a - 7 - • - k t Read , ebetieu 414.. which, ...k, —Pe I ence ? ! 4 ' AVM ERSTWorc,suirla . }hero were 89 adjutants, be .. there wore 89 'resideiota and every militia mat anew .s it was also requilol26,4mthae etoa stall for wive- meet. Besides that, it w uisite tb ,- iere should be a certain number of none - lined Wilkens always resident tithe hes#-qaarters of each regiment... .. The grantiru then agreed to. The resolution, that Alba not oilleedirrit 116,1451. 28.10 d be granted for,slefraying the expillges of diseintaidied militia in Ireland, fee the curreotryear, was agreeiloto, aft& • few word* from Mr. S. Rice. /11r. GOULBURN nestigoposed that a sum not exceeding 10110881 Am granted ford i/raying...the expenses of the Coaa• missariat in Ireland daring the yeMILB22.•' ' 1 Mr. HUME hoped the right hon. gentleman would su it some general explanation to show the necessity of such as these to defray the expenditure in Ireland. When the chequers of Ireland and England were united, it was natural to expect that the boards of expenditure would be alsmnibodied. Had that course been taken, a wasteful sad prolligatb - profusion would not have telt(' place in this branch of the public expen diture. Surely sac/ a state of things called for investigation sad inquiry. Why were nut the larger places curtailed? Why was not the Lord Lieutenant's salary, which lisarbeen raised to 00,0001. a year, in oence of certain expenses being throws upon it, rearm oo proporkion when those expenses were cast upon other fu ? The bush expenditure ought to be inure fully explained• ..,, Hr. GOULBURN cou rt.lkure -Use honourable gentleman, that the consolidation of ikards is which Ike bad alluded, was to ascertain extent in pro a, and the commis ariat accounts were already transferred. Similar arrangements would shortly be made for the barrack department. The vote was then agreed to. Mr. GOULEURN then moved that a sum, not exceeding i lit 122,7541. be grade for defraying the expenses of the barracks in Ireland, for the. 1522. Mr. HUME com tied of the enormous barrack establish ment for Ireland. There were 287 barracks on the Irish oft blisbment, 157 of which were permanent, and maintained at an enormous expense. Mr 4 GOULBURN icd that the civil service of Ireland required the present ck establishment to maintain the - . u gent. ... . distinguished Irish Roman Catholic. . jk. BROUGHAM replied, tail he hie not inadipbe inquiry (nanny such solicitation ;it w in coosequenv4iiie pitl*. ovation of such a letter in a newWpperip --i Mr. R. MARTIN said, that he was glad pi l bsve beard the iilsimers of the processions that had labia place. So far, Ter, from there being offences on both sides, be declared thit be fryer heard the lowest Catholics give toasts offensive ,to the. testants.--rdretlion ordered to be printed. • 'BR Ft or YRAIREGR.—Mr. CO ENkt mov t eor of tbAlay be read far the a sacs of Mr. and Mr. Menzies. It wu read meat . Mr. Hope was then called Loth. bir he °Mese were ....., to Lim try the Speaker. 4 "j f . ' Mr. Hope acknowloi sitbrhOper. •,... 1 .1 fhe SPEAKER said dap nosse had voted sacks** to bo • breach of privilege. Mfg 31r. Holtrkiny thing Wu, an vindication or explanation of the letter? s ; Mr. Hope expressed his reaping' for titttonstitstion, parti cularly for the representative kach of inP He lamented that no other course was left to law; in •inditation of his Veneer and character, than the course.hihad plusued, which had bale construed trito a breach of privilege. in bad no such intrni # • tions ; be had not desired to contemn the privil se of lb House. The accusations against him were of •st aerie nature, imputing to him whet wan most revolting. y were calculated tp withdraw from him all respect for his chanoterag, He therefonPappelled to the Howse whether any course wasV left to him, wir n such imputations against bite were dissemi nated throughout the empire, than the one which he had w elted. As he.deniedilm truth of these imputation", be bad so other means left tplam to contradict thorn, and Se vindicate himself. By the liublication of the debate the meet painful tenth was produnpil : and he hoped the gentlemen of England would not condemn him for the coarse be bad parsed.