•- .• . rfn Sativnall xtrA 4 1 Our thug, ConiStitution, atilt labni. MONDAY. MARCH 4, 1822 No 1,359.—V0t.. XV.] Pules Oki. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. MONDAY. TED. 25. The Lord Chancellor attended the House and disposed of ju• dirial business. AGRICOLT U RAT. PET ITIONII,—InTd ROLLE reensted-ii petition signed at a meeting of landholders, in the county of Devon, praying for relief under the pressure of agricultural dis tresses. A second pttition annexed to the first, as a sort of rider, prayed for parliamentary reform. he noble Lord intimated that he did not agree with those who expressed an opinion that reform in parliament was. necessary. He went with the petitioners in calling upon parliament to pro vide a remedy for the distresses of the farmer and landholder; but rpm' the other part which related to reform, he expressed his dissent. The nub'e Lonl was persuaded that the prayer for re form was not sanctioned by the majority of landholders. He concluded by moving the pentium be laid on the table. The Duke of SOMERSET presented a petition from tht , land ldders of Holheach, in the county of Lincoln, complaining of agricultural distress. and praying for a reduction of taxation as the only means of relief. Lord Viscount MELVILLE presented a petition from Wig. wan (Scotland), for relief under agricultural distresses—Read and laid on the tahle. The annual accounts relating to the Orphans' Fund were presented at the bar by a person from the Chamber of London. —Adjourned. Tursnay. TER. It. The LORD CHANCELLOR attended the House at half past three o'clock. Lord STAN HOPE presented a petit;on from the owners and occupiers of land in Kent, complaining of agricultural distress, and praying relief. The petition was read and laid on the table. AGRICULTURE. The Earl of LIVERPOOL rose on the order of the day, to open the discussion noon the operation of agricultural distresses. lie commenced by observing. that every respect was due to the riumemias yetitioners tin the subject of these distresses, but at the same time Parliament was to consider the subject without refer ence to the opinion of others. Tire motion he had to make was fur infortuation.—Their Lordships were aware the subject had been taken up in the other House of Parliament, and it was thought mane benefit might accrue from taking a view of the state of the ceuntiy, before they had to discuss the measures to be hrougirt hi ties House. He should therefore trouble the House v ith a few observatiori•• on the suite of the country, in order that they might agree uron the points which were to be the subject of censteleration. Thc imerhal state of the country must have attracted the attention of every one, and it must strike most mere that theincrease of popnlation was g reat in every part of the country. From the year 1801 to :Sill there had been an increase of poini:ation of from 10.942,646 to 12,596,81!1, making an increase 1/1 the proportion of 14 per cent. Again, between 181 l and 1821, there was an increase from the above 12 millions and a half, to h 4.379,677, being equal to i and Billiards per cent. With respect to the agricultural districts, the increase had been at great as among the manufacturing part of the community.— 'The next point to which attention was naturally dircted, was the thaw oftl.e revenue in the course of last year the revenue of • of the come -e had exceeded that of the preceding seat 10,0040eu1. sterling. T iere never had been a revenue cohleeied with less sneer. In the collection ef 7,009,0itu1. in the Excise there hal li.,•en a i.erwieoce or no more titan itS,oool It was a revenue celected wadi ease. Tire institution of saving banks had con thinned muds to the revenue. In the last year the sevineis of these banks inc. eased front Milord. to 1,200,01.01. With TCS -11/4..1 to foreign commerce, a con hderable aslvientige hail arisen in tire