Can we all just agree to stop using Loopnet/Costar to list properties?
I'm sure there are a lot of wonderful uses for Costar/Loopnet but the recent changes to the system are ridiculous. This isn't merely someone bitching about a change. 

It's clear that nothing about the Loopnet change 2-3 weeks ago had the actual user in mind. It seems to be all about feeding data to Costar, without taking into account anything a user might need. In the past two weeks, it's taken an act of God for me to get anything listed correctly. A process that was once easy to do is not buried in ridiculous steps and unneeded corrections. They've created a huge barrier to entry and a potential data nightmare.

For new constructions properties alone, without a valid US address there's no easy way to list. My rep has told me to must pick an existing property nearby and override the data. This could mean picking a nearby gas station and changing it's data to match. Then the rep overrides the address with the correct item. How is this efficient? How can you count on any data coming out of the system with this kind of overlap? I can't imagine how they even keep track of it at Costar. 

Everything is slave to the address in this new system. Even my property view, once easily sorted by city and state is simply the property name and addresses. As much as I enjoy remembering the address of every property I'm listing...I have better things to do. 

(Also I love waiting 15 minutes for any change to process. Really great for my workflow.)

Let me say, I do not work for Crexi or any other listing sites, but I cheer for their success every day. On Crexi I can upload a PDF and they will add the property for me. They are a breath of fresh air. The system is easy to use. I feel like I matter as a user as I'm not spending hours editing or changing information. Also I feel like the volume has really picked up here. 