—(Lead cheers.) Mr. Hope was then ordrred to withdraw. Sir It. WILSON said, be had never been more shocked then be now was by the loaf cheers that had just proceeded from a partioolar part of the House.—(Hear, hear.)—lf those who were to be the judges were thus to conduct thenistares, what hope were there of an impartial and equitable res.& I Mr. T. COCRTENAY moved, Mr. Hope, having avowed been guilty of the breach of privilege. aain deemed it his duty to warn the asdlfiption of powers and privileges. If their privileges, why were the debates ? why should members be answerable it publish the proceedings of that House. House were given as a shield against , n tended to be as a sword to be peor Beni s, supposing that to bu assumed to berivilege, were the people ex post facto law 7 They complained of and then they instituted themselves to was tl justice in all this t—(Hear, knew writ the charge was. As to any hon. put. (Mr.Abercrotob)), it was he wanted inquiry ; but at the same these proceedings of the Hons. were ha d he oppospd the present proceedings. House, they had been repeatedly must le lout, for Instance, had been detected hese )—but nothing was doge, because detected to anon,—(Hear, and laughter.) worthy of the dignity of the house to Interference was instituted.„(Hear.)— a ere very questionable; Mir instance. from arrest. As to the question be not only resist it, bet if the question pressed, he should divide the house on it. said, if members were not to be !ro ared charges, there ought not to be el f the proceedia..s. the house had voted this to be a breach before the house must be agreed to ; to even the smallest censure. rose amidst cries of " question. qoes- I agreed to, with some cries of—" No." aguita rose.—lle said they °Dahl to cam faucet, the language that haul fallen from foal was io a particular situation. H:s .4 - - - 1 .4111111 9 r * . .. j -: ''. 4 %1 • i i 4. . , - ' . ' ' -„. - ' . !'• ....- v- 1 4' t . 4 R 1137 4 -7- Ir" • 41 , 4 IN II away trial I;y iiiry, and Ates ..-' stenlaidOnergigge 7 4 ' 1 °' .**. •C ' ' all ~ sal Gamest siomplainiog of the torisaaces occasioned h lbe Orange Se. enf the Lords epos itoelten et ftiJ Janette. ' ....,•,, the 1 . yeirs, had .nolthr o l /defies on the 12th and 13th instant, in *ls of Ireland. V me. If this bill was continued less a sum than ' • rale, with t i r3::: . Viee-C aad praying the Hodoe-to adopt measures to eat their re- • ersons, whatever niiihe bad received, _,... e . , wpwards of raised on newel. dl r . ' '' eft. . ''' made in . : 04 %.,r. r' .. " thouAleot • shilling of ilfs, RICE expressed his regret a arespoof theft ak. - elm Id feel i public ni. .„ sub was inveetige- pall cations of complaint. anitati , and dllfision ; and . J r ~,„ " ' • 'oration, in tad, and he w • . • ' "Iliad , a resolutio t c„ sat id lad hoped, ter the Kisitter, that such insult session. that the house •' . - the 'to 1a ems eg wou ld ba se m been a ...." k, Earl • . • . i . sedate, and ful expe re of , . • ' s , Sir J. ACINT . these proceedings werefrodal•M P non the . ead the Lord 0 0 NAL , x sa i i it was ander oration. oft insults on a conga on. and en aontutrUltal on the at battletneusin • future 4.elen innoiry,tf King Will * tie then adjoa His r• ..--.. .. * the C omit ti 1,40110. ' fees raid Mr. GOULB eel, that he regretted as inseb as Ir OF S. lary, end itever %ore has Accounted y one could Ilion of' these cefebrations.—(Hear.„, :DAY, :LILY 13. to goviStument, and Apt.. dy been ' hear! )--With respect to what had recently qie erred , he had' out. .r 's. - "-.... ....• en reoeived no infogreation ; hot he had reason to &Neve that the e Usher of the Black Rod, summoned After a few words !min IliAulliariggethOmollba of Mr. aeannists which Sail reacted this country were grealltelagge- a the House of Peers, to hear the Roy iSived withu did .1 4 .-. -,-. • tee. &talon to sundry public Bills, &o.—(Se ' INNING. moo ipe , Sir G. HILL also said, that no one could deprectit. more -.. 