CBRE/JLL/CW - highest earning business segments? Curious which departments pay the most per top performer brackets
I know the post might come off to some in poor taste, and if so, feel free to skip. 

I would like some help in identifying the highest earning roles in these particular types of companies? And I guess this would apply to the top performers of their business segments (as some top financial roles may pay more than a mid-level leasing role).

From perusing this sub it seems it'd be: leasing &gt; finance &gt; project development &gt; research &gt; property management &gt; marketing/sales/c-service

Can anybody provide their two cents?
[{"id": "itd97w3", "text": "Asset management/brokerage/development/acquisitions", "replies": [{"id": "itd9gve", "text": "with the exception of brokerage, these lines are typically semi-separate from the full service firms no?\n\nif you work at lasalle you technically dont work for JLL, same for CBREIM and CBRE, etc", "replies": [{"id": "itd9myk", "text": "Correct, sorry I thought you meant CRE in general\n\nThose are typically the higher paying jobs", "replies": [{"id": "itev5cu", "text": "All depends on the group. Places like NKF\u2019s D/E team in NY, Eastdil, etc. you\u2019re earning exponentially more than you would out of the gate vs. no name asset management, and dev roles.\n\nOP, it isn\u2019t realistic to think you can sit behind a desk all day AND avoid crunching numbers. It\u2019s a relationship-driven business at the end of the day, and the analysis isn\u2019t rocket science.", "replies": [{"id": "itgyxw3", "text": "thanks, sorry are you still referring to working in D/E to avoid number crunching?", "replies": [{"id": "ith40tg", "text": "You\u2019re going to be crunching numbers in both D/E and investment sales. To do well in brokerage, you either need to be analytically proficient, and/or incredibly personable (latter is how you make a killing).", "replies": [], "depth": 6}], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}, {"id": "itfbf4p", "text": "Are you including brokers (leasing/sales/debt) in your comparison? I get the impression that the highest-earners would include the top 1% of brokers.", "replies": [], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "itdki5w", "text": "When I was with those firms, the top 100 were pretty special people, but many were investment sales, usually either multifamily or industrial.  \n\nIMO office is dying in the post-Covid universe, so that trend should continue.", "replies": [{"id": "itdyud0", "text": "thanks, is investment sales particularly quant-intensive?\n\nive been with one of the above companies for a couple of years and originally wanted to lateral from my department into office brokerage due to the earning potential while avoiding quant work. realizing now im not big on being as mobile as the top brokers are in my market...", "replies": [{"id": "ite30z2", "text": "IMO being able to crunch numbers matters, but personality matters far more.  If you can pass CCIM 101, you can handle the numbers well enough and hire someone to run an Argus model.  It\u2019s far, far more important that people like you (ideally, though respect and trust works almost as well).  \n\nTravel is a big part of the job if you want to be among the best on the institutional side. Half the year you\u2019re on the road being charming and witty.  That said, the few private client folks who crush it don\u2019t do that and make as much if not more.  \n\nIMO, YMMV, etc.", "replies": [{"id": "ite3su3", "text": "thanks, i did what i prob shouldve done before reddit and just sifted through the company's business line's flowcharts - looks like leasing is still my best bet if wanting to avoid a career with number crunching\n\nany chance one can work in leasing while still sitting behind a desk 24/7?", "replies": [{"id": "ite9bhp", "text": "not likely. leasing is definitely a more client facing role", "replies": [], "depth": 5}, {"id": "itefulx", "text": "I\u2019ve been in investment sales all my career, so no real intelligent opinion on that.  \n\nReally, the biz boils down to client-facing (the money side) and back office (the help).", "replies": [], "depth": 5}, {"id": "iteo1rx", "text": "So you don\u2019t want to be \u201cquant-intensive\u201d and don\u2019t want to be out of the office moving around.  What do you want to be doing/what is your skill set? Junior roles in investment sales are analysis heavy and junior roles in leasing are touring and networking heavy. Top cap markets and leasing brokers are both successful, it\u2019s more important to find your fit where you\u2019ll excel rather than going with whichever you think has the theoretical top earning potential, if you\u2019ll never get there", "replies": [], "depth": 5}, {"id": "iubfnfn", "text": "No. Leasing requires you to be outside half the time", "replies": [], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "itdl43c", "text": "You can add appraisal someone near the bottom , probs above research.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "itdorhr", "text": "Is this for purposes of considering a new career? Because the positions are going to have different skill set requirements and will differ in their day to day greatly.", "replies": [{"id": "itdz5g0", "text": "ive been in project management with one of the firms for a couple of years but tired of not working in a regular office (my day is spent driving throughout my region) - looking to lateral departments while still having a high earning potential while being able to sit at the same office everyday", "replies": [{"id": "itg03yg", "text": "I\u2019ve actually been looking for info about being a PM at one of the national CRE firms. Besides the traveling, how do you like it and how is the pay?", "replies": [{"id": "itgzvml", "text": "its fine for what it is - im a junior but its honestly just facilitating schedules on projects (making sure x-survey is on track, y-license will be here by this install, etc.)\n\nearning potential seems fine but less than what'd i want. i think my boss's boss makes upper 6 figures but she's at the top of our department in a top 5 market\n\nwork at the bigger firms is extremely flexible. i havent been in our corporate office since COVID but i dont like that lol", "replies": [{"id": "ith1jz3", "text": "How realistic is it for a PM at the bigger firms to make 150k?", "replies": [{"id": "ith3gvc", "text": "expected within 3-5 years", "replies": [], "depth": 6}], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "itdoxh7", "text": "Top pillferers, I mean execs make the most duh", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "itdpb5d", "text": "Assuming you\u2019re coming in as a junior, institutional Investment sales, D/E placement &gt; everything else", "replies": [{"id": "itdzagx", "text": "would you say there any roles with comparable earning potential outside of cap markets?", "replies": [{"id": "itet0z4", "text": "Private equity/credit, but it\u2019s tough to get in without previous real estate transaction experience, or an investment banking background. Possibly development too if you\u2019re at a place like Trammell, Hines, etc.\n\nTake anything you read on this forum with a grain of salt, I\u2019d look to Wall Street Oasis instead to educate yourself.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "itdx89m", "text": "Sales brokerage at the top. I was at Cbre.", "replies": [{"id": "itdxr0p", "text": "sorry, investment sales?", "replies": [{"id": "itdybff", "text": "Yes, investment portfolio sales brokerage of commercial or industrial properties.", "replies": [{"id": "itdzdn7", "text": "thanks - bet LA is a fun market", "replies": [{"id": "ite07fd", "text": "Corporate is cutthroat", "replies": [], "depth": 5}], "depth": 4}], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iteoy2m", "text": "The clients are the highest earning.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "itgpelx", "text": "Sale brokerage will have the top earners but more brokers in Debt and equity will make about a Mil if that makes sense. Fees are bigger in sales but less Consistent.", "replies": [{"id": "itgzd2f", "text": "thanks - sales brokerage being investment sales?", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ittg4yr", "text": "I was a broker at C&amp;W for 13 years. Brokers and Capital Markets can be very high earners. But these are 100% commission jobs. Be ready to work 60 hours for no pay for a minimum of 5 years.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iubewbg", "text": "Cap markets for sure and I\u2019ve worked for 2 of the firms. However,during the pandemic they were impacted the most as it\u2019s latterly commission driven.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}]