FE8.19. THE NATIONAL REGISIIIII the North American coast, and on the African the same squa dron as in the last peace With respect to our home station, there would be nine small vessels, in addition. for the purpose protecting the revenue against smugglers. Circumstances would call for a larger number of men to man tbese vessels, iii point ofsize, had been int:re:own from 28 and 32 gun frigates to 36 and 38. It was also intended to retain the 4th division of marines, which, with the increased complement of seamen, would make a total increase of men of .5000. This was owing to the great increase and growing prosperity of our foreign trade. It was understood that the permanent Peace Establkhment was to be 23,000, which !number was less than at the close of any preceding war. The vote, which however he should now call f or , was 33,090, front the circumstances he h a d jnst stated. He had to claim credit of the House for the guard of Admiralty, for the rapidity with which ships had been paid off, and also with which the peace ships had been manned, the number wanting to complete them being only 4,000. The number of ships manned were, tfto guns, ii frigates, and 27 sloops. The lion. Haronet then moved, •"fliat 33,011 seamen, including 9,990 royal marines, be granted for the ser vice of the year." .. • . . Mr. PoNSONBY would not object to the vote of 33,000, 'taking the necessity for the number on the responsibility of the Go vernment. He could not avoid observing on the call for 33,000 as a permanent peace establishment. The regular number in former wars was 16,000 or 15,900. There was no tear of at tack. We were differently situated at the close of the Ameri can war, when the combined fleets of the enemy rode trium phant, and compelled the British fleet to seek shelter in our harbours. France, at that time, had as many ships as Great Britain ; united with Spain, more. If it 4,000 men were enough, why vote 23,000 now. There was now no appearance of u formidable navy. The whole of the'Powers, if they were to be united, could not produce 25 sail of the line. The Right Hon. Gentleman suggested the necessity of making some ad dition to the pay of naval officers, instead of keeping up so large an establishment. treaty which he bad been induced to sign wh.le in a state of fered ;-or, being aware that they haul interfered in some way. duress All his thoughts seemed devoted to the s tudy of th e , s h ou ld not h a i e en d eavoure d to s p ew, that the kind of inter means - by which he might overthrow the Regency and the Cor. ference which he recommended was better than what had been tes, which, as the allies of England, had so effectually laboured adopted. He aoula not consider the speech of the Hon. Gen for the salvation of Spain. The Cortes ref use d to ratify th e tlenein as calculated to lay down auy principles on the subject treaty which Ferdinand bad concluded with Blionaparte, be- which it would be wise to practise, with a view to the interests cause it was inconsistent with good faith to England, as it went of either country. He had indeed heard it sometimes said, that against the stipulations of that concluded with this country by In the profession to which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman Admiral Apodaca in lam. They treaty of Mei they adhered belonged, it was not uncommon, in the defence of a diem, to to; and this it had been the object of Ferdinand to break, and sacrifice his interests, for the sake of making a display of la- • indeed to dissolve all the arrangements which had served to lent. Certainly in the present cast, with a view to the into knit the two countries together. He apprehended it nits rests of those individuals on whose unfortunate situation the unnecessary to pursue further the conduct of Ferdinand t o question arose, nothin g cou ld b e more una d v i sa b le than any prove the present to be a case which called fur our inter- interference on the principles which the Hon. Gentleman had ference ; when be had cruelly punished those who were laid down. If the Hon. Gentleman thought of any thing short united with us in war and in council, in Iris behalf ; who h a d of interference by force of arms, there ' never was a speech not only made this ungrateful return to them, but who had more calculated to defeat the end proposed, and to make Par. given up the treaty which had been negociated in favour of fitment see the utter inexpediency of the measures which it this country. lie wished not to by utinecessarily minute in recommended. Without thunding himself on auy accurate in noticing the punishments which had taken place. It was formation, the Hon. Gentleman had made imputations against however right to state, shot 27 Members of the Cortes, and two the personage on the throne °familia ; and, substituting on this of the Regency, had been consigned to dungeons; and besides, occasion a reasoned invective fur the asserted one which be a great variety of persons, in private stations, who had attached had on a former occasion employed, lie had endeavoured to themselves to the patriotic cause. These, after remaining 10 prove, that the King of Spain was acting on a course of settled or 20 months in confinement, without being brought to trial, hostility to this country; that he, was a voluntary party to the Ferdinand, as if to take away that complaint, had ordered to 'Treaty of Valency, against Great Britain and her allies ; that he brought to trial, and had accordingly signed a commission lie had returned to Spain with the settled purpose of carrying rim that purpose. Three commissions,one alter another,had bees the treaty into execution, and that he was now proceeding iu signed by his Catholic Majesty, by which those persons were the accomplishment of his design. This was the ground on sent to be tried, not before men selected from the great body which the Hon. Member called upon the House to interfere.