Does Loopnet Restrict Customers from seeing All Listings?
My company wants to get onto Loopnet because some customers are demanding their listings be on it even though we have a commercial MLS for our city.  I have read a bunch of the posts on here about them.

I honestly would rather go with CREXI.  I talked to a CREXI rep and he said that Loopnet is behind a paywall for potential buyers whereas they are not. 

When I went on Loopnet, after clicking on 3 listings, they asked me to sign up.  When I clicked off, it allowed me to continue to look through listings.

If there IS a paywall, how do I prove this to the people wanting Loopnet?  I tried googling information on it and cannot find anything about a paywall for customers coming to their site.  I would like to be able to demonstrate the paywall somehow.  Thanks in advance.
[{"id": "ilq79xq", "text": "Only silver listings (you have to pay for those - differs by market I believe on how much) are available on Loopnet - all postings are available if you pay for Costar", "replies": [{"id": "ilq7k9n", "text": "Okay, I see.  So in order to see what I'm missing I have to pay.  That's very helpful. Thank you!", "replies": [{"id": "ilqa0f8", "text": "CoStar is free to list, but only paying subscribers can see.  That\u2019s the one behind the paywall.  Loopnet is pay to list, free to look.  So not behind a paywall.", "replies": [{"id": "ilqa710", "text": "Okay, well that contradicts what was just said.  Can you see ALL listings for free or only some listings for free on Loopnet?", "replies": [{"id": "ilqbeny", "text": "All paid listings are free to look at on loopnet.  Free listings are only on costar.", "replies": [], "depth": 5}, {"id": "ilqmisr", "text": "Only a person that pays can see all of the free listings. If you want to reach end users you have to pay. You have limited functionality if you don\u2019t pay, you can look at paid advertising for free.", "replies": [], "depth": 5}, {"id": "ilrfy12", "text": "Hey, I worked at Co\\*, I can clarify for you.\n\n&amp;#x200B;\n\nIf you are a subscriber to Co\\*, you can see ALL LoopNet listings, and ALL Co\\* listings on LoopNet. Assuming you are logged in.\n\n&amp;#x200B;\n\nIf you are NOT a subscriber, you can see ALL LoopNet ads, but not all Co\\* listings.", "replies": [{"id": "ilrjhvr", "text": "Thank you!", "replies": [], "depth": 6}], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "ilq7ymj", "text": "No problem \ud83e\udee1", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilqj60p", "text": "For leasing or sales? In my opinion, loopnet/ costar is dogshit. I did not get one legitimate lead from them when selling deals. Crexi doesn\u2019t usually produce the buyer for me, but they have generated a lot of good leads that I was able to do some business with.", "replies": [{"id": "ilqqp9s", "text": "Costar is at least useful as a research tool. LoopNet is expensive and very very rarely yields the buyer. Crexi is great to have as competition to LoopNet but there isn\u2019t a real competitor to CoStar that I\u2019m aware of", "replies": [{"id": "ilqr0fk", "text": "100% agree about costar as a research tool. I actually love it. I hate loopnet as a marketing platform. I\u2019m never going to be a fan of \u201cpay me $1 BILLION dollars and people will see your listings model\u201d, but I would use a service if it provided results. I, along with virtually every broker I know who isn\u2019t total dog shit, haven\u2019t seen results from loopnet.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "ilqz5ip", "text": "We have both.  We have a free account with CREXI and we get a ton of showings from that, but we have never dealt with Loopnet.", "replies": [{"id": "ilr389y", "text": "Make sure to listen to what everyone else\u2019s opinion is, but I assumed I was the only one that LOATHED loopnet for its performance. After being in this subreddit for half a year it turns out virtually everyone thinks they are a trash service.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilr0t96", "text": "CoStar is the data/closed network. LoopNet is the advertising.\n\nEverything on LoopNet is on CoStar.\n\nCoStar is a monthly subscription.\n\nLoopNet is a public advertising platform. It is free to search, and you pay to advertise.\n\nListings on CoStar only appear on LoopNet for an additional fee.\n\nYou do NOT have to have a Costar subscription to advertise on LoopNet. You can pay only the advertising fee to LoopNet.\n\nNot shocked the Crexi sales guy messed it up. It's not his platform. :)", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilr5mvz", "text": "LoopNet only shows listings that are ranked Silver.  The broker/owner has to pay for that service.\n\n&amp;#x200B;\n\nIf you create a LoopNet account you can add a basic listing for free so that it's visible in CoStar to those who pay for that.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilrfcsj", "text": "There are 40+ alternatives to LoopNet and CoStar. People search for commercial listings all over the net. LoopNet or CoStar does not have every listing in existence. If anything, brokers and landlords/owners are bypassing those 2 companies and listing  their properties elsewhere. I can tell you for certain, that 90% of industrial properties in California are held by the brokerages. They refuse to list in Costar. \n\nTry InclusiveCRE. They have a tab listing more than 40 websites offering commercial listings. It\u2019s free to search.\n\nhttps://inclusivecre.com/", "replies": [{"id": "ilrrm9a", "text": "So far, every time i rent, I find it by either driving the area and getting phone numbers or going on Craig's list.  I do look at Loopnet as well but the deals are not as good and a lot of the time, they do not respond to my query anyway.", "replies": [{"id": "ilru7kj", "text": "Rates on LoopNet are inflated. Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever pays asking rates. If you go in without a Tenant Broker, they\u2019re taking you to the cleaners. The summer of 2020 (right after Covid hit) I got an entire year of free rent for a client leasing 15,000 SF office for 6 years.", "replies": [{"id": "ilrviyq", "text": "I went in WITH a tenant broker and the deal still sucked, in fact they sprung some bs on me.  