> 00:04:19.060 given the conditions that she's having right now volts you had 00:04:19.060 --> 00:04:23.760 near crash when she was in the file before she withdrew so not surprise people out there 00:04:23.760 --> 00:04:28.050 on even mars always been her weakest event of the four and I still get the chance on 00:04:28.050 --> 00:04:32.990 floor exercise which is your best and balancing...she doesn't have nearly as many twists in 00:04:32.990 --> 00:04:38.630 a routine and these other two events...I'm sure you heard about sl michael 00:04:38.630 --> 00:04:43.450 j who came under some fire for some jokes that he posted on...gram which, 00:04:43.450 --> 00:04:45.460 you know, comedians...they 00:04:45.460 --> 00:04:50.380 ...jokes...every aspect of life there are a few sacred cows in the world comedy but he got some 00:04:50.380 --> 00:04:55.280 flak for the things that he posted regarding simone by files ahead of 00:04:55.280 --> 00:04:59.600 stand-up show these doing in new york this weekend I don't know-how you see this 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:03.530 I tend to as...of a first amendment purists 00:05:03.530 --> 00:05:07.710 believe that you can say anything but you will 00:05:07.710 --> 00:05:12.670 own the consequences for if you will take responsibility for what you say 00:05:12.670 --> 00:05:17.260 first line of the nbc new standards we're responsible for everything we report on every medium 00:05:17.260 --> 00:05:22.200 including social media we're responsible so I can report anything I will if... 00:05:22.200 --> 00:05:27.170 only criticism ok that's on you you're free to say it but how do you 00:05:28.570 --> 00:05:33.160 ...increasingly comedians are more worried about their words simply if they work for 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.610 companies and of course che is that saturday night live and has 00:05:36.610 --> 00:05:40.300 ...kid can be concern there but like I always comedians, you know, 00:05:40.300 --> 00:05:44.710 these are my peers my entire career a different category they're comedians and if you don't understand that 00:05:44.710 --> 00:05:49.650 ...some of them are going to go for the...most shocking thing they can 00:05:49.650 --> 00:05:54.110 and I hope the profit from that's why earlier josh when you said I'm not sure who the, you know, 00:05:54.110 --> 00:05:57.050 the critics of some on vials...why they're doing this and, you know, 00:05:57.050 --> 00:06:00.230 you brought like you-know-who why would they...you know, 00:06:00.230 --> 00:06:04.100 why they're doing it we all know why they're doing it and people have been clamoring to 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:08.960 hear the point of view of another straight white guy this week from me so 00:06:08.960 --> 00:06:11.860 ...so...or as a former 00:06:11.860 --> 00:06:17.970 ...break dancer on the mobile...I don't care about what's 00:06:17.970 --> 00:06:21.570 ...business but twisty...interesting here about what that is 00:06:21.570 --> 00:06:26.400 her she is the most amazing gymnast ever unless you can fly 00:06:26.400 --> 00:06:30.810 then don't criticize her I would say but number...mental help this is such 00:06:30.810 --> 00:06:35.600 an important issues such could do is I think the critics are far fewer and they're the same type 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:37.550 of guy the thing...guy was criticizing 00:06:37.550 --> 00:06:42.380 ...for becoming emotional for having emotions they're not that many most people are supportive 00:06:42.380 --> 00:06:47.500 of what she's doing I think this is really important to mention that the there's been a real 00:06:47.500 --> 00:06:53.110 groundswell of support for what she's doing and finally I,... sally jenkins run washing 00:06:53.110 --> 00:06:57.860 poses a parallelism deborah to try to interpret what her prerogative is but I'll give a shot, 00:06:57.860 --> 00:07:02.210 you know, as anna so rightly said she is one...the only member of the team who was part of 00:07:02.210 --> 00:07:06.580 ...abuse a victim of his abuse she's gotta be conflicted just working with 00:07:06.580 --> 00:07:09.070 usa gymnastics while they're still in court 00:07:09.070 --> 00:07:14.320 trying to evade responsibility and frankly this is probably perilous and on fair but, 00:07:14.320 --> 00:07:19.140 you know, she's a black american there's a lot of confusion about competing under that flag right now 00:07:19.140 --> 00:07:24.400 ...they're trying to take black folks vote away and the white guy the panel to say that so I'll shut up now...I hear 00:07:24.400 --> 00:07:29.110 you white guy on panel I...being here and taking on that very lofty mental last 00:07:29.110 --> 00:07:34.040 few seconds and I wonder if you think that the change in terms of our conversation mental health is going to stick or is 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:38.250 this kind of kind of go away when the torch goes out in a few weeks before we 00:07:38.250 --> 00:07:43.510 ...stick...on this one is that... 00:07:43.510 --> 00:07:48.240 I hope so I mean she's really inspired me I can't say I know what it's like to compete in front of 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:53.210 millions of people and to compete at that level but I know and it's like to feel like if I do the wrong 00:07:53.210 --> 00:07:58.020 thing all this point everyone that loves me and I think what simone...shown all of us is that 00:07:58.020 --> 00:08:02.500 we come before other people's expectations and I'm going to take that 00:08:02.500 --> 00:08:03.620 chart. 00:08:03.620 --> 00:08:08.710 Yeah, I appreciate you sharing that I think we can all share a few beers at the bar and 00:08:08.710 --> 00:08:14.430 our stories about living up to other people's expectations I am it takes a 00:08:14.430 --> 00:08:18.880 while to learn that the people who love you their love is not conditioned on what you 00:08:18.880 --> 00:08:23.970 do it's only about that who you are and that you are that is where the love comes from 00:08:23.970 --> 00:08:28.310 ...miles never does another of flip through the air girl we angle 00:08:28.310 --> 00:08:33.790 love you any less...not stand you any less if you never flip through the air again.