&gt; You honestly don't think the righteous believers in those countries didn't think exactly the same way you do? Uh yeah. Because those 'righteous believers', were Marxist-Lenists. That sect of Socialism believes in a transitional stage where the State controls the means of production and prepares the people for Communism, which is the stateless, classless, moneyless system that will ultimately succeed the status quo. &gt;If the theory is good but the practice is bad, then the theory isn't really good. Oh this old fucking chestnut. The theory is excellent and it's never occurred because you cannot have Socialism in one country. Socialism doesn't work that way, it cannot exist within the framework of Global Capitalism. Please stop trying to sound intelligent, rather *become* intelligent by reading. I recommend Das Kapital, have fun. &gt;How many millions more have to die to prove to you that the experiment disproves the hypothesis? And another chestnut. It's not a hypothesis, and what those countries did was not Communism. I'm not interested in engaging with you on the merits of Authoritarian State Capitalism with you friend.