10, . men the .StE. I 11 diag - c nhe did the repetitigg of these manifestations. Wr. Brougham's Retail Buda Bin appropriated to w el , mono* M . UTCHlN`iol4lllaid, if the government desired to se- ;anterbury, Deal, Dover S 6,04- rt. . - ... • • ~ nquiliity of Ireland, the repetition of these outrages likton.under-line, Mantiliffter, Harmer - Scotlan d. ' t in Middlesex, Kent, Margate, Rams- ford, Essex, Kingston upon-Thaines sand Mr. Hum,: Sir R. ' ' ~z . .. . - otherseligdat • would he prevented. He was sorry the Attorney • they would -- * ....., ' • •. , 7 •. •• to this grant. t Gene and ems not in his piing"; had he been present, After • rda "`" '. i ' an d Mr. Nelierfey. he (Mr. H. , A lli ould have idilkeired whigher tiditlen could sot -'--.. . atk i ho opposed t itiii - • •:. ~ a ntel llwar the put dew • outrageous pioceediegm ; ' • r . was .not sittgased at tins opp Petiti ered to lie on the table. Oo the motion that it Brewers, wheegere against all diminution I ,!!' n e o h i e n r , ... t er * wb eZ ,e l et . 0i... o ' 6w ' ' ' , Ilti .. ort'igd twisted. 1 het letters from some pnWicans, wh o n' e readied itself %Pin S. RI :pressed the hope that4he disclaimers on eased, which proved this fact. H. had int T o i eS he SP;are;: a h lf s thall ail ha : . . ' l' " : sail ! s hnth sides of House would have y a k influence on person dr sons adduced avainS ota is 141001 Ist 3' 4 that there be granted to •in Ireland. I •r‘. .....;* nista &waiver thb B they. Mei ,0001. - Ike - - -• iseniMined mint* Mr. BROUGHAM again jogai* viether the letter written tdditi • . 0 11 0emete ipsti°ll . sgumE, g ri . '. i n .r • at ~i s t ah thaf these by Mr. Sergio, whether written many years or now, bad been f i ~... • s r.: Ase • a were britggirteon, issetetut t estimates, the subject s' any investigation. .. or .- 4, • pr:oled. e had cow ..., a prepared tkelsjectodli4s 1140. GOLTI,BURN sled, that under all the cireinnitaces, he pre , /Pc lion k ite I nks titan . nom. .. ~ . . et . die high fees, Am moount , 1 ff eipeadit# 'Wished sii.know had hot demied it neceisary nifinatiVjg any in ;—on the ire aat kiln up, andoity there were so many face of the letter, it appeared it was illitteikinanyears ago. linty: ..`f .;_. - said,. that early in . utante ! laymaste z •'nd saftws tglrutilitia, which,sssein Sir G. HILL asked, whether the letter ha not bee, noticed be Illtosilinnovarfotr=ittie of En- . 1 as a musical band, had 139 illPteilge ? 2 ' . _ _ 4.‘ _ by the lion. amid learned gent. at theinstauce of a distinguished f s tht. bil ioe Se I Limerick, 1 1/ 11 , "e s E b e Twhitt, the' i oi t l AIM — ‘;•;".."..-- titi Mr. Cantertm. te presen ols-und , qr. • 1 rikstDsTford , it.'. ,y. - p4: 7 ` 7 --. '4fse Mr. BR. ' I. . was r. .. It was got ',tint Brew , of th • • • • .. e hid 1 11.::. were not to b Vig i l:Wed, ...• examined all th e reasons ''r wbio_b rossin suceessiessio baeWhe effect s witlyadtGli , - . t BM. Cli, fi ''' Petitionrfrad, and or ..- 4 • . ih b Mr. LENNARD pre • OPetitit t'-. ' „., Hopseholderver Middlesex, . , . , it 110-tbe Middlmmx Casety: ••' . a t. in the neat Session, he IllsooltrmovrfoglA,Xonstoit. quiry into this subject. It wattoo late ir'tbkilession to move fur such Committee now.-- , -PretiMOD ordered tithe printed . ....0' ',, BENET (of Wilts) presented a PaZition front 'm. Daft., and two other persons, ins/Otopoi at Great Y th, briviug been seized out at sea by4hlsisf hitatijesty's venue Cutters. They prayed • revision of Nei !Greene Laws, as they were in hostility to the laws of natiess. The Petition • Wes read: to " * .k, . Dr. LIPHINGTON was surprised thal i ti pi ze h eet was not noticed by 11Ismbers opposite. This Most ex traordinary. Welibn fi ft y millet of the Date e search was enforced ; the vessel was fired Lift', and one man wes killed. He was persuaded that the whole proceeding was • contrary to law, , 1' were •Ilt Lord LONDONDERRY said •-.• preferable modes Sf obtaijsilig red th at of app ng to ~, paAiament.