course of the last y.'ar. The pen.e-s which would be laid before the !louse, wool i show an increase to the amount of two or three millions. In the manuraertites of cotton. iron, and other articles, there was a considerable degree of industry. The noble I. ird then Ravened to agriculture, and observed, that the first question wits, whether people bad not been led se ay by a false opinion of the state of the country. He could hot believe there was the I,iightest foundation for saying the distresses of this country were to he ascribed to taxation. lie said thi s because on looking nit other countries joe found the sante character of tlis. trofis. Tiiey is d upon the table of the House, the evidence laid last yen: before w committee of the House of Commons, and pa.Ccularly the testimony of Mr. 'heels, who appeared before the commuter. and being asked 'Amt was the state of the growers of corn in the north of Etr.npe, he &Thom] that the Nate of agri culture. as N e : ; aneral subject of complaint. He heerd com piaints in hi, leiud e Germany, and Poland. lie linind the sane complaints in France 'and the Netherlands. The famiere bitterly tf low prices. The fill of prices was one thirds This was the evidenee.of a gentleman of great ability who had visited the etwitinent to ()Loin in'Ormation. They frail also the opinimi of the Dishinfies of France. in their address of Novenaaa list to the R ',Jig. and the answer of the Monarch. Ihe Chamber alluded to existing distress in three•fourtlas of F.aoce, Arising Ilona tuirictilture. The Xfag in his answer adoti.tel that &Area, a .'td stated drat Ire had Liken nicaeJrcs to rcioaly the saute. but aide*. that nssixigniatior could preaent the effect of supezabun dente.. . Hanes ea and other parte the statue tlifilexiliaes whit:tied. le uoukl no.uoulit he sail this distress anise in E,i'L:d frets taxt.tain; bap in eiwiixerhand, where there was no national deb', ....ana;ng •ituly. iiiFttem %vita a.l great as in au., .:ouotry ui E u x u p . e....,ll t e 1.,D* J 1. 2 L o ra conte:".le:' itiqui l'!;c: e cgwiettn.rrl A.barei; was I;_llPtite throtwliont Europe.— Ilavir.g dircetal . their atiention to this part of the subj.:et, he ratite ton cwsialeration of the ;.11.—The state:arta th.it taxation 6 eras the cause of th-e evil was ncw. It had never blorc beer cr r ted as the (Anse./ distre• Re It • fly the petit oar*, that egticulture and menu.... awes were le a thriving cotalitiov euriug the late war. since the t..nnival ut the war, one ti•aath of the taxation had be.tt taken IC to property tax a .s talon They had a 14111:.:1 tondituted to f.:3 pct cent. of the t.bole aniout4 et' tat -- .Make allowance for wa aejieeciation of the euirency. Cie allowance wudd he C.tind to b. t o . iralente 13 N . ....,Ver lit the re.hiction tf fixation wits , nr.,:lered, it had operated a- a r.:liet belotal at y evil of orMeti the c 'wary 'tight note t..ttui la a. It they back. tbey might be able to sec real cot:lpar... ;tabu of e h:.2.docuum:Lis 1...4141mA deceive them. The noble I.ord cited the returntof the exports since 1790, and be said it clearly appeared that the exports had been quadrupled, and the imports trebled. Could any man travel through the country without seeing that %rote and ur,cul tivated lands had been forced into a state of cultivation ? They might see this and judge of tne increase of the agrfrultural wealth of the country. Looking Min to the consumption of barley, they would find a ism leases 111. Teo: Worn a duty of IS per cent. had been raised to Inn per cent. and the increase in the consumption proved the increase of population. In 1789. the consumption of candles was 411 millions of pounds( in 1821, the consumption was 03 millions of 'pounds. Soap, leather, salt, and bricks, had all increased in consumption beyond the increase of population. The noble Loyd stated this to induce the house to consider what was the state of' the country compared with the state of taxation. He pat it seriously to every Lord to ask him • self what relief he could expect from a reduction of taxation ? Ask the farmer what he wants, he will tell you a market.