DCNupe83 1 point2 points 6 months ago


Rokk-E 0 points1 point 6 months ago

Well help its employees. Sometimes it can be mutually benefitial to non unionized workers if it includes stuff like certain safety standards or work hours.

However rules that prevent me from doing the unionized workers job if they’re not doing it, denying me access to equipment, reducing the ability of the union works themselves, etc are not cool. Shit I remember the stories from Pathmark about just unloading the trucks. Yikes.

Additionally forcing me to pay union fees for something I’m not part of, though that has been struck down in some areas.

Also some rules regarding senority are a major turn off, especially for people my age. I’m better of work as a group in a small contracting company or even independent, where my mobility is a bit more fluid. Though if a new union pops up without those issues and no corruption problems I’d join it.

zcaveman3598 -1 points0 points 6 months ago

Not a personal experience, but a buddy of mine told me a story once about how his father worked for at a car manufacturing factory up in Michigan. The union went on strike and if you tried to go around them to acquire a job at said factory, then the people who were a part of the union would beat the shit out of you. Not saying it is specifically on the union itself, but anyone who says the union only cares about you is a liar. They are people, and like people they suffer from greed. It’s the same reason communism has so many flaws.

DCNupe83 1 point2 points 6 months ago

Dude...the whole point of a union is to fight for better pay, conditions, etc. If you’re willing to cross the line, then that shows you are on managements side and think everything is fine. The whole point of a union is solidarity and you crossing the line doesn’t benefit anyone but yourself.

zcaveman3598 0 points1 point 6 months ago

You’re question was if the union ever deprived someone of a job, my response was a story of the union stopping people from getting a job through the use of physical violence. If you go on strike for a higher paying salary, but someone else is willing to take the job, who’s right is it to tell the person they cannot work for that amount. Now, let’s be real, nobody should settle for the bare minimum when it comes to pay, but nobody should be able to tell them they can’t unless it goes against some form of state or federal law.

DCNupe83 0 points1 point 6 months ago

But you still have a job. You do realize that a union pays you while you’re on strike right? That’s why you pay dues, to cover employees during a time of strike.

ThrowAwayAcct0000 1 point2 points 6 months ago

Fucking scab