—Petition oidered to •,':r. (1 1, 4441 is,, Stints A stiptess T ,-,Lord p LONDO/021 , 11RY said ' he had insptukd en case tie ! Coiling. • . * wood, Bat bad been Spade* him when that vessel was on its way to one of the is ports, on the ground that it hod oa board robibited lep. Ale had instituted all possible enqai - .represen . • d klieg made to the Spanhk Court p y, of the into British Government to protect all their vessels si aril,- cuellstanced. Sir J. MACINTOSH • saidpis was very satisfactllay infor mation. Nothing in the lawipf netionaras more clear cer tainly, than that such poweropuld not be justified where the . - :alleged Sovereign's authority as not warranted by posses sion. .bir J. MACINTOSH prewasted a Petition from Ashton uitlptt.Line, praying the House to interfere to protect the Greeks. • Mr. HUMS took the opportunity of asking, whether there was anii*Utb tilt statement, that some Greeks who bad ap plied o the. furl Islawds for protection bad been refused. L recolieS, that be bad heard nothing of such ~ re ans tatted 'limber of Greeks ; but if they were to pr akelves inlerge numbers, he did not know what sight births answer* FWVHINNUN condemned the apathy of the House Wad thePiallirnmtnt oalthis subject. The ministers bad done all "' , baus resis4tho cause • and he ' * . Weyer were Ministers there was no in quirli there was no elibrt to affoid redress of great grievances All t asked for his country wan, Oat before it had intliete.l. on it such an act as the Insarrection Act, enquiry should be instituted, and its neces.itv made apparent. After an extended desultory debate, on the order of the day. &Ott& house goin.; into a committee of supply, Mr. .111:M1'. said, he must again call the attentiva of the 1111 nose and the nnble Marquis In the enormous !Is lovir4 "on Our eutum9:te yr lur Consuls at foreign port*. Ho went/ rtr ag e pun._ W I [SON presented a petition from ship-owners of London against the Stamp Duties Bill. The transfer of ships %Web constantly took place subjected to the Ws Imposed on the transfer of real property. The petitioners played. that when the Staiiip Dales' Bill was brought forward, their ease should be taken into consideration.-- Read, and ordered to be inted. Mr. BROUGHAM presented s petition from John Lawless, proprietor of. the Irishmen covr.viin. F4bliched in Belfast. ... , Illy was—he was out ashamed to IWO , . _.Oll of the peace. That ohjeot bad been a-complished, and he therefore should propose the mildest cen s.re on the individual who had been at their bar. As to their privileges they were held for the benefit of the people. He complimented the manner in which Nlr. Hope had explained himself—respectin4 that the object was to *indicate himsel, nut to attack the privileges of the house. lie cone'ocied with int,* tog, and his object would be effected by adopting the reso lution which he should move—that Mr. Speaker do communi cate to M:. Hope, that, in consequence of his explanation', the Fyr , :titleneatMr. S:P p.q• 247 . • ) required the present filitack establishment to maintain the Mr. T. COL:RTENAY all they battik le resisbus cause of liberty ; they had put ii peace of the country. 6 himself the author, bad b, down Biter sere ; and be helped that the tables mop be co. peace SPRING RICE said, that though Limerick had been Sir F.4II:RDETT a 'witted gith petitions, **implore the House to make some efforts ,o secure the ancient honour of the country. disturbed, there were o 'lwo barracks there ; while Derry, House against this as Mr. W I LBERPOKCIN'aid, it appeared to him disgraceful which was not diatiffect Lad eleven barracks. they were to enforce the that the powers of Europe did not combine and make an effort The vote was agreed a llo we d to be published ? to rescue the Greeks from tbpir present calamities.—(Hear.)