tn.+ y 4( ,w• • 41) aftkow to iL k Oar fling, Congtitution, attiflatusS. No. 1,274.—V0r.. XIII.] 91ttpertal Varliamcnt, HOUSE OF LORDS. SIXTH DAY OF THE DEFENCE. NONDA', OCT. 9. Their Lordships met this morning at the usual hour. The Lord asancellorlook . his scat on the Woolsack a few minutes before ten o'clock. Prayers being read, the list of the Peers were called ever. Excuses were made for several Peers, who were absent en account of indisposi tion. The Dukes of York, Clarence, and Gloucester, were present. At a quarter past ten o'clock Counsel were called in. Dr. Henry Butt ad was then called in, sworn, and exa mined by Mr. Wraus.—Was her Majesty's medical attendant for ten months—left England with her, and quitted her service, on account of his private affairs, at Venice. His salary ceased within 15 months of that pe riod, and he has never hail any pension or equivalent since. The Queen, during his attendance in her family, was visited by the most distinguished persons, English and Italians—that her demeanour towards Bergatni did not differ in the least from that which she observed towards the rest of the principal servants—that it was always that of a mistress towards her domestic, and that of Bergami's towards the i'rincess was perfe•ctly tinprestiming and respectful—that there never was any thing in the copduct of her Royal flightless at all iedeceitt. immodest, or im proper—never any thing calculated to bring disgrace upon this country—that his favourable opinion of her Royal Highness had never undergone a change. . Charles dlilfa, Esq. sworn, and examined by Mr. DENIAAN. Do you generally reside at Rome ?—Yes, I do. Did you reside there in the summer of 1814 ?-1 did. Had you the pleasure of seeing the Princess there?— Yes, I called on her the day after her arrival. In further examination the witness said—l had the ho nour of being previously aciinainted with her Royal Highness. During the twelve days I was at Rome I was frequently at the house of th e Princess, and dined there most days with her. She was visited by persons of high rank. I did not see many persons at her table. Baron I who was appointed by the Government to attend her, was there. Two ladies of high rank also attended her as Ladies of Honour. She had also a guard of honour appointed. Every attention was paid to her Royal High ness ; a royal box was prepared for her at the Theatres, and all those marks of distiuction paid to her as is usually paid in Rome to royal personages. Lord Kilo orth also visited the Princess, and the Abbe Taylor was her con stant guest. Bcrgaiui was Chamberlain to the Princess at the table. lie dined at her table in that capacity. I have often seen the Princess and Bergauti together. 1 never saw the slightest impropriety in her conduct towards him, either at Rome, or any other place. I paid my respects to her Royal Highness at Pesaro in 1519, on my relent to Venice. 1 only remained there two days. The Princess was out taking an airing alien I called. On her return, she sera her carriage, with all equerry and Willime Austin, inviting me to come to her house that evening. I went. 1 arrived there between 7 and S o'clock, passed theleveuing, supped, stud then returned to my hotel. Did you visit the Pi iIiCeSS on the following day l—On the following doy her Itoyal Highness sent her carriage and an eel:terry to strew me whatever was worth seeing in the town of Pesaro. Witness tardier stated, that lie dined on taut day with her Royal Iligline.s; and after walking in the giuuuds with her Royal flightless, he left, and proceeded on his jpurney. flail you the honour of paying your respects to her Majesty, after she assumed the title of Queen of I:lighted? —1 hats that honour, when she was last at Rome. Had she two Ladies of Honour to attend het i—No, she bad not. lad she a guard of honour?—No. I saw none. Did perousis of rank visit her Majesty ?-Yes, tisey did. sumo of thew?—[ can Wily Milt) M rule their ounces ill her Majesty's hook. Did you see them sea tie their names ?