, ;Idi Our Etats, Comitituttott, anb COW. 4. No. 1,276.—V0L. XIII.] SUNDAY, OCTOBER 29, 18524. Smpertat 41)arltantent. Did Dumont say anything more?—She said every thing that was good of the Princess; that she had never ob. served tnything of the Princess bat what was good. Do you recollect Dumont say anything about spies?— She told me that ever since the Princess had quitted Eng land she had always been surreundirad with spies; she said something more—tl4l every action that ebe did, even the simplest actions, dune with the best intentions, were mis interpreted—that the Princess knew very well that site was sibrounded with spies ; but that she did nothing winch she wgs,not willimtall the world might know. Do you remember observing to Dumont, that as she, Dumont, had always been about her Royal Highness, she must have remembered aU that passed ?—I only recollect what I have just said. Do you remember inquiring of Dumont anything about the chastity of the Princess?—Yes ; I asked her whether she hail ever observed anything ut the Pi incess. What was her answer?—She answered no ; that she had never observed anythin;; and farther, that it was impossible for Any person to oe more virtuous than " my Pt nices:.." Du you remember any thing being said by Dumont about the late King—the old King/—She said in the course of the conversation, that the old King was the only prop the Princess had. Did you know Dumont well--aad did site know you well ?—Yo. I • HOUSE OF LORDS. SITH DAY OF THE DEFENCE. atorittor, OCT. 2 3 . Lord HARROWEIY prtseated the Report Ate Select Committee appointed to inquire into the correspondence between Mr. Powell and Col. Brown, relative to the absence of Rastelli. The contents were unimportant, except that Rastelli candidly declared he did not mean to return. Counsel were afterwards called iu. Lieutenant Hownam verified his Order of St. Caroline, and Mademoiselle Louise Dumont was handed to the Bar by Mr. Mauls, and examined by Mr. Williams. Are you acquainted with a woman of the name of Franchette Martini ?—I believe not. Do )ou know a man of the name of Henry Martini ?—I do not recollect any such name. Do you know a place in Switzerland called Morge ? Yes. The woman of whom I speak is a milliner at that place? —I know a marchande des modes at that place, of the name •f Martini, not Martini.—(A laugh at the nicety of this distinction en oath. Do you remember sending for that witness to alter a bonnet for you ?--I cannot recollect sending for her, as I did not reside at Norge. Well, e ithout speaking of sending for her, I ask you if you saw her about altering a bonnet in any part of that year 2—l may have seen her, but I do not positively re collect wbether,l did or not. Do you not recollect Madame Martini asking if the Princess was not a woman of intrigue (ear galante)l—l do not at all recollect. I do not recollect having auy con •erwtion with the woman on the subject. Duott not recollect being angry about it ?—I do not recoWect this convergitiou; I have not the least idea of ii. Do yon not recollect that you said it was all a calitintw and that it was the Princess's enemies who spread the roman's against her I—l do not recollect any thing like it ; I do not recollect it at all. Will you swear that you did not say so ?—I will not swear. I do not recollect. khave nut the least idea of it. Did you not say, that the Princess, from the time bile left England, had been suriounded with spies ?—I never could base said so, because I never saw a spy. Will )on swear you never said so f—l will not swear it, but I do nut recollect having said it. Did you not say to this woman, Martini, that the Princess was very unfortunate do not recollect this conversa tion at all. And did you not say that all the actions of the Princess's life were misinterpreted t—l do not recollact saying so— I do Pot recollect this conversation at all. _ _ Did you not, in answer to Martini's question, say," My God ! it is impossible for anybody to be more lilltUUlle than she is do not recollect t I cannot recollect hav ing had that conversation with Mad.tine Martini. D putt not say to Madame Martini, that in all her potseesutoni, she, the Princess , had no friend but the old King have nut the least idea of this conversation. 