- of the people, but before creatures supposed to be subservient (Hear, hear, hear.) But the House would feel, that in order to to his views, and by them to be sentenced to punishment, or mak e . interference effectual, it was no t t h e proper way to begin acquitted, according to the nature of their case, o n i nqu i ry , by insulting and degrading the person of the Spani s h molten: - h. It had further pleased his Catholic Majesty to review their -(lleardisar.)-If the Hon. Gentleman thought it was the duty sentences, and to proclaim to the world, either that these crea- of this House to embroil the country in any dispute ea to tips titres were not disposed to be sufficientlysubservient to his views, merits or demerits of the members of factions in foreign coma or that they had miscalculated the point at which they concluded tries, he trusted he would meet with few in this country to his animosity would stop, by taking the work out of their hands. countenanee such an opinion. With a view to the benefit of Some of the punishments would nevertheless have been thought those individuals in Spain, whose sufferings he was sure every sufficiently severe in this country. Several of the patriots had Member of the House agreed in deploring, the course which been sentenced to two years' imprisonment, and others were the Hon. Gentleman had taken, was the lust to be expected ordered to confinement for a longer period. One person, a poor from a man of his understanding.-His Lordship stated, that tradesman, who haul proved himself friendly to England on all from the first moment of Ferdinand's entrance MM Spain, the occasions, and who had been active in promoting political British Alubassadur, Sir Henry Wellesley, hail applied to bins discussions on the conduct of the Government, was sen. of his own accord, and afterwards, with the full authorization fenced by these tribunals to four years' imprisonment,- of Government, to induce him to accept the Constitution of flue o Wh at said Ferdinand, on seeing this sentence, " only Cortes, and to spew lenity towards the Liberates. If any fault four years' imprisonment, for a wretch who had presumed had been committed, it was in g g farther than the rights of to speak in public on polities. '-(A laugh.) He immediately an idly justified. It had been officially notified to the King of , nndertoek to revise this sentence, and, takings more en- Spam, that no money should be p a id hi m , neither was any 1110- larged and legitimate view of the subject, he immediately nay paid him, in consequence of his conduct, with the exeePa struck out the first assigned doom of this nufertunate man, who tutu of 4000 dollars fur table-expenses during his journey from was a cripple, with his own hand, and ordered him to be France to Spain, which had b een a d vance d at t h e request o f hanged. (clear, hear, ham) The public, however-he meant oneot . the chiefs of the Liberat es . 'Elie representations in be the scum of Madrid, with whom Ferdinand was popular-(a hal f of the persecuted, wbo, in their day of power, had also been mound - ill proof of the assertion that that country fares ill where Persecutors, hail out been confi ne d t o thi s country . 'Th e Mi the Monarch had the mob for his ally), even these, his Majesty's testers of the three great continental Powers, our allies, had own rabble. had rescued this poor man from death, and the hem" instructed at the Court of Madrid ; and the prescut nut punishment haul in COOSCqUellee been commuted for imprison- nun was likely rather to defeat than to forward the views with ment torten years. While speaking attic cruelty of the punish. winch' we had interfered- A s t o V eneral Whittingham, who ments inflicted, he thought it might be proper to mention the had distinguished himself in seemed battles, amid sacrificed n a me of the virtuous, the patriotic Arguelles, whose fate could brighter prospects here to the cause of Spain, which he had not be contemplated but with pain mud indignation. Arguellaa, espoused at its earliest dawn, was he to be blamed for obeying the most enlightened, the most eloquent of the patriots, whose the orders of his superiors, w h en h e did no t even k now w h at eloquence had always been devoted to the right cause, who has their object was? On these grounds, be never found himself always raised his voice In praise of liberty; In favour of the called upon to give a more paramount or stronger uegadve to alliance with this country ; against the Inquisition, and against anv motion.-(Lead and continued cheering.) the African Slave Trade; Arguelles was .condemned to serve Lord Jown tteassu..saw no reason why interference should as a comoionaoldier to the garrison of Cewhineedi had been sent not he enemas. little further. to his pestilential dungeon on the coast of Africa, within sight Alderman C. Sai tau, on the authority of letters which he had • of a fortress belonging to (hie es/nutty-that of Gibraltar. It received from the most respectable characters iu Spain, ex was now for the House to determine, whether this was a cause pressed his conviction, that the people of this countr y were which called the their interference. He bad 'hewn th a t thi s glide mistaken as to the state of affairs in that nation. lliere country had interfered times oat of number in other cases; at was not a more Popular monarch in Europe, nor one to whom this moment an army was maintained in France for the express his subjects were more devotedly attached than Ferdinand, purpose of interfering in the concerns of that country, LA they Gen. alasritews said; that F--d was u u —r, an odious had it under the heed of the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Cass and detestable tn--r.