ECornell Commercial Real Estate certificate thoughts
Hello.

I'm thinking of trying the [Commercial Real Estate Certificate](https://www.ecornell.com/certificates/real-estate/commercial-real-estate/) and [Hotel Real Estate Investments and Asset Management Certificat](https://www.ecornell.com/certificates/real-estate/hotel-real-estate-investments-and-asset-management/)e on the online program of Cornell University. Any thoughts about them?

They cost around $3500 each.  


Update with a little of my background:

 

I have some experience. Maybe I forgot to mention it. I work for a development company and I'm looking to add a little more theory to my 5 years of experience which have been **very empirical.** The thing is, I work for a big construction company and Real Estate Development is not the core business of the company, It's more like a side business/  The owners family investing in a GREAT land banking of properties to develop them on a non-rush basis and give more job to the construction company (eventually, because Construction company now has A LOT of work. Considering that fact, the growth of the Real Estate division has been kind of messy. We do hire good consultants but I want to have a more solid theoretical background for future developments or If my time on this company comes to an end to have a good background to look for another job. Also, I have to manage a lot of the properties (development and not developed) and I want to get more tools. 

Also, I'm considering the   "Hotel Real Estate Investments and Asset Management Certificate" because, as I said, the partners of the company buy a lot of premium lands in the center of the city, and we do have a lot of hospitality companies trying to get any attention from us in order to have a presence on our future projects, I have some experience dealing with some of them  (Marriott by example) but I want to improve my knowledge on that area, at least to fully understand any contract they put in front of me and I can give my thoughts to my boss with more understanding of the business.

I'm an architect, and I start my career here as a residential units salesperson for one of our projects, I gain the trust of my boss and little by little get promotions and now I'm one of the managers.  I'm very passionate about Real Estate, but everything I learned so far was on the street, but as I said, I'm trying to look for a good online program (maybe Corneel, maybe not) to improve on a theoretical side.  