—I did. 11 iteess male' stood that the f u neral of our late Sove reign had then taken place. Ikrgatni was 0111111611161111 to her Majesty in Is .9 and ib.:(l. Saw no deference iii the genet al splice' duce in her Itlejeaq't !tonal liold. Did )uti ever see anything in the conduct of the Pi in crini towards Berg. in tlie slightest degree deiugatuty to the honour of the English chat:icier, or likely to wetted the feelings of any ere ?—Never. Indepraident ul the cueduct of her Royal Dighin sa at Rome, did you ever, on tiny net:wilt:al, s.e tin) tiling in that ilutaluct against which all exeepitud cum.,' be taken t The Attorney Grueral objected to iJse qiirstiuu. He. said it was not a lea/rime, but 'floe next settees:, called was Juatph Fiule.—Examined by ele. Wieetasis, with the 14111 ants i'reisch liotrpreier. hiinielly Culiatel ul ihe St4tl of tot. Vteriuy of Italy, rild alit: wards on that of Fs:llWe. is a Clie*elilei ill tilt Oldel of the [loll Crown and of the Li ewe of Ho nour. Had a brother, who was a Geurral of Division. Knew &Willi. Will-II be first ktie I , lie Mies Willi; the tuncerues ut Qu.i tee Master tit the Ist Italiau revue ut 'ft. SUNDAY, OCTOBER 15, 1820. of Hussars, towards the end of the year 1800, and begin ning of 1801, the eighth or ninth year of the French Re public. Witness's brother was General of a Brigade, which comprehended the corps to which Bergamt be longed. Was Aid-de-Catnp•to Ws brother. The conduct of Bergami, at that time, was that of a non-commissioned officer, who never bad ally thing to reproach himself with ; it wae, in short, the conduct of a good military man. Bergami was aegnainte4 with Lien. Galliuberti; they are of the same country. Knows that he awed to visit at the Getteral's house. The neat time witness saw Bergauti was on the frontiers of Spain, in letiB or 11109, at the time the division of the French army, commanded by Marshal SI. Cyr, I‘a% proceeding to Spain. Ile then belonged to the household of Gen. Vino, who commanded a &stein') of the Italian army. He possessed the whole confitituce of the General. Witness cantinued, "i visited Gen. Pin.) myself, when the business of the service required it. I have sonsetinies seen I ergaiiii on those occasions, but not always. I can not taro' that Br aand dined with General Pino at his parties. Ile was held in great estimation by the officers, and treated with the greatest eonhtlence, as a man who who was in the whole confidence of a person in the sit , a tion of Gm Pino. He was very well liked, and esteemed au honest man." Cross-examined by Mr. Parke. I never heard anything of liergami being in the prison of Lodi. He was a confidential courier (particular) to Gen. Pino and was entrusted with his atiairs. He was • particula rly attached to Geueraf Pino as a person of trust. I did not see any thing of Bergarai till I saw him in Gen. Pino's service. I have already said I did not particularly recollect the period. It wits valet) Gen. Pino's regiment was marching. In the beginning of the winter, but I do not know whether 180 S or 1009. He was always in a common dress. I first came to London about six weeks ago. I remained twenty days la England the first time, .and then went over to Paris, where my establishment is. Who applied to you to come here?—The Queen, by a letter of !lei's. Examined by the Lords. To Lord CATHCART.—A particular courier, attached to a person of rank, is nut looked upon as a common ser vant in Italy. From whom did Bergamt (*else his salary in General Pino's service ?—1 do nos liteow any thing of that., because I did not belong to the household of Gen. lino. I am a eapesior officer, and did not meddle with the General's private affairs. I have already said he was particular courier to General Pine, Nadi know nothing of the Gene ral's private affair. The next witness called for the defence was Carlo Forte, an Italian of respectable appearance. The lower part of his face was covered with black hair, and lie had tremen dous ninstachios-- "tied by dlr. BROL;OHA3I. . . Were you a courier in her Royal Highucss's service ? Yes. _ When did yogi enter it?-011 her departure from Milan. Where was she going?—To flume. Did you apply to 1w taken into her service?-1 From what motive did you make the application?