COVID-19 Era Could Trigger Paradigm Office Shift, Accelerate Long-Term Remote Work
[{"id": "flotf9v", "text": "The other side of this that working from home fuckin sucks and I\u2019m not getting as much done.... so...", "replies": [{"id": "flouctw", "text": "Lose the cats, put on a suit and turn off the tubes.", "replies": [{"id": "floukpj", "text": "I\u2019ll give up my job before my cat you soulless monster.", "replies": [{"id": "flp93pg", "text": "The cat is our newest intern, he has a family", "replies": [], "depth": 4}, {"id": "flplgln", "text": "As a landlord, cat ladies are both scary and stubborn.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "flpbq9h", "text": "We had the same thought this week on a leasing call while discussing this exact notion.", "replies": [], "depth": 2}, {"id": "flpsvko", "text": "been working from home for 5 years. No understanding how anyone doesn\u2019t love it", "replies": [], "depth": 2}, {"id": "flpxuke", "text": "Then your company can replace you", "replies": [{"id": "flql5f6", "text": "Everyone is replaceable", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "flpy7if", "text": "You are replaceable", "replies": [], "depth": 2}, {"id": "flpyutx", "text": " Very odd,  I get waaay more done at home.", "replies": [{"id": "flq9h8p", "text": "No kids?", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "floy5sv", "text": "love seeing all the office leasing brokers on linkedin shout about \"WORKING FROM HOME IS NOT HERE TO STAY\"\n\nbad news for ya...", "replies": [{"id": "flp9m1b", "text": "It's really not. The tech to work from home has existed for awhile, companies have not implemented it more widely for a reason. They get more productivity with people working in an office.", "replies": [{"id": "flpaxbb", "text": "i think there will be a marginal shift. that web developer that works from home once  a week? well he just proved through the pandemic that he can work just as efficiently from home all the time. Now he's allowed to work from home 3 days a week. Boss man takes away his office cause he doesn't really need it anymore. Trends like that and others will cause the amount of space SOME office companies use to detract. I;m not saying people will just delete their office space, but I think it will decrease.", "replies": [{"id": "flpb1ei", "text": "Some marginal shift I agree with. But those predicting the death of the office are absurd.", "replies": [{"id": "flpbcis", "text": "no not the death of office at all. but unfortunately the death of a lot of office brokers (or a decrease in their available business)", "replies": [{"id": "flpe1u8", "text": "Yes and no. Some companies will stop expanding or go out of business. Others will use this opportunity to acquire rivals or increase market share.\n\nOverall what will happen is the wealthiest will use this opportunity to leverage their access to capital and buy real estate at a discount from those smaller owners who become distressed. The rich will get richer make no mistake.", "replies": [{"id": "flpwc3p", "text": "I agree. Was just talking about office user footprints though.", "replies": [], "depth": 7}], "depth": 6}], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}, {"id": "flpycy1", "text": "Keep thinking that way, we are actively replacing people like you!", "replies": [{"id": "flrjlv3", "text": "Companies like Apple EASILY have the tech to have their people work from home, yet they choose to spend $5B on a new office building. Why? Because they know a companies culture is best spread through physically working together.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}, {"id": "fluvdvn", "text": "You don't have to reply to every comment saying this. Very insecure", "replies": [{"id": "flux6p5", "text": "Thanks therapist", "replies": [{"id": "fluz4p4", "text": "No problem, I'm here for you", "replies": [], "depth": 6}], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "floybcz", "text": "There are goiing to be two types of companies. Those that survive and those that don't. Of those that do, they will likely automate as many jobs and have as few employees in the future as possible.  This is the beginning of the mass automation we've been coming, but it will be accelerated, OR more jobs with less money and a greater break between the rich and the poor that we've never seen before.", "replies": [{"id": "flp88q5", "text": "&gt; Of those that do, they will likely automate as many jobs and have as few employees in the future as possible.\n\nCitation needed. Innovation is much improved having a bunch of humans working in close proximity. Company culture spreads the same way.", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "flozxwx", "text": "Some business models will easily adjust to WFH, some not.  Many companies rely on young college grads for low cost labor. They may need adult supervision to stay productive. I did!!  I\u2019m imagining a model where employees meet once a week or month at a conference room shared by many companies. In times of pandemic we shift to all WFH. Good thing is this should be the end of paper docs!  Hallelujah!!", "replies": [{"id": "flpjz02", "text": "Amen to the end of paper docs holy cow. Our group still prints every construction draw...", "replies": [{"id": "flpy96u", "text": "Sounds like my company can come in and replace yours", "replies": [{"id": "flqn6ph", "text": "Probably not.