--( faighter.) The speech of the Noble tiereagh). This interference was must extensive, and the Lord was intended by his Lordship to close the mouths of all whole Freud' police might be said to be under the control of those w ho were not min the same Aide of the Hou s e ; b u t no the Mike of Wellington. It was then for the House to say, thing could be said by the Noble Lord to shut the mouths of whale this line of conduct was pursued in Cue quarter, whether those on his (General Mathews') side of the House, or to alt e r we might not to use our weight and influence to relieve those their opinious.-(Loughtera They nould raise their voices who, bs actin!! in concert with this country, had been brought against the iniquitous acts of that iniquitous r F---- - into distress elsewhere for the good faith which they had ob- whom he hoped to tee hurled from his ill-gotten and blood served with us. stained t—e. Mr. BROLGHAM charged Ministers not only with total in. Mr. litassinrr defended the conduct of the Liberates., who difference to the fate of the Cortes and Liberals*, but with bay. had not acted against the interests of this country. He main- Mg paid the troops which Ferdinand employed uguinkt them; taiueul the right of interference on the partof the House. He and promoted the officers who executed his orders. in eau. also should s like to know what person, or what Minister, bad lug for interference, however, he did not wish to break the re- comiselled the sending the. Order of the Garter to Ferdinand rations of amity which subsisted between this country and a VII. although, to be sure, an honour had been ruceived in ',emu of the sort he haul described. lie did not mean that return. threats or menaces should be resorted to-lie ilid,not mean that Mr. BROUGHAM perceived, from the declaration of the we should tell him what we had effected for his interest and se. Noble Lord, with no small astonishment, that the country MO curity-which would be ungenerone-no--he wished that an interfered all along, had sent instructions to her Ministers, and appeal should he made to Fertliaisuiles apprehensions. He wanted in nothing to the unfortunate Liberates ;in fact, that ought to be led to consult his own prudential polies-a princi_ the object which he had thought to gain by his motion, haul at pie of which he did not suppose him destitute. Such a lessen ready been attempted. But how could he divine that such should be given as would make him reflect on a great mud seri- MAR the reality? When a notice bail been given, and souse oils truth, which he (Mr. Broitaltans) would express, nut in his conversation had taken place on the subject, the Noble Lord own words, butt in the words of a Minister, who had wjiispered bad preserved a dead silence, fur the purpose, 110 doubt, Of it in the ear of one of Ferdinand's predecessors-" that His eittrappiug his opponents by their silence into the present um. Majesty had but two enemies- one of whom was the whole nun: which lie should not press if the intertarenee of Govern. world-end the other his own Ministers !" lu conclusion, the melt had taken place after December, when the last violent learned gentleman observed, that, happily for the interests of proceeding of Ferdinand against the Li berates had occurred; taut humanity, there was one place in which the trnthinight boldly the results of our efforts (amid not then be known. If before • be epokran-te here the crimes of Sovereigns rnicht be arraigned that period, he would persist in hie motiou, as it would be clear -wh e re the oppressed alight be vindicatradanid that it oppress's,s that the exertions of Government had failed. rolled to an account-sad that place was, the COMBILOII3 House Mr. W etteettsv Pote maintained. that his Nibble Friend of Great Britain I- -(lieur.)-lie then moved- had clearly stated, that f rom the moment of Ferdinand's en "'That an humble address be presented to the Prince Regent, trance iuto Spain, Government haul used its best offices in fa entreating Hie Hovel Highness to take into hi- gracious comas 110111' sit' the Members of the Cortes and the Liberates. He &ration:de. sufferings of the late Spanish Regency and Curtis; therefore wondered at the surprise the Hon. Gentleman had and representing to his Royal Hi g hness, that the Allinnec at expressed. It was true, that he had not a scat in the House last ',resent subsisting between his Royal Iligaess and his Catholic year; but his friends ought to have informed him, that two or Majesty, affords the most favourable opportunity for the inter. three times during the last Session, in answer to a Member ference of Great Britain, with all the weight which belongs to now no more, be (Mr. W. Pole) had explained, that from the the country and to the sentiments of that House." moment Sir Henry Wellesley had met the King di Spain itt Ve- Lord C4STLEREAGII.