Questions about property’s and availability to view. No call Backes.
So I have contacted 3 separate property management groups about 3 different property’s none have called me back. What gives? Am I doing something wrong by calling the number listed?
[{"id": "glzaevk", "text": "I find it amazing in any business today how often you don't get a call back. The best part is these are the same people whining about not having money.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "glze4sc", "text": "Property managers aren't typically in charge of leasing at least in my area, try to find the owner through tax assessments or find out if there is a broker. Check websites like showcase/costar too to see if there is a listing.", "replies": [{"id": "glzeimh", "text": "Thanks I will do that. I know one of the had a for information billboard out front. When you go to their website it has a brochure with the demographics on there. I literally called and said I would like to view the property!", "replies": [{"id": "glzen30", "text": "Hmm yeah then you definitely have the right number for that one. Keep calling and say in your voicemail \"I've left several messages\" that usually lights a fire under their ass.", "replies": [{"id": "gm1az32", "text": "if you can passively aggressively manage to say \"hey not sure if you are the right person, I am looking for leasing information.  I see xyz llc owns this and am reaching out to them directly too for the best leasing contact\" you will get called back 110% of the time :P no one likes their client to be contacted directly.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "gm03ize", "text": "Get your own Realtor, make sure it's a commercial  Realtor. Typically the firm that puts up the for lease sign is representing the property owner.  They want you to call but they often are big and busy and fail to follow up. \n\nThe best way to get an answer, especially if you are shopping for future space, is to get your own commercial Realtor who will represent you in your property search as a prospective tenant. Typically if there is a lease deal signed the tenant's rep will be paid by the owner (though sometimes there are alternate scenarios). \n\n**Repeat get a commercial (not a residential) Realtor to be your tenant's rep; it will make your search a lot easier and more productive and you usually won't have to pay a commission.** \n\nAnother benefit of having a tenant's rep is help with understanding and negotiating the lease. Typically the commercial lease is a long and confusing document and many if not most prospective tenants will have a difficult time reading and understanding it. In my market (Hawaii) even a little hole in the wall retail unit can have a lease document that runs 90 or more pages.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "gm0kram", "text": "They probably don't take you seriously", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "gm1a1wy", "text": "follow up.  PM isn't typically in charge of leasing (though they should obviously know who is and pass your info on). Also to be totally honest, when PM is in charge of leasing thats a cluster too a lot of the time.  You wind up with salary type folks wearing 5 hats and they frankly don't give a fuck at all if you lease or not because they have a desk filled with maint crap they have to figure out, reports they have to do to owners/investors etc.  Unless the PM is advertising their self as the leasing contact brokers actually don't contact them, they go right to the owners.\n\nIf you can find a broker for any of those properties that is the best call always.  You can typically find that on a site like loopnet or they should have a sign on the property.  As someone else mentioned, if you hire a broker to represent you they will know how to navigate this and figure it out too.  Their calls typically also get answered quicker as there is some professionalism there and the PM folks know if a reputable broker has taken you on as a client they at least think a deal can happen and you are legit, so that goes a long way when a large amount of prospects are simply time wasters.\n\nAlso in my perspective (as a broker) you should never call anyone and request a tour.  It shows you have little experience etc and are directly asking to use their time without bothering to do any research on your side.  When a broker calls on a property or an experienced lessee (say a larger company with in house RE) they typically request marketing packs and verify SF available etc to decide which places are worth seeing.  When you reach out and just ask for a tour right off the bat without asking about SF available, rental rates, etc it generally shows you are a low probability prospect who is going to waste a lot of time.  We all have toured LOTS of folks through spaces who walk in for 30 seconds and say \"oh this is no where near big enough\" or \"well I need a conference room 100% and this doesn't have it\" or \"this space really won't work because I need a drive in or loading dock or whatever\".  So we learn from that and like to have people spend 5 minutes looking at our shit before we spend a few hours meeting with you in person.", "replies": [{"id": "gm1d9qn", "text": "I probably should\u2019ve given more context. The properties we were looking at are for purchase not a lease. And after I said that this morning one of them actually did get a hold of me after I said I left multiple emails and calls. We did go by and look at the place because we need to see assets that the previous owner left. I do thank you for your reply. \n\nI did get a hold of another property that was just taken off market also.", "replies": [{"id": "gm1dync", "text": "oh yeah that is slightly different.  100% contact the property owner directly unless there is an active sale listing.  PM is rarely involved in sales (actually they typically lose the PM contract too so they have incentive not to want to see a sale).  It isn't even uncommon for leasing brokers not to handle a sale.  Experienced owners would rather talk to you directly for a sale frequently vs their pm or leasing rep bringing you in and wanting a commission.  If not they will send you to the right person.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}]