--Be canse I was then oat of service. You say the Princess was going to Rome. Had yogi any relations there 2-1 had a brother. Any other relations ?— The Ductiess of Turloni, the wife of a b anker there—she was my aunt. On the journey from Milan to Rome, in what carriage did the Princess travel?—ln a small English latidaolet. What other carriages were in the suite?—Two more; One was a bascatella, the other a carafe/la—(A laugh.) Whet sort of ea, ridge is a bascatella ?—A carriage co vered, with seats inside. The landaulet was an English carriage; it was diet rent 'from the bascatella. Tile tan (Mulct had glasses, the same las other carriages. It had wooden blinds and silk curtains, which drew up and down by means of springs. Witness fur ther said : I remember her Royal Highness leaving Rome to go to Sent.gailiii; v r traselled by night. The first morning we rested at nine o'clock, on the second at ten, and nu the third ilayist eleven o'clock. 1)u you know a Deleon of the name of Sacciii, or Sac chilli 1 know. In further etaiiiination lie stated, that Sece'MU, on that journey, tr::velled on horseback to Ancona, from Ancona to Loretto, and Ilona Loretto to Rome; he set omit before her Royal Highness, in a esratella. Then 1 mounted on horseback, and tacompanied her Royal Higliness to Rome. Saeciiiiii set out two hours before. His business in going hefore her Royal tligliness was to order horses amid pay ter them. I travelled always on horseback. I always aceffinchittietl the cal ridge. t'r hen I came near any stage, I if•eil to i:o before her Royal Highness's carriage about half a mile oefore the end of the stage. I always rode the side of the carriage. Sdcellilli ordered the horses the ui:ide of that juni tioy from Rome to Seilegalia. and Paid tut them at the saute time. No oilier person 'ode as cou rier on Mat journey. 1 was always there. Tiles* was no One lint 111 . Who wa s iu the carriage of her Royal Highness daring that j.mriley ?—Fier Royal Ilighattas, the Countess Ukit, Bel gam., and little Vietui me. In Si larst: lap Vietoi Me sit i—Very often on the kite of her Royal litgline,a. OW you see her sometimes on the Coimtess of thdes kue, ?—SUIIICiiIIIOI. . %Viten; ant the \.3untess of Ohli sit in the Carl iage ilighuess was oat the right, un the left, and Ilse (Atli in the unittlie i you remember atm CuIIUIPAS Of 01111 K 01111( 0111 of the c:.ii. i c dninig 11,e jultille) rs. At Lurcito ,ae 14.11 111,1111 d Wt:11111110 4110. her cAtitage, Ain/ tunic the plate ut IJ • _ . _ Where did Dommt go?—.lnto the place of the Countess Olat,ut.twero toe sucess and lit: gum. '• - . r PRICE fled• Witness continued. After leaving Rome to go to Sent-. galia, no one lint Dumont, or Countess Oldi and Bergand were in the carriage with the Princess. The Conine', Oldi always in the middle of the carriage. Always found her in that situation when they arrived at any stage, and in the morning. Whenever they arrived at the end of the stage, and the carriage stopped, witness knocked at the door of the carriage, and asked if they wanted anything. Sometime! in travelling the Winds of the carriage were up. Remembers the horses running away once during the journey, when an accident happened to a work-bag of ono of the maids, at the time the Countess of Oldi changed her carriage. Did you ever see Bergarni take leave of the Pt inceu ? Yes, I have. What did he do on such occasions I—He kissed her hand in token of respect. Mil you ever do so on leaving her Royal Highness Yes, I have. Did the other members of her Royal Highness's suite take lease of her in this manner[—Yes, Equerries, Chant herlaius, and all the Gentlemen who visited her Royal Highness. Did you ever kiss the, hand of former persons of rank with whom you served as courier ?