-111 the whole course of his parliamen- tenets, he had left nothing untried to persuade him to accept Lary experience, he never recollected to hare met with any the Constitution, and to treat the Liberates with mildness. It Mier that surprised lens more than the native of the motion was therefore hardly poseibk that the Gentleman opposite with es - hiele the lion. Member hail conclusleithismetsch. The should ten have known the coarse adopted by Government. lion. Gentlemen, although he had entered Ma wick at large The Liberates thensselgca were coastline", that all that was into the doctrine et interferenee-altineigh he hadsaid SO miteh possible had been attempted in their cause ; and thatwas so no to prove that iaterference might be effectual; yet in his motion t ohms, both in Spain and in One ',wintry, that he was astonished there was not one word of entreaty to his Royal Highness the the Hon. Gent. should not have informed himself of the fact Prince Regent to act en the principle's laid down in the Speech, before be had brought his motion. Government had interfered -there Was no prayer (hr interference. It was certainly most from the first moment : but if he thought proper to persevere extraordinary that the Hue, Gentleman, entertabiing the sem in his appeal to the House, let his go on, only let him not my timent% which he had expressed, should have spoken so strongly that they were taken by surprise. He would add, abet ft was in rayon,' of interference, without taking the triable so make the opinion of Sir Henry Wellesley himself, that the language kuv r whether or not the British G orerinstrat had intrr• used la Ibis game y, and the attempts made in this 110011114. -,,, t4.2*. •„;,.- . ; ' • ,Il -' --- ... . . . • . IR 1 FEB .19. Tilt NATIONAL REGlserrit. - . ..... . ...... g , , _.........------- ...... Or the the North Anu•rican coast, and on the African the sam e ' , qua treaty which he had b een i n d uce d to s i gn whde in a state of fered ;--or ' being aware that th e y hail iliterfered in some way , th ere dron as in the last peace With respi•et to our home swum, duress. All hi s tho ug ht s seeme d d evote d to t h e s t u dy o f t h e ,should nothate endeavoured to s k ew , t h at t h e ki nd of i nter- miner , there would be nine small vessels, in addition. for the purpose oilcans by which he might overthrow the Regency and the Cor. ference which h e recommen d ed was b etter than what had been beest I I protecting the revenue against smugglers. Circumstances tes, which, as the allies of Engl a nd, h a d s o e ff ec t ua lly l a bo ure d a d o pt e d. H e (soul,' not consider the sp eec h o f th e H on. G en- would call for a larger number of men to man these vessels, fir the salvation of Spain. The Cortes refused to ratify th e Rennin as calculated to lay down auy principles on the subject Jessie v.hich, iii point °loin, hail been increaser' from g 8 and 3g gun treaty which Ferdinand had conclud e d w ith itouttaparte, be- whirls it would be wise to practise, with a view to the interests f r i g at e s to 36 and 38, It was also intended to retain the 4th cause it was inconsistent with good faith to England, as it went of either country. He had indeed heard it sometimes said, th a t Ile or di,i s ien of mar i nes , which, with the increased compl e ment o f aga i nst t h e st i pu l at i ons o f t h at concluded with this country by i n the prof e ssion to which the Hon. and Learned G en tl eman seamen, would make a total increase of men of 5000. This was Admiral Apodaca in ISO 9. They treaty of pm th e y a dh ere d belonged, it was not uncommon, in the defence of a c li ent , to tit he ow i ng to t h e grea t increase and growin g p ros p er ity o f our to; an d th i s i t had b een the object of Ferdinand to break, and sacrifice his interests, for the sale of making a display of ta- w' to • Ming f ore i gn t ra d e . It was understood that the permanent Peace i n d e ad t o di sso l ve a ll t h e arrangements w hi c h h a d ser v ed to l ent. C erta i n l y i n the present cast, with a view to the inflo- E nta hli,h me nt was to be 23,000, which number was less than knit the two countries together. He apprehended it was testa of those individuals on whose tinfonunate situati o n the been at th • e close of any preceding war. The vote, which howers•r unnecessary to pursue further the conduct of Ferdinand t o question ar os e, nothing could be more un a d v i sa bl e th an ally f the h e s h ou ld now call for, was 33,000, from the circumstances he prove the ',lrwin to be a case which called fur our i n t er - interference nn th e p r i nc i p l es w hi ch the Hon. Gentleman had tat h a d just stated. He had to claim credit of the House for the f e rence ; wh en b e h a d c r ue lly punished those who were laid down. If the Ho n . G ent l eman t h ought of any thing short on e: o tsoard of Admiralty , fur the rapidity with which ships lied been united with its in war and in council, in his behalf; who had of interference by force o f arms, t h ere never was a speech p a id off, and also with which the peace ships bad been man ne d, not on l y ma d e t hi s ung fnore calculated to defimt th e en d proposed, and to make P ar. rateful return to them, but who had b0n5,•1.., Ler wftnthln tn resittnh.t. th...e. k.:.,. ...1., I min •I• 1- • WAYS AND MEANS. mo. IN( K mint )tion cent rshal nerA, n, in oder, taxa tially mble eirlst cSvilt and ment if he i re- iigb• ction fie vents "ow 11 re e de. akvu nuw iight ?port !quer had uely, mug regu e ap- on in nigh. Hon. 5 the an of d al_ when ICC a any id nu iron • that se, if II for Hon y an t did zivett were 1 vc~t , +cud right ared, Id be et is Mr. WANserranv said, at that late hour, and in the thin state the House then was, he should only move the usual Taxes on Malt, Sugar, and Tobacco; anti a stint of 11 millions of Exche quer Bills, to replace a like stllll outstanding