— They had, duriug the late war, with a great expenditure, created an increased demand in the markets. During the last war the demands of Government in the markets was two millions annually, now it was not two hundred thousand. That circumstance alone could prove that the demand COOlll slot keep p ice w jilt the increase in the ni ,rket. 'Fliey at agreed that faith with the politic er.sditor must be kep and the dividends paid. They were all agreed on the re deco ))))) of expenceo, and then the question was, what would lie the advantage to the cols wry by the reduction of 5,000.u001. of mite'? The revenue was about 51,000111G1. and the seduction proposed was 1.51 k of• lhr inertia.. of the country. This reduction )))of have great effect, yet Annie were advocates fur giviiig a.p the Sinkiuq Fond. Butt what was Ilse gain to lie tel against die loaa Why, the loss of the Sinking Food would snake the bor. rowing, of money difficult, and that difficulty would fall heavy out the agriculturists thous( torso. He might ask any mats whether lie would odiously give up tli it fond. 'flip Late Mu'. Fox extolled the measure of the Sinking Food a' much as Slr. Pitt, who writ the author. The Noble Lord eulogized the measure at the Sinkilig Fund in lime of peaee. Where it was established on a clear sur plus oft es emir, it was Mils! lllnthu ial 10 the country.— Every count) in Forope, which Ind Cr' steal a debt, bad created a Sinking Fond. France mail AIWA' ICU bad pry 4crved a Sinking Fond, and WOltbi the Parliament ail Eastland Ile the only nut tutu to throw away credit atol character by giving it ? They could g .io nothiale liv goring it up, and he est o aresse I a lio:.e they never would abandon it. He then cat- to piestiou of allot men_ cures were necessas y to remedy the evils complailied lie had before stated the ilimiress tot riie country to be the le-alt of A 11111:4 411.1 Alabama% war, and Main lance of grain brought on by tearing waste turd. ison cultivation. The non. must be brought abmit by the operation of lime. A Nook Lotd hail said it was a distress bene&-ial t no one, but It was advantageous to a serge class of the pupa la iris of the country. H.: Men Cause to a stateinealt of what the King's Gas ernment bad dune to reduce the f'S , peaces last year, which was neat 4,00J0- The • first measure lia , l beets to reduce the expenditure; and seeotially, to seenre the soikiii4 Fond. 'the nex. rusasure they icsolted to %Al a ..ping in the : interist ul list' Itisoleti debt. Intl had made a con•i , delineate ridadion lit the taxation' of the cowitry, au l soaked ror mole. 'llk noble L•aral shun adtetit'd Us the mra.are tutu sectining the title of intistest on tae I Nail...Nal llcnt, and eunsidereil the plait iseni basil to the . room ry, hot (o.la AS a oaring, hunt as (6110,111 S Of 101111. ',Ohio( use li .111 t to lower Shea late of discount, and give Wale 1 . 11C161.411011 to the cut limey. Ile did not expect such a IllyilaUle WOlll.l Work lei , in the prem.'sl state of the count' ry ; out use measure w.a calculated to ii.ore,lie the Ca. indium of slue currency. Ulcuti lute cilie•liliii, nioli.sei Ilse tttttt ittee sues the Coin La ws could produce any be is. flood tied, he had nUsIsC doubt. lie Was scaly to ailisin that same alteratioil might he made tit Ilse la% re. stunning Ilse inivoriliti tttt of cures, bit Aa IU :gaar Shut tl• IPM %twit rest teflon auto siosolitte t•ssionoulon. Toe taitite Earl coacludrti uy iv iuß col.in Papers, aimilor to those already laid 4efoi e tb.