—Yes, I kissed the hand' of the Vice• Queen and of the Empress Josephine. Cross-examined by the Attorney-General. Inm still in the service of the Queen. I travelled with her Majesty to this country. A lung and most uninteresting examination ensued as to the arrrangemeut of the carriages, and distribuhun of the per. SODS on the different journies. The only important answer obtained seas to a question to the following effect t I ask you on }our oath, was it out you, and nut Sacehini, ho, on tlh•joarney from Rome to Senegalia, went ou before her Royal Highness nod suite to provide horses at every stage I—Yes, I will swear two hundred thousand times that I was always with the carriages. Being asked further a by Sscchini was sent forward io ft carratella, and not on horseback ? witness said, that Sna il • • was a bad horseman, and could not ride &stage or two without getting chafed. Were you never during the time yon were with her Royal Highness at Rome in prison?—Never. Was it before that time? Mr. Baouartar said the witness had nut admitted float he had been in prison.—The question was then put In am. ther shape. I was arrested at the watch-house at Aslosto as I was travelling. I had gone to fetch money for her Majesty front her baukers, and the postillions would not give me horses, and ill-treated me. • I retaliated, and began to beat than.-- They set upon me with pitchforks, aud I pulled out a pistol and tired it at them. nut a courier, a friend of mine, came up aud held my arm to prevent mg firing at the postillions, and my Giant received the fire himself. I was put into the watch-house for five days. Was not there a postillion killed upon that occasion ? None upon that occasion—nor wounded ; but 1 made a hole in the courier my friend, with a bullet. He did not die, but was forty days under it. Re-examined by Mr. Brougham. At the time this accident took place I was going fron► Rome to Pesaro, to her Royal Highness. I had in my charge a large sum of money fur her M.tjesly-15,000 dollars. The courier was aft lend of mine and is so still. I migi; t have killed three or four of the postillions, fur my pisti I was loaded with bullets. I had the pistols to defend my IR If on the road from highwaymen. Examined by the Peers. To Lord LitSK I N E.—Duriiig the whole time I tins in her Itopal Highness's service, I never observed any tinag in Be r gmai's conduct towards her alaje ty, but much respect when he spoke to her. To Lord IiI.LEN BOROUGEL—I was alone when this accident happimeil ; others of the suite were farther on the rood. The Secretary of :state at Rome, !India; that I wits in the right, and that it was a misfortune, got we tar liberty. Lieut. John Flyon was thrn called in. and examined by Mr. I am a Lieutenant in the royal navy, and am now stationed in Sicily. I saw her Majesty at e.snit ~ iu March, ISL.'S. 1 took the (anion: not of a con-boat. Ilrr Royal Highness applied tome to proceed n tilt her on a voyage to Constanti, !wive, stud other ie.rees. A polacea was tilted fur that Iwo. pose, fled her lit)ol Highness gave one the emu:nand of her. 1 flit. d up P. • cubist in the pol.ieca :new din< to the order of her Royal IliAlsoes-i, and at her expense. When we got to Tunis a surgeon came un board,l beheve he is nut now hying. I hive heard lie is not. When we %%etc at Tuins it became ne,-essury to change the hed•roolos. itritzawi's room was tile neighbourhood of the dim og-i trout to the al:ca.-cabin on the right-liand vide of the snip. I know the hod-rooms occupied by the Princess and I:erg:inn lit') tug the n hole voyage, Frum the situation in which the bcd-rooms were placed, was it possible fur the Princess and liergami to see ono aunihcr in bed say no. It nas slot possible. Witness continued-1 was soot limes called fur by her Royal Highness, to know how the weather was. She called use swartimes irons the Cabli), and also when she slept under a tent on the deck. What was fiarteolo's situation in the polacess. He was Captain of the ship, h u t 1 was considered acting Ckplaiii, by order of her Royal I tionteso, and all us Jets 11141 came Is UM her Itupd tliglittess were given by me as Captain ill tae ship. Mil Gat trolo's situation call 1111111 pal lie tlasls to attend hit Ilvy al liigiturifes person on board!--Assuseilly out ; his duty was to attend to the men, and it was not necess sary that he slsoislil be its the pa.tot tue tatty appropt idled to tier K Highness. ow fluty to attend to het Royal Hiatusess at all, •-• • , • • .0 •