and improyided for. He then moved Resolutions to that effect; which were agreed to, and the Report ordered to be received to-morrow. —Adjourned. THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 15. Three petitions were presented by the Sheriffs of London. The first prayed for the modification of the City Tithes Laws ; the second called for the aholision of Muck Auctions ; and the second the repeal of the Insolvent Debtors' Act. Read, and ordered to lie on the table. On the motion of Lord LYTTLETON, a new writ was ordered for the Borough of Stafford, in the room of Earl Gower, who had vacated his seat, by sitting and voting in that House, with out having taken the oaths required by law. Mr. Lyrni-rroN afterwards obtained leave to bring in a Bill to relieve Earl Gower from certain pains and penalties to which he had rendered Io i 11l self liable, by sitting in time House without having taken the regnlmr oaths. _ . Mr. 1/svis "presented a petition from Bristol, praying that have might be given to bring in a Bill to establish a Court for the recovery of small debts above 40s. and under 131. The petition was ordered to be referred to a Committee. LATE i RANSACTIONS iN SPAIN. Mr. BROLGHAM rose, pursuant to the notice he had given, to offer to the attention of the House a subject whirls he held it bound to take into its most serious consideration, by every principle of honour, justice, and strict political prudence. He was sm e, flint In opening this question, be should be spared the disagreeable necessity of calling on the House to follow lam through any great length of detail ; as that which he had to mention was too notorious, and had already operated too strongly on their feelings, to demand that he should press it much on them now. The Hon. Gentleman quoted many cases, in which, be said, this government hadpiterposed is the con cern of other states, and added, if in these instances the House had interfered for those to whom they were bound by no cam- Man tie, save that which binds all mankind together, surely there could be no reason for refusing it, when it was claimed in favour of the unfortunate Spaniards, with whom we had been united in the Council and the field. It would be recollected, that in inr.n, Admiral Apodoca, the nominal Minister of Fer dinand, but really exercising the power of the Spanish Junta, concluded a treaty, ith this country on behalf of Spain. This treaty bound England never to negociate a peace with France to the surrender of the rights of Ferdinand ; and Spain en gaged never to make a peace without the concurrence of this country ; or, in any ease, to conclude one against its interests. Some time had elapsed with various fortunes, when negociatiorw were entered into with the Spanish Government, by Lord NVellesley ; [and here he offered the trihnte of his admiration of the enlarged, liberal, an.l statesman-like views—of the cogent reasoning mid persuasive eloquence which had dis tinguished the notes of that Noble l.urd, and which had re flected so much ilOnOitroll the principles of the British Govern ment.) The great object of the negociations carried on by the Marquis of Wellesley had been this—to assemble the Cortes. His language bad been, " Cell the Cortes—do not be satisfied with an imperfect Representative Body unknown to the con stitution of Spain ; but call the Cortes at once, and let them take the whole state of the country into consideration, and effect the necessary reform in your system." In consequence of the great efforts made by the Noble Marquis, the Cortes were called together in the coarse of a few months, and a Regency was appointed. Of the individuals who formed this Regency (all the 31embers of which were selected from our interpositiou), two had lately been sentenced to punishment he Ferdinand, mid were to be found ii tke black list of his victims. These were part of that Regency who had maintained relations of amity with as, who hail made common cause with us ; the interest of Spain being considered the interest of Eng lind.und the resources of England being liberally resorted to in order etteetnally to sustain the cause of Spain. The real Allies of England were the Regency and the Cortes ; they had straggled far the liberties of their country, when thay were as ignorant how Ferdinand was employing himself, us he believed every one in that house was careless what might ultimately be Lis lute. 'Towards the end of tire year 1813, or the beginning of the year BM, wilco the power of llomiaparte began to totter all over Europe, a treaty was begun between him amid Feed - nand his prisoner. By this treaty he bound himself to remove the English army from Spain, an the French army being with drawn; and, in a word, en-operated, as much as was in his power, with Ruonaparte, against this country and its allies. Such confidence had Napoleon in Ferdinaid; that he imme diately softened kis prisoners to go at large (sensibte, perhaps, that he could not do a worse service to Spain); and what did Ferdinand do on this occasion Did he revoke the treaty if Valency? No. Did he bastes to Madrid? No, he avoided it, and retired to Valentin, after refusing to siva the Constitution, *ad in recoguise the existing authorities, rid:soot IV itig the ..,.......,r „, ~,... „..„,„ ~„ ..... . ~,,,,... v. agau paonns 11101 ............,.... tam iteese agreeu in imploring, tile course which a the House then was, he should only move the usual Taves on been sentenced to two years' imprisonment, and o th ers were the Hon. Gentlem an h a d t a k en, was t h e lust to be expected , It I Malt, Sugar, and Tobacco; and a sum of II millions of Exche- ordered to confinement for a longer period. One person, a poor from a man of his understandi ng .