1 do nut recollect it. _ Will you swear that you did not say so?--iI will not swear it, but I do not believe I ever said it. Alter a short cross•exarrrination by the Solicitor Gene ral, this witness was ordered to withdraw. After which Mr. BROUGHAM proceeded to call Franc/wits Marlimi, decently dressed women,apparentty about 40 years °far. Examined by Mr. Wilih.ins. Aro you the wife of Henry Of what placer—,Norge. Do you keep a 'offline' . 8 ►hop there?—Yes. DO you know Louise Dumont ?—Ye,. How long have you known lier?—li'roin the time she was ia 3lur ge, when she was quite young, anti training to work, Will that before she went into the &mice of her Royal iiigittwss I—A Wog time before. To the beet of your kuott ledge, of what age was Dumont wltrit you tint became acquainted cull het l—She Wight brnhout .ixteeu. Have you frequently seen Onumnt at 310r ,, e ?—From the moment 1 became acquainted with her, 1 seen tier %try °ltem 1)a you remember arcing Dumont at Horge au) time In 1818 ?--I saw her in the month of April. Oit what occasion was it that you saw 1..0ni, , e Dumont i --At the euutitihg-bons of the Demoiacitea .I—, whithcs I was coiled vim uccbunt of some uusk which was to be don,. of Mdtlemoiselie 1)11114011i. _ _ 'Wore that tient, had you scso any joinual of Louise Dnitsout's you saw Dumont, as you Wise said, on the sub ject (Aso:lie work, did yo,: Cliler iutu any raiiversation with Iles uu the aubjtct of that joutual, or of tn, Princess of ‘Valet?—,'t s, IVlist quessam did you put to Lucian Dumont?-1 ub served to Dumont that thu Vtiou:‘ss of {Vales M:lii I said su tiaittoy, bet:titian such way n:. opintau. Whitt 4114% , er did 111.1ke to liar chat a vation ttle put herself in a tit rat pitstioo 1.41 , 1 it Will ootloog but calumny, invented by her twenties, iu otdet to mill bet. , . .--,----..-----•••••" - ~,s . 1 i „ / # 1 co k ov ,r—• ,:?4% ~ . / ;17.3,--% . .ete"),..,- 7.. ,, 11:•aff;e:. 1-,s4Li: C e• ' . .• '• t Ajbtationat A rgiti i:-- ''' ...- ....• ittr+ [Paws M. of the °enthrones' employed in the Milan Commission, thee essential to the right determinitt• of the Case before the House, that Col. Strewn should be examined. Mr. BRORGBAN.—Nothing which had Mien from h's other Learned Friend could iuduce him to depart front the question which he bad put, and which he would repeat (raising his voice), " I ark whether your Lordships ars siltiax use Court etJestieer—When it suited the pumar of the Counsel for the Hill, when they wanted to exclude an evidence whirls was materiAl for her Majesty% windiest.. tnin, by ping him (Ur. II.) down; by Il i 11l nue him roundo• with nine-fold technicalities--when they wished to prevent him from breaking through that mass of conspiracy and perm'. jury in which they had endeavoured to entangle his illustrious client—then the word of Court of Justice was constantly sounded in their ears. But now aloundoniug every thing like furs nod regularity of proceeding, flying in the face of every principle that guides the Courts below, their Lordships acre applied to, not as a Court of Justice, but as a House, of Legislature, to grant, out of their great indulgence, a favour which it never could have entered into the imagination of nay man to apply for to any other tribunal. " I ask, said the Learned Gentleman, " if in any Court since justice • was adanuistered in this land, since any thing like fairness was dealt out batween parties by what arc called forms. • these haudniaids of justice, Vetter a proposition w monstrous as that now offered to your Lordships was attempted to latt • made ?" The next thing be supposed which they sisou'd hear on the part of Col. Brown was,alsat he had not had a . list of wit rases, ten auy specification of the charges against Lim.—(A laugh).—" We, my Lords," said Mr. Broughton, I " c plain of such thin4s, w e have felt the want of them all through the course of this proceediug; but ueverilid we foresee or apprehend the possibility awl; an application as this. Will your Lordships, for the sake of Cul. Brown. however favourite an ugent he may be of the Milan Com. mission, again stop sh u nt in this extraordinary proceeding? Will you sespend my Illustrious Client once mare into that state of horrible anxiety in which she has been kept by you and by her prosecutors?