{"content":[{"text":"Religion claims you must forgive and love the sinner but hate the sin. If sin and sinner are that separate then you can \n forgive the sinner and not forgive the sin! That point shows how ludicrous the claim is. But let us forget that for the \n moment.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":-0.00023,"width":0.938632,"height":0.047854}},{"text":"What comes first? Loving the sinner? Hating the sin? Can you do both? If you can, then human nature means you are going \n to do one more than the other or one or the other.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.063909,"width":0.9960530000000001,"height":0.031819000000000014}},{"text":"The Church says you have to do the two equally at the one time. It says that if you love the sinner more than you hate the \n sin then it follows that you don't really think the sin is that bad for the sinner or that harmful. They reason that if you love \n the sinner you will hate the sin in which he harms his virtue and his happiness and wellbeing. If you hate the sin more than \n you love the sinner then it follows that you hate the sinner. You cannot hate anybody unless you admire them in some way.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.112014,"width":0.9882810000000001,"height":0.063888}},{"text":"Are there many people that can balance the two? And if they do then one will outweigh the other maybe in five minutes! \n Many will imagine that they can balance them and be wrong. It is dangerous to hate a person and think you actually love \n them. The doctrine of love the sinner and hate sin does great harm. Even if it is good in theory, its results are not theory but \n real and bad.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.192188,"width":0.991521,"height":0.06388800000000003}},{"text":"Religion gives absolutely no help at all in balancing them. Human nature will keep loving the sinner one minute and hating \n her for her sin the next.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.272362,"width":0.992791,"height":0.03181800000000001}},{"text":"The two cannot be balanced and religion has no business saying. \"To love the sinner is to hate the sin and vice versa.\" They \n are not the same they are two separate things that religion attempts to relate or connect together.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.320466,"width":0.993844,"height":0.03181900000000004}},{"text":"Suppose Satan needed medicine to live. If Jesus cares about his wellbeing and not his sins or how dangerous he is he will \n give him the medicine. If Jesus is afraid to help him for he will recover and do terrible harm to others he might refrain for \n their sake. That would mean that anybody loving you and hating your sins is not necessarily going to help you or work for \n your wellbeing. So it is odd why people take consolation from the love the sinner and hate the sin doctrine. The love is not \n about the other person's wellbeing at all but about them.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.36857,"width":0.986703,"height":0.07992300000000002}},{"text":"It is NEVER the bad act we hate but what the person has become in doing the act. So hating the sin is impossible. What is \n possible is hating the sinner. Hate the sin is a polite way of telling us to hate the sinner and to lie to ourselves that we hate \n the act not the person. We have to harm ourselves by a passive-aggressive attempt to pretend that our anger against the \n person is directed at the sin not the person.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.464779,"width":0.982239,"height":0.063888}},{"text":"The sin becomes the person as it were. Religion says you hate the sin because you love the person. Loving the sinner will \n come before hating the sin and is more important so the sin will be treated as unimportant or even nice. If we are to love the \n sinner and hate the sin then we are to love the sin if the sin is the person. This is wholly incoherent.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.544953,"width":0.997721,"height":0.047853000000000034}},{"text":"Anger involves a crave to exaggerate a person's faults and wrongdoings. To bury it makes it more dangerous for then it \n festers and cannot be dealt with when its presence is disguised. With anger, you fuel the horrible feeling of resentment and \n wanting to hurt another. That in itself is making the person out to be more worthy of anger than what they really are. Anger \n always inflates your perception of how bad the other person is. The anger will be stronger than your alleged love for the \n sinner. The love is not a passionate love and the anger is passionate.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.609092,"width":0.9911139999999999,"height":0.07992300000000008}},{"text":"Jesus said we should prefer to lose an eye than to sin with it. If we love the sinner and hate the sin then the worse we make \n sin out to be the harder its going to be to love the sinner. We can hate the act of murder if we see it as the murderer \n degrading himself and taking the life of another and as an attack on society and law and order and as bringing grief to the \n family and friends of both victim and killer. But if we see murder as a sin against God - and especially a God that is \n supposed to have incarnated as a man to die for our sins - we are making the sin out to be worse than what it is.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.705301,"width":0.987654,"height":0.07992300000000008}},{"text":"If God should be loved first of all, above all things, it follows that hating the sin is more important than loving the sinner. \n Why? Because, he hates sin infinitely and not to hate what he hates would not be putting him first. If you hate the sin more \n than you love the person then you might as well hate the person too for your attitude will be hurtful to him and will lead to \n you losing sight of him being a person. Religion encourage righteous anger when people do not serve God's cause or love \n him.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.801509,"width":0.989948,"height":0.07992299999999997}},{"text":"Religion is based on the notion that we must avoid sin and hate it. If its not worthy of hate, then its no big deal. We should \n then just fine the murderer a few dollars and then say, \"He is mostly good. The evil is only a drop of dirt in the ocean of his \n goodness.\" The religious claim that we must hate the sin because we love the sinner is a bizarre one. They should admit \n they advocate hating the sin in spite of the loving the sinner. But that would be admitting that they try to make it difficult to \n love the sinner.","bbox":{"left":0.0,"top":0.897718,"width":0.9934409999999999,"height":0.07992299999999997}}],"images_bbox":[],"images_bbox_not_text_overlap":[]}