-Hi s L or d s hi p stated, that i quer Bills, to replace a like aunt outstanding and improvided t r adesman, who had proved himself friendly to England on all from the first mom e nt o f F er di nan d' s entrance i nto Spain I • for. He then moved Resolution' to that effect ; which were occas i ons , an d w h o h a d b een ac ti ve in promoting political British Ambassador, Sir Henry Wellesl e y, h a d ap pli e d to' the bins agreed to, and the Report ordered to lie received to-morrow. discussions on the conduct of the Government, was sen. °ibis own accord, and afterwards, with the full authorteatiou e - Adjourned. tensed by these tribunals to four years' imprisonment,- of Government, to induce him to ac ce pt t h e C ona n t ution of the d THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 15. ii went i. said Ferdinand, on seeing this sen t ence , u on l y Cortes, and t o s h ow l en i ty towar d s t h e L ib erates. If any fault Three petitions were presented by the Sheriffs of London. four years' imprisonment, for a wretch who had presumed had been committed, it was in g ' g farther than the rights of s The first prayed for the modification of the City Tithes Laws ; t o s p ea k i n publi c o n polities. '-(A laugh.) He immediat e ly an ally justified. It had be e n offi c ially notified to the King of , , the second called for the abolition of Mock Auctions ; and the andertook to revise this sentence, and, taking is more en- Spain, that no money should be paid him, neither was any mo- n second the repeal of the Insolvent Debtors' Act. Read, and larged and legitimate view of the subject, he immediately ney paid him, in consequence of his conduct, with the excep- r, ordered to lie on the table. struck out the first assigned doom of this nufertunate man, who tool of 4000 dollars fur table-expenses during his journey from I- On the motion of Lord Lyrrtecrott,, a new writ was ordered was a cripple, with his own hand, and ordered libn to be France to Spain, si Melt had been advanced at the request of ly for the Borough of Stafford, in the room of Earl Gower, who h a nged. (Hear, h e ar, kw.) The public, however-he meant one of the chiefs of the Liberat es . The representations in b e - e had vacated his scat, by sitting and voting in that House, with- the scam of Madrid, with whinn Ferdinand was popular-(a half of the persecuted, who, in their day of power, had also been it out having taken the oaths required by law. mourn f u l proof of the assertion that that country fares ill whe re persecutors, had nut been confined to this co un t r y. Th e Mi- d Mr. Lerrerroe afterwards obtained leave to bring in a th e M ona rch had the mob for his ally), even thole, his Majesty's casters of the three great continental Powers, our allies, had Bill to relieve Earl Gower from certain pains and imualtios to own rabble. had rescued this poor man from death, and the been instnicted at the Court of Madrid ; and the present mu- which he hail rendered I. i ... self liable, by sitting in the House punishment had in consequeuce been commuted for imprison- Coil was likely rather to defeat than to forward the views with ' • without having taken the regnlar oaths. ment for ten years. While speaking attic cruelty of the punish- which we had interfered. As to V eneral Whittingbam, who It'd distinguished himself in 'ever'! battles, and V Mr. Davis presented a petition from Bristol, praying that ments inflicted, he thought it might be proper to mention the sacrificed le 11 - 511 t might be given to bring in a Bill to establish a Court for n a me of the virtuous, the patriotic Arguelles, whose Mte could brighter prospects here to the cause of Spain, which he had v • the recovery of small debts above 40s. and under hil. The not be contemplated but with pain aud indignation. Arguelles, espoused at its earliest dawn, was he t o b e bl ame d f or o b ey i ng I. IP petition was ordered to be referred to a Committee. th e m ost enlighten e d, the most eloquent of the patriots, whose the orders of his superiors, when he did not even know what , l e LATE eItANSAC'fIONS IN SPAIN. e l oqu ence had always been devoted to the right cau se , w h o h as their object was? On th ese groun d s, b e never f oun d himself I ' I is • i Mr. Beoconem rose, pursuant to the notice he had given, to always raised his voice In praise of liberty; In favour of the called upon to give a inure partuuoteat or stronger negative to --( a tt i g ud s a IT. d s al aw ni n i'llifd o reason why interference should offer to the attention of the House a subject which he held alliance with this country; against the Inquisition, and against anLii r i d oti j o . n. w it bound to take into its most serious consideration, by every the African Slave Trade; Arguelles was .nondaraned to serve e- ' principle et' honour, justice, and strict political prudence. He as a common miteter to the gerrison of Cestiingewl had been sent not he cnrrieda little further. e- was stile, flint In opening this question, be should be spared to hi s p es til en ti a l d ung eon on the coas t o f Af r i ca , w i t hi n s i g h t Alderman C. anent, on the authority of letters which he had • u the disagreeable necessity of calling on the House to follow o f a fortress belonging to this cuuutry-that of Gibraltar. It received from the most r e sp ec t a bl e characters iii Spain, ea- W 11/ m through any great length of detail ;as that which lie had w as now for the House to determine, whether