• II iliarof O.IIIIIIIMA on lac same soajtcl. The tptis at C. VS , titttlitiN F.COOP1.1 , 1(1 this expose Incof views of the 6 iverninent, ilium the 111111al lilol plealloll u 1 publie Oiotress, neueli••ial to the country. Ile cowl .1 nor agree wills the N Ode Hall, Viet the distress a !. rtie country was ion occisoioned w v taxation. He Wax glad to bear it was inte n ded t a . risiluee the taxatisin S;A/1/dool. becanse lie was e , n sei n ced 'hurrah' hill Ilt"" I press( it heavy at this limo on all clikaseo. sir cool I nett sal t ; ttt st the Noble Earl its certain tasliiitna"le 0 1""s entertained by noidurti pluteissicill of politrA l Ct s 100 11 11), oho rattle frau their 110Uixs and SI u,lira, hat taxation was not the canoe of dirt-eso, but millet a ....At to tits country. 'f.ix..itioo :wavy on tile collouY, and formed not °lnanely to ri iiavery ri.lu that dis.• Cab ICI watch Ise entail' ry Pallrea ea. The I) .ke of RUCKiNtit LA a soppattea the state :two, ut . l.. , lill.lrervuut. 1. , .t.1 1).11.1%E nitrite,' myself of the present to "evr3 l '''' laNattintl. The oat IVA Os. 4n.tp, cAutllrs, onest, Gettoffitirtl alotte to 3s. u per neCr. It these draft* only " 41 ' 1 "^ er"" 14. 1, II rrliet to the tot 111 , r. He Ma, 4,n \ISM ell OW isilla *yoollll7 re. lie Ve the prescitt but frJ.i , e.I 1.044041 1 11114 di winisl.t.l re:11.0'1111r, Los 4 HAittCOVit;Y I ',poled the (!iiitteo"ln the great " u i l°l "'" l ' a ' the 7rer .819, end 1.1. lt,tr.estit of 18!9.20 and 21, to %%Huh inadlat ut 71.1,h d toe seder!) 41 11 place iu the go oitil) nt ~. ""I•r•Ing metlittio, 115 eJliscaillerre of a ~,„, a 1 ,, ew .ti oiyments.— Whet' the it clrenuist ner. et re cun.l.l”. u.. now rolld !A to Jiecov%r tho CA. 3. Ut We e rebetat reduveti ..~~aw~ •w.. price of aerirtiltural produce. Ile defended tior tiiakiug Fund, and eindesided that even If the wind. 3.410,00 d. appropriated twit were revert in the redoe (iota of riaxaturri. it would give a very trifling relief, warrior swirling away our Sinking Fund would give • 'mortal stilt to ptrulic credit. Alter a few words from Lord Redeadale, the motion of Lard Liverpool we% agreed to, and their kodsliipa ad immured at a leven o'clock. WEDNESDAY, FEB- 27. The Lord Chancellor heard appeals. Earl BATHURST presented - two petitions complaining of agricultural distress, and praying relief. One was Irian HUMS, the other from Hertfordshire. Both were laid on the table. The Lord Chaincellor's Assize Bill went through the Com mittee, and the report was agreed to.—Adjourned. THURSDAY, rEn. vs. Mr. Vernon, from the Treasury, presented the annual report of the Comnissioners of the Herring Fishery • also an ACCollfit of the number of vessels from the ports of lLet7aland engaged in the whale fishery.—These returns were laid on the table. Mr. Nlason, from the East India House, presented sn ac count of the regulations made by the dilfe.ent governments of India, for 11520. It.ITHUBST Adverted to an act passed in the strd of George the xd, which piovides that all proceedings in Coiouial Coutieiln, which interfere with the Ecclesiastical Establiebinelit4, shall be laid before Parliament during SO days, in order that they may receive the sanction of the Legislature. An act having been passed by the Legislative Assembly of Upper and Lower Canada, by which one-seventh of the produce of all lands was appropriated to the maintenance of the Protestant clergy, doubts ari sen whether the remaining six parts of the produce were subject to tythes. A bill had consequently been brought in by the Assembly of Canada to remove those doubtr The noble Earl added, that he held in his hand the said Bill, and in coin plia:ice with the act of Parliament, he laid it on the table. Toe *wire Bill was reported to the House. Lord KING asked the noble Earl for information, as to the curse to be adopted by His Majesty's government in the otiter House of Parliament with respect to the Corn Laws ? Earl ILIVIIURST said, his Majesty's confidential advisers could not object to state any proposition they intendix to submit to the other House, but it was impossible to explain what the other Hawse of Parliament intended to do. atter a few words in reply, Lord KING said, he should mention the subject again to morrow, when a noble Earl (Liverpool) would be in his pl,ct.