This wine bar 'cellar' is on the okay scale.. Its a typical of 'who you know' & 'how you look' Scottsdale place, (sorry being from Cali, I just roll my eyes !).. SOOO, Ive never had issues getting in, but Ive seen it with others.. OKAY.. to the wine, ONCE you can get someone to your couch!.. they do have a great wine list.. good noshes... and Im not really understanding why the jazz artists arent there on the weekend.. BUT when they are there, they are great! I love the romanticism of the place.. but it could tap it up on the service level.. and the snobbery card? Cmon! ITs a rough economy.. get over yourself.. \nID recommend going on Thursday for half off wines.. and the jazz is there too..