this was a cause pressed his conviction, that the people of this country w ere to mention was too notorious, and loud already operated too which called for their interference. He had sh e w n th a t thi s quite mistaken as to the state of affairs in that nation. Them strongly on their feelings, to demand that he should press it country had interfered times oat of number in othe r c ases; a t was not a more popular mo narc h i n E urope, nor one to whom it much on them now. The Hon. Gentleman quoted many cases, thi s momein an army was maintained in France for the express his subjects were more devotedly attached than Ferdinand, rt in which, be said, this government had,nterposed is the con- p ur po s e of interfering in the concerns of th a t c o unt r y, us t h ey Gen. MATHEMs said; th a t F—d was a a — r, an od i ous cern of other states, and added, if in these instances the House h a d it under the band of the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Cas- and detestable in--r.-(Langliter.) The speech of the Nobl e d had interfered for those to whom they were bound by 110 corn- tlereagh). This interference was most extensive, and the Lord was intended by his Lordship to close the mouths of all e, non tie, save that which binds all mankind together, surely whole French police might be said to be under the control of those who were not on the same side of the Hou s e ; but no- g there could be no reason for refusing it, when it was claimed in the Mike Cl' Wellington. It was then for the House to say, thing could be said by lime Noble Lord to shut the mouth s o f a favour of the unfortunate Spaniards, with whom we had been vitae this line of conduct was pursued iii one quarter, whether those on his (General Matliews:) l s it id y e ‘ o %o l u t id lie . I t - 1 478 u: e t ' h O e r i r to v voice' e• united in the Council and the field. It would be recollected, we ought not to use uur weight and influence to relie ve th ose their opinious.-(Las: that in ISCM, Admiral Apodoca, the nominal Minister of Fer- who, by maim; in concert with this country, had been brought against the in acts of that iniquitous in— r F---- - il, .11 dinand, but really exercising the power of the Spanish Junta, into distress elsewhere for the good faith which they had ob- whom lie hoped to see hurled from his ill-gotten and blood- i- concluded a treaty. ith this country on behalf of Spain. This served with us. stained t—e. J. treaty bound England never to negociate a peace with France Mr. Bnoteitem charged Ministers not only with total in. Mr. BENSHrr defended the conduct of the Liberate's, who ie to the surrender of the rights of Ferdinand ; and Spain en- difference to the fate of the Cortes and Liberalea, but with bay. bad not acted against the interests of this country. He mon- d' gaged never er to make a peace without the concurrence of this ing paid the troops which Ferdinand employed ageinat them; tamed the right of interference on the partof the House. Me I- country ; or, in say case, to conclude one against its interests. and promoted the officers who executed hia orders. In eau. also should ‘ like to know what person, or what Minister, bad n Some time had elapsed with various fortunes, when negociatiom lug for interference, however, he did not wish to break th e re - counselled the sending th e O r d e r o f th e G ar t er t o F er di nan d a • were entered into with the Spanish Government, by Lord rations of amity which subsisted between this country and a VII. although, to be sure, an honour had been received in iy Wellesley , [and lucre lie offered the tribute of his admiration person of the sort he hail described. lie did not mean that return. iu of the enlarged, liberal, and statesman-like views-of the threats or menaces should be resorted to-lie did.not mean that Mr. BROUGHAM perceived, from the declaration of the n cogent reasoning and persuasive eloquence which had dis- we should tell him what we had effected for his interest and se- Noble Lord, with no small astonishment, that the country hid it tlnguithed the notes of that Noble Lord, aud which had re- curity-which would be ungenerous-tio-he wished that an interfered all 11100 g, 1001 sent instructions to her Ministers, and if fleeted so much ilolloilroll time principles of the British Govern. appeal should he made to Ferdiaand's apprehensions. He wanted in nothing to the unfortunate Liberates ;in fact, that it I ment.) The great object of the negoehitions carried on by the might to be led to consult his own prudential policy-a prinei. the object which he had thought to gain by his motion, had al- ii Mureuis of Wellesley had been this-to assemble the Cortes• pie of which he did not suppose ham destitute. Suck a lessen ready been attempted. But how could he divine that such I- His language bad been, " Call the Cortes-do not be satisfied should be given as would make him reflect on a great aud seri- was the reality ? When a notice had been given, and some d with an imperfect Representative Body unknown to the con- 00S truth, which he (Mr. Brougham) would express, nut in his conversation had taken place on the subject, the Noble Lord II . etitotion of Spain ; but call the Cortes at once, and let them own words, but in the words of a Minister, who had sejlispered bad preserved a dead silence, for the purpo‘e, no doubt, of .e take the whole state of the country into consideration, and it in the ear of one of Ferdinand's predecessors-" that His eiitrappiug his opponents by their sileuce into the presets( Inti. effect the necessary reform in your system." In consrquesice