Entry Level position ideas that would lead into a CRE Broker?
Is there a way up through becoming a CRE Broker without having to live through the excel/analyst side? Just wondering if there is a way to break into the career as I  am pursuing a real estate license currently but don't have much technical skills/knowledge yet (argus/excel). Just curious if there are different paths.
[{"id": "inj0xb8", "text": "Canvasser", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "inj7xs4", "text": "Go on LinkedIn and find folks in your college who are brokers or work in the industry, email them on LinkedIn and cold email them at their work and personal email address.  Ask to grab coffee and include your resume stating you are interested in CRE brokerage!  Also, cold call them and ask for a meeting at their office.  \n\nBe a junior broker on a team and say you will help with cold calling, create presentations, etc.  \n\nDon\u2019t work for an asshole that won\u2019t truely support you.!! The industry is too competitive and 40 percent of brokers fail due to lack of training and support!  You also don\u2019t want to work for a broker that will take all your commission and only have you making cold calls.  You want the guy or girl to take you to meetings, train you, etc.  end of the day, you want s training program at jll, cbre, c&amp;w, colliers, etc.\n\nFinally have 12 to 18 months of reserve if you won\u2019t be an analyst getting paid!!  Also go on Amazon and find books on CRE sales and brokerage.  Understand the technical side as well as general sales!\n\nIt\u2019s a cut throat industry, go get ready for many sleepless nights!!!!\n\nThe best brokers I see are former analyst, cpa, mba and lawyers as well as just smart people!!  \n\nYou also have shops that see really crappy ass buildings and are in tier 3\u2026 you have to decide if you want to work with sleezy types or smart people!  You can make a lot of money in both scenarios.\n\nI love working with institutional groups at cbre, eastdil, jll, w&amp;d, ipa, c&amp;w, etc. when I am selling a building but I like to buy land or shit building from the dumbass broker at the sleezy shops who usually make mistakes or do cowboy math for highest and best use! \ud83d\ude09\ud83e\udd13", "replies": [{"id": "inj988d", "text": "This is amazing thank you so much", "replies": [], "depth": 2}, {"id": "inoifjp", "text": "This was a fun,educational,great response!!!!!", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "injrexz", "text": "The best thing to do is politely harass the managing brokers of the biggest names in your area with phone calls. Normally I have found that the polite phone call in saying 1) Name 2) What you want -\" I want to be a broker\" and 3) asking for a meeting gets the door open. \n\nBe prepared for a shit test. They may purposefully be seeing if you are calling once and disappearing. You need to be prepared to call the same person a lot. If after a legit 20 calls you do not at least get a call saying stop calling; call this guy you may not want to work for the group. Call every day. You have something they want. They just do not know it yet. Good luck. \n\nLast bit of advice do not over think the call. Pick up the phone, call, say exactly what you want and that you need their help. Then let them do the talking.", "replies": [{"id": "inlnda2", "text": "Thank you", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "injv5f0", "text": "Marcus &amp; Millichap is usually (depending on the market/group) open to hiring people with 0 experience. You\u2019ll get all the programs you need there in addition to training and mentorship. You\u2019ll be commission only for most if not all groups and will be grinding cold calling but it\u2019s a good place to learn.", "replies": [{"id": "inlnffv", "text": "Thank you I\u2019ll take a look into it. I\u2019m based in CA", "replies": [{"id": "ino4tcm", "text": "Join IPA, a division mod m&amp;m!!  If you can find a brokerage team here, you will be successful.", "replies": [{"id": "ino6m9d", "text": "Okay I\u2019ll take a look thank you", "replies": [{"id": "insefta", "text": "Agreed. Greg Harris (Harris Group) crushes it in SoCal. Will probably require some analyst function on the IPA team but also has private client", "replies": [], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ink91xj", "text": "Any role that gets exposure to a team of brokers would be your best bet. Aside from a junior broker role, the next best thing imo is a research analyst role at a big four. You\u2019d get tons of exposure working with the team while getting a good understanding of the market as you track everything that happens. This could be leasing activity, availability and vacancies, and development pipelines. You probably don\u2019t need to know a large amount of excel but it would definitely help you finish more quickly if you know some shortcuts. And because the brokers work with research a lot, there tends to be a pipeline from research to brokerage.", "replies": [{"id": "inlnrlz", "text": "This is smart I\u2019ll take note", "replies": [{"id": "inn8quc", "text": "Fuck the POS who want you to eat their shit to get a runner or broker job!  A lot of these same assholes babysit their clients kid who want to get in the industry but an outsider wants a job, and you age to make it frat boy hell week?!  Think about it!!! If you work for a guy who has to make life hell for you to join his team!! Think what that guy will do to you once you join his team!!! He will treat you like a GD slave!  There are various avenues to get into real estate, and I don\u2019t think it is completely getting raw dogged by a senior guy who wants to abuse you!  As mentioned before, the institutional groups at cbre, jll, eastdil all have analyst roles or production associate roles, get with a solid team and you will get 70-90k base + bonus and you can graduate to brokerage if investment sales.  Same with the sophisticated tenant rep or landlord rep groups!!  Don\u2019t sell yourself short!   Lots of assholes in this business who will pump and dump you once they get the value they want out of you and not look back!  Do your homework and find a place that actually values you if you have any skill set.  If you are super confident in your abilities, tell the shop you are fine and don\u2019t need a commission and hit the ball running!!  \n\nI work at an institutional investment shop.  I interned at a national tenant rep shop and also at an investment sales shop, I know the game and it definitely helps me in my currently role to source deals!  But the guys I know who have crushed it came from analyst roles at the big shop or an adjacent industry with connections.  Cold calling all day sucks and if you go to the shop named above, you will either quit in 18 months or be 1 of 10 brokers who makes it to senior associate\u2026Find the turnover rate, and it probably 80 percent or some sky high number!  \n\nNot trying to scare you but the people and firm you join matter.  Resources and coaching is important in brokerage!!", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "intpsa7", "text": "Why don\u2019t you just learn the technical side first? How would you BOV an asset for a client without knowing how to underwrite it? Real estate excel modeling is not that complicated - especially for investment sales. \u201cLiving\u201d through the analyst side is part of it from both an excel/modeling/underwriting standpoint and learning deal process. You\u2019re not selling a house with good schools, you\u2019re selling an income stream to  investors that have the technical skills you\u2019re trying to avoid developing", "replies": [], "depth": 1}]