— Ailjo irntvl IrRIDAY, MARSH 1. The Earl of BLESSINGTON gave notice of his intention to more, on Friday next, for leave to bring in a bill for facilitating the i..2gistration of deeds in Ireland. ALTERATION IN THE CORN LAWS. Lord KING rose to ask for information on a subject which made great impression on the public, flaw:ly, alteration in the Coln 1 - •aws. The object at the present time was to raise the price of corn, under the dread of what was now considered an evil— Plenty I To use a word expressed in the other hotre of parlia ment, many were suffering undc: the " hydrophobia" of pieoiy. (A laugh.) It would not surprise him if the Bishops were to dispense with the prayer for plenty. The noble Lont then esked, wlanher his Niajesty's Government had forinci any opi. nion on the subject of the corn laws. If Government had not, he would ask the noble Earl whether he had formed any opinion, or whether the country was to be left to the mercy of the peremis composing the committee ? If that was to b, the code, sootild say, " Good Lord deliver 11,1" .fulging from the manner in which they discharged duty on a former occasion, he should say little good was to be expected from their efforts at this tima. The Earl of LIVERPOOL sail. with re - 7,et to the inquiry,' to which the noble Lo.il alluded, he shou:d repeat what he said on a former day, when lie moved for documents. Ile did rt , t conceive that any measure that could be adopted with respect rt alteration in the corn laws could have a salutary effect in redeving agricultoral distress. He should say also, that any ineasu.e coining from the other house of parliament would be one woiet had no tendency to raise the price of corn. It niA,;:it be expediezt to enact provisions with respect to the importaoon of corn. No 40:stion &served consideration more than the question ',water it might not be proper to export corn subject to ou:y on a liCA;d lower than the present price. %Vila' that se-le would tie wits depend on the regulations which the comunttee clip: recant mood. Earl DA Illsr1,1?.Y defended the support he gave the corn bill in lata, and cooterided that mucii obloquy had been er-noeo is:v cast on that measure, whica, to a measure of necessoy, W:1, t.t be jostiK.3l. The only remedy which could be applied lAI ;he present evils was a reduction ot taxation. The Earl of LIVERPOOL considered ;his conversation ire:. gitlar, and moved the house do itajouni. Lord CA LTIIOII Ph: said, that tot corn bill of 11115 httl tics frustrated ov the system of averages. lie deantd:l tit: U.:44611C i of the present agricultural committee, old exp.ew,el a :tope .11... t the country in;ght derive Advantage front tees .I:;iheratiu.:* Tne house isAjuonied to ~leilay. 1101.7,E O. CO14N1()Ni• atergo‘Y, Fats timehio 44444 11.14. k, ',resealed an *croon of the ptlh it b. 114. •t. 111 lOC 114: J. ai lur Bank. Mr. Scott, front the C...t ithethiaN u Ace; L ItIAMI , prem. • prowd ass :o.coto.st to toe rccesots a..J Ji.lntsatotieul* U. !OW: . Unclasp,' F.so-s. • i.e . '. enstyl.tiolog; of az.lirattor..l t%alie • •• srtnrJ ( root Cholit,s•s..os mid other pastao ft s' stud J. rut.-Ime. Lord ALT:Iir:IP ore.anted 3 11e1i1jU11#13 , 1n 3.01.1 71 Livaleount in tsar autv,, reoresent in ;0..; ise lull ne-31 IY the service of the coontr) maay scar.; Ili it J.trol4 .r saved to enty mil:intts of property lo the eon, - ry ; that he hid sruducrd mire i.iiintighoni.liN ur n •vnt inn , i•rs. reviniv, etc. Ciao in ken pin( a vi 11,11111,1 e 114111 oJj )4.••14 ; ••111 that ae Y al rem staved no •coto. 5.11;1 SA vi. US. Petit!:ra ord:rcd to b: iis iuo J. .~ , 4 ,