Majesty had but two enemies- one of whom was the wh o l e lion; which he should not press if the interference of Govern. st of the great effort* made by the Noble Marquis, the Corte' world-and the other his own Ministers r' lu conclusion, the meat had taken place after December, when the last violent ii were called together in the course of a few months, and a learned gentleman observed, that, happily for the interests of PrOrePtilOgOiFertfillalleiagaiwst the Liberalestad occurred ; but Regency was appointed. Of the individuals who formed this humanity, there was one place in which the trntlenight boldly the results of our efforts iambi not then be known. ft' before • it Regency (all the Members of which were selected from our br spoken-where the crimes of Sovereign.; 'nicht Lc arraigned that period, he would persist in his motion, as it would be dear 1, interposition), two had lately been sentenced to punishment -where the oppreased alight be vindirateteand nit ir oppressors that the exertions of Government had failed, al by Ferdinand, cud were to lie (Mind tot tke black list of his railed to an account-and that piece was, the COllllllOll3 House Mr. W eeteetry POLE maintained , that his Nubble Friend ' v i ctims. These were part of that Regency who had maintained of Great Britain !- -(hror.)-1 - le then moved- had closely mated, that from the moment of Ferdinand'' en- e relations of amity with us, who hail made common cause with "'Chit ail humble mistress be presented to the Priam Regent, trance iutu Spain, Government haul used its best offices in fa- us : the interest of Spain being considered the interest of Eng- entreating Ilia Royal Highness to take into hi- gracious ennuis lour sit' the Membei sof the Cortes and the Liberates. He . Intil.und the resonrces of England hang liberally restored to duration. th- sufferings of thelate Spanish Regency and Curtis; therefore wondered at the surprise the Hon. Gentleman h a d . in order etfeetnally to sustain the cause of Spain. 'file real and representing to his Roval Highness, that the Allinnee at expressed. It was true, that he had not a scat in the House last . Allies of England were the Regency and the Cortes ; they had ',resent subsisting between his Royal Iligacss and his Catholic year; but his friends ought to have informed him, that two or e struggled far the liberties of their country, when (hay were as Majesty, affords the most favourable opportunity for the inter• three times during the last Session, in answer to a Member e ignorant how Ferdinand was employing liiinself, as he believed ferenee of Great Britain, with all the weight which belongs to now no more, be (Mr. W. Pole) bad explained, that from the t- erery one in that House was careless what might ultimately be the country and to the sentiments of (bat Home." moment Sir Henry Wellesley had met the King el Spain at Ve- y his fate. 'inwards the end of dn. • i •sir 1813, or the begiuning Lord C4STLEREAGII.---iN the whole course of his parliamen- lencia, he had left nothing untried to persuade him to accept i- - of the year lett, when the power of Boottaparte began to totter tart' experience, he never recollected to hare met with any the Constitution, and to treat the Liberates with mildness. It ill , all over Europe, a treaty was begun between him and Ferd - thing that surprised h•Na more than the native of the motion was theretbre hardly possible that the Gentleman opposite e nand his prisoner. By thi s t rea ty h e b one d hi mse lf t o remove w i;h w hi c h the lion. Member bail conclusteribis•epeeeli. Th e should not have known the coarse adopted by G overnment. .• the English army from Spain, on the French army being with- lion. Gentlemen, although he had entered so wick at lorge The Liberates theniselees were constipate, that all that was drawn; and, in a word, en-operated, as much as was in his into the doctrine of interference-alelneigh he hadsaid so miteh possible had been attempted in their cause ; and that was so no- t- at I power, with fluonaparte, against this cenntry and its attic'. to prove that iaterferenee might be effectual; yet in his motion t aims, both in Spain and in this canary, that he wag as e,, n i e h e d Such confisleoce had Napoleon in Ferdinand, that be how- there was not one word of entreaty to his Royal Highness the the Hon. Gent. should not have informed himself of the fact e diately auffened hit prisoners to go at large (sensible, perhaps, Prince Regent to act en the principle's Laid down in the Speech, before he haul brought his motion. Government had interfered n that he could not do a worse service to Spain); and what did -there was ne prayer for iaterfrrence. It was certainly most from the first moment : but if he thought proper to persevere n d Ferdinand do on this occasion ? Did he revoke the treaty ,i extraordinary that the Hon, Gentleman, entertaMing the sen- M his appeal to the House, let hint go on, oaly let him not eei e Valency ? No. Did he bastes to Madrid? No, he avoided it, timents which he had expressed,diould have sookto se strongly that they were taken by surprise. He would add, 'that ft was al and retired to Valentin, after refusing to sign the Constitution, in favour of ioterferrare, withmu taking the triable se mo m th e opinion of Si. H enr y W e ll es l e y hi mse lf, t h at t h e l anguage A *ad to reroguiv the c3.l"ting aulhoritirs, rithelet J , PsLlitig IN ' euy raverr whether or not the British G orerwrtrat had herr. used a this cannery, and the attempts made In this Honsei-s o it d . . • . ... .. . - • or the ling tiorpt: Ivan- Ids of ireil ccitie h he V