They had listed a certain price but then when I got there they said the price was only for the first year and the price stepped up drastically for later years and you had to sign a 5 year lease.  THey were not interested in negotiating plus I was irritated at the bait and switch as it wasted my time and that of the broker. Still the broker seemed skeptical I could do much better.  Part of the prob though is smaller floor space business rentals are very tight and in demand in my area.   Yet I found two better deals on my own, one by driving around and one via craig's list.", "replies": [{"id": "ilt0ue1", "text": "Sorry about your experience. Annual increases are just part of structuring a good lease. \n\nGood on you for finding space yourself.", "replies": [{"id": "ilth2h3", "text": "When you advertise a price but then have it double in the second year but do not put that in your advertisement, that's deceptive advertising. I saw that a few (not many) other leases for other properties also worked that way but they put that structure info in their ad.  I have no beef with the concept of that structure, my complaint is don't waste my time by not disclosing it until the last minute.", "replies": [], "depth": 6}], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilrhk5t", "text": "Ahh my favorite topic.  \n\nThe fuck boys at Loopnet/Costar will start downvoting this thread to defend the very weak ego of their CEO Andy Florance . Just remember boys and girls, the reason someone works at Costar is because they can't make it as a broker or principal.\n\nLoopnet is only good for pleasing your landlords who see the commercials on TV. I have not received a solid lead from them in years. Everything good comes from Costar or Crexi.\n\nSadly you will have to pay a monthly fee starting at around $100 per listing, 12 month contract. Only do this to please your landlords, it is not effective at moving properties (at least in my market)\n\nBe careful of everything you say to Costar on the phone. They attempt to record everything. Never let them into your office or accept their offers for lunch. They are snakes and the closest thing in our industry to an actual organized crime syndicate.", "replies": [{"id": "ilrid1u", "text": "Everyone posting here - please use a burner account to shield your identity. Costar will track you down.", "replies": [], "depth": 2}, {"id": "ilt69cz", "text": "Agreed- everything good comes from costar because any qualified buyer/ tenant has representation and uses costar. Don\u2019t do loopnet, go with costar it\u2019s what commercial brokers use", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilrhote", "text": "Fuck the CoStar downvote army!", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ils6x5u", "text": "Go with crexi. My company has Used CoStar forever and with it came access to LoopNet. More recently they basically segmented the two so when you are listing a property on CoStar or LoopNet it may appear to be Cross posted but it doesn\u2019t get as many eyeballs as you would think. We\u2019ve had much more luck doing Crexi.", "replies": [{"id": "ils7cbu", "text": "Thanks!", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilsfcnj", "text": "Not a fan of Crexi, seems pretty useless to me but I don\u2019t like costar either", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilso8dd", "text": "Lots of info on this thread, but I will try to sum it up simply for everyone without using BIG words\n\nLoopnet/Costar USE the exact same database now (this transferred over around 2018'ish or so.\n\nIf you post your property on Loopnet, but do not PAY the fee to have it show on Loopnet (it remains a \"basic\" listing) your listing will only be seen on Loopnet by those **who have a CoStar subscription**. Nobody else searching on Loopnet will see it.\n\nSince Costar and Loopnet use the \"same\" database, the listing will show up on CoStar for anyone with a CoStar account.\n\nMy understanding is many brokerages are now \"charging\" their customers to have the listing put up (paid subscription) on Loopnet. The fee is somewhere around $100-150/month PER listing. I do continue to have a loopnet account I pay for and the rates went through the roof this year....many brokerages I know are complaining, but to my knowledge, they aren't budging on the price increases.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilstkqw", "text": "As a person who leases office space, I like loopnet. Most of the time it has a link to the broker's website. they don't even know that I found them off of loopnet (unless they can tell I accessed their site from the loopnet link). CREXI sucks. I don't even look at that site because it won't give me info without an account. I am not paying to see what you are advertising.", "replies": [{"id": "ilsxi4r", "text": "I don't have to login to see or click on any of the listings on CREXI.", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iluw393", "text": "1) The general public that searches for properties will first encounter LoopNet- they do the best job with SEO and online visibility. \n\n2) The general public will only see ~5% of actively marketed product because LoopNet has a pay-to-play business model. \n\nIf a listing/landlord/seller doesn\u2019t pay to be visible (Silver level+), then they won\u2019t be visible to the general public. It\u2019s not cheap to list- typically $100/mo per property with a 12 month contract that can be difficult to cancel. \n\n4) This is what makes buyer/tenant brokers so valuable (assuming they pay for Costar access, which allows them full visibility of the market). \n\n5) Sellers/landlords should have a marketing budget that pays directly for a Silver listing, or reimburses listing agent for the cost.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ilv6t2n", "text": "I just went to Crexi and looked in the areas that we are considering several buildings. None of them appeared for me. (Mcallister Plaza and the Union Place buidings were not in results.)", "replies": [], "depth": 1}]