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "flp3g9k", "text": "Is it just me? Or are other people getting tired of so-called news reporting which has \"should, could or might\" in its headline. This is all sheer speculation. I was tired of these headline types even before the COVID19 situation. I see it  in every subject area whether it's sports, politics or local. Guesswork is not reporting. Just my cranky rant. Now for my two cents on work from home. I like working from home but not 24/7. I would like to do about 50 from home 50 in an office interacting with real people. my dog is nice and everything but I hate it when she barks and I'm on the phone. I think people are getting used to dogs barking, especially since so many people bring them to the office now, but I still think it sounds super unprofessional. Whenever this is over, I will not be exclusively working from home. But I will definitely be doing it probably 40 to 50% of the time.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "flp7x0d", "text": "These articles are so lazy and dumb. Have they talked to anyone working from home with small kids? They can't wait to get back to the office.", "replies": [{"id": "flpevsc", "text": "Trying to do brokerage while working from home with a 2 year old. Might as well throw my computer out the window and put on the vacation responder.", "replies": [{"id": "flputkd", "text": "For whatever reason, if I hear kids in the background, my first thought is that they are not professional.\n\nI don\u2019t think that\u2019s fair, but that\u2019s what comes to my mind.", "replies": [{"id": "flq5ynb", "text": "Normally, I\u2019d agree but everyone is doing the best they can under shitty circumstances. I had 6 conference calls with clients today. Literally every single one had some kid occasionally talking in the background. Lots of people who own CRE have kids. Everyone deserves a little grace right now.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}, {"id": "flpy1xn", "text": "They\u2019ll find people that don\u2019t have kids or people that can work from\nHome with kids. You\u2019re weak to them.", "replies": [{"id": "flq5i4u", "text": "Who is \u201cthey\u201d exactly? It was a joke more or less. My spouse and I swap shifts and turn on cartoons when we\u2019re double booked. \n\nGet over yourself. If a client walks because my turn around time is 30 mins behind, there\u2019s the fucking door.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}, {"id": "flq9gxe", "text": "CRE isn't iBanking or some other lad culture sub-genre of the financial services industry.  Real estate tends to be dominated by people for whom family is important", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "flpyaru", "text": "You can be replaced with people that can adapt to this", "replies": [{"id": "flrjqtt", "text": "I have fully autonomy to work from home 100% whenever I choose, and could even before this virus. But I have seen literally millions in revenue generated from informal conversations in the lunch room or getting coffee in the office. Working from home is an imperfect replacement.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "flqrpcl", "text": "I have been working from home for almost 2 years and I love it", "replies": [], "depth": 2}, {"id": "fltvzp3", "text": "TBH I do not care about hearing kids and I think what you are going to see is an evaluation of cost to have large spaces at the leadership level, and if the overhead is worth the 100% production if an employee.\n\n Ex: if I can get 80% of what I got previously of an employee contrabution wise, with then working from home, while saving cost on overhead and space...that might be a good trade off", "replies": [{"id": "fluy3wj", "text": "Of the people with little kids who are working from home, I think 80% is a high estimate. Maybe those without kids that would be a more accurate guess.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "flpk0qx", "text": "No way. Working from home for 2 weeks is enough. Imagine 2 months. Won\u2019t happen\n\nIf anything this will make people want to run back to offices. I\u2019m bullish offices", "replies": [{"id": "flpxxvc", "text": "Maybe you\u2019ll just get replaced with people that work just fine from home", "replies": [{"id": "flr2yze", "text": "No one works fine from you. That\u2019s the thing. Employers respect people who come in. \n\nI\u2019m not lazy.", "replies": [{"id": "flr7sad", "text": "Employers respect people that get shit done and make them money.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "flpll6q", "text": "Fuck working from home with a Covid dildo! It is awful, and I'm not nearly as productive or happy. The cost of an office is worth it from a productivity and mental health standpoint. It may work for some, but absolutely doesn't work better for me or a majority of people I know", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "flpzfo3", "text": "These times will dissuade more people from working from home in the long term than otherwise. Especially after having to do it for the next 4-12 months", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "fnjaj7v", "text": "I am conducting some surveys on this topic Please take 5 mins to provide some feedback so we can backup these speculations with real data from real people! www.postcovidworkplace.com", "replies": [], "depth": 1}]