One reason MGTOW exists as a sub is for new comers fresh from the good ship Blue Pill to unload, vent, and Q&A.   PPD is a step toward Red Pill, but Red Pill is not MGTOW. PPD is recognition that the "equal rights" touted by feminist pigs have nothing to do with equality or honest goals. RP is recognition that the cunt hunt is about conquering booty, not equality or building relationships.   MGTOW is beyond the cunt hunt, recognizing that playing social games for gender posture, jumping through hoops to understand females, or settling for a place in line to get pussy, are mere survival, and an unacceptable waste of time, resources and life. MGTOW focuses on the health, wealth and happiness of the individual man, to better himself before sacrificing for anything or anyone else. Once a man realizes that pussy is a distraction from getting what he wants out of life, the learning curve into MGTOW is step-by-step.