— Mr. GOULBURN then proposed the grants of 19,0001. fur fur individuals who might The Turks ouht to be peradaded to quit Europe, and go into the House of Industry lis Dublin, and 5,0001. for the Lunatic Tie privileges of that I+ g Asia. -F.. : Asylum, which was agreed to, after a short conversation he- the Crown ; they were ne Lord LONTJDONDERRY did not imagine that the hon. tween Mr. Home, Mr. Spring Rice, Mr.Gi ant, and Mr. Croker, directed againt the pet/ member would' ade four or five tuillious of Turks to connexion u g , ff i le th i t ter D na u l bi e i no i o no e m o y dic o i f ty th s es o e ci i e n t s y t . itutions, and their privilege which they assu to be exposed to this ex era them from Europe. As tp the cruelties, all mask deplore th hut they were not Aron we side. lie t T 4 ,Chtirmita then reported progress, and asked leave attacks on themselves, u inis persuaded tb e Greeks werewilty of . as extensive to s ielgain• be Judges and jurors; wi .p . The SPEAKER resumed the chair, and the other orders of hear ! )--Ile hardly koe etuelthvg as wa r urks. the day beies..disposed of, the House adjourned at half-past complaint against the h Sir /1. W ILS 'd that the governmenLjt least could one &cloth. •;'' without foundation, for h repeal the foreign en tment act.—(hear, hoe? );``, _ ...•.. Lord A. HA3IILTON said, if the T ur kish government were TUESDAY. JULY 16. tinie he thought all these unable to enforce its opn orders, be saw no chance of expire- There liegit only 38 members present at four o ' clock , J6O proper. On that ground Lion till the Greeks weie extirpated. He trusted, however, Speaker dtclarpd the house to stand udjourued till to mur w. As teprivileges of the II that there would be impartiality at the lonialt Islands,—(Hear, w EDNISDAY, JULY 17. greed !abused. A noble Lear! ) . Petitions were presented against the Retail Beer Bill, rom • • • fora seat— I Sir R. WILSON asked, whether the Greek flag would be Mark Colingwuod, London, Isle of 31 ight, Maidstone, Weald ord was detect respected in Smith America. .e-, of Kent, Gloucester, Lincoln, and Harwich, Ito occasion w Lord LONDONDERRY said, every effort was made to pre- Mr. BROUGHAM said his opinion would be unaltered, at there no in spree neutrality at the lonian Islands ; but it was difficult to there were to be 5000 petitions against the bill. The g e piitileges e mike many parties understand what neutrality weans. As to stoners veva a scatteegd bode, otherwise there wt.., ; , e ' mOl members thwOreek flag, it wouli be respected like that or Ilikike:y. ~ ierletl,Odo pifititions in flaur of the bill ; but be was not ''''' ~..) ouse, he should `Mr. WESTERN. presented a petition froltaithabitasts of: AA the b.. untold publicans in general should bare ons- S• - for any oenspre were prei Highgate, llornsey, 6:e. against the kligligatVrttspel Bill.-- Montane ,He hoped, at all events, that the bill stit,:.t go Mr. S. WORTLEY as Mead, referred to the committee on the hill; and they were iM ?.. a al !' : - v tected Olsen they preferrt metered to attend by cou nse l or !h et Ives , if they so thought ,' " 41. . ' in, and ordered to lie on the table. lowed any publication of I fit. ,' • Mr. D '.. • seated papers previously ordered, re • . Mr. CANN I Nlil said, t . • Mr. RUNE presented a pelition ti r Re n, MC. Apecting the, of Justice in scotlatid.—Ordered to lie on o f privi6,4e_thiaolion hienplaining of the coonty cou r t.—O r io littelli the table. ‘.the table. • . but he should not agree t, The report of the Irish Consiahles *flip wassed to; Mr. COURTEN AY ro and ) v:..1 11 r. B ),. s wo petitions from St. Pancras, end the bill ordered to be read a third time tatuediW `SAM i • • - ' In Dwell, against the Highgate Chapel lion." It was put aid ai Mr. GOULUURN moved that the Gaff Insurrection Bill be 0 Bar' •:' ' • Mr. COI: It l LNAY agl read a third time. , About . yme re aged to this committee, on the cider, with many ailowau Mr. HUTCHINSON opposed the Bill ; he was against its 41 ° 11 " ° of Si Y n tr' - Mr. Hope. Thageptliv bit being made law without thquiry. He coaleedvl that these laws M r. HU. presented • from H. C. Jennings, eon(Mr . C.'s ) object originall would not accomplish what was desired. The sy stem of go- plaining of the exclusive rri s enjoyed by the Luiversities it—in pi ev, iit a breach o vernment was bud. Whoever were Ministers there was no in- to prig! Bibles. Read, and ordered to be pi unreal. arimitiolislicd, and he the; 11 111 aa -a. arak ~A ..i 40 I • • • • •• ' • -• , •.. , • S. „ 410 •