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[{"id": "glxewk4", "text": "Cornell's hospitality school is top notch. You can buy their textbook and learn a ton. It's v specific to hotels tho. And hotels are a different beast. That's pretty reasonably priced.", "replies": [{"id": "glxgywk", "text": "agree w this, I did baker program. very good", "replies": [{"id": "gly9ig2", "text": "&gt;I did baker program. \n\nWhat is the baker program? A full master's degree? I'm guessing not online and you have to apply for it, right? $60k+? Or I'm getting it wrong?", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "glxt2hi", "text": "text book name?", "replies": [{"id": "gly893h", "text": "Yes! I want to take a look at it too. I\u2019ll let you know if I find it, I\u2019m doing some digging.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}, {"id": "gly9d8x", "text": "&gt;ch. You can buy their textbook and learn a ton. It's v specific to hotels tho. And hotels are a different beast. That's pretty reasonably priced.\n\nSame question, plz :D", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "glxhtku", "text": "I\u2019ve done a ton of distressed hospitality investing, it\u2019s a beast. Honestly don\u2019t think you can learn it unless you\u2019re doing it hands on, LOTS of moving parts. To the extent it helps you get a job it\u2019s worth it but as a way to just learn might not be worth the money.\nETA - just saw your overnight edit it isn\u2019t worth the money if that\u2019s what you want it for. I guess if your company wants to come out of pocket for you to do it sure but I wouldn\u2019t waste my mone or time if that\u2019s your objective.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "glxix3b", "text": "I took the commercial real estate certificate from eCornell. I only did because my employer payed. I\u2019ve been an analyst in REPE for about 5 years and the courses are more geared towards newbies and college students. For me it was a waste of time, but it wasn\u2019t a lot of time (probly 20 hours total) and it\u2019s something to put on your resume.", "replies": [{"id": "ifhr6g4", "text": "Hey, do you mind if PM you? I have a question about the program.", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "glxomxd", "text": "Geared towards those in need of a primer to be more proficient in commercial real estate matters. What I disliked was that you were married to the order in which the courses were offered and the case studies piggie back off each other, so if you don\u2019t take one before the other it won\u2019t entirely make sense till it\u2019s all done. I took it in 2019, was very helpful to know wtf I\u2019m talking about for smaller MF developments. But adventures in commercial real estate is probably better for anyone trying to be proficient in institutional modeling", "replies": [{"id": "gly8yph", "text": "&gt;But adventures in commercial real estate is probably better for anyone trying to be proficient in institutional modeling\n\nWhat you mean by \"adventures in commercial real estate\"? The real world? I do have some experience there. Maybe I forgot to mention it. I work for a development company and I'm looking to add a little more theory to my 5 years of experience which have been **very empirical.** The thing is, I work for a big construction company and Real Estate Development is not the core business of the company, It's more like a side business/  The owners family investing in a GREAT land banking of properties to develop them on a non-rush basis and give more job to the construction company (eventually, because Construction company now has A LOT of work. Considering that fact, the growth of the Real Estate division has been kind of messy. We do hire good consultants but I want to have a more solid theoretical background for future developments or If my time on this company comes to an end to have a good background to look for another job. Also, I have to manage a lot of the properties (development and not developed) and I want to get more tools. \n\nAlso, I'm considering the   \"Hotel Real Estate Investments and Asset Management Certificate\" because, as I said, the partners of the company buy a lot of premium lands in the center of the city, and we do have a lot of hospitality companies trying to get any attention from us in order to have a presence on our future projects, I have some experience dealing with some of them  (Marriott by example) but I want to improve my knowledge on that area, at least to fully understand any contract they put in front of me and I can give my thoughts to my boss with more understanding of the business.\n\nI'm an architect, and I start my career here as a residential units salesperson for one of our projects, I gain the trust of my boss and little by little get promotions and now I'm one of the managers.  I'm very passionate about Real Estate, but everything I learned so far was on the street, but as I said, I'm trying to look for a good online program (maybe Corneel, maybe not) to improve on a theoretical side.", "replies": [{"id": "glzqtdz", "text": "My bad, I should\u2019ve provided a link: https://www.adventuresincre.com/home/", "replies": [], "depth": 3}, {"id": "glzqykt", "text": "Also, you don\u2019t need to explain your experience to me bro. Regardless if you\u2019re at zero, ten, or 100...we can all use training and improvement. Luckily you got a lot of shit to build on. Take that course I just sent.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "glxx8ap", "text": "I\u2019ll echo the sentiments here. What are you looking to do the course for? Your purpose will determine whether it is worth it or not.", "replies": [{"id": "gm058ug", "text": "It\u2019s hard to know. I love Real estate development, but I also feel I should go for a MBA to fill the holes on my management job. Also, If I have to move out of the business, I get a bigger scope with the MBA.", "replies": [{"id": "gm2smts", "text": "The Cornell certificate is for a very different purpose. If you really want to do and MBA, target a school with a good real estate program like Columbia. The sad truth is that a certificate is nice but does not give you much. Doing an MBA at a serious business school will provide you with a network that can be very valuable.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "glyaz0n", "text": "If you\u2019d like something all encompassing of commercial brokerage check out nucleuscre.com. I know the author of the program from when she initially launched it in our office and it is pretty much everything you could need or should know to launch a commercial RE broker business. I believe last time I saw a price-point was sub $1,000. It is however a 8 week program that is more in depth the further you go.\n\n*Disclaimer - I did not pay for the course when I took it considering it was the official launch of the program and its been a few years since that and I\u2019ve heard it has only gotten better and better.", "replies": [{"id": "gm04z6p", "text": "Thank you. Will check it out.", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "glyd0ye", "text": "Look into NYU SPS diplomas and certificates", "replies": [{"id": "gm04xme", "text": "Those are online or I have to move to NY for one year? Haha", "replies": [{"id": "gm13wlr", "text": "They can be done online", "replies": [{"id": "gutlybb", "text": "Follow up question. Which one you recommend on a more General point of view? NYU have a lot\nof options on those certificates.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "gma7016", "text": "I did the marketing one and that one was great! I currently have a job at an agency because of it.\n\nAt the end of the day, the general answer for all things business from anyone is \"practice is better\"\n\nAnd it is, but structured practice with theory goes farther than throwing darts at a dartboard with a blindfold on.\n\nCertificates take off the blindfold, but you still gotta practice your throw and master the toss.\n\nIdk if that makes sense hahaha\n\nMy experience with ecornell was wondeful", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "gmbhmfk", "text": "Look into a CCIM designation.  It\u2019s more work but more valuable and transferable.  \nPotentially contradicting my suggestion, Sound to me like you\u2019ll gain more from work experience than schooling.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "gna6y97", "text": "[Top Shelf Academy](http://www.tsmfinancialacademy.com) has a commercial real estate certification that I would recommend for the fundamentals of Excel and underwriting.  It\u2019s only $99 and we\u2019ll worth it IMO.  Disclaimer: I have the certification myself", "replies": [{"id": "gv75wnh", "text": "That\u2019s more focused on financial analysis/ excel modeling right?", "replies": [{"id": "gv79smi", "text": "Correct.  Financial modeling and excel for real estate", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}]