—Will you continue her in that stele of torture by making such a plunge as you are now tasked to make, out of all regularity of procedure, iuto something us dark, as lawless, and as unknown to Courts of Law, as any thing which the human hnsginatiou can conceive? I • ask if your Lordships will iufliet such cruelty on my Blues trious and sutfei lag Client—a cruelty en needless, so gratuit. ass. so shameless—au injustice so beyond all exansple." 4r. DENlicarf said, he should be deserting his duty if he did not strongly oppose this prweetliog, unexampled, and out only fatal to the cause of Isis Illustrious Client, but ue. ! knu wn the Luurts of Justice. Time Learned Gentleman sup ported the observations of Mr. Brougham with great ability, and after the Attorney-General replied, Time LORD CHANCELLOR said it appeared to him to be the duty of the Attorney General, considering all the . circumstances of this most important ruse, to make the ae plicatiuu. The application had been made for twit mottos, one for the sake of the character of Cal. Brow!), and the other with the view to the effect of his evidence upon this ease. He cousidered that their Lordships were humid to reflect upon all the evidence before they deternnucd upon . granting ur refusing the application. Ile shoald apply him self to the examination of the Minutes, and begged their Lordships would defer the decision till tu-tuturow morning. Lord GREY approved of the delay, but he should suggest one timing of, in his opinion, great importance. The que.tion on which their Lordships would have to decide, was whether • time application should be waisted now or after the Attorney. General had examined his other e itueees. It the deist, were granted at this moineut the Attorney General would • have nit opportunity of getting fresh evideucc, and thus add to the delay of justice. Adjourned at tuenty-five minutes past three. NINETEENTH DAY OF THE DEFENCE. TUESDAY, OCT. 24. This day, the Lord Chancellor took his seat on the Woulmck a few minutes before ten o'clock. Prey era were read, and the list called over in the usual manner. Earl GREY then rose.-- , " My Lords, as I trust we may • now entertain some hope of approaching the end of these proceedings,in which we have been so long and vo painfully • occupied. It appears to me exceedingly important 1 het we bliould consider the nature of the evidence gist.** at the bar—eti4ente which strongly proves that the testi. molly does not correspond with that before give n by the same witnesses. This being the We. my Lords, it be. • comes necessary that we shoal(' he put in possession olthe • testimony of the witnesses on oath, as laid before the Seciet Cmniiittee. 1 ant aware that the rxrinitiation of these witnesses his not been like the depositions • given before Magistrates; hilt though extra judicial sod irregular, they have been uu oath, and tscvo been laid before the Secret Conintittee, and on them was Founded ' the basis of tbis inquiry, Crinceiving, as 1 du, that it essential We should be put in possession Or' then. tleposi. • lions before wo are called ou to decide oil this motuentous • proceedings, I shall, at a future period, move that rliiy be " laid before your Lordships.P The LORD CHAN CELLOR.—" My Units:a question having arisen last night, in culiseqiienr4 of the . oppticetlon tit 1111' Cilltileet fur the dill to stay these prueeertints until ' Ri unit should tie called to your Haf ; ill toy opi.' mon, j , i.iticc does nut refaire Coot your Lordships should d.. ' la) t.te4e pricesdingx (tries of Heat', lll4f !)--•1 there:Ole most., That CJillinel be now caned in, and iutoru.ed , ' oat it is the wish of your Lordships that they insueld now pi ueeed." -• " The L."l of * DARNLEY said, if these' proeertil , gs were to go on at all, it was certainly tight they should g.• ell 110 W j lie would, tieVl esl a , voter Ills soleititi protest against proceeding any fu, tlisr in tins . 