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Bite me. Welcome to democracy.






Darn it, I already voted Kerry. :)

*scattered thoughts follow*

Seriously, I hear where you're coming from. However, I look at the quality of a child's life once it is born. Does she have access to the type of health care and education we take for granted? Do her parents have a chance with a job that pays enough to provide for her? If she joines the military, will they be trained and equipped properly as they go to war? Is the water and food she eats safe to drink/eat? Matthew 25. Isaiah 58.

I can't ever imagine any circumstance deciding to have an abortion myself. (well probably rape) I have too many friends and family who have been unable to have children. I tell myself that if a friend were pregnant, I would take her in and help.


Then again, I don't know if I want to have children myself.


Is it our duty to second guess the life that God created?
And how can we KNOW the quality of life?
I don't mean that at all. I was trying to imply that when voting it's important to consider government policies that affect children after they're born as well before they're born.
I've never thought it was the government's job to take care of people's well being. Seems to me that the bible was pretty clear that the job belonged to the Church. :)
Unfortunately, the Church abdicated that responsibility. Wonder when Christians will realize that they have lost an integral part of their service to the Lord in that abdication?
I'm not sure which is harder, getting more Christians to take the job back up, or getting the general population to understand that they don't need the government programs.
It's a toss up, but I'd put my money on the latter now.
Don't need the programs? So next time, for example, one of my immediate family members can't work because of illness, you'd be willing to kick in the $800 a month that Social Security would normally pay?

Or would you mind paying my aunt and uncle's rent while they try and find a job.

They're Jewish btw.

What do you mean? Christians today represent the offering of over 80% of the aid given both foreign and domestically. If the Church stopped giving tomorrow, do you realize how many thousands of shelters, food programs, welfare to work, counseling programs would shut down?

We can always do more, but to suggest that we've 'abdicated' this role in caring for the poor is grossly inaccurate.
But it's the goverment's job to take care of people's well beings before they are born?

In so much (is that one word) as it's their job to prevent people from harming others. Yes.


With all due respect, this is nonsense. I'm getting really tired of this rhetoric, so I apologize if I come across as abrupt, but it's just inaccurate.

Christian giving via church and aid agencies like constitutes over EIGHTY percent of the aid offered to children of all religions, ethnicities and genders, both here and domestically. They quite literally, keep the doors of most shelters open that are not funded by the government, which count into the thousands in America.

You should ask yourself who would step up and replaces these funds if Christians weren't giving what they give now.

If christians stopped giving the way they do now - not just of their money but of their time - who do you suppose would fill the gap? How badly off would children who are helped fare?