The word needs to get out on this. People need to look for any alternative they can and agents need to focus their attention on other sites.
[{"id": "dpgych1", "text": "You assume I can get CoStar to work throughout the course of my day...", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dph0po0", "text": "I'm glad for two reasons: first is that this is an actual CRE post instead of an ad or something residential, and second I'm glad that CoStar seems to have run its course and is making huge mistakes. They're operating under the impression that the Brokerage community can't operate without them and making decisions based on that. They've created a zero sum game between the happiness of their customers and their control of the information. Their fatal mistake in my opinion was assuming that brokers relied on the information in CoStar, but brokers have known to take CoStar information with a grain of salt. This is allowing competitors who are listening to brokers and are more nimble to make huge gains in market share. ", "replies": [{"id": "dpif5qk", "text": "They seem oblivious that a nimble competitor or several of them could disrupt the entire environment. ", "replies": [{"id": "dpigbps", "text": "It's coming.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}, {"id": "drzt7mp", "text": "I work at CoStar, and the fact that they frequently describe themselves as 'nimble' in internal meetings is pretty great.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dph5bby", "text": "I'm on the investor side and Loopnet is a bit easier to search than CREXI. A lot of times by the time I contact the broker from Loopnet, the market is already off the market. So, I've been searching directly on brokerage sites.", "replies": [{"id": "dpufq55", "text": "Properties on CREXI are never removed and they will falsify the \u201clast updated\u201d field to make it appear more recent. The last four times I called a broker off that site they told me the property had already closed months ago. Not worth sifting through the garbage imo", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dphllq9", "text": "Not gonna happen until their is a viable alternative. That hasn't happened yet.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpht8g3", "text": "Xceligent is making some headway.  The brokerage community should charge CoStar/Loopnet for specific deal information.  If you want to know cap rate and details of the deal then you have to pay for it.  Its unbelievable that a site can take all of your information for free and then sell it back to you at a premium.  ", "replies": [{"id": "dpihena", "text": "Xceligent isn\u2019t very big in my market, so I never really looked at their service.  However, the last couple weeks Costar started sending out emails and direct mail about their court case with xceligent.  Not was it annoying, it also got me to look at xceligent, because I wasn\u2019t very familiar with it.  They inadvertently advertised for their competitor.  ", "replies": [{"id": "dpj7q87", "text": "Our office begrudgingly signed up for CoStar about a year ago. As my broker said, \"It's great to know they're spending our fees on all these dumb mailings!\"\n\nWe just had a meeting with Xceligent and I'm very interested in switching, if only to stick it to CoStar (as if it will even matter for their bottom line...)", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "dpji534", "text": "They are going to get shut down for stealing CoStars data. ", "replies": [{"id": "dpjmwjr", "text": "I hope for the sake of competition this doesn't happen.  If CoStar is getting its data from public records and brokers then how is it their data?", "replies": [{"id": "dpjnax3", "text": "Time will tell in the courts", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dphvnm0", "text": "I am really disgusted by how this \"update\" has affected my work, as an Admin in CRE.  I am hoping for viable alternatives, because I have heard so much complaining. Can't properly edit listings that have erroneous info from old data, they barely understand how retail differs from office, and they will now hold us hostage for searches for our clients.  At least we had figured out how to do what we needed on Loopnet.  ", "replies": [{"id": "dpieu83", "text": "There is little to no information out there concerning this change, at least none that I've seen. Either people are too busy to say something or this information is being buried. Every time I am entering a property I'm surprised that (1) I wish I had the old loopnet back (which still sucked) and (2) that they obviously designed a system with only their data in mind. It's as if they sat down and said \"what data and system would we like to have\" without any thought to the people actually using the system. It's as if they imagined users would happily weather any horribly designed process they threw at them. And worse, it's designed in a way that you wonder if the people involved have ever used a web page in 2017.\n", "replies": [], "depth": 2}, {"id": "dpj7u1r", "text": "I used to use the Craigslist formatting/marketing option on LoopNet all the time! It made it super easy to post info about small office and retail listings that locals would actually look at. Now I have to do all the work myself :(", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpi4z8v", "text": "As a broker I always have the most success selling on Crexi. Blows LoopNet out of the water.  Hardly ever get any good leads from Loopnet. Crexi, strategic email blasts, and calls.", "replies": [{"id": "dpif07j", "text": "Crexi is a nice site. It's strange to me that this change didn't have that competitor in mind. \n\nAre there any others you use?", "replies": [{"id": "dpisern", "text": "To be honest - not really. I find most of my buyer's from pitching my listings on the phones - previous contacts and cold calls. Here and there I might get a serious buyer through Crexi. \n\nI sell NNN retail as well so depending on your product type you may find different results when marketing online. ", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpih723", "text": "The updates been a major headache for our marketing team.  The timing for this update shows how little they understand about the CRE.  At least in my market, the majority of our transactions begin between Labor Day and Thanksgiving, then again between New Years and Memorial Day.  Any time you make a major change in a system there are going to be issues, which makes it absolutely asinine to do it during one of the busiest times of the year.  Don\u2019t screw up everyones marketing when it matters most, roll this out in June or over the July 4th weekend.  Our premium ads on loopnet also kept switching randomly.  \n\n", "replies": [{"id": "dpiyoul", "text": "That's a strange time period to be busy. Where is your market?\n", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpihfje", "text": "Ha. And when you make an update: 1 HOUR to make changes. Oh boy...\nhttps://imgur.com/a/INXyU", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpiikt4", "text": "I\u2019m honestly not mad at the update. It was frustrating when people were bait and switching in loopnet, dropping fake listings and fake info. ", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpiufhs", "text": "Man, I wish Google would be compelled to make real estate software. Imagine all the info they could gather along with the superiority of their mapping systems. ", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpj7z0s", "text": "Isn't CREXi only for sale listings?", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpjch4n", "text": "yea i agree they're new update sucks. Having to watch ads even though you are a paying fee compared to a non paid account. So stupid. it doesn't update the properties availability anymore too.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dpks3at", "text": "There IS A NEW PLATFORM out there that combines the best of what all of us are looking for in a listing platform.  Check out RealtyZapp.com. Built by brokers FOR brokers.  Free to list and always free to search.  In no time at all, everyone in your market could take back control of their data and budget.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "drgmu8e", "text": "CDX Xceligent.... oh yea they fucked that up too", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "dshqcpe", "text": "How much would you as either a landlord or listing broker pay a 'commercial real estate marketing company' to visit the listing, take professional photos, professional floorpan, accurate description of the property and hand you off the pictures and floorpan, sell sheets in 48 hours?  The company will also list your property on a MLS-style website similar to CoStar/Loopnet. \n\nIs this something anyone of you are looking for?  Who do you rely on for your photography, floorpans, sell-sheets? \n\nThere needs to be a 'go-to' commercial real estate marketing company that provides these services to CRE Agents/Brokers and Landlords. ", "replies": [], "depth": 1}]