7 disgraceful inquiry; and there were ill, re- distinct grounds on which their Lordships Ju‘ilf to put en coo to it. lust, the diffiCulty of pursuing tut clue et tut cuuspi- Cron-examined by the Solicitor General. now came you to recollect a conversation which you had with Dumont so long ago as ISIS t—ilecause I saw her deposition in the public papers, and then I openly manifested my indignation that sire could have said what she did to we, and afterwards have made such a deposi tion. Examined by their Lordships. Lord DARLINGTON.—Was Dumont acquainted with your husband T—Yes. Lord HARHOWIIY.—In your conversation with Dn mont, 'lid you ask her any question as to the manner in 'which she nits affected by the death of her daughter, the Princess Charlottel—Yes. What answer did she give? She 541.1, that the Princess was extremely atfeeted ; she shed tears, and sanl ate lead lust all that was most dear to her, The witness was then permitted to withdraw. William Leman examined by Mr. Tyndall.—He con firmed his former evidence respecting Baron d'Ende, and in answer to a quiestion ft urn the Earl of Darnley, witness 614(ed 0 that when lie saw the Baton d'Ende, he appeared in perfect health, arid that Ire was shout 40 years of age. Mr. iIttoUGHAM.—" My Lords, the difficelties which her Majesty's Counsel labour under. in further pi oceedieg on this trial, are great and manifold ; no blame is attach able to any person, but to the pruceeding itself, which has placed tit in a situation of unparalleled difficulty and hardship. The witness, Barbara Kress, who was examined against the Queen, has sworn that M. Berstett compelled her to come. M. Bennett did not at least compel Baron rrEude to come ; he gives him leave either to go or nut, and permission only to come back ; spasms succeeded, vet y naturally, and there is no doubt that the Baron d'Eside is ideally ill. The woman Barbara Kress was forced to be a wittiest, not, to be sure,.by our own Go vernment, but by the Government of Hanover. I blame them not; they laboured in their vocation, and the Eng lish Government bail laboured in there*, and had honour ably attempted to get the attendance of the Baron. I blame no one; but there is now an utter impossibility of continuing this case with justice to the Queen ; and I ant sure that his Majesty, if he is .he other party, does riot wish the inquiry to continue a single hour gouger than it can be dons with perfect justice." Toe Clerk, by desire of Lord 1t0r.t.4 to, now read that part of the evidence of Biubai a Kress which related to the Ihreot that out used by the Minister !lentils, in order to compel' her to come over to he it witness fur the prose,uriao —awl then the letter by Berstett to Mr. Lanni, hn u he boasts of his " impartiality and justice.' (The repetition of these espreui Mtn called forth a laugh from a umber of the Peers. ) Lord lIOLLAND said, that he could not have recuuciled it Ii) hub duty to ullu's the ease to go uu N ithout drawing their Lordships' attention to the extracts which bad been just semi. Tile LORD CHANCELLOR desired her Al4jesty's Counsel to proceed. Ihrounusss.—" My Lot.. s, under such circumstan ces as these, and with the recollection of a hat pawed to the apatter of Rastelii, a s feel it utterly impossible to proceed i., ; ;1, c; Aljesty'o deleoCe." The 1,0Itl) LISA NCELLOR asked the Attorney-Gene ral if ne had an) a ithewi to produce to rrbut any points of the defence 1 If he had, he roust now procced N nth their extormatom, a:. the Counsel for her M jesty could not be cidhd upon to address the llotc-e on the whole case s until the Counsel for tut 11.11 had produced all their evidence. The ATTORNEY-GY:NEitAL said, it witsmy of imput tinier that Cni. Bruno should tie produced, to cootra. diet the tool ospenaoaN which load been l ear,, on boo anki his other reipt cotetij ii:ort. tea Ili. Comma ohm. lie (:he Atiormy Greet:ll) threw himself rio the i.nlid,;enee or the House to grant 11:111 611:11 ;Mlle eta anal.! he static.. l t foi that piteinise, Bstoc(a( A it, IL itC tram dinal y Veheine%ce of tone astO ot.tssur— .. 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