John C. Shin - real estate investor and mentor, any experience?
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[{"id": "iiym9vf", "text": "20k lol. His website is literally selling a \"get rich quick\" scheme: \"think and grow rich\".", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iiypc2a", "text": "Run!", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iiyqz3g", "text": "Lmao bro even where he got his \u201csir\u201d title from looks like an MLM (could totally be wrong, just my first thoughts). \nIt\u2019s unfortunate that you probably paid money to attend this event as well. \n\nJust look up \u201cbreak into cre\u201d on YouTube. The guy\u2019s udemy course is like $20 and you\u2019ll learn exponentially more than paying $20k for this hack.", "replies": [{"id": "iiyx6f2", "text": "Have you taken that course? Did it help?", "replies": [{"id": "iiyxgsk", "text": "Honestly - yeah. I\u2019m about halfway through. Pretty much no previous excel knowledge. \n\nInsightful (as is his YouTube channel), and learning a ton. \n\nI wouldn\u2019t say it\u2019s the only thing you\u2019ll ever need, but super helpful resource for beginners.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}, {"id": "iiz0a1h", "text": "I\u2019ve passed interviews just based on those courses (there\u2019s multiple that can pretty detailed as your progress).", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}, {"id": "ij0fs1i", "text": "Excellent courses worth all and more of it\u2019s price. I am getting more interviews and looks because of it. And now I can honestly my skill has improved.", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iiywklg", "text": "he looks like a bootleg version of dan lok selling real estate advice. \n\nlmao avoid", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iiz2oqj", "text": "Damn I help manage over $30B in CRE debt what can I charge lol\n\nYou\u2019d have to be a fool to pay 20k for anything like this", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iiz4g4c", "text": "He is book is amazing just check out the description \n\u201c\u201dHis book, A Think and Grow Rich Publication, was released on January 6th, 2020 called \u201cHOW RICH ASIANS THINK AND GROW RICH,\u201d published by the Napoleon Hill Foundation.\u201d\u201d", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iiz4tos", "text": "I'd run from this guy.  If you are looking for a mentor,  I think your best bet is to start calling local investors that are killing it.  Take them to lunch and  see if their are opportunities to work for them or to do deals with them.  There are a lot of good investors out there that will play a mentor role to younger investors that have time to find and bring them deals.\n\nI have done a couple of investment deals were I find deals I can't take down on my own.  I bring these deals to mentors and we partner on it.  My partners walk me through the process,  I have time to do a lot of the grunt work, and I can use their bank relationships to get a better financing deal.  Its a win win for everyone and we all make money.", "replies": [{"id": "ij161ou", "text": "What kind of deals do you do? What sector? Also how much are we talking about in investments?", "replies": [{"id": "ij3gn6m", "text": "I'm a younger broker (early 30s).  I have bought a handful of deals where I will roll my commissions and then place some extra cash into each deal.  Usually around $30K-$60K.  The deals I'm doing are industrial and office.  Usually looking for 18%+ cash on cash return.  Its been good so far, my cash flow is almost enough to live off of so I'm hoping to slowly transition into a full time investor.", "replies": [], "depth": 3}], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iiz9dgc", "text": "So the use of a title (Sir, Lord, ect) is great because we can look it up. If it\u2019s from something like the UK government it might well be a sign a person has accomplished something significant in their life. \n\nThis person has a knighthood from the \u201cRoyal Order of Constantine the Great\u201d. I wonder what this is?\n\nPer wiki this used to be awarded by the Greek government until 1975. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saints_George_and_Constantine \n\nIt seems in 1974 the monarchy was abolished. Normally after this type of event, these types of honours are largely defunct. \n\n\nHowever if you go on this very professional website, you can apply for knight yourself! \nhttps://myroyalorder.org\n\nMaybe if I get one of these I could also sell a course? I must further consider this fantastic opportunity!\n\nEdit. It seems they will knight me at stunning old world venue such as the \u201cTHE VENETIAN HOTEL AND RESORT\u201d in Las Vegas. Friends quick to the greyhound terminal!", "replies": [{"id": "iiz9ez2", "text": "Desktop version of /u/Third2EighthOrks's link: &lt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saints_George_and_Constantine&gt;\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&amp;message=OptOut&amp;subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop.  Downvote to delete)", "replies": [], "depth": 2}], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iizdf4u", "text": "I\u2019m based in La. Guy is a clown. Look elsewhere. I\u2019ll charge you 19k for my mentoring if you want.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iizyfjb", "text": "You went to a cult meeting", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "iizyh24", "text": "This dude is a total clown. Run.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ij01i1x", "text": "Don\u2019t know who he is but I\u2019m based in LA too! Happy to connect", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ij038h7", "text": "There\u2019s nothing this guy will \u201cteach\u201d you that can\u2019t be self-learned by pounding the pavement to build relationships and learning the ins and outs of valuation.\n\nI work for a real estate private equity fund in LA - feel free to PM me with any questions.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ij0bk4r", "text": "Obviously a scam.", "replies": [], "depth": 1}, {"id": "ij1rmuo", "text": "I can\u2019t speak for this guy, but I did spend $16k for a 6 month mentorship + course from a guy that that did something similar.  I bought it at 19 and \u201cretired\u201d at 23.  Currently have a 62-unit CRE portfolio and a small residential one as well.  Planning to add another 31 units to it by the end of the year.  \n\nAt the end of the day, was it worth it?  Probably.  Was there anything he taught me that I couldn\u2019t find on YouTube/Google?  Not really.  \n\nThe value (in my eyes) was that even though all that info was out there for free, I didn\u2019t know where to start.  I didn\u2019t even know what questions to ask.  I didn\u2019t know what I didn\u2019t know, but he did, and he was able to take me from 0-60 in 6 months rather than me doing it haphazardly myself over the course of 2-3 years.  \n\nI know nothing about the guy you posted about and $20k is a serious amount of money for most people so you\u2019re right to do your research.  At the end of the day though, if this guy can get you started 2+ years faster or can help you make less mistakes, $20k is a small price to pay.  However, If your starting point is going to be the same with/without this guy, find a local mentor instead and just trade free labor in exchange for expertise.\n\n$20k is a lot, but my first commercial property net me $6,200/m when I first bought it.  Now it nets me $9,300/m after I dumped about $90k into it.  If it would have taken me 2 years longer to find and acquire this deal, I would have missed out on just over $200,000 just on this one property.  $20k is a lot of money, but if it\u2019ll actually get you started sooner, $20k is peanuts and my guess is the guy selling the course/mentorship knows that", "replies": [], "depth": 1}]